Great alternatives for folks without an easily accessible window! One thing to remember if you use solvent-based paints is to replace your carbon frequently! Activated carbon gets “used up” (all adsorption sites in the molecular structure filled up) pretty fast, and then it’s useless. You might not smell or notice any difference, but the VOCs will not be filtered anymore and it’s not great to be breathing those in an enclosed space. Even if it smells fine. Put in fresh carbon every so often (how often depends on how much you airbrush), and this will work great.
This is often overlooked. For a respirator to maintain its rating, it has to be in a sealed container when not in use. They degrade rapidly in open atmosphere due to absorbing everything from the air. You need to keep your mask (or just its filters) in a sealed Tupperware or plastic bag, etc.. Throwing the mask in a gallon Ziplock bag after use extends its useful life enormously.
Great alternative? It's like saying you can also put a plastic bag over your head if you don't have a window. This thing does exactly nothing. Every spray booth already catches overspray in a cloth - but all the solvent vapors gets past it like nothing. Adding some random water vapor trap at the end doesn't do anything.
@habiks all these are completely ineffective and a waste of money. The only way I've found to effectively filter VOCs is using a canlite 20 pound exhaust filter, after using the kaizo water curtain. I've voc tested this and it does work, but will need to be changed or redried every 1-2 years depending on your usage. I've VOC tested doing into a water bucket and it does nothing but move vocs
@@ninjatangothat is where people are making a huge mistake that is the reason I hate that everyone thinks wear a filter is the greatest thing in the world. Especially for resin 3d printing in the house, yes the use a filter when they open the lid up but generally it will spread the voc all over the inside the house, go through the walls to up stairs. Than they don’t change the carbon mask or the air filters they have on the portable units. 7 to 10 day normally is what they are good for place them in the plastic bag will extend them how long it depends on use I would replace them at the 14 day mark or if you use them every day max 10 days.
I really appreciate running into your channel, the wealth of information, and the product reviews have guided many of my purchases. Continue the great work and thank you.
Years ago when I first moved to Japan I had to use the bucket it did a great job until I got. A spray booth in Japan Apartments you don't have very much room and you have to be very creative .I made Many different variations of it..but nothing will replace a good vent to the outside. Good video Robert Keep them coming brother
Precisely because of that many Hobby shops in Japan has a "hobby room" with multiple spray booths with compressors and airbrushes set up that you can rent for hours. Some even have key lockers where you can left your model while it dries instead of hauling it back and forth. I saw a Japanese model youtuber visiting few of those, check your area.
I'd like to say thank you for getting me back into model building again. Your videos are the best. After watching a few of your videos I decided to pull out a model that I started 30 to 35 years ago. AMT pro shop 57 chevy bel air. Hope I don't bore you but here's a little history about me. When I was around 10 yrs old I began building models { 50's... 60's and some 70's cars and trucks }. Then a got a mini bike and models went away. In my early 20's I started again for a few years but then women got in the way and I stopped. In my early 30's I picked it up again and went crazy. I had about 150 unbuilt models and lots of nice accessories and hand tools. That lasted for around 5 yrs but life got in the way and I stopped. When I moved to florida from R.I. I took them with me { gave away half of them}. They sat in my garage until one day last year I decided to bring in the 57 and start working on it again but it just sat in my room for one year. Two weeks ago I happened to see one of your videos on youtube and got the fever again { Thanks to you }. I went to lobby hobby { only hobby shop in my area } an family dollar and dollar general and set up my work area { which look great' Thanks to you }. So I just wanted to drop a line and say Thank you. Your vids are the best and I'm looking forward to many more. By the way I'm a 66 year old man felling like a kid again. Kevin Falcone Spring Hill, Fl.
Robert, thank you so much for this alternative to outside venting. I really appreciate your videos. I don’t believe anyone else on you tube is addressing these important modeling issues and techniques. Please keep up your good work.
@kilodelta1495 agreed, that would be the safest with proper ventilation at your unit which most units don't have in the first place. I've actually done VOC testing to verify different setups with a $1000+ testing rig, and the kaizo x plus a 20 pound canlite is the only way that I have found that can reduce working VOCs down to levels that would be considered safe by your typical regs. Doing any of the stuff in the video is completely ineffective, including the water bucket nonsense which I've also VOC tested and it failed even with the kaizo x.
@@HobbyBench You said on another comment that you tested it with the kaizo and said that was the only way it worked for you. Now you say it doesn't work at all? Come on, man, if you're gonna be completely full of it, at least try to keep your story straight.
@mattpace1026 I don't think you know how to read. I was pretty clear that using a good intake system like the kaizo x as well as venting it into a canlite with 15-20 pounds of virgin carbon does work. Nothing is as good as venting outside, because your removing the air, but even that only works with a great negative pressure system on the intake and there is only one unit I know of in the consumer market that does that, the kazio x (not the mobile fort)
This is Jerry from Hot rod model cars, I really like your different colors of paint,and I'm trying finger nail polish for the first time,and your model paint is awesome,thank you keep up on your channel Jerry 😊
A particulate monitor is probably a good idea to have if you're spraying nastier chemicals etc so that you have confidence that your filtering is working how you expect.
Thank you so much for this video! I just installed my own system and I like it sooo much better than the old system I was using. Looks so much neater and more efficient.
This is really great! That filter box is just what I need as my new spray table area is in a closet. I have been out of the hobby since 2011, as I relocated overseas to work and didnt have access to model stuff for over a decade. I have since came back to the states and moved into a new home and am anxiously building up my new model room. Its been a long time coming! Thanks for this video
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you. One more thing... I want to build a basic spray box for my setup. I haven't got around to what you have in your videos yet, what do you recommend? In the past for many of my builds, I just used a cardboard box with a big cutout, my old badger brush, and acrylic paints, all in a small bedroom. Worked well but I need to upgrade a bit now, especially since I do go back and fourth between acrylics and enamels when required. Lastly, I'm interested in your swallowtail airbrush... Where can I get one? Thanks
Here's the link to my airbrush www.gaahleri.com/pages/barbatos-rex-swallowtail Here it is on Amazon amzn.to/4cwqgej I recommend a low cost booth from Amazon, for less than $100 it worth it, I built my own years ago with the cost over $60 and I wished I had just bought one. Here's one I can recommend amzn.to/3VSB6o6
I came up with a unique solution for venting a spray booth, indoors. I use a 5 gallon bucket and I crushed up lump charcoal pieces. A canister inside the bucket, with screens epoxied in place to keep the charcoal pieces out of the canister. I run the hose, from the spray booth, into the bucket trapping the fumes in the charcoal. It works great. No smell.
@@barbatosrex9473 my bucket, with crushed up lumps of charcoal came to me looking at a smokeless ashtray I have. Charcoal has always been used in filtration systems. I put that idea into my bucket with crushed up charcoal pieces, to trap the fumes in the bucket. I can't use my window vent. The fumes bother the sissy up above me. No longer a problem.
Wow!!! Thank you for sharing! I have a Pace Mini...i think that round one would be perfect for both paints! Way better than keeping the window cracked in the winter time... I do not paint as much as you lol
Thanks for the great info and video. Just an FYI for anyone ordering from Gaalheri. The people there are right on the ball at getting the item shipped but don't cheap out like I did and select DHL for shipping. It took almost 2 weeks from the time DHL got the Mobius 0.2 I ordered until it arrived at my door. USPS, UPS and Fedex does the same distance in 4 or 5 days.
Those are great! My favorite was the little square one easy to move back out of the way! YES!!!! That's awesome news!!! I'm on the waiting list for the airbrush!!❤❤❤
After watching one of your previous videos, I built the bucket system using my 3d printer to print the upper inlet to the bucket that attaches to the paint booth hose and the lower inlet tube that goes down about 200mm or so into the bucket. Then I put 8 holes (30mm dia) in the lid around the inlet. I printed a grate that stands up on posts about 250mm above the bottom of the bucket. It has a hole that the inlet tube goes through. I put the blue filter material on the grate and the black carbon material on top of that. When I close the lid the filter material is right under the lid. I put about 2 or 3 inches of water in the bottom and Bob's your uncle. It keeps me spraying in the winter. Thanks for all of the great tips and information.
I love you man but so worried about VOCs removing the smell isn’t necessarily a sign of removing them. 3d printer guys can attest to that with the carbon filters used there. Almost like taking the stink out of propane. Would want a VOC test.
being designed for vocs and being rated for full adsorption of a given fluid's voc contaminants at a specific flow rate are not even in the same universe. there is a very good reason 3m does not use this pad in the respirators sold for vocs. there is a very good reason all commercial voc scrubbers use a properly settled and packed bed of activated charcoal pellets or a manufactured carbon matrix block. dwell time and contact time are not matched for adsorbing vocs from an airstream in such a loosely woven matrix with such little carbon by weight @@Jedi_Jeff
there is a huge difference between "designed for vocs" and rated for removal of specific concentration of vocs at a specific flow rate and i assure you these are not rated for the concentration of a paint booth with lacquers sprayed in it. voc removal from air at the speeds a paint booth exhausts its effluent requires something with more actual carbon and much greater contact time with pelletized carbon. it is impossible for the vocs to be adsorbed efficiently enough to produce clean air in the set ups robert shows. for this pad to be effective you would need a serpentine maze chamber with pads in each level and only after passing through several chambers would the effluent be clean of vocs. given that restricting the airflow is not good you would need to account for pressure drops due to each bend in the serpentine array. the cross section of the chaber in each layer would need to be larger than output of the booth to allow for this. we are talking about a custom made fridge sized box with hundreds of dollars of carbon pad to get proper contact time as this pad is so porous and most of the air is unfiltered when exiting each layer id love to see you post any credible source for the claim that replacing the wrong tool for the job once a month makes it the right tool for the job@@Jedi_Jeff
@@NeoPest really appreciate you spending the time to spell it out. We only get one chance at life and I love my lacquer paints but only with a direct vent booth and respirator!
Great tips. I have vents but they are taken up with 3d printer venting. This is so convenient as my desk is a bit far from the vent. I am definitely going to use a tumble drier vent under the desk for airbrushing.
Remember when the big scare to make your own masks for covid? I did a little research and found a great material to add for filtering my spray booth and my shop vac. The material used in many reuseable grocery bags (blue Wal Mart bag) is perfect. It will not let water pass through it, but air will pass just fine. I take one of the bags and wrap it around my shop vacuum filter, and the finer particles, that used to plug up my shop vac filter, get stopped on the fabric, and my shop vac filter stays a lot cleaner. So, I applied this theory to my spray booth, and surprisingly enough placing it on the filter minimized the smells even more than with just the charcoal filter.
They actual sell rolls of that material in the craft section for just a few dollars (I paid like $2.00 a roll now it went up to like $4.00). 30 in x 9 yards oly*fun is the name. I also use it on the air intake for the furnace. Dust and debris just rinse off and the main filter stays fairly clean (extends the life of them quite a bit).@@bobrivett7645
We all have concerns about safety and that is a great thing. The best thing for painting in non-ventilated areas is to not do it, however there are ways to mitigate a safer environment to do so, as presented in the video. I guess maybe the part the material I mentioned of catching dust, debris, and yes other fine particulates was not articulated well, for that I apologize. Smells are a good indication to me that there are some particulates floating around that I do not want around. I am no rocket scientist nor am I saying it will remove 100% of anything. I am just adding another layer of protection to a filtration system to assist in keeping my hobby room safer. @@ninjatango
your layer of protection only works for non solvent paints and i think they were suggesting you should include this disclaimer. and even solvents smell can be reduced to low enough thresholds to not be sensed while the actual vocs in the room that have little to no odor are completely ignored as a current threat. the reality is very fine low micron physical filtration will likely trap most scent causing compounds as these tend to be larger chains and therefore physically larger contaminants to become trapped in the weave while the low odor causing solvents that are also more reactive tend to pass through. furthermore you are likely straining your boothgs fan motor and reducing the efficacy in the booth to pull paint in and not allow any to escape as these hobbyist booths are designed for ZERO restriction on the output. get dirty filters in AND out of your booth and you now have vastly reduced the suction and efficacy. and anyone reading this thinking of cutting up a perfectly good reusable shopping bag just to choke your shopvac motor and reduce performance : go buy a properly sized internal hepa rated debris collection bag that are sold for just about every brand and model and just throw it and all the dust away when suction reduces or it is completely full. they last a long long time, don't choke your motor and best of all are incredibly effective. i realize not everyone even knows shopvac hepa bag filers exist but these do not need or warrant a diy alternative they are just awesome. yes they cost 15$ but how valuable are your lungs? @@sgtatarms4780
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New Orleans, was born in New Orleans parish, father was stationed at the Naval Air Station. Didn't live there though, but been back many. One of favorite places to visit and explore.
Thank You Robert, You really knocked it out of the park. If you can smell it, it means the molecules are still floating around in the room. No more dead canaries and budgies! 👌👍
they are still floating around even if you cant smell it. usually you can rust your nose IF you smell something but rarely should you trust your nose if you DO NOT smell something. this is why extremely expensive electronic sniffers are required to be used to make sure a confined workspace is safe for humans to occupy. this is why canaries were used. their biology makes them extremely sensitive to changes in atmospheric gas ratios and physically react (die) at concentrations far lower than would kill a man in seconds. but these workers that didn't die in seconds still suffered permanent tissue damage often leading to painful early deaths and/or reduced physical capabilities when exposed to chronic sub-fatal levels
Hi Robert, thank you again for a great presentation on air booth's exhaust systems. Those examples you presented were great, but I still like the bucket system. All I can say is that you are a fountain of knowledge my friend. Kudos to you and I hope your wife is feeling better.
I'm working on a modification of the bucket hack. I found a lid that is primarily flat all the way across (Ace Hardware bucket). I have six 2" holes around the perimeter of the lid that I cover from the bottom with crescent shaped carbon filters they sell on Amazon for kitty litter boxes. Hot glued a pair of those over the 2" holes on the bottom of the lid. Used hot glue since I should be able to scrape it off the lid when I need to change the filter material. Works like a champ so far.
that carbon pad does not remove the voc's sufficiently to produce clean and safely breathable air but if you do want some form of post filter on the bucket you should know this little trick for hot glue : isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) nearly instantly destroys its grip on an object with as little as 1 drop applied to one edge of the glue requiring no scraping and allowing full removal of the glue from hard surfaces like that plastic lid. add the drop on te edge and then use a toothpick, plastic scraper, fingernail etc to push against the glue edge and as soon as the alcohol wicks itself under the gap you make in the edge its over for the bond
Very cool products and pretty good prices. As always Thank you very much for sharing and looking forward to the next video. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏
Absolutely brilliant. I can listen to Bob the Rex all day long, and I learn something new every time. What more can I say - Long Live the Barbados Rex Site. We have some good people on this side of the pond, but Bob the Rex is in a league of his own. USA, your lucky to have him. Robert, we all hope your better half is still well on the road to full recovery.💂
EDIT: Here is a guy who did it right: He tested his design, it does not work. ua-cam.com/video/fjhmXzvbyfA/v-deo.html Listen.... I like you and all, you have some great advice most of the time... But you should probably have a big disclaimer over the video that this is only for water based paints. That carbon filter is not going to affect the amount of VOC from using Tamiya LP or Mr Color paints. I would not want to be the author of this DIY taking responsibility for people sitting in their basement inhaling all these fumes. Just saying as none of us have the knowledge to determine what safe levels of VOC are in this hobby. At least I hope you explain the different purposes of filtering different kinds of paint. Acrylic water paints: Micro particulates in the air, paint dust and over spray Acrylic Enamels/ Acrylic lacquers (Mineral spirits/Cellulose thinner): Same as above but also more importantly Volatile Organic Compounds that are extremely harmful to our brains and bodies. These VOCs need to be ventilated to the outside. Also a hobby paint booth is not strong enough to avoid back blowing air, meaning that no matter how much carbon filtering you have sitting a couple of meters away, you will fill the room with fumes anyway.... Mine is 9m3 per minute (I don't belive it is but it says so) the 2 motor with pot meter controls, and I still get a face full of lacquer thinner at highest setting
i agree with everything but that carbon won't work. a sufficient amount of carbon with proper contact time of the air passing through it will make the air safe, this is how gas masks work. however it would require a complex maze of channels with a pad in each likely the size of a linen closet to actually pass zero voc air from its exhaust using these aquarium filters.
Thanks for the video. One question. Will these indoor ventilation options trap volatile organic compounds in the carbon filters and not just the smell?
Nope, not at all. It just (somewhat) lessens your ability to detect an odor, which is irrelevant. It’s like saying radioactive materials are safe because you can’t smell them. There is a reason we add a scent to household gas supply so you notice its presence. VOCs from paint are not detectable via odor.
some voc's are very odorous. the strange fruity ester smells of banana or pineapple is one of the biggest smells in hobby paints due to frequent inclusion of butyl acetate. but everything else you said is correct and needs to be seriously considered by robert. he replies to people asking when he will restock something he makes a cut on and other fluffy feel good comments or about his band shirt seen in the video but has completely ignored or even hidden any concerns about it while making more videos showing more ways to blast your home with vocs (it appears he's hidden at least two of my comments on the issue of vocs as they do not show up. i know yt removes comments but i used no banned keywords) @@ninjatango robert, i have always respected you and clicked every video as soon as it showed up and liked them and told people about you. please address this serious elephant in the booth that is proper application of carbon in a voc adsorption stage for recirculating systems that do not vent outside @barbatosrex9473
Love the video, been looking for an option for venting without access to a window at my new place. I'm only doing acrylics so I didn't need anything crazy.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I live in an apartment with no window in the room i build my models. This will work great, and I also need one for my dryer. maintenance has tried to clean my vents a few time and the vent i use is terrible. I will be buying 2 of the first one. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing this info with us... I appreciate you taking the time and expenses to show the choice's a person could have with ventilation.. Think I'm going to go with the first one.👍
while the chance is low of an explosion do not ignore the reality that if the dryer is still plumbed to the vent and the booth is connected via a tee fitting then the exhaust is pushing the vapors back into your dryer as well unless you installed some form of check valve to make flow one way from the dryer to the tee. and the dryer will push hot moist air into your dwelling back through the booth possibly blowing out a cloud of barely trapped paint dust from your booth 'filter and if they are plumbed together using a tee then the low explosion risk is still there waiting for someone to need their favorite pair of jeeas to rush dry without knowing if the fumes are fully evacuated
This is great. I dont have much spsce or an opening window in my new apartment. However we do have an office space with private rooms, so this would be great to try there when i can get around to airbrushing again.
Awesome follow up to the extraction bucket video! Nice to see that you're listening to great music as well! Are you Greek by any chance? Barbatos is a Greek surname :)
Thats how Is industrial down draft tables work. Just like a bong. Where you trap everything in the water. They use them all the time in aircraft or deburring flammable Materials because they wont build up in a filter and Catch fire
are these alternatives actually chemically safe solutions? Sure it will catch paint particulates, but what about the toxic VOC fumes? I'd only try this if it filters as good as a gas filtering respirator mask.
No, they are not. It will cut down on dust and particles to some degree but does nothing to address the danger of VOCs. If you are only using water based solvents exclusively, it would be ok but does nothing to prevent toxins from pumping right back into your lungs. They do not absorb into the water, and the buckets and passive filter pads etc. are nowhere near capable of filtering out VOCs. On top of this, the consumer grade filter pads in the video are meant for aquaria and are much less effective in air than in submersion.
this wont save your life or your wallet. a 4" x 16" inline charcoal filter on amazon is 30 bucks and actually will clean the air output from most booths on the market. a 6x24 is better for large booths.
Currently setting up a spray booth for painting my slot car bodies. I love this idea with the dryer filter. Thanks for this video. Subed your channel. 🏁🍻
I've been using your 5 gallon bucket method since you first posted it and love it. Super easy to make and works great. I am willing to bet that I have purchased more items from your videos than any other subscriber of yours... Take that as a compliment bc I follow a ton of modelers.
I appreciate your effort. I have learned an alternative to opening the window during winter! I noticed on the first premade unit that it appears the air is forced out the ends, not out the translucent gray front. i could be wrong, because we didn't get a good look at it in the video. If I'm mistaken, please accept my apologies.
The translucent grey part just holds water. The water catches paint particles as it blows by it and then out of the top where the charcoal filter pad is.
Robert, Im betting there is a way to use that first one as a "portable". I've wondered about airbrushing scenery that is already in place. All you would have to do is find a system to hold the hose over or near what you are spraying and have the filter on your back. I might see what I can come up with
Thats an awesome idea. Thise carbon filters... will they work for lacquers as well? Also.. I bet if anyone has a 3d printer you could print up some brackets to hold the filters?...
do not trust your health to these filters. they are the same ones sold by chinese resin printer makers as "purifiers" and there are a few videos on yt showing these in use and failing miserably to purify air. use a properly made pelletized charcoal filter sold for cannabis growing if using lacquers
it appears robert is hiding my prior comment warning you this is not safe for lacquers which is not good look for him at all. hopefully you see this before he hides me altogether. safety first. live to make another model! EDIT 18 hours later and now my prior comment is back
No, they objectively DO NOT remove lacquer fumes and the VOCs that those warning labels are talking about. Saying otherwise is like saying it’s ok to smoke around babies because the window’s cracked.
no man you gotta crack the back window put the baby in the front seat and then get the car up to around 80. the smoke will move back to the rear and get removed . you can actually speed up this smoke removal by putting cups of water in front of your air conditioner vents. and while this was all sarcastic and should never be done, one use of aquarium pads that does work is flatulence abatement. seriously they sell underwear that has a pocket for a little piece of this lmfao @@ninjatango
Great alternatives for folks without an easily accessible window! One thing to remember if you use solvent-based paints is to replace your carbon frequently! Activated carbon gets “used up” (all adsorption sites in the molecular structure filled up) pretty fast, and then it’s useless. You might not smell or notice any difference, but the VOCs will not be filtered anymore and it’s not great to be breathing those in an enclosed space. Even if it smells fine. Put in fresh carbon every so often (how often depends on how much you airbrush), and this will work great.
Also it starts degrading as soon as you open it. It constantly absorbs stuff from the air. Doesn't have to be from your paints.
This is often overlooked. For a respirator to maintain its rating, it has to be in a sealed container when not in use. They degrade rapidly in open atmosphere due to absorbing everything from the air. You need to keep your mask (or just its filters) in a sealed Tupperware or plastic bag, etc.. Throwing the mask in a gallon Ziplock bag after use extends its useful life enormously.
Great alternative? It's like saying you can also put a plastic bag over your head if you don't have a window. This thing does exactly nothing. Every spray booth already catches overspray in a cloth - but all the solvent vapors gets past it like nothing. Adding some random water vapor trap at the end doesn't do anything.
@habiks all these are completely ineffective and a waste of money. The only way I've found to effectively filter VOCs is using a canlite 20 pound exhaust filter, after using the kaizo water curtain. I've voc tested this and it does work, but will need to be changed or redried every 1-2 years depending on your usage.
I've VOC tested doing into a water bucket and it does nothing but move vocs
@@ninjatangothat is where people are making a huge mistake that is the reason I hate that everyone thinks wear a filter is the greatest thing in the world. Especially for resin 3d printing in the house, yes the use a filter when they open the lid up but generally it will spread the voc all over the inside the house, go through the walls to up stairs. Than they don’t change the carbon mask or the air filters they have on the portable units. 7 to 10 day normally is what they are good for place them in the plastic bag will extend them how long it depends on use I would replace them at the 14 day mark or if you use them every day max 10 days.
I really appreciate running into your channel, the wealth of information, and the product reviews have guided many of my purchases. Continue the great work and thank you.
Thank you Angel
Years ago when I first moved to Japan I had to use the bucket it did a great job until I got. A spray booth in Japan Apartments you don't have very much room and you have to be very creative .I made Many different variations of it..but nothing will replace a good vent to the outside. Good video Robert Keep them coming brother
Precisely because of that many Hobby shops in Japan has a "hobby room" with multiple spray booths with compressors and airbrushes set up that you can rent for hours. Some even have key lockers where you can left your model while it dries instead of hauling it back and forth. I saw a Japanese model youtuber visiting few of those, check your area.
I'd like to say thank you for getting me back into model building again. Your videos are the best. After watching a few of your videos I decided to pull out a model that I started 30 to 35 years ago. AMT pro shop 57 chevy bel air. Hope I don't bore you but here's a little history about me. When I was around 10 yrs old I began building models { 50's... 60's and some 70's cars and trucks }. Then a got a mini bike and models went away. In my early 20's I started again for a few years but then women got in the way and I stopped. In my early 30's I picked it up again and went crazy. I had about 150 unbuilt models and lots of nice accessories and hand tools. That lasted for around 5 yrs but life got in the way and I stopped. When I moved to florida from R.I. I took them with me { gave away half of them}. They sat in my garage until one day last year I decided to bring in the 57 and start working on it again but it just sat in my room for one year. Two weeks ago I happened to see one of your videos on youtube and got the fever again { Thanks to you }. I went to lobby hobby { only hobby shop in my area } an family dollar and dollar general and set up my work area { which look great' Thanks to you }.
So I just wanted to drop a line and say Thank you. Your vids are the best and I'm looking forward to many more. By the way I'm a 66 year old man felling like a kid again.
Kevin Falcone
Spring Hill, Fl.
Well I'll tell you I'd love to move out there just so I could ride the motorcycle throughout the year
Incredibly helpful video I wish I had thought of this sooner
Thanks James
Robert, thank you so much for this alternative to outside venting. I really appreciate your videos. I don’t believe anyone else on you tube is addressing these important modeling issues and techniques. Please keep up your good work.
This won't work, if you want a system that's actually safe for spraying inside take a look at my most recent video
@@HobbyBench A safe system for spraying inside vents to the outside.
@kilodelta1495 agreed, that would be the safest with proper ventilation at your unit which most units don't have in the first place. I've actually done VOC testing to verify different setups with a $1000+ testing rig, and the kaizo x plus a 20 pound canlite is the only way that I have found that can reduce working VOCs down to levels that would be considered safe by your typical regs. Doing any of the stuff in the video is completely ineffective, including the water bucket nonsense which I've also VOC tested and it failed even with the kaizo x.
@@HobbyBench You said on another comment that you tested it with the kaizo and said that was the only way it worked for you. Now you say it doesn't work at all?
Come on, man, if you're gonna be completely full of it, at least try to keep your story straight.
@mattpace1026 I don't think you know how to read. I was pretty clear that using a good intake system like the kaizo x as well as venting it into a canlite with 15-20 pounds of virgin carbon does work. Nothing is as good as venting outside, because your removing the air, but even that only works with a great negative pressure system on the intake and there is only one unit I know of in the consumer market that does that, the kazio x (not the mobile fort)
This is Jerry from Hot rod model cars, I really like your different colors of paint,and I'm trying finger nail polish for the first time,and your model paint is awesome,thank you keep up on your channel Jerry 😊
My Pace will be here Monday, and with this cold weather. This video comes in very handy!
How long ago did you order it?
@@iknplsu Jan 1st
@@cali_og I ordered mine on January 5
Love the filtration system and the upgrades.
A particulate monitor is probably a good idea to have if you're spraying nastier chemicals etc so that you have confidence that your filtering is working how you expect.
The last two options are perfect for our condo while being storable. Thank you for introducing me to the world of indoor dryer vents!
Thank you so much for this video! I just installed my own system and I like it sooo much better than the old system I was using. Looks so much neater and more efficient.
That's awesome, glad to hear I helped out
OVERKILL!!! I see you're a Heavy Metal fan💥 Same here and they're one of my favorite bands.
This is really great! That filter box is just what I need as my new spray table area is in a closet. I have been out of the hobby since 2011, as I relocated overseas to work and didnt have access to model stuff for over a decade. I have since came back to the states and moved into a new home and am anxiously building up my new model room. Its been a long time coming! Thanks for this video
You're welcome my friend and welcome back to the hobby 👍
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you. One more thing... I want to build a basic spray box for my setup. I haven't got around to what you have in your videos yet, what do you recommend? In the past for many of my builds, I just used a cardboard box with a big cutout, my old badger brush, and acrylic paints, all in a small bedroom. Worked well but I need to upgrade a bit now, especially since I do go back and fourth between acrylics and enamels when required.
Lastly, I'm interested in your swallowtail airbrush... Where can I get one? Thanks
Here's the link to my airbrush
www.gaahleri.com/pages/barbatos-rex-swallowtail
Here it is on Amazon
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I recommend a low cost booth from Amazon, for less than $100 it worth it, I built my own years ago with the cost over $60 and I wished I had just bought one. Here's one I can recommend
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@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks a bunch! Cheers
I came up with a unique solution for venting a spray booth, indoors. I use a 5 gallon bucket and I crushed up lump charcoal pieces. A canister inside the bucket, with screens epoxied in place to keep the charcoal pieces out of the canister. I run the hose, from the spray booth, into the bucket trapping the fumes in the charcoal. It works great. No smell.
Great info. Activated carbon is great. I just went with water in my bucket video. I might have to do an update
@@barbatosrex9473 my bucket, with crushed up lumps of charcoal came to me looking at a smokeless ashtray I have. Charcoal has always been used in filtration systems. I put that idea into my bucket with crushed up charcoal pieces, to trap the fumes in the bucket. I can't use my window vent. The fumes bother the sissy up above me. No longer a problem.
Nice! Some of these cost more than the bucket, but they all solve the airflow issue. Thanks for the ideas.
Wow!!! Thank you for sharing! I have a Pace Mini...i think that round one would be perfect for both paints! Way better than keeping the window cracked in the winter time... I do not paint as much as you lol
Thanks for the great info and video.
Just an FYI for anyone ordering from Gaalheri. The people there are right on the ball at getting the item shipped but don't cheap out like I did and select DHL for shipping. It took almost 2 weeks from the time DHL got the Mobius 0.2 I ordered until it arrived at my door. USPS, UPS and Fedex does the same distance in 4 or 5 days.
Those are great! My favorite was the little square one easy to move back out of the way! YES!!!! That's awesome news!!! I'm on the waiting list for the airbrush!!❤❤❤
I have a window but this time of year in Washington state those could help keep it warm an thanks for your time an effort on your videos Robert 👍🏻👍🏻
After watching one of your previous videos, I built the bucket system using my 3d printer to print the upper inlet to the bucket that attaches to the paint booth hose and the lower inlet tube that goes down about 200mm or so into the bucket. Then I put 8 holes (30mm dia) in the lid around the inlet. I printed a grate that stands up on posts about 250mm above the bottom of the bucket. It has a hole that the inlet tube goes through. I put the blue filter material on the grate and the black carbon material on top of that. When I close the lid the filter material is right under the lid. I put about 2 or 3 inches of water in the bottom and Bob's your uncle. It keeps me spraying in the winter. Thanks for all of the great tips and information.
I love you man but so worried about VOCs removing the smell isn’t necessarily a sign of removing them. 3d printer guys can attest to that with the carbon filters used there. Almost like taking the stink out of propane. Would want a VOC test.
yep this hill robert has decided to climb up on may literally be his dying one
The carbon filter he listed is designed for VOCs. You will need to replace them at least once a month, depending on usage.
being designed for vocs and being rated for full adsorption of a given fluid's voc contaminants at a specific flow rate are not even in the same universe. there is a very good reason 3m does not use this pad in the respirators sold for vocs. there is a very good reason all commercial voc scrubbers use a properly settled and packed bed of activated charcoal pellets or a manufactured carbon matrix block. dwell time and contact time are not matched for adsorbing vocs from an airstream in such a loosely woven matrix with such little carbon by weight @@Jedi_Jeff
there is a huge difference between "designed for vocs" and rated for removal of specific concentration of vocs at a specific flow rate and i assure you these are not rated for the concentration of a paint booth with lacquers sprayed in it. voc removal from air at the speeds a paint booth exhausts its effluent requires something with more actual carbon and much greater contact time with pelletized carbon. it is impossible for the vocs to be adsorbed efficiently enough to produce clean air in the set ups robert shows. for this pad to be effective you would need a serpentine maze chamber with pads in each level and only after passing through several chambers would the effluent be clean of vocs. given that restricting the airflow is not good you would need to account for pressure drops due to each bend in the serpentine array. the cross section of the chaber in each layer would need to be larger than output of the booth to allow for this. we are talking about a custom made fridge sized box with hundreds of dollars of carbon pad to get proper contact time as this pad is so porous and most of the air is unfiltered when exiting each layer
id love to see you post any credible source for the claim that replacing the wrong tool for the job once a month makes it the right tool for the job@@Jedi_Jeff
@@NeoPest really appreciate you spending the time to spell it out. We only get one chance at life and I love my lacquer paints but only with a direct vent booth and respirator!
That’s brilliant. Clever ideas that are clearly explained and all potential questions answered. Very professional. Great work, great video.
You have read my mind about these indoor "venting" systems. Thanks!
Great tips. I have vents but they are taken up with 3d printer venting. This is so convenient as my desk is a bit far from the vent. I am definitely going to use a tumble drier vent under the desk for airbrushing.
Remember when the big scare to make your own masks for covid? I did a little research and found a great material to add for filtering my spray booth and my shop vac. The material used in many reuseable grocery bags (blue Wal Mart bag) is perfect. It will not let water pass through it, but air will pass just fine. I take one of the bags and wrap it around my shop vacuum filter, and the finer particles, that used to plug up my shop vac filter, get stopped on the fabric, and my shop vac filter stays a lot cleaner. So, I applied this theory to my spray booth, and surprisingly enough placing it on the filter minimized the smells even more than with just the charcoal filter.
Wow, who would have ever thought of using a Walmart bag. I got to try that both for my shop-vac and booth. Thank you for the tip/hack.
They actual sell rolls of that material in the craft section for just a few dollars (I paid like $2.00 a roll now it went up to like $4.00). 30 in x 9 yards oly*fun is the name. I also use it on the air intake for the furnace. Dust and debris just rinse off and the main filter stays fairly clean (extends the life of them quite a bit).@@bobrivett7645
Smells are not the problem.
We all have concerns about safety and that is a great thing. The best thing for painting in non-ventilated areas is to not do it, however there are ways to mitigate a safer environment to do so, as presented in the video.
I guess maybe the part the material I mentioned of catching dust, debris, and yes other fine particulates was not articulated well, for that I apologize.
Smells are a good indication to me that there are some particulates floating around that I do not want around. I am no rocket scientist nor am I saying it will remove 100% of anything. I am just adding another layer of protection to a filtration system to assist in keeping my hobby room safer. @@ninjatango
your layer of protection only works for non solvent paints and i think they were suggesting you should include this disclaimer. and even solvents smell can be reduced to low enough thresholds to not be sensed while the actual vocs in the room that have little to no odor are completely ignored as a current threat. the reality is very fine low micron physical filtration will likely trap most scent causing compounds as these tend to be larger chains and therefore physically larger contaminants to become trapped in the weave while the low odor causing solvents that are also more reactive tend to pass through. furthermore you are likely straining your boothgs fan motor and reducing the efficacy in the booth to pull paint in and not allow any to escape as these hobbyist booths are designed for ZERO restriction on the output. get dirty filters in AND out of your booth and you now have vastly reduced the suction and efficacy. and anyone reading this thinking of cutting up a perfectly good reusable shopping bag just to choke your shopvac motor and reduce performance : go buy a properly sized internal hepa rated debris collection bag that are sold for just about every brand and model and just throw it and all the dust away when suction reduces or it is completely full. they last a long long time, don't choke your motor and best of all are incredibly effective. i realize not everyone even knows shopvac hepa bag filers exist but these do not need or warrant a diy alternative they are just awesome. yes they cost 15$ but how valuable are your lungs? @@sgtatarms4780
OVERKILL they're my favorite band. I've had their live album "wrecking everything" in my cars cd player for almost 5 years now without taking it out. They never come to New Orleans and can't get away to ever see them when they tour.
Awesome band, not a bad album in their discography
New Orleans, was born in New Orleans parish, father was stationed at the Naval Air Station. Didn't live there though, but been back many. One of favorite places to visit and explore.
Just getting ready to purchase a spray booth and this video was exactly the info that I needed to see! Thanks!!!
Very cool idea. Better than leaving window cracked in winter time👍
These are great idea's that I never thought of. I'm new to airbrushing so your videos are really helpgul.
Thank You Robert, You really knocked it out of the park. If you can smell it, it means the molecules are still floating around in the room. No more dead canaries and budgies! 👌👍
they are still floating around even if you cant smell it. usually you can rust your nose IF you smell something but rarely should you trust your nose if you DO NOT smell something. this is why extremely expensive electronic sniffers are required to be used to make sure a confined workspace is safe for humans to occupy. this is why canaries were used. their biology makes them extremely sensitive to changes in atmospheric gas ratios and physically react (die) at concentrations far lower than would kill a man in seconds. but these workers that didn't die in seconds still suffered permanent tissue damage often leading to painful early deaths and/or reduced physical capabilities when exposed to chronic sub-fatal levels
Hi Robert, thank you again for a great presentation on air booth's exhaust systems. Those examples you presented were great, but I still like the bucket system. All I can say is that you are a fountain of knowledge my friend. Kudos to you and I hope your wife is feeling better.
Thank you very much for all the hard work you do for us hobbyists!!!!!
Robert thank you again for the different options for venting inside.
Bro your channel is so useful. Thank you for all the time and energy you give to the community!
Always enjoy watching your videos they are so informative and helpful to watch
I'm working on a modification of the bucket hack. I found a lid that is primarily flat all the way across (Ace Hardware bucket). I have six 2" holes around the perimeter of the lid that I cover from the bottom with crescent shaped carbon filters they sell on Amazon for kitty litter boxes. Hot glued a pair of those over the 2" holes on the bottom of the lid. Used hot glue since I should be able to scrape it off the lid when I need to change the filter material. Works like a champ so far.
Sure it works for a few uses, more or less. Of course, you’re not removing the VOCs from your air much.
that carbon pad does not remove the voc's sufficiently to produce clean and safely breathable air but if you do want some form of post filter on the bucket you should know this little trick for hot glue : isopropanol (rubbing alcohol) nearly instantly destroys its grip on an object with as little as 1 drop applied to one edge of the glue requiring no scraping and allowing full removal of the glue from hard surfaces like that plastic lid. add the drop on te edge and then use a toothpick, plastic scraper, fingernail etc to push against the glue edge and as soon as the alcohol wicks itself under the gap you make in the edge its over for the bond
This was fun to watch and it was very informative.
The Overkill shirt was a nice bonus 🤘
Hello From The Gutter
Thanks, this is better than a bucket for me. Appreciate the research
Very cool products and pretty good prices. As always Thank you very much for sharing and looking forward to the next video. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏
The "Get Thrashed" music documentary feat lots of Overkill interviews. Not surprising as the co-producer of the film was Overkill's drummer.
Great band, never really put out a bad album. Very consistent for over 30 years
Absolutely brilliant. I can listen to Bob the Rex all day long, and I learn something new every time. What more can I say - Long Live the Barbados Rex Site. We have some good people on this side of the pond, but Bob the Rex is in a league of his own. USA, your lucky to have him. Robert, we all hope your better half is still well on the road to full recovery.💂
Amazing timing I was just thinking about this
EDIT: Here is a guy who did it right: He tested his design, it does not work.
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Listen.... I like you and all, you have some great advice most of the time...
But you should probably have a big disclaimer over the video that this is only for water based paints.
That carbon filter is not going to affect the amount of VOC from using Tamiya LP or Mr Color paints.
I would not want to be the author of this DIY taking responsibility for people sitting in their basement inhaling all these fumes. Just saying as none of us have the knowledge to determine what safe levels of VOC are in this hobby.
At least I hope you explain the different purposes of filtering different kinds of paint.
Acrylic water paints: Micro particulates in the air, paint dust and over spray
Acrylic Enamels/ Acrylic lacquers (Mineral spirits/Cellulose thinner): Same as above but also more importantly Volatile Organic Compounds that are extremely harmful to our brains and bodies. These VOCs need to be ventilated to the outside.
Also a hobby paint booth is not strong enough to avoid back blowing air, meaning that no matter how much carbon filtering you have sitting a couple of meters away, you will fill the room with fumes anyway.... Mine is 9m3 per minute (I don't belive it is but it says so) the 2 motor with pot meter controls, and I still get a face full of lacquer thinner at highest setting
i agree with everything but that carbon won't work. a sufficient amount of carbon with proper contact time of the air passing through it will make the air safe, this is how gas masks work. however it would require a complex maze of channels with a pad in each likely the size of a linen closet to actually pass zero voc air from its exhaust using these aquarium filters.
It’s like you are reading my mind. I plan on building my spray booth in a basement tomorrow.
Good times ahead my friend
This is a very quick and thorough guide. Thank you!
I made dryer box few months ago, since i got other dryer and left with the box and hose. Works nice
I'm always amazed at what you come up with.
Thanks for the video. One question. Will these indoor ventilation options trap volatile organic compounds in the carbon filters and not just the smell?
Nope, not at all. It just (somewhat) lessens your ability to detect an odor, which is irrelevant. It’s like saying radioactive materials are safe because you can’t smell them. There is a reason we add a scent to household gas supply so you notice its presence. VOCs from paint are not detectable via odor.
some voc's are very odorous. the strange fruity ester smells of banana or pineapple is one of the biggest smells in hobby paints due to frequent inclusion of butyl acetate. but everything else you said is correct and needs to be seriously considered by robert. he replies to people asking when he will restock something he makes a cut on and other fluffy feel good comments or about his band shirt seen in the video but has completely ignored or even hidden any concerns about it while making more videos showing more ways to blast your home with vocs (it appears he's hidden at least two of my comments on the issue of vocs as they do not show up. i know yt removes comments but i used no banned keywords)
@@ninjatango
robert, i have always respected you and clicked every video as soon as it showed up and liked them and told people about you. please address this serious elephant in the booth that is proper application of carbon in a voc adsorption stage for recirculating systems that do not vent outside @barbatosrex9473
Love the video, been looking for an option for venting without access to a window at my new place. I'm only doing acrylics so I didn't need anything crazy.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I live in an apartment with no window in the room i build my models. This will work great, and I also need one for my dryer. maintenance has tried to clean my vents a few time and the vent i use is terrible. I will be buying 2 of the first one. Thanks again.
Remember that's good only for water based paints, don't make yourself gas chamber.
Thanks for sharing this info with us... I appreciate you taking the time and expenses to show the choice's a person could have with ventilation.. Think I'm going to go with the first one.👍
Hey man thanks. Never entered my mind to do this. I never even knew there was such a thing.
Looking forward to the vice video👍🏻 I’m in desperate need for a hobby vice that isn’t made from Chineseum metal
I literally just ran my exhaust from my booth to the dryer vent. I guess now I don't necessarily have to paint in my laundry room. 😆
while the chance is low of an explosion do not ignore the reality that if the dryer is still plumbed to the vent and the booth is connected via a tee fitting then the exhaust is pushing the vapors back into your dryer as well unless you installed some form of check valve to make flow one way from the dryer to the tee. and the dryer will push hot moist air into your dwelling back through the booth possibly blowing out a cloud of barely trapped paint dust from your booth 'filter and if they are plumbed together using a tee then the low explosion risk is still there waiting for someone to need their favorite pair of jeeas to rush dry without knowing if the fumes are fully evacuated
Totally awesome video, love these hacks.
So happy to find your channel! This videowas very helpful! I don't have a window in my wok area so these are great solutions😁
Thank you my friend
You are the man Robert, a damn genius. I’m on the gaahleri list for the baddest airbrush ever. Can’t wait to get it. Thanks man
This is great. I dont have much spsce or an opening window in my new apartment. However we do have an office space with private rooms, so this would be great to try there when i can get around to airbrushing again.
I use a dryer hose vented to my bathroom with the bathroom fan on in a pinch. Door closed as much as possible of course.
Love your channel. You saved me drilling a great big hole on my garage wall. What a great idea. Love the tests and reviews, keep them coming.
Great video!!
I’ve learned so much from your channel,thank you
You're welcome buddy 👍
Cool. I think I would put the carbon filter on the inside on that first one. Just looks nicer I think.
What good taste in the choice of T-shirt, and the video helped too, thank you. Greetings from Germany.
Awesome follow up to the extraction bucket video! Nice to see that you're listening to great music as well! Are you Greek by any chance? Barbatos is a Greek surname :)
I'm an Italian American. Barbatos is the name of a Mecha from the anime Iron Blooded Orphans. Search that anime and you'll see Barbatos
@@barbatosrex9473 ah yes the Japanese obsession with Greek words 😆.
Thats how Is industrial down draft tables work. Just like a bong. Where you trap everything in the water. They use them all the time in aircraft or deburring flammable Materials because they wont build up in a filter and Catch fire
Dang! I wish I've seen this video when it was released. Those are handy! It'll be on my wish list. Gotta save up money for it.
Great video, Robert! That last square box one will be perfect for my booth setup. As always, thanks for what you do!
Nice shirt, man! I knew there was something extra cool about you!
I love metal. Thank God I'm at the age I am. I'm class of 83 so I was there at the birth of thrash. This type of music brings me such joy
As always a complete video of showing almost all the options available for an indoor filtration system. Thanks!
are these alternatives actually chemically safe solutions? Sure it will catch paint particulates, but what about the toxic VOC fumes? I'd only try this if it filters as good as a gas filtering respirator mask.
No, they are not. It will cut down on dust and particles to some degree but does nothing to address the danger of VOCs. If you are only using water based solvents exclusively, it would be ok but does nothing to prevent toxins from pumping right back into your lungs. They do not absorb into the water, and the buckets and passive filter pads etc. are nowhere near capable of filtering out VOCs. On top of this, the consumer grade filter pads in the video are meant for aquaria and are much less effective in air than in submersion.
no they are not remotely safe for solvents in a closed environment in which you share the atmosphere
Thank you, always looking for ways to save.
Looking forward to the vice video. Thank you Mr. Rex
this wont save your life or your wallet. a 4" x 16" inline charcoal filter on amazon is 30 bucks and actually will clean the air output from most booths on the market. a 6x24 is better for large booths.
Just got my dryer vent delivered of off Amazon and got it installed, what a killer idea my friend. And double activated charcoal filters! Thanks!
You're welcome buddy, that's great news
Currently setting up a spray booth for painting my slot car bodies. I love this idea with the dryer filter. Thanks for this video. Subed your channel. 🏁🍻
I greatly appreciate all that you do and help us out with. These are great tools.
I've been using your 5 gallon bucket method since you first posted it and love it. Super easy to make and works great. I am willing to bet that I have purchased more items from your videos than any other subscriber of yours... Take that as a compliment bc I follow a ton of modelers.
Thank you my friend for the kind words
Great video! It’s giving me some great ideas for using an interior filter! I’ve got some ideas spinning around in my head. Thanks! 🤔
This an absolutely fantastic idea! Thank you so much for sharing. You have just solved my problem!
I appreciate your effort. I have learned an alternative to opening the window during winter! I noticed on the first premade unit that it appears the air is forced out the ends, not out the translucent gray front. i could be wrong, because we didn't get a good look at it in the video. If I'm mistaken, please accept my apologies.
The translucent grey part just holds water. The water catches paint particles as it blows by it and then out of the top where the charcoal filter pad is.
Thanks for your hard work making this video dude. I didn’t even know these were a thing. 👍👍👍👍👍
really cool. i gotta try something like this
Amazing!
Thank you my friend
Hi everybody. I hope all of you are doing well.
I could tell just by the way you speak that you were from New England. Thank you for the information and links. Subbed!
Welcome aboard Neal
Great idea, sure I saw another guy doing this on Instagram a couple weeks back
Dude !!! Love the shirt I love the band to
Overkill baby 🤟
Another great video Rex! Thank you
Another great how to video .when do you have time to build ?
Thanks for the ride!! I'll try it !!
Great alternatives I might go for something like this thanks for sharing regards Fred ps nice to see a face to the voice 👍🏻
What are your opinions on the using the first two methods with 2K clear? Great video that was very informative.
2K is a tough one. You definitely need a respirator with it. If you double up on the carbon filters you might be alright
Thank you Rob for another informative video.
Great ideas - thanks for posting
Robert, Im betting there is a way to use that first one as a "portable". I've wondered about airbrushing scenery that is already in place. All you would have to do is find a system to hold the hose over or near what you are spraying and have the filter on your back. I might see what I can come up with
simply genius
Thats an awesome idea. Thise carbon filters... will they work for lacquers as well? Also.. I bet if anyone has a 3d printer you could print up some brackets to hold the filters?...
do not trust your health to these filters. they are the same ones sold by chinese resin printer makers as "purifiers" and there are a few videos on yt showing these in use and failing miserably to purify air. use a properly made pelletized charcoal filter sold for cannabis growing if using lacquers
it appears robert is hiding my prior comment warning you this is not safe for lacquers which is not good look for him at all. hopefully you see this before he hides me altogether. safety first. live to make another model! EDIT 18 hours later and now my prior comment is back
No, they objectively DO NOT remove lacquer fumes and the VOCs that those warning labels are talking about. Saying otherwise is like saying it’s ok to smoke around babies because the window’s cracked.
no man you gotta crack the back window put the baby in the front seat and then get the car up to around 80. the smoke will move back to the rear and get removed . you can actually speed up this smoke removal by putting cups of water in front of your air conditioner vents. and while this was all sarcastic and should never be done, one use of aquarium pads that does work is flatulence abatement. seriously they sell underwear that has a pocket for a little piece of this lmfao @@ninjatango
What about the fan cap for the swallowtail!! Need two!
Back in stock soon, this month for sure
@@barbatosrex9473thanks!
Enjoyed the detailed video.
How did you pin the head to the cork?
I need something like this, but HEPA and Airtight, for venting a 3D printer enclosure.
Thanks for the demo! 👍