I've constructed something similar to this. You can purchase Hepa fabric material to screen off fine particulates, but when it comes to white spirits (varsol/ alkyd paint thinner), lacquer thinner, acetone, xylene or anything that fries brain cells, vent outside. If you have a living bird in a cage nearby, you may learn a very sad lesson the hard way. If it's no good for our feathered friends, it's not good for us either. I ONLY use this indoor method with water-based acrylics and Isopropyl alcohol as a thinner and cleaner.
I blow mine through a box of activated charcoal pellets for fish tanks, works really well for cutting down the odors and is pretty cheap in bulk. Then I just burn the charcoal in my fireplace near the end of winter which is about when it starts to get exhausted anyway. A few kgs of the stuff at a time goes a long way, especially if you seal the box between uses.
Alcohol is one of the worst things we can breathe as modelers. I run a similar setup to this for laquers (I spray very little in 1/72 scale mostly) and I pop a window for fresh air. Regardless of what medium I'm using, you better believe I'm properly masked up. Hope you are as well. Alcohol based acrylic is vicious.
What perfect timing for those of us in the north without a window. I saw the bucket on your last video and was about to ask about it. Then saw this video come up, so thank you for sharing!
This is genius I just moved into a new tiny apartment and didn't have proper ventilation to paint my model kits now all you got to do is make a quick stop to home Depot or whatever and then find some filter foam dope ideas thanks for sharing
Very cool idea. I see multiple asks about resin fumes from printers, spray paints, etc. This method is only safe for (1) particulates (like dried paint droplets) or (2) water-soluble vapours. Since resin and solvent fumes (etc) are neither, they will pass through or over the water and back out the holes into your room. Also, running the hose into the water, as some have asked, will make it more effective as a filter but it will cause more back pressure and your fan won't perform as well, so that's your trade-off.🤔
If anyone is asking if this would work for resin prints they really shouldn't have a resin printer those are the same people that get water wash resin and think it's safe to rinse down the sink drain lol
@zandarrthegreat6790 um it's not a mock it's a thing like do research before buying and know all the hazards it's like if you live in an apartment and don't use air filters and such and it gets into the air ducts and the voc travel thru the air system it will get into everyone's rooms and so Irresponsible for something like that to happen
I,m going to go with two buckets, water from bottom, with a few UV strips. Oxygen prevents photo reactive resin from reacting. Lots of little bubbles should help. And then a second bucket fitted to the top, full of activated carbon, and then outside. I got pet birds so I have to be extra careful.
this is pretty cool, basically like those waterfall booths, both are probably fine for acrylics but for lacquers and such its not just about evacuating overspray, but the VOCs too, which this will not do, especially dangerous if youre using it indoors.
@@Lifeinerinn you could create the same setup as this but use a real active coal filter instead of this foam filter. If it works in a protective mask than it should theoretically work with this too.
@@Lifeinerinn a strong exhaust fan vented to outside is the only thing I would use for enamel and lacquers. Theres some nasty stuff in a lot of model paints, especially lacquers, really not worth the exposure risk to half ass the ventilation, especially if you paint kits with any significant frequency. VOCs can be carcinogenic or at least cause irreversible tissue damage. I personally use one of those explosion proof 10 exhaust fans that moves like 1942 cfm. It's overkill but nothing escapes my booth and it's peace of mind.
@@Lifeinerinn enamels and lacquers have lots of solvents and other nasty VOC-producing products in them, usually much more than most acrylic-based products. While an active carbon filters, HEPA filters and a NIOSH P100 protective mask might work for acrylics ona moderate period of time, VOCs eventually need to go somewhere outside to mitigate health risks. I would follow _jovian's advice and invest in a proper ventilation system for safety, especially if you've got other people living in your house.
Well considering every single one of those paint booths state "not for use with solvent based paints" just using them with lacquers or enamels is dangerous itself. They don't come with explosion proof fans. Hence why they're so cheap.
One of the best tips ever. My modeling room is in my basement and I have no windows. So I have had to use all acrylic or hope the weather was good so I could spray outside.
Yes indeed. I can spray Alclad in my apartment and not stink the place up using one. Not horribly expensive and last a really long time. Also take up a bit less space than a 5 gallon bucket. But the bucket method DOES work!
I used the charcoal filter exhaust system for my grow tent and it does work I now use it in my 5gal bucket with my waterfall spray booth cause the water catches the paint and the fumes go to the bucket
@@PopArow4702 activated carbon cannot filter out these fumes. It can only filter out the particulates which will include the smell. You will still be breathing in everything that's actually toxic for you. That is why there is three types of filters the first of which being dust the second one being a particulate in the third one being a fume
My solution for spraying in my garage during the winter. My garage is insulated and heated, unless I have the side door, but it's to cold to do right now. Thank you Mr. Rex for the tip. Merry Christmas everyone.
What a great idea, I would have never thought that you could use this technique for using a spray booth if you can't vent to the outside. Thank you for this video and the information you provide
I use a box of activated charcoal at the exhaust of my paint booth, probably not as cheap as running an air purifier at the exhaust in the long run though, I might have to look into that!
It really is amazing how many non creative people actually exist, and I don't mean that in a bad way. The cost to buy anything these days is astronomical and being creative can save tons of money.
Cool deal!.. Has anyone ever used a rainbow vaccum cleaner it uses water as its filter I had one and used it to trap the paint fumes by evacuating out the fumes in my spray booth it worked really well too.. When the water got loaded up I would just dump it and be back up and spraying.
I tried this after seeing it on your channel last time you showed it. I don't think I had the holes big enough as the whole room filled with over spray I had a layer of blue dust in the bathroom too. I now know my holes were to small. If you only spray occasionally be careful as the water will go mouldy so empty it till needed. Thanks Rex. Jay from England 🇬🇧.
So glad I found this. Have been wanting to set up a booth I got but the closest window is a long way away from the area I can work. Was worried I would need to figure out a system to chain some vent fans to make sure it got out. Going to do this!
@@barbatosrex9473 awesome I will order some! Do you mind if I ask what kind of sealant you might recommend? I get handy as needed but try to go with recommendations. I have found my local shop will give me some that work but often more as short term hacks. Last sealant they recommended to me would erode the seal long term and increase my costs down the line.
I’ve been putting together a setup for airbrushing with water based acrylics in my basement; on a low budget so this video is so helpful!! Thank you for providing some great info!
Thank you Robert for sharing your bucket trick. I was very curious about how it was rigged. You’re definitely for and about the common everyday modeler. 👍👍
Wow, talk about timing. Not two hours ago I was searching through all your past videos to see if you had covered this topic after I saw it when you were doing the double spray booth yesterday. I went back 3 years and couldn't find anything. I was going to email you about it ... and then this popped up. Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. Take care. Look forward to the waterfall booth review.
Nice trick. I have a spot that’s better for me in the lower level of the house, but setting up by any of the windows won’t really work. This seems like a useful set up
If you want to use solvent based paint, you can make an inlay inside your blue bucket and fill it with Aquarius carbon filter pellets. Basically turning it in to a gasmask. It's probably not something that would pass a health/work safety inspection at a work place, but for hobby use it will work just fine.
Did you try something like that? I was thinking about something like that myself, but I have no idea how effective that would be/how thick the layer would have to be and all that. Face mask filters aren't very thick but the amount of air that passes through them compared to spray booth fan is wayyy less...
I just moved to Japan, and with that comes a smaller apartment and living space. I figured I would have to slow down and possibly put a hold on my airbrushing so as to not stink up my apartment. This trick, along with a waterfall should resolve those issues. Thank you so much!
I ALWAYS wanted to to know how to do that and What it Could do in enclosed area...or where 'wife' won't allow you to cut out the screen to vent out once window is opened.
Your timing could not be better. I have been trying to decide on a method of making a similar system. I will be making one in the next couple of weeks. thanks.
Very helpful video! Buying the bits tomorrow! I might put a couple of sheets of hepa filter over the end of the vent hose inside the bucket, seal it with a large rubber band, gives another level of filtration.
I would suggest to most of the comments about additional filter media that this system PUSHES air from the booth into the bucket, and the more media in the way the more blockage the air will have. A sucking fan at the bucket end would do better for adding more robust filtering techniques, but that would defeat the simplicity of this system. Great video!
I have my spray booth setup in a similar fashion. I switched form a bucket with holes like that to an old round humidifier I picked up for $2 at a garage sale. The wet filters grab everything and it has a slot for a charcoal filter though I seldom put them in.
Great idea, I really like it for the spray booth use, we had the same set up for our factory compressor discharge, it collected moisture and worked like a charm, I'm going to use this bucket idea in winter months when opening windows is not an option.
Thanks. I'm looking to start airbrushing soon and I've never done it before so I'm trying to get together everything I need before I start. Some people can make things sound so difficult to the point that puts people off but you've made this sound so simple. Thanks again.
Thanks for the Tip, I'm fairly new into miniature & model painting, and have mostly done it all by brush, I did get a affordable introductory air brush though have been reluctant to use it due to my enclosed living situation, This seem like the solution to a few of those hurdles that were of a concern. 👍
This is super useful, my setup is in my basement and there's no nearby window. I'm using acrylics for hobby painting and don't do tons at a time, I'll 100% be building one of these this week.
I will try in my spray booth. I wonder it you install the tube going below the water level and making the air pass thorugh the water . It will capture most the solvens odor, resin etc?
I just built one, only because it is too cold to vent out the storm door. I cut the charcoal filter to fit the entire lid then drilled 1" holes about 2" apart around outside edge of lid and 4 closer to the dryer vent coupler. I test sprayed some lacquer thinner. I can still smell the thinner but it is not as bad as no vent filter. Will have to see as time goes on.
How do you get the air to move through the tube into the bucket? I personally use a vacuum cleaner with the nozzle poking through the back of the booth with. A fine mesh cloth over the end to catch paint.
This is a nice setup I have tried a lot of different things to mask the sent an out of everything fabric sheets balled up along the tube some at each end alitte way in from each end just have to see how many you will need for different paints because you will get the count down for the paint type you are going to be using but what ever way work for you or anyone else is a good way also I am just telling you how I have found what works for me thank you an I hope that my idea help someone thank you my friend
I've seen that Ninjon ditches the hose altogether and just stacks a couple of furnace filters behind the opening to catch any residual spray that gets through the filter in the booth itself.
Thanks for the idea and the instructions, wondering how I was going to be able to use my equipment I just purchased in the colder months here in Ontario Canada. My tool room in our basement doesn't have a window to use for venting the airbrush paint booth. Hoping I wasn't going to have to have a hole drilled into the foundation. Using a setup like yours will definitely work.
Been thinking about a solution like this. Want to see if I can find something that will filter the air sufficiently without needing the layer of water. Considering just going with several layers of filter material loosely packed in the bucket.
Thank you. You just saved me at least £500. WIll definitely try this as I live in rented accommodation and the living room where I have my modelling bench as no windows at all
Thanks for sharing your hacks much appreciate it since I am in a little room with no windows also and as for adding a little bit of water to the bucket I was thinking also for the scent factor perhaps a couple of tablespoons of Fabuloso. Once again thank you for this video. 👍
I wonder if you could do a bucket a little larger than the hose , and do a layer system like a couple of layers of the filter where the hose goes in and then fill with the loose fish tank carbon thats used in the water diltes and at the bottom another couple layers of the filter and it vent though the bottom of the bucket , the overspray would be going through 4 total filters plus the one in the booth and then the carbon would potentially absorb most if not all the fumes/ smell depending how much you had sandwiched between the filters
I'm curious how this would work around a VOC meter. I haven't found any great evidence online for ways to keep VOC spraying completely indoors, but water filtration sounds like the best idea so far. Odor/smell isn't a good enough indicator on safety.
I tried to make a water filter with an old bathroom fan impeller but although it was strong for a bbathroom fan, it was not sufficient to pull any real vacuum in the bucket. I'm interested to see how you did it
Great video… even though I have a window next to my booth, I like this so I don’t have to open and close it all the time…Only thing you didn’t mention is what to look for to change the water out. I started to get the water fall style booth…but it’s so much easier with the bucket in my opinion…
I built a daisy chain version where I have the air first going into one bucket with water and then from there it goes into a 2nd bucket with some activated charcoal filters around the exhaust.
Reading all the comments, I hope nobody gets harmed. It looks like too many assume that this would help when working with toxic fumes as well. I'm not an expert but I'm sure that this won't be enougg for toxic stuff. You are mentioning activated carbon filter but it's not as easy as it sounds. I hope people will do more research when handling toxic stuff.
I have been thinking about using something like a charcoal filter on the lid. Just something to catch the fumes of non-acrylic paints. Any thoughts on that?
This is awesome! a few friends have suggested I check this video out and it did not disappoint! The only question I have is about the placement of the exhaust hose. Does it go directly into the water at the bottom of the bucket or just as far into the bucket as possible? Bryan
Hi buddy ive just ordered my self a bucket and im going to make this as my set up is in my attic ,so thank for this very useful bit of kit ,from little old me here in england 😅
This is great! I'm going to add some water to my shop vac to accomplish the same effect for my rattle can booth. Is there anything I should know before I do this?
I live in a apartment that doesn't have a vent for our Dryer.. And I bought a set up that works the same way.. And it does great to catch all the lent .
Could I use this for enamels like A.K. interactive streaking grime. Or for Tamiya clears. Or Vallejo metal color. Do I need to wear a ventilator at the same time, or vent the room out?
I would still use a good quality breathing protector (if that is the correct term for it). You will always have some spray bouncing back from the object in your direction.
Will try this. I have a room with a perfect perch to vent, problem is it's the garage, it has no air conditioning, and I live in the south, and I need to stand the whole time. So it was torture just learning the ins and outs of airbrushing. I exclusively only use acrylics and don't plan on using lacquers or enamels.
This might be a saving grace for the setup I’m trying to get going for myself… Since I have a fire escape window with a gate it’s been tough finding a convenient way to get a booth that I can fit it but this though? Might be trying this asap thanks alot for not just this but what you’ve been doing thus far , it’s greatly appreciated
Do you notice a static charge when spraying in a plastic booth? Does it tend to make paint jobs collect more debris? I want to get a booth, but the metal types are very expensive.
Now, you have come up with the solution I need, so I can make my painting in-doors a lot easier, ( don't have a garage or shed, so I am in the spare bedroom) as I would like to use some of the acrylic lacquers, again, many thanks for this idea, I would like to wish yoh and your family all the very best wishes for the upcoming holiday season, many thanks from a Kiwi ( New Zealander) living in Australia 👍👍👍
What material are you using to seal the hole in the lid? I can't find anything other than HDPE buckets and lids, and apparently, no caulk in the world sticks properly to HDPE. I'd be concerned that as the hose flexes/moves, it will pull the caulk away from the lid and create an unfiltered outlet.
I’m a little confused. At the beginning you said to put the hose as far down as possible. Later on you said, “put the hose so that it sort of hits the water”. Maybe it’s me ….but do you put the hose just ABOVE the water? Or IN the water? Thanks for doing this video. I really need something like this.
@@barbatosrex9473Thank you try to keep to just spraying water based paints inside . And when it’s 50 our so will use lacquer paints in the garage. Want to get away from the rattle cans and use my airbrush way more on car body’s. Think I like Splash paints but not easy to get. What paint do you like for cars. I love Tamiya gran Prix cars the most. Been building the Salvinos NASCAR models as well. Look forward to watching your videos.
Splash are great auto paints. That said I use all types of paints for my cars, I just pick the color I like. I do stick with lacquer or enamels. My Mecha Empire paint line is based off of car model paints
This isn’t much different than an airbrush cleaning pot, only on a larger scale
How is the diameter of the hose?
Standard size on most spray booths on ebay
or a bong
@@RickeyWholaverfor that particular hose probably 4 inches
@@vasili1207 HAHAHA!
Just drilled a hole through a brick wall yesterday now this vid comes out 😂
I've constructed something similar to this. You can purchase Hepa fabric material to screen off fine particulates, but when it comes to white spirits (varsol/ alkyd paint thinner), lacquer thinner, acetone, xylene or anything that fries brain cells, vent outside. If you have a living bird in a cage nearby, you may learn a very sad lesson the hard way. If it's no good for our feathered friends, it's not good for us either. I ONLY use this indoor method with water-based acrylics and Isopropyl alcohol as a thinner and cleaner.
The saying "canary in the coal mine" exists for a reason!
I blow mine through a box of activated charcoal pellets for fish tanks, works really well for cutting down the odors and is pretty cheap in bulk. Then I just burn the charcoal in my fireplace near the end of winter which is about when it starts to get exhausted anyway. A few kgs of the stuff at a time goes a long way, especially if you seal the box between uses.
Alcohol is one of the worst things we can breathe as modelers.
I run a similar setup to this for laquers (I spray very little in 1/72 scale mostly) and I pop a window for fresh air. Regardless of what medium I'm using, you better believe I'm properly masked up. Hope you are as well. Alcohol based acrylic is vicious.
Thats a you problem my guy.
What perfect timing for those of us in the north without a window. I saw the bucket on your last video and was about to ask about it. Then saw this video come up, so thank you for sharing!
This is genius I just moved into a new tiny apartment and didn't have proper ventilation to paint my model kits now all you got to do is make a quick stop to home Depot or whatever and then find some filter foam dope ideas thanks for sharing
Very cool idea.
I see multiple asks about resin fumes from printers, spray paints, etc. This method is only safe for (1) particulates (like dried paint droplets) or (2) water-soluble vapours. Since resin and solvent fumes (etc) are neither, they will pass through or over the water and back out the holes into your room.
Also, running the hose into the water, as some have asked, will make it more effective as a filter but it will cause more back pressure and your fan won't perform as well, so that's your trade-off.🤔
If anyone is asking if this would work for resin prints they really shouldn't have a resin printer those are the same people that get water wash resin and think it's safe to rinse down the sink drain lol
@@dusty3033 Well, you know the old saying...when someone asks a question to better themselves, mock them relentlessly. 😐
@zandarrthegreat6790 um it's not a mock it's a thing like do research before buying and know all the hazards it's like if you live in an apartment and don't use air filters and such and it gets into the air ducts and the voc travel thru the air system it will get into everyone's rooms and so Irresponsible for something like that to happen
I,m going to go with two buckets, water from bottom, with a few UV strips.
Oxygen prevents photo reactive resin from reacting. Lots of little bubbles should help.
And then a second bucket fitted to the top, full of activated carbon, and then outside.
I got pet birds so I have to be extra careful.
@@dusty3033 But asking this question is part of their research. They are reaching out to people that may know.
I have been using this for 8 months after your video on it. I spray all types of paint and 2k clears… It works well!!!
Thank You!!
You're welcome buddy
Thanks!
Anytime my friend 👍
this is pretty cool, basically like those waterfall booths, both are probably fine for acrylics but for lacquers and such its not just about evacuating overspray, but the VOCs too, which this will not do, especially dangerous if youre using it indoors.
Any advice on something like this for enamels or lacquers?
@@Lifeinerinn you could create the same setup as this but use a real active coal filter instead of this foam filter. If it works in a protective mask than it should theoretically work with this too.
@@Lifeinerinn a strong exhaust fan vented to outside is the only thing I would use for enamel and lacquers. Theres some nasty stuff in a lot of model paints, especially lacquers, really not worth the exposure risk to half ass the ventilation, especially if you paint kits with any significant frequency. VOCs can be carcinogenic or at least cause irreversible tissue damage. I personally use one of those explosion proof 10 exhaust fans that moves like 1942 cfm. It's overkill but nothing escapes my booth and it's peace of mind.
@@Lifeinerinn enamels and lacquers have lots of solvents and other nasty VOC-producing products in them, usually much more than most acrylic-based products. While an active carbon filters, HEPA filters and a NIOSH P100 protective mask might work for acrylics ona moderate period of time, VOCs eventually need to go somewhere outside to mitigate health risks. I would follow _jovian's advice and invest in a proper ventilation system for safety, especially if you've got other people living in your house.
Well considering every single one of those paint booths state "not for use with solvent based paints" just using them with lacquers or enamels is dangerous itself. They don't come with explosion proof fans. Hence why they're so cheap.
One of the best tips ever. My modeling room is in my basement and I have no windows. So I have had to use all acrylic or hope the weather was good so I could spray outside.
Look in to using a inline duct charcoal filter. They are often used in indoor plant/pot growing setups and works very well.
Yes indeed. I can spray Alclad in my apartment and not stink the place up using one. Not horribly expensive and last a really long time. Also take up a bit less space than a 5 gallon bucket. But the bucket method DOES work!
I used the charcoal filter exhaust system for my grow tent and it does work I now use it in my 5gal bucket with my waterfall spray booth cause the water catches the paint and the fumes go to the bucket
@@PopArow4702 activated carbon cannot filter out these fumes. It can only filter out the particulates which will include the smell. You will still be breathing in everything that's actually toxic for you. That is why there is three types of filters the first of which being dust the second one being a particulate in the third one being a fume
Smell is the last and least relevant thing to worry about. This leaves the VOCs in your air, your lungs, your pets’ lungs.
My solution for spraying in my garage during the winter. My garage is insulated and heated, unless I have the side door, but it's to cold to do right now. Thank you Mr. Rex for the tip.
Merry Christmas everyone.
What a great idea, I would have never thought that you could use this technique for using a spray booth if you can't vent to the outside. Thank you for this video and the information you provide
Thanks for showing the bucket filter. I'm in a basement and I'll be making one.
In addition to this, you can also run an air purifier to pick up residual contaminants and it also helps clear up dust in the paint area.
Yes, great advice
I use a box of activated charcoal at the exhaust of my paint booth, probably not as cheap as running an air purifier at the exhaust in the long run though, I might have to look into that!
This is so smart!
I have no idea why something like this has never crossed my mind.
It really is amazing how many non creative people actually exist, and I don't mean that in a bad way. The cost to buy anything these days is astronomical and being creative can save tons of money.
I use Carbon Filters
Cool deal!.. Has anyone ever used a rainbow vaccum cleaner it uses water as its filter I had one and used it to trap the paint fumes by evacuating out the fumes in my spray booth it worked really well too.. When the water got loaded up I would just dump it and be back up and spraying.
I tried this after seeing it on your channel last time you showed it. I don't think I had the holes big enough as the whole room filled with over spray I had a layer of blue dust in the bathroom too. I now know my holes were to small. If you only spray occasionally be careful as the water will go mouldy so empty it till needed. Thanks Rex. Jay from England 🇬🇧.
So essentially. You have small holes.
This is a great cheep alternative for those who don’t have a window and it works great
So glad I found this. Have been wanting to set up a booth I got but the closest window is a long way away from the area I can work. Was worried I would need to figure out a system to chain some vent fans to make sure it got out. Going to do this!
I'd like to mention you should go with a carbon filter for the top of the bucket to further trap smells
@@barbatosrex9473 awesome I will order some! Do you mind if I ask what kind of sealant you might recommend? I get handy as needed but try to go with recommendations. I have found my local shop will give me some that work but often more as short term hacks. Last sealant they recommended to me would erode the seal long term and increase my costs down the line.
I’ve been putting together a setup for airbrushing with water based acrylics in my basement; on a low budget so this video is so helpful!! Thank you for providing some great info!
Nice! I didn’t want to get a booth because I don’t really have a spot next to a window but this makes me want to get a booth!
And spraying outside is so hard with wind or temperature constantly being under 40. This is exciting
Thank you Robert for sharing your bucket trick. I was very curious about how it was rigged. You’re definitely for and about the common everyday modeler. 👍👍
Wow, talk about timing. Not two hours ago I was searching through all your past videos to see if you had covered this topic after I saw it when you were doing the double spray booth yesterday. I went back 3 years and couldn't find anything. I was going to email you about it ... and then this popped up. Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. Take care. Look forward to the waterfall booth review.
I was literally doing this yesterday lol
Nice trick. I have a spot that’s better for me in the lower level of the house, but setting up by any of the windows won’t really work. This seems like a useful set up
If you want to use solvent based paint, you can make an inlay inside your blue bucket and fill it with Aquarius carbon filter pellets. Basically turning it in to a gasmask. It's probably not something that would pass a health/work safety inspection at a work place, but for hobby use it will work just fine.
Did you try something like that? I was thinking about something like that myself, but I have no idea how effective that would be/how thick the layer would have to be and all that. Face mask filters aren't very thick but the amount of air that passes through them compared to spray booth fan is wayyy less...
This is great advice as we go into the winter months here in the Northeast
I just moved to Japan, and with that comes a smaller apartment and living space. I figured I would have to slow down and possibly put a hold on my airbrushing so as to not stink up my apartment. This trick, along with a waterfall should resolve those issues. Thank you so much!
Oh yeah, the Waterfall Spray Booth is just right for hobbyist like you
Thanks for the information. I made on of these and used shredded newspaper. I like the water concept. Going to set my as you demonstrated.
Also check out my latest video on my ways to do this
I ALWAYS wanted to to know how to do that and What it Could do in enclosed area...or where 'wife' won't allow you to cut out the screen to vent out once window is opened.
Your timing could not be better. I have been trying to decide on a method of making a similar system. I will be making one in the next couple of weeks. thanks.
Pretty ingenious! I vent out of a window, but I can see an advantage to this in the depths of winter.
Very helpful video! Buying the bits tomorrow! I might put a couple of sheets of hepa filter over the end of the vent hose inside the bucket, seal it with a large rubber band, gives another level of filtration.
I would suggest to most of the comments about additional filter media that this system PUSHES air from the booth into the bucket, and the more media in the way the more blockage the air will have. A sucking fan at the bucket end would do better for adding more robust filtering techniques, but that would defeat the simplicity of this system. Great video!
I have my spray booth setup in a similar fashion. I switched form a bucket with holes like that to an old round humidifier I picked up for $2 at a garage sale. The wet filters grab everything and it has a slot for a charcoal filter though I seldom put them in.
Nice!
I'm a total beginner and this is gold for me! I have the same basement issue, so I'm surely try this. Thank you and thanx to your dad :D
I just watched your last video and was asking this question. Thanks!
you don`t no how much money you have just saved me. your a star.👍
This information is very useful for those of without access to a window - thank you for sharing.
Great idea, I really like it for the spray booth use, we had the same set up for our factory compressor discharge, it collected moisture and worked like a charm, I'm going to use this bucket idea in winter months when opening windows is not an option.
So a water bong for the air brush, nice!
multi-functioning
The hose has to be above the water, not bubbling air through it.
Oh interesting. Why would we need the water in it then? I thought we were using the water as a sort of filer. @@stevenpuderbaugh821
Got it, so what is the reason for the water then? Maybe I missed it in the vid.
@@stevenpuderbaugh821
Thanks. I'm looking to start airbrushing soon and I've never done it before so I'm trying to get together everything I need before I start. Some people can make things sound so difficult to the point that puts people off but you've made this sound so simple. Thanks again.
Thanks for the Tip, I'm fairly new into miniature & model painting, and have mostly done it all by brush, I did get a affordable introductory air brush though have been reluctant to use it due to my enclosed living situation, This seem like the solution to a few of those hurdles that were of a concern. 👍
Really cool setup, I use nontoxic paints so I just go respirator, box fan and furnace filter, but if I ever upgrade I'll probably do this.
This is super useful, my setup is in my basement and there's no nearby window. I'm using acrylics for hobby painting and don't do tons at a time, I'll 100% be building one of these this week.
Thank you!!! Will be using this hack!! My bench is in front of a window. Lol so no room to vent a future purchase spray booth.
Good luck my friend
I will try in my spray booth. I wonder it you install the tube going below the water level and making the air pass thorugh the water . It will capture most the solvens odor, resin etc?
Do not put the hose in the water. Put it about 3 to 5 inches above the water
I just built one, only because it is too cold to vent out the storm door. I cut the charcoal filter to fit the entire lid then drilled 1" holes about 2" apart around outside edge of lid and 4 closer to the dryer vent coupler. I test sprayed some lacquer thinner. I can still smell the thinner but it is not as bad as no vent filter. Will have to see as time goes on.
How do you get the air to move through the tube into the bucket? I personally use a vacuum cleaner with the nozzle poking through the back of the booth with. A fine mesh cloth over the end to catch paint.
I've only done this with store bought spray booths so they already have an exhaust fan
This is a nice setup I have tried a lot of different things to mask the sent an out of everything fabric sheets balled up along the tube some at each end alitte way in from each end just have to see how many you will need for different paints because you will get the count down for the paint type you are going to be using but what ever way work for you or anyone else is a good way also I am just telling you how I have found what works for me thank you an I hope that my idea help someone thank you my friend
How do you empty the bucket? And how often? Neat project…thanks
Just pop the lid and flush it. Replace it every few weeks
It's like a bong! Thank you for explaining it. I have been looking for this explanation so I can build a bigger version.
Excellent idea. I will try myself since my bench has no windows and it’s a real job to extend my 5 meter hose to the nearest window.
Just bought a new spray booth (on your recommendation) and have iffy window access so this is timed perfectly.
I've seen that Ninjon ditches the hose altogether and just stacks a couple of furnace filters behind the opening to catch any residual spray that gets through the filter in the booth itself.
Another great idea
Thanks for the idea and the instructions, wondering how I was going to be able to use my equipment I just purchased in the colder months here in Ontario Canada. My tool room in our basement doesn't have a window to use for venting the airbrush paint booth. Hoping I wasn't going to have to have a hole drilled into the foundation. Using a setup like yours will definitely work.
Been thinking about a solution like this. Want to see if I can find something that will filter the air sufficiently without needing the layer of water. Considering just going with several layers of filter material loosely packed in the bucket.
I always thought their was a better way to filter the vent air. Now you have shown me how.
Thank you. You just saved me at least £500. WIll definitely try this as I live in rented accommodation and the living room where I have my modelling bench as no windows at all
Thanks for sharing your hacks much appreciate it since I am in a little room with no windows also and as for adding a little bit of water to the bucket I was thinking also for the scent factor perhaps a couple of tablespoons of Fabuloso. Once again thank you for this video. 👍
Great video for diy inexpensive over spray trap. Simple and effective. Thanks.
I have a window, but I live in MN. I may make one of these to use in the winter.
I wonder if you could do a bucket a little larger than the hose , and do a layer system like a couple of layers of the filter where the hose goes in and then fill with the loose fish tank carbon thats used in the water diltes and at the bottom another couple layers of the filter and it vent though the bottom of the bucket , the overspray would be going through 4 total filters plus the one in the booth and then the carbon would potentially absorb most if not all the fumes/ smell depending how much you had sandwiched between the filters
Adding a heavy duty liner makes cleanup easier (should the water dry up)
I've been doing this for about 3 years now, works great.
I'm curious how this would work around a VOC meter. I haven't found any great evidence online for ways to keep VOC spraying completely indoors, but water filtration sounds like the best idea so far. Odor/smell isn't a good enough indicator on safety.
I tried to make a water filter with an old bathroom fan impeller but although it was strong for a bbathroom fan, it was not sufficient to pull any real vacuum in the bucket. I'm interested to see how you did it
Great video… even though I have a window next to my booth, I like this so I don’t have to open and close it all the time…Only thing you didn’t mention is what to look for to change the water out. I started to get the water fall style booth…but it’s so much easier with the bucket in my opinion…
I built a daisy chain version where I have the air first going into one bucket with water and then from there it goes into a 2nd bucket with some activated charcoal filters around the exhaust.
Great idea
That carbon needs swapped out every week or so even if you don't use it, btw.
@@ninjatango That's fine as I made it so the access to the 2nd bucket is easier by routing the intake to the side of the bucket near the bottom.
Cool trick! Gonna give it a try
Reading all the comments, I hope nobody gets harmed. It looks like too many assume that this would help when working with toxic fumes as well.
I'm not an expert but I'm sure that this won't be enougg for toxic stuff.
You are mentioning activated carbon filter but it's not as easy as it sounds. I hope people will do more research when handling toxic stuff.
Question: do I need to dump water after each usage? Thank you for this tip.
Thanks! I moved into a highrise and the windows dont open. Now I can spray inside without having to haul all my stuff downstairs to separate rooms.
Thanks for this. I was looking for a reasonable, alternative solution for indoor venting and this will work for my purposes. Cheers from Canada
is also a good idea for laser cutter too. add the vent out to out side from the bucket,
I have been thinking about using something like a charcoal filter on the lid. Just something to catch the fumes of non-acrylic paints. Any thoughts on that?
For sure, I recently showed the carbon filters in an updated video
Particulate is the word you're looking for lol. Thank you for this video it just reassured every idea I had on building mine.
Wonderful video!... But where is the Amazon link for that drain plug you said you would give us?
Im going down to lowes!
I switched to acrylics years ago and l've never had a ventilation system. This seems like a fatanastic idea to use. Thanks
Dish detergent will loosen the water tension, so it'll draw more paint into the water.
This is awesome! a few friends have suggested I check this video out and it did not disappoint! The only question I have is about the placement of the exhaust hose. Does it go directly into the water at the bottom of the bucket or just as far into the bucket as possible? Bryan
Thats..actually really smart
Hi buddy ive just ordered my self a bucket and im going to make this as my set up is in my attic ,so thank for this very useful bit of kit ,from little old me here in england 😅
Wonder if this would also work for a 3d printer or laser engraver/cutter
This is great! I'm going to add some water to my shop vac to accomplish the same effect for my rattle can booth. Is there anything I should know before I do this?
This is pretty clever! I was wondering how the bucket would capture the odors after watching the large spray booth video from the other day.
Odors aren't the concern.
You rock! I love models so glad I found your channel.
Models are awesome, great hobby. Welcome to the channel
I live in a apartment that doesn't have a vent for our Dryer.. And I bought a set up that works the same way.. And it does great to catch all the lent .
Do you have a link to what you're using? I'd like to compare
Could I use this for enamels like A.K. interactive streaking grime. Or for Tamiya clears. Or Vallejo metal color. Do I need to wear a ventilator at the same time, or vent the room out?
This works with all paints
I would still use a good quality breathing protector (if that is the correct term for it). You will always have some spray bouncing back from the object in your direction.
@marconrustNL for sure, I use a Rhino brand respirator when airbrushing
Will try this. I have a room with a perfect perch to vent, problem is it's the garage, it has no air conditioning, and I live in the south, and I need to stand the whole time. So it was torture just learning the ins and outs of airbrushing. I exclusively only use acrylics and don't plan on using lacquers or enamels.
This might be a saving grace for the setup I’m trying to get going for myself… Since I have a fire escape window with a gate it’s been tough finding a convenient way to get a booth that I can fit it but this though? Might be trying this asap thanks alot for not just this but what you’ve been doing thus far , it’s greatly appreciated
Just bought a similar airbrush booth. Might have to do this.
Thanks for sharing this. I just set my booth up this morning to coat some 3D prints.
Do you notice a static charge when spraying in a plastic booth? Does it tend to make paint jobs collect more debris? I want to get a booth, but the metal types are very expensive.
Now, you have come up with the solution I need, so I can make my painting in-doors a lot easier, ( don't have a garage or shed, so I am in the spare bedroom) as I would like to use some of the acrylic lacquers, again, many thanks for this idea, I would like to wish yoh and your family all the very best wishes for the upcoming holiday season, many thanks from a Kiwi ( New Zealander) living in Australia 👍👍👍
What material are you using to seal the hole in the lid? I can't find anything other than HDPE buckets and lids, and apparently, no caulk in the world sticks properly to HDPE. I'd be concerned that as the hose flexes/moves, it will pull the caulk away from the lid and create an unfiltered outlet.
This removes the pigments but not the volatile compounds
I’m a little confused. At the beginning you said to put the hose as far down as possible. Later on you said, “put the hose so that it sort of hits the water”. Maybe it’s me ….but do you put the hose just ABOVE the water? Or IN the water? Thanks for doing this video. I really need something like this.
How long can you leave the detergent water in the bucket for?
You should replace the water every few weeks
Going to build mine as soon as possible,How big is the center hole?,thank you so much
I just traced the hose that comes with the booth
@@barbatosrex9473Thank you try to keep to just spraying water based paints inside . And when it’s 50 our so will use lacquer paints in the garage. Want to get away from the rattle cans and use my airbrush way more on car body’s. Think I like Splash paints but not easy to get. What paint do you like for cars. I love Tamiya gran Prix cars the most. Been building the Salvinos NASCAR models as well. Look forward to watching your videos.
Splash are great auto paints. That said I use all types of paints for my cars, I just pick the color I like. I do stick with lacquer or enamels. My Mecha Empire paint line is based off of car model paints
@@barbatosrex9473 Goy every thing I need hope to have it done this weekend.
Curious why you didnt put your hose down further when you said several times you should put it just above the water? Yours was only in a inch or so?