Update: E3 Comparison video is live! ua-cam.com/video/pKoT0fW8Aa4/v-deo.html Dying Light released in 2015* not 2016. "The Following" expansion release in 2016. Also, the "ray tracing" options are not nvidia specific as I incorrectly noted here. It appears DLSS is the only nvidia specific feature this time around.
I feel as the developers wanted the game to be more mainstream and new player friendly so they toned down on the grittiness of the atmosphere. The original dying light had me sweating.
@@brettalexander220 understandable though, it is necessary to keep the company alive and kicking. You know, cant create without breads. But to push it too far and forget about creativity is a deadly plague which many big gaming developing companies have fallen ill in.
But that was the charm of Dying Light to begin with, toning it down kinda turned this into a Dead Rising type of game no more the terrifying real-life looking zombie apocalypse experience, imo they kinda shot themselves in the foot by doing that, the game lost its iconic charm to me, if i want a casual noob friendly zombie killing game i go for L4D2 ir something, if i want a zombie apocalypse "simulator" i go for DL1, DL2 to me kinda doesn't fit in either of those which is a shame, honestly part of DL that i loved was it had a trash story bad characters and uninteresting quests overall, but the gameplay and atmosphere made up for it, going in a volatile infested tunnel even during the day when you were "safe" sent chills down the spine, not to mention the first time you deal with the screamer or every single time you do because those things are unsettling every time XD, DL2 kinda lost a big chunk of what made it DL to begin with
well one way it would be for given is bc u have been pumped up with drugs that make u stronger and more resilient in DL2 "its said in the dialogue few times" but ye, the nights in DL2 are bit too bright in my opinion and less scary compared to DL1. in DL1 the nights rly where scary and i rarely wanted to stay outside when the night fell but in DL2 u rarely care if its night or day "all tho volatiles are now the pure nightmare when u come across them, like trying to fight a Rhino with a fly swatter"
@@braxtonvillagran2664 Not really the game is just much easier due to the lack of volitiles at night and normal zombies in the day, and the chase system is much less terrifying
I feel like DL1 had this "vibe" that really captivated me, that DL2 just doesn't have. I think I enjoyed the "loneliness" I felt in the first one with how rare it was to find other humans around, along with the fear factor of the large amounts of zombies that were roaming around. The orange glow of the sunsets, the creepy atmosphere. The distant echoes of zombies screaming resonating through the quiet city. The ambient, slightly ominous music... It kind of felt like a dream sometimes.
That’s another thing i can say I really miss from the first game. The massive hoards you’d occasionally run into. It may have something to do with this game taking place 15 or so years ahead of the first and there aren’t as many zombies around anymore but I’m not sure. I agree.
For me it's more about the colors and effects. DL1 offered a very paricular atmosphere, the sunset for example used very strong orange colors fading down into an obscur red, making it look like it's the end of the world. The night was filled with a lot of different tones of grey, the interiors full of strong dark colors, everything to remind you that death was slowly taking over the city.
@@victorjozek5384 That's exactly what contributes to that feeling I'm talking about, and you put it very well. Also the lack of people and the large amount of zombies roaming around everywhere. Dying Light 2 doesn't have that. It's enjoyable but it doesn't have what made Dying Light "special" i guess
@@prospect8245 one thing i miss from one is that detail that was in houses and bushiness. stuff just left like people vanished. I loved looking at the books on shelves and stuff like that. I get and understand that over 15 years everything would be looted for any useful stuff. just miss looking over the houses and stuff.
Many little improvements but also quite a few steps backwards. My biggest pet peeve is the melee combat, the way the weapons just seem to go straight through the enemies whereas in the first one it truly felt like you were hitting actual objects.
That was probably the first thing I noticed. In the original when I missed a swing it was because I had improper spacing, or I swung vertical as they went sideways. In the second one I could SWEAR I'm hitting them and sometimes my swings will simply not register as a hit. Even more infuriating when you're trying to swing at one that's charging at you only for it to miss completely resulting in you getting grabbed while everything in a 3 mile radius wails on you.
I agree with you about the lighting. In DL 1 the first time i was stuck outside during the night was the first time a game legitimately scared me and i refused to be stuck outside at night after that for a long time. From the gameplay you show you can still see most everything during the night, and being able to plan where to go kinda ruins the "run for your life" feel for me.
I’m curious if this can be fixed in the settings. In Days Gone, for example it starts with a default brightness of 5, which makes night time especially look washed out and bright. Moving this down to 2 made colors during the day, and darkness at night, pop a lot more significantly. I’m curious if these games default to a higher brightness for less technical casual players who might not think to go in and change them, giving them a less intimidating night time experience. I guess we’ll find out.
@@trippybruh1592 honestly, I only grew a pair lately, but still lock picking is a big no no at night on ground level, now I'm just looking at that dam clock waiting for dl2 to drop at 12 at night, it's like if you don't have a job or kids your winning, I have both 😔 I've been screwed one this one but am I going to get a cheeky hour in ? hell ya I am.
I had the exact same feeling. I loved being scared of the night gameplay and I remember when I finally felt like I was strong enough to take it on, I geared up and prepped my run. What a feeling.
@@fazeilrugio7014 I wonder how many people dropped the game because it was so terrifying. I for one avoided nights as much as possible besides the story requirements
@@fazeilrugio7014 I appreciate the changes in the new game. If it was exactly the same as the first game why wouldn't I just keep playing the first game? The new combat is a bit worse though compared to dl1.
@@jesusking3488 DL2 feels like Mirror's Edge in a zombie apocalypse. I don't like how they removed camouflaging and replaced the danger of the night with a timer... And btw, why would they remove guns? To balance all the factions? Guns in DL1 were useful, but you were risking attracting more zombies and using them at night was suicide, so Why'd they take them away?
Dying light 1 had the best sound design imo. Your movements sounded like they had weight to them, unlike DL2 where everything is so unnaturally quiet and soft.
That could be explained away with Aiden being a pilgrim. They travel alone through dangerous places, so being quiet is their specialty. Ninja outfit muffled Kyle's noises as well
@@newbie2k477 it isn't, i'm assuming you are dealing with nostalgia. Because you used to enjoy games more years ago doesn't mean the old ones are better
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830 I also thought it was nostalgia, but when I watched this film, I came to the conclusion that it was just a better game. The combat system, the sounds, and the style all contributed to an amazing experience. Just all the things that sounded out in the first game are muffled here. And some nonsensical things like armor, weapon upgrades are more developed, and that's not what the first game was about to me. Dying light 2 just seems empty to me, maybe that will change with a few fixes and some DLC. I also played the dying light 1 not so long ago, because about a year ago, and I finished it 3 times so I think I can say something about that.
Dying Light 1 is one of the rare games which made me butt clench. Hearing the Volatile's heavy breathing and their heavy quick footsteps while behind you was crazy.
The first Dying light still holds a special place in my heart. The level of immersion, photorealism, day and night cycle, intensity, character development as the story progressed and high replay ability. Still roaming the streets at night with the violatiles lol.
I really liked the of light on everything in the first game, it's like you are constantly at the dusk of humankind To me, DL is gloomy, not beautiful in a tradional way with a lot of colors and everything ^^
@Christian Gormley Mods exist, there's already reshades and I'm sure there will be more. People can express their displeasures about aspects of games.
At first impressions it seems like Dying Light 2 steps away a little bit from the immersion and genuinly scary atmosphere compared to the original. I noticed this especially in the sound design.
@unresfriado i loved the floaty parkour more than parkour in dying light 1. also after watching a few gameplay of dying light 2 you wouldnt even notice the parkour is floaty
I think that the things that bother me the most are: - the absence of wind sounds while running of rooftops. - the cool x-ray effect that you would get when you broke a zombie's bone. - the ability to perform a special takedown when you broke a zombie's bone (which was one of the coolest things in the first game IMO). - and the ability to throw weapons, i just don't get why they's get rid of it, it was a lot of fun to be able to throw you weapons. I really do hope that these features get added at some point in the future, cause they were some of the most satisfying things in the first game for me.
@@thephantomparadox6572 I honestly never used this feature that much, but... Why should you remove it???? Let people enjoy it, I can easily understand having fun with it
Dying Light 1 had that "the world is ending" type of vibe, the streets where filled with Zombies making it difficult to travel, the slums felt Closter phobic making any encounter with infect a bit more scary, and the nights feel like hell trying to navigate while trying not to tore apart by Volatiles. Dying light felt like the world was falling apart around you. Dying light 2 feels like a post-post apocalypses, the virus has had a decade and a half to settle in and many people have figured out what works and what doesn't.
@@A42yearoldARAB can be easily fixed. there is an option to turn down the sharpness (he is at max) thats why it looks so cartoony. also you can reduce the saturation aswell.
Dying light 1 zombies were much scarier and the overall game felt like a survival game dying light 2 feels more like a rpg .it's weird still fun but different
The sound design during dl1 chases still gives me chills every time it really does feel as though you’re one mistake away from death which is both exhilarating and horrifying 😅
In the first game everytime I was being chased anytime I messed up any action I would start to freak out irl, definitely the most panicked a horror game has made me
@@Whiteobamas same lol I’ve actually been playing dl1 recently after I got it on sale with some of the dlc (I’m way too late I know but it’s such a good game I don’t care) already excited for dl2 and I haven’t even finished dl1 yet!
@@blackoutlol2857 barely got any into dl2 and I got banned from playstation for 7 days and can't play since a friend is using my account as their home playstation
i got too used too it. i was on nightmare mode no HUD and i literally just killed most of them. even i would run for the whole night. volatiles are more harder in dl2.
having far less enemies in the streets at daytime is such an odd choice and makes me confused on what the developers were thinking. the big reason to why parkour is so valuable not only to the player but to all the other survivors is because of how the streets were packed with zombies all the time and it a layer of difficulty and tension, DL2 just feels so much more artificial in alot of weird ways that pull me out of the game and never really has that natural immersive quality that the first game did
I've played Dying Light 1 through a few times now, I absolutely love the game. One of my favourites. I'm really Enjoying 2. But I feel like Dying Light 2 feels less like a sequel (so far) and more like a whole different game with DL1 as its inspiration.
IKR I don’t why but, I feel the exact same way. I’m enjoying DL2 but something about it feels so cartoony compared to the serious tone of the first game. The game is certainly not bad but, it doesn’t feel like a sequel to DL1.
It’s an entirely new setting based on the same universe. It honestly feels more like medieval fantasy which I personally like but understand why people don’t.
@@tofferooni4972 I think that’s the main issue with the game. It feels so different from the first thematically. Obviously people want a new setting with a new map and story with improvements to gameplay but, imo it strays away from what made DL1 so special for me in the first game. The map is really dope in DL2 but, the colors, music, hud and the way the characters look is so much more cartoony/fantasy like. It’s not bad but, it’s a shift in tone from what I was expecting in a sequel. If you look at early e3 demos of DL2 you see how much better the colors pallet is and tone. Those demos felt much more like an appropriate sequel than what we have now.
@@Christian-lw5vw Yup. Optics and combat are way more unrealistic and less gruesome. It´s more like an arcade game where DL1 had that feeling of a realistic zombie apocalypse. Weapons packed a punch and felt "heavy" because of the awesome ragdoll effects present at any time. Just compare the "Kick" in both games. In DL1 enemy bodies react accordingly and physically correct depending on where and when you kick them. In DL2 every zombie reacts with the exact same lame canned animation and you can´t just kick them to stumble and trip over another corpse etc. It´s ridiculous.
yes, zombies would often trip and fall in various funny ways in the first game. In Dying Light 2 they move very janky and fall standing for a second before starting to ragdoll
I really like the 2nd one, and I don't know which game I like better overall. However, I don't think any game will beat the sheer terror of a night chase in the first game
ya im STILL avoiding the night because i of how hard it is for me to get over that XD 2 solved most of my problems and hell im feeling like its risks are worth it
I have noticed that Dying Light 2 has an expanded audio pool which reflects real world events: during the night, you can clearly hear roars and screams of the survivors being targeted by monsters, and if you move in the general direction of these sounds, you actually find them.
It seems to me like the zombies have a little bit less visual feedback in terms of animations when a weapon connects and the blood that should accumulate on them over time. I remember in the first game, the zombies would get progressively bloodier as you beat down on them, so you didn’t need a health bar to tell if you were close to killing them. Personally, I liked the relatively casual feel of the first game since I don’t much care for RPGs due to the grind usually required (full time student and work), so I’m disappointed to see that they shifted the focus to a more mainstream RPG style of game. I still have high hopes for the game and can’t wait to play, though!!
Yep! The downgrade of the blood really breaks the immersion. And I’m not a fan of how the zombies fly when you hit them with a table leg 😑, they need more weight to the bodies
This 2nd game the sound doesn't seem as good and the chase seems kinda slower if that makes any sense. Hopefully im just not seeing correctly im still gonna buy this at midnight or as soon as it available tomorrow. Wish I had a next Gen console but I still have the trusty Xbox one
@@Voltomess I'm a big fan of the first dying light. The game is extremely fun in terms of gameplay, the physics of this game, the way your weapon hits feel and the way everything plays out just makes me come back to it everytime. There's also alot of content and a dlc like the following which could've been a whole different game but is here as a dlc. It adds vehicles, new skill trees and a better story along with new ways to play the game. This DLC is my favorite out of any game I know. Killing zombies in this game is a feeling you will never get from any other game, it's amazing how they react to the hits and respond with good animations of them backing and the physics are really good on the bodies in this game. The game also has good attention to detail which makes it seem more alive. There are bullet ricochets (the game does not tell about this and these can kill npcs) Incredible detail to sound, Its hard to explain but it's done really well And it has an incredible environment. Story aside this game is perfect in almost every way atleast for me. It's the only game I have that I didn't ever uninstall from my computer.
Oh bro, just you wait for the ending of the game, it legit made me hate the game. One of the worst writing I have ever experienced, its ME3 original endings all over again.
The original is more darker with that zombie apocalypse charm into it, without talking about the night and the random zombie screams, man it was so good playing this game
Literally. In dl1 just standing still and listening to the dreadful zombie moans and screams in the atmosphere was terrifying by itself. Nostalgia for the original will always hold a special place in my heart
So far from what I’m seeing in videos and comments, Dying light 1 is better. I loved the 1st one. This new one seems pretty good. Some positives and negative’s. But, I think I’ll wait for more reviews and a price drop.
In 2 the parkour is a lot more prevalent in the endgame (grappling hook isn't OP, but still super good), and the traversal is cranked to 11 as far as immersion goes. Long jumps, gliding, trampolines, everything plus the kitchen sink. Combat is a bit scaled back and simplified to a level system (rather than what the player has the balls for), and they adopted a weapon durability system where there is no repairing. There's also no guns (with a lame excuse), nor Be The Zombie, and no cars. 2 still has that little bit of the easter egg and subtle goofiness that the first game had, but the soundtrack is a lot more lacking in direction. The first game was solid, techno synth type stuff with a Middle Eastern twist, consistent. 2's soundtrack is a bit all over the place, with some techno synth, orchestras, and a much more bass boosted tone. It's one of the smaller details, but it's part of the experience. It's still good music, just much more variable. Biggest thing for me personally is difficulty, 2 night time isn't any different from day time, really. No volatiles on patrol, it's bright enough to see without the flashlight, there's no real reason to be stealthy. It doesn't feel dangerous like the first game. 2 is also just easier in general, because there's a parry system, and like I said, it's simplified. Not only does it have a level system, enemy humans start to look like robots real quick, because they only spam like 2 moves and they all move exactly the same. The zombies are just like the first game. Overall, it's a fairly different game, but it still feels like Dying Light at its core. They did a good job at explaining the cliff hanger in a way that was satisfying, and they gave us a replayable adventure with branching paths. It's definitely not something to replace the first game with, but they can coexist just fine.
Flashlight casting shadows was considered one of the selling points of Doom 3 and The Chronicles of Riddick, released 18 years ago. It's mind-blowing that with all these ray tracing and brand new lighting techniques, we have actually kinda regressed back.
The issue with that is dynamic lights that are made by a char can cause massive performance decrease these days due to how much more detailed things are now. Especially in games with tons of transparency or a multiplayer game, it can cause even more issues. Those games didn't have much detail in the world itself like we are expected to have now. Ray tracing helps this out a lot, but it's not utilized here cause it's not fully adopted yet. We have definitely not regressed if you look at games that do utilize what we are capable of like metro exodus with it's enhanced ray tracing.
@@Brown614 Sounds like a legit answer/reason, thanks for this. I was wondering about this as well. I remember thinking the same thing with a lot of other games. Half life for example had shadows i think. How your flashlight casting shadows made such a massive difference in how spooky things can look. Though they could add it as an extra option for the pc version maby? I wonder how much extra calculation power it would cost if you would activate it. Like how much would your fps drop by something like this.
I think it could be a gameplay choice. In an enclosed area with all the objects casting shadows it would be hard to see, especially in dense rooms. Cleary its not a technical issue. Maybe adding it as an option.
The difference is that those old games used stencil shadows or some other fairly cheap(by today's standards) technique. Today with RT, shadows are much more realistic and physically accurate. It's more expensive but looks way better. I hope Techland adds shadow casting to the flashlight in a future patch because yeah, it adds a lot to the horror mood.
Dying light 1 was the same way, in it’s early stages the game looked fairly plain and definitely not as pretty as it does now. We can hope future updates will make the game look alot more nostalgic than new
Dying Light 2 map seems like a better parkour playground. But some animations feel clunky. Sounds design and color grading feels like a step back from previous game horror and immersive atmosphere.
Probably because they wanted to go with a more stylistic design instead of that disgusting washed out tone that the original had, most definitely gonna get this one
@@royolaniye6643 yeah but that was amazing about the first one. There was blood and gore in the streets, the zombies sounded terrifying and the volatiles felt like real mutated monsters that chased you and made you feel genuine panic. I tried the new game and im quite sad it doesnt feel the same. Its a fun zombie game I guess.
@@royolaniye6643 Stylizing is a matter of consistency more than anything else. The vivid color palette, surreal cityscape, and dramatic visual effects contrasts *greatly* with the horror elements, gore, and dark interiors. This game does a lot, having a consistent style isn't one of them.
For me personally, it feels like dying light 2's graphics took a turn to be more cartoony than the first one, and the art style feels similar to the walking dead for some reason. And then for the parkour aspect, dying light 2 has more variety of moves you can do than the 1st one, but the parkour feels like it has no weight and this is so apparent when you jump from a high place to a trash pile/car because in dying light 1 you can feel the fall, but in dying light 2 it just feels like a normal jump. And all of those are caused by bad sound design, and bad effects.
The first game the nighttime gameplay looks so much better honestly. The overal atmospher in general just nails the whole b movie survival horror zombie land vibe. The 2nd one seems to have prettier graphics and a lot of added bells and whistles.
That’s because DL1 was the beginning of the breakout, DL2 is set many years in the future and people have learnt how to live with it. It’s going to be a prettier game, it’s supposed to. I’ve played this from start to finish, there’s nothing that I’d change! As for the night time gameplay, it’s literally a lot better than the original. I feel safer in a dark zone at night than I do roaming the streets and rooftops 😂
also one small gripe and something I kinda hate is, in the second one the scan looks too much like a cod scan grenade or something instead of what the first one did, which looked way better and added to the atmosphere instead of detracting from it. I get in the second one they'd be harder to see since they need to contrast the bright colors but still
Thank you! And agreed. I brought it up to the developers and they should have it in a list of things they need to tweak/fix. I think they knew it was a bug and are trying to get it working.
I've been playing DL2 with a friend and the best way I can describe it 1 step forward 2 steps back. DL2 looks better and the parkour feels good, but DL1 feels better in terms of sound design, physics, combat, and ambiance/horror factor. DL2 just feels like a Ubisoft game with parkour and zombies.
Really I found the combat with more human refreshing as the old human combat was kind of janky and you just ended up shooting them or they shot you and it got boring. Now you have to fight them with melee, they’re smarter, and you fight a lot more humans. 90% of the time you’re fighting biters in dying light 1 that do the same lunge attack and take 10 swings to kill unless you’ve got massively op weapons at the end of the game. Also the grappling hook was so brokenly good it kinda ruined free running, it just seemed like you were just running to wait for it to recharge. All my opinion just wanted to drop my 2 cents.
Almost 10+ hours in DL2, gotta say… volatiles are nonexistent, only come out during chase level 3, they’re so cartoonish, they’re more annoying than frightening compared to DL1, I gotta purposely stay till chase level 3 just to encounter them, was kind of a let down tbh.
@@R3VENG4NCE Was always a fun time though. The mad sprints and dashs to a safe zone, only to run out as the coast cleared traversing the slums/city by memory because there was so little functional lighting. Making good use of the bonus XP.
I hate how you don’t really have a good change to kill them. I get 1 hit by them all the time. I can almost kill them but suddenly they glitch out and the UV light stops working on them
The second game looks great but why does every game have to be an RPG now, immersion is where the first game shined and it sucks to see it thrown away here.
@@mycelia_ow I think what he meant to say is that the atmosphere looks too much like a fantasy, while DL1 looked more like an altered reality, which greatly influences immersion. I personally love fantasy, but in Dying Light it’s just a little weird to see the cartoonish colour scheme.
@@MrPatrickbuit though there are people who didn't like the atmosphere of the first game. didn't this same studio make dead island? that was pretty colourful as well. I'm sure there would be people complaining no matter which art direction they took with DL2, if you're on PC then ReShade to the rescue. I have my colours set to look like the first game. Unfortunately that's all that can be changed really is just the graphics.
You're right. I just finished DL2, and honestly...DL1 is just better, and a lot more tense. The few new additions to DL2 don't make up for the things they took away. No guns, none of the cool drop down attacks (the "Stomp" skill sucks), the global traps, the guts cover system, the ultra populated zombie areas, like the big bridge...there's just so much missing. And while volatiles have come back in DL2, they are so damn tough that on the few occasions you DO encounter them, you're very likely to get ripped apart in 2 hits. DL2 needs a LOT of content that I don't think we're going to get to be on the same level as the first game. And you very rarely feel in danger at night due to the over abundance of easily accessible UV zones. Literally everyone has access to massive UV lamps and the electricity to power them for some reason. Instead of just having the large communal spaces like the Bazaar or PK ship, you can find a UV safezone within 100-150m in any direction no problem.
I'm at 100 hours into the 2nd one now. The first difference I noticed (gameplay wise) was the less crunchy combat. I know that reviews hated the combat in DL1 when it came out, but I loved it. Being able to see your character target specific body parts was just great. The 2nd uses some default animations when you hit specific areas like torso/legs..etc. Also Aiden doesn't get a quick escape which is borderline rage inducing.
DL1 looks smoother to me, atmosphere is tenser and environment feels real, almost like you're not playing in a fictional city but in a recreation of existing and familiar place, lighting and graphics are stunning and sound design is far superior. Overall probably the best gaming experience I've ever had in any single player game and I also wanted it to never end.
It's the complete lack of camera motion - and I am so sad nobody is talking about this. In DL1, the camera would tilt, sway and bop when walking, running, jumping and climbing. In DL2, there is almost no camera motion at all - even though the graphics have much higher fidelity, everything ends up looking just fake and lifeless. It does not look like parkour camera footage at all - they completely lost that Go Pro / Hardcore Henry feel of DL1. And I understand DL1 caused motion sickness for a lot of players - but they could have kept the realistic, confusing camera motion that made DL1 so immersive, and provided an accessibility option to turn it off. For me, it means I probably won't even play DL2.
dl2 is pretty blurry and low res for me even though i have it set to max settings. and for some reason it runs worse in fullscreen than in windowed-borderless
I hope you guys don't choose your women like you choose your visuals, because you all have beer goggles. You guys sound like you don't have ray tracing capable cards. After experiencing ray tracing, the difference is painfully obvious to me. The lighting in the first Dying Light looks all flat and fake, as if there's an invisible light source somewhere.
I loved the first game because it felt like a scary survivor game where every zombie was dangerous. The new one feels like a generic action game (but it's still a good game).
I just love the feel of the first one more, more dark and quiet with tons of zombies coming after you where you were dropped in a city full of people hiding in the shadows
I feel like the combat has taken a step back in feel and animations. The zombies and humans don't seem to react as uniquely to being hit in certain areas as much as the last game. They way enemies react to physics in general seems to have taken a step back. The damage on their bodies(blood, broken/missing limbs) served as a better visual than the health bars imo. The way I felt like the player could strategically target certain body parts to have added effects seems to be all but gone as well. The attacks feel less weighted and crunchy with less of an impact, the absence of x-rays adds to this as well. Overall the combat feels much less strategic and brutal other than addition of the new moves. Which is a shame because that was one of my favorite parts of the original. Edit: The kick also feels much less effective and without it's weight as well at least early one.
I highly agree, it is still there but not as fluid, especially with blunt weapon physics. The animations seem more stilted. It used to be more dynamic before, (the blending between physics and and animations) now many hits just trigger a simple animation. The biggest downgrade
DL1 had way more refinement and detail, in both the sound design and combat. For example - in the original Dying Light if you wanted to decapitate a zombie while they were on the ground it was best if you physically positioned yourself to the side of them, the game would intuitively recognize what you were attempting to do, and Crane would chop down vertically with a perfect swing. Just an experiment - try cutting the limbs off of fallen/dead zombies in the first game vs the second, and you'll immediately notice the difference. The combat was way more intuitive in DL1, at least in terms of fighting zombies. Also, a lot of the new combat maneuvers are just goofy. The stomp in DL1 was so raw and satisfying - in DL2 you jump in the air like a circus goofball and land on their head with both feet.
The zombies behave differently, since ragdoll is only activated AFTER zombie is dead, they use animations instead during combat: at 2:48 during the DL2 footage, you can see the same animation is played twice (watch closely), when kicking the zombie at the roof. in DL1 the arms flail due to physics, here it's because it's animation, this is also why they don't slip off the roof
The lighting, color pallet, and sound design are all off base. Also there's a lot of "satisfying" details missing. At the start of the sound design portion of the video - you can hear all of the unique differences in the original Dying Light when running on different roof surfaces. The transition from steel to clay shingles ext... Everything in the original game was very satisfying, with the exception of the gunplay
@@johannesschmitz6370 it's much brighter, the volatiles essentially don't exist, the numbber of zombies are so far down you'll never really feel "outnumbered", only ever "outgunned", and the second part is only because they doubled down no the rpg system. it's also extremely grindy, and basically everything is locked from the start, including, no joke, sprint. health and stamina are upgraded seperately, and you need like 4 levels into stamina to unlock sprinting, which, combined with the fact that, the skill point system, adn the leveling system, are completely seperate, magnifies the grind exponentially. in addition to all the parkour and combat you need to do for skill points, you need to run around finding the item's required to level up. yes, you read that right, you level up via items. in addition, certain activites require a certain level of stamina, or they are literally impossible, and the game tells you how much they need. overall, while the core combat and parkour is essentially the same, i find the game a downgrade, in everything except graphical fidelity, and even then the visual styling is less horror, more fantasy. i'm havnign fun drop kicking zombies, but even teh story is so bland i just started skipping it, and the parkour feels jank for some reason. not likely to spend more than a week playing it, maybe 2, and i played the first one for months when it came out, and more after the dlc.
@@Choryrth same! I just can’t believe ☹️ after 1 one they should just upgrade more things and make a new good story, but somehow game doesn’t feel better
I don’t mind the new lighting and coloring. Both games have their own style, reflecting their respective storyline. Dying Light tells the story of a desperate survivor surviving a brutal apocalypse. While this is still the case in Dying Light 2, the fact that it’s so far into the apocalypse allows the game to show the resurgence of life in the wake of the destruction. It really helps to accentuate the more stylized look the game seems to be going for, and is rather gorgeous.
I prefer the 1st one. Also the parkouring seems to have more weight in the first one, it looks too smooth and floaty in the second one. Also the look of Harran has just a special place for me. I will give DL2 a chance when it’s on sale.
Personally I like dying light 1 more for three reasons 1. You feel faster when running in dl1 when compared to 2 2. The night is not nearly as terrifying, in 1 im scared shitless of the night its pitch black with volatiles everywhere, in the new game i can chill at night on roofs and not care about the night cause nothing can hurt me unless im at chase lvl 3 3. The lighting, the grimness darker tones of 1 suits the game alot better
To be fair, unless you were unlucky you could chill on a roof in the first game and be fine at night, and idk about you but I find the nights in DL2 scarier. First game, you got some flares or Survivor level 12 and escaping a chase or even avoiding them was cake, but its nowhere near as easy to do so in DL2. Plus, the night in the first game was kind of easy. Even Volatiles could be cakewalks with some flares, a UV light, and some patience, be you level 5 or Legend 250. The movement feels better to me in DL2, and the way the music builds as you string longer parkour combos and how Aiden hypes himself with it just feels so amazing compared to the first game.
In the sound comparison,you should have included music as Dying Light 2 has extremely good music that reacts to your parkour,combat and other events dynamically
@@moremaga1776 dl2 depends on a lot of its music and for good reason,its amazing. Some scenes without it are simply bland tho the open world can be experienced without it pretty fine.
The only thing I don't like about the dl2 sound is the repetitive grunting every time you jump, seems like they just have a few grunt sounds that play *every* time you do a parkour move, really gotta tone it down imo
I feel like the footsteps and parkour sound effects were more apparent in the first game, (though perhaps the volume was just lower in the clips from the second game). Art direction-wise I really liked the style of the first game, but the new style differentiates the series more from Dead Island's more dreary look. The number of zombies crowding the streets at night seems absolutely terrifying in the second game, where as in the first the focus was mainly the volatiles which felt more like you were being hunted down by unrelenting beasts - enhanced by the truly dark environment.
You’re absolutely right about the mixing of the sound. The parkour sounds in DL2 are underwhelming. Unfortunately the amount of zombies on the streets at night means nothing, since you generally have. No reason to ever interact with them.
Hm, overall it seems like a lot of improvements, but there's still a few downgrades and one that really disappointed me. 1: Enemies getting kicked out of roofs, not stumbling certainly seems slightly worse. (It will get fixed, so that's great.) 2: Zombies not getting impaled. (It will get fixed, so that's great.) 3: Why did they get rid of the effect when you jumped off of a high building in DL1? It was great, and I miss it. 4 and the one that disappointed me the most: There is a sad lack of wind sounds when you parkour in DL2. Overall it was only 4 things that are downgrades so in general the second game looks and feels better but I really wish these four would get fixed.
Some of these things are not "downgrades" but confirmed bugs. I've reached out to techland regarding Point 1 & 2 here and they confirmed that it's on a list of things they're trying to fix.
First I don’t why they removed the falling from building affect. Second m, I”m guessing they remove the wind for dynamic parkour music where every time you start parkour the music company you throughout until you stop
The only thing i have to say about the second game is this. GET THE VOLATILES OUT ON THE STREET AT NIGHT! THEY ARE LITTURALY ONE OF THE SELLINGPOINTS OF THE DL SERIES!
@@user-wi7iy2me7y yeah more op indeed but they should be more prominent mabye not as crazy as the first game but atleast around the different darkzones would be nice and one every now and then in the streets too just to make their precense known
@@kristianphilipkarlsen4830 I do agrea on your words ,the volatile is LITERALY, THE THEAM OF THE GAME . i liked the first game, becose it wase a horror, which maked it a masterpice in the first place. theas type of games is meant to be a HORROR not leser horror.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe the dl2 city is horrible for freerunning if you start on the ground you have to try 10 different buildinhs to get on top again it just doesnt fit for a game like dying light
Dying light 1 is away better than Dying light 2. The demo of Dying light 2 from 2018 was like Dying light 1 but the devs changed to a "Fortnite" thing. Metacritic says it all, PC platform Dying light 1 has 87, Dying light 2 has 77, and User score is worse. I hope Techland has regreted and in the next Dying light they come back to the Original one, Good Night and Good Luck.
I do prefer the darker atmosphere in dying light 1. But as long as it's mod friendly I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be possible to mod darker nights or better UI elements.
@@zacmcculloch721 yo i dont want to turn the entire day into nightime either. I want a balance and some changes to the graphics just look at GTA Enbs you will get what i mean.
@@kls1836 Dude, gamma at 9/20 makes daylight super bright and night super dark. It's perfect. The game balances it out really well. Don't need external modifications.
I kinda disagree. The first game has a much more recognizable style. U can look at it and go like "oh damn that looks cool i wanna play it. Wait thats dying light?". The second game has that but in a bigger scale, and i think thats what puts it a bit below it. As great as it feels, i personally loved the grounded feel of Harran in the first game, but rhe second game certainly looks much better. Just a matter of preference
No, it doesn't, after ending the first one and jumping to the second, you can clearly see the vast improvements on every aspect and how immersive it is. Not to forget the first entry is 7 years old and still holds remarkably well
@@3XPLOSlV3 i agree someone commented before but with these uis and tone in visuals it remineds me of ubisoft games but better lighting albeit a downgrade in overall tone.
Yeah first thing I noticed was the crappy ragdoll. I really hope they fix it. It seems like they simplified the things that mattered. The way he swings the weapon… it seems like he’s swinging a feather instead of something heavy. Dying light one had a very satisfying combat and it seems like they went the opposite direction
Really? Huh I guess it's because this are low-levelled enemies. Since to me I experienced it that enemies mostly ragdoll near death or upon received a fatal hit where they die on the attack.
Dying Light 1 definitely captured the theme of the game. Night runs were much more terrifying and overall the game was more difficult. So far, in Dying Light 2, it seems to be focusing on the rpg element more than the horror element. Plethora of safe zones, night runs are fairly simple, and the chase system takes away a lot. The first one, you knew volatiles were coming in any event you were seen. You could hear them screeching and howling all over the place when you were noticed. In the second game, you have to progress through the chase levels before you have to worry about them. Also, another eye glaring difference is the number of NPCs. In DL1, you rarely had encounters while exploring. It really felt like the infected had taken over and the streets were lifeless. In DL2, there's NPCs everywhere roaming around. Rather they are being attacked, attacking you, or just chilling near a fire, it seems like you are running into them everywhere and it takes away from the loneliness you felt in the first game that made the game even more terrifying. Dying Light 1 is much more in tuned with it's title.
I loved the music to the first Dying Light, its got a real old school zombie movie feel to it. I really hope this new game doesn't do away with what made the first game so great.
from what I've heard it's like the first game but sort of with a "rotting" feel to it, like the record it's playing from is broken. sounds pretty cool imo
While I miss Pawel’s music, so far from what I heard in game Olivier does a good job bringing the world of dying light 2 to life. The new music still shares the synth elements in the first ost, but in my opinion it sounds a lot more broken/gritty along with this unexplainable depth especially with the ambient tracks.
I'm curious as to how much and how good interiors are in this game, it was one of my favorite aspects of dl1. The feeling of hiding through these places that people lived in and turning a corner and see a zombie standing there, not to mention they felt very realistic and lived in
Downgrade, there's barely any furniture, anything you can search through besides some bags. I haven't experienced the second part of the map yet, but the first one has pretty bad interioirs
I think we can all agree DL1 is a gem, ive played the game countless hours, replayed the campaign, grinded legend levels, and i can say I've enjoyed every second of it!
Is it just me or does hitting the zombies in DL1 feels more impactful with tangible stutters and has that crunchy feedback feeling and the zombies don't stagger easily and even pounce forward on you making it harder to slice them and even the kick has a bit of rumbling and vibration to it as it's impacting on the zombie. And when you fall from a high point, the wind speed sound increases and the camera shakes with blur as you're falling down. While in DL2, I dunno the combat feels more "game-ish" in a way, almost shallow as you're slicing air with minimal feedback and the zombies aren't as aggressive as the first game (it's like they're easy xp givers) and the kick is underwhelming with barely any rumbling feedback and there's no visible effect on screen as you're falling down, you just fall down with no wind or camera effect. And the graphics in DL1 have more "POP" to them, dark, contrasty, intense and atmospheric with that lens flare (aggressive lens flare from the sun as it blinds you and even from fire and electricity too), film grain effect and lite motion blur, you could really feel unease, tense and stressed out because you didn't want to go outside on the streets because there were hundreds of undead waiting around every corner and even crowded on the streets and open areas (like squares, intersections etc...). The graphics in DL2 lose that bit, no more film grain, no more contrasty atmospheric tension-filled look, no more lite motion blur and no more "fear of the zombies" feeling. It now has multiple layers of color (which is appreciated but strangely out of place since this isn't supposed to be a happy colorful world, this is still a zombie plague we're talking about here), you move and interact in a more "static" way if you get what i mean, there's no heavy movement with heavy motion (as a normal human being would have) like in the first game, the image is clean and clear with barely any visible aggressive effects for physicality (like how it flashes black and white when you get hit or fall down or how the weapon slice snap-rebounds off the zombie as the screen shakes). To me it seems that Techland made DL1 as the tough, grounded and physical zombie apocalypse game, but made DL2 as the shallow fun zombie Role Playing Game (that is different from what Techland set out to make with the first game)
yep, DL2 has been updated to fit the current society. Alot of the reviews down talk DL1, but it was a great game, better from what I have seen of the second so far, but I do not like to speak so soon because I loved CP and had no issues running it.
@@A42yearoldARAB Mods will bring back dark night and less colorfull world and also put more zombie outstide but yeah it feel like they wanted to be more catchy and less violent or horror to bring "casual gamer" that "just want to have fun" so they choose this way.. But i still think that there are some improvement to and i'll only judge it after doing the full story and see if we do not have some hidden thing that they doesn't show on the Ad
think the same, but to be fair That look like a gamedesign choice. The game is more smooth and better réactivity for get better combat system and parkour
Yeah, I feel like the sheer "weight" and feedback from your hits connecting with the zombies especially is a step back. In DL1 they stumbled around and reacted in a realistic way to your hits, in DL2 it looks like the amount of animations and detectable hits is turned down. Kind of underwhelming imo.
What I don't like in the DyingLight 2 is the amount of hud on the screen especially the triggered hud, feels like I'm playing Survival mode. Hope we can adjust the hud options.
As a sound designer, thank you for a really great comparison of audio between the two. Most people just glaze over audio as if its not important at all. You gave multiple contexts and each with a very good direct counter part comparison. I was hoping however that you might give opinions and thoughts on any different audio mechanics that may have been created or removed from Dying Light 2, and what audio mechanics you liked in general in both games. Regardless thank you for a really nice comparison, and well presented and edited video. :)
Two things I've really noticed are a bit of a downgrade to me is the lighting at night and the amount of zombies out.. We all remember having to go install uv lights on the bridge in the first game...sooooo many zombies..
@@mars4835 yeah that does make sense!!! I just always thought it was cuz that was an exit to the city and people all got overran there trying to escape
@@TheSaltyFlamingo that could also add to it! They’re making noise, drawing in infected, probably a number that hid it. Boom. Massive area of heavy infected!
2:35-3:10 It’s getting so tiresome… that was a HUGE part of the fun in the first one. Edit: 11:00 Don’t you love how UA-cam won’t let you do your job to its fullest extent?
The thing that really drew me to Dying light 1 and made it one of my top 5 favorite games, was the fact it reminded me so much of dead island. The physics, the ridiculousness at times, lighting, sound, atmosphere. I truly do enjoy Dying light 2 but it lacks that same nostalgic feeling. It is immersive, atmospheric, fun etc but it takes itself a bit more serious than dying light 1 did. One of the biggest complaints I have is with the physics or lack of for that matter. I really wish developers would stop downgrading and start upgrading from previous titles. There is no reason why Dying light 2 should lack a lot of what made dying light 1 so successful and popular. You have a template of what has proven to work but for some reason someone decided that it didn't all of a sudden? lol. Blows my mind.
Dying Light is QUITE different from Dead Island though. Same devs, but the combat is ages better in Dead Island to the point DL1 feels like a downgrade. The mobility in DL is the only thing better imo, as well as the story telling which sucked in both Dead Islands. The gunplay is a big upgrade too, but lack variety of guns. I didn't play the second game yet, but I hope it is better.
You made several great points. Hopefully the devs will get feedback and hopefully they knock their next one out of the ballpark. I'm super excited for dead island 2 but we all been let down before. Here's to hoping.
I still haven’t bought DL2 because they changed so many of the foundations that made DL1 so good (from almost every review I’ve seen at least). A dev did an interview where he said they were toning down the danger and anxiety inducing chases and atmosphere at night because some people found it too difficult. I instantly lost interest from then on, despite DL1 being one of my favourite games. They tried to appeal to as many casual players as possible and ended up alienating the core players. Trying to make a game for everyone often leads to making a game for nobody. Such a shame in this case.
Can't believe they didn't realize there's something wrong with the missing flashlight shadow. They even showcased it multiple times in their trailers where the flashlight doesn't cast any shadows on the zombies. That looks horrible and absurd at the same time considering they made the effort to implement so many ray tracing effects.
I noticed that too but I wasn’t sure if it was a bug or intentional. Makes the game look like crap and ruins the raytraced indoor lighting. I hope they fix it soon.
I absolutely HATE the nighttime timer. Night time was stressful enough for me in the first game. Putting a timer on it has just completely killed my motivation to even play at night. I want to play at my own pace, not what the game dictates.
@@pineappleguy676 I just hate timers in general. it's artificial stress. The threat is not being fast enough, not something you can overcome or neutralize in totality. Plus it forces a specific kind of playstyle, which in a freeroam single-player open world game I'm against pigeon-holeing play styles.
I feel the fluid combat and gameplay has taken a hit in dying light 2. I hope more smoothness comes in performing combat and searching bodies or doing anything. To me dying light's gameplay requires a serious patch.
@@TheChiefSteve Yes, I also love the more complex combat system of hit, dodge, repeat of DL1, or perhaps the sophisticated aim at the head and shoot mechanic.
@@TheChiefSteve Also forgot to mention the hard to master style of combat against zombies. It took me years learning to press mouse 1 repeatedly at head level hoping I get a critical hit.
@@Mart1n002 Techland fuckers put you on a level 2-3 character with very low stamina and against Volatiles that 3-shot you. That first night in the game is probably one of the most stressful events in a videogame and I fucking love it.
@@ExNihiloNihilFit319 exactly, but here, you have to wait like 5 minutes outside before the chase get's up to higher levels and starts to get interesting, seems like a downgrade to me :D
DL2 does not seem as dark at night than DL1 did. Its night and it seems like you can still see pretty well. In DL1 if you have no flashlight at night you were screwed
@@MrEL91N The problem here is not the brightness neither gamma that you can change. The problem is that in DL1 you had a darker and scarier atmosphere and you had to adapt to survive in the beginning. Now you don't need to adapt as much as you needed in the first game.
@@ExNihiloNihilFit319 I agree the atmosphere isn’t the same but turning down the gamma does make night missions feel more impactful because you can longer see without it. Unless you’re on the roofs of course.
Original Dying Light was way ahead of its time. And it's a horror game. Unfortunately the 2nd title is a little bit plastic and doesn't bring the same feeling in player that you are in an apocaliptic situation
I don't understand how the physics engine, mechanics and animations are worse than the game they released 7 years ago. It really feels like they just threw this together, really focused on ray tracing, graphics, visual upgrades... that were all used to just sell the game. Much like other releases recently, Dying Light 2 looks amazing, yet surprisingly fails to deliver. I'm gonna keep playing DL1, and wait a year or more for them to actually finish this game, if they want to do that.
That’s what I’m saying bro. 7 years lol. We have better tech and equipment and after playing last night on ps5. It looks ugly, like bad. Gravity and parkour have a different feel, combat and animations are lacking big time and it’s all just an eye sore. All they had to do was give us more of DL1. They worked so hard on it over the years to make it what it is today and with DL2 all of that is gone and then some. They went backwards.
The video literaly said the opposite except for the zombies not connecting to the spikes or falling down but that was literaly the only thing which can be updated pretty easily.
I really liked how night was in the first dying light. With how dark it got and the fact that volatiles weren't locked behind chase level 3 made the game truly terrifying. In dying light 2 though with the more bluish light and there being no threat of volatiles just appearing it just feels like a harder day time when night should feel completely different
Just the atmosphere overall made night scarier. I think for dying light 2 they should keep the blue ish lighting but make it a little darker and instead of volatiles being locked behind a chase they should roam the rooftops
What happened to getting a fully developed game? Day 1 patches are not a trend we should allow to continue. I have anticipated this game for 6+ years w/ my buddies and to see this is definitely upsetting. I don't appreciate the shift to RPG mechanics, the lack of ambient noise is virtually gone, and why is the environment pretty? Give me the drab/gritty reality of DL1
lol what? A day 1 patch is perfectly fine. In order to meet distribution, they need to send out discs about 4 weeks ahead of release. In that time they can still fine tune the experience and patch it in by release. Would you prefer developers rush to meet a deadline and stumble out of the gate?
@@Nick930Vicious crunch culture is all these developers know, them failing is inevitable. I'm saying I would prefer if they developed a complete game rather than having to implement fixes and patches so early. Review distribution and ad spam overhype these games, so when it is time to review these games they often receive painfully average scores.
1. Dying light has always been an RPG game whether you noticed it or not. Enemies get stronger as you do, you have a skill tree, different weapons that have different stats, etc. 2. Idk what you're talking about. In the gameplays I've seen you can still hear ambience 3. I much prefer the new environment over the ugly nothing but grey environment of dying light 1.
@@Oilupimtherein5 THANK YOU...I thought I was crazy the grey theme was a massive turn off for me and the environment was cool couldn't help but feel cloistered especially with in the bigger cities. Glad they went with this hope they improve more cant wait for it to drop midnight
@@Oilupimtherein5 Enemies got stronger depending on story progression, not your skill level idiot. The beginning of the game you get pale zombies, and will continue to have so until a meeting with rais. The next significant change in zombies lvl up is when you reach old town the first time. It was never based on your level system, it was story based
This really like dead space. In the first dead space, the sound, lighting, atmosphere aswell as the somewhat slower but tense gameplay really makes it creepy and heart pounding, just like dying light 1, while dead space 2 moved towards being a more action and cinematic and less horror experience, just like dying light 2. Atleast that's what ive deducted from watching gameplay of it so far
Dead space 2 was good af, it was better than 1 on a lot of aspects tbh. Dead space 1 was ground breaking with the horror aspect and dead space 2 just built off that.
Although it's not covered in the video here, I'm pretty disappointed by the next-gen console performance options. Hopefully Techland can optimize the game moving forward.
If Sony & AMD can push through their FSR GPU chip patch things will change for all games on the platform. I think we have to wait for Mark Cerny to make a keynote about its implementation. FSR was announced last summer.
PS5 and Xbox series x have really poor performance. Not to mention it runs at 1080p 60fps Looks terrible at times when you’re looking out into the distance. Put it on quality mode and the game runs at like 15fps and the motion blur is cancer. Put it on resolution mode and the game literally goes autistic.
One thing I hope you touched on is the soundtrack, I loved the soundtrack in DL1 and its why I go back to play it. Wondering around in the empty streets of Harran with the chilling soundtrack just adds so much to the post apocalyptic theme. Being honest I've played DL2 for two hours or so and sadly the soundtrack doesn't even come close to the same vibes as DL1
And the nights of DL1, oh, I never got used to them at all!! How could you get used to walking in pitch black darkness with heavy rain fall and the only source of light being lightening that aluminates a volatile waiting for you, no game ever scares you with it's atmosphere like DL1
It seems like DL2 has lost the original's atmosphere and here's my opinion why: - The visuals seem less realistic and more stylized than those of DL1, this is because of things like added contrast and a less dark nighttime - Volatiles are not as prominent at night, CAMON!! THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS IN DL1!! - Sound design seems to have had a major step back as DL2 is missing stuff like the wind noise while running and the distant zombie screams from the first one - Why are there more trees in rooftops than in the streets? Takes away from the realism as well Even thought these might seem like small changes, when added all up they end up making DL2 less immersive and less scary than DL1.
Not gonna lies I might have to disagree with you on this one. -I like the visual despite it not realistic. It seem more unique with tree on the rooftops. -Second the new chase system kinda make the night much more harder and engaging especially now it not just volatiles chasing you(and some virals). Also in some newer gameplay you could see volatile still roaming around the free roam or at chase level 1. -For sound design I think it major step up despite it doesn’t have this feel of wind blowing while running. For example when you start doing parkour instead of wind blowing, the music will company while you parkour and it reacts to your certain right jump,far jump and etc. -You can still hear distance zombie(or the howler)screaming or just survivor screaming at night -I think dying light 2 is scary but maybe in some environments not scary at the first one but they are some part they are way more scary than the first. I’ll say it 50/50 -I’ll say this game is way more immersion than dying light 1(despite the tree on rooftop lol) That overall my opinion hope we can agree on something
The only thing I believe dying light 2 doesn’t do as good as the original is the tension that is created when it’s nighttime. Other than that dying light 2 does everything else better.
I think its better that the open world is not full of volatiles at night. They made night time exploration a chore in DL1. It wasn't even worth going out because of how hard volatiles were to kill and how many of them there were. I think its better to reserve volatiles for interiors and higher chase levels (like the swat teams in GTA) so the player can still feel encouraged to explore the world during the night.
I have faith that, with the 5 years of content we'll be receiving, dying light 2 may eventually surpass dying light 1. So far, dying light 2 is currently a disappointing but fun sequel.
@@2xraylee Why would we judge a game based on updates that might come out instead of what actually is out? Also, not a single AAA title that wasn’t cyberpunk has had good post launch support in the last few years, so I wouldn’t be too hopeful if I were you.
Dying Light 1 was leagues better, they focused on the atmosphere, exploration/discovery, world building, and the fear aspect Dying Light 2 focuses on the main story, gameplay activities, and loot chasing - but ends up being more shallow and generic, also taking away the unique style, feel, and atmosphere that made Dying Light what it was
I think removal of guns is a step back. Guns in DL1 always ran out fast and they sucked until the end of the game when you got the powerful one's. The combat looks upgraded, sad they did not continue the story with the first one minus the general idea. Would like to know what happened to everyone. I like the look of DL1 better, DL2 looks so cartoony. As the review stated, night time in the first really made you double think about being out lol.
Guns wouldn't fit the kind of game it is. The whole game is basically like humanity has devolved so it makes sense for advanced weapons like that not being available
This feels kind of similar to the case with watch dogs, The 1st game was gritty and more dark while the 2nd one is a lot more colorful and vibrant for some reason, Wish they kept the same type of vibe but other then that it seems there's lots of improvements. Although the running animation in the 2nd game doesn't look great
The first was badly received, very. The second not as bad but still was IN some way. Let's not speak on legion. As dying light 1 was good but had a lot downsides. 2 looking it is going down the same route which I am totally fine with.
There’s nothing like running out of stamina when 10+ volatiles are chasing you lol. That’s something the second game is missing, and I see all these comments talking about that. The ambience and tone of the first game is unbeatable. You truly do feel alone in a giant two part city. And in my opinion, I believe that the followings map is even creepier. I love the second game, and I think the story is even stronger, but the first game is unbeatable. I’ve gone through Dying Light 1 10+ times and i’ve 100%’d it 2 or 3 times so i’ve had my fair share of time with the game. I absolutely love this series, same with the Dead Island series. There’s something really special with all of these games, but especially with the first Dying Light.
There is a zombie in dying light one when you hit him with a weapon he beg you to stop like "Please no no!!" And them he come back to act like a normal zombie. That was my personal favorite thing in the game
Virals, the newly infected that sprint. They pretend to be human (maybe they are human, trapped inside a rotting body) then continue trying to kill you. Just a small detail that makes DL1 scary.
@@DezDies they're still Turning, that's why they talk, not pretending anything, kinda like rabies, you're still kinda you, but you can't fight the disease
The zombies behave differently, since ragdoll is only activated AFTER zombie is dead, they use animations instead during combat: at 2:48 during the DL2 footage, you can see the same animation is played twice (watch closely), when kicking the zombie at the roof. in DL1 the arms flail due to physics, here it's because it's animation, this is also why they don't slip off the roof
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Dying Light released in 2015* not 2016. "The Following" expansion release in 2016.
Also, the "ray tracing" options are not nvidia specific as I incorrectly noted here. It appears DLSS is the only nvidia specific feature this time around.
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Hello i just wanted to ask what you think about crysis 2 :)
It really does
No its just that Dying Light 2 looks aged for its release.
@@EfecanYSL this generation graphics won't start looking next gen till like 2025 that matrix demo proved its in development
I feel as the developers wanted the game to be more mainstream and new player friendly so they toned down on the grittiness of the atmosphere. The original dying light had me sweating.
casuals are a plague. Gatekeeping gets a bad rep but it is necessary.
@@brettalexander220 understandable though, it is necessary to keep the company alive and kicking. You know, cant create without breads. But to push it too far and forget about creativity is a deadly plague which many big gaming developing companies have fallen ill in.
@@lethanglong6979 Its a symptom of a wider issue affecting society.
But that was the charm of Dying Light to begin with, toning it down kinda turned this into a Dead Rising type of game no more the terrifying real-life looking zombie apocalypse experience, imo they kinda shot themselves in the foot by doing that, the game lost its iconic charm to me, if i want a casual noob friendly zombie killing game i go for L4D2 ir something, if i want a zombie apocalypse "simulator" i go for DL1, DL2 to me kinda doesn't fit in either of those which is a shame, honestly part of DL that i loved was it had a trash story bad characters and uninteresting quests overall, but the gameplay and atmosphere made up for it, going in a volatile infested tunnel even during the day when you were "safe" sent chills down the spine, not to mention the first time you deal with the screamer or every single time you do because those things are unsettling every time XD, DL2 kinda lost a big chunk of what made it DL to begin with
@@SHAdow98V its a soulless theme park now.
Dying Light 2 makes me feel like I'm a superhero, mostly Spiderman
Dying Light 1 makes me feel like I'm running for my life
well one way it would be for given is bc u have been pumped up with drugs that make u stronger and more resilient in DL2 "its said in the dialogue few times"
but ye, the nights in DL2 are bit too bright in my opinion and less scary compared to DL1. in DL1 the nights rly where scary and i rarely wanted to stay outside when the night fell but in DL2 u rarely care if its night or day "all tho volatiles are now the pure nightmare when u come across them, like trying to fight a Rhino with a fly swatter"
agreed to agree.
Spoiler warning!
I think you feel like that about Dying Light 2 is because he kinda is a superhuman
@@braxtonvillagran2664 Not really the game is just much easier due to the lack of volitiles at night and normal zombies in the day, and the chase system is much less terrifying
@@walterwhynot1690 true, but I feel that if you are getting chased by volatiles it gets very close to it
I feel like DL1 had this "vibe" that really captivated me, that DL2 just doesn't have. I think I enjoyed the "loneliness" I felt in the first one with how rare it was to find other humans around, along with the fear factor of the large amounts of zombies that were roaming around. The orange glow of the sunsets, the creepy atmosphere. The distant echoes of zombies screaming resonating through the quiet city. The ambient, slightly ominous music... It kind of felt like a dream sometimes.
That’s another thing i can say I really miss from the first game. The massive hoards you’d occasionally run into. It may have something to do with this game taking place 15 or so years ahead of the first and there aren’t as many zombies around anymore but I’m not sure. I agree.
For me it's more about the colors and effects. DL1 offered a very paricular atmosphere, the sunset for example used very strong orange colors fading down into an obscur red, making it look like it's the end of the world. The night was filled with a lot of different tones of grey, the interiors full of strong dark colors, everything to remind you that death was slowly taking over the city.
@@victorjozek5384 That's exactly what contributes to that feeling I'm talking about, and you put it very well. Also the lack of people and the large amount of zombies roaming around everywhere. Dying Light 2 doesn't have that. It's enjoyable but it doesn't have what made Dying Light "special" i guess
@@prospect8245 one thing i miss from one is that detail that was in houses and bushiness. stuff just left like people vanished. I loved looking at the books on shelves and stuff like that. I get and understand that over 15 years everything would be looted for any useful stuff. just miss looking over the houses and stuff.
@@conway-jr4ce yeah i get exactly what you mean
Many little improvements but also quite a few steps backwards.
My biggest pet peeve is the melee combat, the way the weapons just seem to go straight through the enemies whereas in the first one it truly felt like you were hitting actual objects.
Engraçado q com isso o dying light 2 foi menos popular q o primeiro
they changed it, now when you hit an enemy's body it stops the swing, it looks so bad for dismemberment
That was probably the first thing I noticed. In the original when I missed a swing it was because I had improper spacing, or I swung vertical as they went sideways. In the second one I could SWEAR I'm hitting them and sometimes my swings will simply not register as a hit. Even more infuriating when you're trying to swing at one that's charging at you only for it to miss completely resulting in you getting grabbed while everything in a 3 mile radius wails on you.
EXACTLY
It's been improved, still not as good as 1 tho
I agree with you about the lighting. In DL 1 the first time i was stuck outside during the night was the first time a game legitimately scared me and i refused to be stuck outside at night after that for a long time. From the gameplay you show you can still see most everything during the night, and being able to plan where to go kinda ruins the "run for your life" feel for me.
Took me awhile to grow a pair and toy with the volatiles lol
I’m curious if this can be fixed in the settings. In Days Gone, for example it starts with a default brightness of 5, which makes night time especially look washed out and bright. Moving this down to 2 made colors during the day, and darkness at night, pop a lot more significantly. I’m curious if these games default to a higher brightness for less technical casual players who might not think to go in and change them, giving them a less intimidating night time experience. I guess we’ll find out.
Brightness option
@@trippybruh1592 honestly, I only grew a pair lately, but still lock picking is a big no no at night on ground level, now I'm just looking at that dam clock waiting for dl2 to drop at 12 at night, it's like if you don't have a job or kids your winning, I have both 😔 I've been screwed one this one but am I going to get a cheeky hour in ? hell ya I am.
I had the exact same feeling. I loved being scared of the night gameplay and I remember when I finally felt like I was strong enough to take it on, I geared up and prepped my run. What a feeling.
The atmosphere of Dying Light 1 is unmatched.
Exactly, I’m about 16 hours into the 2nd one and it feels like a huge downgrade from the first one. Dying light 1 was absolutely terrifying.
@@fazeilrugio7014 I wonder how many people dropped the game because it was so terrifying. I for one avoided nights as much as possible besides the story requirements
@@fazeilrugio7014 I appreciate the changes in the new game. If it was exactly the same as the first game why wouldn't I just keep playing the first game? The new combat is a bit worse though compared to dl1.
@@jesusking3488 DL2 feels like Mirror's Edge in a zombie apocalypse. I don't like how they removed camouflaging and replaced the danger of the night with a timer... And btw, why would they remove guns? To balance all the factions? Guns in DL1 were useful, but you were risking attracting more zombies and using them at night was suicide, so Why'd they take them away?
@@fazeilrugio7014 Fr bro. Yall speak from my soul
Dying light 1 had the best sound design imo. Your movements sounded like they had weight to them, unlike DL2 where everything is so unnaturally quiet and soft.
That could be explained away with Aiden being a pilgrim. They travel alone through dangerous places, so being quiet is their specialty. Ninja outfit muffled Kyle's noises as well
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830 nah bro this is just cheap xD
The feeling of the whole game is much worse
@@newbie2k477 it isn't, i'm assuming you are dealing with nostalgia. Because you used to enjoy games more years ago doesn't mean the old ones are better
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830 you’re tryna cover up poor sound design with assumptions
@@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830
I also thought it was nostalgia, but when I watched this film, I came to the conclusion that it was just a better game. The combat system, the sounds, and the style all contributed to an amazing experience.
Just all the things that sounded out in the first game are muffled here. And some nonsensical things like armor, weapon upgrades are more developed, and that's not what the first game was about to me.
Dying light 2 just seems empty to me, maybe that will change with a few fixes and some DLC.
I also played the dying light 1 not so long ago, because about a year ago, and I finished it 3 times so I think I can say something about that.
Dying Light 1 is one of the rare games which made me butt clench. Hearing the Volatile's heavy breathing and their heavy quick footsteps while behind you was crazy.
Butt clench 😂 dude you deserve an award for expressing how most of us felt during the game
True . I never went out at night
volatile in DL2 also means death
@@trololoev i cope with them using a PK crossbow. 2 shots and theyre gone. Issue is when there's a group of them
@@patrickmallari1411 I mean, PK crossbow is the equivalent of 8k damage shotguns from dl1
The first Dying light still holds a special place in my heart. The level of immersion, photorealism, day and night cycle, intensity, character development as the story progressed and high replay ability. Still roaming the streets at night with the violatiles lol.
completely agree
I really liked the of light on everything in the first game, it's like you are constantly at the dusk of humankind
To me, DL is gloomy, not beautiful in a tradional way with a lot of colors and everything ^^
@Christian Gormley sounds good and all but that’s not a good solution
@Christian Gormley Mods exist, there's already reshades and I'm sure there will be more. People can express their displeasures about aspects of games.
The pitch black nights is what I'm missing in 2
At first impressions it seems like Dying Light 2 steps away a little bit from the immersion and genuinly scary atmosphere compared to the original. I noticed this especially in the sound design.
Definitely, I was really disappointed when I noticed :(
@unresfriado apparently the parkour looks great when playing the game, just not when watching it
@unresfriado i loved the floaty parkour more than parkour in dying light 1. also after watching a few gameplay of dying light 2 you wouldnt even notice the parkour is floaty
They went for a more arcade-ish vibe, in general.
for some reason they wanted it to be more a RPG game
I think that the things that bother me the most are:
- the absence of wind sounds while running of rooftops.
- the cool x-ray effect that you would get when you broke a zombie's bone.
- the ability to perform a special takedown when you broke a zombie's bone (which was one of the coolest things in the first game IMO).
- and the ability to throw weapons, i just don't get why they's get rid of it, it was a lot of fun to be able to throw you weapons.
I really do hope that these features get added at some point in the future, cause they were some of the most satisfying things in the first game for me.
Wait wait... you can't throw weapons anymore?!
@@dondavir6658 from what nick said, yea, you sadly can't throw weapons anymore :(
@@thephantomparadox6572 I honestly never used this feature that much, but... Why should you remove it???? Let people enjoy it, I can easily understand having fun with it
I never understand why games remove features for sequels instead of just improving on them
also the health bar over zombies thats the worst hopefully we can turn that off
Dying Light 1 had that "the world is ending" type of vibe, the streets where filled with Zombies making it difficult to travel, the slums felt Closter phobic making any encounter with infect a bit more scary, and the nights feel like hell trying to navigate while trying not to tore apart by Volatiles. Dying light felt like the world was falling apart around you.
Dying light 2 feels like a post-post apocalypses, the virus has had a decade and a half to settle in and many people have figured out what works and what doesn't.
Dl1 is in a city
claustrophobic 😂
i mean that is the point of dl2, its the rise of humanity after the apocalypse while dl1 is when Harran's people are at their lowest point
@@ItsTealv fax tho
You basically described both games background story
Dying Light 2 looks fun, but I still prefer the visuals of Dying Light 1. Something about it just looks so much more photorealistic than the sequel
The second game is way too colorful, it feels like I went on a vacation.
@@oboroth51 i mean it is realisctic tho
@@mayowsky Not really, it looks way too cartoony. Like comparing black ops graphics to modern warfare.
Bruh
@@A42yearoldARAB can be easily fixed. there is an option to turn down the sharpness (he is at max) thats why it looks so cartoony. also you can reduce the saturation aswell.
Dying light 1 zombies were much scarier and the overall game felt like a survival game dying light 2 feels more like a rpg .it's weird still fun but different
Kinda has a far cry feeling
It’s like far cry/attack on titan/division 2
agree
I hate the RPG trend in gaming so much
@@fvrlit I love it
The sound design during dl1 chases still gives me chills every time it really does feel as though you’re one mistake away from death which is both exhilarating and horrifying 😅
In the first game everytime I was being chased anytime I messed up any action I would start to freak out irl, definitely the most panicked a horror game has made me
@@Whiteobamas same lol I’ve actually been playing dl1 recently after I got it on sale with some of the dlc (I’m way too late I know but it’s such a good game I don’t care) already excited for dl2 and I haven’t even finished dl1 yet!
@@blackoutlol2857 barely got any into dl2 and I got banned from playstation for 7 days and can't play since a friend is using my account as their home playstation
i got too used too it. i was on nightmare mode no HUD and i literally just killed most of them. even i would run for the whole night. volatiles are more harder in dl2.
Yeah i downloaded dl1 like 2 months ago to replay the game but uninstalled it because it was soo scary to play in a solo session
having far less enemies in the streets at daytime is such an odd choice and makes me confused on what the developers were thinking. the big reason to why parkour is so valuable not only to the player but to all the other survivors is because of how the streets were packed with zombies all the time and it a layer of difficulty and tension, DL2 just feels so much more artificial in alot of weird ways that pull me out of the game and never really has that natural immersive quality that the first game did
I've played Dying Light 1 through a few times now, I absolutely love the game. One of my favourites. I'm really Enjoying 2. But I feel like Dying Light 2 feels less like a sequel (so far) and more like a whole different game with DL1 as its inspiration.
IKR I don’t why but, I feel the exact same way. I’m enjoying DL2 but something about it feels so cartoony compared to the serious tone of the first game. The game is certainly not bad but, it doesn’t feel like a sequel to DL1.
Some small tweaks could actually improve this I think. Lets hope Techland notice the feedback.
It’s an entirely new setting based on the same universe. It honestly feels more like medieval fantasy which I personally like but understand why people don’t.
@@tofferooni4972 I think that’s the main issue with the game. It feels so different from the first thematically. Obviously people want a new setting with a new map and story with improvements to gameplay but, imo it strays away from what made DL1 so special for me in the first game. The map is really dope in DL2 but, the colors, music, hud and the way the characters look is so much more cartoony/fantasy like. It’s not bad but, it’s a shift in tone from what I was expecting in a sequel. If you look at early e3 demos of DL2 you see how much better the colors pallet is and tone. Those demos felt much more like an appropriate sequel than what we have now.
@@Christian-lw5vw Yup. Optics and combat are way more unrealistic and less gruesome. It´s more like an arcade game where DL1 had that feeling of a realistic zombie apocalypse. Weapons packed a punch and felt "heavy" because of the awesome ragdoll effects present at any time. Just compare the "Kick" in both games. In DL1 enemy bodies react accordingly and physically correct depending on where and when you kick them. In DL2 every zombie reacts with the exact same lame canned animation and you can´t just kick them to stumble and trip over another corpse etc. It´s ridiculous.
I hope they fix the rag doll issue soon. The way you could toss a zombies around in the first game always was my favorite thing about dying light.
Me too, hopefully they fix it
@@Brandon_N420 yehaa, i need a good ragdoll when kicking zombies from the roof :D
not buying it till its fixed
yes, zombies would often trip and fall in various funny ways in the first game. In Dying Light 2 they move very janky and fall standing for a second before starting to ragdoll
The spikes too. I loved dropkicking a enemy into a wall a spikes or throwing an enemy in front of me during a chase into some spikes.
I really like the 2nd one, and I don't know which game I like better overall. However, I don't think any game will beat the sheer terror of a night chase in the first game
ya im STILL avoiding the night because i of how hard it is for me to get over that XD 2 solved most of my problems and hell im feeling like its risks are worth it
DL1 is better in every way
@@crassusmaximus5879 not true at all lmfao
If you're on PC there's some great mods that increase the difficulty and intensity of nighttime to be more on par with the first game.
@@crassusmaximus5879 delusional
I have noticed that Dying Light 2 has an expanded audio pool which reflects real world events: during the night, you can clearly hear roars and screams of the survivors being targeted by monsters, and if you move in the general direction of these sounds, you actually find them.
the first one had that too
the first one had this too lmao
@@lilpullout The first one had environmental audio, but it didn't reflect the events. It's even harder to pinpoint where it's coming from.
It seems to me like the zombies have a little bit less visual feedback in terms of animations when a weapon connects and the blood that should accumulate on them over time. I remember in the first game, the zombies would get progressively bloodier as you beat down on them, so you didn’t need a health bar to tell if you were close to killing them.
Personally, I liked the relatively casual feel of the first game since I don’t much care for RPGs due to the grind usually required (full time student and work), so I’m disappointed to see that they shifted the focus to a more mainstream RPG style of game. I still have high hopes for the game and can’t wait to play, though!!
In the settings you can remove all health bars and other "rpg" like things
@@vlgravity3156 yeah I know but still feels like a rpg in terms on how the games made
@@lowerednature5383 Yep. I understand what you mean. The combat physics definitely need a rework ASAP. This shouldn't be how it is.
Yep! The downgrade of the blood really breaks the immersion. And I’m not a fan of how the zombies fly when you hit them with a table leg 😑, they need more weight to the bodies
Considering how long these zombies have been zombies for, any amount of blood would be.. weird. But I get your point!
Dying light is one of the rare games which you can play like forever. Awesome atmosphere and also sounds.
This 2nd game the sound doesn't seem as good and the chase seems kinda slower if that makes any sense. Hopefully im just not seeing correctly im still gonna buy this at midnight or as soon as it available tomorrow. Wish I had a next Gen console but I still have the trusty Xbox one
@@C.M.Goingplaces Yhe chase is actually really really fast from some other videos I've seen. Maybe it has something to do with the skills.
forever? like what is so interesting to do there that will make you want to play forever?
@@Voltomess I'm a big fan of the first dying light. The game is extremely fun in terms of gameplay, the physics of this game, the way your weapon hits feel and the way everything plays out just makes me come back to it everytime.
There's also alot of content and a dlc like the following which could've been a whole different game but is here as a dlc. It adds vehicles, new skill trees and a better story along with new ways to play the game. This DLC is my favorite out of any game I know.
Killing zombies in this game is a feeling you will never get from any other game, it's amazing how they react to the hits and respond with good animations of them backing and the physics are really good on the bodies in this game.
The game also has good attention to detail which makes it seem more alive.
There are bullet ricochets (the game does not tell about this and these can kill npcs)
Incredible detail to sound, Its hard to explain but it's done really well
And it has an incredible environment.
Story aside this game is perfect in almost every way atleast for me. It's the only game I have that I didn't ever uninstall from my computer.
@@Voltomess the parcour, the thrill from getting chased, the coop aspect.
The setting is just perfect for me.
Been playing DL2 for around 20 hours now, and this video explains my experience to almost 100%, great content!
same! I have 30 hours ingame and this is a mirror of my thoughts :D
Oh bro, just you wait for the ending of the game, it legit made me hate the game. One of the worst writing I have ever experienced, its ME3 original endings all over again.
@@ChaosPrototypeIX ☹️ that's unfortunate. I loved how the first one ended in both OG and The following... Still in the beginning though..
@@ChaosPrototypeIX we don’t play dl2 for the story
@@ChaosPrototypeIX nah I liked the ending
The original is more darker with that zombie apocalypse charm into it, without talking about the night and the random zombie screams, man it was so good playing this game
Literally. In dl1 just standing still and listening to the dreadful zombie moans and screams in the atmosphere was terrifying by itself. Nostalgia for the original will always hold a special place in my heart
So far from what I’m seeing in videos and comments, Dying light 1 is better. I loved the 1st one. This new one seems pretty good. Some positives and negative’s. But, I think I’ll wait for more reviews and a price drop.
Dying light 2 much better than the first got it on launch totally worth it
2 is way better trust me my friend.
Broke
In 2 the parkour is a lot more prevalent in the endgame (grappling hook isn't OP, but still super good), and the traversal is cranked to 11 as far as immersion goes. Long jumps, gliding, trampolines, everything plus the kitchen sink.
Combat is a bit scaled back and simplified to a level system (rather than what the player has the balls for), and they adopted a weapon durability system where there is no repairing. There's also no guns (with a lame excuse), nor Be The Zombie, and no cars.
2 still has that little bit of the easter egg and subtle goofiness that the first game had, but the soundtrack is a lot more lacking in direction. The first game was solid, techno synth type stuff with a Middle Eastern twist, consistent. 2's soundtrack is a bit all over the place, with some techno synth, orchestras, and a much more bass boosted tone. It's one of the smaller details, but it's part of the experience. It's still good music, just much more variable.
Biggest thing for me personally is difficulty, 2 night time isn't any different from day time, really. No volatiles on patrol, it's bright enough to see without the flashlight, there's no real reason to be stealthy. It doesn't feel dangerous like the first game. 2 is also just easier in general, because there's a parry system, and like I said, it's simplified. Not only does it have a level system, enemy humans start to look like robots real quick, because they only spam like 2 moves and they all move exactly the same. The zombies are just like the first game.
Overall, it's a fairly different game, but it still feels like Dying Light at its core. They did a good job at explaining the cliff hanger in a way that was satisfying, and they gave us a replayable adventure with branching paths. It's definitely not something to replace the first game with, but they can coexist just fine.
@@yep9620 u don’t have a job
Flashlight casting shadows was considered one of the selling points of Doom 3 and The Chronicles of Riddick, released 18 years ago. It's mind-blowing that with all these ray tracing and brand new lighting techniques, we have actually kinda regressed back.
The issue with that is dynamic lights that are made by a char can cause massive performance decrease these days due to how much more detailed things are now. Especially in games with tons of transparency or a multiplayer game, it can cause even more issues. Those games didn't have much detail in the world itself like we are expected to have now.
Ray tracing helps this out a lot, but it's not utilized here cause it's not fully adopted yet. We have definitely not regressed if you look at games that do utilize what we are capable of like metro exodus with it's enhanced ray tracing.
@@Brown614 Sounds like a legit answer/reason, thanks for this. I was wondering about this as well. I remember thinking the same thing with a lot of other games. Half life for example had shadows i think. How your flashlight casting shadows made such a massive difference in how spooky things can look. Though they could add it as an extra option for the pc version maby? I wonder how much extra calculation power it would cost if you would activate it. Like how much would your fps drop by something like this.
I think it could be a gameplay choice. In an enclosed area with all the objects casting shadows it would be hard to see, especially in dense rooms. Cleary its not a technical issue. Maybe adding it as an option.
The difference is that those old games used stencil shadows or some other fairly cheap(by today's standards) technique. Today with RT, shadows are much more realistic and physically accurate. It's more expensive but looks way better. I hope Techland adds shadow casting to the flashlight in a future patch because yeah, it adds a lot to the horror mood.
Dying light 1 was the same way, in it’s early stages the game looked fairly plain and definitely not as pretty as it does now. We can hope future updates will make the game look alot more nostalgic than new
Dying Light 2 map seems like a better parkour playground. But some animations feel clunky. Sounds design and color grading feels like a step back from previous game horror and immersive atmosphere.
Probably because they wanted to go with a more stylistic design instead of that disgusting washed out tone that the original had, most definitely gonna get this one
@@royolaniye6643 yeah but that was amazing about the first one. There was blood and gore in the streets, the zombies sounded terrifying and the volatiles felt like real mutated monsters that chased you and made you feel genuine panic. I tried the new game and im quite sad it doesnt feel the same. Its a fun zombie game I guess.
The sound design is the main issue for me. It's much more muted and less dynamic in DL2
Literally agree, i love DL 1 but i'm dissapointed with this sequel :(
@@royolaniye6643 Stylizing is a matter of consistency more than anything else. The vivid color palette, surreal cityscape, and dramatic visual effects contrasts *greatly* with the horror elements, gore, and dark interiors. This game does a lot, having a consistent style isn't one of them.
For me personally, it feels like dying light 2's graphics took a turn to be more cartoony than the first one, and the art style feels similar to the walking dead for some reason. And then for the parkour aspect, dying light 2 has more variety of moves you can do than the 1st one, but the parkour feels like it has no weight and this is so apparent when you jump from a high place to a trash pile/car because in dying light 1 you can feel the fall, but in dying light 2 it just feels like a normal jump. And all of those are caused by bad sound design, and bad effects.
I agree, everytime you jump in dl2 u feel like u have moon gravity and parkour just feels a bit too bouncy for my liking.
I thought I was the only one who noticed this
I got major back for blood vibes
i also feel like the parkour is sticky and hard to jump and doesnt feel as fluid as DL
But the moon gravity is a good thing, it makes you feel like you could reach anywhere
The first game the nighttime gameplay looks so much better honestly. The overal atmospher in general just nails the whole b movie survival horror zombie land vibe. The 2nd one seems to have prettier graphics and a lot of added bells and whistles.
That’s because DL1 was the beginning of the breakout, DL2 is set many years in the future and people have learnt how to live with it. It’s going to be a prettier game, it’s supposed to. I’ve played this from start to finish, there’s nothing that I’d change!
As for the night time gameplay, it’s literally a lot better than the original. I feel safer in a dark zone at night than I do roaming the streets and rooftops 😂
also one small gripe and something I kinda hate is, in the second one the scan looks too much like a cod scan grenade or something instead of what the first one did, which looked way better and added to the atmosphere instead of detracting from it. I get in the second one they'd be harder to see since they need to contrast the bright colors but still
@@maverickeu8390 nice opinion but it makes no sense
@@maverickeu8390 the night time in dl2 is not really night time it feels bright in dl it gives you chills when 2 or 3 virals coming right at you
@@maverickeu8390 Things were to get WORSE, not better.
Fantastic video as usual Nick, here's hoping they'll fix the way zombies are impacted by the spikes- it looks a lil wonky lol
Thank you! And agreed. I brought it up to the developers and they should have it in a list of things they need to tweak/fix. I think they knew it was a bug and are trying to get it working.
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I'm going to stick with dying light 1 don't like the maps and the damage tags above the character
@@Nick930 If they fix it I will be very impressed. I've been waiting for this game for years and one of the few games I've ever pre-ordered
@@Shrender You can disable the health bars
The 2nd one is not nearly as scary, though a night chase is pretty cool sounding with all the zombies busting through windows and slamming open doors.
You ever wonder why they did that? Players in dying light 1 dropped the game because they were too scared to go out during the night.
@@mrjim7565 the night chase in 1 was scaey and in 2 very action which i love
@@mrjim7565 it really wasn't that scary though. DL2 is more scary for me tbh
@@mrjim7565 as long as I had my legendary hatchet I wasn’t scared of anything
@@stareatme9983 as long as I have my grappling hook rope I ain't scared of anything hahaha
One thing we can ALL absolutely agree on is that DL1 had an amazing soundtrack. I could listen to that music 24/7
Man it gave me chills. Idk why one of my favourite soundtracks of all time
Lol it used to give me headaches and i stopped playing because of it.
It did, but playing DL2 rn and the soundtrack is phenomenal. Easily one of the best aspects of the game.
@@RealItsFrostyIce that song that played during the chase with the main villain was awesome
I've been playing DL2 with a friend and the best way I can describe it 1 step forward 2 steps back. DL2 looks better and the parkour feels good, but DL1 feels better in terms of sound design, physics, combat, and ambiance/horror factor. DL2 just feels like a Ubisoft game with parkour and zombies.
"DL2 just feels like a Ubisoft game with parkour and zombies." MEGA BASED
After climbing my first windmill (ugh) I thought "Far Cry with Zombies". That´s okay, but a shame compared to the first game.
Really I found the combat with more human refreshing as the old human combat was kind of janky and you just ended up shooting them or they shot you and it got boring. Now you have to fight them with melee, they’re smarter, and you fight a lot more humans. 90% of the time you’re fighting biters in dying light 1 that do the same lunge attack and take 10 swings to kill unless you’ve got massively op weapons at the end of the game. Also the grappling hook was so brokenly good it kinda ruined free running, it just seemed like you were just running to wait for it to recharge. All my opinion just wanted to drop my 2 cents.
@@jacksong.5982 yeah I don’t understand why ppl talk down on the combat. These NPCS really dodge your kicks, and the combat you unlock is cool
Exactly
Almost 10+ hours in DL2, gotta say… volatiles are nonexistent, only come out during chase level 3, they’re so cartoonish, they’re more annoying than frightening compared to DL1, I gotta purposely stay till chase level 3 just to encounter them, was kind of a let down tbh.
Completely agree, hiding in a DL1 rooftop at night listening to volatiles. Creepy asf
I think the animation in Dying Light 2 are worse than 1.
@@R3VENG4NCE Was always a fun time though. The mad sprints and dashs to a safe zone, only to run out as the coast cleared traversing the slums/city by memory because there was so little functional lighting. Making good use of the bonus XP.
@@daefaron your right
I hate how you don’t really have a good change to kill them.
I get 1 hit by them all the time. I can almost kill them but suddenly they glitch out and the UV light stops working on them
The second game looks great but why does every game have to be an RPG now, immersion is where the first game shined and it sucks to see it thrown away here.
This isn't an rpg
@@mycelia_ow I think what he meant to say is that the atmosphere looks too much like a fantasy, while DL1 looked more like an altered reality, which greatly influences immersion. I personally love fantasy, but in Dying Light it’s just a little weird to see the cartoonish colour scheme.
@@mycelia_ow it literally is an rpg like game
@@void7837 literally in the same exact ways as the first game, so that's where I'm confused with the criticism.
@@MrPatrickbuit though there are people who didn't like the atmosphere of the first game. didn't this same studio make dead island? that was pretty colourful as well. I'm sure there would be people complaining no matter which art direction they took with DL2, if you're on PC then ReShade to the rescue. I have my colours set to look like the first game. Unfortunately that's all that can be changed really is just the graphics.
Hearing the volatiles in DL1 is so much scarier. Hearing their footsteps and their breating right behind you feels like youre actually in the game
I feel like with DL1 theres a lot more of a panic feeling when playing, and DL2 seems more friendly and toned down.
You're right. I just finished DL2, and honestly...DL1 is just better, and a lot more tense. The few new additions to DL2 don't make up for the things they took away. No guns, none of the cool drop down attacks (the "Stomp" skill sucks), the global traps, the guts cover system, the ultra populated zombie areas, like the big bridge...there's just so much missing. And while volatiles have come back in DL2, they are so damn tough that on the few occasions you DO encounter them, you're very likely to get ripped apart in 2 hits. DL2 needs a LOT of content that I don't think we're going to get to be on the same level as the first game. And you very rarely feel in danger at night due to the over abundance of easily accessible UV zones. Literally everyone has access to massive UV lamps and the electricity to power them for some reason. Instead of just having the large communal spaces like the Bazaar or PK ship, you can find a UV safezone within 100-150m in any direction no problem.
@Groat its more friendly you never played the first one
@Groat 🤓
@Groat So you haven’t played the first game?
@Groat So tell me how DL2 is scarier than DL1
I'm at 100 hours into the 2nd one now. The first difference I noticed (gameplay wise) was the less crunchy combat. I know that reviews hated the combat in DL1 when it came out, but I loved it. Being able to see your character target specific body parts was just great. The 2nd uses some default animations when you hit specific areas like torso/legs..etc. Also Aiden doesn't get a quick escape which is borderline rage inducing.
also zombies become gorilla glue during chases
You’re able to use the UV bar as a quick escape technically
@@rancestorm there was a different quick escape before?
I mean their heads, and limbs are able to get sliced off, pretty gore
@@Ibroketherubber in DL1 you can unlock a skill that you can press a button and Crane can immediately escape a grab from the zombie
The only problem I have with Dying Light 2 visually is that the way Aiden swings his weapons lacks some of the oomph that Crane had
The whole game is lacking. In every category.
Parkour isn’t floaty at all but yeah the combat is heartbreaking it feels 10x more floaty then it looks especially compared to 1 make it 100 x floaty
Melee looks weird, like I’m not even close to hitting the enemy with a bat but I do.
After an hour or two with the game, gotta say I don’t really mind the weapon swings as much as I thought I would
THANK YOU. That was exactly what I was thinking. The realistic swings were incredible in DL1
DL1 looks smoother to me, atmosphere is tenser and environment feels real, almost like you're not playing in a fictional city but in a recreation of existing and familiar place, lighting and graphics are stunning and sound design is far superior. Overall probably the best gaming experience I've ever had in any single player game and I also wanted it to never end.
The synth soundtrack of the original was what made the game even more mindblowing
I miss this too!
Dying Light 2 has a really unique soundtrack too, threw me off initially but I dig it
@@badboje6040 the instrumentation is dope for the new songs and old redone songs
100%. The synth made the whole game feel like a dream at times
It was depressing af i could not stop crying
Trust me I love DL2 but something about DL1 just makes it look and feel better
dl1 feels more real than 2 and the almost "photorealistic" graphics in the first game were cool as well
It's the complete lack of camera motion - and I am so sad nobody is talking about this. In DL1, the camera would tilt, sway and bop when walking, running, jumping and climbing. In DL2, there is almost no camera motion at all - even though the graphics have much higher fidelity, everything ends up looking just fake and lifeless. It does not look like parkour camera footage at all - they completely lost that Go Pro / Hardcore Henry feel of DL1. And I understand DL1 caused motion sickness for a lot of players - but they could have kept the realistic, confusing camera motion that made DL1 so immersive, and provided an accessibility option to turn it off. For me, it means I probably won't even play DL2.
@@RasmusSchultz dl1 is so much better dl2 is a massive disappointment for me
The atmosphere , the theme .
I don’t know why, but DL 1 looks much better for me….Much more clear etc….
dl2 is pretty blurry and low res for me even though i have it set to max settings. and for some reason it runs worse in fullscreen than in windowed-borderless
Yes
I hope you guys don't choose your women like you choose your visuals, because you all have beer goggles. You guys sound like you don't have ray tracing capable cards. After experiencing ray tracing, the difference is painfully obvious to me. The lighting in the first Dying Light looks all flat and fake, as if there's an invisible light source somewhere.
@@lonewolf333 did you miss the part in the video where the flashlight doesn't cast shadows?
@@lonewolf333buddy pulled the no rtx card because muh puddles reflection is better. Bullshit
I loved the first game because it felt like a scary survivor game where every zombie was dangerous. The new one feels like a generic action game (but it's still a good game).
itd not s good game, it feels cheap and wacky
@@DJdevil319finally someone that understands how I feel
@@DJdevil319it’s still a good game, just different from the first dying light
Different in quality for sure @@fishfood8711
I just love the feel of the first one more, more dark and quiet with tons of zombies coming after you where you were dropped in a city full of people hiding in the shadows
I feel like the combat has taken a step back in feel and animations. The zombies and humans don't seem to react as uniquely to being hit in certain areas as much as the last game. They way enemies react to physics in general seems to have taken a step back. The damage on their bodies(blood, broken/missing limbs) served as a better visual than the health bars imo. The way I felt like the player could strategically target certain body parts to have added effects seems to be all but gone as well. The attacks feel less weighted and crunchy with less of an impact, the absence of x-rays adds to this as well. Overall the combat feels much less strategic and brutal other than addition of the new moves. Which is a shame because that was one of my favorite parts of the original.
Edit: The kick also feels much less effective and without it's weight as well at least early one.
I highly agree, it is still there but not as fluid, especially with blunt weapon physics. The animations seem more stilted. It used to be more dynamic before, (the blending between physics and and animations) now many hits just trigger a simple animation. The biggest downgrade
DL1 had way more refinement and detail, in both the sound design and combat. For example - in the original Dying Light if you wanted to decapitate a zombie while they were on the ground it was best if you physically positioned yourself to the side of them, the game would intuitively recognize what you were attempting to do, and Crane would chop down vertically with a perfect swing.
Just an experiment - try cutting the limbs off of fallen/dead zombies in the first game vs the second, and you'll immediately notice the difference. The combat was way more intuitive in DL1, at least in terms of fighting zombies. Also, a lot of the new combat maneuvers are just goofy. The stomp in DL1 was so raw and satisfying - in DL2 you jump in the air like a circus goofball and land on their head with both feet.
The zombies behave differently, since ragdoll is only activated AFTER zombie is dead, they use animations instead during combat:
at 2:48 during the DL2 footage, you can see the same animation is played twice (watch closely), when kicking the zombie at the roof.
in DL1 the arms flail due to physics, here it's because it's animation, this is also why they don't slip off the roof
My biggest gripe about this gem of a game
@@NikitoUmata stop, its not a gem if its a downgrade
Loved the horror feel of the first game, the 2nd one doesn't have that atmospheric horror to it.
The lighting, color pallet, and sound design are all off base. Also there's a lot of "satisfying" details missing. At the start of the sound design portion of the video - you can hear all of the unique differences in the original Dying Light when running on different roof surfaces. The transition from steel to clay shingles ext...
Everything in the original game was very satisfying, with the exception of the gunplay
can you elaborate on the horror feeling and the lack thereof in the 2nd game?
I think the original is scary as hell, the difference between day and night is crazy
@@johannesschmitz6370 it's much brighter, the volatiles essentially don't exist, the numbber of zombies are so far down you'll never really feel "outnumbered", only ever "outgunned", and the second part is only because they doubled down no the rpg system. it's also extremely grindy, and basically everything is locked from the start, including, no joke, sprint. health and stamina are upgraded seperately, and you need like 4 levels into stamina to unlock sprinting, which, combined with the fact that, the skill point system, adn the leveling system, are completely seperate, magnifies the grind exponentially. in addition to all the parkour and combat you need to do for skill points, you need to run around finding the item's required to level up. yes, you read that right, you level up via items. in addition, certain activites require a certain level of stamina, or they are literally impossible, and the game tells you how much they need. overall, while the core combat and parkour is essentially the same, i find the game a downgrade, in everything except graphical fidelity, and even then the visual styling is less horror, more fantasy. i'm havnign fun drop kicking zombies, but even teh story is so bland i just started skipping it, and the parkour feels jank for some reason. not likely to spend more than a week playing it, maybe 2, and i played the first one for months when it came out, and more after the dlc.
@@Choryrth same! I just can’t believe ☹️ after 1 one they should just upgrade more things and make a new good story, but somehow game doesn’t feel better
I don’t mind the new lighting and coloring. Both games have their own style, reflecting their respective storyline. Dying Light tells the story of a desperate survivor surviving a brutal apocalypse. While this is still the case in Dying Light 2, the fact that it’s so far into the apocalypse allows the game to show the resurgence of life in the wake of the destruction. It really helps to accentuate the more stylized look the game seems to be going for, and is rather gorgeous.
Agreed
I agree, and disagree the art style felt something from the last of use though.
DL1 wasn't set in an apocalypse it was set in a quarantined city
@@requisthebigbrolicblackdud7352 I meant dying light 2
@@kingryeeye3812 u wasn't replying to you
I prefer the 1st one. Also the parkouring seems to have more weight in the first one, it looks too smooth and floaty in the second one. Also the look of Harran has just a special place for me. I will give DL2 a chance when it’s on sale.
Play the game yourself,they say it's not as floaty as you think when you play it yourself
Dying light 2 has realistic gravity. Dying light one didnt
@@dutchNFSGaming dl1 had realistic gravity besides the bin bags and cars
@@willyman4510 Dl2 has gravity at 9.8m/s which is irl. Dl1 was like double that
Parkour actually isn’t floaty but the combat is heartbreakingly bad
Personally I like dying light 1 more for three reasons
1. You feel faster when running in dl1 when compared to 2
2. The night is not nearly as terrifying, in 1 im scared shitless of the night its pitch black with volatiles everywhere,
in the new game i can chill at night on roofs and not care about the night cause nothing can hurt me unless im at chase lvl 3
3. The lighting, the grimness darker tones of 1 suits the game alot better
To be fair, unless you were unlucky you could chill on a roof in the first game and be fine at night, and idk about you but I find the nights in DL2 scarier. First game, you got some flares or Survivor level 12 and escaping a chase or even avoiding them was cake, but its nowhere near as easy to do so in DL2. Plus, the night in the first game was kind of easy. Even Volatiles could be cakewalks with some flares, a UV light, and some patience, be you level 5 or Legend 250. The movement feels better to me in DL2, and the way the music builds as you string longer parkour combos and how Aiden hypes himself with it just feels so amazing compared to the first game.
@@sethseth916 pretty sure you can get uv lamps even faster in DL2 than flares in DL1 which imo are even better than flares
In the sound comparison,you should have included music as Dying Light 2 has extremely good music that reacts to your parkour,combat and other events dynamically
wow i love that style of music .. niiiiiice
@@moremaga1776 poopy 💩
@@moremaga1776 dl2 depends on a lot of its music and for good reason,its amazing. Some scenes without it are simply bland tho the open world can be experienced without it pretty fine.
@@moremaga1776 the ambient sound of dl 1 with the music turned off was phenomenal.
The only thing I don't like about the dl2 sound is the repetitive grunting every time you jump, seems like they just have a few grunt sounds that play *every* time you do a parkour move, really gotta tone it down imo
I feel like the footsteps and parkour sound effects were more apparent in the first game, (though perhaps the volume was just lower in the clips from the second game). Art direction-wise I really liked the style of the first game, but the new style differentiates the series more from Dead Island's more dreary look. The number of zombies crowding the streets at night seems absolutely terrifying in the second game, where as in the first the focus was mainly the volatiles which felt more like you were being hunted down by unrelenting beasts - enhanced by the truly dark environment.
You’re absolutely right about the mixing of the sound. The parkour sounds in DL2 are underwhelming. Unfortunately the amount of zombies on the streets at night means nothing, since you generally have. No reason to ever interact with them.
Hm, overall it seems like a lot of improvements, but there's still a few downgrades and one that really disappointed me.
1: Enemies getting kicked out of roofs, not stumbling certainly seems slightly worse. (It will get fixed, so that's great.)
2: Zombies not getting impaled. (It will get fixed, so that's great.)
3: Why did they get rid of the effect when you jumped off of a high building in DL1? It was great, and I miss it.
4 and the one that disappointed me the most: There is a sad lack of wind sounds when you parkour in DL2.
Overall it was only 4 things that are downgrades so in general the second game looks and feels better but I really wish these four would get fixed.
Some of these things are not "downgrades" but confirmed bugs. I've reached out to techland regarding Point 1 & 2 here and they confirmed that it's on a list of things they're trying to fix.
@@Nick930 Oh that's great. I'm very happy about that, although the other 2 are still things I miss.
First I don’t why they removed the falling from building affect. Second m, I”m guessing they remove the wind for dynamic parkour music where every time you start parkour the music company you throughout until you stop
The falling from building effect still exists you just need to get higher to see it by the way
@@literallyvergil1686 Glad to hear that it still in the game.
The only thing i have to say about the second game is this. GET THE VOLATILES OUT ON THE STREET AT NIGHT! THEY ARE LITTURALY ONE OF THE SELLINGPOINTS OF THE DL SERIES!
hmm idk about that they are alot more op in dl2 but i think it could work with stealth
@@user-wi7iy2me7y yeah more op indeed but they should be more prominent mabye not as crazy as the first game but atleast around the different darkzones would be nice and one every now and then in the streets too just to make their precense known
@@kristianphilipkarlsen4830 I do agrea on your words ,the volatile is LITERALY, THE THEAM OF THE GAME .
i liked the first game, becose it wase a horror, which maked it a masterpice in the first place.
theas type of games is meant to be a HORROR not leser horror.
I love the Harran slum map in DL1. One of my favourite maps of any game. The atmosphere and setting of DL2 just isn't impressing me.
So it's not just me who thinks this then lol
@Squant true
@Squant true. the dl2 city is just so much better and more fun to move around
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe the dl2 city is horrible for freerunning if you start on the ground you have to try 10 different buildinhs to get on top again it just doesnt fit for a game like dying light
@@ihx7 ole villedor is best for free running. The city makes you use the glider a lot.
Dying light 1 is away better than Dying light 2. The demo of Dying light 2 from 2018 was like Dying light 1 but the devs changed to a "Fortnite" thing. Metacritic says it all, PC platform Dying light 1 has 87, Dying light 2 has 77, and User score is worse.
I hope Techland has regreted and in the next Dying light they come back to the Original one, Good Night and Good Luck.
I do prefer the darker atmosphere in dying light 1. But as long as it's mod friendly I wouldn't be surprised if it'd be possible to mod darker nights or better UI elements.
this! literally the only thing that it needs.
Uhh, it's called Gamma, and you should probably put it at 9 or so like I have. It's darker than the first. Way darker.
“Mod darker nights” bro does no one in this comment section have access to settings
@@zacmcculloch721 yo i dont want to turn the entire day into nightime either. I want a balance and some changes to the graphics just look at GTA Enbs you will get what i mean.
@@kls1836 Dude, gamma at 9/20 makes daylight super bright and night super dark. It's perfect. The game balances it out really well. Don't need external modifications.
I'll be honest the first game looks better however the environment density is impressive in the sequel.
I kinda disagree. The first game has a much more recognizable style. U can look at it and go like "oh damn that looks cool i wanna play it. Wait thats dying light?". The second game has that but in a bigger scale, and i think thats what puts it a bit below it. As great as it feels, i personally loved the grounded feel of Harran in the first game, but rhe second game certainly looks much better. Just a matter of preference
No, it doesn't, after ending the first one and jumping to the second, you can clearly see the vast improvements on every aspect and how immersive it is. Not to forget the first entry is 7 years old and still holds remarkably well
@@3XPLOSlV3 i agree someone commented before but with these uis and tone in visuals it remineds me of ubisoft games but better lighting albeit a downgrade in overall tone.
not really
@@kls1836 oof, "reminds me of ubisoft games", talk about a huge insult.
Yeah first thing I noticed was the crappy ragdoll. I really hope they fix it. It seems like they simplified the things that mattered. The way he swings the weapon… it seems like he’s swinging a feather instead of something heavy. Dying light one had a very satisfying combat and it seems like they went the opposite direction
they probably will fix it, considering it’s one of the best things in the first game
Really? Huh I guess it's because this are low-levelled enemies. Since to me I experienced it that enemies mostly ragdoll near death or upon received a fatal hit where they die on the attack.
They confirmed they were going to fix it
@@elesontan8429 Since when? I guess you just didn't get the drop kick or the break legs when slide-kicking until late in the game
@@AtomicWaffle Dying light 2 don't have slidekick skill, so no since I am not talking about Dying Light 1.
Dying Light 1 definitely captured the theme of the game. Night runs were much more terrifying and overall the game was more difficult. So far, in Dying Light 2, it seems to be focusing on the rpg element more than the horror element. Plethora of safe zones, night runs are fairly simple, and the chase system takes away a lot. The first one, you knew volatiles were coming in any event you were seen. You could hear them screeching and howling all over the place when you were noticed. In the second game, you have to progress through the chase levels before you have to worry about them. Also, another eye glaring difference is the number of NPCs. In DL1, you rarely had encounters while exploring. It really felt like the infected had taken over and the streets were lifeless. In DL2, there's NPCs everywhere roaming around. Rather they are being attacked, attacking you, or just chilling near a fire, it seems like you are running into them everywhere and it takes away from the loneliness you felt in the first game that made the game even more terrifying. Dying Light 1 is much more in tuned with it's title.
I loved the music to the first Dying Light, its got a real old school zombie movie feel to it.
I really hope this new game doesn't do away with what made the first game so great.
Yeah agree. DL's music is what I think a modern Lucio Fulci movie would sound like. Got that really great old school sound.
from what I've heard it's like the first game but sort of with a "rotting" feel to it, like the record it's playing from is broken. sounds pretty cool imo
Sadly game is dissapointing for me :(
While I miss Pawel’s music, so far from what I heard in game Olivier does a good job bringing the world of dying light 2 to life. The new music still shares the synth elements in the first ost, but in my opinion it sounds a lot more broken/gritty along with this unexplainable depth especially with the ambient tracks.
The music in DL2 is epic ngl
I'm curious as to how much and how good interiors are in this game, it was one of my favorite aspects of dl1. The feeling of hiding through these places that people lived in and turning a corner and see a zombie standing there, not to mention they felt very realistic and lived in
There alot of interiors in this game more do than the previous one
That’s one of the things DL2 improves on quite a bit
Yeah hopefully they look as good as bf2042's!
Downgrade, there's barely any furniture, anything you can search through besides some bags. I haven't experienced the second part of the map yet, but the first one has pretty bad interioirs
@@Oscar-to4po so true!!
Nick doing gods works as always, with impeccable timing. Thanks for the informative entertainment man!
I think we can all agree DL1 is a gem, ive played the game countless hours, replayed the campaign, grinded legend levels, and i can say I've enjoyed every second of it!
The style of the first one is sooo much better/immersive.
Buuuuutttt I'd prefer the gameplay more but I agree with you.
Is it just me or does hitting the zombies in DL1 feels more impactful with tangible stutters and has that crunchy feedback feeling and the zombies don't stagger easily and even pounce forward on you making it harder to slice them and even the kick has a bit of rumbling and vibration to it as it's impacting on the zombie. And when you fall from a high point, the wind speed sound increases and the camera shakes with blur as you're falling down. While in DL2, I dunno the combat feels more "game-ish" in a way, almost shallow as you're slicing air with minimal feedback and the zombies aren't as aggressive as the first game (it's like they're easy xp givers) and the kick is underwhelming with barely any rumbling feedback and there's no visible effect on screen as you're falling down, you just fall down with no wind or camera effect. And the graphics in DL1 have more "POP" to them, dark, contrasty, intense and atmospheric with that lens flare (aggressive lens flare from the sun as it blinds you and even from fire and electricity too), film grain effect and lite motion blur, you could really feel unease, tense and stressed out because you didn't want to go outside on the streets because there were hundreds of undead waiting around every corner and even crowded on the streets and open areas (like squares, intersections etc...). The graphics in DL2 lose that bit, no more film grain, no more contrasty atmospheric tension-filled look, no more lite motion blur and no more "fear of the zombies" feeling. It now has multiple layers of color (which is appreciated but strangely out of place since this isn't supposed to be a happy colorful world, this is still a zombie plague we're talking about here), you move and interact in a more "static" way if you get what i mean, there's no heavy movement with heavy motion (as a normal human being would have) like in the first game, the image is clean and clear with barely any visible aggressive effects for physicality (like how it flashes black and white when you get hit or fall down or how the weapon slice snap-rebounds off the zombie as the screen shakes).
To me it seems that Techland made DL1 as the tough, grounded and physical zombie apocalypse game, but made DL2 as the shallow fun zombie Role Playing Game (that is different from what Techland set out to make with the first game)
yep, DL2 has been updated to fit the current society. Alot of the reviews down talk DL1, but it was a great game, better from what I have seen of the second so far, but I do not like to speak so soon because I loved CP and had no issues running it.
@@A42yearoldARAB Mods will bring back dark night and less colorfull world and also put more zombie outstide but yeah it feel like they wanted to be more catchy and less violent or horror to bring "casual gamer" that "just want to have fun" so they choose this way.. But i still think that there are some improvement to and i'll only judge it after doing the full story and see if we do not have some hidden thing that they doesn't show on the Ad
@@A42yearoldARAB it has been..it would have an article called “Dying Light 2: too violent?”, we can’t have anything fun these days 😂
think the same, but to be fair That look like a gamedesign choice. The game is more smooth and better réactivity for get better combat system and parkour
Yeah, I feel like the sheer "weight" and feedback from your hits connecting with the zombies especially is a step back. In DL1 they stumbled around and reacted in a realistic way to your hits, in DL2 it looks like the amount of animations and detectable hits is turned down. Kind of underwhelming imo.
What I don't like in the DyingLight 2 is the amount of hud on the screen especially the triggered hud, feels like I'm playing Survival mode. Hope we can adjust the hud options.
quite some time ago they said that you can modify the HUD entirely
Fortunately
@@vry6946 the game got the community split, you love it, you hate it, just like the first game fortunately, instead of a steep hating spree.
yes you can deactivate parts of the hud. I played for 15h now :)
Zombie Health
Human Health
Night Timer
Stamina Bar
etc etc
As a sound designer, thank you for a really great comparison of audio between the two. Most people just glaze over audio as if its not important at all. You gave multiple contexts and each with a very good direct counter part comparison. I was hoping however that you might give opinions and thoughts on any different audio mechanics that may have been created or removed from Dying Light 2, and what audio mechanics you liked in general in both games.
Regardless thank you for a really nice comparison, and well presented and edited video. :)
So...... what is YOUR opinion as a sound designer of the audio between the two?
Personally I think DL2 sound is a bit better, but I can't describe it.
Two things I've really noticed are a bit of a downgrade to me is the lighting at night and the amount of zombies out.. We all remember having to go install uv lights on the bridge in the first game...sooooo many zombies..
I always took that as having several runners try to do the lights, thus drawing more zombies to that location.
@@mars4835 yeah that does make sense!!! I just always thought it was cuz that was an exit to the city and people all got overran there trying to escape
@@TheSaltyFlamingo that could also add to it! They’re making noise, drawing in infected, probably a number that hid it. Boom. Massive area of heavy infected!
@@mars4835 exactly!!! It's environmental storytelling at its finest
2:35-3:10
It’s getting so tiresome… that was a HUGE part of the fun in the first one.
Edit: 11:00 Don’t you love how UA-cam won’t let you do your job to its fullest extent?
This what scares me the most
The thing that really drew me to Dying light 1 and made it one of my top 5 favorite games, was the fact it reminded me so much of dead island. The physics, the ridiculousness at times, lighting, sound, atmosphere. I truly do enjoy Dying light 2 but it lacks that same nostalgic feeling. It is immersive, atmospheric, fun etc but it takes itself a bit more serious than dying light 1 did. One of the biggest complaints I have is with the physics or lack of for that matter. I really wish developers would stop downgrading and start upgrading from previous titles. There is no reason why Dying light 2 should lack a lot of what made dying light 1 so successful and popular. You have a template of what has proven to work but for some reason someone decided that it didn't all of a sudden? lol. Blows my mind.
Dying Light is QUITE different from Dead Island though. Same devs, but the combat is ages better in Dead Island to the point DL1 feels like a downgrade. The mobility in DL is the only thing better imo, as well as the story telling which sucked in both Dead Islands. The gunplay is a big upgrade too, but lack variety of guns. I didn't play the second game yet, but I hope it is better.
The same creators of dead island are the ones who made both of these games
You made several great points. Hopefully the devs will get feedback and hopefully they knock their next one out of the ballpark. I'm super excited for dead island 2 but we all been let down before. Here's to hoping.
I still haven’t bought DL2 because they changed so many of the foundations that made DL1 so good (from almost every review I’ve seen at least).
A dev did an interview where he said they were toning down the danger and anxiety inducing chases and atmosphere at night because some people found it too difficult. I instantly lost interest from then on, despite DL1 being one of my favourite games.
They tried to appeal to as many casual players as possible and ended up alienating the core players.
Trying to make a game for everyone often leads to making a game for nobody. Such a shame in this case.
@@stanettiels7367You should at least try DL2 broskie.
For some reason the zombies in dl1 felt… strong, like the dl2 ones feel weak and bare while the dl1 ones feel more meaty and just better
Yep you keep hittin pg and hitting them with your max damage weapon and they still don’t die
Can't believe they didn't realize there's something wrong with the missing flashlight shadow. They even showcased it multiple times in their trailers where the flashlight doesn't cast any shadows on the zombies. That looks horrible and absurd at the same time considering they made the effort to implement so many ray tracing effects.
I never noticed and is it that big of a deal? It doesn't change the gameplay
@@BakedSkeleton420 it's just for look. And I like it.
Not want to derail but L4D has flashlight shadow and B4B+Killing Floor doesn't
I noticed that too but I wasn’t sure if it was a bug or intentional. Makes the game look like crap and ruins the raytraced indoor lighting. I hope they fix it soon.
@@ngkn2008able In all fairness to Killing Floor, I personally feel it's closer to cod zombies than l4d
@@BakedSkeleton420 It's about actually caring enough about their game to put in those details
I absolutely HATE the nighttime timer. Night time was stressful enough for me in the first game. Putting a timer on it has just completely killed my motivation to even play at night. I want to play at my own pace, not what the game dictates.
Honestly i belive its under utilised, immunity boosters are everywhere and take like what 2 seconds to use?
@@pineappleguy676 I just hate timers in general. it's artificial stress. The threat is not being fast enough, not something you can overcome or neutralize in totality. Plus it forces a specific kind of playstyle, which in a freeroam single-player open world game I'm against pigeon-holeing play styles.
I hate that I have to always take some of the cure stuff idk what's it's called for Aiden and Aiden runs out or stamina so fast it's really annoying
Dying Light 1 is such a masterpiece, like bruh its a game released in 2015
Yeah but it was updated and patched for like 6 years
I feel the fluid combat and gameplay has taken a hit in dying light 2. I hope more smoothness comes in performing combat and searching bodies or doing anything. To me dying light's gameplay requires a serious patch.
It feels soooo clunky and float compared to the first game
@@Cat_IsOnFire ngl i love both of those just being able to make big jumps and hit feeling like power attacking biters with 1 2h hammer is so good
it annoys me that every Fight in DL2 feels the same. Hit/Parry/Block and again and again and again....Combat wise i prefer the good ol´DL1
@@TheChiefSteve Yes, I also love the more complex combat system of hit, dodge, repeat of DL1, or perhaps the sophisticated aim at the head and shoot mechanic.
@@TheChiefSteve Also forgot to mention the hard to master style of combat against zombies. It took me years learning to press mouse 1 repeatedly at head level hoping I get a critical hit.
The night was so terrifying on DL1. Doesn't seem like that in DL2. I especially noticed that in the sound comparison.
I agree with that statement.
After 15 hours in, I was never scared during the night, quite the opposite of first one, where I remember first night to this day
@@Mart1n002 Techland fuckers put you on a level 2-3 character with very low stamina and against Volatiles that 3-shot you. That first night in the game is probably one of the most stressful events in a videogame and I fucking love it.
@@ExNihiloNihilFit319 exactly, but here, you have to wait like 5 minutes outside before the chase get's up to higher levels and starts to get interesting, seems like a downgrade to me :D
DL2 does not seem as dark at night than DL1 did. Its night and it seems like you can still see pretty well. In DL1 if you have no flashlight at night you were screwed
I made a point to turn down my gamma a bit and I’m enjoying the darker change it’s having. Flashlight becomes much mandatory.
DL2 has night time missions so probably more important you can see.
@@MrEL91N The problem here is not the brightness neither gamma that you can change. The problem is that in DL1 you had a darker and scarier atmosphere and you had to adapt to survive in the beginning. Now you don't need to adapt as much as you needed in the first game.
@@ExNihiloNihilFit319 I agree the atmosphere isn’t the same but turning down the gamma does make night missions feel more impactful because you can longer see without it. Unless you’re on the roofs of course.
Original Dying Light was way ahead of its time. And it's a horror game. Unfortunately the 2nd title is a little bit plastic and doesn't bring the same feeling in player that you are in an apocaliptic situation
You spitting a really good sense of comparison between the previous vs new I always watch your show and it's good
I don't understand how the physics engine, mechanics and animations are worse than the game they released 7 years ago.
It really feels like they just threw this together, really focused on ray tracing, graphics, visual upgrades... that were all used to just sell the game. Much like other releases recently, Dying Light 2 looks amazing, yet surprisingly fails to deliver. I'm gonna keep playing DL1, and wait a year or more for them to actually finish this game, if they want to do that.
That’s what I’m saying bro. 7 years lol. We have better tech and equipment and after playing last night on ps5. It looks ugly, like bad. Gravity and parkour have a different feel, combat and animations are lacking big time and it’s all just an eye sore. All they had to do was give us more of DL1. They worked so hard on it over the years to make it what it is today and with DL2 all of that is gone and then some. They went backwards.
The parkour is the same if not better and with additional skills.
The video literaly said the opposite except for the zombies not connecting to the spikes or falling down but that was literaly the only thing which can be updated pretty easily.
I prefer a more realistic less rpg with numbers approach. The first game did it better in this regard imo
I really liked how night was in the first dying light. With how dark it got and the fact that volatiles weren't locked behind chase level 3 made the game truly terrifying. In dying light 2 though with the more bluish light and there being no threat of volatiles just appearing it just feels like a harder day time when night should feel completely different
Just the atmosphere overall made night scarier. I think for dying light 2 they should keep the blue ish lighting but make it a little darker and instead of volatiles being locked behind a chase they should roam the rooftops
@@hydgecko6803 they roam now and there’s a new volitile variant if u haven’t played in some time👌
What happened to getting a fully developed game? Day 1 patches are not a trend we should allow to continue. I have anticipated this game for 6+ years w/ my buddies and to see this is definitely upsetting. I don't appreciate the shift to RPG mechanics, the lack of ambient noise is virtually gone, and why is the environment pretty? Give me the drab/gritty reality of DL1
lol what? A day 1 patch is perfectly fine. In order to meet distribution, they need to send out discs about 4 weeks ahead of release. In that time they can still fine tune the experience and patch it in by release.
Would you prefer developers rush to meet a deadline and stumble out of the gate?
@@Nick930Vicious crunch culture is all these developers know, them failing is inevitable. I'm saying I would prefer if they developed a complete game rather than having to implement fixes and patches so early. Review distribution and ad spam overhype these games, so when it is time to review these games they often receive painfully average scores.
1. Dying light has always been an RPG game whether you noticed it or not. Enemies get stronger as you do, you have a skill tree, different weapons that have different stats, etc.
2. Idk what you're talking about. In the gameplays I've seen you can still hear ambience
3. I much prefer the new environment over the ugly nothing but grey environment of dying light 1.
@@Oilupimtherein5 THANK YOU...I thought I was crazy the grey theme was a massive turn off for me and the environment was cool couldn't help but feel cloistered especially with in the bigger cities. Glad they went with this hope they improve more cant wait for it to drop midnight
@@Oilupimtherein5 Enemies got stronger depending on story progression, not your skill level idiot. The beginning of the game you get pale zombies, and will continue to have so until a meeting with rais. The next significant change in zombies lvl up is when you reach old town the first time. It was never based on your level system, it was story based
This really like dead space. In the first dead space, the sound, lighting, atmosphere aswell as the somewhat slower but tense gameplay really makes it creepy and heart pounding, just like dying light 1, while dead space 2 moved towards being a more action and cinematic and less horror experience, just like dying light 2.
Atleast that's what ive deducted from watching gameplay of it so far
That’s exactly it
if that’s true the 3rd game is gonna be not well liked at all
and thats a bad thing
If you want to compare dead Space ..compare dead Space 1 vs dead Space 3..
dead Space 2 had biggest imporvment in all.aspects
Dead space 2 was good af, it was better than 1 on a lot of aspects tbh. Dead space 1 was ground breaking with the horror aspect and dead space 2 just built off that.
Although it's not covered in the video here, I'm pretty disappointed by the next-gen console performance options. Hopefully Techland can optimize the game moving forward.
Bad performance on ps5? Sheesh
Isn’t there a performance mode? Or does it just not work? I haven’t gotten the game yet
@@airstuck3929 The Performance is great, never goes below 60fps, the problem is the 1080p resolution and no HDR.
If Sony & AMD can push through their FSR GPU chip patch things will change for all games on the platform. I think we have to wait for Mark Cerny to make a keynote about its implementation. FSR was announced last summer.
PS5 and Xbox series x have really poor performance.
Not to mention it runs at 1080p 60fps
Looks terrible at times when you’re looking out into the distance.
Put it on quality mode and the game runs at like 15fps and the motion blur is cancer.
Put it on resolution mode and the game literally goes autistic.
15:51 Can’t hear you over the sound of my automatic crossbow tearing those things apart in 6-10 shots in under 30 seconds.
One thing I hope you touched on is the soundtrack, I loved the soundtrack in DL1 and its why I go back to play it.
Wondering around in the empty streets of Harran with the chilling soundtrack just adds so much to the post apocalyptic theme.
Being honest I've played DL2 for two hours or so and sadly the soundtrack doesn't even come close to the same vibes as DL1
So far I LOVE DL2 but I agree. The music In DL1 was perfect, it really set the vibe
And the nights of DL1, oh, I never got used to them at all!! How could you get used to walking in pitch black darkness with heavy rain fall and the only source of light being lightening that aluminates a volatile waiting for you, no game ever scares you with it's atmosphere like DL1
It seems like DL2 has lost the original's atmosphere and here's my opinion why:
- The visuals seem less realistic and more stylized than those of DL1, this is because of things like added contrast and a less dark nighttime
- Volatiles are not as prominent at night, CAMON!! THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS IN DL1!!
- Sound design seems to have had a major step back as DL2 is missing stuff like the wind noise while running and the distant zombie screams from the first one
- Why are there more trees in rooftops than in the streets? Takes away from the realism as well
Even thought these might seem like small changes, when added all up they end up making DL2 less immersive and less scary than DL1.
Not gonna lies I might have to disagree with you on this one.
-I like the visual despite it not realistic. It seem more unique with tree on the rooftops.
-Second the new chase system kinda make the night much more harder and engaging especially now it not just volatiles chasing you(and some virals). Also in some newer gameplay you could see volatile still roaming around the free roam or at chase level 1.
-For sound design I think it major step up despite it doesn’t have this feel of wind blowing while running. For example when you start doing parkour instead of wind blowing, the music will company while you parkour and it reacts to your certain right jump,far jump and etc.
-You can still hear distance zombie(or the howler)screaming or just survivor screaming at night
-I think dying light 2 is scary but maybe in some environments not scary at the first one but they are some part they are way more scary than the first. I’ll say it 50/50
-I’ll say this game is way more immersion than dying light 1(despite the tree on rooftop lol)
That overall my opinion hope we can agree on something
The only thing I believe dying light 2 doesn’t do as good as the original is the tension that is created when it’s nighttime. Other than that dying light 2 does everything else better.
I feel the same, for about 7 years difference, the graphics are not impressive at all, not a fan of this over saturated/cartoon/bloom style.
@@dudebropog8750 Actually, the Trees thing is quite immersive if you consider that the survivors use the rooftops to plant trees and other things.
I think its better that the open world is not full of volatiles at night. They made night time exploration a chore in DL1. It wasn't even worth going out because of how hard volatiles were to kill and how many of them there were.
I think its better to reserve volatiles for interiors and higher chase levels (like the swat teams in GTA) so the player can still feel encouraged to explore the world during the night.
I have faith that, with the 5 years of content we'll be receiving, dying light 2 may eventually surpass dying light 1. So far, dying light 2 is currently a disappointing but fun sequel.
For me it's not disappointing at all what about it disappointed you?
It’s not disappointing at all to me. Great and creepy game.
@@devilzdandruff9199 its a good game it jus dropped ppl act like the game wont get updates
@@2xraylee Why would we judge a game based on updates that might come out instead of what actually is out? Also, not a single AAA title that wasn’t cyberpunk has had good post launch support in the last few years, so I wouldn’t be too hopeful if I were you.
@@MrPatrickbuit the game is good for me the only annoying glitch is u cant play co op but tech land is fixing it i dont mind the game is fun
Dying Light 1 was leagues better, they focused on the atmosphere, exploration/discovery, world building, and the fear aspect
Dying Light 2 focuses on the main story, gameplay activities, and loot chasing - but ends up being more shallow and generic, also taking away the unique style, feel, and atmosphere that made Dying Light what it was
I’ve played DL1 over and over and the shreaks, and screams still freak me out when running from zombies.
So true bro....it really happen to depress me a lot
I think removal of guns is a step back. Guns in DL1 always ran out fast and they sucked until the end of the game when you got the powerful one's. The combat looks upgraded, sad they did not continue the story with the first one minus the general idea. Would like to know what happened to everyone. I like the look of DL1 better, DL2 looks so cartoony. As the review stated, night time in the first really made you double think about being out lol.
Guns wouldn't fit the kind of game it is. The whole game is basically like humanity has devolved so it makes sense for advanced weapons like that not being available
They finished the story in The Following
yea the guns just weren't great in that game, it's so much better being more melee focused. it fits so well.
The following finished the story of the first game.
it reminds me of mirrors edge catalyst where they also upgraded melee but took away guns
This feels kind of similar to the case with watch dogs, The 1st game was gritty and more dark while the 2nd one is a lot more colorful and vibrant for some reason, Wish they kept the same type of vibe but other then that it seems there's lots of improvements. Although the running animation in the 2nd game doesn't look great
The first was badly received, very. The second not as bad but still was IN some way. Let's not speak on legion. As dying light 1 was good but had a lot downsides. 2 looking it is going down the same route which I am totally fine with.
@@sci-fiknight8084 We don't speak of Legion.
@@sci-fiknight8084 sorry but dying light 1 was much better in quality then WD2.
@@sci-fiknight8084 Wd1 was really underrated. Sure it was downgraded but it was still fun nonetheless
@@kls1836 to half the community, the other half thinks other wise
There’s nothing like running out of stamina when 10+ volatiles are chasing you lol. That’s something the second game is missing, and I see all these comments talking about that. The ambience and tone of the first game is unbeatable. You truly do feel alone in a giant two part city. And in my opinion, I believe that the followings map is even creepier. I love the second game, and I think the story is even stronger, but the first game is unbeatable. I’ve gone through Dying Light 1 10+ times and i’ve 100%’d it 2 or 3 times so i’ve had my fair share of time with the game. I absolutely love this series, same with the Dead Island series. There’s something really special with all of these games, but especially with the first Dying Light.
There is a zombie in dying light one when you hit him with a weapon he beg you to stop like "Please no no!!" And them he come back to act like a normal zombie. That was my personal favorite thing in the game
Virals, the newly infected that sprint. They pretend to be human (maybe they are human, trapped inside a rotting body) then continue trying to kill you. Just a small detail that makes DL1 scary.
@@DezDies they're still Turning, that's why they talk, not pretending anything, kinda like rabies, you're still kinda you, but you can't fight the disease
@@phantomxpotato3184 yeah, you can hear some even say "kill me" or "help me" DL1 was a lot more gritty than 2.
I definitely prefer the first game. The gritty look and the more realistic freerun (DL2 has double jump, and low gravity style movements)
The zombies behave differently, since ragdoll is only activated AFTER zombie is dead, they use animations instead during combat:
at 2:48 during the DL2 footage, you can see the same animation is played twice (watch closely), when kicking the zombie at the roof.
in DL1 the arms flail due to physics, here it's because it's animation, this is also why they don't slip off the roof
DL1 was down right terrifying.. especially the chase from volatile