Honestly I wish Framework partnered with Cherry to have a mechanical laptop keyboard. I currently have an Alienware laptop and the Cherry keyboard genuinely feels great to type on, easily the best laptop keyboard I've used. I've tried out other gaming laptop keyboards and even MacBook keyboards at Best Buy and Walmart, and I feel like those are too mushy for my liking.
Yeah, and better battery life, quieter fans, and cheaper parts so that it made sense to upgrade it. Just the motherboard and GPU replacement cost as much as a Legion 5 that outperforms the Framework.
8:27 just wanna say my t14 g1 after daily use for 4 years hasn't given me any problems. not that I push this thing to it's limits very often but I've used it enough the battery it came with is well past 1.5k cycles at 70% battery health. i guess I'm just saying it's reliable and the screen issues might vary from case to case, with repairs always being an option. i love this thing
aChair dropping a new vid knowing damn-well everyone in the discord-server are gonna find out solely through the Server's true owner reminding us to drink water (love your cinematography btw)
I absolutely love your content, its a shame about your subscribers. It's almost a ritual to me at this point. Your editing style to relaxing voice, its cozy and a vibe. Keep up the amazing work man!
You are lucky to have the silver-aluminum model...Unfortunately the black model is made out of plastic and feel really bad whenever you have to lift the laptop. Every single time I hear squeaky plastic and the whole thing feels like a chromebook. T480 is miles ahead in terms of build quality. T14 gen 5 in my eyes in not an upgrade, but rather lenovo's attempt to sell us a cheaper laptop only because of 2 RAM slots? Also, despite countless complaints on their forum and on reddit, they still soldered ports onto the motherboard and then bragged about repairability, lol.
@@jkhuv87t5 Material 90% post-consumer content (PCC) recycled plastic used in speaker enclosure 90% PCC recycled plastic used in battery enclosure 90% PCC recycled plastic used in adapter 85% PCC plastic used in backlit keycaps 70% PCC plastic used in non-backlit keycaps 50% recycled aluminum used in top (A) cover in Luna Grey color 48% PCC recycled plastic used in display side (B) 45 % PCC recycled plastic used in bottom (D) cover with WWAN 30% PCC recycled plastic used in bottom (D) cover with WLAN 30% PCC recycled plastic used in top (A) cover in Eclipse Black color Plastic-free, recyclable packaging
I bought a p51. It isnt a new model. But i upgraded it with 64gb ram and 2tb storage. Boy is now a beast and i think its better than latest intel macbook pro. I will change to 4tb ssd later.
Still rocking my T-420 with an i7...I upgraded it to 1 2TB - 2.5" SSD, and 16GB of RAM...its running Fedora Linux and its kept up with my demands in regards to learning Python and Full Stack Web Development. I am in the market for upgrading it eventually....you say the T680 is good...I might have to check them out. Thanks for the info bro...
i wonder how it compares to framework, probably will be the closest 1:1 comparison it sucks that I'm trying to upgrade from my current daily driver and nothing in the market really satisfies me. Framework is probably the closest but they'll probably never do a lunarlake/strix refresh.
For the record - the refurbished T14 Gen 5 is being sold for *$655* on Lenovo's US Outlet store. I think that for this price it blows any ThinkPad, used or new, out of the water. And you also get 1 year warranty to boot.
I have the 3rd gen Thinkpad yoga X1, paid USD 3000+ in 2018, use it everyday and still feels like new. Was the only good option with 2 Thunderbolts back then to be paired with an eGPU
Please test a Thinkpad P1 gen 2 or 3 with an OLED screen. With a t2000 (1650 equivalent) it may be the best 450$ used laptop. Though you need to force the CPU at a lower than 45W power target to double the battery life from 4 to 8 hours.
I have a T495 thats given many problems over the last three years of ownership (bought new during COVID). I keep flipping between a framework, newer Thinkpad, or older Thinkpad (T480 or similar era Thinkpad) as a replacement.
This model using Core Ultra 7 155U, and running Windows 10? I don't know did you just replaced the OS or what 😅. Well I did have Ideapad run Both Win11 and Win10 for difference use 😅
i have lot of 2010s old thinkpad (all buy second handed) and they still rocking strong i have X220 (which used by my little brother rightnow) X260 and T440 (Dual Battery 24+72 wh for traveling mode) E430 (max upgrade dual gpu with quadcore CPU, 16 gb ram) for some editing with use handbrake n capcut my P50 for my main workstation (it can do almost everything smothly for rendering and video editing with Quadro m2000m and i7 6820QM) well, we miss that sturdy looking thinkpad in this generation become more slim in newer generation
My T14 G1 (AMD) burns battery even when off (and in 'linux' sleep mode). I leave it off for a week and it's down to half. Lenovo's BIOS is clearly doing something when it should be off. Fully updated BIOS. Even leaving it overnight and you are down from 100 to 90%. Lenovo refuses to acknowledge the problem and always blames nonsensical reasons such as "drivers".
Same thing happen to my V14 G2, if I'm not mistaken it was also the bios, because after I turned off quick boot and sleep mode from Lenovo Vantage it still drain battery despite being inactive
This is a long known issue from back then when it was released. I am not sure if there's any resolution for it. I was following the discussion on the freedesktops Gitlab instance and have never continue reading for 2 years now. I have since been avoiding any AMD powered laptops to run Linux and be concerned with the lack of development from the manufacturer since they don't QA everything down properly.
Thats the NSA checking in on all the Thinkpad owners 😂 Not gonna act like some linux user and say we need physical disconnect from battery.... but.... yeah it would be nice to turn off radios and battery with actual tactile switches you can see.
@@jameskirk3 Jokes aside, the problem mainly lies with their BIOS programmers whom are still quite new and had to deal with spaghetti implementation of the power states. Lenovo US had someone experienced sent to Lenovo China because they weren't able to reproduce the battery leak at first. He himself attempted to fix it but since the BIOS is a borrowed mess they always reuse from precious gen of which is not a good indication of R&D and QA. Ironically, this issue does not seem to affect other brands or even their Ideapad lines and it have since been difficult for this one person to convince his upper managements to do something about it.
i just got a t14g2, thankfully has all of the "legacy" things i care about with the kb, touchpad buttons and ports while being noticably fancier than a t480, and with a beefed up igpu
If you like this laptop, you should really try the P14s Gen 5 Intel (not the AMD). This ThinkPad is the GOAT. Everything from build quality, to the 3k IPS 14.5" display is above and beyond all "modern" Thinkpads imo. It sips battery, has excellent performance, and all around has that great ThinkPad fit and feel. And I don't know what the hell they did to the keyboard but its' significantly better than any other "modern" TP keyboards I've used. So if you can get your hands on a P14s Gen 5 Intel, I'd highly recommend checking it out and I say this as an avid ThinkPad user and collector! lol
The company where i work provided me with a Lenovo L15 Gen2 with AMD Ryzen5 pro 4650U with 16GB in RAM, for daily internet vpn vdi rdp work use is great... i never have tested on games or benchmark but it's for work so does not mind. Great product... it remembers me to the old dell in the old times...
What are you planning on doing when Win10 goes eol? I saw your Linux vid forever ago and you do have fair points but would you consider trying again in october 2025?
Most likely, I'll just suck it up and go to win11. There would be a higher chance of me going to MacOS rather than Linux if I really can't stand windows 11
@@aChairLeg Have you checked out Windows 10 LTSC at all? It's pretty cool and has security updates until 2032 (although hopefully Chrome / Firefox lasts until then on it too.)
@aChairLeg I can't go back to Windows or macOS. And this is coming from somebody who dealt with Windows 8/8.1 & 10 but HATED Windows 11 so much it kicked off a switch to Linux full-time.
$800 for a 16" refurbished version of this with really good battery life. (T16 Gen 3 with Intel Ultra 125u, and 400 nits.) I'll miss the keyboard and build of my W530, but for that price I think it's not going to be an issue.
T480 is the last model of Lenovo I would personally buy. I'm tired of this dumb trend of soldered ram and storage that's anti-repair and promotion of e-waste.
I've got both the T480 and the X1E G3. Both have good build quality but X1 is better. Yeah, one RAM chip is soldered though while there is an expansion slot. T480 will be used by GF but I'm hesitant to do it because it's like a museum piece now.
I’ve got a p14 g5 intel model on the way. Paid $1000 for a 1TB/64GB/155h/a500/120hz screen. I considered an AMD g5 but better battery, better build quality. It’ll be perfect to supplement my m4 max MacBook that’s my primary machine.
After the sanction, computer parts export for Chinese market or industries has been strictly limited. Chinese importers have to work around via alternative routes. The plastic mold companies provided them for producing assemblies are no more. As the end of the day, all the molds have to work without adjustment. Or they can smuggle the molds or technicians as well as restricted instruments.
@@blackjack8957Heh, my T25 came from somebody whose partner worked at the Japanese ThinkPad factory. Yes, even back in the IBM days. (I live near the IBM headquarters in NY.)
It is litteraly a gaming laptop but without a gpu. Upgradable ram was in gaming laptops for ages (i guess it is rare in 14 inch ones but there are some options). At 1700 dollars it offers nothing unique
@zsamps now we have things like the amd 370 CPU which is used in both thinner gaming laptops and Ultrabooks. Plus, the h series is usually far more powerful with little efficiency cost
If Lenovo would go back to the X60 keyboard and form factor with a small icon based touch screen bar under the 2.8k main NON TOUCH screen, they'd kill it. Put thunderbolt in it, TB drives, a great CPU, and a solid dGPU, theyd kill it.
My problem with Thinkpads is that they are too expensive in my country like for the same price I can get the thinkpad in this video with ultra 5 125U 16 ram and 512ssd or I can get HP Omen 16 with 13900HX and 4060 32gb of ram and even 1TB of storage like is it just too expensive here for it’s expensive everywhere else too ? I know HP Omen is probably nowhere close to being as reliable and longliving as a Thinkpad but does that really justify this price point ? What do they do to make this do expensive anyways
I got broken Thinkpads lying around, they are not that bulletproof. When they work they are nice. HP business class is reliable and probably better than ThinkPad but the screens and keyboard sucks. Just go with HP in your case.
Pretty sure many ThinkPad users are switching to M1 Macs now and just forget about repairability. Without the sturdy build, a lesser keyboard and an average screen, what does a T-series offer anyway?
@@cameronbosch1213 I bought my X1E two months ago, the guy sold his company laptop and it was replaced with a MacBook. This is near top of the line ThinkPad from 2021. The critical part is the screen which has to be superb, followed by performance and then keyboard and probably battery. Repairability sadly is far down the line because they get these laptops new and the warranty covers everything. They don't even think about it.
What's with the lenovo chinapad glaze? laptops in this category should be able to do more than just "omg guys it replace ram battery thermal paste 10/10", zbooks and precisions can have their GPU replaced, some zbooks lets u replace the battery with no screws, the hinges on those is perfect, that is to just name a few, ofc these must have replaceable keyboards too, and most zbooks and precisions have their chassis made out of a magnesium alloy not chinapad plastic. Pls if u do an in-depth review, consider all the parts that are replaceable, consider the hinge durability like flex angle, force to open, etc, cuz this is still far worse than the t480 or hell the ones used on the ISS
I've had about 5-6 ThinkPads and now an HP Elitebook, i just cannot get used to the FN key placement and yeah i know it can be changed from the BIOS but it still says FN on the key itself and always mess it up
You can upgrade the ram, unless the seller forgot to mention the BIOS is password locked and if you open the case itll brick itself. Because the seller also doesn't have the password.
Expertbook replaced Thinkpad for me a loooong time ago. More sturdy and ergonomic design, better software support and functionality (really hate Lenovo Vantage), and somehow waaaay cheaper than newer Thinkpad (at least in my country). The only downside is the screen is not really good for its price
I had to replace my trusty E14 g2 AMD back in the middle of this year because I had to spend most of my time in the hospital and it kept dying on me. I tried my best to find a really good, portable, windows laptop with great battery life, but it just didn't exist. I ended up moving to a MacBook Air M3, which had better specs than the T14 I was looking for and it was actually cheaper. why. Lenovo. why
I lost faith in thinkpad/Lenovo. Their firmware is terrible. There’s an issue with the X1C6 thunderbolt charging and their solution was to nerf the thunderbolt port to prevent any charging which makes it frustrating to use with a thunderbolt dock as it won’t charge. Had to explain and argue my case to support for months and I did not get a resolution. I think the best alternative now for upgradability etc is Framework. Lenovo has ruined thinkpads and their legendary support.
Also since I heard that Lenovo has start permanently locking Ryzen processors to their motherboards, I try to avoid them as much as possible. I repair laptops, and the amount of Lenovo laptops that come in…..
What lenovo can't do right now is the battery. Yes thinkpads are worse than what they were but they are still great except for the battery. Hp, dell and asus can fit a bigger battery in a smaller chassis.
@@aChairLeg Yeah no I mean... one of them do mean something for *me* so... that's why I asked this question. I wondered if they were hand-picked by you or not because of that.
155U has a much weaker GPU than 155H. That's in contrast to AMD's 7840U which is more or less the same as the 7840HS. Also, the user-replaceable DDR5 is a decent chunk slower than its soldered counterpart, which, again, affects the GPU on these APU-based laptops.
Funny that you make a video on this, I feel like this laptop is cursed. The laptop CPUs that came out since this was released are so much better... Both HX 370 and Core Ultra Series 2. However, for both of those new chips RAM will not be replacable (in fact, on core Ultra Series 2 the memory is part of the chip), so T14 G6 will not be repairable again.
Or they'll wait for Arrow Lake, which was just announced and will have upgradable RAM options. And don't forget that for Intel, Lunar Lake is a one off. They won't be doing on package RAM again.
the new thinkpads are worse build. we are using lenovo laptops for a long time now and they are getting worse and cheaper each time. they just break all the time you have to spend double the price to get a good product as it used to be in the past. and the cooling desing and fan courve is questionable
Felt cheap, battery life was horrible, performance wasn't great. Maybe it was just me, but I really did not like that laptop at all. The T14 Gen 1 is significantly better IMO, but I've gotten somewhat picky with my laptops as I've started to use and rely on them more
Laptop landscape is a horrid mess for a lot of people right now. Windows(x86) laptops usually lack or suffer from one or more of the following: battery life, quality of screen, speakers, keyboard, touchpad, lack of high speed ports, poor chassis build, noise/thermals and repairability is often neglected just like Apple products. Apple otoh completely rips people off with ram and storage upgrades but their laptops are otherwise good quality and balanced machines with fewer major software issues like windows laptops suffer from such as high battery drain in sleep mode. Lenovo isn't helping the Thinkpad brand because for the price even Razer builds higher quality and performance laptops and that's telling something about your business model of not appealing to consumers at all.
You kids and your new fangled lipservicelaptops with what passes for repairability. The T440P is the last great ThinkPad. It is the definition of what Lenovo has lost and what it needs to return to.
I'd say the T480 (not ths T480s) was the last good one, because it had the replaceable and hotswappable battery. I miss that... My T25 (T470 25th anniversary edition) is near perfect.
@@TrashPC_lol join the membership program and you too can have early access (maybe probably) Or just be the owner of "his" Discord server, that worked out for me :D
i WILL be using my i7 t480 untill the heat death of the universe
did you upgrade it? bought a refurbished one yesterday
So until August 12 2036?
I bought mine for 200 euros and pretty much everything needs to be replaced including the slightly damaged screen but we'll get there
@@bljet4388 got 1 for 300 fully refurbished i7 8th gen with 8gb RAM. Battery is Rip. But the Upgrade will be crazy with 64gb and Display replacement
@@Segudy-gt7dm yeah I upgraded mine, got 16gb of ddr4 to make it 2x16 in total, new thermal paste, new t490 low powered display, new 61++ battery
This is a more realistic framework for those of us outside the US, thank you Lenovo for keeping replaceable components
Bringing back*
@@jkhuv87t5 indeed. if there wasn't a backlash from the community they wouldn't have gone back to removable memory and storage
Her: why are you so good?
Him: I only use the trackpoint.
LMAO
I should call her....
Second thought, she's crazy. Nah.
LOLLMAO
guess who leaves his trackpad untouched for weeks...😅
"i hate to sound like a linux user but physical buttons do reign supreme above all else"
xD
Physical buttons for the Win 🏆
I will NEVER buy a Tesla...
@@edwardfletcher7790 based.
Off topic but physical buttons are THE reason I still use a handheld calculator daily for math than my phone's calculator app.
@@Proferk same.
calcs go hard
What do physical buttons have to do with being a Linux user?
Nice review. If only the Framework had a Thinkpad keeb.
And (personal preference) the matte black rubber finish.
Honestly I wish Framework partnered with Cherry to have a mechanical laptop keyboard. I currently have an Alienware laptop and the Cherry keyboard genuinely feels great to type on, easily the best laptop keyboard I've used.
I've tried out other gaming laptop keyboards and even MacBook keyboards at Best Buy and Walmart, and I feel like those are too mushy for my liking.
You can just ask them to add it at some point...
@@ctrl_x1770 that would be nice. Maybe a future Framework model could have a more Thinkpad oriented keyboard. I'd totally be onboard with that.
Yeah, and better battery life, quieter fans, and cheaper parts so that it made sense to upgrade it. Just the motherboard and GPU replacement cost as much as a Legion 5 that outperforms the Framework.
Nice to have you back ! Hope you're doing well.
Let's hope the EU market gets this one in a few years xD
how did bro comment 9 hours ago
become a member and find out
@@aChairLegmembers r kool
8:27 just wanna say my t14 g1 after daily use for 4 years hasn't given me any problems. not that I push this thing to it's limits very often but I've used it enough the battery it came with is well past 1.5k cycles at 70% battery health. i guess I'm just saying it's reliable and the screen issues might vary from case to case, with repairs always being an option. i love this thing
aChair dropping a new vid knowing damn-well everyone in the discord-server are gonna find out solely through the Server's true owner reminding us to drink water (love your cinematography btw)
So it's a cross between a modern aluminum, well-built laptop cross with a thinkpad DNA and it's repairable. Honestly seems p good.
the mac forshadowing is very funny
Hell yeah
I absolutely love your content, its a shame about your subscribers. It's almost a ritual to me at this point. Your editing style to relaxing voice, its cozy and a vibe.
Keep up the amazing work man!
Shame about my subscribers? Did something happen to them? Anyways I appreciate it, glad you enjoy!
I know at least 3 people still using the t480s I made them buy and they still love it.
The gray/silver is nice, but I'll stick to my fingerprinty X1 Carbon. thanks for the vid:)
I have been using my t14 gen 1 with ryzen cpu. It has been my daily for years now. Got it open box for 750, and it was so worth it.
You are lucky to have the silver-aluminum model...Unfortunately the black model is made out of plastic and feel really bad whenever you have to lift the laptop. Every single time I hear squeaky plastic and the whole thing feels like a chromebook. T480 is miles ahead in terms of build quality. T14 gen 5 in my eyes in not an upgrade, but rather lenovo's attempt to sell us a cheaper laptop only because of 2 RAM slots? Also, despite countless complaints on their forum and on reddit, they still soldered ports onto the motherboard and then bragged about repairability, lol.
If I'm not wrong, only the cover on the grey T14 Gen 5 was aluminum, and everything else is plastic. Don't quote me on that though.
@@jkhuv87t5 Material
90% post-consumer content (PCC) recycled plastic used in speaker enclosure
90% PCC recycled plastic used in battery enclosure
90% PCC recycled plastic used in adapter
85% PCC plastic used in backlit keycaps
70% PCC plastic used in non-backlit keycaps
50% recycled aluminum used in top (A) cover in Luna Grey color
48% PCC recycled plastic used in display side (B)
45 % PCC recycled plastic used in bottom (D) cover with WWAN
30% PCC recycled plastic used in bottom (D) cover with WLAN
30% PCC recycled plastic used in top (A) cover in Eclipse Black color
Plastic-free, recyclable packaging
Can you recommend me alternatives? I want to get my first Thinkpad and i'm still confused with various models
I just put an m.2 and 8GB stick of RAM in my T440s and it's like a brand new laptop with Mabox Linux. Keep up the good work.
I bought a p51. It isnt a new model. But i upgraded it with 64gb ram and 2tb storage. Boy is now a beast and i think its better than latest intel macbook pro. I will change to 4tb ssd later.
I wish modern laptops had powerbridge, I got 96wh (more like 70 tho lmao, old batteries) of capacity in my "ultrabook" and it lasts me 2+ school days
Still rocking my T-420 with an i7...I upgraded it to 1 2TB - 2.5" SSD, and 16GB of RAM...its running Fedora Linux and its kept up with my demands in regards to learning Python and Full Stack Web Development. I am in the market for upgrading it eventually....you say the T680 is good...I might have to check them out. Thanks for the info bro...
That is cool, I had a T420 too with the same specs, but moved to a W520.
More RAM and cooling ftw lol
i wonder how it compares to framework, probably will be the closest 1:1 comparison
it sucks that I'm trying to upgrade from my current daily driver and nothing in the market really satisfies me. Framework is probably the closest but they'll probably never do a lunarlake/strix refresh.
I will continue to use my T490s until I have the budget for a Framework.
...yes im aware how my T490s has soldered in ram :((((
Modern Thinkpads are getting worse and worse.
They are not unique anymore :(
For the record - the refurbished T14 Gen 5 is being sold for *$655* on Lenovo's US Outlet store. I think that for this price it blows any ThinkPad, used or new, out of the water. And you also get 1 year warranty to boot.
Loving my 2023 Legion 7i Pro with RTX 4080 🔥
Is that fire emoji for how hot it gets?
@@grey.7828the legion’s cooling is pretty incredible
@@grey.7828😂😂
@grey.7828 if 80c max is hot, then yes.
I have the 3rd gen Thinkpad yoga X1, paid USD 3000+ in 2018, use it everyday and still feels like new. Was the only good option with 2 Thunderbolts back then to be paired with an eGPU
Nice vid mate
It's very similar to my thinkbook 14. The amount of replaceable parts is great and nothing is covered in glue :)
Please test a Thinkpad P1 gen 2 or 3 with an OLED screen. With a t2000 (1650 equivalent) it may be the best 450$ used laptop. Though you need to force the CPU at a lower than 45W power target to double the battery life from 4 to 8 hours.
That camera bump gives me Dell XPS M1210 vibes
I think it's neat
I have a T495 thats given many problems over the last three years of ownership (bought new during COVID). I keep flipping between a framework, newer Thinkpad, or older Thinkpad (T480 or similar era Thinkpad) as a replacement.
This model using Core Ultra 7 155U, and running Windows 10? I don't know did you just replaced the OS or what 😅.
Well I did have Ideapad run Both Win11 and Win10 for difference use 😅
i have lot of 2010s old thinkpad (all buy second handed) and they still rocking strong
i have X220 (which used by my little brother rightnow)
X260 and T440 (Dual Battery 24+72 wh for traveling mode)
E430 (max upgrade dual gpu with quadcore CPU, 16 gb ram) for some editing with use handbrake n capcut
my P50 for my main workstation (it can do almost everything smothly for rendering and video editing with Quadro m2000m and i7 6820QM)
well, we miss that sturdy looking thinkpad in this generation become more slim in newer generation
My T14 G1 (AMD) burns battery even when off (and in 'linux' sleep mode). I leave it off for a week and it's down to half. Lenovo's BIOS is clearly doing something when it should be off. Fully updated BIOS. Even leaving it overnight and you are down from 100 to 90%. Lenovo refuses to acknowledge the problem and always blames nonsensical reasons such as "drivers".
Same thing happen to my V14 G2, if I'm not mistaken it was also the bios, because after I turned off quick boot and sleep mode from Lenovo Vantage it still drain battery despite being inactive
I was just thinking the same thing. Why is this a problem? Very frustrating.
This is a long known issue from back then when it was released. I am not sure if there's any resolution for it. I was following the discussion on the freedesktops Gitlab instance and have never continue reading for 2 years now.
I have since been avoiding any AMD powered laptops to run Linux and be concerned with the lack of development from the manufacturer since they don't QA everything down properly.
Thats the NSA checking in on all the Thinkpad owners 😂
Not gonna act like some linux user and say we need physical disconnect from battery.... but.... yeah it would be nice to turn off radios and battery with actual tactile switches you can see.
@@jameskirk3 Jokes aside, the problem mainly lies with their BIOS programmers whom are still quite new and had to deal with spaghetti implementation of the power states.
Lenovo US had someone experienced sent to Lenovo China because they weren't able to reproduce the battery leak at first. He himself attempted to fix it but since the BIOS is a borrowed mess they always reuse from precious gen of which is not a good indication of R&D and QA.
Ironically, this issue does not seem to affect other brands or even their Ideapad lines and it have since been difficult for this one person to convince his upper managements to do something about it.
6:17 also you could see the 4g WWAN module port, where you could probably put something other than 4g modem if you want
i just got a t14g2, thankfully has all of the "legacy" things i care about with the kb, touchpad buttons and ports while being noticably fancier than a t480, and with a beefed up igpu
Thunderbolt. eGPU.
@@jameskirk3 i will get around to it but sadly can't find those cheap adapters in turkey rn
If you like this laptop, you should really try the P14s Gen 5 Intel (not the AMD). This ThinkPad is the GOAT. Everything from build quality, to the 3k IPS 14.5" display is above and beyond all "modern" Thinkpads imo. It sips battery, has excellent performance, and all around has that great ThinkPad fit and feel. And I don't know what the hell they did to the keyboard but its' significantly better than any other "modern" TP keyboards I've used. So if you can get your hands on a P14s Gen 5 Intel, I'd highly recommend checking it out and I say this as an avid ThinkPad user and collector! lol
The company where i work provided me with a Lenovo L15 Gen2 with AMD Ryzen5 pro 4650U with 16GB in RAM, for daily internet vpn vdi rdp work use is great... i never have tested on games or benchmark but it's for work so does not mind.
Great product... it remembers me to the old dell in the old times...
What are you planning on doing when Win10 goes eol? I saw your Linux vid forever ago and you do have fair points but would you consider trying again in october 2025?
Most likely, I'll just suck it up and go to win11. There would be a higher chance of me going to MacOS rather than Linux if I really can't stand windows 11
@@aChairLeg Have you checked out Windows 10 LTSC at all? It's pretty cool and has security updates until 2032 (although hopefully Chrome / Firefox lasts until then on it too.)
@@aChairLeg same here, Linux has too many problems for me to even consider right now
@aChairLeg I can't go back to Windows or macOS. And this is coming from somebody who dealt with Windows 8/8.1 & 10 but HATED Windows 11 so much it kicked off a switch to Linux full-time.
@@jeanclaudethedarklord6205 ...Like what? Please explain.
opinion on framework laptops?
it feels like nobody talks about the (debatably better) AMD counterpart to the T480... The A485
$800 for a 16" refurbished version of this with really good battery life. (T16 Gen 3 with Intel Ultra 125u, and 400 nits.)
I'll miss the keyboard and build of my W530, but for that price I think it's not going to be an issue.
T480 is the last model of Lenovo I would personally buy. I'm tired of this dumb trend of soldered ram and storage that's anti-repair and promotion of e-waste.
This model has upgradeable ram and storage. and a 2nd 42mm ssd slot. other than the soldered wifi this is as close to a modern T480 as it gets
I've got both the T480 and the X1E G3. Both have good build quality but X1 is better. Yeah, one RAM chip is soldered though while there is an expansion slot. T480 will be used by GF but I'm hesitant to do it because it's like a museum piece now.
I’ve got a p14 g5 intel model on the way. Paid $1000 for a 1TB/64GB/155h/a500/120hz screen. I considered an AMD g5 but better battery, better build quality. It’ll be perfect to supplement my m4 max MacBook that’s my primary machine.
lol I thought it was a bad review. You almost got me there
After the sanction, computer parts export for Chinese market or industries has been strictly limited. Chinese importers have to work around via alternative routes. The plastic mold companies provided them for producing assemblies are no more. As the end of the day, all the molds have to work without adjustment. Or they can smuggle the molds or technicians as well as restricted instruments.
Enough tarrifs and we either lose Thinkpads entirely, or we get a US plant. 😢
@@jameskirk3 Hope ThinkPad back to the IBM product. My favorite things are designed in the US and made in Japan.
@@blackjack8957Heh, my T25 came from somebody whose partner worked at the Japanese ThinkPad factory. Yes, even back in the IBM days. (I live near the IBM headquarters in NY.)
They'll have to pry my t480 from me, but when it finally dies (hopefully in a fair few years) this gives me hope
Love the vids and I'm a new fan. But can you share info on future vids regarding external monitors? EG how many and what frequency? Thanks!
Great channel bro but was the mario game you were playing in the video
How about giving chance to p14s gen5 INTEL?
We just got a bunch of these at work and I really want to use one myself
It is litteraly a gaming laptop but without a gpu. Upgradable ram was in gaming laptops for ages (i guess it is rare in 14 inch ones but there are some options).
At 1700 dollars it offers nothing unique
Uhm... gaming laptops don't use 15W U-series processors. This is in no way a gaming laptop.
@zsamps now we have things like the amd 370 CPU which is used in both thinner gaming laptops and Ultrabooks. Plus, the h series is usually far more powerful with little efficiency cost
If Lenovo would go back to the X60 keyboard and form factor with a small icon based touch screen bar under the 2.8k main NON TOUCH screen, they'd kill it. Put thunderbolt in it, TB drives, a great CPU, and a solid dGPU, theyd kill it.
I am getting a Panasonic lets note cf-mx5, should i look at a Lenovo t480 too?
Do a video on Framework 16 please
Best laptop I've used. Just waiting for a new GPU option.
This video convinced me to keep my x220 lol
My problem with Thinkpads is that they are too expensive in my country like for the same price I can get the thinkpad in this video with ultra 5 125U 16 ram and 512ssd or I can get HP Omen 16 with 13900HX and 4060 32gb of ram and even 1TB of storage like is it just too expensive here for it’s expensive everywhere else too ? I know HP Omen is probably nowhere close to being as reliable and longliving as a Thinkpad but does that really justify this price point ? What do they do to make this do expensive anyways
I got broken Thinkpads lying around, they are not that bulletproof. When they work they are nice. HP business class is reliable and probably better than ThinkPad but the screens and keyboard sucks. Just go with HP in your case.
im sold
P53/73 ThinkPads with rtx 5000 16gb cards are amazing.
Ive got a p52 p2000 and I DREAM that I get a P53 with an RTX card. It would be my laptop for life.
Pretty sure many ThinkPad users are switching to M1 Macs now and just forget about repairability. Without the sturdy build, a lesser keyboard and an average screen, what does a T-series offer anyway?
Repairability is still important. I'd disagree they'd switch to Apple Silicon; maybe Framework?
@@cameronbosch1213 I bought my X1E two months ago, the guy sold his company laptop and it was replaced with a MacBook. This is near top of the line ThinkPad from 2021.
The critical part is the screen which has to be superb, followed by performance and then keyboard and probably battery. Repairability sadly is far down the line because they get these laptops new and the warranty covers everything. They don't even think about it.
Please review MacBook Pro M4
What's with the lenovo chinapad glaze? laptops in this category should be able to do more than just "omg guys it replace ram battery thermal paste 10/10", zbooks and precisions can have their GPU replaced, some zbooks lets u replace the battery with no screws, the hinges on those is perfect, that is to just name a few, ofc these must have replaceable keyboards too, and most zbooks and precisions have their chassis made out of a magnesium alloy not chinapad plastic. Pls if u do an in-depth review, consider all the parts that are replaceable, consider the hinge durability like flex angle, force to open, etc, cuz this is still far worse than the t480 or hell the ones used on the ISS
I've had about 5-6 ThinkPads and now an HP Elitebook, i just cannot get used to the FN key placement and yeah i know it can be changed from the BIOS but it still says FN on the key itself and always mess it up
You can upgrade the ram, unless the seller forgot to mention the BIOS is password locked and if you open the case itll brick itself. Because the seller also doesn't have the password.
What? This is a brand new machine... LOL Self bricking for opeining the case? Where did you come up with this stuff?
Expertbook replaced Thinkpad for me a loooong time ago. More sturdy and ergonomic design, better software support and functionality (really hate Lenovo Vantage), and somehow waaaay cheaper than newer Thinkpad (at least in my country). The only downside is the screen is not really good for its price
T495? Or T495s? Cause one isn't the other, and with a ryzen 7 3700, it's legit.
T495. without the s.
Why are you touching the palmrest?
Lenovo currently fusing yoga series style to Thinkpad
I had to replace my trusty E14 g2 AMD back in the middle of this year because I had to spend most of my time in the hospital and it kept dying on me. I tried my best to find a really good, portable, windows laptop with great battery life, but it just didn't exist. I ended up moving to a MacBook Air M3, which had better specs than the T14 I was looking for and it was actually cheaper. why. Lenovo. why
I lost faith in thinkpad/Lenovo. Their firmware is terrible. There’s an issue with the X1C6 thunderbolt charging and their solution was to nerf the thunderbolt port to prevent any charging which makes it frustrating to use with a thunderbolt dock as it won’t charge. Had to explain and argue my case to support for months and I did not get a resolution. I think the best alternative now for upgradability etc is Framework. Lenovo has ruined thinkpads and their legendary support.
Yeah, Framework has been stellar. If you can get a refurbished model, they're great.
Is the refresh rate 60hz or 120hz? I read online that it can switch between the two but isn't advertised
A very large majority of the T14 G5s are equipped with one of the 1920x1200 60Hz displays, but at one point, Lenovo did offer a 2880x1800 120Hz OLED.
I want a new beast like the IBM 600X. And I still use my i5 Thinkpad L380 Yoga.
Also since I heard that Lenovo has start permanently locking Ryzen processors to their motherboards, I try to avoid them as much as possible. I repair laptops, and the amount of Lenovo laptops that come in…..
2:40 Me trying to figure out what the disclaimer on the top of the video ends with.
What lenovo can't do right now is the battery. Yes thinkpads are worse than what they were but they are still great except for the battery. Hp, dell and asus can fit a bigger battery in a smaller chassis.
I'm gonna ask a kinda strange question: were wallpapers in this video completely random and chosen by Windows itself?
Yep, I actually really like that feature
@@aChairLeg Yeah no I mean... one of them do mean something for *me* so... that's why I asked this question. I wondered if they were hand-picked by you or not because of that.
155U has a much weaker GPU than 155H. That's in contrast to AMD's 7840U which is more or less the same as the 7840HS.
Also, the user-replaceable DDR5 is a decent chunk slower than its soldered counterpart, which, again, affects the GPU on these APU-based laptops.
Funny that you make a video on this, I feel like this laptop is cursed. The laptop CPUs that came out since this was released are so much better... Both HX 370 and Core Ultra Series 2. However, for both of those new chips RAM will not be replacable (in fact, on core Ultra Series 2 the memory is part of the chip), so T14 G6 will not be repairable again.
Or they'll wait for Arrow Lake, which was just announced and will have upgradable RAM options. And don't forget that for Intel, Lunar Lake is a one off. They won't be doing on package RAM again.
the new thinkpads are worse build. we are using lenovo laptops for a long time now and they are getting worse and cheaper each time. they just break all the time you have to spend double the price to get a good product as it used to be in the past. and the cooling desing and fan courve is questionable
Why do you hate the T495? I have had it for a year and apart from battery life, everything else is nice.
Felt cheap, battery life was horrible, performance wasn't great. Maybe it was just me, but I really did not like that laptop at all. The T14 Gen 1 is significantly better IMO, but I've gotten somewhat picky with my laptops as I've started to use and rely on them more
ThinkPad is like toyota or casio they're very reliable
I stay away from Intel devices but AMD Think pads still hold the life
How are people commenting 9 hours ago if the video is no older than 13 minutes lol
How are you commenting if our eyes aren't real?
@@aChairLegHmmmm
thinkpad t480 + windows RDP (desktop) = the best solution
Buying a grey Thinkpad is like buying a yellow Ferrari, your opinion at this point doesn't count!!!
Damn....my Ferrari is yellow
@@aChairLegWell you buy a grey ThinkPad then 😂💯💯
I just bought a T14 G1 and now I'm worried, what issues are you having with your screen?
Laptop landscape is a horrid mess for a lot of people right now. Windows(x86) laptops usually lack or suffer from one or more of the following: battery life, quality of screen, speakers, keyboard, touchpad, lack of high speed ports, poor chassis build, noise/thermals and repairability is often neglected just like Apple products. Apple otoh completely rips people off with ram and storage upgrades but their laptops are otherwise good quality and balanced machines with fewer major software issues like windows laptops suffer from such as high battery drain in sleep mode. Lenovo isn't helping the Thinkpad brand because for the price even Razer builds higher quality and performance laptops and that's telling something about your business model of not appealing to consumers at all.
2024 was a horrible year for laptops. Hopefully laptop Arrow Lake will fix things in some ways.
Newer Thinkpad kinda meh
At this point, I might switch to thin gaming laptop
The ThinkPads went downhill when Lenovo was bought by a Chinese company, from then on you could see corners being cut.
Lenovo has been Chinese founded and internationally funded since forever...
Lenovo was always Chinese; they bought IBM's ThinkPad lineup to gain an international presense.
You kids and your new fangled lipservicelaptops with what passes for repairability.
The T440P is the last great ThinkPad. It is the definition of what Lenovo has lost and what it needs to return to.
I'd say the T480 (not ths T480s) was the last good one, because it had the replaceable and hotswappable battery. I miss that... My T25 (T470 25th anniversary edition) is near perfect.
I never understood 16:9 and now i canot understand 16:10! So why don't go 16:12 xD
they're starting to look more like the yoga model :/
Thinkpads haven't been good for like 10 years now
I'm using a thinkbook
thinkpad -> think different pad
jaja nmms me salio una publicidad de lenovo al principio
showing 0.5mm flex is just silly
nice video 👍
10 hours ago???? It came out 5 mins ago
nice comment thumbsup
@@TrashPC_lol join the membership program and you too can have early access (maybe probably)
Or just be the owner of "his" Discord server, that worked out for me :D
t60 was peak, and this is still worse
seems like a reasonable laptop. Wish it was cheaper