if you want an even better experience, choose a rolling release distro like Arch based (for eg arco linux) with kde plasma. Kde also has krunner which is insanely powerful search tool as well
stupid question i know, but did you install the gpu driver before you had that unrecognized monitor issue? i've never seen that in my life. also be advised that linux mint recommends you stick with the kernel that it comes with on install, which is 5.15 (long term support branch), it's not dangerous to use the latest non-lts kernel, and it (should) still be fine, you could just switch back if anything breaks, but just something to note if you notice anything going arye.
You're the perfect user... You've actually read whatever the popups/warnings say. My biggest gripe when helping relatives/friends with tech stuff is that they NEVER READ THE DAMN INSTRUCTIONS. They just click next/ok, and then look at it "not work, halp".
@@axolotl4129 More like 99%. Why do you think micropuke is still around. because their garbage comes preinstalled and they have NO idea how to make anything out of an .iso.
On Linux, there are signals sent from the kernel to an application to get it to quit. SYSTERM is asking the application to quit, and SYSKILL immediately kills it.
the solution was just to click on update kernel and select the latest kernel, install and restart ... thats more a think of lack of knowledge then a UI thing.
@@mhm6421 no. watch the vid. he only used some hardware info programms that told him driver is status N/A. after the kernel update it worked. watch the vid.
Linux Mint is quite user-friendly, but it has one downside. It comes with rather old packages, including the kernel, and new hardware needs new kernels. Fedora (different Linux distribution) is very up-to-date and still very stable. By default, it comes with Gnome, which is a bit different from Windows and macOS, but I find it the most efficient, while still being flexible.
You may not realize, but this video is probably one of the best Linux introductory videos on UA-cam and also an excellent Cinnamon desktop review. Thank you and congrats!
+1 I've watched a lot of intro videos and this is one of the better ones simply because it doesn't hide the complications and confusion, letting the viewer learn vicariously.
@raidev_ what is expected of any new Linux user, right?The first time I used Linux, I also couldn't differentiate the operating system from the desktop environment. For those who come from Windows and MacOS, the desktop environment has no importance/meaning.
@@erlonpb it's important to be able to tell the difference, especially when looking things up. In the video he looked up how to create shortcuts in "linux" and he was met with terminal methods. If he looked up cinnamon it would have the results he wanted
I can only assume that they specifically meant they play CS2 using faceit? Personally I have found gaming on Linux to be great if you are within steam, and a bit hit or miss when using lutris or bottles.
@@bbfh-ytI'm running nobara Linux and had always issues with my nibidia drivers. My video output would just freeze randomly without any visible reason. Under load and without any load. Last week I just did regular updates and never encountered it again. 😊
Not having the kernel being updated automatically is so counter intuitive. I have been using Linux for 10y now and had the same issue on Manjaro lately. There is a lot of on boarding that still needs to happen for new users. Showing an "update your kernel" button next to the normal update functionality is already enough. Or warn users when there kernel reaches end of life.
i think the most mind-bending thing about coming to a unix-like os from windows or mac is learning that features like drag and drop/misc. gui paradigms, software management, and device support and configuration are not provided by the operating system per-se, but by whatever software and configuration you have installed with the operating system. the linux experience is inherently building an os, by comparison as "building a home" can mean anything from laying the foundation and framing the structure, to installing furniture and stocking the fridge. glad to see you're making your way in it 🤓
@@brugj03 Same, believed it as well. Recently checked on the more user friendly distros again to see if it'd be finally good enough to act as a replacement for family members that already struggle under windows (after I heard multiple times that it'd be like that now) and don't use their PC often enough that it'd make sense to upgrade specs + buy a new windows license, needless to say I played around with them and found them absolutely unfitting for them, you'd expect that people would be more upfront than just engaging in "MY OS IS BETTER" wars, not even mentioning that you'd think that there'd be distros by now that would come as a fully easy to handle alternative... like people have been asking for for how long now? I like that e.g. Mint has an easy to use "store" that just straight up allows you to download apps, but it doesn't solve the core issue that it's still too complex for a majority of people that could benefit from it while at the same time it takes too many workarounds for those that know what they're doing to be worth using as a daily driver, especially if it comes to gaming.
It's not just Windows; unfortunately, people build in hundreds of features to applications these days… then don't tell the users. We used to have things we called manuals, but these days they get read about as much as terms and conditions when signing up for things! 😀
As a software dev and Linux user/admin, I think videos like these are great. Seeing what an actual, new user goes through and how they interact with a system that is second nature to me, is really useful!
The package you installed (Obsidian) wasn't a regular package, but rather a "Flatpak", which is a universal packaging format for Linux. To uninstall it through the terminal, "flatpak remove obsidian" should work. And yes, you do not need sudo for Flatpak.
While in this topic, it might be good to mention that there are multiple app install formats for Linux. If I'm not mistaken, Mint by default allows for apt packages (the ones you install with sudo apt and the deb files), snap packages (installed with sudo snap), and Flatpaks (installed mainly with the software manager but also with the Flatpak command). For the layman it's probably better to just use the software manager to install and uninstall stuff because it takes all the mess away from remembering you package names and which command you installed them from.
@@furank_i Yeah definitely. On Ubuntu, you want to use Snaps when possible, or debs if you need to, on Mint Flatpaks are recommended and ofc you can use debs, while on Fedora, Flatpaks and rpm packages are used. AppImages which are like portable apps are also supported out of the box in Mint and Fedora. I personally think the Software center is great for users, but if you like computers and messing with them, the terminal is more fun.
I'm glad someone posted it. It says it right there in the details that it's using Flathub though I wouldn't expect someone to immediately recognize "remote" as meaning where it's sourcing from. Though for someone who's installed regular package manager packages and flatpack ones the md.obsidian.Obsidian is a dead giveaway.
The thrill of troubleshooting a minor issue never gets old. I willfully mess up my distro, just to fix it over the weekend. My wife is concerned, but it's because she doesn't understand. The struggle is the point.
For your first time, you did really great I especially loved how when you encountered a problem (graphics drivers are notoriously difficult) you didn't just say "linux sucks" and left it there. Thanks for giving linux a fair chance :)
At some point I figured out I can just run "ubuntu-drivers" and Nvidia drivers work themselves out. It was Realtek wifi dongle that was a pain to get working. I had to find and install the right aircrack-ng drivers... the kicker is that the dongle was misreporting its model :/
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 TBH, and while Linux Mint is by far the best beginners distro. The problem he encountered is on them. They use old kernel version for "stability reasons" but the thing is most modern hardware obviously doesn't work on old kernels. Fortunately they're gonna change that next release. So they use the latest Kernel by default. So hopefully no more headaches
You have no idea how happy i was to see you figure out you needed a new kernel for your graphics card. Im a long time linux user and was like. "Ohhhhh no, why did mint ship with such an old kernel, this guy is going to give up before he starts." And im glad you got the best solution for this problem. You actually can manually install AMD graphics drivers from the website, and Ive done that in a specific scenario where I wasn't allowed to upgrade my kernel. But that solution is far from ideal so i was super happy yo see you get on the roght track without making horrible changes to your system through other trouble shooting steps. Good job!
@@chistinelane that's not broken. On windows you have to install AMD or NVIDIA drivers in the first place. This is the same thing, but since it's a different type of system, people may not be aware of how drivers are handled. Now what IS broken is the Jump to Wayland vs X org as the display manager. X org used to be what was in charge of the graphical desktop environments, but all the devs jumped to Wayland because it fixes some core issues with X since it is fundamentally flawed being 4 decades old. The only problem is, now tons of things are actually broken in the Linux desktop environments because of this. It will eventually get better, but right now, something as simple as screen sharing is unbelievably painful if not impossible for most people.
@@chistinelaneit’s not broken, mint is just not bleeding edge and instead focused on stability. If you habe new hardware, choose rolling, get bleeding edge kernels and drivers and new stuff also works
@@exen900 or me, and the billions of other people who need a working os can just choose a working os and not have to deal with one where every step requires... All that.
True first update it sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade. Afterwards sudo apt autoremove. Additional sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt clean, is what I always do after installing a distribution.
Except, he did. One of the first things he did was go into the Mint update manager, and check for updates. The provided update manager didn't have any updates. Half way through the video, after an hour and a half of research, and he finally found the menu to manually update the kernel, which was required to use a GPU that's almost a year old. Users shouldn't have to know how to update their kernel, when they already ran the auto updater.
I'm actually very surprised that Linux Mint doesn't do this automatically, especially as everyone calls it a beginner friendly distro. Is auto update not a thing on Linux? Why should the user bother about kernel or OS updates? On Windows for example, by default, stuff like this happens automatically in the background, aswell as driver installation and updates, and even many app updates
@@meta7517 The regular Linux Mint Cinnamon he installed starts with Linux kernel driver 5.4(?), which can be used to revive older hardware. On a modern device, there is the Linux Mint Cinnamon EDGE, located at the bottom of the Linux mint downloads page, that defaults to Linux Kernel driver 6.5 for modern machines. You can setup auto update of packages or your kernel with a cronjob which will run scheduled operations you assign, although not recommended sometimes for your kernel because you may brick your system. I have a cronjob to update my Raspberry Pi PiHole. The idea of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind about Windows auto updates, it's a forced update. Some longer time users, switched to Linux, because they didn't like the direction Windows was taking with Win11, increase in user tracking/ads, concerns over Microsoft's Recall, etc. I follow the same reasoning with my iphone 11, I don't upgrade the IOS, because I know Apple's IOS updates tends to degrade older devices' performance.
@@enashimoyou aren't alone. A lot of people in the Linux community don't like GIMP. I wish there was a better alternative. Maybe now that Canva has acquired Affinity, we'll see a Linux version of that at some point soon. But idk.
so just to say a couple of things: CS2 works on linux, (why wouldnt it, steamdeck is linux based and cs2 is valve game), the fact is, games that use KERNEL anticheat (for example faceit&valorant) that works on driver level doesnt work on linux, and some battleye/easyanticheat games could not work too, but there is some compatibility, so many games will still work. EXT4 is just mostly default filesystem on linux, its not fat based. there's many filesystems like XFS, BTRFS, etc. The issue with drivers was yes, you have been using "old" kernel (opensource drivers are built-in in kernel like amdgpu, nvidia nouveau (for nvidia you need to install their proprietary driver after installation to have normal performance in heavy tasks) and some intel driver), because mint, ubuntu, (manjaro?) and other 'stable' distros are frequently using older versions of packages&kernels&maybeotherstuff by some amount of time so they can be sure that it works and don't break by the next system update, downside is, well, older versions of packages & kernels. for example, you updated to 6.5 kernel, while mainstream one rn is 6.9 which released in may. desklets&applets&extensions are not OS feature but desktop enviroment (DE) feature, in this case, Cinnamon (mint's default). There's many DE's like GNOME, KDE, etc. UPD: you installed obsidian from flathub source, which is kinda like 'docker', flathub is external source & universal packaging format for linux which includes all dependencies, the package, etc. in the thing you download. You could think of it like isolated portable program UPD: i saw you liked my comment, TY! i edited it so the like dissapeared, sadly very great video, keep doing this kind of stuff i also didn't knew you could do that with panel in cinnamon, ty! :)
@@atikinbtw manjaro is just weird. It was probably good about 5 years ago, but now it's more often than not a mess of old packages that don't match AUR version requirements, invalidated keys and horrible organization.
@@atikinbtw I'm not a fan of the Manjaro team's direction, so I generally recommend Garuda Linux for people new to Linux. That's not to say Manjaro is bad, they've done a lot of good: Teaming up with Pine64 to bring a mobile version of Manjaro for phones, and Pamac-all is by far the best wrapper for Pacman. Makes software installation super simple. If you install pamac-all on Garuda, you'll rarely ever need to open a terminal. Super user-friendly.
17:16 when he said "my first idea is to compile" my heart skipped a beat in that horrifying instant i thought the only possible way this could continue would be "the linux kernel from source"
"Works fine" is a bit of an overstatement. It runs like shit, even worse than on Windows. They've ruined Counter-Strike with CS2. Half the content of CS:GO is missing, there are more bugs than ever, and it runs like crap.
I had 250 to 300 fps on csgo and on cs2 i have 150 to 300, so it runs well, vac works well for what it's designed for (but not right now useful) and CS2 on Linux doesn't have much less FPS than on windows but yeah there's a few minor bugs right now and many game modes aren't there yet, but they are working on an AC
tip. most of the linux community answers questions in a way that refers to all distros. It is best to include the distro you're using in your key words to get the simplest explanation
this is actually such a perfect representation of what moving the linux should look like you're learning something new, take the time to go through your issues and actually learn if you're not ready to run into issues, then stick to what you know
Is There any value you gain respect to windows when you actually learn? Is the lack of games and programs replaced by something more valuable than changing folders graphic and looking online for code Lines to fix the random problems?
@@stefanogandino9192 if you are a standard user of windows or linux, windows is significantly more intuitive off rip because most people have used it for their entire lives by now. If you’re doing anything in the command line Linux is significantly better and allows you to have more control over anything going on (also PowerShell looks like it was last updated September 10th, 2001, and has less resources to help you figure out whatever problem you’re trying to solve)
@@Coolkid245 i'm talking about something valuable, something i can actually use to do something that is not to brag how knowledge i am. It's a genuine question, it must have something more than that, i don't believe people are really switching to a less usefull os to say "look, i've the knowledge and i know how to change folders colors"
@@stefanogandino9192 what i think youre asking then is what software is available on linux thats not on/better than windows. short answer is nothing. if your computer exists solely for just using software then linux is not for you. however your comment seems to imply that knowledge is not valuable, or at least not tangible (nothing on the computer is). to that i say you are either 13 or ignorant of the world. knowledge and experience are the most valuable assets you can have, and no one can take it away from you
@@luxluth A newbie is not going to utilise its backup features, so ext4 is a good start. Ext4 is basically just the fourth extension to the Minix file system, so it’s tried and tested.
i've been a linux user for well over a year now so nothing here is all that new to me but the more i watched the video the more i thought "wait, this is awesome, finally a really approachable video of how an average windows or mac user would act when using linux for the first time". i LOVE your pragmatism and your vibe in general. if i ever wanna get someone to try linux, i'll send them this video.
I don't think you are going to get good results. This was a interesting video but i have no idea what half the things in this video even are and i am much more computer savvy then the average person. It seemed like a lot of stuff the average person will never touch while being way more confusing and prone to problems compared to Windows.
@@mastersparkles1584linux users that constantly yap about them using linux love fixing errors that'd likely not appear in windows just so that they can boost their self-esteem since theres nothing else going on in their life. And then, after spending 20 hours on r/iusearchandiwearfemboythighs, they wonder, "why are windows users not using linux yet? They stupid?"
i won't count how many times i burst out laughing. your sense of humor perfectly aligns with mine. also i'm switching to dual booting linux in a few weeks/months and god, this was the best video to soothe my nerves and sweep away my uncertainties. i am SO READY for this glorious linux experience. as a programmer by day and by night i cannot WAIT to get to tinkering and customizing. thank you for making this!
As a Linux User, You did one of the best switch I saw in "I swich to Linux" videos. From now if you want more performance, it will cost you time and knowledge. Just some basic things I saw in your video : - don't install from .deb packages, use your package manager it will help you updating your system and all your apps. a .deb need you to manually install the app at each update. - for OBS the problem can be linked with hardware acceleration, using the flatpak should be the simplest fix (as flatpak is installed by default on Linux Mint) (flatpak merge an app and its dependency so it break less (I do really simple), install it from the sofware manager app, you see sometimes there is 2 version of the same app one is the flatpak the other one is the normal app) - when you tried to uninstall Obsidian, it didn't worked because you installed it as a flatpak the correct command to uninstall it is "flatpak remove md.obsidian.Obsidian" - I use copyq I don't know why it crashed your desktop You picked the right distro for starting, I hate when I see people that pick some weird distro for their first, Linux mint is my go to for easy installation and usage. Hope you will keep using Linux.
I love Mint and respect their work very much. But it's hard to recommend a distro where the user takes 1.5h to configure the screen correctly just because they are providing a 2021 kernel by default
@@marcelorauber_ I'm a bit on the verge on this one. On one side, yes the graphics driver should just be there and work (or at least tell the user, that we don't have one running right now but if you update your kernel, you will get it). On the other hand, Mint has a tradition of being installed on older hardware, for which everything is already available. What's even funnier: Setting up my Nvidia GPU was way easier on Mint. I open the driver manager, it recognizes my GPU, lets me select between nouveau and the official Nvidia driver. Click Apply, Reboot, done! Maybe they should present AMD cards in the driver manager as well. It doesn't have to actually do anything, but just acknowledge that the GPU is there and working (or not).
@@arseniysemin1361 if it's codec related, Flatpak will solve it. Else it could just be missconfiguration like putting the h264 CPU profile on slowest. But as it's on a yt channel, he should know basic OBS configuration
Not sure what you meant by "weird distro" but depending on the objective I can totally see why in some context you'd want to try something that doesn't hold your hand as much. e.g. if you have a 2 weeks vacation with little to no plans, or plan to make a video out of it, you're probably fine trying something that might require you to invest almost 10h, but yield greater return in understanding of the ecosystem / personalized setup.
Well, the iso was probably old and was relying on you to update the kernel. Mint is also downstream from Ubuntu. Which means they don’t always have access to the latest kernel updates.
@@jorge69696 Shipping not the latest kernel is a common practice in the world of distros. Usually it’s called a LTS release where. Usually it’s the better choice for stability reasons.
@@jorge69696 Because Linux Mint releases are based on Ubuntu LTS releases which have 2 years in-between, Mint is very stable and robust, but since its based on LTS releases its not always up to date with the latest hardware
You shouldnt have to fix complex issues yourself in a OS makes it Tedious and downright impossible for new users just scaring them off. SO unless your a programmer or a tech nerd 🤓 I don't recommend linux at all 😂
@@Space97.at least in the video there were no really complex issues. I bet it would take the average guy around an hour or two at most to set everything up. After all google exists and any and I mean ANY issue I've had I just googled it and takes 5 minutes at most searching mostly reddit
@@Space97. You're not making any sense. A user used to Windows, finds problems on Windows as something normal, so used to fixing them, then it is so opaque, that you don't even have the slightest idea that there's a problem in the background somewhere, unless you know about it. Forced updates that are done on your working/gaming time, the bloatware that's installed by force the first time you use it, and so on... I don't recommend Windows at all
@@liquidebleu and said bloatware can uninstall via powershell, thats equivalent uninstalling in linux using terminal, where the problem ?. auto update can disable via policy. and not to mention, how linux sometimes giving random error, when you search it, thats just make it worst, where the solution is pretty simple in reality. yeah, linux isn't for newbie.
really well made and informative video. you comment like a perfect middleground between average consumer and nerd - love it. just discovered this channel and im loving the fast paced and funny vids :)
Some pointers to help. - On KDE we have something called krunner which is basically the spotlight from Linux, i dont know if there is something similar to Cinnamon, but if youre not afraid to mix and match, krunner runs on any DE. - Obsidian was installed with something called flatpak, since there are literally thousands of linux systems each one with a different way to install software someone invented flatpaks which are basically universal apps that you can install alongside your normal apps and are avaliable on every linux system. The linux software center dont distinguish between flatpaks and normal programs because on the UI they are pretty much the same. - Most linux have a font installer so most of the time you can double click the font and it will have a install option - I do think cinnamon has a builtin clipboard manager, most DEs do. I do remember KDE 3, of the era of Windows XP and it had one. So, my guess woulf say that is hidden or disabled. But nothing prevents you to use a third party one like you did. - Screen recording on Linux is kind of a mess. And you didnt even get to the Wsyland thingy yet - You graphics card was newer than the system you where running, thats why it didnt worked at first. Its like you have to run Windows update or manually install the driver before Windows support a newer GPU. You where basically running with the "Generic Adapter Driver" which doesnt really support scaling and other stuff. But the mint team should be better at advertising that your kernel is old and that you need to update it, which would solve your problem asap. - Anticheat is something game by game. CS2 and all Valve titles run normally. I've also played ghost recon and the division. Anything that doesnt habe AC also runs fine like GTA Online or Phasmophobia. But stuff like Fortnite and Rainbow Six does not. Also, forget anything from RIOT. - Also, the partition thing. ESP is a default partition used to boot an OS, thst bein Linux or Windows. Its a normally hidden partition with only the necessary data to boot your OS. Linux is actually installed in the other ext4 partition, which has nothing to do with exfat, just similar names, no relationship. Oh, and welcome to Linux, i hope you have a good stay.
the UI was actually showing that this app was from flatpak. i think his problem was kinda tricky: he knew this extra bit that he could install apps from terminal but did not know enough to realize the specific scope of that command. I'm afraid no UI could have stopped him from missing bit. what would have a slight chance of working kinda seamlessly would be if there was a common CLI for installing all kinds of apps but then the user would still have to have that command in mind and not apt, which is unlikely. I liked how he mentioned that installing apps from CLI is actually kinda convenient, so looks like there might be a theoretical CLI that would work at abstraction layer just above apt and flatpak (or more) and aid user with any ambiguity -- and it would have to be known well enough to "overshadow" the apt.
Yeah I swear to lord I installed openbox a while ago and even enabling dark mode in apps by default is such a pain in the ass. And I already have some experience with WMs.
one thing to note for 4:00-ish - you don't need to partition a disk in Windows to get it ready to install any Linux distro on it. The partitioning can be handled by the other OS as well. This is particularly a good idea to do in your case, where you are dedicating the entire disk. When you assign a disk label in Windows and create a partition in it, you will need to remove that partition to make way for your Linux partition anyway
that "deez nuts" joke with that kind of delivery sent a little victorian blush to my face, the one you get when you giggle but you are ashamed of it, so you gracefully cover your face with a hand, aka retro anime chuckle nice
The fact that you did your research and really tried to troubleshoot is admirable, you actually gave it a shot and I'm happy for that :) You probably already know, but there are a lot of different desktop experiences on Linux, you tried Cinnamon, but there's also Plasma and Gnome. For Tiling window managers there's Hyprland, bspwm, sway and i3 and a lot of DE and TWM I won't mention, every single one offering a different experience so that you can work in the way you want to work! The obsidian part...is due to it being installed as a Flatpak, not as a "traditional" package, you can think of it as being installed from the windows store instead of downloading an installer, so you have to uninstall it using flatpak or the software manager.
@@johanb.7869*most will give it a chance, get frustrated by having to dig and troubleshoot for hours and learn 100 technical things they didn't have to on Windows or Mac, decide it's not worthwhile, then switch back.
@johanb.7869 Yeah, because first impressions count in this. Whether that's with software or getting a job. Linux needs to massively improve its experience for non tech people.
The graphics driver issue was kinda unfortunate and you having the patience to figure it out is amazing. Great video! Little PSA for anyone else wanting to try out Linux now: 1st thing you should after installing the system is check for updates.
@@Feliks_WR idk why mint doesn't just make the EDGE iso the default, or at the very least have a BIG warning at the top suggesting installing the EDGE iso if you have a modern computer. So many threads on reddit etc of people having issues due to the outdated kernel and mesa in the default install...
7:42 The "ESP" actually stands for "EFI System Partition". If I remember correctly, It's basically a way for the EFI to know that the partition is bootable and some other things.
also formatted the drive on windows which you shouldn't as it's going to format/create an ESP and ext4 partition anyways so if he didn't formatted the drive on windows that pop up wouldn't be there so, unnecessary/confusing step for new users
Man, I'm SOOO glad you figured out the kernel driver issue so calmly and did not make a scandal about it. Many others would have ditched Linux instantly upon hitting that issue. Hopefully mint catches up with it's kernel versions, since it's one of the more friendly and recommended distros for Windows users.
And see, this is another reason why I will never use a Linux operating system, my windows can register, recognize and download shit stupid fast. And smooth with zero lag. Not bad for a 400watt gaming build esp when it can push out 4k out the DP port and hit close to 150fps on a 2GB (settings at max max) gtx 760 OC made by MSI, nah I’m good.
@@TechGamer-247 yeah, including all that microsoft force fed apps and software. Yesterday i uninstalled clip champ 4 times from my sisters pc. Today it was installed again. Linux for now doesn't have the convenience, like cooking your own meal or eating fast food. The ones that believe in the benefits will be willing to sacrifice some time and effort.
This is great as an introduction. I also love how you went for a bunch of things that I actively avoid and find cluttering (middle start icons, animations, icon customization, snapping windows), but that Linux is also my favorite because it easily lets me avoid all of that. I learned a few things here too.
Probably the *biggest* mistake you can make as a Linux newcomer is choose a distro based on the look presented on the distro's website. A Linux distro does *not* determine the look of your system, everything (and I mean everything) look and feel related is customizable and you should only choose a distro based on the performance and features it offers.
I think as a Linux newcomer you don't necessarily have the understanding for features to make a good call - so being easy and getting a default layout that appears good to you is not a bad way of choosing. For many things like wayland vs xorg, or systemd, snaps, flatpaks, window managers are all technical buzzwords with no meaning, except for those who either have been using Linux for a while or like bouncing between distros. For a fresh user wanting something to use and maybe, just maybe, later want to delve deeper into Linux, looks are going to be the main call. Pop in a live CD, and see what feels best to get started with. At least as a newbie myself - it's my approach.
Hard disagree. 1/ Probably the biggest mistake is nuking your data by formatting the wrong storage device or making a single character mistake in command line and deleting your important files... 2/ Also the default user interface is probably the most used and the most tested one. So, if you want a smooth experience (and you should want new users to have a good first impression if you want Linux to succeed) that's what you should use first. Things should work well out of box. A new user might also not have the expertise or patient to completely reconfigure the look and feel of the OS.
@@szirsp hey, you're so right, experienced users tend to ignore what first experience is like, that's a thing in pretty much everything else, not just linux. tutorials are overlooked, gamedevs only care about endgame, etc
I've been running Linux as my main system for over a year now and it's SO REFERSHING to see you struggle with the first issues that I also had back then. It really puts into perspective how far I've gone with really understanding what my computer is doing, and not relying on the OS to hold my hand with everything. This is of course not written with the reason of bragging, but moreso as a letter to anyone who's trying or considering switching to Linux. My 2 cents to this hypothetical person reading my comment are: Don't get discouraged by bugs and issues, you'll figure them out sooner or later. We all do. And when you do stick around with the Linux community, you'll look back fondly at your first hours or days stumbling around in the terminal :)
"Don't get discouraged by bugs and issues, you'll figure them out sooner or later." - wasting time for no real gain must be a deal of your life then lol. I like that linux community say "games work even better than on windows" while my friends trying to correctly connect to each other... 10 hours. If you dont value your time, linux is a great choice.
@@ThePsycho211 "wasting time for no real gain must be a deal of your life then lol" Yes. But also, if you presume Linux is of no gain to you personally, then you shouldn't listen to anyone telling you to use it. Linux is a different operating system with different strengths and weaknesses than Mac or Windows and it's only natural it will fit a different target audience.
I'm honestly impressed by your dedication to actually troubleshooting the problems and trying it all out, unlike some others who just insulted linux and got back to using windows after some minor problems they were too lazy too figure out and never touched linux again.
"minor problems they were too lazy too figure out" This is the exact naive linux user arrogance that will continue to turn people off using the OS. Just stop it! That attitude as much as the troubleshooting required is what sends user back to windows/mac. I'm commenting as a long time linux and windows user who has just installed mint again recently and had to plough through much of the same old BS with hardware/drivers etc.
@@Ash_18037 well, the problem wasn't due to linux, It was due to bogxd installing a normal version instead of the edge version. Well, I agree that attitude does scare away new users, but if they can't accept troubleshooting, then linux RIGHT NOW isn't made for them.
@Ash_18037 I mean it is true though. I was blown away at just how few problems I had with Linux Mint compared to Windows 10 as long as I wasnt actively diving into something technical. Windows has give me countless issues with basicly every single driver, wifi issues, printer issues, headphone issues, bluetooth issues, randomly corrupting itself over night issues after I installed Mint and vowed to move stuff over bit by vit everytime Windows annoyed me which was drasticly accelerated by it nuking itself and failing to take my Mint partition down with it. Mint has just worked out of the box without me having to install anything.
@@Ash_18037 I belive you will always have to go though some troubleshooting when you swap to something you are unfamilliar with. For example when and android or IPhone user swap they always run into issues. They will have to troubleshoot the issues by looking it up and digging trough settings. or learn a new way of doing things. They will have the exact same problem as you are describing as only existing in linux. I find linux to be more stable, easier to troubleshoot, and easier to maintain than windows.
@Just-Another_Channel With Linux it's actually relatively simple, and you can have multiple DEs installed, and switch between them, but there isn't that many Desktop Environments worth considering imho: 1 Gnome and Gnome Feedback, 2 KDE, 3 Xfce, 4 Cinnamon and LXDE and maybe MATE. That's it.
If I am not wrong, the kernel problem could have probably been avoided by using the "EDGE" ISO that linux mint unfortunately puts all the way at the bottom of the web page, where it also explains that this edge version is used to support newer hardware. I am guessing it's because mint is commonly used for older laptops, but with the beginner-friendly title it acquired, they should put both ISOs side by side.
@@SyBorg-to3ni I don't mind knowledge but having your distro crash like that is not a good look. Very rarely happened to me on Windows and Ubuntu but within the first few hours, Mint decided to crash for no reason just like in the video.
@@okko7788 oh so your desktop environment called Cinnamon crashed and you decided that the whole OS crashed? Don't lie, you had "explorer.exe stopped responding" in Windows many times which is basically the same thing. An OS crash is globally associated with the Windows' Blue Screen of Death ironically.
@@theseangle The dumbest comment ever. You really think people who actually want to get home and work, and not just stay in their basement tinkering with software all day, will care if "TeCkUNIKELLY JuSt tHe DeSkTOp EnvIRonMeNT CrAsHeD" when their hipster OS that they tried to install craps out on them?
"Classic Mac" means literally "Classic Mac" - as in what shows up when you Google exactly that. Usually just using "left" side sets window buttons up to modern Mac-like buttons.
I think that was obvious, but only the X moved to the left, not the buttons for fullscreen and minimize. Having them split up is not classic mac, so Bog was confused.
Great video! The point you made right at the end about how every OS takes some time to get used to is spot on. People think they can just pick up Linux as a drop-in replacement, but there are so many little details that make using it confusing and annoying for the first couple of months. But, if you do stick with it for a couple of months, all the problems seem to fade away and it's just like using anything else. The big benefit to Linux is the freedom it allows for the user. There is no way for something like Microsoft Recall to get shoved down your throat if you use Linux. Even if some version of Linux were to try, there are a million other Linux versions you could switch to. Linux is totally unique in that regard. That's why you see Linux nerds talking about Linux being free and free software all the time. It's the freedom they're jazzed about. They're saying "free" like free speech, not free beer. Although Linux is also free like free beer, and that's also cool.
I love the speed at which you fly through these operating systems. This truly makes simple things like just doing random stuff like creating folders or whatever fun.
Linux Mint is a 'stable distro" as in it doesn't update as frequently, which is good for companies that want as little downtime as possible, or people who don't want to update and find some new bugs, but using a 7700 XT can be a pain because it's using an older version of mesa and the LInux kernel. A distro like OpenSUSE, Fedora, Arch, derivatives of them, or using distros that ship newer kernels and mesa like Pop OS but still use a stable base might help with a GPU that's fairly new
That is one of the things that I hate about Linux distros, I absolutely love the website based distribution of software with bundled dll. It feels more freedom than package managers or app stores. Package managers is what I would want to use to build software, pip/npm/etc. But I loathe them to manage software, I like my software to be standalone enough from the OS that i could install it in a USB, go to another computer with the same OS, an execute it with all the settings that I had without installation, this means to have in the same folder all the resources, libraries and config files of a user-space software. My Ideal OS would share exactly 0 libraries with its user space software, all user space software has to brings its own, also all user space software is so sandboxed that even if their libraries are outdated it doesn't matter. This user space software then it is distributed in a tar/tar.gz/zip/rar in websites and you install it by simply decompressing it wherever you want. That is the dream, at least my dream. Windows is what is closer to this, albeit windows has some system wide libraries, software usually split configuration and resources in different folders and has useless installers.
@crwn1337I don’t agree with him but this is a common idea among developers. They want to manage everything by themselves because they don’t trust the OS enough
The first half was really relatable, in the second half everything was too smooth But you really helped me I was wondering why my laptop always got so hot, turns out I did not use my graphics card
>install linux >instantly gets into a 1.5 hour long driver battle to get the right resolution and refresh rate of your monitor Yep, that is the linux experience at its finest
The reason you were unable to uninstall Obsidian from the terminal is because Obsidian was installed via a package manager called Flatpak. It is essentially a universal package manager for Linux distros that also has some handy features such as sandboxing.
Problem is that he tried to use package tool to remove it. This won't work because flatpack is universal as you said, but APT is not. From terminal you can still remove flatpack, try $ flatpack remove md.obsidian.Obsidian
They can also be very annoying. Steam flatpak doesn't allow different disks, Browser flatpaks seem to not save 'last folder' location when saving files, just starts in a temp folder. There are probably others I haven't bumped into as yet. But being just a day or two into trying linux the only thing that stood out to me was flatpak bad. And the pop_os app store needs a better indicator of flat vs native install. 🤣
@@sociallyferal4237you can allow the steam flatpak to access other disks, you just need to use a program called flatseal. With that you can change what folders and storage devices are available to a flatpak program (and a few other things, but those are usually not important)
@@sociallyferal4237 There is a flatpak you can install called flatseal. It lets you set permissions for other flatpaks, as flatpaks can't access user files/directories. That might be why steam as a flatpak doesn't detect other drives on your pc
@@sociallyferal4237 The reason for this is sandboxing. Flatpak apps are sandboxed by default, meaning it is isolated from the rest of the system. This makes it more secure, as say, an untrusted application can't store arbitrary files to disk, or communicate with other processes. You can manually grant applications control outside the sandbox. Flatseal is a GUI application that makes this easy. Refer to the flatpak docs to learn more.
Nice! It's so interesting to see how a new user might try things out. Some notes to the video: - ext4 is actually not exFAT, it's a different filesystem. There are actually older versions as well, like ext3, ext2, and ext - You couldn't uninstall Obsidian with `apt`, because it was a flatpack. Unfortunately there are multiple competing solutions for package management, which is combined on the UI, but you need to know the source of the package if you want to do it from the terminal. There are also snaps, which is the package type for yet another package manager present on most Ubuntu-based systems. And let's not talk about other systems, like Arch, Gentoo, or Nix. :D Great video!
A lot of things you might assume are standard linux features are actually features of specific applications, which makes them slightly harder to google. For example the creating an alias/link, you should have been searching how to do it in nemo, the default file browser for cinnamon. Linux as a whole doesn't have a file browser, since every desktop environment has different opinions on how they should work.
It was really fun watching someone install and use Linux for the first time! That experience with Mac terminals helps a ton. One weird issue you ran into that wasn't obvious: while partitioning your drive during setup, it said "Windows is already installed on this hard drive" when it wasn't there at all, so that 300 GB of space you allocated is just empty (hence why your Windows drive popped up separately later as 109GB in size). What happened is, when you previously nuked the drive, all that happened is the OS labeled a bunch of stuff as "deleted" and left it at that. Unfortunately, it sometimes ends up leaving the stuff in place that tells your BIOS (and Linux) "hey, there's a Windows install here", hence why it warned you. There might be a way to wipe that 300GB, add it to your Linux logical volume as an additional physical volume (assuming Linux Mint created a logical volume), and expand the file system, but otherwise you'd have to try the risky operation of shuffling all the data from 300GB into the disk waaay down to the beginning of the disk, or just wipe and reinstall. Hopefully the first option is possible, though it's a bit involved.
It is so interesting to see the perspective of someone who is new but still pretty open minded trying out Linux. It is definitely a type of content/discussion that I don't feel there is enough of. As some context I've been using Linux extensively since I found out about it (literally since like 6th grade lol). Because I have always been pretty into learning and making things work exactly the way I want (even when it involves a steep learning curve) I have never really felt any significant frustration with Linux even though I have consistently jumped into advanced stuff that I would never recommend to a more 'normal' beginner. At the same time I really enjoy helping other people learn it and get things set up so I am very aware of how much things can vary depending on the person, what they want to do, and how they were introduced. I think that in addition to people who are new to Linux, this video could benefit people who are in a similar position as me who 1.) may rarely encounter problems because we have already set things up and know how to avoid them and 2.) have the experience, knowledge, skills, and mindset that often makes solving the ones that do come up seem trivial and quick. When you are at that stage it is really easy to get out of touch with what new users go through. It is stuff like your video that I think can help bridge the gap for those people and ultimately result in much better help, tips, improvements to the software, and support from experienced users that will ultimately help make it even better for new users.
I'm about to switch to Linux in a few weeks, so I watch a lot of videos about Linux, and somehow seeing you figure things out and solve problems is the most interesting and useful stuff I've seen in a while (and your PC building video was also really great). Keep making more videos like this one! 😊🤓
It's cute that the whole "Let's install apps!" section gets "ruined" by the fact that Linux comes with a bunch of user favorite programs by default. Remember when Windows used to ship with a full Office suite and a handful of games?
When did window come with office suite!!.. i only remember notepad and ie. Favourite thing to do after installing windows is to play mine sweeper to kill the time drivers are getting downloaded along with the software that one can actually use
@@nssandhu4401 Pretty sure it was sometimes part of the bloatware suite pre-installed for you by the OEM. And unless you paid extra, it would be just a demo | trial | starter edition anyways.
linux can come with a full experience or with literally 0 apps, it depens on the distro. Linux isnt just a single os, its a core thats used by many different "oses" called distros. (which are all wildly different)
Smol tip to get used to the terminal: most CLIs (terminal programs) have a --help option that displays all the different sub-commands and options, so if you wanna know everything you can do with apt you can run "apt --help". That way you learn the terminal without leaving the terminal, and make every other Linux user proud.
Welcome to the cult and I pray for a smooth experience, because the gods forbade me from experiencing smoothness. At least I traded my windows hate relationship with a linux love-hate relationship :D
nah, it's not random at all. These videos existed all the time, and is just now that you have linux stuff in your google history that youtobe starts to recommend you this stuff.
One of the best "Switched to Linux" videos, you went into it with the correct frame of mind & attitude towards Linux. A thing that's undersold to new users is distro choice does matter, it's a little more than personal choice, when it comes to your "out of the box" experience. There is a reason Linux Mint is one of the recommended distros for new users.
I lot of what you are calling Linux or your os is simply your desktop environment (Cinnamon in this case) one of the very common things newcomers to Linux do is conflate their os with their de, you could install or setup a different de and have a radically different experience. I hope you continue to explore the Linux world there is a lot to see
Ya it was confusing for me at first too. I only realized what a DE was when I googled how to setup peek at desktop in Fedora and someone in the forum pointed out that it's a GNOME question.
To be fair, I think most people would call it / search for "Linux" since these distinctions don't exist on Windows and macOS. Both of these OS'es just come with their own integrated GUIs and that's it.
@@johanb.7869 Yep, I chose to just call it Linux and not GNU/Linux (technically you could also be using a GNU replacement but that’s a niche of a niche) is simply “Linux” is what most people know it by
It took me like 2 days to get Nvidia drivers to work, just had to manually delete the old files and reinstall the drivers via terminal and everything works now. Man i love linux...
Ah, someone else who is taking the Linux pill. Appreciate the look into your successes and troubles installing and running Mint! Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your experience with the switch.
This video was basically a "think aloud" session, a common technique to conduct UI/UX design user studies. And it was really interesting, hearing your thought process, assumptions and so on! It highlighted some of Linux's idiosyncrasies that give beginners trouble. Things like this are really valuable information for people designing Linux desktop environments.
Mint cinnamon is also the distro i'm using! It's really great for a first time linux user (like me) and it's insanely reliable. There's a bit of built in software that you may have missed called driver manager that fetches stuff like your graphics driver for you, yes it does work with nvidia drivers. The mint forums are also pretty helpful and seem pretty fair with new users who have no idea what's going on. Aside from Minecraft running just fine, there's also a lot of steam games with proton support that I also don't usually run into problems with. While I did have to swap my main desktop back to windows, I do still have my laptop on mint while I wait for like 2 programs to gain linux support. Mostly corsair's ique software and like 1 game that does have support planned. I would have used OpenRGB but i wasn't a fan of how it works.
Ventoy is great for your bootable usb once installed you just drag and drop the iso file in the ventoy directory then when you boot the drive it will give you the option to boot any of the iso on the drive works great if you wanna try other distro and it also work for windows.
and you can make it look super sleek! I got a 16G USB and put in there: Arch (because one day i am gonna do it... I swear), my beloved Fedora KDE, Fedora XFCE for Older Hardware, Fedora Everything so i can install a customized setup if I want/need, system rescue bcs you never no if you break sth and last but not least Tails in case i want to do some Browsing on a Public PC
I have a 64 gb Ventoy drive that I once had about 20 ISOs on, including but not limited to Windows, several Fedora versions, Debian, Arch, Pop!_OS, and Solus
well, if i simply have to install a single OS i wont bother with ventoy, simply cause it takes an extra 1 or 2 steps compared to using rufus since u have to disable something in the bios related to security or ventoy wont work
@@starryskies0naw man, I’d say his fav is Apple bc he just switched. And same with me, after switching from an Android, I’m NEVER going back to android, and I will never use a Linux. All that just to “recognize some shit” my windows is faster at recognizing stuff, it started installed all my drivers and everything bf i did a damn thing. And this was after installing windows.
@@TechGamer-247 real man I recently switched from a samsung flagship to apple never going back to them androids, the os feels so rushed and half-baked, everything works better on the iphone from games to battery life to camera and animations, Linux isn't even half-baked its ⅛baked that's how bare bones it is, would choose windows over it any day it just works and it ain't that bad like u can't say you dont have freedom on windows
the arch wiki may be intended for arch users first, but by god is it full of good info for everyone who may need to find solutions to things. also, screen recording should work just fine, you're probably running into something being missing for it to work properly.
Great video! I switched to Linux Mint full-time about a year ago and I'm never going back. I was also curious what the initial setup process is like for someone new to Linux and I'm glad to see it's as smooth as this.
You did a great job on this video! 👏 I've been using Linux for a while now and it's great to see more people embarking on this journey. It's amazing how the system gives us the freedom to customize everything. Good luck and keep up the inspiring videos! 🚀 #TeamLinux
I wouldn't recommend gnome tbh since it's pretty limited. KDE Plasma 6 with a rolling release distro would be the killer for people wanting more advanced features. But yeah, cinnamon is good and stable enough for new users trying out Linux for the first time.
Comparing GIMP and Krita is like comparing apples with oranges. Even though there is some overlap in functionality, they are meant for completely different use cases. Krita is a digital painting program meant for digital artists to produce hand drawn illustrations, comics, animations, etc. whereas GIMP is a general purpose image editor.
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 well photoshop is a general purpose photo app but i can draw on it like krita but gimp is another story so for me the closest thing to photoshop is actually krita.
When you install Linux. If you want to install Linux alongside Windows on the SAME drive, you choose "Install linux alongside windows boot manager", but if you want to install Linux alongside Windows on the second/separate drive, you choose "erase disk and install linux" but be careful to not choose the Windows disk but the one you want to install Linux to. Also, you can just double click the font file to install it. Linux Mint should have a "weaker" equivalent to Mac's Super + Space and you use that just by typing on desktop and it will activate in lower right corner. All keyboard shortcuts are the same as in Windows, especially the most known ones like shift + delete for perma delete and alt + f4 for closing the app. Pressing PrtScr actually activates the screenshot app so you can quickly take a screenshot.
Why this brings tears to my eyes. I see a lot of linux users in the comments who were worried about his first time experience. Overall, I can say he had a ton of better experience than I did first time lol. But now Linux feels like home.
It's interesting to see the assumptions a new user makes. It was super obvious to me that you need to update the kernel for your graphics card, but not to you. Linux users often live in their own little world and it's difficult to infer what a user does and does not know.
Ah yes, the thing that everyone loves to do before they use a new operating system: reading the documentation. Why easy when you can feel smug about it being hard?
@@jeromep5294 You said it yourself. "a new operating system". Those coming from other operating systems get used to that platform's way of doing things, and that's the reason they can use it without needing to learn how it works. When it's a new one you've never used, you gotta do your part in learning, or else it will be just frustration. I do get what you're saying, though. Stable release distros really should have a system check that gives you a "Following hardware is currently not working properly due to lack of drivers. Please install a newer kernel using the Update Manager app, look for additional drivers using our Driver Manager app, install relevant drivers from our package manager if it's still missing, or consult the manufacturer to get an idea of your options. *bunch of buttons that open the apps*".
@@jeromep5294 I get your point, it should be easier and more intuitive. They wouldn't even have to implement auto-detection, a simple "We see your GPU drivers aren't working, would you like to try a newer kernel?" would suffice. That being said, you also can't order a cupboard from Ikea, put it together without reading the manual and then wonder why it looks like a lovecraftian god.
@@jeromep5294 Most people don't go around installing new operating systems, they use the one that came with their computer. Likewise, using a computer that came with Linux preinstalled doesn't require reading any documentation to fix broken drivers.
the main issue is people will tell you to read the documentation and not link to it, then you actually find and read it and find out that your problem isn't actually mentioned anywhere in the documentation.
You are the reason why I went and installed Linux on my laptop. "it can't be that bad" Your videos are very entertaining and informative. Thank you for the inspiration!
I also just discovered that you can boost the Linux user base by 3.7% by scrolling back up to smash the like button
if you want an even better experience, choose a rolling release distro like Arch based (for eg arco linux) with kde plasma. Kde also has krunner which is insanely powerful search tool as well
you can recover your files with photorec you know.
stupid question i know, but did you install the gpu driver before you had that unrecognized monitor issue? i've never seen that in my life.
also be advised that linux mint recommends you stick with the kernel that it comes with on install, which is 5.15 (long term support branch), it's not dangerous to use the latest non-lts kernel, and it (should) still be fine, you could just switch back if anything breaks, but just something to note if you notice anything going arye.
you funny huh
Heads up, CS2 has full native linux support, infact I find it more stable on linux than windows!
The Linux community has moved past the distro war phase, now they're too afraid to scare away any new users
glad.
Debian and its offsprings are for noobs btw.
joking ofc :)
Fedora workstation is still the best distro btw
I use arch btw
I mean, as long as you use any up-to-date and supported distro who is not named Ubuntu, you should be ok.
You're the perfect user... You've actually read whatever the popups/warnings say. My biggest gripe when helping relatives/friends with tech stuff is that they NEVER READ THE DAMN INSTRUCTIONS.
They just click next/ok, and then look at it "not work, halp".
It's even worse when the question can only be answered by personal preferences. I ain't a mind-reader bruh 💀
It's probably because they don't understand what it's even saying lol,I imagine 90 percent of windows users to not know what a kernel is
@@axolotl4129 I don't know what a kernel is.
@@axolotl4129 More like 99%. Why do you think micropuke is still around. because their garbage comes preinstalled and they have NO idea how to make anything out of an .iso.
@@axolotl4129 more than that
like, the 1% know what it is
App: *unresponsive*
Windows: would you like to force quit or wait!
Linux: K I L L
Linux is an app murderer confirmed
HAHAHAHA YOU WANT TO shut down your computer? WHAT DO YOU MEAN CLICK THE POWER OFF BUTTON? no such thing. $ shutdown now
I'm picturing Linux's behaviour as that meme of Steve Harvey yelling "KILL" with the intonation of a psychopath lmao
On Linux, there are signals sent from the kernel to an application to get it to quit. SYSTERM is asking the application to quit, and SYSKILL immediately kills it.
@@samconnelly7630 Yeah yeah I use debian btw
taking almost two hours to figure out how to fix a "simple" ui/monitor option is such a mood though
the solution was just to click on update kernel and select the latest kernel, install and restart ... thats more a think of lack of knowledge then a UI thing.
@@philhasacomputer he had to do extra stuff after that watch the vid
@@mhm6421 no. watch the vid. he only used some hardware info programms that told him driver is status N/A. after the kernel update it worked. watch the vid.
@@philhasacomputer Nothing tells the user to do that though.
Linux Mint is quite user-friendly, but it has one downside. It comes with rather old packages, including the kernel, and new hardware needs new kernels. Fedora (different Linux distribution) is very up-to-date and still very stable. By default, it comes with Gnome, which is a bit different from Windows and macOS, but I find it the most efficient, while still being flexible.
You may not realize, but this video is probably one of the best Linux introductory videos on UA-cam and also an excellent Cinnamon desktop review. Thank you and congrats!
+1 I've watched a lot of intro videos and this is one of the better ones simply because it doesn't hide the complications and confusion, letting the viewer learn vicariously.
Oh no no no no no there's a bunch of rookie stuff in here I wouldn't recommend any newbie start with this
the issue is he didn't realize what cinnamon is, he just thought this is how linux looks like
@raidev_ what is expected of any new Linux user, right?The first time I used Linux, I also couldn't differentiate the operating system from the desktop environment. For those who come from Windows and MacOS, the desktop environment has no importance/meaning.
@@erlonpb it's important to be able to tell the difference, especially when looking things up. In the video he looked up how to create shortcuts in "linux" and he was met with terminal methods. If he looked up cinnamon it would have the results he wanted
CS2 not only works on Linux, it's actually a native program. I play VAC games on Linux all the time.
I mean yeah VAC is not an anti-cheat, It's a suggestion
@@Ziegenschrei VAC literally means Valve Anti-Cheat
I can only assume that they specifically meant they play CS2 using faceit? Personally I have found gaming on Linux to be great if you are within steam, and a bit hit or miss when using lutris or bottles.
Yeah the main anticheat that you cant use in linux is Riots
That's what I was thinking because I'm pretty sure I remember trying CS2 on Linux and I work perfectly fine
1.5 hours for a gpu issue like that has to be record time, especially for a new-ish user, congratulations!
I once spent 4 hours fixing NVIDIA drivers before they got solved on their own
@@bbfh-yt ive spent days trying to install nvidia drivers and turns out it was the kernel all along
@@bbfh-ytI'm running nobara Linux and had always issues with my nibidia drivers. My video output would just freeze randomly without any visible reason. Under load and without any load. Last week I just did regular updates and never encountered it again. 😊
Not having the kernel being updated automatically is so counter intuitive. I have been using Linux for 10y now and had the same issue on Manjaro lately.
There is a lot of on boarding that still needs to happen for new users. Showing an "update your kernel" button next to the normal update functionality is already enough. Or warn users when there kernel reaches end of life.
shouldn't be an issue to begin with
i think the most mind-bending thing about coming to a unix-like os from windows or mac is learning that features like drag and drop/misc. gui paradigms, software management, and device support and configuration are not provided by the operating system per-se, but by whatever software and configuration you have installed with the operating system. the linux experience is inherently building an os, by comparison as "building a home" can mean anything from laying the foundation and framing the structure, to installing furniture and stocking the fridge.
glad to see you're making your way in it 🤓
It can`t?? I believed Linux would maybe sometimes in the far future something as an alternative. But after knowing this i`m sure it will never ever.
I mean, technically macOS is Unix.
@@brugj03 Same, believed it as well.
Recently checked on the more user friendly distros again to see if it'd be finally good enough to act as a replacement for family members that already struggle under windows (after I heard multiple times that it'd be like that now) and don't use their PC often enough that it'd make sense to upgrade specs + buy a new windows license, needless to say I played around with them and found them absolutely unfitting for them, you'd expect that people would be more upfront than just engaging in "MY OS IS BETTER" wars, not even mentioning that you'd think that there'd be distros by now that would come as a fully easy to handle alternative... like people have been asking for for how long now?
I like that e.g. Mint has an easy to use "store" that just straight up allows you to download apps, but it doesn't solve the core issue that it's still too complex for a majority of people that could benefit from it while at the same time it takes too many workarounds for those that know what they're doing to be worth using as a daily driver, especially if it comes to gaming.
-Makes a Linux video
-Drops nuggets of wisdom about Windows features I didn't know existed
I had the same experience with the Mac features/apps he showed
I discovered the typing method to change save formats on windows on my own entirely by mistake a few years back.
It's not just Windows; unfortunately, people build in hundreds of features to applications these days… then don't tell the users. We used to have things we called manuals, but these days they get read about as much as terms and conditions when signing up for things! 😀
The words “windows” and “features” shouldn’t exist in the same sentence
As a software dev and Linux user/admin, I think videos like these are great. Seeing what an actual, new user goes through and how they interact with a system that is second nature to me, is really useful!
Especially as a dev (am one myself), observing users using your creation is really valuable. You built it, you know it inside out. They don't.
The funniest part is that everything is so obstructed now and nice, that when someone tries to do it through terminal - its a problem.
Nikola Tesla! Nisu te ubili!!!
Qradar?
The package you installed (Obsidian) wasn't a regular package, but rather a "Flatpak", which is a universal packaging format for Linux. To uninstall it through the terminal, "flatpak remove obsidian" should work. And yes, you do not need sudo for Flatpak.
While in this topic, it might be good to mention that there are multiple app install formats for Linux. If I'm not mistaken, Mint by default allows for apt packages (the ones you install with sudo apt and the deb files), snap packages (installed with sudo snap), and Flatpaks (installed mainly with the software manager but also with the Flatpak command). For the layman it's probably better to just use the software manager to install and uninstall stuff because it takes all the mess away from remembering you package names and which command you installed them from.
@@furank_i Yeah definitely. On Ubuntu, you want to use Snaps when possible, or debs if you need to, on Mint Flatpaks are recommended and ofc you can use debs, while on Fedora, Flatpaks and rpm packages are used. AppImages which are like portable apps are also supported out of the box in Mint and Fedora. I personally think the Software center is great for users, but if you like computers and messing with them, the terminal is more fun.
also don't install snap packages
I'm glad someone posted it. It says it right there in the details that it's using Flathub though I wouldn't expect someone to immediately recognize "remote" as meaning where it's sourcing from. Though for someone who's installed regular package manager packages and flatpack ones the md.obsidian.Obsidian is a dead giveaway.
This is how you remove it flatpak uninstall md.obsidian.Obsidian
The thrill of troubleshooting a minor issue never gets old. I willfully mess up my distro, just to fix it over the weekend. My wife is concerned, but it's because she doesn't understand. The struggle is the point.
For your first time, you did really great
I especially loved how when you encountered a problem (graphics drivers are notoriously difficult) you didn't just say "linux sucks" and left it there.
Thanks for giving linux a fair chance :)
For non technical people its a deal breaker
At some point I figured out I can just run "ubuntu-drivers" and Nvidia drivers work themselves out. It was Realtek wifi dongle that was a pain to get working. I had to find and install the right aircrack-ng drivers... the kicker is that the dongle was misreporting its model :/
I’m a Linux user too and I LOVE wasting everybody’s time whenever basic functionality is missing. It makes me feel like the Riddler or something!
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 TBH, and while Linux Mint is by far the best beginners distro. The problem he encountered is on them.
They use old kernel version for "stability reasons" but the thing is most modern hardware obviously doesn't work on old kernels.
Fortunately they're gonna change that next release. So they use the latest Kernel by default. So hopefully no more headaches
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 if that's so, why do people still use windows? (Spoiler: it came with the pc)
You have no idea how happy i was to see you figure out you needed a new kernel for your graphics card. Im a long time linux user and was like. "Ohhhhh no, why did mint ship with such an old kernel, this guy is going to give up before he starts." And im glad you got the best solution for this problem. You actually can manually install AMD graphics drivers from the website, and Ive done that in a specific scenario where I wasn't allowed to upgrade my kernel. But that solution is far from ideal so i was super happy yo see you get on the roght track without making horrible changes to your system through other trouble shooting steps. Good job!
Why is it okay for Linux to be this broken 8b the first place?
@@chistinelane that's not broken. On windows you have to install AMD or NVIDIA drivers in the first place. This is the same thing, but since it's a different type of system, people may not be aware of how drivers are handled. Now what IS broken is the Jump to Wayland vs X org as the display manager. X org used to be what was in charge of the graphical desktop environments, but all the devs jumped to Wayland because it fixes some core issues with X since it is fundamentally flawed being 4 decades old. The only problem is, now tons of things are actually broken in the Linux desktop environments because of this. It will eventually get better, but right now, something as simple as screen sharing is unbelievably painful if not impossible for most people.
@@chistinelaneit’s not broken, mint is just not bleeding edge and instead focused on stability. If you habe new hardware, choose rolling, get bleeding edge kernels and drivers and new stuff also works
@@givenfool6169
>now tons of things are actually broken
Sounds like things are broken.
@@exen900 or me, and the billions of other people who need a working os can just choose a working os and not have to deal with one where every step requires... All that.
Never have I ever seen a more fitting description of the linux experience than Rico bein the linux penguin.
lol
@@bogxd Use CachyOS (Really though)
i wanna add rico to my new linux distro's logo
Kaboom?
@@astro837 Yes Rico, Kaboom
Love how you’re taking the time to figure things out. Your approach to the process is perfect, keep at it and you’ll do amazing.
As a general rule of thumb, ALWAYS update the distro when you first launch it
True first update it sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade. Afterwards sudo apt autoremove. Additional sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt clean, is what I always do after installing a distribution.
Except, he did. One of the first things he did was go into the Mint update manager, and check for updates. The provided update manager didn't have any updates. Half way through the video, after an hour and a half of research, and he finally found the menu to manually update the kernel, which was required to use a GPU that's almost a year old. Users shouldn't have to know how to update their kernel, when they already ran the auto updater.
@@alexlowe2054 Yeah, that's why "EDGE" ISO exists to support latest hardware. Should have been on the top of download page tho
I'm actually very surprised that Linux Mint doesn't do this automatically, especially as everyone calls it a beginner friendly distro. Is auto update not a thing on Linux? Why should the user bother about kernel or OS updates? On Windows for example, by default, stuff like this happens automatically in the background, aswell as driver installation and updates, and even many app updates
@@meta7517 The regular Linux Mint Cinnamon he installed starts with Linux kernel driver 5.4(?), which can be used to revive older hardware. On a modern device, there is the Linux Mint Cinnamon EDGE, located at the bottom of the Linux mint downloads page, that defaults to Linux Kernel driver 6.5 for modern machines. You can setup auto update of packages or your kernel with a cronjob which will run scheduled operations you assign, although not recommended sometimes for your kernel because you may brick your system. I have a cronjob to update my Raspberry Pi PiHole. The idea of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind about Windows auto updates, it's a forced update. Some longer time users, switched to Linux, because they didn't like the direction Windows was taking with Win11, increase in user tracking/ads, concerns over Microsoft's Recall, etc. I follow the same reasoning with my iphone 11, I don't upgrade the IOS, because I know Apple's IOS updates tends to degrade older devices' performance.
"Gimp is essentially open source Photoshop"
Ha, you wish. In reallity, Gimp is open source hell.
pinta is paint
Have you looked at Photo-GIMP? It's a set of configs to make it a lot more similar to photoshop
Fr bruh I like Gimp but wtf is that ux, it's so unintuitive compared to PS and alternatives like Photopea
@@enashimo waiting for next version.....
@@enashimoyou aren't alone. A lot of people in the Linux community don't like GIMP. I wish there was a better alternative.
Maybe now that Canva has acquired Affinity, we'll see a Linux version of that at some point soon. But idk.
so just to say a couple of things:
CS2 works on linux, (why wouldnt it, steamdeck is linux based and cs2 is valve game), the fact is, games that use KERNEL anticheat (for example faceit&valorant) that works on driver level doesnt work on linux, and some battleye/easyanticheat games could not work too, but there is some compatibility, so many games will still work.
EXT4 is just mostly default filesystem on linux, its not fat based. there's many filesystems like XFS, BTRFS, etc.
The issue with drivers was yes, you have been using "old" kernel (opensource drivers are built-in in kernel like amdgpu, nvidia nouveau (for nvidia you need to install their proprietary driver after installation to have normal performance in heavy tasks) and some intel driver), because mint, ubuntu, (manjaro?) and other 'stable' distros are frequently using older versions of packages&kernels&maybeotherstuff by some amount of time so they can be sure that it works and don't break by the next system update, downside is, well, older versions of packages & kernels. for example, you updated to 6.5 kernel, while mainstream one rn is 6.9 which released in may.
desklets&applets&extensions are not OS feature but desktop enviroment (DE) feature, in this case, Cinnamon (mint's default). There's many DE's like GNOME, KDE, etc.
UPD: you installed obsidian from flathub source, which is kinda like 'docker', flathub is external source & universal packaging format for linux which includes all dependencies, the package, etc. in the thing you download. You could think of it like isolated portable program
UPD: i saw you liked my comment, TY! i edited it so the like dissapeared, sadly
very great video, keep doing this kind of stuff
i also didn't knew you could do that with panel in cinnamon, ty!
:)
jfyi, manjaro is arch based, it isn't a stable, but I think it holds packages for some time before updating
@@atikinbtw manjaro is just weird. It was probably good about 5 years ago, but now it's more often than not a mess of old packages that don't match AUR version requirements, invalidated keys and horrible organization.
@@wumi2419 agree, but I thought the correction was needed under a first-time user video
🤓🤓
@@atikinbtw I'm not a fan of the Manjaro team's direction, so I generally recommend Garuda Linux for people new to Linux.
That's not to say Manjaro is bad, they've done a lot of good: Teaming up with Pine64 to bring a mobile version of Manjaro for phones, and Pamac-all is by far the best wrapper for Pacman. Makes software installation super simple.
If you install pamac-all on Garuda, you'll rarely ever need to open a terminal. Super user-friendly.
After watching almost the entire video I couldn't finish it. Linux doesn't convince me hahaha but Windows has recently given me problems with Office.
That was what I didn't want to read hahaha but I think I can't deny it anymore
If you want to save time I used BNH Software and everything was very fast
@@Benjaminpro55 Yeah well I'm going to start with that, thanks man
WTF types "hahaha"?
@@ActuatedGear hahaha
17:16 when he said "my first idea is to compile" my heart skipped a beat
in that horrifying instant i thought the only possible way this could continue would be "the linux kernel from source"
Lmao so true
The gentoo pipeline
A fellow LFS user of culture, it seems.
@@softwarelivre2389 no actually, i use nixos
exactly my feeling
CS2 works fine on Linux. Valve's VAC is designed to work properly with Linux.
VAC isn't designed to work at all lol
Tru lol@@丷
"Works fine" is a bit of an overstatement. It runs like shit, even worse than on Windows. They've ruined Counter-Strike with CS2. Half the content of CS:GO is missing, there are more bugs than ever, and it runs like crap.
I had 250 to 300 fps on csgo and on cs2 i have 150 to 300, so it runs well, vac works well for what it's designed for (but not right now useful) and CS2 on Linux doesn't have much less FPS than on windows but yeah there's a few minor bugs right now and many game modes aren't there yet, but they are working on an AC
@@丷 what anticheat CS2 dosent have one.
tip. most of the linux community answers questions in a way that refers to all distros. It is best to include the distro you're using in your key words to get the simplest explanation
this is actually such a perfect representation of what moving the linux should look like
you're learning something new, take the time to go through your issues and actually learn
if you're not ready to run into issues, then stick to what you know
Is There any value you gain respect to windows when you actually learn? Is the lack of games and programs replaced by something more valuable than changing folders graphic and looking online for code Lines to fix the random problems?
@@stefanogandino9192 if you are a standard user of windows or linux, windows is significantly more intuitive off rip because most people have used it for their entire lives by now. If you’re doing anything in the command line Linux is significantly better and allows you to have more control over anything going on (also PowerShell looks like it was last updated September 10th, 2001, and has less resources to help you figure out whatever problem you’re trying to solve)
@@stefanogandino9192 computer literacy; knowledge is power
@@Coolkid245 i'm talking about something valuable, something i can actually use to do something that is not to brag how knowledge i am. It's a genuine question, it must have something more than that, i don't believe people are really switching to a less usefull os to say "look, i've the knowledge and i know how to change folders colors"
@@stefanogandino9192 what i think youre asking then is what software is available on linux thats not on/better than windows. short answer is nothing. if your computer exists solely for just using software then linux is not for you. however your comment seems to imply that knowledge is not valuable, or at least not tangible (nothing on the computer is). to that i say you are either 13 or ignorant of the world. knowledge and experience are the most valuable assets you can have, and no one can take it away from you
ext4 is the default Linux file system, and is not related to ExFAT 😄
Also ESP is a efi system partition
btrfs is better imo
@@luxluth A newbie is not going to utilise its backup features, so ext4 is a good start.
Ext4 is basically just the fourth extension to the Minix file system, so it’s tried and tested.
@@luxluth i can only recommend btrfs when users want to migrate to something more advanced. BTRFS is much more complex than ext4
@@luxluth you probably use Garuda linux 💀
I love how you talk and walk throughout everything, even the endless troubleshooting on random reddit posts. It feels really organic and fun to watch
i've been a linux user for well over a year now so nothing here is all that new to me but the more i watched the video the more i thought "wait, this is awesome, finally a really approachable video of how an average windows or mac user would act when using linux for the first time".
i LOVE your pragmatism and your vibe in general. if i ever wanna get someone to try linux, i'll send them this video.
I don't think you are going to get good results. This was a interesting video but i have no idea what half the things in this video even are and i am much more computer savvy then the average person. It seemed like a lot of stuff the average person will never touch while being way more confusing and prone to problems compared to Windows.
@@mastersparkles1584linux users that constantly yap about them using linux love fixing errors that'd likely not appear in windows just so that they can boost their self-esteem since theres nothing else going on in their life. And then, after spending 20 hours on r/iusearchandiwearfemboythighs, they wonder, "why are windows users not using linux yet? They stupid?"
i won't count how many times i burst out laughing. your sense of humor perfectly aligns with mine. also i'm switching to dual booting linux in a few weeks/months and god, this was the best video to soothe my nerves and sweep away my uncertainties. i am SO READY for this glorious linux experience. as a programmer by day and by night i cannot WAIT to get to tinkering and customizing. thank you for making this!
As a Linux User, You did one of the best switch I saw in "I swich to Linux" videos. From now if you want more performance, it will cost you time and knowledge.
Just some basic things I saw in your video :
- don't install from .deb packages, use your package manager it will help you updating your system and all your apps. a .deb need you to manually install the app at each update.
- for OBS the problem can be linked with hardware acceleration, using the flatpak should be the simplest fix (as flatpak is installed by default on Linux Mint) (flatpak merge an app and its dependency so it break less (I do really simple), install it from the sofware manager app, you see sometimes there is 2 version of the same app one is the flatpak the other one is the normal app)
- when you tried to uninstall Obsidian, it didn't worked because you installed it as a flatpak the correct command to uninstall it is "flatpak remove md.obsidian.Obsidian"
- I use copyq I don't know why it crashed your desktop
You picked the right distro for starting, I hate when I see people that pick some weird distro for their first, Linux mint is my go to for easy installation and usage. Hope you will keep using Linux.
I love Mint and respect their work very much. But it's hard to recommend a distro where the user takes 1.5h to configure the screen correctly just because they are providing a 2021 kernel by default
@@marcelorauber_ I'm a bit on the verge on this one. On one side, yes the graphics driver should just be there and work (or at least tell the user, that we don't have one running right now but if you update your kernel, you will get it). On the other hand, Mint has a tradition of being installed on older hardware, for which everything is already available.
What's even funnier: Setting up my Nvidia GPU was way easier on Mint. I open the driver manager, it recognizes my GPU, lets me select between nouveau and the official Nvidia driver. Click Apply, Reboot, done! Maybe they should present AMD cards in the driver manager as well. It doesn't have to actually do anything, but just acknowledge that the GPU is there and working (or not).
OBS issue may be due to missing codecs or something similar (not sure if mint ships with any), but the artifacting definitely was compression issue.
@@arseniysemin1361 if it's codec related, Flatpak will solve it.
Else it could just be missconfiguration like putting the h264 CPU profile on slowest. But as it's on a yt channel, he should know basic OBS configuration
Not sure what you meant by "weird distro" but depending on the objective I can totally see why in some context you'd want to try something that doesn't hold your hand as much.
e.g. if you have a 2 weeks vacation with little to no plans, or plan to make a video out of it, you're probably fine trying something that might require you to invest almost 10h, but yield greater return in understanding of the ecosystem / personalized setup.
Shipping the distro with an outdated kernel is definitely a bruh moment.
Well, the iso was probably old and was relying on you to update the kernel. Mint is also downstream from Ubuntu. Which means they don’t always have access to the latest kernel updates.
@@lukeh990 But he downloaded it right from the front page before formatting. How can it be outdated already?
@@jorge69696 Shipping not the latest kernel is a common practice in the world of distros. Usually it’s called a LTS release where. Usually it’s the better choice for stability reasons.
@@jorge69696Some distros are updated daily
@@jorge69696 Because Linux Mint releases are based on Ubuntu LTS releases which have 2 years in-between, Mint is very stable and robust, but since its based on LTS releases its not always up to date with the latest hardware
Feeling very proud of you taking time to figure out and fix the issues, thank you
You shouldnt have to fix complex issues yourself in a OS makes it Tedious and downright impossible for new users just scaring them off. SO unless your a programmer or a tech nerd 🤓 I don't recommend linux at all 😂
@@Space97.Sound to me you are afraid of putting in some effort to get things working properly. Its also not nearly as bad as you make it sound like.
@@Space97.at least in the video there were no really complex issues. I bet it would take the average guy around an hour or two at most to set everything up. After all google exists and any and I mean ANY issue I've had I just googled it and takes 5 minutes at most searching mostly reddit
@@Space97. You're not making any sense. A user used to Windows, finds problems on Windows as something normal, so used to fixing them, then it is so opaque, that you don't even have the slightest idea that there's a problem in the background somewhere, unless you know about it. Forced updates that are done on your working/gaming time, the bloatware that's installed by force the first time you use it, and so on... I don't recommend Windows at all
@@liquidebleu and said bloatware can uninstall via powershell, thats equivalent uninstalling in linux using terminal, where the problem ?.
auto update can disable via policy.
and not to mention, how linux sometimes giving random error, when you search it, thats just make it worst, where the solution is pretty simple in reality.
yeah, linux isn't for newbie.
really well made and informative video. you comment like a perfect middleground between average consumer and nerd - love it. just discovered this channel and im loving the fast paced and funny vids :)
Some pointers to help.
- On KDE we have something called krunner which is basically the spotlight from Linux, i dont know if there is something similar to Cinnamon, but if youre not afraid to mix and match, krunner runs on any DE.
- Obsidian was installed with something called flatpak, since there are literally thousands of linux systems each one with a different way to install software someone invented flatpaks which are basically universal apps that you can install alongside your normal apps and are avaliable on every linux system. The linux software center dont distinguish between flatpaks and normal programs because on the UI they are pretty much the same.
- Most linux have a font installer so most of the time you can double click the font and it will have a install option
- I do think cinnamon has a builtin clipboard manager, most DEs do. I do remember KDE 3, of the era of Windows XP and it had one. So, my guess woulf say that is hidden or disabled. But nothing prevents you to use a third party one like you did.
- Screen recording on Linux is kind of a mess. And you didnt even get to the Wsyland thingy yet
- You graphics card was newer than the system you where running, thats why it didnt worked at first. Its like you have to run Windows update or manually install the driver before Windows support a newer GPU. You where basically running with the "Generic Adapter Driver" which doesnt really support scaling and other stuff. But the mint team should be better at advertising that your kernel is old and that you need to update it, which would solve your problem asap.
- Anticheat is something game by game. CS2 and all Valve titles run normally. I've also played ghost recon and the division. Anything that doesnt habe AC also runs fine like GTA Online or Phasmophobia. But stuff like Fortnite and Rainbow Six does not. Also, forget anything from RIOT.
- Also, the partition thing. ESP is a default partition used to boot an OS, thst bein Linux or Windows. Its a normally hidden partition with only the necessary data to boot your OS. Linux is actually installed in the other ext4 partition, which has nothing to do with exfat, just similar names, no relationship.
Oh, and welcome to Linux, i hope you have a good stay.
wow, i've used krunner for ages (win-r to run commands without mouse) and now i just see it has a built in calculator beside the apps :D
thank you ;)
wtf i didnt know i could just calculate stuff right there.
You can also convert between units, use the dictionary with the define keyword and go to a website typing the URL hahaha
the UI was actually showing that this app was from flatpak. i think his problem was kinda tricky: he knew this extra bit that he could install apps from terminal but did not know enough to realize the specific scope of that command. I'm afraid no UI could have stopped him from missing bit. what would have a slight chance of working kinda seamlessly would be if there was a common CLI for installing all kinds of apps but then the user would still have to have that command in mind and not apt, which is unlikely.
I liked how he mentioned that installing apps from CLI is actually kinda convenient, so looks like there might be a theoretical CLI that would work at abstraction layer just above apt and flatpak (or more) and aid user with any ambiguity -- and it would have to be known well enough to "overshadow" the apt.
Screen recording works fine. Even on wayland. In fact i do plenty of screen records from wayland. Both spectacle and obs work great.
learning window managers is a crazy experience
Good one though. Window managers are awesome. Especially dynamic one.
Hyprland on top
Yeah I swear to lord I installed openbox a while ago and even enabling dark mode in apps by default is such a pain in the ass. And I already have some experience with WMs.
@@another-niko-pfp-holderI just use kvantum for styling apps on wms
@@another-niko-pfp-holder you can style stuff pretty easily using kvantum for qt5 apps. It's even easier in gtk with the built in style app
one thing to note for 4:00-ish - you don't need to partition a disk in Windows to get it ready to install any Linux distro on it. The partitioning can be handled by the other OS as well. This is particularly a good idea to do in your case, where you are dedicating the entire disk. When you assign a disk label in Windows and create a partition in it, you will need to remove that partition to make way for your Linux partition anyway
that "deez nuts" joke with that kind of delivery sent a little victorian blush to my face, the one you get when you giggle but you are ashamed of it, so you gracefully cover your face with a hand, aka retro anime chuckle
nice
The fact that you did your research and really tried to troubleshoot is admirable, you actually gave it a shot and I'm happy for that :)
You probably already know, but there are a lot of different desktop experiences on Linux, you tried Cinnamon, but there's also Plasma and Gnome. For Tiling window managers there's Hyprland, bspwm, sway and i3 and a lot of DE and TWM I won't mention, every single one offering a different experience so that you can work in the way you want to work!
The obsidian part...is due to it being installed as a Flatpak, not as a "traditional" package, you can think of it as being installed from the windows store instead of downloading an installer, so you have to uninstall it using flatpak or the software manager.
Most won't give it a chance, get disappointed and go back to Windows or Mac.
@@johanb.7869 linux L
@@johanb.7869*most will give it a chance, get frustrated by having to dig and troubleshoot for hours and learn 100 technical things they didn't have to on Windows or Mac, decide it's not worthwhile, then switch back.
@johanb.7869 Yeah, because first impressions count in this. Whether that's with software or getting a job. Linux needs to massively improve its experience for non tech people.
The terminal command to uninstall a Flatpak package is `flatpak uninstall md.obsidian.Obsidian`
The graphics driver issue was kinda unfortunate and you having the patience to figure it out is amazing. Great video!
Little PSA for anyone else wanting to try out Linux now:
1st thing you should after installing the system is check for updates.
He installed the Cinnamon edition.
For latest kernel, he could have used the EDGE edition.
1.5 hours saved, @Bog!
@@Feliks_WR Should just install Arch lmao
@@Feliks_WR idk why mint doesn't just make the EDGE iso the default, or at the very least have a BIG warning at the top suggesting installing the EDGE iso if you have a modern computer. So many threads on reddit etc of people having issues due to the outdated kernel and mesa in the default install...
Updating wouldn't have fixed anything. Linux Mint uses old packages, so if you need a new kernel you have to install it manually
Ain't no way that's the real name 😭
(Rizz/Skibidi edition when?)@@Feliks_WR
berfect cliffhanger at the end.
...he said Linux, I heard it, I heard it in my head and I refuse to unhear it!
huisssaaatana!
6:00 I lolled. Never grow old, fam.
7:42 The "ESP" actually stands for "EFI System Partition". If I remember correctly, It's basically a way for the EFI to know that the partition is bootable and some other things.
No it's just EFI, BIOS uses a boot sector.
also formatted the drive on windows which you shouldn't as it's going to format/create an ESP and ext4 partition anyways
so if he didn't formatted the drive on windows that pop up wouldn't be there
so, unnecessary/confusing step for new users
@@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2efi is more or less an exe. the _esp_ is a partition that has to be a certain filesystem type as it contains efi payloads.
dope and thannnks
@@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2yes, but they uefi interface is often called bios
In Linux mint, you can just double click on a font package and it'll open it in the fonts app via which you can install it in 1 click.
Man, I'm SOOO glad you figured out the kernel driver issue so calmly and did not make a scandal about it. Many others would have ditched Linux instantly upon hitting that issue. Hopefully mint catches up with it's kernel versions, since it's one of the more friendly and recommended distros for Windows users.
And see, this is another reason why I will never use a Linux operating system, my windows can register, recognize and download shit stupid fast. And smooth with zero lag. Not bad for a 400watt gaming build esp when it can push out 4k out the DP port and hit close to 150fps on a 2GB (settings at max max) gtx 760 OC made by MSI, nah I’m good.
@@TechGamer-247 yeah, including all that microsoft force fed apps and software. Yesterday i uninstalled clip champ 4 times from my sisters pc. Today it was installed again. Linux for now doesn't have the convenience, like cooking your own meal or eating fast food. The ones that believe in the benefits will be willing to sacrifice some time and effort.
This is great as an introduction. I also love how you went for a bunch of things that I actively avoid and find cluttering (middle start icons, animations, icon customization, snapping windows), but that Linux is also my favorite because it easily lets me avoid all of that. I learned a few things here too.
your patience is very graceful and pleasant, especially when you run into a technical issue and figure it out
Probably the *biggest* mistake you can make as a Linux newcomer is choose a distro based on the look presented on the distro's website. A Linux distro does *not* determine the look of your system, everything (and I mean everything) look and feel related is customizable and you should only choose a distro based on the performance and features it offers.
I think as a Linux newcomer you don't necessarily have the understanding for features to make a good call - so being easy and getting a default layout that appears good to you is not a bad way of choosing. For many things like wayland vs xorg, or systemd, snaps, flatpaks, window managers are all technical buzzwords with no meaning, except for those who either have been using Linux for a while or like bouncing between distros.
For a fresh user wanting something to use and maybe, just maybe, later want to delve deeper into Linux, looks are going to be the main call. Pop in a live CD, and see what feels best to get started with.
At least as a newbie myself - it's my approach.
And this is why i picked manjaro based on a genuine suggestion, worst mistake of my life
Hard disagree.
1/ Probably the biggest mistake is nuking your data by formatting the wrong storage device or making a single character mistake in command line and deleting your important files...
2/ Also the default user interface is probably the most used and the most tested one. So, if you want a smooth experience (and you should want new users to have a good first impression if you want Linux to succeed) that's what you should use first. Things should work well out of box. A new user might also not have the expertise or patient to completely reconfigure the look and feel of the OS.
As a newcomer. I chose Linux server and learned it.
@@szirsp hey, you're so right, experienced users tend to ignore what first experience is like, that's a thing in pretty much everything else, not just linux. tutorials are overlooked, gamedevs only care about endgame, etc
I've been running Linux as my main system for over a year now and it's SO REFERSHING to see you struggle with the first issues that I also had back then. It really puts into perspective how far I've gone with really understanding what my computer is doing, and not relying on the OS to hold my hand with everything.
This is of course not written with the reason of bragging, but moreso as a letter to anyone who's trying or considering switching to Linux. My 2 cents to this hypothetical person reading my comment are:
Don't get discouraged by bugs and issues, you'll figure them out sooner or later. We all do. And when you do stick around with the Linux community, you'll look back fondly at your first hours or days stumbling around in the terminal :)
"Don't get discouraged by bugs and issues, you'll figure them out sooner or later." - wasting time for no real gain must be a deal of your life then lol. I like that linux community say "games work even better than on windows" while my friends trying to correctly connect to each other... 10 hours. If you dont value your time, linux is a great choice.
@@ThePsycho211 "wasting time for no real gain must be a deal of your life then lol"
Yes. But also, if you presume Linux is of no gain to you personally, then you shouldn't listen to anyone telling you to use it. Linux is a different operating system with different strengths and weaknesses than Mac or Windows and it's only natural it will fit a different target audience.
man you're so much fun and have a good heart, first time viewer, subbed 😄
I'm honestly impressed by your dedication to actually troubleshooting the problems and trying it all out, unlike some others who just insulted linux and got back to using windows after some minor problems they were too lazy too figure out and never touched linux again.
Cheers!
"minor problems they were too lazy too figure out" This is the exact naive linux user arrogance that will continue to turn people off using the OS. Just stop it! That attitude as much as the troubleshooting required is what sends user back to windows/mac. I'm commenting as a long time linux and windows user who has just installed mint again recently and had to plough through much of the same old BS with hardware/drivers etc.
@@Ash_18037 well, the problem wasn't due to linux, It was due to bogxd installing a normal version instead of the edge version. Well, I agree that attitude does scare away new users, but if they can't accept troubleshooting, then linux RIGHT NOW isn't made for them.
@Ash_18037 I mean it is true though. I was blown away at just how few problems I had with Linux Mint compared to Windows 10 as long as I wasnt actively diving into something technical. Windows has give me countless issues with basicly every single driver, wifi issues, printer issues, headphone issues, bluetooth issues, randomly corrupting itself over night issues after I installed Mint and vowed to move stuff over bit by vit everytime Windows annoyed me which was drasticly accelerated by it nuking itself and failing to take my Mint partition down with it.
Mint has just worked out of the box without me having to install anything.
@@Ash_18037 I belive you will always have to go though some troubleshooting when you swap to something you are unfamilliar with. For example when and android or IPhone user swap they always run into issues. They will have to troubleshoot the issues by looking it up and digging trough settings. or learn a new way of doing things. They will have the exact same problem as you are describing as only existing in linux. I find linux to be more stable, easier to troubleshoot, and easier to maintain than windows.
Next time on Bog: "I try every Linux desktop environment out there."
Desktop hopping, next he will distro hopping and when you hop a lot it's called hoppetitus😋
@@johanb.7869 I once hopped from Gnome to KDE but Chrome or Firefox liked to store stuff in a Gnome keyring that KDE didn't start.
would be fire ngl
video is gonna be 3 weeks long 💀
@Just-Another_Channel With Linux it's actually relatively simple, and you can have multiple DEs installed, and switch between them, but there isn't that many Desktop Environments worth considering imho: 1 Gnome and Gnome Feedback, 2 KDE, 3 Xfce, 4 Cinnamon and LXDE and maybe MATE. That's it.
If I am not wrong, the kernel problem could have probably been avoided by using the "EDGE" ISO that linux mint unfortunately puts all the way at the bottom of the web page, where it also explains that this edge version is used to support newer hardware. I am guessing it's because mint is commonly used for older laptops, but with the beginner-friendly title it acquired, they should put both ISOs side by side.
this is an ecosystem thing
LTS and rolling are pushed sxs side by side and then there are "other downloads" :)
I read in a blog post that new kernels will be the default from the next release onward. So this problem should cease to exist then.
This was fixed with the release of Mint 22, which basically makes it so the EDGE ISO is the default.
So in the end, this was the normal Linux experience. A headache for having normal stuff barely working.
The downside of freedom is that you need knowledge. You can really do great things with Linux but I understand why many people shy away from it
@@SyBorg-to3ni I don't mind knowledge but having your distro crash like that is not a good look. Very rarely happened to me on Windows and Ubuntu but within the first few hours, Mint decided to crash for no reason just like in the video.
@@okko7788 Really unfortunate :/ I agree it shouldn't just crash like that
@@okko7788 oh so your desktop environment called Cinnamon crashed and you decided that the whole OS crashed? Don't lie, you had "explorer.exe stopped responding" in Windows many times which is basically the same thing.
An OS crash is globally associated with the Windows' Blue Screen of Death ironically.
@@theseangle The dumbest comment ever.
You really think people who actually want to get home and work, and not just stay in their basement tinkering with software all day, will care if "TeCkUNIKELLY JuSt tHe DeSkTOp EnvIRonMeNT CrAsHeD" when their hipster OS that they tried to install craps out on them?
Cool video, I hope you keep exploring Linux!
Cheers!
"Classic Mac" means literally "Classic Mac" - as in what shows up when you Google exactly that. Usually just using "left" side sets window buttons up to modern Mac-like buttons.
I think that was obvious, but only the X moved to the left, not the buttons for fullscreen and minimize. Having them split up is not classic mac, so Bog was confused.
@@gracelandtoo6240 Split up like that was the MacOS way until the turn of the millennium or so. System 4 through 9 I think.
@@gracelandtoo6240 Reread what I said, I said "literally Classic Mac" - as in Mac OS 9 and before. You're thinking modern Mac - Mac OS X.
Great video! The point you made right at the end about how every OS takes some time to get used to is spot on. People think they can just pick up Linux as a drop-in replacement, but there are so many little details that make using it confusing and annoying for the first couple of months. But, if you do stick with it for a couple of months, all the problems seem to fade away and it's just like using anything else.
The big benefit to Linux is the freedom it allows for the user. There is no way for something like Microsoft Recall to get shoved down your throat if you use Linux. Even if some version of Linux were to try, there are a million other Linux versions you could switch to. Linux is totally unique in that regard. That's why you see Linux nerds talking about Linux being free and free software all the time. It's the freedom they're jazzed about. They're saying "free" like free speech, not free beer. Although Linux is also free like free beer, and that's also cool.
I love the speed at which you fly through these operating systems. This truly makes simple things like just doing random stuff like creating folders or whatever fun.
a true throwback to when using a computer was fun and novel.
and it proves that it's not about the OS one runs, but what one does with it
Linux Mint is a 'stable distro" as in it doesn't update as frequently, which is good for companies that want as little downtime as possible, or people who don't want to update and find some new bugs, but using a 7700 XT can be a pain because it's using an older version of mesa and the LInux kernel. A distro like OpenSUSE, Fedora, Arch, derivatives of them, or using distros that ship newer kernels and mesa like Pop OS but still use a stable base might help with a GPU that's fairly new
As a general rule, if you want to install something, check in the Software manager first rather than going on the web.
or if you know terminal you can search for apps there (e.g. apt search ), you don't have to remember every single package name
That is one of the things that I hate about Linux distros, I absolutely love the website based distribution of software with bundled dll. It feels more freedom than package managers or app stores. Package managers is what I would want to use to build software, pip/npm/etc. But I loathe them to manage software, I like my software to be standalone enough from the OS that i could install it in a USB, go to another computer with the same OS, an execute it with all the settings that I had without installation, this means to have in the same folder all the resources, libraries and config files of a user-space software. My Ideal OS would share exactly 0 libraries with its user space software, all user space software has to brings its own, also all user space software is so sandboxed that even if their libraries are outdated it doesn't matter. This user space software then it is distributed in a tar/tar.gz/zip/rar in websites and you install it by simply decompressing it wherever you want. That is the dream, at least my dream. Windows is what is closer to this, albeit windows has some system wide libraries, software usually split configuration and resources in different folders and has useless installers.
@crwn1337c a l m
@crwn1337 There's a reason people like flatpaks: they cannot, by design, have dependency conflicts. The downside is that they take more storage.
@crwn1337I don’t agree with him but this is a common idea among developers. They want to manage everything by themselves because they don’t trust the OS enough
The first half was really relatable, in the second half everything was too smooth
But you really helped me I was wondering why my laptop always got so hot, turns out I did not use my graphics card
Windows: For gaming
Mac: For work
Linux: For doing whatever you want
>install linux
>instantly gets into a 1.5 hour long driver battle to get the right resolution and refresh rate of your monitor
Yep, that is the linux experience at its finest
Its cuz he installed old shit. With the pace of linux development nowadays, you should be using rolling release distros as a noob. Like fedora
@@AndRei-yc3ti HUH`?????
it was mint's fault for having an old kernel is their latest release LOL
no way user fault that it didn't work
@Ikxi its mints fault. Its the users fault for using stuff with old kernels and drivers and software. Gotta use bewer stuff
Windows easier, why people dont use LTSC WINDOWS 11 without any TPM 2.0 requiertment even old laptop can run LTSC version
@@AndRei-yc3ti How is a newbie user gonna know that mint uses an old kernel that's gonna make their gpu not work
that's too much of a new user to ask
The reason you were unable to uninstall Obsidian from the terminal is because Obsidian was installed via a package manager called Flatpak. It is essentially a universal package manager for Linux distros that also has some handy features such as sandboxing.
Problem is that he tried to use package tool to remove it. This won't work because flatpack is universal as you said, but APT is not. From terminal you can still remove flatpack, try $ flatpack remove md.obsidian.Obsidian
They can also be very annoying. Steam flatpak doesn't allow different disks, Browser flatpaks seem to not save 'last folder' location when saving files, just starts in a temp folder. There are probably others I haven't bumped into as yet. But being just a day or two into trying linux the only thing that stood out to me was flatpak bad. And the pop_os app store needs a better indicator of flat vs native install. 🤣
@@sociallyferal4237you can allow the steam flatpak to access other disks, you just need to use a program called flatseal. With that you can change what folders and storage devices are available to a flatpak program (and a few other things, but those are usually not important)
@@sociallyferal4237 There is a flatpak you can install called flatseal. It lets you set permissions for other flatpaks, as flatpaks can't access user files/directories. That might be why steam as a flatpak doesn't detect other drives on your pc
@@sociallyferal4237 The reason for this is sandboxing. Flatpak apps are sandboxed by default, meaning it is isolated from the rest of the system. This makes it more secure, as say, an untrusted application can't store arbitrary files to disk, or communicate with other processes. You can manually grant applications control outside the sandbox. Flatseal is a GUI application that makes this easy. Refer to the flatpak docs to learn more.
Nice! It's so interesting to see how a new user might try things out. Some notes to the video:
- ext4 is actually not exFAT, it's a different filesystem. There are actually older versions as well, like ext3, ext2, and ext
- You couldn't uninstall Obsidian with `apt`, because it was a flatpack. Unfortunately there are multiple competing solutions for package management, which is combined on the UI, but you need to know the source of the package if you want to do it from the terminal. There are also snaps, which is the package type for yet another package manager present on most Ubuntu-based systems. And let's not talk about other systems, like Arch, Gentoo, or Nix. :D
Great video!
This is really well made. It has good humor, shows good progress in not a lot of time, and honest effort.
A lot of things you might assume are standard linux features are actually features of specific applications, which makes them slightly harder to google. For example the creating an alias/link, you should have been searching how to do it in nemo, the default file browser for cinnamon. Linux as a whole doesn't have a file browser, since every desktop environment has different opinions on how they should work.
It was really fun watching someone install and use Linux for the first time! That experience with Mac terminals helps a ton.
One weird issue you ran into that wasn't obvious: while partitioning your drive during setup, it said "Windows is already installed on this hard drive" when it wasn't there at all, so that 300 GB of space you allocated is just empty (hence why your Windows drive popped up separately later as 109GB in size).
What happened is, when you previously nuked the drive, all that happened is the OS labeled a bunch of stuff as "deleted" and left it at that. Unfortunately, it sometimes ends up leaving the stuff in place that tells your BIOS (and Linux) "hey, there's a Windows install here", hence why it warned you.
There might be a way to wipe that 300GB, add it to your Linux logical volume as an additional physical volume (assuming Linux Mint created a logical volume), and expand the file system, but otherwise you'd have to try the risky operation of shuffling all the data from 300GB into the disk waaay down to the beginning of the disk, or just wipe and reinstall. Hopefully the first option is possible, though it's a bit involved.
what is it ...... wassaht issss ittttt 30:57
We’ll never know
A cliff hanger
It is so interesting to see the perspective of someone who is new but still pretty open minded trying out Linux. It is definitely a type of content/discussion that I don't feel there is enough of.
As some context I've been using Linux extensively since I found out about it (literally since like 6th grade lol). Because I have always been pretty into learning and making things work exactly the way I want (even when it involves a steep learning curve) I have never really felt any significant frustration with Linux even though I have consistently jumped into advanced stuff that I would never recommend to a more 'normal' beginner. At the same time I really enjoy helping other people learn it and get things set up so I am very aware of how much things can vary depending on the person, what they want to do, and how they were introduced.
I think that in addition to people who are new to Linux, this video could benefit people who are in a similar position as me who 1.) may rarely encounter problems because we have already set things up and know how to avoid them and 2.) have the experience, knowledge, skills, and mindset that often makes solving the ones that do come up seem trivial and quick. When you are at that stage it is really easy to get out of touch with what new users go through.
It is stuff like your video that I think can help bridge the gap for those people and ultimately result in much better help, tips, improvements to the software, and support from experienced users that will ultimately help make it even better for new users.
I'm about to switch to Linux in a few weeks, so I watch a lot of videos about Linux, and somehow seeing you figure things out and solve problems is the most interesting and useful stuff I've seen in a while (and your PC building video was also really great). Keep making more videos like this one! 😊🤓
Switched a couple of weeks back! How did this go for you?
I am also curious about his switch.
@@fredrikbystrom7380 I recently switched back to linux (pop os) and honestly it's been seamless for me
It's cute that the whole "Let's install apps!" section gets "ruined" by the fact that Linux comes with a bunch of user favorite programs by default.
Remember when Windows used to ship with a full Office suite and a handful of games?
When did window come with office suite!!.. i only remember notepad and ie. Favourite thing to do after installing windows is to play mine sweeper to kill the time drivers are getting downloaded along with the software that one can actually use
@@nssandhu4401 Pretty sure it was sometimes part of the bloatware suite pre-installed for you by the OEM. And unless you paid extra, it would be just a demo | trial | starter edition anyways.
@@mskiptr This^.
It was NEVER part of the programs Windows shipped - the closest thing to Office that Windows shipped was Microsoft WordPad.
@@ThatLinuxDudeOEMs do install office suite, even whennits unlicensed.
linux can come with a full experience or with literally 0 apps, it depens on the distro. Linux isnt just a single os, its a core thats used by many different "oses" called distros. (which are all wildly different)
Long time MX loyal user here. Sounds like you're having fun!
Just to mention, adobe now under their contract can have anything you make and claim it as your own.
This is why us Linux users choose freedom
You can also use an older version of Photoshop like cs6 on Linux almost perfectly under wine
@@L0tsen You can use modern versions for the most part as well AFAIK
@@fotnite_the creative suite (official) won't work under bottles etc. But cracked versions may, I personally haven't tried.
@@fotnite_ i just want premier to come to linux because davinci sucks for me (too much issues)
@@Cmdrbzrdwell that and GPU acceleration still doesn't work.
Smol tip to get used to the terminal: most CLIs (terminal programs) have a --help option that displays all the different sub-commands and options, so if you wanna know everything you can do with apt you can run "apt --help". That way you learn the terminal without leaving the terminal, and make every other Linux user proud.
There's also "man command". That displays the manual page.
I would say man is actuyally more helpful, as it has in depth explanations of each option.
@@deepspacecow2644 Depends on the situation, sometimes I like to have a simpler overview of the options
@@deepspacecow2644 Texinfo also has good info too
The 'info' command tends to have better docs than 'man'. But those are usually long, --help is often enough, especially when you're starting.
the funny thing about this video coming out now is that i just also switched to linux
Welcome to our cult. You must worship Linus Torvalds every day now for bringing peace and joy to this cruel planet.
@@another-niko-pfp-holder 😂😂 never forget Stallman 😂
Haha same
Welcome to the cult and I pray for a smooth experience, because the gods forbade me from experiencing smoothness. At least I traded my windows hate relationship with a linux love-hate relationship :D
nah, it's not random at all. These videos existed all the time, and is just now that you have linux stuff in your google history that youtobe starts to recommend you this stuff.
One of the best "Switched to Linux" videos, you went into it with the correct frame of mind & attitude towards Linux.
A thing that's undersold to new users is distro choice does matter, it's a little more than personal choice, when it comes to your "out of the box" experience.
There is a reason Linux Mint is one of the recommended distros for new users.
I love how gitty and excited this guy is playing around with his desktop, I have the exact same feeling every time!
the actual linux experience: going absolutely insane trying to install matlab, and just dualbooting for it in the end.
MATLAB supports RHEL, Ubuntu and Debian with native packages. Works on my machine(tm).
using MATLAB rn on Linux
I lot of what you are calling Linux or your os is simply your desktop environment (Cinnamon in this case) one of the very common things newcomers to Linux do is conflate their os with their de, you could install or setup a different de and have a radically different experience. I hope you continue to explore the Linux world there is a lot to see
Ya it was confusing for me at first too. I only realized what a DE was when I googled how to setup peek at desktop in Fedora and someone in the forum pointed out that it's a GNOME question.
Linux is just the kernel. Mint is the distribution and Cinnamon is the desktop environment.
@@johanb.7869 Yep, that’s why a lot of people call it GNU/Linux because gnu utils take care of the user space stuff while Linux is simply the kernel
To be fair, I think most people would call it / search for "Linux" since these distinctions don't exist on Windows and macOS. Both of these OS'es just come with their own integrated GUIs and that's it.
@@johanb.7869 Yep, I chose to just call it Linux and not GNU/Linux (technically you could also be using a GNU replacement but that’s a niche of a niche) is simply “Linux” is what most people know it by
It took me like 2 days to get Nvidia drivers to work, just had to manually delete the old files and reinstall the drivers via terminal and everything works now. Man i love linux...
Ah, someone else who is taking the Linux pill. Appreciate the look into your successes and troubles installing and running Mint! Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your experience with the switch.
This video was basically a "think aloud" session, a common technique to conduct UI/UX design user studies. And it was really interesting, hearing your thought process, assumptions and so on! It highlighted some of Linux's idiosyncrasies that give beginners trouble. Things like this are really valuable information for people designing Linux desktop environments.
I noticed the Penguin of Madagascar in the thumbnail lol
haha, yes sir, it's Rico
Thats a nice touch
Also liked them dancing at the "What can you even do with Linux?" part
@@bogxd kaboom rico?
since when has “noticed” meant “saw a very obvious thing intended to be seen”?
Mint cinnamon is also the distro i'm using! It's really great for a first time linux user (like me) and it's insanely reliable.
There's a bit of built in software that you may have missed called driver manager that fetches stuff like your graphics driver for you, yes it does work with nvidia drivers. The mint forums are also pretty helpful and seem pretty fair with new users who have no idea what's going on.
Aside from Minecraft running just fine, there's also a lot of steam games with proton support that I also don't usually run into problems with.
While I did have to swap my main desktop back to windows, I do still have my laptop on mint while I wait for like 2 programs to gain linux support. Mostly corsair's ique software and like 1 game that does have support planned. I would have used OpenRGB but i wasn't a fan of how it works.
I'm so glad you chose mint to start
Ventoy is great for your bootable usb once installed you just drag and drop the iso file in the ventoy directory then when you boot the drive it will give you the option to boot any of the iso on the drive works great if you wanna try other distro and it also work for windows.
and you can make it look super sleek!
I got a 16G USB and put in there: Arch (because one day i am gonna do it... I swear), my beloved Fedora KDE, Fedora XFCE for Older Hardware, Fedora Everything so i can install a customized setup if I want/need, system rescue bcs you never no if you break sth and last but not least Tails in case i want to do some Browsing on a Public PC
I have a 64 gb Ventoy drive that I once had about 20 ISOs on, including but not limited to Windows, several Fedora versions, Debian, Arch, Pop!_OS, and Solus
Yes Ventoy was great for trying various live distros quickly and easily
well, if i simply have to install a single OS i wont bother with ventoy, simply cause it takes an extra 1 or 2 steps compared to using rufus since u have to disable something in the bios related to security or ventoy wont work
Also a shoutout to iVentoy, which is what I use to skip the whole USB thing and go straight to booting off the network (pxeboot)
30:55 ur favorate os system is what... IS WHAT. WHAT IS IT..
Windows 😂
. That's his favourite OS
@@starryskies0naw man, I’d say his fav is Apple bc he just switched. And same with me, after switching from an Android, I’m NEVER going back to android, and I will never use a Linux. All that just to “recognize some shit” my windows is faster at recognizing stuff, it started installed all my drivers and everything bf i did a damn thing. And this was after installing windows.
@@TechGamer-247 real man I recently switched from a samsung flagship to apple never going back to them androids, the os feels so rushed and half-baked, everything works better on the iphone from games to battery life to camera and animations, Linux isn't even half-baked its ⅛baked that's how bare bones it is, would choose windows over it any day it just works and it ain't that bad like u can't say you dont have freedom on windows
@@222mattPOC: Apple is Basicly Linux haha
As a 1.5 year Linux user, I learned a lot of things from this video
Well done. One of the few "Linux reviews" that depict the fun aspect of having the freedom to customize YOUR operating system to YOUR liking.
the arch wiki may be intended for arch users first, but by god is it full of good info for everyone who may need to find solutions to things.
also, screen recording should work just fine, you're probably running into something being missing for it to work properly.
My first thought was it may be a Wayland issue, but I don't know if Mint Cinnamon uses it already.
@@anomyymi0108 They have experimental Wayland support that's not enabled by default.
@@anomyymi0108Nope, still on xorg
@@anomyymi0108 Only as an experimental option that you can choose on Login.
Great video! I switched to Linux Mint full-time about a year ago and I'm never going back. I was also curious what the initial setup process is like for someone new to Linux and I'm glad to see it's as smooth as this.
You did a great job on this video! 👏 I've been using Linux for a while now and it's great to see more people embarking on this journey. It's amazing how the system gives us the freedom to customize everything. Good luck and keep up the inspiring videos! 🚀 #TeamLinux
This is just Cinnamon Desktop Environment , if you installed something different like gnome it will be a different experience
I think cinnamon is not that good tbh!
@@ollie-f7y "Not that good" is too kind
@@ollie-f7y Cinnamon is good enough for the average user
@@LordSasN1 it's kinda ugly tho
I wouldn't recommend gnome tbh since it's pretty limited. KDE Plasma 6 with a rolling release distro would be the killer for people wanting more advanced features.
But yeah, cinnamon is good and stable enough for new users trying out Linux for the first time.
Gimp feels really outdated,i tend to use Krita.
Yeah, Krita is the goat.
I'm still gimpin away, but I'm hoping gimp 3.0 will give a nice refresh (they are in the final steps if releasing it afaik)
Comparing GIMP and Krita is like comparing apples with oranges. Even though there is some overlap in functionality, they are meant for completely different use cases. Krita is a digital painting program meant for digital artists to produce hand drawn illustrations, comics, animations, etc. whereas GIMP is a general purpose image editor.
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 well photoshop is a general purpose photo app but i can draw on it like krita but gimp is another story so for me the closest thing to photoshop is actually krita.
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Krita is just better than GIMP at all of GIMP's purported tasks anyway.
When you install Linux. If you want to install Linux alongside Windows on the SAME drive, you choose "Install linux alongside windows boot manager", but if you want to install Linux alongside Windows on the second/separate drive, you choose "erase disk and install linux" but be careful to not choose the Windows disk but the one you want to install Linux to.
Also, you can just double click the font file to install it.
Linux Mint should have a "weaker" equivalent to Mac's Super + Space and you use that just by typing on desktop and it will activate in lower right corner.
All keyboard shortcuts are the same as in Windows, especially the most known ones like shift + delete for perma delete and alt + f4 for closing the app.
Pressing PrtScr actually activates the screenshot app so you can quickly take a screenshot.
Why this brings tears to my eyes. I see a lot of linux users in the comments who were worried about his first time experience.
Overall, I can say he had a ton of better experience than I did first time lol. But now Linux feels like home.
Private: Kowalski, thumbnail analysis! Am I a so called 'Linux"?
Kowalski: No sir.
Private: Change it, Mister.
It's interesting to see the assumptions a new user makes. It was super obvious to me that you need to update the kernel for your graphics card, but not to you. Linux users often live in their own little world and it's difficult to infer what a user does and does not know.
God, it's good to see a Linux beginner who's actually willing to read the documentation
Ah yes, the thing that everyone loves to do before they use a new operating system: reading the documentation. Why easy when you can feel smug about it being hard?
@@jeromep5294 You said it yourself. "a new operating system". Those coming from other operating systems get used to that platform's way of doing things, and that's the reason they can use it without needing to learn how it works. When it's a new one you've never used, you gotta do your part in learning, or else it will be just frustration.
I do get what you're saying, though. Stable release distros really should have a system check that gives you a "Following hardware is currently not working properly due to lack of drivers. Please install a newer kernel using the Update Manager app, look for additional drivers using our Driver Manager app, install relevant drivers from our package manager if it's still missing, or consult the manufacturer to get an idea of your options. *bunch of buttons that open the apps*".
@@jeromep5294 I get your point, it should be easier and more intuitive. They wouldn't even have to implement auto-detection, a simple "We see your GPU drivers aren't working, would you like to try a newer kernel?" would suffice.
That being said, you also can't order a cupboard from Ikea, put it together without reading the manual and then wonder why it looks like a lovecraftian god.
@@jeromep5294 Most people don't go around installing new operating systems, they use the one that came with their computer. Likewise, using a computer that came with Linux preinstalled doesn't require reading any documentation to fix broken drivers.
the main issue is people will tell you to read the documentation and not link to it, then you actually find and read it and find out that your problem isn't actually mentioned anywhere in the documentation.
You are the reason why I went and installed Linux on my laptop. "it can't be that bad"
Your videos are very entertaining and informative. Thank you for the inspiration!