It is rare to see a man with true unshakeable integrity these days. Especially in America. THAT is how a person who knows himself and knows he is innocent behaves and feels...We aRe witnessing something REAL there. can, rather I could, feel his heat through the screen and I Do not mean purely sexual energy, although that is in there a bit, because life force simply feels good.
It was a kind and compassionate action on the part of the judge to realise that Patrick's distraught father needed an understanding hand on his shoulder. I've never seen that before in my years as a trial lawyer.
It is absolutely ridiculous to expect that a restraining order, or an order of protection, can stop someone from harming you. Unfortunately the kind of people that restraining orders are truly needed for are exactly the kind of people who don't give a single f'ck about restraining orders, and won't be stopped by one.
@@mattjack3983 I think if you’re a threat enough to have a restraining order issued against you, you should automatically have a GPS ankle bracelet placed! My Goddaughter and thousands of others have been murdered with that ‘piece of paper’ by their side. Such a waste!
@joanneclyde3170 Well see that's the thing tho..there are also alot of people who aren't dangerous at all who get restraining orders put on them. In many states they have laws that allow anyone who requests a restraining order to be granted one, regardless of the circumstances, or how much of a threat a person may be. Where I used to live, in Illinois, it was called an Order Of Protection. And anyone who requested one was granted an "Emergency Order Of Protection", with no questions asked. The Emergency OP was for either 15 days or 30 days, and there would be a hearing at the end of it to determine if a more permanent OP is needed. So yeah, just because a person has an Order Of Protection, or a Restraining Order, against them doesn't always mean the person is dangerous. There are plenty of people who abuse the system, and request restraining orders or OPs simply to make the other person's life difficult, or to cause them problems.
@@mattjack3983That's why they had all the messages to prove the ex was stalking them. That wasn't a 30-day type of restraining order, don't be disingenuous.
Yes, I think a lot more than I would have because this is all on her… She kept going back to the madman for the money money… Putting her son at risk and look what happened…
@@lynngallagher7456ok so I’m not tripping. She seems like she was trying to attach herself to any man with money she could find. 2 months after a break up she’s locked in with Patrick but still seeing the other guy while claiming it’s because he’s threatening ppl she loves. Letting him touch and kiss her. Come on now. It sounds messy and Patrick should have left her alone after he found out.
@@jessicavalentine4807 Yeah, I'm sure she would've married Greg had he asked. She dated him and his money for 8 years but his marriage prevented that. She's not a murderer, obviously, but she makes bad choices and Patrick got caught in the fray. Too bad he didn't walk away.
One of the many lessons form this is that when you've come out of an abusive, coercive relationship, what you must NOT do is show your new life and new love on social media. Have a bit of wisdom and caution. She clearly totally underestimated the precariousness of her situation and the situation of anyone she showed attention to. Even when she met up with this guy to try and get him to leave her alone, the fact that she ALLOWED him to caress her when she was engaged to someone else and in a way that she knew to be totally uncharacteristic, it's clear that she was used to having her boundaries ignored. She really should have got LOTS of counselling and help and allowed TIME to get proper perspective on things before rushing into another relationship. I'm not suggesting that any of this was her fault, it was obviously entirely the fault of the guy pulling the trigger, but we have to learn from these horror stories
Patrick's father broke my heart: "I was not there to protect my son.' That is a true father - provide and protect is what men are made for, and when that is cut off, it destroys a man.
I think she was playing both sides in the beginning. She got with Patrick a month after breaking up with her psycho on and off, ex... indecisive, she went back and messed with the crazy ex... that's what toxic couples do... they won't leave completely... and be done and keep running around in the same circles. It's sad that Patrick lost his life over something so senseless - he was so young, and my heart hurt to hear the way his dad cried in court. May Patrick rest in peace ❤
Yeah I think people should move on from their previous relationship first before getting into a new one. She brought her crazy ex into Patrick's life and knew that he could hurt him
She went to see him but I can tell she didn’t want to be there he was doing all the touching and the kissing and I can tell she didn’t even want to hold his hand he planned these videos but it didn’t work for this murderer
Yeah she had a restraining order and yet she had lunch with him and let him touched her she’s dating Patrick…. she was playing both ends… that’s why the restraining order did not work…..in my opinion she should have been charged…..
I know it’s the defence attorney’s job to poke holes in the prosecution’s case but the fact that he used the victim’s grieving father as a scapegoat with no evidence is so disgusting.
People always say that a protective order is just a piece of paper. That should change! They need to change that laws or create one that says if if you violate one, you can get up to 15 years in prison, or more. Too many ppl are dying.
@@taranote I couldn’t agree more with you. There needs to be reform on enforcing protective orders. Mine violated it 13 times, and nothing happened to him. It definitely is a piece of paper right now, and that needs to change. Yes, way too many people are dying because of this.
Exactly. If he was ordered to turn over all his guns they should have lawfully been able to enter his house and get them. That wouldn’t have been an illegal search (especially if they found some)…but what do I know? Probably nothing.
Yes. Expecting someone who already has no respect for other’s boundaries, rights, to honor a restraining order…is like handing a piece of paper to a crocodile and asking it nicely not to bite. It’s inane and treating these people as if they are wired “normally”. They aren’t. If they were, they wouldn’t need the restraining order!
This story got me to tears, poor Patrick. May he rest in peace. 🙏🏼 He was so young, handsome, & is described as a great person he was. When the father(Max) spoke, really got me to tears. So sad.
Loving the multi episode themed playlists put together like this. Keep em coming!! Y’all got like 3-4 decades worth of episodes to pull from. I’ve been going back deeper into the library and watching older episodes and… wow!! Somewhat of a time capsule.
I like to figure out how old they're by the fashion of clothing they're wearing, until I got to the Tiger King! Mullets and bouffant hair everywhere! Lol
This girl she love her self. She self centered. I thought she can't be right. I thought It was just me. This is why I came to comment section. To see its just me? I thought to myself she been with ex met him online. 8 years found out about his marriage. She gave him time okay. But, 1 month later she back to find another guy? I mean isn't that too soon? I would still crying. Although, was wrong. I wouldn't be in a right mind to even think. I would think the least 6 months to go back into dating. I mean if you meet thu friends, family its different its not planned happen okay. But, going online its deliberate. One plan to meet and knowing you got a crazy one. Why you need to post all over social media. Give time. She brought her past into Patrick life. His parents lost they son. She soon can find another and re marry. She won't alone for long.
@@roxiewatters1161 How is she an opportunist?! She’s not even moved on from Patrick 3 years after his death. He wasn’t a millionaire that took her on lavish trips and bought her $20,000 purses lol. You people are delusional to think this girl is an opportunist!!
Jessica was definitely chasing a sugar baby’s bag with that Bender Guy! She was playing both sides!!! Patrick’s father was no GAMES!! You can tell he was close with his son!!! He would be alive if Jessica hadn’t come into his life. She had too much going on. That man put too much into her for her to move on, and she wouldn’t let go cause of his money. 💰 my condolences to his parents. Truly sad
This lol she was dating him as 19!year old and he was in his 40’s and she pretended she didn’t know he wasn’t married he had to be going home every night she knew what time it was if it didn’t work with this young guy she would go back to him she’s a bank teller after all that’s a minimum wage job
@@helena3631Creepy, with the age difference but certainly not unheard of, an older man with money and a younger attractive woman. But how do you know she knew he was married? Did they say what he did for work? Remember, there’s some men who have two families, lying about being on the road for work half the time.
Patrick met the wrong woman period. Jessica was not truly single and KNEW her ex was dangerous... Patrick didn't stand a chance sadly smh. Ps. His mom should've kept the engagement ring...
Thank you!!! So sick of these type of women playing their sexuality to get what they want them act the innocent victim when something goes oh so wrong 🙄
@@JenniferLong-l5qexactly! It’s an era of women not wanting to be responsible for any aspect of their behavior and choices. We might not be directly responsible but our actions and decisions alter a situation, be it good or bad.
@@JenniferLong-l5q She was too old for him. 29 year old woman, if she is maturing at the natural rate, is not looking for 23 year old guys. Beginning of 20s to end of 20s is a HUGE time of growth for life experiences, almost as big as the difference of being 13 vs being 19; it's like she was stuck and never grew during that period.
She seemed drugged or medicated or at least very detached. Her flat tone was hard to listen to. I wonder if she feels any guilt from bringing that crazy guy into Patrick's life?
I didn’t know Patrick but he looks like an angel kind honest I feel sorry for his parents I wish he didn’t meet that girl with her past this is the problem jumping from one relationship to another and someone else pays the cost may Patrick’s soul rest in peace and my deep condolences to his parents 🌷🌷
This one will have a collection of engagement rings by the time she's 40. No way she didn't know the mansion millionaire was married. She played them both.
Yes! She said she was looking forward to the wedding. I bet she was! Not the marriage that comes after though, I bet! She just wanted to marry someone who was “Hollywood handsome”, someone who could give her a big diamond so she could flaunt it around and someone that she looked good with. Can you imagine the qualities she looks for in a guy? 🙄😂
I think Jessica was playing BOTH sides, and it backfired DRASTICALLY!!! I am not victim blaming in the least, but you don't get to claim you are "in fear for your life," and then let him rub your leg and kiss you head at a restaurant. My heart breaks for Patrick's mother. Women out there be VERY careful what kind of man you keep on a "back burner," there are whackadoodles everywhere.
I thought it was odd that she went back to the boyfriend and let him rub her leg and she also went to his house just because she had a disagreement with Patrick
They fought _after_ I believe because Bender sent that tape to Patrick. She said she went 2 c Bender bcuz he told her if she came that nothing will happen again.
Beware guys- no woman is truly single. Most are secretly juggling other guys lurking on her periphery, in her phone, male “friends,” etc. These are guys she hopes to trade up to, or to run to if the current relationship fails, or just as a source of attention. It was Patrick’s bad luck she was also teasing a psychopath ex. Jessica’s feelings of loss are surely real, but women rarely take accountability for their own roles in situations like this. This scenario is a worst-case example of what can happen from games that nearly all women play.
Explain to me how he was court ordered to turn over all of his weapons, yet, law enforcement said they did not have the authority to go into his home and get the weapons? Is that what they’re saying???
How can she be with this man for 8 years and no know he was married.....That's just lies. She was his side chick and she was just as toxic as Bender. Poor Patrick.
Lol. You'd be surprised. There's men with 2 whole separate families for decades. There's been stories of some not finding out about one another until the man dies.
Yep exactly what I was thinking. You can't go to someone's house for 8 years and never notice any evidence of a female living in that house. He just had money, he's definitely not good looking.
she doesnt strike me as the sharpest cheddar in the frdge. even datig a man with a gun collection and knowing of his jealous rage proves she liked the ex's money.
From my observation, she never loved Patrick, she was playing him to make the older man jealous, so that he can leave his wife and marries her, remember she said that, she gave him an ultimatum, she’s pure evil.
@@kimberlyhood4095That's insane that you're blaming the defense attorney for defending their client, the actual one who is being accused and likely guilty) and for upholding due process. Especially if it is a state appointed defense attorney who has no choice in who they represent. So if their client says their not guilty but you know their guilty and have to defend them for not being guilty.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO?
@@Naturefan354Nothing is wrong with _describing_ the depths defense attorneys will go to defend their clients regardless if their job requires them to do so.
@@Naturefan354 that attorney doesn't have to prove a thing, the DA is the one that has to bring proof to the table. Reasonable doubt isn't bringing a grieving father to the stand and blaming him. They were grasping at straws because they knew he was guilty and didn't have a leg to stand on. Look at the Casey Anthony trial, they even tried to blame the utility worker that found little Caylee's body. The majority of them are rattlesnakes, they literally blamed the victims family.
Why why why do you need to post your life on Facebook? You don’t need to announce your joy to the world. No one cares. They will just compare your joy to their pathetic life. People will either be jealous of you, hate you for showing off, or feel sorry for themselves. If you have joy, keep it to yourself and celebrate among yourselves.
That fiancée of Patrick is rubbing me the wrong way. All alarm bells go off here. First she is in a relationship that isn't healthy. Fighting, hate, etc. She accepts the marriage proposal. Then she breaks up with him and within a few months she is engaged with the second man. What the h*ll, lady?! Be on your own for a while, learn to love yourself, be yourself and only then begin a new relationship. Don't do man hopping, just because you don't want to be alone. If you are that desperate for a relationship, go see a psych. It means you have a severe problem. And you sure don't have a personality that can exist on its own. That is dangerous. Especially after a bad relationship it is a good idea to give yourself time to become who you were before that relationship. You need to, otherwise the next one is doomed too. Sometimes it takes years to recover. So be it. Then you are on your own for a couple of years. That's ok. When you are ready, you will meet the right person to share the rest of your life with. Don't rush, don't push, don't force it. It comes when it comes. Too late for babies? That is too bad. Bringing kids into a toxic relationship and a toxic life with unstable parent(s) isn't a good idea anyway. It doesn't only ruin your life, but also the life of innocent beings. That being said, I think little missy here is the bad apple. When I first saw here, I got the creeps. Here demeanor is arrogant and nothing about her is truthful or real. I don't think she is the one who actually killed him. But she is way to quick to put the blame on her ex. It is like she set him up to get him out of the way, so she can have Patrick. She didn't love him. I have a feeling he added something to her narcissistic personality. She describes Patrick as perfect and their relationship as perfect. Well, no one is perfect and no relationship is perfect. But she makes everything perfect to show people how great she is, how awesome she had it, etc. Hired someone to set her ex up? Probably. I just don't like her. Nothing about her I like. Creepy woman that everyone needs to stay away from. Brrr. I'm sorry Patrick fell for her and lost his life because of her and her past. I wish all the loved ones of Patrick the best.
I agree. I also feel the urge to blame her of what happened to patrick. And i think this woman still has feelings with her Ex greg thats why she dated him even gone to his house inspite that she is engaged to patrick.
But she continued to play w his head by going to eat dinner w him, holding his hand, letting him kiss her, etc. That ONLY made matters worse. Now an innocent man who gave his all for this girl, lost it all.
...from that last voicemail, I'm falling in love with Patrick too so sorry for your loss Jessica.. you seemed to be a lovely couple. When I find someone like Patrick I will be thankful.
First of all JESSICA should have NEVER put her and Patrick's photo on her FB profile for Greg to find out about the two of them! And second, I BETCHA Patrick's mom might wish her son had NEVER met Jessica because THAT'S really why he's dead! AND those restraining orders are MEANINGLESS cause they never WORK!
I was thinking the same thing. As close as they are they have HAD to had those feelings and thoughts against her. Especially her out with Greg months after they started dating. Him kissing her hand. If he is crazy already that just led him on. I definitely do not want to blame the victim but just an observation/opinion.
She herself said that she was consoled by the fact that her son died with love in his mind and heart. As the mom of the victim, such a statement means alot
This second case brought tears to my eyes… the poem I would’ve loved to hear in full… the 4 lines they read were so powerful that I can only imagine if the entire poem was read would inflict even more emotion. Thank you for sharing this part to something none of us would’ve known and sharing a poem that none of us knew we needed. ❤❤❤❤❤
I find Jessica very sketchy, she is meeting these guys on line ,she “dated” Gregory a married man for 8years who is almost twice her age ,when he wouldn’t leave his wife she finally leaves . Didn’t take her long to hook up with Patrick . Although professing her fear of him and getting a restraining order, she is still dating him , cheating on Patrick . Now she is playing the victim for the camera 🙄. Her game online is $$$$$
Fully agree.. she met this innocent man months ago now spewing her life,whole world is over, crushed! This woman will move on in weeks imo! Something about her is iffy
This is why it's important to know your significant other's past. "Is there anyone in your past that feels they are still in love with you"....."Have you had anyone in your past who had violent tendencies?"....."Have you had any encounters with an obsessive partner?"...........etc.
Yes. We live in strange times. Additionally, we need to do background checks on potential parters *and* get tested for sexually transmitted diseases before copulating. Be safe. Be aware. ❤️
Patrick knew about her ex. He made the choice to stay because he loved her. They placed a protective order against him. They did everything right. Victim blaming is gross.
I too, get so excited about the 48 hour marathon. I love all the narrators, and the way they pull me in, and keep me, on the edge of the seat. My heart goes out to the victims, and their families.
Calming him down by letting him kiss you licking you taking you home … while you were in relation with Patrick the man who was honest with you it was hard to watch him rubbing yr body and you are in relation with Patrick I wonder how Patrick felt when he saw that 💔💔💔
they broke up for a few days and he believed her and they got the restraining order. dude sent it to Patrick im sure it was edited by the narcissist who manipulated the "show" for the camera.
Ex is a rich psychopath and you meet him secretly and go inside his house to 'protect' your BF? He should have left her right there. She is a walking red flag.
@@farfallinaazzorra3493How the hell did Patrick pay for not one, but two giant rings? I'm thinking moissanite... And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but he could not possibly have paid for two diamonds that size.
And that's the way to go. There is something wrong with giving a pitty show to the world and it doesn't actually indicate anything about what they really feel, same as with showing no emotions.
@@CologneCarter your nuts, it CLEARLY SHOWS JESSICA EMOTIONLESS. she may be smiling in all the pictures but in real life perhaps she probably wasn’t actually in love with the guy anyway. I am sure she cared but perhaps lost interest.
This woman Jessica led this dude on. She is at fault too & does not deserve to wear or own that ring. A complete waste of this young man's life especially over this type of player.
That father stood in court with his whole chest and told the killer when he gets out he is going to peel him like an onion....looks around....stands up....STARTS SLOW CLAPPING....WE WILL DRIVE YOU BRO 🎉
And if he had registered firearms, how can't they account for the missing/used one? And she is one of those that will use this the rest of her life for sympathy.
Heartbreaking. It kind of showed that the image is imprinted in his mind, and plays often 😢 He REALLY wanted the public to know his beloved son was shot in the back by this sick coward
RESTRAINING ORDERS DO NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING! If you have to take one out on someone, you’re better off going somewhere where they can’t trace or find you because that piece of paper will only make someone crazy, more crazy. It’s like a game to them. Been there, done that and almost lost my life. Never again. There will never be protection w a piece of paper. You’d be better off carrying and protecting yourself that way at least you know you have a chance.
My family and I got a court order of protection against my stalker. He would violate it, get arrested, released a few hours later, and charges dropped. Rinse and repeat.
Sorry, I blame Jessica for playing BOTH Men. She got her Fancy Diamond ring, of course she's going to wear it. It's a little too coincidental he gets shot the exact day her Ring arrives. BOTH Men are out of the picture, and she gets what matters MOST - the RING!💍 How much was that ring worth, like $30,000?!
I am not impressed with her. Actually, disgusted. She can’t go any length of time without a man fawning over her. Knowing where she has been lying for EIGHT YEARS…within a month or so splashes her new love all over Facebook without an ounce of brains or foresight. My sadness is for his Mom and Dad but not her. She’ll find another “love.” A necessity for her. The way she allows this psycho to touch her while she meets him during her relationship with Patrick is disgusting.
Exactly. I've seen far too many cases where somebody who knows full well that their Ex is unstable and jealous (especially after 8 years together) and yet as soon as they're dating somebody new, they post photos all over FB---as if they're TRYING to make their Ex jealous.
This may sound harsh to some people, but it's good to say things the way they are. The fact that Jessica knows the kind of person her ex is, the threats he had made against Patrick, visiting him in his house, and allowing him to caress her in public, raise a question if they have actually broken up their relationship. Jessica's contributed to the death of Patrick.
She was in a relationship for 8 years (obviously due to his money because it sure wasn’t because of his looks) and one month after breaking up, she was looking for another man!? That was her first mistake.
@JulieRushworth Sharon, an older co-worker, dated a man a considerable number of years met her current husband dated 6 months and were married over 30 yrs when he died. Now, I do not advocate for anyone to believe that is always the case it is impossible to know someone in 6 month's high risk. It does happen can happen rare at best. I forgot about Sharon when I commented on the young woman involved in the 48 hrs story. However, to return and allow her ex to touch her to enter his house, I did not care for her, and I believe she enjoyed being on camera with 48 hrs more than the loss of that young man.
What I'm upset about is that she posted things on fb. Why? You leave a crazy guy you should prob move but if not at the least you don't post things on fb. Telling everyone you are in a new relationship right away. What was she thinking
JESSICA is a player, she was never 100% committed to Patrick smh that poor man gave his life away the moment he met that gold digger, she knew how her ex was and she never tried to protect Patrick at all.
Patrick’s mom says he would still be alive if the guns were turned over or taken away. I wish she could see that Bender would have just found another way by getting one illegally. You can’t stop that kind of evil when evil is committed to a plan. And his fiancé is a real piece of work. As someone else mentioned…she doesn’t deserve having that ring on her finger. RIP Patrick.
My family and I got a court order of protection against my stalker. He would violate it, get arrested, released a few hours later, and charges dropped. Rinse and repeat.
@@jimwerther" rinse & repeat " that part... my ex's P.O. told me, until he harmed me, nothing they could do... wasn't waiting arnd for tht, moved 5 states away, quietly, in the shadows
@@puckerupbuttercup1980 Yup! I know it well. My stalker harassed us - me, mostly, but also family - for years. It steadily got worse, but I was told that no Order of Protection could be issued until he committed a serious criminal act, such as sending me to a hospital. It was very predictable, and then it happened: He sent me to the hospital, and finally got arrested. Unfortunately, I did too: For defending myself, really. Charges against me were completely dropped, but spending 18 hours in custody was not fun. The stalker pled down to a lower charge, and we got a two year order of protection against him. He violated it whenever he felt like it, and then the Police would arrest him, and then he'd get released within three or four hours, and all charges eventually dropped. It was infuriating. So before the two year OP ran out, we moved, telling almost no one before we left, in a neighborhood where we knew hundreds of people. The whole thing is absurd. When will the law deal with stalking? It is a very serious issue, but few notice or care.
Jessica is an emotionless, manipulative, fake gold digger, playing her games. Patrick, however, is an idiot for not recognizing all the red flags popping around him! Instead of immediately withdrawing from a new gf who’s been in an toxic 8y relationship with psycho ex who’s not even an ex yet (like that other person she dated did), Patrick dove even deeper in to this, proposing to her like after a few months of dating (who does that??? How can you marry someone you don’t even know??) Maybe it was him being naive, or cocky and stubborn, or he just wanted to be that knight in shining armor and “rescue” a lady from a situation and be a hero, be a macho. Either way, he miscalculated his risks and that mistake cost him his life. The moral of the story: relationships are between 2 people. Do NOT ever get yourself into a relationship triangle (ex bf or ex gf, high maintenance parent, etc). It should be like this: “ I am dating YOU, not you and your crazy ex or mom”
In all seriousness, Patrick should have called Greg and told him that he was dumping Jessica immediately. Then he should have dumped her. She was all about the money. She dated Greg for that long, and she would have married him if he had done what she asked. Then she meets patrick, and continues to socialize with Greg because of his money, something that Patrick didn't have
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Bender looks old and creepy she was only around him for money and was leading him on regardless of him being married since she wasn’t “aware” of it
Also. How can you the main suspects in a disappearance. And refuse to do any interviews with the investigators and not allow anyone on the property?? So u can just get rid of someone and refuse to cooperate and you get away with it?? Im sorry. But Carole. She's shady. And you can see it in her eyes
I feel terrible for Patrick's parents, this was absolutely senseless and shouldn't have happened. I also feel bad for Jessica, but meeting up with that psycho was a huge mistake. She gave him hope that he still had a chance, and she looks very comfortable in his company and not just once. What was she thinking? The best thing to do is make a clean break and keep a low profile. Don't post about your new relationship on social media, especially when you're well aware of your ex's jealous temper. Rest in peace Partrick 🙏
@@gasmith7486Yeah and it's also dangerous and also Instagram, Facebook etc. constantly only focus on selfies of teen girls and women to get likes and followers and with Photoshopped filters and this just has increased how girls and women are valued mostly for their appearance and there are many online academic studies about this.
Yes and it's dangerous too and Instagram and Facebook etc. constantly only focus on selfies of teen girls and women to get likes and followers and with Photoshopped filters and this has just increased girls and women mostly only being valued for their appearance.
1st case - jessica was definitely played both sides and her ridiculous excuse that she met up with her ex because he was threatening her and she thought she could calm him down while shes caught on camera kissing and being touchy with him makes her look like a fool. Id respect it if she wouldve jus said in the beginning she was torn and still saw her ex but realized she truly wanted Patrick...but to say her ridiculous excuse while its caught on camera makes ke wonder if theres anything shes not being truthful about. I wana know how patrick could afford that huge rock on her finger. 2nd case- I always find it so strange when watching a case where the family talks about the victim giving them a sealed envelope and telling them "if anything happens to ke give this to the police"...but the family member says they just say ok and never open it until the unimaginable happens. Now i know im not the only one to think that if someone in my family came to me with a sealed envelope and said give this to police if something happens to me im immediately going to asks 100 questions and then when u leave im definitely opening the damn envelope. Or is it just me??
It was OBVIOUS that he was very pushy and manipulative ….he was controlling Jessica and I can see why she felt that she needed to calm him down as she was aftaid. He is a bastard….a psychopath 100%
Actually I believe her. When you're in an abusive relationship and someone makes a threat. That's a response where you kinda coax them to make them calm. So they calm down, things aren't always what they appear. Unless you actually go through Plus her age and when she got with him. She was very young and typically people who are abusive and manipulative. We'll have some sort of control of fear on that person's mind. She knew that he was dangerous. I don't think she was playing both sides. I think she was trying to get him as calm as possible.And even in a way kind of being agreeable in the way where he was doing what he was doing so he would go away at least that's what she was thinking possibly I think she was trying to get him as calm as possible. I'm just saying it's really not that strange.That kind of behavior in that type of situation
that ring is bad quality; it is dark and the clarity looks bad. my mom has been in the jewelry business for 30 years. it is also surrounded by small diamonds, which is less expensive. that is how he was able to afford that ring.
I have watched this twice now. I don't understand giving her the ring when she caused their son's death. And it hurts my heart to see her wearing it now. 😮 Is she claiming she will never find another guy? Will she still wear it then? She is trouble. As someone else here said, it probably won't be the last time we hear about her.
Because she didn’t cause his death, her ex caused the death. Unfortunately she got involved with an abuser and a manipulative liar, and a stalker. They both tried to deal with by this by going to a judge and getting a restraining order. Why people don’t support victims of stalking or respecting court orders is a continuing problem.
I believe her. I probably would have met with my abusive ex-husband if he said that he wanted to talk and promised to not harm anyone I know especially our children or current boyfriend. You best believe that I would attempt to record our conversation. I would definitely try to convince or plead with him that committing any crime would not be wise. The restraining order should have been enforced leading to the killer’s guns being taken away.
So many careless mis-steps that led to a good man's death, most by Jessica. She knew Bender's ego-driven personality. And we know police are human and can't be all knowing. You need to protect yourself and never stop being cautious. When a relationship is over you don't squeeze out any "leftover" feelings or meetings. If threats are made against you or yours meet with the police or get security. Over is over. It's like Patrick was swimming in shark filled waters alone without anyone taking the sharks seriously. Such a tragic and purely evil end to an innocent young man's life.
Greg you know what the simplest of words are the most meaningful words in life. I loved how short and sweet it is. This world people have lost their ways not all humans just some. I Wish people had more compassion from the heart like you. I needed to respond to what you had wrote. I did not want to scroll pass without telling you I acknowledged your wise wisdom words so powerful and knowledgeable . Love from the UK x
People need to stop posting every detail of their lives on social media!! 🤦🏻♀️if you know someone is stalking you etc. Keep it private until it’s safe.
Not everyone reacts with hysteria in the face of grief. Why are you judging someone who already lost so much? I don't think you would like to be in her shoes right now.
@@thrivingdevelopment2317 Thank-YOU it scares me at how many people are attacking her. She could be trying to stay as calm as possible every time she interviews so she won't break down in front of the cameras. If she was crying, the would say she is faking. Also, no one spoke to whether or not the engagement ring was made from the most expensive stones. I am glad she was standing with Patrick's mother, it could not be easy for either of them.
Forget the restraining order. This Jessica met with this soon to be killer twice. Both men lost their lives to an unfaithful woman that was playing them both. Ok, you have this restraining order. But what sense to having it if you meet with this man anyway. This woman is a black widow. She wanted to make this killer jealous because she discovered that he was married. Her revenge resulted in this innocent young man's life. Bless your soul, young man😢
Yeah it seems like she still wanted the killer because of his money. Anyone else with a conscience would have just broke up with a man that you find out is married! Not tell him he has to leave his WIFE!
So much criticism on the girl. The psychicopath surely manipulated her. That's what they do. She was young when they met and easily manipulated. Besides, she really wanted to marry. When she finally realises he isn't going to and he is wasting her youth. She leaves and finds another one to marry. That's all. . "Blender ended her future"
my spidey senses are telling me she stayed friendly with her ex (who she was with for his money and the goodies), while she was on dating sites, to make him jealous...just one month later shes publishing stuff on facebook. apparently she wasnt that scared of her ex, and staying quiet, she was declaring her new status to the world. Such a tragedy a decent young man died getting caught up in this mess.
The only people that I feel sorry for in the first story are Patrick and his family. Definitely not Jessica, who obviously used Pat to make his crazy ex that she had an evil soul tie to, jealous. She is pretty but emotionless. I am surprised that some actually feel sorry for her. She is a bad omen.
She spends eight years happily being a side chick to a rich guy, and you know he was throwing money and expensive gifts at her the whole time...do you really think she was just going to walk away from that? She finds out he's married, walks away, quickly latches on to Patrick, and then hangs Patrick out there in her rich sugar daddy's face to taunt him. Well, as they say, she found out.
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I know it's not really allowed, but I'm glad Mr. De La Cerda said what we would all want to say in a case like this. His tears made me so sad.
Absolutely agree
It's that raw emotional response that every parent would feel in this situation, but most are afraid to say it.
He said it for everyone.
😢
Its usually the women who are abused and terrorized. If Jessica had a father like De la Cerda, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
@@nadzachWhat kind of father did she have?
It is rare to see a man with true unshakeable integrity these days. Especially in America.
THAT is how a person who knows himself and knows he is innocent behaves and feels...We aRe witnessing something REAL there.
can, rather I could, feel his heat through the screen and I Do not mean purely sexual energy, although that is in there a bit, because life force simply feels good.
It was a kind and compassionate action on the part of the judge to realise that Patrick's distraught father needed an understanding hand on his shoulder. I've never seen that before in my years as a trial lawyer.
Some judges really show why they're judges. Compassionate with a firm hand for justice
Are you a psychotherapist or a trial lawyer? Or both?
@@JadedBelle I was initially a trial lawyer, and later became a psychotherapist.
@@susanandrew6453 That's so interesting. Are you happier with one over the other? Both are fascinating fields.
@@Metroid250😢😮 39:11 😅😊
Restraining orders are WORTHLESS!!!!! My heart breaks for this family. What a senseless tragedy! RIP Patrick!!! 🙏💔🙏
You or anyone should file regardless. In case something happens because the prosecutor or police department will look to see if one was filed.
It is absolutely ridiculous to expect that a restraining order, or an order of protection, can stop someone from harming you. Unfortunately the kind of people that restraining orders are truly needed for are exactly the kind of people who don't give a single f'ck about restraining orders, and won't be stopped by one.
@@mattjack3983
I think if you’re a threat enough to have a restraining order issued against you, you should automatically have a GPS ankle bracelet placed! My Goddaughter and thousands of others have been murdered with that ‘piece of paper’ by their side. Such a waste!
@joanneclyde3170 Well see that's the thing tho..there are also alot of people who aren't dangerous at all who get restraining orders put on them. In many states they have laws that allow anyone who requests a restraining order to be granted one, regardless of the circumstances, or how much of a threat a person may be. Where I used to live, in Illinois, it was called an Order Of Protection. And anyone who requested one was granted an "Emergency Order Of Protection", with no questions asked. The Emergency OP was for either 15 days or 30 days, and there would be a hearing at the end of it to determine if a more permanent OP is needed. So yeah, just because a person has an Order Of Protection, or a Restraining Order, against them doesn't always mean the person is dangerous. There are plenty of people who abuse the system, and request restraining orders or OPs simply to make the other person's life difficult, or to cause them problems.
@@mattjack3983That's why they had all the messages to prove the ex was stalking them. That wasn't a 30-day type of restraining order, don't be disingenuous.
I was yelling at the screen when they tried to pin the blame on Patrick's dad. Shameless!!!!
Yes! How could they?! 😖😡🤮 Liers!
Yelling!!💯💯💯🤭 Nee Tooo!! 😂
The audacity...absolutely enraging
incredible
What other things do you yell about, Rachelle?
Patrick's mother is very understanding to still care for Jessica, compassionate woman.
Yes, I think a lot more than I would have because this is all on her… She kept going back to the madman for the money money… Putting her son at risk and look what happened…
I'm thinking along those lines as well. I couldn't be this forgiving if that had been my son. Sad tragedy.@@lynngallagher7456
@@lynngallagher7456ok so I’m not tripping. She seems like she was trying to attach herself to any man with money she could find. 2 months after a break up she’s locked in with Patrick but still seeing the other guy while claiming it’s because he’s threatening ppl she loves. Letting him touch and kiss her. Come on now. It sounds messy and Patrick should have left her alone after he found out.
@@jessicavalentine4807 Yeah, I'm sure she would've married Greg had he asked. She dated him and his money for 8 years but his marriage prevented that. She's not a murderer, obviously, but she makes bad choices and Patrick got caught in the fray. Too bad he didn't walk away.
Yeah I am not sure that I have much respect for Jessica.
One of the many lessons form this is that when you've come out of an abusive, coercive relationship, what you must NOT do is show your new life and new love on social media. Have a bit of wisdom and caution. She clearly totally underestimated the precariousness of her situation and the situation of anyone she showed attention to. Even when she met up with this guy to try and get him to leave her alone, the fact that she ALLOWED him to caress her when she was engaged to someone else and in a way that she knew to be totally uncharacteristic, it's clear that she was used to having her boundaries ignored. She really should have got LOTS of counselling and help and allowed TIME to get proper perspective on things before rushing into another relationship. I'm not suggesting that any of this was her fault, it was obviously entirely the fault of the guy pulling the trigger, but we have to learn from these horror stories
She was cheating. She destroyed the lives of two men.
@@tube.brasil death penalty for adultery? that would certainly cut the population
@@tube.brasil Yes, she comes off as not authentic/ fake , IMHO
@@gigi9301She shouldn't have met the ex after they broke up... if he was supposedly threatening them, just go to the police. That was weird.
@@redacted2275 Very! Almost like she was stirring the pot, then sat back to watch the ensuing drama unfold.
Patrick's father broke my heart: "I was not there to protect my son.' That is a true father - provide and protect is what men are made for, and when that is cut off, it destroys a man.
He should of protected his son by keeping him away from Jessica
@@superme6493 Jessica caused his death.
and Patrick's mother shows why he was a simp
@@laquijadadeldesorden tell me women won’t sleep with you without telling me women won’t sleep with you 😂
@@slaphappybullet Nah,Thats not the case. Good try. Three divorces teach you some things
I think she was playing both sides in the beginning. She got with Patrick a month after breaking up with her psycho on and off, ex... indecisive, she went back and messed with the crazy ex... that's what toxic couples do... they won't leave completely... and be done and keep running around in the same circles. It's sad that Patrick lost his life over something so senseless - he was so young, and my heart hurt to hear the way his dad cried in court. May Patrick rest in peace ❤
Yes I agree
Yeah I think people should move on from their previous relationship first before getting into a new one. She brought her crazy ex into Patrick's life and knew that he could hurt him
She went to see him but I can tell she didn’t want to be there he was doing all the touching and the kissing and I can tell she didn’t even want to hold his hand he planned these videos but it didn’t work for this murderer
I came here to see who was brave enough to say what I was thinking!!!!
@@Estellbel1968well she didn’t pull away now did she?! She’s a grown woman and she needs to accept some responsibility that she DID lead him on.
Jessica monotonous voice & emotion, straight away gives me the chills as something cold about her
It sounds like she’s numb to me. The pain is so great she has went numb. Happened to me when my loved one died it was a bizarre experience
So many lip fillers she can’t move her face
Jessica Devani is a northern Indian....
She tried to keep up a double life and got caught
Yeah she had a restraining order and yet she had lunch with him and let him touched her she’s dating Patrick…. she was playing both ends… that’s why the restraining order did not work…..in my opinion she should have been charged…..
I know it’s the defence attorney’s job to poke holes in the prosecution’s case but the fact that he used the victim’s grieving father as a scapegoat with no evidence is so disgusting.
Exactly! That was a low blow
For real! Absolutely appalling.
Unbelievable dirty trick
And the actual killer is right there in the court letting it happen
This is why people hate lawyers. Zero morals. All ego and greed.
Yes, another 48 hours marathon! Authorities need to start taking protective orders seriously!
People always say that a protective order is just a piece of paper. That should change! They need to change that laws or create one that says if if you violate one, you can get up to 15 years in prison, or more. Too many ppl are dying.
@@taranote I couldn’t agree more with you. There needs to be reform on enforcing protective orders. Mine violated it 13 times, and nothing happened to him. It definitely is a piece of paper right now, and that needs to change. Yes, way too many people are dying because of this.
Exactly. If he was ordered to turn over all his guns they should have lawfully been able to enter his house and get them. That wouldn’t have been an illegal search (especially if they found some)…but what do I know? Probably nothing.
Yes. Expecting someone who already has no respect for other’s boundaries, rights, to honor a restraining order…is like handing a piece of paper to a crocodile and asking it nicely not to bite. It’s inane and treating these people as if they are wired “normally”. They aren’t. If they were, they wouldn’t need the restraining order!
What do you suggest they do?
Arrest everyone?
This story got me to tears, poor Patrick. May he rest in peace. 🙏🏼 He was so young, handsome, & is described as a great person he was. When the father(Max) spoke, really got me to tears. So sad.
Loving the multi episode themed playlists put together like this. Keep em coming!! Y’all got like 3-4 decades worth of episodes to pull from. I’ve been going back deeper into the library and watching older episodes and… wow!! Somewhat of a time capsule.
Right? I’m LOVING it too!!!
As long as the stories haven't already been posted here before.
36 years, to be exact...but we keep getting stuff from the last year. At least these go a bit further back than 8 months.
I like to figure out how old they're by the fashion of clothing they're wearing, until I got to the Tiger King! Mullets and bouffant hair everywhere! Lol
Same from india
Good thing I watched this Marathon because all three episodes were brand new to me.
Which is sadly a rarity on this channel.
I saw the first one.
@@b4lt1m0re_jayyou should watch them all, they’re all good
Same here lol
The episodes were the first time you'd seen them, but please tell me tou immediately started singing "Carol Baskin did it" 😅😅
This girl she love her self. She self centered. I thought she can't be right. I thought It was just me. This is why I came to comment section. To see its just me? I thought to myself she been with ex met him online. 8 years found out about his marriage. She gave him time okay. But, 1 month later she back to find another guy? I mean isn't that too soon? I would still crying. Although, was wrong. I wouldn't be in a right mind to even think. I would think the least 6 months to go back into dating. I mean if you meet thu friends, family its different its not planned happen okay. But, going online its deliberate. One plan to meet and knowing you got a crazy one. Why you need to post all over social media. Give time. She brought her past into Patrick life. His parents lost they son. She soon can find another and re marry. She won't alone for long.
She’s opportunist. You’re absolutely correct, she just loves herself
That's what i thought too! Why put it on social media publicly?! Of course to provoke and make the ex jealous. 🤦♀️
@@roxiewatters1161 How is she an opportunist?! She’s not even moved on from Patrick 3 years after his death. He wasn’t a millionaire that took her on lavish trips and bought her $20,000 purses lol. You people are delusional to think this girl is an opportunist!!
@@Girlmom4 you get taken advantage of, don’t you?
@@Girlmom4 Thank you. She is a VICTIM, not an opportunist. She lost her fiancé. These people saying otherwise are idiots.
My heart goes out to the young man’s parents 😢
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Jessica was definitely chasing a sugar baby’s bag with that Bender Guy! She was playing both sides!!! Patrick’s father was no GAMES!! You can tell he was close with his son!!! He would be alive if Jessica hadn’t come into his life. She had too much going on. That man put too much into her for her to move on, and she wouldn’t let go cause of his money. 💰 my condolences to his parents. Truly sad
This lol she was dating him as 19!year old and he was in his 40’s and she pretended she didn’t know he wasn’t married he had to be going home every night she knew what time it was if it didn’t work with this young guy she would go back to him she’s a bank teller after all that’s a minimum wage job
I knowwww. I hate th we’d lying… girl, wear your colors.
Also, damn she’s a robot..
@@helena3631Creepy, with the age difference but certainly not unheard of, an older man with money and a younger attractive woman. But how do you know she knew he was married? Did they say what he did for work? Remember, there’s some men who have two families, lying about being on the road for work half the time.
@@kellym47478 years…she knew
@Shawnne86 she really is. It's aggravating.
Patrick met the wrong woman period. Jessica was not truly single and KNEW her ex was dangerous...
Patrick didn't stand a chance sadly smh.
Ps. His mom should've kept the engagement ring...
Bingo. Exactly.
Thank you!!! So sick of these type of women playing their sexuality to get what they want them act the innocent victim when something goes oh so wrong 🙄
@@JenniferLong-l5qexactly! It’s an era of women not wanting to be responsible for any aspect of their behavior and choices. We might not be directly responsible but our actions and decisions alter a situation, be it good or bad.
@@JenniferLong-l5q She was too old for him. 29 year old woman, if she is maturing at the natural rate, is not looking for 23 year old guys. Beginning of 20s to end of 20s is a HUGE time of growth for life experiences, almost as big as the difference of being 13 vs being 19; it's like she was stuck and never grew during that period.
#1 It really bothers me that she says he took away "her" future... um, what about Patrick's?
I caught that and thought the same thing
Exactly = Narc
Right, it’s not her life that’s lost…she sounds so immature.
She says her whole world was taken away and yet not one tear, zero emotion the whole time!
She seemed drugged or medicated or at least very detached. Her flat tone was hard to listen to. I wonder if she feels any guilt from bringing that crazy guy into Patrick's life?
Some of the most heartfelt parents I've ever seen in a documentary..poor babies❤
I didn’t know Patrick but he looks like an angel kind honest I feel sorry for his parents I wish he didn’t meet that girl with her past this is the problem jumping from one relationship to another and someone else pays the cost may Patrick’s soul rest in peace and my deep condolences to his parents 🌷🌷
Patrick’s father… 🥺… the pain is palpable. You can tell they were close.
Don’t have to feel. The card said it all. He tells his dad that
This one will have a collection of engagement rings by the time she's 40. No way she didn't know the mansion millionaire was married. She played them both.
It happens.
@@scootert35Amber Frey didn’t know, but that wasn’t an 8 year affair.
Thank you!!!!
Yes! She said she was looking forward to the wedding. I bet she was! Not the marriage that comes after though, I bet! She just wanted to marry someone who was “Hollywood handsome”, someone who could give her a big diamond so she could flaunt it around and someone that she looked good with. Can you imagine the qualities she looks for in a guy? 🙄😂
I think Jessica was playing BOTH sides, and it backfired DRASTICALLY!!! I am not victim blaming in the least, but you don't get to claim you are "in fear for your life," and then let him rub your leg and kiss you head at a restaurant. My heart breaks for Patrick's mother. Women out there be VERY careful what kind of man you keep on a "back burner," there are whackadoodles everywhere.
I thought it was odd that she went back to the boyfriend and let him rub her leg and she also went to his house just because she had a disagreement with Patrick
She is very suspect...
They fought _after_ I believe because Bender sent that tape to Patrick. She said she went 2 c Bender bcuz he told her if she came that nothing will happen again.
Beware guys- no woman is truly single. Most are secretly juggling other guys lurking on her periphery, in her phone, male “friends,” etc. These are guys she hopes to trade up to, or to run to if the current relationship fails, or just as a source of attention. It was Patrick’s bad luck she was also teasing a psychopath ex. Jessica’s feelings of loss are surely real, but women rarely take accountability for their own roles in situations like this. This scenario is a worst-case example of what can happen from games that nearly all women play.
@@dkaob8351FACTS
Explain to me how he was court ordered to turn over all of his weapons, yet, law enforcement said they did not have the authority to go into his home and get the weapons? Is that what they’re saying???
Yea! That made no sense
Last I heard court orders are reinforced by law ei: cops going to get the guns !
Lazy work or he knew some of them cops
Lol
Because criminals have more rights than victims 🙄
Law and restraining orders are a joke
How can she be with this man for 8 years and no know he was married.....That's just lies. She was his side chick and she was just as toxic as Bender. Poor Patrick.
Lol. You'd be surprised. There's men with 2 whole separate families for decades. There's been stories of some not finding out about one another until the man dies.
Yep exactly what I was thinking. You can't go to someone's house for 8 years and never notice any evidence of a female living in that house. He just had money, he's definitely not good looking.
she doesnt strike me as the sharpest cheddar in the frdge. even datig a man with a gun collection and knowing of his jealous rage proves she liked the ex's money.
Why are some people @deeliefuldee delululu
I was looking for this comment
sooooo she was playing both and acting now like she is the victim who lost her future ???
Hands down my all time favorite true crime show. Thank you!
Yes! And I absolutely hate it when I tell people 48 hours and they say…oh you mean The First 48….ugh excuse me, get out!
Same! 48 Hours is always the best. My mom thinks the same, I just found out. I don’t get it but I’ll take it!
Jessica still wears Patrick’s ring because it’s gorgeous & she wants to keep it, not for any other reason!!
Bingo 👏🏿
From my observation, she never loved Patrick, she was playing him to make the older man jealous, so that he can leave his wife and marries her, remember she said that, she gave him an ultimatum, she’s pure evil.
It is a beautiful ring 💍
Exactly
@@labelledujour5855lol yall crazy she obviously had moved on him and his wife did get divorced
The dad was ready to punch the defending attorney for accusing him of the crime 😂
Too bad he wasn't allowed to do it. Those defense attorneys are sometimes just as lowdown as their clients.
@@kimberlyhood4095That's insane that you're blaming the defense attorney for defending their client, the actual one who is being accused and likely guilty) and for upholding due process. Especially if it is a state appointed defense attorney who has no choice in who they represent. So if their client says their not guilty but you know their guilty and have to defend them for not being guilty.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO?
@@Naturefan354Nothing is wrong with _describing_ the depths defense attorneys will go to defend their clients regardless if their job requires them to do so.
@@Naturefan354 that attorney doesn't have to prove a thing, the DA is the one that has to bring proof to the table. Reasonable doubt isn't bringing a grieving father to the stand and blaming him. They were grasping at straws because they knew he was guilty and didn't have a leg to stand on. Look at the Casey Anthony trial, they even tried to blame the utility worker that found little Caylee's body. The majority of them are rattlesnakes, they literally blamed the victims family.
Why why why do you need to post your life on Facebook? You don’t need to announce your joy to the world. No one cares. They will just compare your joy to their pathetic life. People will either be jealous of you, hate you for showing off, or feel sorry for themselves. If you have joy, keep it to yourself and celebrate among yourselves.
Rip Patrick . So sad
It's always the nice person who gets killed.
That fiancée of Patrick is rubbing me the wrong way. All alarm bells go off here.
First she is in a relationship that isn't healthy. Fighting, hate, etc. She accepts the marriage proposal.
Then she breaks up with him and within a few months she is engaged with the second man.
What the h*ll, lady?! Be on your own for a while, learn to love yourself, be yourself and only then begin a new relationship. Don't do man hopping, just because you don't want to be alone. If you are that desperate for a relationship, go see a psych. It means you have a severe problem. And you sure don't have a personality that can exist on its own. That is dangerous.
Especially after a bad relationship it is a good idea to give yourself time to become who you were before that relationship. You need to, otherwise the next one is doomed too. Sometimes it takes years to recover. So be it. Then you are on your own for a couple of years. That's ok. When you are ready, you will meet the right person to share the rest of your life with. Don't rush, don't push, don't force it. It comes when it comes.
Too late for babies? That is too bad. Bringing kids into a toxic relationship and a toxic life with unstable parent(s) isn't a good idea anyway. It doesn't only ruin your life, but also the life of innocent beings.
That being said, I think little missy here is the bad apple. When I first saw here, I got the creeps. Here demeanor is arrogant and nothing about her is truthful or real. I don't think she is the one who actually killed him. But she is way to quick to put the blame on her ex. It is like she set him up to get him out of the way, so she can have Patrick. She didn't love him. I have a feeling he added something to her narcissistic personality.
She describes Patrick as perfect and their relationship as perfect. Well, no one is perfect and no relationship is perfect. But she makes everything perfect to show people how great she is, how awesome she had it, etc.
Hired someone to set her ex up? Probably.
I just don't like her. Nothing about her I like. Creepy woman that everyone needs to stay away from. Brrr.
I'm sorry Patrick fell for her and lost his life because of her and her past. I wish all the loved ones of Patrick the best.
I agree. I also feel the urge to blame her of what happened to patrick. And i think this woman still has feelings with her Ex greg thats why she dated him even gone to his house inspite that she is engaged to patrick.
That Bender dude is so strange looking.
Right? Shocking he had not one but 2 women wanting to be with him.
@@nicole81678exactly. Mystery of the century here.
@@nicole81678newsflash ⚠️⚠️⚠️ money does buy happiness!!
Thought it was just me. Definitely strange looking. He looks off too.
Yes! He looks disturbed!
It’s outrageous that Greg has a whole wife, but terrorized his ex gf and her bf. SMH 🤦🏾♀️
Loved the wife and developed an obsession...for a young woman, easy to control. Many men have mich younger mistresses
But she continued to play w his head by going to eat dinner w him, holding his hand, letting him kiss her, etc. That ONLY made matters worse. Now an innocent man who gave his all for this girl, lost it all.
@@jogirl836agreed. She’s in love with being loved.
@jogirl836 she should be charged too. She is the cause of this. She played a dangerous game. Unless she did it out of fear.
I cant even find an ex to terrorize me!
I forgot Carol Baskin was on Dancing With the Stars lol. We were wild during the pandemic.
😂😂
"I'm going to finish you off. I'm going to peel you like an onion!" Amen, sir. I am so sorry for your's and your families loss. RIP Patrick ❤
...from that last voicemail, I'm falling in love with Patrick too so sorry for your loss Jessica.. you seemed to be a lovely couple. When I find someone like Patrick I will be thankful.
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First of all JESSICA should have NEVER put her and Patrick's photo on her FB profile for Greg to find out about the two of them!
And second, I BETCHA Patrick's mom might wish her son had NEVER met Jessica because THAT'S really why he's dead!
AND those restraining orders are MEANINGLESS cause they never WORK!
Yep, bullets easily rip through paper.
I was thinking the same thing. As close as they are they have HAD to had those feelings and thoughts against her. Especially her out with Greg months after they started dating. Him kissing her hand. If he is crazy already that just led him on. I definitely do not want to blame the victim but just an observation/opinion.
@@rௐணTrue but you CAN use WISDOM. Unfortunately more people don’t have any these days.
She herself said that she was consoled by the fact that her son died with love in his mind and heart. As the mom of the victim, such a statement means alot
Yeah Linda Jackson,we really need much better protection laws.
This second case brought tears to my eyes… the poem I would’ve loved to hear in full… the 4 lines they read were so powerful that I can only imagine if the entire poem was read would inflict even more emotion. Thank you for sharing this part to something none of us would’ve known and sharing a poem that none of us knew we needed. ❤❤❤❤❤
I find Jessica very sketchy, she is meeting these guys on line ,she “dated” Gregory a married man for 8years who is almost twice her age ,when he wouldn’t leave his wife she finally leaves . Didn’t take her long to hook up with Patrick . Although professing her fear of him and getting a restraining order, she is still dating him , cheating on Patrick . Now she is playing the victim for the camera 🙄. Her game online is $$$$$
I agree..
I felt that about her minute I heard her speak…
She does give off "gold digger" vibes - very shallow, materialistic (it seems).
Fully agree.. she met this innocent man months ago now spewing her life,whole world is over, crushed! This woman will move on in weeks imo! Something about her is iffy
@@JackieOlantern hahahahahahha crazy how they all sound the same
This is why it's important to know your significant other's past. "Is there anyone in your past that feels they are still in love with you"....."Have you had anyone in your past who had violent tendencies?"....."Have you had any encounters with an obsessive partner?"...........etc.
It's never been anyone fault to get stalked by psychopath ex. In this case, Jessica also a victim too.
Yes. We live in strange times. Additionally, we need to do background checks on potential parters *and* get tested for sexually transmitted diseases before copulating. Be safe. Be aware. ❤️
Jesus it's not her fault. Absolutely fed up with these types of comments. His crime not hers.
i don't think anyone is blaming the victim. It's important info to know about someone so you can both be safe.
Patrick knew about her ex. He made the choice to stay because he loved her.
They placed a protective order against him. They did everything right.
Victim blaming is gross.
She was playing both that's why
I too, get so excited about the 48 hour marathon. I love all the narrators, and the way they pull me in, and keep me, on the edge of the seat. My heart goes out to the victims, and their families.
Calming him down by letting him kiss you licking you taking you home … while you were in relation with Patrick the man who was honest with you it was hard to watch him rubbing yr body and you are in relation with Patrick I wonder how Patrick felt when he saw that 💔💔💔
Heartbroken
they broke up for a few days and he believed her and they got the restraining order. dude sent it to Patrick im sure it was edited by the narcissist who manipulated the "show" for the camera.
And she says her love was taken away from her SMH
😊😊З
@@midnightmoon3550
Ex is a rich psychopath and you meet him secretly and go inside his house to 'protect' your BF? He should have left her right there.
She is a walking red flag.
These unnecessary annoying adds have prevented me from posting sometimes right in the middle of writing my posts!
Thank you. Someone that can see through BS. She wanted a backup incase this new fling didn't work out.
Definitely 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 and she got him killed. Just sad
That's exactly what I thought
Yes!
I like Gladys...for an older lady she has a quick wit and a sharp mind. I wish she had said what she *really* thought about Carol though 😂
Jessica has absolutely no emotion even during this interview
But oh does she love that ring
@@farfallinaazzorra3493How the hell did Patrick pay for not one, but two giant rings? I'm thinking moissanite... And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but he could not possibly have paid for two diamonds that size.
And that's the way to go. There is something wrong with giving a pitty show to the world and it doesn't actually indicate anything about what they really feel, same as with showing no emotions.
@@CologneCarter your nuts, it CLEARLY SHOWS JESSICA EMOTIONLESS. she may be smiling in all the pictures but in real life perhaps she probably wasn’t actually in love with the guy anyway. I am sure she cared but perhaps lost interest.
Hearing his dad look in the killers eyes and say he’d finish him off if he ever got out and “peel him like an onion” gave me a chill!
Disagree I'd do and say the same
How can you hear his dad look in the killer’s eyes? Just wondering… 🤗☺️
@@lottatroublemaker6130😂
So what the killer did to that man's son doesn't give you chill but what the man said gives you chills? As backwards I tell you.
I would do the same thing as well if I were his dad😢😢😢😢
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This woman Jessica led this dude on. She is at fault too & does not deserve to wear or own that ring. A complete waste of this young man's life especially over this type of player.
The way she described the proposal was really weird. "He just asked me to marry him". Just??
Completely agree with you both
What are your reasons for verbally attacking Jessica? Needless to say, I disagree with your opinion.
@@Karen-v1r9u it's reality, not an opinion. There's dozens stating the very same. Are they all insane?
@@Karen-v1r9u the usual......shes not white
A rock has more emotions than that first girl.
...... this,,, when you truly care for someone.. even if they passed naturally, emotions would fly😢
Standing in the yard having just found her dead fiancé and she's directing police like it's just a regular occasion. That was wild
@@rachelramos9810 ...... thiiiiiiis,,, absolutely blew me awaaaay😳 I thought she was a detective
Glad I’m not alone in finding Jessica unnerving. The whole story is off.
How can you not feel like a pos after hearing the dad cry that hurt me
Punctuation is important.
No act of kindness is too small.
But, being the grammar police is not 😂🤣 @@BJM1134
Restraining orders are such a joke; worthless!!!!!
Bender was told to turn in his guns, end that was not enforced.🤬 So the law ment nothing.
Don't expect a restraining order to be obeyed.
@@markprange2430Absolutely right mark well said
Should have put up a sign at his front door that said ""This Is A Gun-Free Zone. NO FIREARMS ALLOWED!""
@@SteveWillNotDoIt1984
😂😂
2nd amendment rights for criminals is more important than life in "pro life" red states
And im a sensible gun owner
That father stood in court with his whole chest and told the killer when he gets out he is going to peel him like an onion....looks around....stands up....STARTS SLOW CLAPPING....WE WILL DRIVE YOU BRO 🎉
She was playing both men . The main question is how did Bender know the victim would be at the home that particular time.
Because he was stalking them!
He called pretending to be a delivery man
@@mainelady2020He called THE DAD! How did he get the Dad’s number?
@@gasmith7486 hmmm good question
And if he had registered firearms, how can't they account for the missing/used one? And she is one of those that will use this the rest of her life for sympathy.
Something tells me this isn’t the last we’ll hear of Jessica…
The feeling is mutual
😂
Yeah, maybe she’ll be in another 48 hours episode soon.
She'll meet the new "love of her life" soon
😂😂
I wish I could just give Patrick’s parents a hug. But, I do wish they could see Jessica for what she is.
When the dad laid down to show us where his badly was, i got CHILLS&MY HEART DROPPED!!!!
Complete shock.... for a parent to give such a visual...I was floored.
Heartbreaking. It kind of showed that the image is imprinted in his mind, and plays often 😢
He REALLY wanted the public to know his beloved son was shot in the back by this sick coward
Oh my gosh yes. So heartbreaking.
Annoying when people say “I got chills”🙄
RESTRAINING ORDERS DO NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING! If you have to take one out on someone, you’re better off going somewhere where they can’t trace or find you because that piece of paper will only make someone crazy, more crazy. It’s like a game to them. Been there, done that and almost lost my life. Never again. There will never be protection w a piece of paper. You’d be better off carrying and protecting yourself that way at least you know you have a chance.
True that!! 🎉
💯‼️💯‼️
My family and I got a court order of protection against my stalker. He would violate it, get arrested, released a few hours later, and charges dropped. Rinse and repeat.
Sorry, I blame Jessica for playing BOTH Men. She got her Fancy Diamond ring, of course she's going to wear it. It's a little too coincidental he gets shot the exact day her Ring arrives. BOTH Men are out of the picture, and she gets what matters MOST - the RING!💍 How much was that ring worth, like $30,000?!
I’m sorry but that Jessica girl is not innocent in this..
Yeah I wouldn't be too thrilled if my gf was having lunch with her ex bf either
No , she is NOT.
Definitely!
When she said "the whole package" you kind of get an idea of what Jessica is.
Don't forget they look at her phone and messages so if they were proof she was sleeping eith her ex she would be responsible also
I am not impressed with her. Actually, disgusted. She can’t go any length of time without a man fawning over her. Knowing where she has been lying for EIGHT YEARS…within a month or so splashes her new love all over Facebook without an ounce of brains or foresight. My sadness is for his Mom and Dad but not her. She’ll find another “love.” A necessity for her. The way she allows this psycho to touch her while she meets him during her relationship with Patrick is disgusting.
Exactly. I've seen far too many cases where somebody who knows full well that their Ex is unstable and jealous (especially after 8 years together) and yet as soon as they're dating somebody new, they post photos all over FB---as if they're TRYING to make their Ex jealous.
She's lying, and she knew exactly what was gonna happen. She played a part in this poor guy's life, ending 😢 so sad for him and his parents
@@ericblair7279 seems like something she should have mentioned and reported early on...
She's trouble!! I hope the next man realizes this.
She seems so static, like there is zero emotion there, anywhere, very unsettling.
This may sound harsh to some people, but it's good to say things the way they are. The fact that Jessica knows the kind of person her ex is, the threats he had made against Patrick, visiting him in his house, and allowing him to caress her in public, raise a question if they have actually broken up their relationship. Jessica's contributed to the death of Patrick.
She was in a relationship for 8 years (obviously due to his money because it sure wasn’t because of his looks) and one month after breaking up, she was looking for another man!? That was her first mistake.
Her "mistakes" are irrelevant. One man, who apparently was troubled, killed another fellow. terrible waste.
I agree. As soon as I heard that, I was shocked.
Jessica is very attractive, but something is off about her.
I got weird vibes as soon as she spoke without any emotion and showed off her ring, like a child holding up a shiny new toy.
You know that ring was fake
There's more to the story...
Yeah, the killer was her sugar daddy and she was playing Patrick obviously.
How can you see what she looks like under all that make up.
Morale of the story…avoid Jessica at all cost!!!
Jajajajaja
If you're in a relationship for 8 years and immediately jump to online dating then immediately engaged, huge, huge red flag.
I agree.
Absolutely.
When I was 21, I ended a 4 year relationship, met someone got engaged and married within about 4 months
@JulieRushworth Sharon, an older co-worker, dated a man a considerable number of years met her current husband dated 6 months and were married over 30 yrs when he died.
Now, I do not advocate for anyone to believe that is always the case it is impossible to know someone in 6 month's high risk. It does happen can happen rare at best.
I forgot about Sharon when I commented on the young woman involved in the 48 hrs story. However, to return and allow her ex to touch her to enter his house, I did not care for her, and I believe she enjoyed being on camera with 48 hrs more than the loss of that young man.
YES!
If she hadn't met Patrick, he would still be alive 🤦🏼♀️🫠
It would've been someone else just not Patrick yk? That bender dude is that crazy
If she didn't meet this ex-guy, killer.
What I'm upset about is that she posted things on fb. Why? You leave a crazy guy you should prob move but if not at the least you don't post things on fb. Telling everyone you are in a new relationship right away. What was she thinking
@@madeinussr7551I think she truly craved the attention from the psychopath.... And men in general.....😐
@@astrialindah2773 i so agree
So sad. Patricia mother is too kind to her
JESSICA is a player, she was never 100% committed to Patrick smh that poor man gave his life away the moment he met that gold digger, she knew how her ex was and she never tried to protect Patrick at all.
Gold digger? He hardly appeared to be wealthy. Do we even know what her job is?
Patrick’s mom says he would still be alive if the guns were turned over or taken away. I wish she could see that Bender would have just found another way by getting one illegally. You can’t stop that kind of evil when evil is committed to a plan.
And his fiancé is a real piece of work. As someone else mentioned…she doesn’t deserve having that ring on her finger.
RIP Patrick.
Restraining Orders won't stop a sick/deranged person.
That paper ain’t bulletproof
My family and I got a court order of protection against my stalker. He would violate it, get arrested, released a few hours later, and charges dropped. Rinse and repeat.
@@jimwerther" rinse & repeat " that part... my ex's P.O. told me, until he harmed me, nothing they could do... wasn't waiting arnd for tht, moved 5 states away, quietly, in the shadows
@@puckerupbuttercup1980
Yup! I know it well. My stalker harassed us - me, mostly, but also family - for years. It steadily got worse, but I was told that no Order of Protection could be issued until he committed a serious criminal act, such as sending me to a hospital. It was very predictable, and then it happened: He sent me to the hospital, and finally got arrested. Unfortunately, I did too: For defending myself, really. Charges against me were completely dropped, but spending 18 hours in custody was not fun. The stalker pled down to a lower charge, and we got a two year order of protection against him. He violated it whenever he felt like it, and then the Police would arrest him, and then he'd get released within three or four hours, and all charges eventually dropped. It was infuriating. So before the two year OP ran out, we moved, telling almost no one before we left, in a neighborhood where we knew hundreds of people. The whole thing is absurd. When will the law deal with stalking? It is a very serious issue, but few notice or care.
@@puckerupbuttercup1980
YT deleted my response to your comment. Of course.
Jessica is an emotionless, manipulative, fake gold digger, playing her games.
Patrick, however, is an idiot for not recognizing all the red flags popping around him!
Instead of immediately withdrawing from a new gf who’s been in an toxic 8y relationship with psycho ex who’s not even an ex yet (like that other person she dated did), Patrick dove even deeper in to this, proposing to her like after a few months of dating (who does that??? How can you marry someone you don’t even know??)
Maybe it was him being naive, or cocky and stubborn, or he just wanted to be that knight in shining armor and “rescue” a lady from a situation and be a hero, be a macho.
Either way, he miscalculated his risks and that mistake cost him his life.
The moral of the story: relationships are between 2 people. Do NOT ever get yourself into a relationship triangle (ex bf or ex gf, high maintenance parent, etc).
It should be like this: “ I am dating YOU, not you and your crazy ex or mom”
Women nowadays are never really single or in a relationship
In all seriousness, Patrick should have called Greg and told him that he was dumping Jessica immediately. Then he should have dumped her. She was all about the money. She dated Greg for that long, and she would have married him if he had done what she asked. Then she meets patrick, and continues to socialize with Greg because of his money, something that Patrick didn't have
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Bender looks old and creepy she was only around him for money and was leading him on regardless of him being married since she wasn’t “aware” of it
She missed her chance playing the game she has a ring and no man
Awwwe that voicemail was so sweet ❤❤❤ how could anyone take another person's life away wtf is wrong with some people in this world
Also. How can you the main suspects in a disappearance. And refuse to do any interviews with the investigators and not allow anyone on the property??
So u can just get rid of someone and refuse to cooperate and you get away with it??
Im sorry. But Carole. She's shady. And you can see it in her eyes
I feel terrible for Patrick's parents, this was absolutely senseless and shouldn't have happened. I also feel bad for Jessica, but meeting up with that psycho was a huge mistake. She gave him hope that he still had a chance, and she looks very comfortable in his company and not just once. What was she thinking? The best thing to do is make a clean break and keep a low profile. Don't post about your new relationship on social media, especially when you're well aware of your ex's jealous temper. Rest in peace Partrick 🙏
Nowadays, people love cameras, pictures, and social media more than any other person.
True. I stay off social media because of this very reason. I don’t need people to know my business!!
@@gasmith7486Yeah and it's also dangerous and also Instagram, Facebook etc. constantly only focus on selfies of teen girls and women to get likes and followers and with Photoshopped filters and this just has increased how girls and women are valued mostly for their appearance and there are many online academic studies about this.
Yes and it's dangerous too and Instagram and Facebook etc. constantly only focus on selfies of teen girls and women to get likes and followers and with Photoshopped filters and this has just increased girls and women mostly only being valued for their appearance.
Not me. I despise social media and almost never take pictures.
It’s a sad world
1st case - jessica was definitely played both sides and her ridiculous excuse that she met up with her ex because he was threatening her and she thought she could calm him down while shes caught on camera kissing and being touchy with him makes her look like a fool. Id respect it if she wouldve jus said in the beginning she was torn and still saw her ex but realized she truly wanted Patrick...but to say her ridiculous excuse while its caught on camera makes ke wonder if theres anything shes not being truthful about. I wana know how patrick could afford that huge rock on her finger.
2nd case- I always find it so strange when watching a case where the family talks about the victim giving them a sealed envelope and telling them "if anything happens to ke give this to the police"...but the family member says they just say ok and never open it until the unimaginable happens. Now i know im not the only one to think that if someone in my family came to me with a sealed envelope and said give this to police if something happens to me im immediately going to asks 100 questions and then when u leave im definitely opening the damn envelope. Or is it just me??
Yeah I feel the same about the girl Jessica. She definitely was playing games with both of them.
It was OBVIOUS that he was very pushy and manipulative ….he was controlling Jessica and I can see why she felt that she needed to calm him down as she was aftaid. He is a bastard….a psychopath 100%
Actually I believe her. When you're in an abusive relationship and someone makes a threat. That's a response where you kinda coax them to make them calm. So they calm down, things aren't always what they appear. Unless you actually go through Plus her age and when she got with him. She was very young and typically people who are abusive and manipulative. We'll have some sort of control of fear on that person's mind. She knew that he was dangerous. I don't think she was playing both sides. I think she was trying to get him as calm as possible.And even in a way kind of being agreeable in the way where he was doing what he was doing so he would go away at least that's what she was thinking possibly I think she was trying to get him as calm as possible. I'm just saying it's really not that strange.That kind of behavior in that type of situation
Promiscuous
that ring is bad quality; it is dark and the clarity looks bad. my mom has been in the jewelry business for 30 years. it is also surrounded by small diamonds, which is less expensive. that is how he was able to afford that ring.
I have watched this twice now. I don't understand giving her the ring when she caused their son's death. And it hurts my heart to see her wearing it now. 😮 Is she claiming she will never find another guy? Will she still wear it then? She is trouble. As someone else here said, it probably won't be the last time we hear about her.
Because she didn’t cause his death, her ex caused the death. Unfortunately she got involved with an abuser and a manipulative liar, and a stalker. They both tried to deal with by this by going to a judge and getting a restraining order. Why people don’t support victims of stalking or respecting court orders is a continuing problem.
Dinner with your ex… while in a new relationship.. no excuses
Facts. Shady as can be
I believe her. I probably would have met with my abusive ex-husband if he said that he wanted to talk and promised to not harm anyone I know especially our children or current boyfriend. You best believe that I would attempt to record our conversation. I would definitely try to convince or plead with him that committing any crime would not be wise. The restraining order should have been enforced leading to the killer’s guns being taken away.
But she was holding his hand. Looked Ike a date
Think she was using Bender for $
So many careless mis-steps that led to a good man's death, most by Jessica. She knew Bender's ego-driven personality. And we know police are human and can't be all knowing. You need to protect yourself and never stop being cautious. When a relationship is over you don't squeeze out any "leftover" feelings or meetings. If threats are made against you or yours meet with the police or get security. Over is over.
It's like Patrick was swimming in shark filled waters alone without anyone taking the sharks seriously. Such a tragic and purely evil end to an innocent young man's life.
Be strong enough to be honest and kind
Greg you know what the simplest of words are the most meaningful words in life. I loved how short and sweet it is. This world people have lost their ways not all humans just some. I Wish people had more compassion from the heart like you. I needed to respond to what you had wrote. I did not want to scroll pass without telling you I acknowledged your wise wisdom words so powerful and knowledgeable . Love from the UK x
Yes yes yes!! That is pretty key. I also say- believe people when they say stuff is happening. Give people shelter. Keep each other fed....
@@SH-hu4clI second your words! Well done ALL!! ❤😂🎉
People need to stop posting every detail of their lives on social media!! 🤦🏻♀️if you know someone is stalking you etc. Keep it private until it’s safe.
Jessica sounds like a creation of AI with that flat voice . . .
Not everyone reacts with hysteria in the face of grief. Why are you judging someone who already lost so much? I don't think you would like to be in her shoes right now.
@@thrivingdevelopment2317 Thank-YOU it scares me at how many people are attacking her. She could be trying to stay as calm as possible every time she interviews so she won't break down in front of the cameras. If she was crying, the would say she is faking. Also, no one spoke to whether or not the engagement ring was made from the most expensive stones. I am glad she was standing with Patrick's mother, it could not be easy for either of them.
Depression or being on the spectrum
@@bonnylouwho76
Agree 100%. The venom thrown at Jessica here is crazy.
I think she’s trying to sound like the Kardashian sisters.
Love that Father! "I will peel you like an onion"! 😮😢
I’m probably going to get a lot of negativity for stating this…
There’s something ‘off’ with Jessica…Idk what it is, I get a weird vibe from her
Nah, many of us agree. It almost seems like she didn’t care…
Oh nowwww she wants to stay single??? Convenient..
because shes not white I guess zzzz
But she kept the ring
Yea she caused his dea
@martinepeter s9891 Patrick's family gave her the ring. What should she have done with it?
Carol Baskin and Joe Exotic kept me sane during the pandemic 😂😂😂😂
Me too!
😂😂😂 wasn't expecting this story here
His Defence is pathetic
Patrick made a bad life partner choice
Lol yes 😂 and the Facebook memes about the show omg 😂
The way Patrick's dad cried my heart broke 💔😭
Finally new episodes on a Saturday! Im all 👀 and 👂
Same 👀👂
I don't believe her. Something in her actions. She was playing both men.i don't think she is innocent
Yep all you have to do is listen to every other word that comes out of her mouth: me, me, me, my, me!
Agreed! That ring? That’s not something Patrick could’ve afforded under normal relationship circumstances….gold digger vibes from her.
I agree
@@lucyandlily4197Completely agree.
That girl gave off soulless vibes !
Patrick's dad broke my heart when he enacted how his son layed💔💔 may he find peace and heal from this
Forget the restraining order. This Jessica met with this soon to be killer twice. Both men lost their lives to an unfaithful woman that was playing them both. Ok, you have this restraining order. But what sense to having it if you meet with this man anyway. This woman is a black widow. She wanted to make this killer jealous because she discovered that he was married. Her revenge resulted in this innocent young man's life. Bless your soul, young man😢
Absolutely agree, well said.
@@JCX-9Bender lost his own being that he was married and carrying on a long-term affair.
I agree I do not get good vibes from her at all…
Yeah it seems like she still wanted the killer because of his money. Anyone else with a conscience would have just broke up with a man that you find out is married! Not tell him he has to leave his WIFE!
So much criticism on the girl. The psychicopath surely manipulated her. That's what they do. She was young when they met and easily manipulated. Besides, she really wanted to marry. When she finally realises he isn't going to and he is wasting her youth. She leaves and finds another one to marry. That's all. . "Blender ended her future"
Don Louis ex wife is absolutely hilarious 😂 I love her sassiness!
Jessica is a creep.. She was definitely cheating on Patrick, probably used him to make Gregory jealous. She's a sociopath
my spidey senses are telling me she stayed friendly with her ex (who she was with for his money and the goodies), while she was on dating sites, to make him jealous...just one month later shes publishing stuff on facebook. apparently she wasnt that scared of her ex, and staying quiet, she was declaring her new status to the world. Such a tragedy a decent young man died getting caught up in this mess.
I feel so bad for Patrick’s parents, especially the father.
I don't care if Jessica was dating a hundred different people.
That doesn't give anyone the right to take Patrick's life.
The only people that I feel sorry for in the first story are Patrick and his family. Definitely not Jessica, who obviously used Pat to make his crazy ex that she had an evil soul tie to, jealous. She is pretty but emotionless. I am surprised that some actually feel sorry for her. She is a bad omen.
Leaving your wife to go see another woman and then on the way you meet the woman that eventually kills you sounds like karma
I think you might have the story mixed up?😂
Second story
@@gbang444yup, i got what you mean. Maybe it is.
Don Lewis story@@astrialindah2773
Karmic Justice it is. 🎉
I love how he cherished his son so beautiful
She spends eight years happily being a side chick to a rich guy, and you know he was throwing money and expensive gifts at her the whole time...do you really think she was just going to walk away from that? She finds out he's married, walks away, quickly latches on to Patrick, and then hangs Patrick out there in her rich sugar daddy's face to taunt him. Well, as they say, she found out.
I hope his mother reads that.
That’s exactly what she did.