2022 Honda Civic Hatchback Review: Crossover Executioner
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- The new 2022 11th Generation Civic Hatchback with the 6 speed manual transmission is an excellent daily driver. Driver engagement, comfort, fun, and practicality all excelling. This should vehicle is arguably best-in-segment and a vehicle that should be considered among small crossover buyers.
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All-new Civic Hatchback is aimed at young, active buyers with sleek fastback design and sporty driving character
Short-throw 6-speed manual transmission available with either the 2.0-liter normally aspirated, or 1.5-liter turbo engine
New sporty and simple interior design includes increased versatility and the largest back seat ever in a Civic Hatchback
Civic Hatchback is built in the U.S. for the first time and continues to offer exceptional value
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We bought the new Civic hatchback with 1.5t last week and we absolutely love the way this thing drives.
Great review Kirk! I'm glad to see that Honda has made improvements to the hatch without any major downgrades from the previous version. That trunk shade is super convenient. I use that weekly so I can fit taller groceries or access things at the back of the trunk more easily, sometimes I leave it open, other times I leave it closed. While other hatchbacks may have 20-25 cubic feet of hatch space, I think the Civic does the best job of giving customers access to all that space without forcing them to leave the privacy cover at home.
I get that 1.5L turbo is more fuel efficient but man, it would’ve been awesome had they still kept the 2.4L k series naturally aspirated engine. My last hope is the Integra will get it as I prefer the simplicity of a naturally aspirated engine.
Acura ILX has one with a 8 speed dct
@@jayfuentez8334 I have the ILX with the 2.4 and the 8 speed DCT. The DCT is really good and quick to shift in sport mode. The 2.4 is also a gem of an engine. I do wish the integra comes with a N/A engine and manual.
I agree. I say keep these gems around for the Acura brand at least. The 1.5T does not sound good and is not as much fun revving out. Honda already offers a manual that makes the car fun but slower. I say keep the 2.4 to keep the fun even at the expense of fuel efficiency. I hope Honda finds some fun way to combine the old 9000rpm vtec engines with EV motors. Ev torque with gas top end (really just for the sound)
Keep your hopes up.
Mazda3 comes without turbo
damn this thing is amazing!
the way it looks, it feels and it actually is quite fun to drive with that manual transmission. lovely!
can’t wait for the TYPE R
Nice content and thanks for posting them in 4k too.
Saw this today in grey colour. In real life it’s looks really beautiful.
I went from wanting Boost Blue Pearl to this Sonic Gray Pearl. It seems light Blue in the daylight and sunlight. I plan to buy one. My currant daily driver is a 1997 Honda Del Sol in Cypress Green but come on... it's 24 years old! lol The bells and whistles in the "22 are amazing.
Any make and model, nothing's like the enthusiasm/joy and control of driving a manual transmission. And it shows in the video. Yet another good one, Kirk. 👍
Thanks Christopher
Except the 1980's YUGO , I hated driving that car, especially in the winter. The stick was so tough to move.
Just drive this exact example.. IT'S GOOD!!
I say this all the time and nobody I know who drives an automatic understands. Even slow ass cars, in a manual, are fun.
Thanks for the MANUAL review!
The integrated washer nozzles on the wipers are absolutely terrible on our Clarity. It's one of the biggest complaints of the owners group. Looks like they improved it in the 11th Gen!
Kris has been pumping reviews like a mad man!!!! Woooo
Who??? 😂
Been looking forward to this vid Kirk!
Glad you were detailed enough about the driving experience although a little concerned about that rev hang though...
Still a long wait for someone in Belgium... Any idea if the si will come to europe?
This is the first Honda in a long, long time that I've actually been interested in buying. What a thoroughly-great effort by the company I held in such high regard from the 1970s through the '90s. 'Seems like HMC is back. 'Good for you to mention pausing for the revs to drop before upshifting at high rpm, while every other reviewer just slams the shifter immediately into the next higher gear, at high revs, with no concern for damaging the transmission's synchros. If you can't upshift gently/smoothly (and rev-match downshifts), you're probably better-off with the CVT.
Thanks Ken! I wish there was a drive.mode that altered the rev hang...but it's still fun to drive and satisfying doing it smoothly
@@KirkKreifels The rev hang is probably programmed into the engine deliberately as part of the emission controls. That was my experience with a manual transmission in a 1997 Chevy C1500.
How are you supposed to learn?
Get what you want, no matter how skilled Ken thinks you are. Ken isn't paying for your car!
Reading the specs on the SI, they fixed the Rev hang by replacing the flywheel with a lighter single mass, vs the dual mass used in that civic.
I learned to drive on a 1st gen honda civic. It's amazing how far these cars have come, in...uh...40+ years!
Except for the power... which is surprisingly lacking here. I get it's a low-end model, but it's very underpowered for some reason. Not sure why they wouldn't give it just a little more / lighter flywheel to reduce rev-hang. Mazda 3 feels far more satisfying.
@SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION What are you even talking about. Who said I want to 'disprove' anything. Weird comment.
@SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION And you haven't disproven that my criticism is incorrect.... lol.
My comment was just a counter point to what the OP said... not an argument. You seem to be very concerned haha. What I said is correct.. even if the OP's comment was correct also.. 🙄
Perfect job as always Kirk! Thank you very much for reviewing the manual! I'm toying with a other engine and I was curious to see if you happen to drive that one in the stick as well?
Thanks Lawrence!
Sadly I haven't driven the sport 2.0
This car reminds me of my 06 Acura RSX type S I owned. Looking forward to a more sportier version but it a very nice well rounded ride
Finally a good looking vehicle, nicer quality inside, older models were so cheap.
Hey Kirk! Nice review! In your opinion...what is better? The Civic Hatchback Sport Touring or the Integra A Spec?
Hello, are there any differences in Honda Sense safety features when comparing the manual vs CVT?
Forgot to ask which mode was the car in? Sport, eco?
Will you test drive the HB SPort with the NA 2.0l in manual?
Thanks for that thorough review. I'm aiming for the Sport hatchback with the 2.0 NA and manual transmission. Hope you get a chance to test one in future.
Thanks for watching! Hope to drive the 2.0 manual as well!
Kirk wonder how similar this puppy drives as compared to a manual sport touring 6sp gen x, like what I have.
Does it have the rev matching on this version ?
I'm waiting for mine to be built. Red Sport Touring Hatchback with CVT. Seems like a great all around car.
Waiting on my boost blue st to be built
You like this Luna rock color on all of your cars 😍 TNX for video
Which one is smoother, cvt or manual?
Props for the Tundra peep show
I realize this is off topic but I saw a rendering of the 2022 Accord and it looks like the infotainment screen does not have a volume knob. WTH?
2021 Mazda3 Hatchback Select or 2022 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport with the 158HP NA engine? 🤔
It looks like I can fit my bike in the back without having to remove the front wheels. My next car.
I was on the market for a new car. I was going to get the 2023 civic sedan. I needed to move my bike in my old car and couldn’t fit it in the trunk with the seats down unless I took off the wheel. Instantly I changed my kind and went hatchback due to that one moment
I just wish that Honda used that cool carbon fiber looking material around the shifter on all the gloss black parts of the interior. There's so much freaking gloss black. Around the vents, on the freaking steering wheel. Just waiting for all those fingerprints and dust. On another note, I like the Chinese market Honda Integra much more than the Civic we got and I wish our Civic looked like the Integra. I was also really looking forward to buying a Boost Blue Civic Hatchback Sport but then Honda gimped the sport trim by only giving it the 2.0L gutless NA engine when the last generation sport hatchback got the 1.5T...
My WRX has gloss black around the interior and it's impossible to keep clean. IT'S ALWAYS DIRTY!
Hmm. I had glass black trim and had no problems keeping it clean.
And yeah I wish the Sport had an option to get the 1.5T. Maybe they’ll add that as an option down the road.
"There's so much freaking gloss black" - Huh? There is very little gloss black trim in this car's interior.
@@kenhoward3512 Do you not see how much gloss black is all over the vent area and it's even all over the steering wheel and there's gloss black on the doors too.
@@kevinnorris6558 Same. My 2020 Camry has a huge block of gloss black around the vents and infotainment and it's impossible to keep clean. My brother's Corolla hatchback also has gloss black everywhere and impossible to clean. At this point, if there's an excessive amount of gloss black in the interior of a car, I'm unlikely to buy it.
Kirk, How did this compare with the Mazda 3 turbo hatch you drove before?
Both great! I wish the 3 had a manual on the turbo 😐
The six speed manual is the one I'd buy. Very disappointing that Honda dropped the manual in every Civic and Accord sedan. Wanted to order a Sport trim with the manual at my local dealer. He said no problem but they wanted $3K over MSRP for it. I was shocked, told him longtime loyal customers won't forget these tactics.
aren't you forgetting the Si and Type-R, you can still have the option to choose manual on the hatchback and the Si is on the Sedan
It would look better if they blackened the chrome. There's no chrome on the grille already, so the window trim seems pointless
That's why as soon as mine comes, I'm buying a couple cans of plastidip
The wheels aren’t all black like the sport so I believe they tried to pick up on that.
Why doesn’t anyone review the 2.0l manual hatch??
Hi kirk can you do a review on the Mazda 3 sedan astina auto regards Terry.
I've been liking the Civic Hatchback. Especially the Sport Touring with manual transmission. However, my local dealer claims I cannot get a Sport Touring with a manual transmission. When I pressed the fact that Honda has been advertising it ad-nausea, he insisted that "Honda is not going to build one of a kind..."
My one and only Honda has been a 2006 S2000. One of the things I found irritating was that Honda offered only 4 or 5 colors, and no options besides 2 or 3 dealer installed accessories. Looks like little has changed.
KK, Liked the review. No complaints. I would Honda to offer a dual fuel system (port and direct) for any of their engines, but they do not. Or...offer port injection for all of their engines with a turbo. That is why I feel the only option for me is the 'Sport' trim of the hatchback. 6-speed standard transmission and the engine has port injection. I am avoiding direct injection at all costs due to the carbon buildup on the intake valves.
Can you please review the SPORT trim with the naturally aspirated 2.0 with the manual transmission? Basically no one has reviewed that spec.
I really want to... Honda doesn't have them in the press fleet I don't think
Right? Not one real review of the 2.0 manual
I've driven hundreds of manual transmissions from nearly all of the different brands. By far, Honda makes the smoothest, most precise, enjoyable Manual Transmissions.
I need to drive more Honda manuals 🤞
What's the cruising rpm at 65 - 70 mph with the manual? Above 2k?
Like nearly all 4 cylinder Honda's, I would bet on 2800 to 3200 RPM at 70 MPH. I would prefer below 2500 RPM.
This would be a Honda I’d own
I wonder if the 2.0 will have less rev hang.
A2 .. Go Blue ! 💙 🏈 💛
Really nice review ! I’m liking this Honda Civic Sport Touring a lot . Nothing but positive things with every review I’ve seen .
However, I’m curious about the ‘ rev hang ‘ thing here . Is this due to the turbo charged engine ? Is this an issue with the 2.0 L naturally aspirated engine as well ? I don’t understand why , if the SI is tuned or whatever to have a better synchronized “ rev match “ , with the 200hp v-tec , why couldn’t Honda just do that with this 180hp v-tec as well ? I wish they’d offer that 200hp variant as an option with the Sport and Sport Touring. It doesn’t even make sense that they would even make the same 1.5L v-tec engines with two different horsepower ratings, and we’re only talking 20 hp differences and really no difference in fuel economy on top of that !
Does that car have a back seat ? I would have liked to see the leg room.
Strange question but do these new cars still use lead car batteries? Or have they changed to something safer.
Yes they still use lead acid batteries.
I bought a crossover (Hyundai Kona) because I want AWD, as I occasionally drive in snowy areas. Subcompact crossovers of the same price range are also shorter in general, so they are easier to park on city streets. My Kona comes with turbo and dual clutch transmission, so it’s considerably faster as well. The top trim is about the same price on both cars.
I have an older Civic, so I have nothing against it. It’s just that I’m moving to the urban northwest, so I need a shorter car with AWD.
Gr Corolla
Kirk, any news on when the Corolla is due for redesign, is it 2023?
Corolla just got refreshed for 2023.
Kirk: Does rev-match eliminate rev-hang?
Rev hang affects upshifts, rev matching system auto revs the engine on downshifts to make the shifts smoother.
Is hatchback only comes with manual transmission
Imagine this, but with the Crosstrek treatment...
I'll take my paycheck, Honda. ;)
I was waiting for a vtec crossover noise that never came. The new 1.5t is a decent motor and the extra torque is nice...but nothing beats old school vtec.
Luckily there's the 2.0 NA for you
@@KirkKreifels true, I'll stick with my 08 si until I see what engine and trans options are going to be available for the new integra. I'm honestly hoping they carry over the k24 from the ILX as the base engine if they're not developing something new. But, overall another great review! This doesn't tick all my boxes but I'm glad Honda still offers it with a 6spd option.
I thought I heard some crossover at the very end but I may have been imagining it. Regardless engine sounds bad.
V-tec yo!! 😢
there's a 6 speed sport being delivered near me in december
it's red and will have HPD package, i think it might be my favorite looking civic ever, but it will be a slow 2.0 i don't think i'll mind tbh
Check with Honda but I believe the 6-speeds will only be made in black, white, or gray.
@@robertevans3604 the dealer i’m talking to just sold a blue one, you can build a red one on the website too doesn’t even cost extra
@@DrRyan82994 6-speed manual in Only Platinum White Pearl (WX), Sonic Grey Pearl (GA), Chrystal Black Pearl (BK), Sooo... No Sport Touring Rallye Red or Boost Blue with a 6MT.... sorry.
@@robertevans3604 it’s a basic sport with no moonroof or turbo
i had to double check, yeah that’s just the sport touring. i’m cheap getting a regular sport lol
@@DrRyan82994 Even in Sport Trim ... no manual transmission (6-speed) in red or blue, just white,black or grey. Sorry
I have never driven any manual transmission that couldnt spin the 2nd gear shift. That rev hang looks horrendous too. Hopefully they fix that in the sportier models. No way I could drive that everyday.
Agree and agree. A lot more fun cars out there for $30k
They won't. The engine revs slow
Can't wait for type r and Integra
It's hard to pick between the civic SPORTBACK or mazda 3 hatchback
Civic is practical, roomy interior and trunk, I've wanted a sport back ever since the audi a5 sportback. Nice looking interior, nice feeling/big temp knobs, wireless Android auto/ car play, wireless charger, less gloss black, good cubby areas
Mazda 3 has a nicer front facia(imo), nicer headlights/ rearlights, I personally love the knob for the info., nice looking/ better quality interior(they didn't cheap out on the rear doors like Honda, metal speaker grills, nicer steering wheel imo), automatic transmission(unlike civics cvt), nicer/ classy looking gauges (civic maybe digital, but if I can't have a full navigation map why bother)
I agree with you 100%. I like the front end of the Mazda3 better than the new Civic. The interior of the Mazda3 is pretty small though. I think that I'll go with the Civic. IMO the Civic is a good looking hatch that has a lot more interior room.
mann i thought the sport came with a 1.5T not a slow 2.0. wish they could’ve kept the same engines as the last gen
I was hoping you had reviewed the regular Sport model with no turbo and a manual transmission. That's the version I'm interested in. It should be more reliable long term than a turbo. It might also not have that lag or shifting feel that you were talking about.
I sold my 2018 SI due to the Rev Hang with 2k miles. I never knew a manual wouldn't stall in 1st gear. :)
What’s rev hang ?
@@Mr.Helper. Rev hang is when the RPM engine speed doesn’t immediately drop once the clutch is actuated, and instead descends very slowly, as if there were some form of restriction. It doesn't feel like a real stick shift from the old days. no herky jerky. I swear you can drive on 1st gear and never stall. For me growing up on a stick, it felt stupid.
it's kind of what your gonna get in almost every stick shift car made in the last 15 years. i think a lot of people don't really notice anymore, or they tune it
@@DrRyan82994 I am sure you are right about that. I haven't driven a stick in over 15 years and was so excited then got the big disappointment. It's a emissions thing and I read the only way around it is a complete ECU flash. Good to know now, i won't even look at a manual now in newer cars.
Which would be better to get the Sport trim or the Ex-l trim?
I would get Sport for the 6 speed manual. Just my taste though.
@@KirkKreifels I was looking at the exl trim. I unfortunately dont know how to drive a manual.
What happened to the sporty aggressive look? And the spoiler above the back window like the 10th generation? This hatchback looks plain and none aggressive
I stopped by a dealership today in San Juan Capistrano. Ocean Honda. They were asking $40.045 for a Civic sport touring. This includes dealer options and a $4,995 added mark up. I got one from Lake Elsinore Honda in May MSRP $31,260 + $1,995 for the protection package which includes wheel lock trunk tray All season floor mats mud guards and paint protection. Also paid $599 for black badges and let's not forget mandatory star guard. $1, 295 total $35,149. Of course they over charge for the options but at least no brazen mark up.
Stay away from dealerships like Ocean Honda.
How does the Civic Hatchback compare to the Mazda 3 in terms of handling and steering? Visibility in the Civic looks a lot better thanks to the huge windows and tires seem to have alot more grip at 235 width. However the Civic Sport Touring is nearly as expensive as a much more powerful Mazda 3 Turbo Sedan.
Would love an answer to this as well. I'm still waffling over this new Civic Hatchback or a Mazda 3 Hatchback / CX-30
I'm starting to thing the only 6MT's made were those given to reviewers to review! No dealers have any or able to get any. I had to settle for a CVT coming in November.
I think you are correct. I have seen a couple in the lower trim. Not one in the touring. I got the car for the wife so it was going to be a CVT anyway. You are not going to be disappointed. After 4 months this car is good really good.
I recently purchased the 2024 version of this car with manual. My local Honda dealer had two Sport Touring hatchbacks with MT.
Not sure if an Si model will be down the line but IMO front helical LSD should be offered on these base MT versions. Also all brake discs seem to be grossly undersized......
An LSD is kinda overkill on a FWD non-sport model car. The brakes are small, but the Civic is pretty light for it’s size, so it doesn’t need a ton of braking force.
I have no clue why the Pearl Gray color is so popular, it looks like primer….we got our son one in this color….he loves it…
My first thought when you started driving, "Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should..." LOL. The car looks and sounds like it's a lot of fun to drive.
No reason to double clutch any modern day manual vehicle anymore. Do you mean rev matching? Totally different.
@@wbwayne8887 I was totally quoting “The Fast and the Furious” lol.
@@flystevejobs
Oh yeah, forgot about that. 😂
@@wbwayne8887 😂🤣😂 no worries bro
*Let's just spray on primer and call it "Space Gray"* - Honda 2021'
Spinning the wheels going from 1st to 2nd has nothing to do with torque. You’re dropping the clutch when the rpms are still ~1500 rpm higher than where 2nd gear is. 1st to 2nd is a tall shift and rev hang is brutal.
I prefer the look of the 2022 Mazda 3 both inside and out, better speakers and it does have more torque for the same trim. But then the civic has more back seat legroom, more storage, better mpg and less blindspots. It's a tough one! Going to have to test drive both a make up my mind but both look like great cars.
What did you go with?
@@snc237 actually bought a Mazda CX5, 2021, carbon turbo AWD. Very happy with it
eloquent and elegant aren't synonyms (re: hatch tonneau cover)...minor heads up (that I'm likely just bringing up b/c I think it looks a bit janky)...thanks for the vid Kirk!
It was speaking to me though 🤣
@@KirkKreifels touché 🤓
Looks like a pretty crosstour accord.
I have yet to see a review of a Civic Hatchback WITHOUT a turbo and WITH the CVT. Is this because the bottom end Civic configured like this is a total snail?
Pretty sure that’s cuz the only engine available on the hatch is the 1.5L turbo, no 2.0L NA
@@bdav94 Nope. The Civic Hatchback LX trim comes with a 158hp 2.0L NA engine.
@16:45 there's a city called Go To Hell, MI. That's classic.
Imagine trying to tell people where you live
Everything about this car makes me think they benchmarked it against the Mazda 3. I’d still choose the Mazda 3 though.
Mazda3 is a great vehicle. This handles and brakes better but the 2.5 skyactiv turbo is a stout engine
Good luck trying to find one. If you do, I have no doubt you'll be paying at least $1,000 over MSRP or more. Why, that damn chip problem. Just take a look on-line at your local dealerships, regardless of the brand of car. Compared to pre-Covid, and this Chip shortage, dealers have very few cars in stock..
Sonic gray pearl looks better in person, not thorough a camera.
with bright light you can see green mica in that color. have the 2021 civic hatch
please put your hand off the gear stick, it's very annoying to see
Man,is this thing coming to europe? Cant find anything on internet about this car coming to europe?
I don't think so
Nice car but i hate the rev hang. When it comes to a manual transmission i want it as pure as possible otherwise i might as well drive an automatic.
what did you pay Kirk?
Everything looks great except the rev hang - needs a lighter flywheel ?
Sorry, it wont be executing any crossovers with the ride height and ground clearnce.
Is a beauty though.
What percentage of crossover drivers do you imagine will ever take them offroad?
@northcoastcopper Few. But people like the ride height. And the many features automakers offer on crossovers that they don't for sedan and hatchbacks. Great for families. People are not going offroading but the ground clearance helps. New sedans and such have gotten ridiculously low for no reason. Older cars had much higher ground clearance. Many areas of the US have terrible roads and are not perfectly flat. A crossover is just easier to live with in that aspect. I saw all this as a dude who owns a Honda Fit. These cars are just not designed with bad roads in mind. I gotta be extra careful.
The EXL should be offered with a manual. That’s the volume model. The Spirt Touring at $30k is too much. Corolla offers all hatchbacks with manuals.
I think Honda is seeing the 2.0L NA Civic Sport as the volume model. That one has a manual.
@@EclipseCircle I agree that the 2.0 MT is their volume manual. It’s offered in more colors, too. But there’s cloth seats and no sunroof. You’re right.
Don’t get a honey bee trapped inside, it will build nest in that grill and you’ll have honey later.
You rev it to high it doesn’t need more then 2500-3000rpm for it to be smooth it makes max torque from 1600-4500 I’m already in the power band
Kirk drives the manual correctly!!
If you can't do fast shifts, why would you get a manual?
To do slow shifts 🤷♂️
@@KirkKreifels That is not an advantage unless you are 80+ YO
@@pooh4519 hey, hey, I resent that statement
@@clwilli Truth hurts.
These entry level cars are built for fuel economy. A Civic isn't a sports car. Dropping a manual transmission into an economy car doesn't turn it into a sports car. If you want to do fast shifts, then buy a sports car. And besides, slow shifting can be fun for some of use LOL! I get satisfaction out of shifting my manual car so that it's as smooth and quiet as an automatic.
15:35 Nobody cares about how well a car drives if you need to carry stuff. The sloping rear hatch is a no go if you want to do practical and adult stuff. The Civic hatch has lots of cargo room because for stuff like golf clubs, but if you want to move a dresser, bookshelf or something tall then you need a car where the roof doesn't slope into the cargo area. The whole point of a 5-door hatch is that it provides the most utility in the smallest vehicle footprint.
That's when you get someone with a truck or big SUV. This is a compact hatch.
Here's hoping the Si trim has better rev hang
Not holding my breath. They put the rev hang on purpose for emission reasons. The GTI and WRX are plagued by this.
God, I hate the rev-hang.
Unfortunately it's a thing will all new vehicles since they all have drive-by-wire throttle. This is why manuals are not as ideal as they used to be
I wish Honda would go back to all DWB suspensions. Once they switched to struts, the ride quality went to sh-t. I drove nothing but Accords for years but when they put struts on it the ride was so harsh I practically had kidney damage.
You could always get a TLX 🤷♂️
More & more carmakers are making less of the 4-/5-door sedans & more of the SUV/crossovers. Not to mention the fact that more Americans are choosing automatic transmission over manual transmission. So, manual transmission cars are becoming a rarity.
How does one let a carmaker know what kind of cars they should make? Write them an email through their website? Have car journalists like you make our voices heard?
Sales. Fan enthusiasm does no good. Best example is the S2k
The best way to let a carmaker know what you want is to buy what you want. You unhappy there are fewer and fewer manuals? Then buy a new manual, don't buy used. Add to those sales numbers, and show that there is consumer demand. Last year, I put my money where my mouth is. I bought 6-speed 2020 Corolla hatchback. I bought it new, without even knowing how to drive it. That's how you let your favorite carmaker know what they should make.
I think the next Honda Accord might only come in hatchback form. Similar to an Audi A7.
Can you get a bike in it?
Should have been built in Swindon, 👊
The new generation Civic looks older than the previous generation Civic on the exterior.
Looks like the 10th generation hatchback is faster than the 2022
Honda is Best vihicle
N/a will barely make power with power adders. With a turbo you can make good power with just a tune. If you want N/a for power go big displacement. Small displacement needs turbos so it goes just not a fart can like most civics use to be.