Wave. sounds a bit rude dunnit, especially the fact that your saying it’s a down side to the channel. There were 101 ways to make that less impolite... I don’t think you meant to be rude but just be careful with wording
I joined a Vrchat meetup server yesterday and then I found aspiring porn director, an ERPer, giant skeleton monster that we said was thrillseeker, a gang of bill ciphers and gang of ninjas, and then we made fanfic of daddy thwillseewker. I think that will be first and only time play Vrchat for now.
Agreed, I was surprised I made it threw that level with my WMR headset given how glitchy the tracking can be, it certainly added a lot of extra tension but once he was "contained" I was very, very happy
@@x32i77 Scripted or not, being there in the moment, in VR, it's terrifying the only thing I can think of worse than that is Alien Isolation VR but I might be too much of a coward to try
Me: This immersion thing is beautiful, but so expensive. I dont have any more cash to invest in it. Bhaptics: We are proud to announce our newest motorized jockstrap, coming next- My remaining kidney: NOOOOOOO!
I just want a real vr treadmill... movement in vr needs to change ASAP... I'm saying this as someone used to smooth locomotion. I know there are treadmills out there but they are far from ideal.
@@spzi_ I'm sure that's a possibility. I have a large VR area and still have managed to hit a wall. What product tracks your feet and lets you use running in place as movement?
@@jerrettfarmer You don't need feet tracking for it, some PlayStation games add it as a locomotion mode and there is a Minecraft clone that does it on pc, there are also vr shoes that also do it but I don't remember the name, people say it's very awkward
Either way I just don't see it going any other way, even if both the game industry and porn industry both waited for haptics to become more consumer friendly in terms of price point. Then I firmly believe that the porn industry would still get it out first, because it would be less work.
They're already sorta going that way. Not just with haptics like the vest, but with toys and stuff. There's supposedly some toys that sync up with what's going on in the porn.
@@angrydoodle8919 A lot of previous cutting edge tech has been bankrolled by the porn industry, mind you! Increasing video resolution and 3D video are big examples.
Best thing for immersion is the biggest play area you can "afford". I play Alyx in a room with 7mx6m and I mostly walk, teleport once in a while only. When I reach the guardian zone on the Quest I snap turn and continue walking. Nothing beats physically walking in the environment. And also wireless is for me the only way to go, cable breaks the immersion.
I kickstarted the Woojer haptic Vest and that thing is amazing. It does 7.1 sound from 8 vibration locations (4 front, 4 back - upper and lower torso) and I wear it all the time when watching movies and intense shows at home, as well as gaming and listening to music. Sort of like standing towards the stage and the front speakers at a concert, being able to *feel* the music enhances it SO much, and it’s the same with shows and movies. Especially since I don’t live in a house where I can blast my surround sound system anymore, I can still crank up the haptics to 11 at 3am and not bother a soul. I truly believe it’s going to be big for the future of gaming. Also, you must be hot wearing a mask while playing VR haha.
From the Invention of the television: Don't sit to close to the tv, you will hurt your eyes. 2020: I truly don't care, get those screens as close to my face, and make it look good!
There's a reason for that. Early CRTs where unhealthy to sit close to due to radiation. Later CRTs and all LCDs don't have that problem. The reason VR headsets are so bulky is because they need properly spaced lenses to distort the stereo images rather than just putting your eyes up to a flat screen. Yes I know it was a joke but I know some people legitimately believe VR will make you go blind because of the screens being too close.
@@penn2093 Exactly. What becomes the issue though is the constant focal distance. This won't cause you to go blind, but can be damaging because your eyes are not focusing at any other focal range for long periods of time. However, this is still not different than staring at your computer monitor for hours at a time. So really, it's comparable to watching TV or staring at a computer monitor.
Imagine this: full dive exist and can simulate any feeling. Its relatively new so there's still allot of vulnerabilities to to system. You download something fishy and get a virus, but don't realize it. Next time you go full dive the virus activate and you feel the most excruciating pain of your life till you take the full dive off.
Yeh, I gotta say VR is very scary sometimes, cos we are just in the begining and some times you have a glimpsy of what it will be in 20 to 50 years, right now we are in the Atari form of VR just to compare...
I was under the impression for the longest time that a haptic suit was just a "rumble suit". I had no idea that it uses EMS to stimulate certain muscle groups to simulate mass or weight. Here I was with a TENS unit thinking I had come across a groundbreaking idea. Sad Panda
That being said, I am currently trying to figure out if I can get a hold of the material that the "shock pads" are made of. This (link) is a great example. Implement this into VR (if it hasnt been already). tensunits.com/products/tens-garmetrode-conductive-elbow-sleeve-universal-size
"We are nascent dreamers - sleeping things in some strange place between wakefulness and eternity. When we wake up, we'll know. When we wake up, it will all make sense again. We are becoming. The thing that we are, is what we were always meant to be. This, and that, are all points in time. Places. Spaces. We are more, and we are less, and the lesser is soon to fall away."
6:27 "I never noticed the heart beat wow it's so amazing and immersive" I bet the coders are screaming at you now it's been on your hand the entire time it blinks when you're down to 1 hp
Thrill, I love your videos and your passion for the content! Tuesday Newsday is my favorite day of the week, and when I see a notification for a new video on any other day, its the first thing I watch when I get home. Your killin it brotha.l! Thanks for the great content!
Basically, precision is not that important. The fact that your body gets physically stimulated at all is already 80% of the experience. Same with resolution and FOV: Even though there are differences, head-tracked stereo vision at realistic geometry is already the most important part (having high enough resolution to be able to read text is useful feature though). Out of the 5 senses, vision sound, touch, smell and taste, taste is the only one that is not present at all times and can be ignored due to being so situational. The rest are very relevant for immersion. So far only vision and sound have been mainstream, and touch is evolving. (body presence that VR gives would kind of belong to touch category too) However, similarly how touch has been previously disregarded, the importance of smell shouldn't be underestimated either. I think that people are very unconscious about smell since they rely on other senses so much, but if you imagine yourself being put in different locations blindfolded, or your fiance changing their perfume, you would notice sense of smell becoming more important. The musty smell of a basement in Half Life Alyx or smell of fresh rain in a forest would surely make huge difference in immersion compared to the stale same-old smell in your room. Actually, that makes me think of a few other things: wind and temperature. The most important difference here would be the distinction between indoors and outdoors. At its simplest, a single fan in the corner of the room might be able to sufficiently simulate the change between indoors/outdoors, since a fan also cools you down a bit.
I saw a comment about a VR Treadmill here, and it got me thinking why is there not a feet tracking mat of some sort? I loved my wii fit scale. Yoga with that was killer. Also just the running in place with the motion controllers was really good. Currently I am using a set of interlocking foam playmats to create a 4' by 4' space that works really good as a prox mat inside my 8' by 8' guardian. I would love if my mat tracked my feet for running in place and other fitness aplications. I just see this as so possible, and wonder what the barrier is?
You’ve said before that the VR community’s size and passion surprises you. I think that’s because there is also a dormant aspect to the VR community: where people like me have been passively waiting for VR to go full-throttle. This is my first ever comment about VR despite being passionate about it since Facebook first sponsored oculus. Even my sister, who denounces video games, is already losing her patience from her passive excitement of the progression of VR. The community is a lot bigger, we’re just waiting for that definite big public breakthrough.
If anyone wanna visualise how it feels like, there is video of this suit with a visual indicator showing which motor are turning on with corresponding action. It's on Virtual Reality Oasis.
Apt question: Is this haptic experience going to"dull" like the initial Vr-experience itself. You know the feeling, getting your mind blown initially but then you get "used to" it?
It happens with everything. I remember when I watched minecraft mods for the first time - I was mind blown. I never got to play minecraft as a kid, so I borrowed the handbooks from friends and memorized recipes. Now when I play vanilla minecraft, it felt washed out and mundane. But then again... it is being updated again. Anyways, to the point, its natural to find something new exciting. I dont think it will ever become 'mundane' per say, but we definently will get used to it to a degree as we become familiar with the devices. I mean, theres alot of technology oriented 25-35 ish year olds who must have felt that way about computers, and they still get excited by new graphical technologies. But for us, aince we were raised with whatever they grew up with, we won't truly grasp the world of difference that device makes. So maybe one generations computer is anothers virtual reality is anothers SAO nerve gear. Whew, long tangent. Oh random thought, what are VR esports gonna look like? That shit is gonna be sick.
In my experience your enjoyment of a product depends more on how you feel without it, rather than when you use it. You know exactly what you’re missing out on, when You Are missing out on it.
Totaly on your side! I invested into bhaptics too (thanks the ready player one hye, ghihi) and damn it! I played so much with it, even if its not supported it feels much more imersive. Playing even beatsaber now without it, makes me miss like the half of the expierience. Feeling the beat even further, gunshots, getting hit or just standing on a earthquake.... but as u said, its not easy to get other peoples hands on it. Even if they try and enjoy, sadly lots of my friends have glasses and problems with vr or dont want to invest in extra lenses for it :(
The part where you mentioned a force-feedback replacement cover, made me realize including vibration in just the headset (along with the controllers as normal), would be a big step in increasing immersion without requiring the user to buy any accessories. And since it would be included in all headsets, there would be more incentive for games to support it too.
@@Meeg- Oh man, PSVR and the Vive are pretty old, too. You're gonna be blown away if you get something new like the Reverb G2. I'm personally waiting on my Valve Index to get here. Have fun if you go through with it!
@@Coey8900 I've only tried the vive and the rift cv1. After seeing through the lens comparison videos I can only imagine the difference between old and new headsets.
Yeah I thought the psvr was the shit. I got a quest and it's so good. And if you pair it with a pc it's amazing, no wires. The tracking is better and the lenses are clearer
One of my most memorable haptic experiences was using Ultrahaptics. Touching things in mid air (uses sub sonic ultra sound waves) A lot more subtle than vests but I think will be incredibly helpful especially with controller-less hand tracking. So compelling that Leap Motion bought it out and rebranded it UltraLeap. Makes perfect sense
Great video, Thrill! I completely agree with you on this! I play HL:A with the bHaptic vest, facial interface and Cybershoes. Valve index kit as well. By far the best and most immersive experiences of my life!
if anyone has ever shot a rifle near you while you're wearing body armor, you can feel the armor squeeze you from the pressure of the bullet entering the atmosphere. Little touches like this that developers might not know about, are alternatives to things like enemies showing up on radar after shooting.
Just a few years back we didn't expect VR to be as mature as it is now. Full-body tracking, standalone headsets, wireless adapters, haptic vests. We now also have actual games and extremely detailed experiences. With Oculus Quest it has become more accessible too. The future is sure exciting.
Got a aura interactor and the headphone splitter for under $40 bucks and now have subwoofer haptic feedback for all my vr games. With that and natural locomotion for steam vr titles, its awesome
Bro imagine the future when everyone has one of these vest and just waking up in the morning and suiting up and strapping everything to yourself and finally putting the headset on, the epic suiting up montage
2021 will be the year of VR for me (very much helped by your vids). I need a new experience. Yet another reskinned RPG/plat former/shooter is no longer enough. I need more. Haptics may be a step too far right now, but very VERY cool to see the future. I want in.
As someone who literally has a heart condition wherein my heart can leap into SVT (super-ventricular tachycardia) and basically race wildly out of control (like 220-260 bpm ... sitting down doing nothing)... I ... uh... think I am going to skip any heart beat haptics should they become available to me.
Wait what about haptic gloves? Also if I may, all you need to add a full avatar would be straps for the elbows and knees considering the rest of the body is already measured/still standing. It would add a whole new layer. I also wonder how laying down on grass, the feeling of a light breeze or a splash of water. Would those be possible?
Now that is interesting. The heartbeat thing. I knew you could control your heartbeat by contact with someone else or eye contact, but using a motor to simulate it and tricking your body to adopt it is... unusually clever, really.
Ive seen somewhere that someone used hypnotism during vr chat through meditation but i also read that hypnosis needs physical stimulation. However i can see a session work with vr haptics. Itll really create a method of online therapy or other services the future will see
What if instead of rumble motors... Force feedback suits used linear solenoids that could "push" against you? Imagine a line of linear solenoids across your shoulder so that when you ready your virtual rifle by pressing its stock against your shoulder that you'll feel it push against you as it fires when you pull the trigger.
Have you reached up and touched a pipe on the ceiling in HLA. It totally felt like it was there, my brain instantly believed it was a real place. It truly is an amazing game.
Hey Thrill! I just wanted to let you know that Ilysia has been fully funded with 20 days left to go and is currently working on it's stretch goals! I know you probably can't put it in a video this week but I just thought I'd let you know :)
Could you show the hardware you use for mounting your VR Headset Cable to the ceiling? I noticed that it follows you very nicely when you duck, and want to know how you did that.
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Can you make a list of the haptics I would want to buy? I am gonna have a G2 with Knuckles and lighthouse as my set up.
Did you change the title? I swear it was somewhere along the lines of “now I can feel a headcrab on my face with vr haptics”
Wave. sounds a bit rude dunnit, especially the fact that your saying it’s a down side to the channel. There were 101 ways to make that less impolite... I don’t think you meant to be rude but just be careful with wording
I joined a Vrchat meetup server yesterday and then I found aspiring porn director, an ERPer, giant skeleton monster that we said was thrillseeker, a gang of bill ciphers and gang of ninjas, and then we made fanfic of daddy thwillseewker. I think that will be first and only time play Vrchat for now.
I don't think I would want to feel *_jeff_* on my face
he scares me enough
Agreed, I was surprised I made it threw that level with my WMR headset given how glitchy the tracking can be, it certainly added a lot of extra tension but once he was "contained" I was very, very happy
My name jefff
It was pretty skripted ( Elevator) and easy to avoid him actually ^^
Still great though
What about tea-bagging?
@@x32i77 Scripted or not, being there in the moment, in VR, it's terrifying
the only thing I can think of worse than that is Alien Isolation VR but I might be too much of a coward to try
VR is seriously the future. Can't wait for everyone to catch up
Daniel!! I love your videos :DD
Can we get some VR musical videos from you?
True! Didn't expect to see you here. Your videos are hilarious!
Yes
keep up the good work daniel, your videos always make my day better.
“You can get shot in vr”
Me: meh
“You can get hugs in vr”
Me: immediately checks price while crying
Depression: 100
I have a 2 year old Vive. Best purchase ever! Someday I’ll get them haptics. Now to convince family and friends overseas to do the same. Then hugs.
Hahahahahaha stay alone
Saddo
The sexual tension between thrill and vrchat is mind blowing
Minibattle Lop VRchat can be very sexual sometimes
you can say it's...
thrilling
its actually grimm
@@izzyint V e r y - is an understatement
@@cpa4able nicee
Me: This immersion thing is beautiful, but so expensive. I dont have any more cash to invest in it.
Bhaptics: We are proud to announce our newest motorized jockstrap, coming next-
My remaining kidney: NOOOOOOO!
Hehe, fumnny.
*tyler1 scream*
Big funny
@Qi Qi wrong comment lol
Faptics
LOL
Random: goes to hug VR friend
Haptic suit: *Propeller plane noises*
Best comment 😂
Imagine how scarier games in the future would be if all games implemented a heart beat into your chest
imagine a heart beat in your chest and when you heart beat rises you start hearing your own heart beats xD this would be terryfying in horror games
or get legit heart attack from scary games that feels too real, cant wait tbh
THATS GENIUS
That sounds extremely disorienting?
Gav Art well depends if you are calm or not and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an option to turn it off
These titles for the VR haptic videos just keep getting more and more specific and strange lol
I just want a real vr treadmill... movement in vr needs to change ASAP... I'm saying this as someone used to smooth locomotion. I know there are treadmills out there but they are far from ideal.
Unless you have the money
I think if they could track feet we would be set. You could run or walk in place to move around.
@@jerrettfarmer that exists and it's extremely awkward, you are also far more likely to hit a wall
@@spzi_ I'm sure that's a possibility. I have a large VR area and still have managed to hit a wall. What product tracks your feet and lets you use running in place as movement?
@@jerrettfarmer You don't need feet tracking for it, some PlayStation games add it as a locomotion mode and there is a Minecraft clone that does it on pc, there are also vr shoes that also do it but I don't remember the name, people say it's very awkward
Thrill: gets feet rubbed by catgirls in VR
my credit card: I'm in danger!
You sound like a closeted furry.
@@anonymousperson6228 nice
@@anonymousperson6228 but he admits interest. u sure ur not projecting?
Sad
@@chrismofer Ohhh someone call the wambulance with that 3rd degree *BURN* Baby!
just get the porn industry to do some big VR things, when haptics become consumer friendly, BOOM profit.
Either way I just don't see it going any other way, even if both the game industry and porn industry both waited for haptics to become more consumer friendly in terms of price point.
Then I firmly believe that the porn industry would still get it out first, because it would be less work.
They're already sorta going that way. Not just with haptics like the vest, but with toys and stuff. There's supposedly some toys that sync up with what's going on in the porn.
I'm aware, just haptic suits isn't part of that as far as I'm aware.
so for me it was about haptic suits specifically or just full body immersion.
urk lursnund but people will start to associate haptic suits with porn and people will think anyone with a haptic suit is a perv. :(
@@angrydoodle8919 A lot of previous cutting edge tech has been bankrolled by the porn industry, mind you! Increasing video resolution and 3D video are big examples.
Last time i was this early, the quest was being sold.
that hurt more than when the IPD adjuster went missing
I got mine :D
@Ablaze Eclipse yeah but I got mine when it came out lol
Ablaze Eclipse he got his original quest on launch day
I got the last one on amazon :D
Half life Alyx is so immersive that explosions to the face gave me tinnitus
It's a bit too immersive even without the haptics if you ask me lol
Best thing for immersion is the biggest play area you can "afford". I play Alyx in a room with 7mx6m and I mostly walk, teleport once in a while only. When I reach the guardian zone on the Quest I snap turn and continue walking. Nothing beats physically walking in the environment. And also wireless is for me the only way to go, cable breaks the immersion.
I kickstarted the Woojer haptic Vest and that thing is amazing. It does 7.1 sound from 8 vibration locations (4 front, 4 back - upper and lower torso) and I wear it all the time when watching movies and intense shows at home, as well as gaming and listening to music. Sort of like standing towards the stage and the front speakers at a concert, being able to *feel* the music enhances it SO much, and it’s the same with shows and movies. Especially since I don’t live in a house where I can blast my surround sound system anymore, I can still crank up the haptics to 11 at 3am and not bother a soul. I truly believe it’s going to be big for the future of gaming. Also, you must be hot wearing a mask while playing VR haha.
From the Invention of the television: Don't sit to close to the tv, you will hurt your eyes.
2020: I truly don't care, get those screens as close to my face, and make it look good!
Lol boomer joke
There's a reason for that. Early CRTs where unhealthy to sit close to due to radiation. Later CRTs and all LCDs don't have that problem. The reason VR headsets are so bulky is because they need properly spaced lenses to distort the stereo images rather than just putting your eyes up to a flat screen.
Yes I know it was a joke but I know some people legitimately believe VR will make you go blind because of the screens being too close.
@@penn2093 Exactly. What becomes the issue though is the constant focal distance. This won't cause you to go blind, but can be damaging because your eyes are not focusing at any other focal range for long periods of time. However, this is still not different than staring at your computer monitor for hours at a time. So really, it's comparable to watching TV or staring at a computer monitor.
@@ThisKory Or also just regular reading.
@@luislebronaponte2737 at a certain point, yeah. Astigmatism is no fun.
I can't tell if this is a good thing or a bad thing
context: the old title was "I felt a headcrab SUCK on my FACE with VR haptics"
Yeah your profile picture shows it
Yes
I don't know, ask your parents.
sked implement vr haptic into vr roblox 👀
didn't expect to see you here
"thats a thing"
just for you, it will be a thing for me in 10 years
Considering the vest is 500$ and even I have one... Nah it's a few years max
Kira Agapetos when I get a job I’m planning on getting one, you would recommend it I’m guessing?
@@bobbryar5345 It could use more games, but the games it does work for, it works very very well for. Alyx and Sairento really stand out for me.
@@catsosan Do remember some people can't even buy VR still. (Namely unsupported countries)
@@TheTiagoFire hopefully VR and haptics are rolled out to every country in the future 😄
Who else can't wait to be assaulted on VRChat?
i cant even afford a pc vr headset i have a psvr but dont buy it it has 120hz screens but it cant even reach 50fps on a basic game
Honestly I cant wait to have Bhaptics with native support or a better suit in general so I can do all that is and can be done in vrchat
@@Error-33 just use a quest or wait for the new quest 2 that comes out, use a vr link cable and link it to your pc it saves a lot of money
oh no
oh no
Next up on vr inventions, an actual headcrab that grabs on to your head.
it even stabs into your neck!
@@kode5030 so innovative!
@@kode5030 The full dive method is not invented yet but it doesn't matter. We still have a way to make you face the real danger!
Boneworks
Imagine having friends lol
Ikr🤡
Let alone having friends that own or even like VR
@@Bluscream this is true
My friend trynna sell me his rift s for 400 dollars):
@@angeloc1340 sounds expensive, are you sure he is your friend?
That heartbeat explanation seemed so cool. You make me wish I could afford an apartment and space for vr so bad 😭
I love how half life alyx is such a big game that there have to be disclaimers for both spoilers and non spoilers
I love this channel, it really shows the amazing side of VR
wow awesome, waiting for something like this since 5+ years
And you’ll have to wait more to afford it
“It takes some suspension of disbelief”, that’s a sentence that’s been used for the whole VR experience
Me jamming the haptic foot attachment down my boxers 😂
Bruh
Oh shit i forgot about the darkside of using haptics
just add a detector block on ur characters crotch area and strap it on ur dong
3:51 "I get FREE body massage!"
I don't think that word means what you think it means. hahaha coff coff 1000 bucks of haptic suit for hugs coff coff
VR Chat:
Yeah ima GIRL
G - Guy
I - In
R - Real
L - Life
WHEEZES
Very original
Yes we are only AI we do not exsist in the real world.
Haha
I’m getting “Ready Player One” flashbacks, but this sounds awesome as
Imagine this: full dive exist and can simulate any feeling. Its relatively new so there's still allot of vulnerabilities to to system.
You download something fishy and get a virus, but don't realize it. Next time you go full dive the virus activate and you feel the most excruciating pain of your life till you take the full dive off.
@Alonso Reyes I don't want to either trust me lol
Oh gosh no don't give them ideas
Take it off, run AV, put it back on
I got a VR Haptics Belt Ad right before this video lmao
Can't wait to see what VR will turn into in 50 years when I'm old and retired.
Yeh, I gotta say VR is very scary sometimes, cos we are just in the begining and some times you have a glimpsy of what it will be in 20 to 50 years, right now we are in the Atari form of VR just to compare...
You do know that someone is gonna put haptics on not so normal places
That's the best part
That'll be much nicer for girls... Kinda jealous.
I was under the impression for the longest time that a haptic suit was just a "rumble suit". I had no idea that it uses EMS to stimulate certain muscle groups to simulate mass or weight. Here I was with a TENS unit thinking I had come across a groundbreaking idea. Sad Panda
That being said, I am currently trying to figure out if I can get a hold of the material that the "shock pads" are made of. This (link) is a great example. Implement this into VR (if it hasnt been already). tensunits.com/products/tens-garmetrode-conductive-elbow-sleeve-universal-size
The realistic experience I give my customers for vr is so real that it leaves them speechless
*When they get shot in a game I shoot them in real life*
Thank you very much for your passionate in depth fluent reviews and descriptions of your experiences and thoughts. I enjoy them immensely.
the one dislike is thrill seeker for the expirience
I just noticed i accidently pressed it lol
@@Poo69 as far as I know the majority of dislikes are misclicks, maybe youtubers should start giving a warning to double check
@@blueninja012 Either way the algorithm sees it as fan engagement!
4:10 this is why phantom sense is amazing when you get to actually feels things
Love being early on thrill vids. Still continue to love your videos, man
Same
Yup
I don't, cuz there's no comments to read :/
@@BruhNot you have a point
Imagine if a vr game could feel your heartbeat, when you get a fast bpm it will not be as scary. But as soon as you get calm...
Just got my index today, had to wait 2 months but i'm happy i have it now
Man I cant stop watching your videos, crazy how big and expansive the vr world is and its only growing!
"We are nascent dreamers - sleeping things in some strange place between wakefulness and eternity. When we wake up, we'll know. When we wake up, it will all make sense again. We are becoming. The thing that we are, is what we were always meant to be. This, and that, are all points in time. Places. Spaces. We are more, and we are less, and the lesser is soon to fall away."
6:27 "I never noticed the heart beat wow it's so amazing and immersive"
I bet the coders are screaming at you now it's been on your hand the entire time it blinks when you're down to 1 hp
When Haptic items don't cost as much as the headset itself... Let me know.
Thrill, I love your videos and your passion for the content! Tuesday Newsday is my favorite day of the week, and when I see a notification for a new video on any other day, its the first thing I watch when I get home. Your killin it brotha.l! Thanks for the great content!
Basically, precision is not that important. The fact that your body gets physically stimulated at all is already 80% of the experience. Same with resolution and FOV: Even though there are differences, head-tracked stereo vision at realistic geometry is already the most important part (having high enough resolution to be able to read text is useful feature though).
Out of the 5 senses, vision sound, touch, smell and taste, taste is the only one that is not present at all times and can be ignored due to being so situational. The rest are very relevant for immersion. So far only vision and sound have been mainstream, and touch is evolving. (body presence that VR gives would kind of belong to touch category too)
However, similarly how touch has been previously disregarded, the importance of smell shouldn't be underestimated either. I think that people are very unconscious about smell since they rely on other senses so much, but if you imagine yourself being put in different locations blindfolded, or your fiance changing their perfume, you would notice sense of smell becoming more important. The musty smell of a basement in Half Life Alyx or smell of fresh rain in a forest would surely make huge difference in immersion compared to the stale same-old smell in your room.
Actually, that makes me think of a few other things: wind and temperature. The most important difference here would be the distinction between indoors and outdoors. At its simplest, a single fan in the corner of the room might be able to sufficiently simulate the change between indoors/outdoors, since a fan also cools you down a bit.
I saw a comment about a VR Treadmill here, and it got me thinking why is there not a feet tracking mat of some sort? I loved my wii fit scale. Yoga with that was killer. Also just the running in place with the motion controllers was really good. Currently I am using a set of interlocking foam playmats to create a 4' by 4' space that works really good as a prox mat inside my 8' by 8' guardian. I would love if my mat tracked my feet for running in place and other fitness aplications. I just see this as so possible, and wonder what the barrier is?
Someone in vrchat: hugs thrill
Thrill: BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Love your work! They really give me hope for VR to become as big as it should be!
im still waiting for the low body haptics if you know what i mean
3:49 it sounds like you have a big fan running
I voted for you for top influencer!
You’ve said before that the VR community’s size and passion surprises you. I think that’s because there is also a dormant aspect to the VR community: where people like me have been passively waiting for VR to go full-throttle. This is my first ever comment about VR despite being passionate about it since Facebook first sponsored oculus. Even my sister, who denounces video games, is already losing her patience from her passive excitement of the progression of VR. The community is a lot bigger, we’re just waiting for that definite big public breakthrough.
I’m writing this down so I can tell people “I was there”
Lavi OH I WAS THERE TOO
If anyone wanna visualise how it feels like, there is video of this suit with a visual indicator showing which motor are turning on with corresponding action. It's on Virtual Reality Oasis.
Being early be like:
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My mentality is that it is just mindless attention that you only feel for like half a day, just ignore them
Can't believe my boy Thrill don't wear socks with his shoes.
Apt question: Is this haptic experience going to"dull" like the initial Vr-experience itself. You know the feeling, getting your mind blown initially but then you get "used to" it?
of course, like everything. Eventually you get used to it and it becomes normal
It happens with everything. I remember when I watched minecraft mods for the first time - I was mind blown. I never got to play minecraft as a kid, so I borrowed the handbooks from friends and memorized recipes. Now when I play vanilla minecraft, it felt washed out and mundane. But then again... it is being updated again.
Anyways, to the point, its natural to find something new exciting. I dont think it will ever become 'mundane' per say, but we definently will get used to it to a degree as we become familiar with the devices. I mean, theres alot of technology oriented 25-35 ish year olds who must have felt that way about computers, and they still get excited by new graphical technologies.
But for us, aince we were raised with whatever they grew up with, we won't truly grasp the world of difference that device makes. So maybe one generations computer is anothers virtual reality is anothers SAO nerve gear.
Whew, long tangent. Oh random thought, what are VR esports gonna look like? That shit is gonna be sick.
In my experience your enjoyment of a product depends more on how you feel without it, rather than when you use it.
You know exactly what you’re missing out on, when You Are missing out on it.
Totaly on your side! I invested into bhaptics too (thanks the ready player one hye, ghihi) and damn it! I played so much with it, even if its not supported it feels much more imersive. Playing even beatsaber now without it, makes me miss like the half of the expierience. Feeling the beat even further, gunshots, getting hit or just standing on a earthquake.... but as u said, its not easy to get other peoples hands on it. Even if they try and enjoy, sadly lots of my friends have glasses and problems with vr or dont want to invest in extra lenses for it :(
1:31 "Pantsu monster"
:):):):):):) Lol
The part where you mentioned a force-feedback replacement cover, made me realize including vibration in just the headset (along with the controllers as normal), would be a big step in increasing immersion without requiring the user to buy any accessories. And since it would be included in all headsets, there would be more incentive for games to support it too.
And I thought my PSVR was immersive. oh well, time to sell my kidneys.
naah man, real VR needs way more power than a playstation could give
@@leonf8199 I tried a demo for the HTC vive and I was blown away. I'm thinking about getting a reverb g2 soon.
@@Meeg- Oh man, PSVR and the Vive are pretty old, too. You're gonna be blown away if you get something new like the Reverb G2. I'm personally waiting on my Valve Index to get here. Have fun if you go through with it!
@@Coey8900 I've only tried the vive and the rift cv1. After seeing through the lens comparison videos I can only imagine the difference between old and new headsets.
Yeah I thought the psvr was the shit. I got a quest and it's so good. And if you pair it with a pc it's amazing, no wires. The tracking is better and the lenses are clearer
This is my favourite VR channel. You're doing great stuff, mate. I hope by the time the Quest 3 comes out they'll want to send you a review model.
Literally whenever a notification comes on my phone that thrillseeker has posted I’m just like yesssss 😂😃
One of my most memorable haptic experiences was using Ultrahaptics. Touching things in mid air (uses sub sonic ultra sound waves) A lot more subtle than vests but I think will be incredibly helpful especially with controller-less hand tracking. So compelling that Leap Motion bought it out and rebranded it UltraLeap. Makes perfect sense
People who like deep vr memes
"I felt that"
This has gotta be like a $3000 setup at this point
Great video, Thrill!
I completely agree with you on this! I play HL:A with the bHaptic vest, facial interface and Cybershoes. Valve index kit as well. By far the best and most immersive experiences of my life!
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if anyone has ever shot a rifle near you while you're wearing body armor, you can feel the armor squeeze you from the pressure of the bullet entering the atmosphere. Little touches like this that developers might not know about, are alternatives to things like enemies showing up on radar after shooting.
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@@vantheman7587 I was :)
Benjamin Smith check newest, he is, he still needs to stfu but he is right
i dont care
@@Nutlicker683 I'm aware that it's cringe
You do a really good job with your vids man, keep it up
Just a few years back we didn't expect VR to be as mature as it is now. Full-body tracking, standalone headsets, wireless adapters, haptic vests. We now also have actual games and extremely detailed experiences. With Oculus Quest it has become more accessible too. The future is sure exciting.
Got a aura interactor and the headphone splitter for under $40 bucks and now have subwoofer haptic feedback for all my vr games. With that and natural locomotion for steam vr titles, its awesome
they need to make a hptic suit like a wet suit where it goes from neck to toes
Imagine playing a horror game in the future with haptics and being able to feel something tap ur shoulder
Bro imagine the future when everyone has one of these vest and just waking up in the morning and suiting up and strapping everything to yourself and finally putting the headset on, the epic suiting up montage
2021 will be the year of VR for me (very much helped by your vids). I need a new experience. Yet another reskinned RPG/plat former/shooter is no longer enough. I need more. Haptics may be a step too far right now, but very VERY cool to see the future. I want in.
6:19 that's so cool, that:s absolutely the next level of VR.
Instant subbed. I just got into vr and I hope it gets better over time.
As someone who literally has a heart condition wherein my heart can leap into SVT (super-ventricular tachycardia) and basically race wildly out of control (like 220-260 bpm ... sitting down doing nothing)... I ... uh... think I am going to skip any heart beat haptics should they become available to me.
Wait what about haptic gloves? Also if I may, all you need to add a full avatar would be straps for the elbows and knees considering the rest of the body is already measured/still standing. It would add a whole new layer. I also wonder how laying down on grass, the feeling of a light breeze or a splash of water. Would those be possible?
Now that is interesting. The heartbeat thing. I knew you could control your heartbeat by contact with someone else or eye contact, but using a motor to simulate it and tricking your body to adopt it is... unusually clever, really.
Finally, you wore a haptic suit while playing Half-Life: Alyx.
Ive seen somewhere that someone used hypnotism during vr chat through meditation but i also read that hypnosis needs physical stimulation. However i can see a session work with vr haptics. Itll really create a method of online therapy or other services the future will see
Imagine how scary horror games would be with small vibrations going up your spine like you felt someone behind you just before they whispered
What if instead of rumble motors... Force feedback suits used linear solenoids that could "push" against you? Imagine a line of linear solenoids across your shoulder so that when you ready your virtual rifle by pressing its stock against your shoulder that you'll feel it push against you as it fires when you pull the trigger.
Have you reached up and touched a pipe on the ceiling in HLA. It totally felt like it was there, my brain instantly believed it was a real place. It truly is an amazing game.
I love your channel
Hey Thrill! I just wanted to let you know that Ilysia has been fully funded with 20 days left to go and is currently working on it's stretch goals! I know you probably can't put it in a video this week but I just thought I'd let you know :)
that group hug there... was a very scary, futuristic, and magic at the same time... SAO is almost real.
Seriously the mod community is so amazing and Half-life seems to be at the forefront of advancements going to the next level
imagine getting hugged irl and feeling a swarm of hornets buzzing in your shirt
Honestly Hug Times Ahead
Could you show the hardware you use for mounting your VR Headset Cable to the ceiling? I noticed that it follows you very nicely when you duck, and want to know how you did that.
Love the vid as always man