this is my time 0:14 - cant decide 8:35 - nervous breakdown 10:33 - fix me 11:27 - ive had it 13:00 - no values 14:55 - gimmie gimmie gimmie 17:52 - black coffee 22:45 - six pack 25:09 - depression intro 25:56 - depression 28:29 - slip it in 36:26 - slip it in bass solo 39:35 - kickin and stickin (fucked up) 40:56 - jealous again 43:00 - room 13 45:04 - revenge 46:59 - tv party 50:33 - rise above 53:00 - louie louie 56:09 - kickin and stickin (fucked up) (check out my dead kennedys and descendents guitar covers 🫡)
With the amazing success of The Misfits reunion shows, its a shame that this is whats left of Black Flag. With the right help, Greg could have put together a band that lived up to those old performances but instead its Mike V telling kids not to stage dive. Sigh.
This was an absolutely crazy pick for a headliner. This set was like watching a jam band doing Black Flag Karaoke and it all dragged on forever in front of a nearly empty room. It honestly felt like a mockery of a band that was super important to me growing up. womp womp
honestly this doesn't sound completely horrible the biggest problem is the tempo of the songs are way too slow and it loses a lot of its aggression that way. rise above feels like it's almost at halftime...its just doesn't hit like it should.
It's crazy that people are just noticing this is bad. I saw them with Mike several years ago. I'm 44 and it was one of the worst shows i I've ever seen. Flag with Keith and the guys is the only good black flag left.
@damianb2374 go see them, then tell me your experience or stfu. If you can't tell from the rest of the comments, plenty of people experienced the same thing. I loved Mike, and i loved black flag before hand.
Mike V has always been one of the skaters who influenced me the most, when I found out he had joined Black Flag I was even more excited about his career, but apparently he doesn't like people doing stage diving at shows, which disappointed me and canceled everything. that he did gloriously in his career for me. hahahahaha
They should’ve got FLAG to play instead. Keith, Dez, Bill, Chuck and Egerton would’ve shit all over this rubbish. Saw Greg’s version of black flag 10 years ago and it made me want to cover up my black flag tattoo unfortunately.
Because you don't care about music and never understood what punk is about? Have fun in your little narrow minded world where everything was so much better back when you were young.
@@scumXskates I've seen Flag clips, and that sounded way more energetic. I'd heard how bad Black Flag shows were, and that's why I never watched any. But I was curious haha.
Oh Greg.... Now I remember why I walked out of that Black Flag show @ the Hollywood Palladium so many years ago. This music is deceptively challenging. Without ROBO or Bill Stevenson on drums..., Chuck Dukowski on bass..., sound and rhythms leave a lot to be desired. Mike Valley, I know you are trying but you sound like a singer attempting to imitate Henry Rollins. Dez was one of the best vocalists (my opinion). Greg, you should be offering your listening public a better product.
@sigmundhightower1766 I HONESTLY HATED HIS VOCALS..... ESPECIALLY IN GIMME GIMME GIMME!!! I DID FEEL THE ROLLINS VIBE TOO! YOU AREN'T ALONE WITH YOUR OPINIONS...AS I SHARE THE SAME THOUGHTS!!! ITS COOL THAT THE BLACK FLAG NAME IS STILL OUT THERE ACTIVE.......BUT IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A BLACK FLAG COVER BAND!
I will say that seeing FLAG however many years ago was probably one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to, and Keith is my favorite BF singer. But, this really doesn’t sound bad at all for a bunch of old dudes playing music one of them wrote as a teen/young adult 🤷♂️
Who is the drummer and on bass. Thought they killed it!!! Looking at the comments below I think I watched a different show. But, process of weeding out?? I guess
I have to give Greg credit where credit is due. He’s up there in age, and he’s out touring. Touring sucks at 20! Could it be better? Definitely. But time sadly moves fast and Greg’s prime has long since passed, but at least he’s still giving it what he’s got. Some rehearsal before embarking on a tour could have helped tremendously though…I don’t care what band you are or how old you are, you have to practice to be good live. Hopefully they pick up the pace a bit by the time they get here in 4 days. Last time I saw them, was so long ago now it’s hard to swallow. But they used to rip. One of the best bands I ever saw live.
As a huge and obsessive black flag fan who likes albums like The Process of Weeding Out throughly, I have to say this sucks. Why is the bassist butchering Slip it In?? I think they turned every song into a jam session like the grateful dead did it (I know greg is a self-admitted fan of them) but it sucks and makes the whole band look completely lacking in cohesion. Vocalist isn’t even that bad if they were doing less idiotic noodling on the tracks that weren’t written with that in mind. I feel like if they were actually playing the songs this would have been a decent live performance
Greg was the head, Hank was the mouth, Duke was the heart and Raymond was the soul... now when I hear this, the music only goes into my head and nowhere else. I guess there was only two eras: Duke era and Kira/Bill era...
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Idk this isn’t nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Crowd really picks up as the show goes on. Stop looking at pre-show crowds and assuming that’s the actual turnout.
is Greg trying really hard to play off the beat for jazzy artistic purposes? the founding member is the worst part of the lineup, how strange.. i played a show a few months ago with some folks who did a black flag cover set, and it was much more enjoyable than what i'm seeing here.
I saw em live a couple years ago. He 100% is intentionally playing the main riffs off beat and i dont understand why. The soloing is kinda cool because its his own style but it goes on for way too long
after all these years greg ginn still can't play guitar and I absolutely love it ...but LMAO at the Rollins impersonator ...never cared for his vocals . I you've never heard black flag before this ..go listen to the ...and everything went black album and forget everything else .
Mike Vallely is a legend in skateboarding. If you know him, you know he does this band so well. And it’s Greg’s approval that matters most. So thankful I’ll get to see them in dec
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this is my time
0:14 - cant decide
8:35 - nervous breakdown
10:33 - fix me
11:27 - ive had it
13:00 - no values
14:55 - gimmie gimmie gimmie
17:52 - black coffee
22:45 - six pack
25:09 - depression intro
25:56 - depression
28:29 - slip it in
36:26 - slip it in bass solo
39:35 - kickin and stickin (fucked up)
40:56 - jealous again
43:00 - room 13
45:04 - revenge
46:59 - tv party
50:33 - rise above
53:00 - louie louie
56:09 - kickin and stickin (fucked up)
(check out my dead kennedys and descendents guitar covers 🫡)
22:55 Very punk moment from Mike V
Does he not want bro to stage dive or sum 😭😭
He always done this since he was a roadie for black flag before he join the band
@@michaelg7320 🔥
Lame
He kissed him
Fun fact if you put your video speed at 1.5x, the song Depression actually sounds like the original tempo 😂
Maybe they're just keeping the 70s/80s Black Flag tradition of alienating fans with unlistenable schlock alive.
Watching 70% of the venue leave, then hearing a 8 minute version of Can't Decide must have been very painful
Even old people can still learn lessons
Joe Biden on guitar
Hahahah!!! About as believable as him claiming he’s a 5 handicap at golf
That's Greg Ginn
@@tay-yj9ps no shit.
😂
catatonicyouths got me here... go and figure.
me too bro
me three bree
I thought it was rollins from the video, thats why i came here
@@wra7h no tarzan hair/booty shorts/bare feet
22:54 getting mad at kids for enjoying your music is the most loser jock shit ever, mike v should just stick to being a cariuma shill.
In all fairness, it’s likely the venue who asked him to not allow it (liability). Even still, I would have allowed it and gotten banned 😂.
@@CaptainMyCaptain33nah, this is from This Is Hardcore Fest, dude is just lame
With the amazing success of The Misfits reunion shows, its a shame that this is whats left of Black Flag. With the right help, Greg could have put together a band that lived up to those old performances but instead its Mike V telling kids not to stage dive. Sigh.
Check out Flag, it’s made up of other members of Black Flag like Keith Morris and Dez Cadena. They’re ACTUALLY really fucking good.
he's burned too many bridges, so now he gets Mike V
Love em. Wish they would do one more tour.
This was an absolutely crazy pick for a headliner. This set was like watching a jam band doing Black Flag Karaoke and it all dragged on forever in front of a nearly empty room. It honestly felt like a mockery of a band that was super important to me growing up. womp womp
Not a very punk opinion, but still a VERY important opinion nonetheless 😂
It took me about 13 seconds to figure out which song this was, and it's one of my favorite Black Dlag songs lol
Like a tribute act
@@raowb666 Black Dlag rules.
Room was empty bc the people are mostly there for the beatdown shit
honestly this doesn't sound completely horrible the biggest problem is the tempo of the songs are way too slow and it loses a lot of its aggression that way. rise above feels like it's almost at halftime...its just doesn't hit like it should.
Yeah that and Mike V sounding like your drunk uncle at karaoke
Agree
Try 1.25 speed it's better
That mic grab at 52:46 was the best vocals of the night
notice how mike v realises this and quickly snatches it back
this sounds and looks significantly better than a lot of the live footage that can be found from the recent years
Going to see black flag tonight in lauderdale… this performance here is keeping my expectations at a very low level lol
How was ?
Is that Mike v?! Tell security to watch out!!
This is not very good.
I agree. So hard to play their catalog. Sorry to say but FLAG does it so much better.
Flag is the superior present version. At least they were all in the original run of the band. This is just.........sad
@@rickbrust7928 I agree, as for the present..., FLAG sounds like the original BLACK FLAG more than the present day BLACK FLAG.
@@sigmundhightower1766 Have you seen their Groezrock set from like 2012? Incredible
Sounds good after the opening solo
It's crazy that people are just noticing this is bad. I saw them with Mike several years ago. I'm 44 and it was one of the worst shows i I've ever seen. Flag with Keith and the guys is the only good black flag left.
so your experience counts for every show does it?
@damianb2374 go see them, then tell me your experience or stfu. If you can't tell from the rest of the comments, plenty of people experienced the same thing. I loved Mike, and i loved black flag before hand.
Spot on!
Sad it turns out that Greg Ginn was a monster the whole time. In the early 80s he was in my top 5 of favorite guitar players
Mike V has always been one of the skaters who influenced me the most, when I found out he had joined Black Flag I was even more excited about his career, but apparently he doesn't like people doing stage diving at shows, which disappointed me and canceled everything. that he did gloriously in his career for me. hahahahaha
They should’ve got FLAG to play instead. Keith, Dez, Bill, Chuck and Egerton would’ve shit all over this rubbish. Saw Greg’s version of black flag 10 years ago and it made me want to cover up my black flag tattoo unfortunately.
No one from Black Flag will play with Ginn anymore.
@ yep, he’s all on his own and has been for a while hasn’t he. His version of black flag sucks.
@@mattdenney1192 at least I got to see Flag. They were awesome.
well... this is a ... band
Sorta
Greg playin this shit so slow lmfao
Tbf, he's probably drunk, high or both.
Thank you whoever recommended 1.25 speed!!!
I've never watched any Black Flag shows from the reunion period. I was right to avoid them.
Because you don't care about music and never understood what punk is about?
Have fun in your little narrow minded world where everything was so much better back when you were young.
I saw them a couple years ago & had fun, but probably won't go see them again.
I saw Flag, when they were touring around. That was fun and atleast had more original members than this
@@scumXskates I've seen Flag clips, and that sounded way more energetic. I'd heard how bad Black Flag shows were, and that's why I never watched any. But I was curious haha.
I was fortunate to see Flag when they were touring. They were the real deal. This is a joke.
Greg is the only original member from Black Flag 🔥
he create black flag and is Brother the logo and all the desing
I mean, he IS Black Flag…..He wrote the songs, created the band and the band has had so many line ups it’s not surprising….😂
This band completely honks now
I saw Flag with Keith, Chuck, Dez, and Bill here in England and they were way better than this.
I feel like this would be better as just a live audio recording from KEXP instead of a public performance lol
this is definitely not Black Flag.. This is Greg with somedudes
Spotted Parris Mayhew in the back! ⚡
catatonic youths post. I was at this show. It was absolutely unbearable. We left embarrassed for even being there.
What I'm sayin'!
Grandpa used to be a punk rocker....
Oh Greg.... Now I remember why I walked out of that Black Flag show @ the Hollywood Palladium so many years ago. This music is deceptively challenging. Without ROBO or Bill Stevenson on drums..., Chuck Dukowski on bass..., sound and rhythms leave a lot to be desired. Mike Valley, I know you are trying but you sound like a singer attempting to imitate Henry Rollins. Dez was one of the best vocalists (my opinion). Greg, you should be offering your listening public a better product.
Mike V is dope fam I don’t think he’s trying to be Henry lol
@@wholewheatlad5079 with all due respect...., just my opinion, that is all. Just seems a little bit of a struggle to me.
@sigmundhightower1766 I HONESTLY HATED HIS VOCALS..... ESPECIALLY IN GIMME GIMME GIMME!!! I DID FEEL THE ROLLINS VIBE TOO! YOU AREN'T ALONE WITH YOUR OPINIONS...AS I SHARE THE SAME THOUGHTS!!! ITS COOL THAT THE BLACK FLAG NAME IS STILL OUT THERE ACTIVE.......BUT IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE A BLACK FLAG COVER BAND!
@@theblackmanarmedwithacamera WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING ?????
YEAH I FEEL IT TOO AND MIKE V SUCCKS ASSS
Esto no es Black Flag, es un grupo ke toca sus canciones con un miembro de los verdaderos Black Flag.
Not black flag. Just Greg Ginn with some other guys
I will say that seeing FLAG however many years ago was probably one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to, and Keith is my favorite BF singer. But, this really doesn’t sound bad at all for a bunch of old dudes playing music one of them wrote as a teen/young adult 🤷♂️
Who is the drummer and on bass. Thought they killed it!!! Looking at the comments below I think I watched a different show. But, process of weeding out?? I guess
Guess I should have asked after I watched the whole show. Mike V. Said who they are at the end. Yeah I reply to my own comments, what of it!,🤟🥴
I have to give Greg credit where credit is due. He’s up there in age, and he’s out touring. Touring sucks at 20!
Could it be better? Definitely. But time sadly moves fast and Greg’s prime has long since passed, but at least he’s still giving it what he’s got.
Some rehearsal before embarking on a tour could have helped tremendously though…I don’t care what band you are or how old you are, you have to practice to be good live. Hopefully they pick up the pace a bit by the time they get here in 4 days. Last time I saw them, was so long ago now it’s hard to swallow. But they used to rip. One of the best bands I ever saw live.
This is soooo bad, mike v sucks😂😂😂
The drummer goes alright here
Not really feelin' the drummer. He's "aight"..., just not for this band or the rhythms of this music. He sounds "off" to me.
@@sigmundhightower1766 fair call im a Art Cruz and Alex Bent fan myself
Nah, this drummer is the epitome of overplaying here. Ruined the intro to slip it in and put in way more than what should’ve been in there
@@sigmundhightower1766how ‘weird’
Oh man this hurts
Is that parris in the back ?
As a huge and obsessive black flag fan who likes albums like The Process of Weeding Out throughly, I have to say this sucks. Why is the bassist butchering Slip it In?? I think they turned every song into a jam session like the grateful dead did it (I know greg is a self-admitted fan of them) but it sucks and makes the whole band look completely lacking in cohesion. Vocalist isn’t even that bad if they were doing less idiotic noodling on the tracks that weren’t written with that in mind. I feel like if they were actually playing the songs this would have been a decent live performance
Once the first song kicks in after a few minutes, it sounds great. Not sure why all the hate.
Greg was the head, Hank was the mouth, Duke was the heart and Raymond was the soul... now when I hear this, the music only goes into my head and nowhere else. I guess there was only two eras: Duke era and Kira/Bill era...
This is definitely way better than Greg’s lineup in 2013. Except Ron Reyes was the only one at the time who sounded good
Greg Ginn is not Black Flag without Henry or Keith or Dez or Robo or Chuck.
What gets me is that the sole problematic original member is the weak link here.
Its like taking 5 random people off the sidewalk and saying pretend u kno what ur doing. Theyl love it. Wel give u a drummer tho
is this on the wrong speed?
This makes me sad
Same Leo, same.
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Favorite band of my youth, so I’m biased. I honestly think it sounds really good. Plus they’re 10 years older than me and still pull it off.
this sounds more like an ok tribute band than The Black Flag lmfao
Why does it sound slower tho
WHY ??!?
Mike V on vocals😳Probably the only worthy
Not really 😂😂😂
He blows
Terrible. More like white flag. Give it up already.
So glad I saw Flag in NYC. When I saw BF at Warsaw with Reyes it was not good. This is much worse. 😮
I dont know why they still exist
Mike V makes this work. I'd still go.
rough
this sucks
Sad how this bands journey ended up.
Idk this isn’t nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Crowd really picks up as the show goes on. Stop looking at pre-show crowds and assuming that’s the actual turnout.
Brother... This was a headlining set. House was packed before their set. This is whos left
people paid money for this set and here i am watching a minute and clicking off
sad to see this shit
*paid*
@ you right
Thats not the real Black Flag
is Greg trying really hard to play off the beat for jazzy artistic purposes? the founding member is the worst part of the lineup, how strange.. i played a show a few months ago with some folks who did a black flag cover set, and it was much more enjoyable than what i'm seeing here.
I saw em live a couple years ago. He 100% is intentionally playing the main riffs off beat and i dont understand why. The soloing is kinda cool because its his own style but it goes on for way too long
dude what the fuck is this intro? i like the song cant decide but 2 minutes in unbearable
Intro 83’
He really should stop trying to make solos 🤦🏼
after all these years greg ginn still can't play guitar and I absolutely love it ...but LMAO at the Rollins impersonator ...never cared for his vocals . I you've never heard black flag before this ..go listen to the ...and everything went black album and forget everything else .
MIKE V!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!
And gregg nah
“…and Hulu, too!” Hard…
Absolutely horrible
The biggest joke in punk. The Greg Ginn Ego Project
Tribute band
Always enjoy the east coast trying to 2 step to west coast bands. So called "free thinkers" as soon as a song goes mid tempo
…yeah that’s ummm hectic hey…
Greg Ginn is 70 years old and still doing this. How cool is that!?
I reckon thats what Mike tells the stage diver he grabs, watch out for the senior citizen
Not very
Would be cool if A. they actually sounded good and B. if Ginn wasn't a child abuser.
Not at all
God joob young boy
God job? OK…
No Henry Rollins?
Where have you been?
@ never been a huge fan of black flag so I had no clue
@TH30guitar gotcha. It’s been like 40 years. Rollins (and all other previous BF members) will have nothing to do with Ginn. Sad.
What's up with Commie symbol in the beginning of video.
I remember when this was heavier than metal back in the day. Still love this shit!
Paris Mayhew in the back!
where?
@@lifetimepav its that not paris in the motorhead shirt? I could be wrong
@@yvavi6851it is
@@yvavi6851 Yeah, that's him! In the Motorhead shirt.
Fukin great skater utter bollox front man
When did mike v join black flag?
Literally twenty years ago
@@attemptstobreakliterally not.
Holy shit, this sucks
Fail Flag(
Fake Flag No Bueno 🤦♂️
it’s dope seeing how much energy Mike puts in during room 13. definitely my favorite song from BF
Yikes
Wack Flag
changing the lyrics to TV Party to make them more relevant is probably the highlight
The guy is 70 years old!
Is that Danny Way?
Wow do they suck!!!
Seen them back in the day with Rollins..
Whats going on here why u uploading 2024 tihc so early
Mike Vallely is a legend in skateboarding. If you know him, you know he does this band so well. And it’s Greg’s approval that matters most. So thankful I’ll get to see them in dec
@@CurbBlurbs i think u replied to the wrong comment
@@CurbBlurbsthis shit sucks what are you talking about. Absolute cringe.
This is embarrassing 😮
Bruh
Mike V is the fifth singer of Black Flag.