Lots of ancient 1960s-70s-80s Skins and ex-Skins (or maybe younger ones who weren`t even there) trying to virtue-signal and rewrite history here by pretending they loved Blacks & Asians and didn`t kick the shite out of them given half a chance lololol....I grew up in London in the 1960s-70-80s and remember exactly what you were all like,stop lying.
All these big budget films with CGI effects can never stand up to gritty, relatable and utterly believeable films like this. The acting is second to none and this is one of my all time favourite films.
You are absolutely right, you know what really upsets me though is when they make really, REALLY amazingly made movies and years later believe they can remake them better when the first one looks like it was filmed flawlessly, i.e. Annie, The Wizard of Oz, The Shining(I believe Steven King didn't like the first one because he didn't have any part of making it), Carrie, Footloose, etc., on very rare occasions the remake is better than the original. Peace and much love sent from Ontario, Canada.
So, so true. Hollywood seems to have abandoned this sort of film work for two dimensional, CGI driven vacuous junk. I remember watching this in my twenties, when it was first shown and being blown away by the performances. No surprise that Tim Roth went on to be a star. Another film that's worth a watch that Tim Roth was in around that time for TV was 'Meantime' ( ua-cam.com/video/UXN2v5pkNWw/v-deo.html ). It also stars performances from Gary Oldman, Alfred Molina and Phil Daniels. That one was directed by Mike Leigh. Him and Alan Clarke both great directors, who really brought some tremendous performance out of the people they worked with. Their modern day equivalent would be someone like Shane Meadows. (Check out 'Dead Man's Shoes' by him, a favourite of mine.)
We were friends and colleagues. One day he arrived at work with no hair and tattoos, then left to do this film. I met him a few years later at a reunion, by then he was Hollywood famous but still had time for a chat. Lovely talented man.
True. .. and to all brainwashed by media ppl: this isn't about the pigmentation of one's skin (skinhead's bff was black btw) it about - CULTURE SHOCK example: you hate sci Fi movies, then all the sudden, there's predominantly Sci-Fi movies on TV and streaming! Do you hate with all your heart sci-fi movies..... No of course not, you just want things the way they were men's and expected to be within reason along with progression and giving allowances to others as you would want as a guest and somebody else's nation/country/culture, yeah? If I were working in india, and all of a sudden the country was hammering down on Americans or white people or orange people with purple polka dots,
Young Trevor does have a point. You get rewarded for toeing the line, saying what they, whoever they actually are, want you to say, and not rocking the boat. So much of our society IS, even forty years later, total bollocks. The trick is to realise that, and finding a way to live, without fucking yourself up.
I'm a Canadian and I agree with you. It shows that those in government want slaves that obey without question instead of those that speaks out against the evil's done by those Hosers in government who need to take off eh!
The superintendent's blackboard writings at 21:31 detailing the school-to-prison pipeline are still relevant, although some of the terms are different from where I went to school in the US. Never heard it explained so eloquently.
@@jamessones4044i think the film works because it isnt really about racism or neo nazism in britain per se. Trevor is just an extremely violent tempered troubled angry lost youth looking for trouble wherever he can, and the far right is likely a desire for some sense of belonging. He befriends a black kid, and largely seems to hate everyone
He was brilliant in "Rillington place" based on true story about serial killer John Christie,the 3 part drama was a remake of the 1971 film "10 Rillington place" which starred Richard Attenborough.
The blackboard scene changed my life. The superintendent character was well written and even better acted. Great movies are always relevant to society.
😂 In my mid 50s now and a couple of months ago I bought some evo stick to glue some wood boards together. As soon as I opened the tin the early 80s came flooding back. Good job the missus was in the house otherwise the gluing project would have been abandoned and the white bread 🍞 would have been given to the 🐦 so I could use the bag 😃 I didn’t even know that evo stick was supposed to be used for wood 🪵 glue until I bought it from wilko 🤣😂🤣
I was too wee in 82 to experience the joys of evo-stick but mum will always remember me enjoying the whiff of ⭐⭐⭐⭐ whilst she filled up her Mini Mayfair. I always made sure to help out at the pump!
It's amazing to see Tim Roth so young and delivering such a powerful performance. And I really think that this plot can transcend ANY culture, time and place 👍
First time viewing this - wow what a hidden gem, Tim Roth killed it. This all felt so real, if I'd been a young kid viewing this at the time I would have been scared straight. Bravo to everyone associated with the film.
Sorry Steve but it wasn't a master piece in music as the film is about a racist skinhead and the Exploited are punk. i know why don't we do a movie about jazz but in the background play hip-hop..get what i'm saying my friend? and as an ex-skin i'm sick to the fcuking teeth of these types of movie..Made in Britain, Romper Stomper, American X, This is England.. ALWAYS portraying the skinhead as a nazi..bit difficult when the original skinhead music was JAMAICAN SKA.
@@KerrMarrin-vn1kv, TBh, I think the choice of the Exploited was more about just how bloody furious we all were back then, no matter if we were punks, skins or whatever. Personally speaking, I spent the '80s in a state of near constant hopeless rage. BUT, to return to your point, I knew a few Skins, and the "racist" tag certainly didn't apply to them.
Tim Roth is playing a totally unpleasant character with no redeeming qualities and still manages to make him somewhat likeable. Absolutely superb performance.
Trevor has tons of redeeming qualities. He's just too irrationally angry and that's tragic. Testosterone kills many many people. Guy like trevor needs an easy job with a cool mentor. Great mechanic there. He needs to know that life isn't hell. Life is hell at this point.
There's a name for that: "Antihero." Tony Soprano, Tony Montana, The Joker, Hannibal Lecter, (etc.) Murdering psychopaths, adulterers, violent criminals who SOMEHOW manage to endear themselves to the audience through sheer character.
@@NormAppleton No. Trevor has few, if any, redeeming qualities about him and it has nothing to do with testosterone, because there are women who can be just as sick and mentally twisted as Trevor becomes. Trevor is an example when a bright minded person with no guidance because of a broken system acts out when they feel they have nothing to lose. Trevor is a deplorable, hateful, racist skinhead who unfortunately, because his intelligence, tricks himself into believing 80s British National Front propaganda and becomes a street thug with a vile cause. The saddest thing is that Trevor is told what will happen to him if he doesn't bother to change his behavior and is given an option out. What does he do? He decides to piss it all away by embracing his fate with open arms and take someone else down with him in the process. Rather than using his intelligence to right himself, he neglects it so he can continue to screw up until his fate is in the hands of the police. Not juvenile reform centers.
I hated him throughout the film. He was a racist smart arse, who did nothing but bad for himself. But I strangely wanted him to redeem himself, you know ? After a while, like the few characters that saw hope in him changing his ways, I gave up. When someone has their mind convinced like that, there's nothing u can do. Great film, I loved it
Last time I saw this was in the 80's. All the kids were talking about it at my school as it was well publicised. I always remember our teacher saying 'not all watching that are you'!? 'You shouldn't be.'
a truly great film, very much 'of the era' - gritty British realism, Alan Clarke the innovative director & Tim Roth is magnificent as the archetypal skinhead.... love it!
I knew I'd seen him somewhere else. He seems to look much older than he was in Scum, but then Clarke always used a lot of the same actors in his films. Different rapists in the original 1977 Scum though.
That scene and then the suicide after where some grim powerful stuff... I remember watching it as a kid and being pretty traumatized by that one... Films are too polished to be believable and real nowadays compared to these gritty scenes and acting
Still got the original recording off the box. Tim's acting is brilliant, the nuances and micro signals he gives off - superb. The rest of the cast too give brilliant performances, some of whom appear in later films/programs. edit- Thanks for the upload, was good to watch an up mastered version, but can't speak about the ads...originally they were strategically placed and only 2 add breaks at that, here they punctuated Trevor's amazing diatribe....pound notes! 😆
If the premise of this film was anything less than outrageous in 1982, I wonder how many more young 'Trevors' there are in Britain today that find this character relatable?
Controlled immigration is great for any strong society we have just had so much it's damaged our culture and society irreparably forever. There in no fixing it, it will only ever get worse
Let’s not forget the Errols too. Whilst someone would like to widen the divide between Trevors and Errols, there’s one thing that remains objectively true: they have more in common on the basis of class than they have differences.
G'day to you! Thanks for this ,wanting to see it for years, Tim Roth is brilliant, when I wore the Boots n Braces back in the early 70s we had no Racial Crap here, we had all folk with us from Italy ,Slavs , German even a Aboriginal Guy who had been living in Glasgow and came back to Oz!
£23:50 per week, my first wage working as a trainee provisions hand for 6 months just around the corner from where I live. Good memories - shit government, even shittier now.
Well I got £25:00 per week as an apprentice in 1992 so taking into account inflation that supermarket job advertised at the job centre was a good wage in 1982 compared to what I was on a decade later.
@@paulwilliams8389 My first Dole check back then was the grand sum of £17 per week. Enough to buy about 20 pints. Today, that would have to be about £100.
I was a punk for many years in the 80s. There were plenty of skinheads in our group and at least one basically modelled himself on this character,even down to the walk. He wasn't quite as aggressive as Trevor but there was plenty of vicious people around who came from literally nothing and were happy to embrace the look,music and politics of being a skinhead.
Great movie. Tim Roth the perfect lead roll. Hopefully it’s uncut. I’ve just started watching it as I type this comment. If I don’t edit it, it means the movie is unedited and as good as I remember watching it from the first time I’d seen it. 😎
42 years ago, I remember watching this when it first aired all those years ago. Tim Roth was brilliant, what a performance! The character Trevor was slowly but surely going down the toilet, in real life he'd be dead by now.
@@realMaverickBuckley So predictable that there would be dipshit muppets like you unable to think for yourselves repeating the bs you have picked up from the powers that control you. Pathetic.
Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor what he was doing 12 years later living in America trying to be a modrnday Bnnie and Clyde.
Great Tim Roth, what a good start he had in this one, been in some great films since and this was totally different. Loved him in Rob Roy with Liam Neeson.
Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor,what he did 12 years later living in America trying to be a modernday Bonbnie and Clyde.
Being a 54 yr old and being in the care system from 1982-1986 Ivan relate to most of this…..I’ve seen every sort of broken children you can think of…I was there for truancy and bad behaviour etc I comcider myself to lame not my mum..,I saw things that I shouldn’t of for a young child but I k ow my life was easy compare to some of the kids in there…..horror stories don’t come close
Roth plays it so well too, the superintendents actually getting thru to him and then he leaves the room, and immediately Trevor goes on the offensive against the other authority figures (all first names with you lot) the way you can see the gears turning in Trevor’s head when he’s about to go from an implicit mention of racism to a full blown rant. Really fucking powerful scene
I was 10 when this came out,, and Trevor scared the life out of me,, looking at this now, Trevor looks like a kid, i remember the skinheads in Cardiff, around that time, lots of glue bags about.
If anything takes me back to the 80s it's seeing discarded glue bags everywhere, nowadays they seem to have gone the way of white dog shit nowhere to be seen
@@iangoldie6396 Yeah the bags can still be found round our way but they're attached to half plastic pop bottles with skunk residue stains.. But its weird that you mentioned about the white dogs eggs that were laid everywhere during the 80s.. I think the petfood companies added a lot more bonemeal to the tinned food because thats what causes that phenomena .. I only just found out a couple of years ago after feeding my dog on loads of bones and his cacka was like sandstone lol !
Excellent movie I remember it from back in day. I was 16 when this came out one of the best years of my life , Back in the day when the job center didn’t require what they do now. my brother 14 , He was a skinhead himself. One of my favorite movies Tim Roth is an awesome actor
Yep, you could stay on the Dole forever back then. My Uncle had the mortgage on his house paid for while on the dole after being made redundant in the 80's -he decided never to work again.....Can you imagine that happening today?
Eric Richard is also underrated in this seminal classic. I remember when this was first screened on television. It blew me away.. Alan Clarke was never one to pull any punches in whatever he was portraying
@@Marvin-dg8vj yes absolutely. He made scum for BBC television it got banned.. So he then made the feature film. Both are brutal portrayals of life in the big house. He also made the other classic the firm.. starring Gary Oldman as a football hooligan.. Alan Clarke was first class
This film had such an impact on me as a kid. I still use some of the dialogue in my everyday speech (and I didnt realise that till I saw the movie again recently). "Shut it.....and keep it shut" (Pc Hanson) lol
@@the_tersorium I thought that copper in the police cell at the end, with the truncheon and the obey authority speech, was completely real. Reminds me of so many coppers around during that period.
Sham 69/4-Skins/Red Alert/Blitz/Cockney Rejects/Gary and the Gonads/The Business/Skrewdriver.....and how many other bands made the late 70s early 80s exciting? What a glorious time to be alive 😊 and to be a part of it.
@@pipebombmailer22 1975 to 1985 was the greatest musical revolution in my opinion. And let us not forget about all of the Great American bands: heart attack, battalion of saints, the germs, black flag, iron cross, ODFX, Jodie Foster's army, mdc, ssd, minor threat, bad brains, the neos, red cross, youth brigade, and how many others? Thank goodness for maximum rock and roll fanzine for tying all of those scenes together
@@danielorlando8172 man, those are some fucking great bands, usually when i talk to people about old school punk rock i name the main ones that people know about, respect for knowing heart attack and battalion of saints and jfa etc.
@@pipebombmailer22 the first show I went to was in October 1981 to see the bad Brains in New York City. In January 1982 I got to see heart attack at The peppermint lounge on Broadway. The Ukraine Hall on 2nd avenue hosted a lot of hardcore shows. Gbh, the exploited, gosh I can't even remember half the shows I went to, and that is not counting cbgb's matinees. The subhumans, kraut, the psychos, agnostic front, Murphy's law, nausea, but I could never bring myself to go to a GG allin show. The thought of being hit with human excrement was kind of a turn-off.
@@danielorlando8172 fuck yeh bro, all great bands, im seeing gbh live tommorow with a few other bands. i couldnt see most of these in their prime cus i was born in 2010 but fuck it 😂😂
Time Roth is a classic actor,this film is one of my faves of all time along with "the frim"with gary Oldman not Tom Cruise and also have also look at the film "meantime"which also stars tim Roth,Gary Oldman and Phil Daniels.
The moment that the truncheon is brought down on his leg near the end, and his face contorts into an expression of hurt and dismay, only to transform at length back into Trevor's accustomed cocky grin, is acting of the highest calibre.
Just watched his film Now way home and immediately thought of this beauty..It was the talk of the school for months when it first aired on tv in the 80s..The man’s a class act..👍
i was at fairhome camborne assesment centre i was only 6 ,i was a bit disruptive then later i turned 7 and stayed at chelfam mill barnstabe till end of 1978 i was about 10, as i grow up i asked why i went there they told me because of my fathers drug use i said why didnt my sisters go into care i went to many schools but i turned out ok but it made my shy till my 30s i always got a stigma about disliking the middleclasses because how they treated me now days not too bad but i can tell a snob without they live glasses
I went to Chelfham mill school from 75/76 , was confused as to why i went there as only 9yrs old , viaduct was where i used to spend most of the day if not wandering the countryside . Brings back a lot of memories .
40 years on not a lot has changed. Disaffected youth is still disaffected youth, and the dissafected youth of forty years back are now cursing their juniors who are just the same as they were.
Oi! I'm one of the disaffected youth from the 80's, and the only people I'm cursing are the same old political fuck ups who keep on making the same old sodding mistakes. We didn't all grow old and start wearing cardigans! 😛
Tim Roth, with no formal training, this is his first acting role. An absolute phenom, with the kind of talents that can’t be taught.
called keeping it real. more of the acting world should fucking do it.
Lots of ancient 1960s-70s-80s Skins and ex-Skins (or maybe younger ones who weren`t even there) trying to virtue-signal and rewrite history here by pretending they loved Blacks & Asians and didn`t kick the shite out of them given half a chance lololol....I grew up in London in the 1960s-70-80s and remember exactly what you were all like,stop lying.
@@mjh5437oh so you met every single one of them then?
@@mjh5437I'm in Blackpool where during the 1980s Indian population went in the prom Paki bashing !!!!!!
@@mjh5437Who are you talking to? The OP was simply commenting on Tim Roth's extraordinary acting skills.
40 years on, this remains a powerful performance from a young Tim Roth!
I was trying to place his face!
Yep you can see the difference between true charisma and good acting. Tim has it both in spades.
'Ere. You a carpenter?
brilliant actor. Great in Reservoir Dogs too
42 years now
All these big budget films with CGI effects can never stand up to gritty, relatable and utterly believeable films like this. The acting is second to none and this is one of my all time favourite films.
I agree. Taxi driver
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You are absolutely right, you know what really upsets me though is when they make really, REALLY amazingly made movies and years later believe they can remake them better when the first one looks like it was filmed flawlessly, i.e. Annie, The Wizard of Oz, The Shining(I believe Steven King didn't like the first one because he didn't have any part of making it), Carrie, Footloose, etc., on very rare occasions the remake is better than the original. Peace and much love sent from Ontario, Canada.
So, so true. Hollywood seems to have abandoned this sort of film work for two dimensional, CGI driven vacuous junk.
I remember watching this in my twenties, when it was first shown and being blown away by the performances. No surprise that Tim Roth went on to be a star.
Another film that's worth a watch that Tim Roth was in around that time for TV was 'Meantime' ( ua-cam.com/video/UXN2v5pkNWw/v-deo.html ). It also stars performances from Gary Oldman, Alfred Molina and Phil Daniels. That one was directed by Mike Leigh. Him and Alan Clarke both great directors, who really brought some tremendous performance out of the people they worked with. Their modern day equivalent would be someone like Shane Meadows. (Check out 'Dead Man's Shoes' by him, a favourite of mine.)
@@kathall6422 ...Absolutely right.
We were friends and colleagues. One day he arrived at work with no hair and tattoos, then left to do this film. I met him a few years later at a reunion, by then he was Hollywood famous but still had time for a chat. Lovely talented man.
Tim Roth?
no the guy in the background who doesnt say anything for an hour
How long did he stay in the office with a swastica in the middle of his forehead?
@@MrOnionsFn. JOE Biden?
Oh I nearly wet myself then lol@MrOnionsFn.
This film is a masterclass in acting. All the performances are exceptionally believable, almost like watching a documentary.
Now they’re tar brush of ‘right wing’ stretches to having questions about arrivals.
This country is being crushed.
@@jamessones4044only by the Nazi Tory party and the effing brexit loons
True. .. and to all brainwashed by media ppl: this isn't about the pigmentation of one's skin (skinhead's bff was black btw) it about - CULTURE SHOCK
example: you hate sci Fi movies, then all the sudden, there's predominantly Sci-Fi movies on TV and streaming!
Do you hate with all your heart sci-fi movies..... No of course not, you just want things the way they were men's and expected to be within reason along with progression and giving allowances to others as you would want as a guest and somebody else's nation/country/culture, yeah?
If I were working in india, and all of a sudden the country was hammering down on Americans or white people or orange people with purple polka dots,
Love Tim Roth. He was good out of the gate..
Romper Stomper is better
Young Trevor does have a point. You get rewarded for toeing the line, saying what they, whoever they actually are, want you to say, and not rocking the boat. So much of our society IS, even forty years later, total bollocks. The trick is to realise that, and finding a way to live, without fucking yourself up.
I'm a Canadian and I agree with you.
It shows that those in government want slaves that obey without question instead of those that speaks out against the evil's done by those Hosers in government who need to take off eh!
@FelixstoweFoamForge Trevor does NOT have a point! Toeing the line is preferable to a cell, which is where he ends up...rightly so.
its even worse now, that was when society was much better
So true. I got as far as attendance centre like Trevor but luckily no further.
"whoever they actually are" Yeah, who "they" are is becoming more and more undeniable at the moment, and It's a glorious thing.
The superintendent's blackboard writings at 21:31 detailing the school-to-prison pipeline are still relevant, although some of the terms are different from where I went to school in the US. Never heard it explained so eloquently.
Absolutely 💯 should be used to this day!
cos yanks dont speak eloquently like eejits like me
Plus you'd get chalk, or blackboard eraser chucked at your head, or caned,
When this came out, I was a kid in a special unit. Now I'm an adult working in one. They've got it spot on and I'm sorry to say nothing's changed.
Are you a bully ?
It has we all no now its all bullshit
sorry the system Labour cons its all fucking shit
That scene with the black board is amazing.
You took the words out of my mind.....really great scene.
yep.
Its incredible, gave me hope he might actually change!
me too - he had the best handwriting I have ever seen on a backboard.
To do it in such long takes that well, was very impressive
Remember this Classic when it first came out. Tim Roth is a brilliant actor 👍👍👍👍
Legendary style of filming,
Raw,hard and like it was.
@@jamessones4044i think the film works because it isnt really about racism or neo nazism in britain per se. Trevor is just an extremely violent tempered troubled angry lost youth looking for trouble wherever he can, and the far right is likely a desire for some sense of belonging. He befriends a black kid, and largely seems to hate everyone
He was brilliant in "Rillington place" based on true story about serial killer John Christie,the 3 part drama was a remake of the 1971 film "10 Rillington place" which starred Richard Attenborough.
The blackboard scene changed my life. The superintendent character was well written and even better acted. Great movies are always relevant to society.
All it did was make me laugh when he drew the circle around "job" "dole" "thieving" and "prison"
Tim Roth was compelling but that blackboard scene had me transfixed. Superb performance.
Skinny man sample.. council estate of mind
Acted by the late great Geoffrey Hutchings playing the superintendent.
Best scene of the film.
This, Kes and Scum. All superb and really hit the nail on the head
All great films .
Kes was exactly what our school was like.
wow these THREE are right up their with the best well said sir!
Quadrophenia (1979) Babylon (1980)
I like "Tarka the Otter".
I saw this when I was 18. Its as hard hitting now, as is was then. Maybe even more so. A classic film.
Early 80s Britain captured very well here , we used Sunblest bread bags for our Evo stick . …
We sure did, the little tins of Evo Stick the best glue. 😂🤣
😂 In my mid 50s now and a couple of months ago I bought some evo stick to glue some wood boards together.
As soon as I opened the tin the early 80s came flooding back. Good job the missus was in the house otherwise the gluing project would have been abandoned and the white bread 🍞 would have been given to the 🐦 so I could use the bag 😃
I didn’t even know that evo stick was supposed to be used for wood 🪵 glue until I bought it from wilko 🤣😂🤣
@@ianwhitehead691i remember them Dayz, evo-stick, puncture outfit glue, spray cansLol.... Madness, the specials, crombies, loafers, Harrington jackets.....in 82 i wos 16....... Great days!!!
I was too wee in 82 to experience the joys of evo-stick but mum will always remember me enjoying the whiff of ⭐⭐⭐⭐ whilst she filled up her Mini Mayfair. I always made sure to help out at the pump!
lost my viginity to a glue sniffing girl at a bus stop
The scene with the guy and the blackboard is one of the best in the history of British TV. Utterly compelling writing and acting.
Brilliant movie. Fantastic acting. No happy endings. Great soundtrack.
Finally.... a HD version of this classic! Thank you!
lol it's not HD, it's actually pretty poor quality. Look at the state of the blackboard scene.
@@craigix It's still a lot better than the older / copied uploads on here.
4K no doubt they’ll bugger up the colour
It's amazing to see Tim Roth so young and delivering such a powerful performance. And I really think that this plot can transcend ANY culture, time and place 👍
First time viewing this - wow what a hidden gem, Tim Roth killed it. This all felt so real, if I'd been a young kid viewing this at the time I would have been scared straight. Bravo to everyone associated with the film.
we was!
This was life in 80s England, you picked your tribe, Skin, Mod, Punk, whatever, and it was a tough time. Thatcherism, job centres.
A masterpiece ...Tim Roth should have got every award going for this.
And the guy from the Bill is in it!!!
@@465markoBob Cryer innit... Firm, but fair....
What a absolutely quality film!!!
actors,story line,British life ……
“UK ‘82” by The Exploited was just sheer genius for that opening scene….🇬🇧🤛
Fuck yeah banger of a tune.
@@allanmacmillan7287yeah mate gotta be their best one...fuck the usa, daily news,germs..what a piece of wax.
Sorry Steve but it wasn't a master piece in music as the film is about a racist skinhead and the Exploited are punk. i know why don't we do a movie about jazz but in the background play hip-hop..get what i'm saying my friend? and as an ex-skin i'm sick to the fcuking teeth of these types of movie..Made in Britain, Romper Stomper, American X, This is England.. ALWAYS portraying the skinhead as a nazi..bit difficult when the original skinhead music was JAMAICAN SKA.
Damn right.
@@KerrMarrin-vn1kv, TBh, I think the choice of the Exploited was more about just how bloody furious we all were back then, no matter if we were punks, skins or whatever. Personally speaking, I spent the '80s in a state of near constant hopeless rage. BUT, to return to your point, I knew a few Skins, and the "racist" tag certainly didn't apply to them.
I love that, after all the mayhem and anarchy, he still used his indicator to turn right on an empty street at night. 😁
There’s anarchy and then there’s blatant disregard for anything and everything
40 years on, this movie still looks and feels fresh. Truly a film that has withstood the test of time.
Merci, je n'avais pas vu ce film depuis longtemps 👍🙏Tim Roth est magistral!!
The dialog is absolutely brilliant 👏
Tim Roth is playing a totally unpleasant character with no redeeming qualities and still manages to make him somewhat likeable. Absolutely superb performance.
Trevor has tons of redeeming qualities. He's just too irrationally angry and that's tragic. Testosterone kills many many people. Guy like trevor needs an easy job with a cool mentor. Great mechanic there. He needs to know that life isn't hell. Life is hell at this point.
There's a name for that:
"Antihero."
Tony Soprano, Tony Montana,
The Joker, Hannibal Lecter, (etc.)
Murdering psychopaths, adulterers,
violent criminals who SOMEHOW manage to endear themselves to the audience through sheer character.
@@NormAppleton No. Trevor has few, if any, redeeming qualities about him and it has nothing to do with testosterone, because there are women who can be just as sick and mentally twisted as Trevor becomes. Trevor is an example when a bright minded person with no guidance because of a broken system acts out when they feel they have nothing to lose. Trevor is a deplorable, hateful, racist skinhead who unfortunately, because his intelligence, tricks himself into believing 80s British National Front propaganda and becomes a street thug with a vile cause. The saddest thing is that Trevor is told what will happen to him if he doesn't bother to change his behavior and is given an option out. What does he do? He decides to piss it all away by embracing his fate with open arms and take someone else down with him in the process. Rather than using his intelligence to right himself, he neglects it so he can continue to screw up until his fate is in the hands of the police. Not juvenile reform centers.
That's his specialty I think. He's a better villain than hero. I LOVED him in Lie to Me.
I hated him throughout the film. He was a racist smart arse, who did nothing but bad for himself. But I strangely wanted him to redeem himself, you know ? After a while, like the few characters that saw hope in him changing his ways, I gave up. When someone has their mind convinced like that, there's nothing u can do. Great film, I loved it
Last time I saw this was in the 80's. All the kids were talking about it at my school as it was well publicised. I always remember our teacher saying 'not all watching that are you'!? 'You shouldn't be.'
Ha, we actually watched it at school in the 5th form!!
Same! First time watching in 40 years! It's brilliant.
England RIP
a truly great film, very much 'of the era' - gritty British realism, Alan Clarke the innovative director & Tim Roth is magnificent as the archetypal skinhead.... love it!
Trevor should be careful! Barry once bummed an inmate in a greenhouse when he was in borstal 😂😂
I knew I'd seen him somewhere else. He seems to look much older than he was in Scum, but then Clarke always used a lot of the same actors in his films. Different rapists in the original 1977 Scum though.
😂😂
I’m not the only one who remembers him shooting his load into Davis in the greenhouse then 😂😂
That scene and then the suicide after where some grim powerful stuff...
I remember watching it as a kid and being pretty traumatized by that one... Films are too polished to be believable and real nowadays compared to these gritty scenes and acting
That actor had a very small role in Grange Hill too.
Still got the original recording off the box. Tim's acting is brilliant, the nuances and micro signals he gives off - superb. The rest of the cast too give brilliant performances, some of whom appear in later films/programs. edit- Thanks for the upload, was good to watch an up mastered version, but can't speak about the ads...originally they were strategically placed and only 2 add breaks at that, here they punctuated Trevor's amazing diatribe....pound notes! 😆
I've noticed Tim giving off a lot of micro aggressions in this.
I used to knock around with skinheads like that when I was a kid and he’s got the character down to a T . Great acting all round .
If the premise of this film was anything less than outrageous in 1982, I wonder how many more young 'Trevors' there are in Britain today that find this character relatable?
More so when you've given up your capital city.
Controlled immigration is great for any strong society we have just had so much it's damaged our culture and society irreparably forever. There in no fixing it, it will only ever get worse
they all feel cheated, really you fall into this behavior out of protection for yourself they are not to be blamed
@@wilihey1425They don't feel cheated, they ARE cheated.
Let’s not forget the Errols too. Whilst someone would like to widen the divide between Trevors and Errols, there’s one thing that remains objectively true: they have more in common on the basis of class than they have differences.
G'day to you! Thanks for this ,wanting to see it for years, Tim Roth is brilliant, when I wore the Boots n Braces back in the early 70s we had no Racial Crap here, we had all folk with us from Italy ,Slavs , German even a Aboriginal Guy who had been living in Glasgow and came back to Oz!
Can't believe this is my first time watching this!! Mad film good acting
Classic movie it captured the Thatcher years just right and it still stands the test of time 🕰️
You mean the good old days 🤣
@@jedfra9172 Fuck, NO.
What a powerhouse performance from Tim Roth. Incredible.
Tim Roth als Trevor einer seiner besten Filme wie ich finde..
Ich liebe den Film.
Truly made of its time, wouldn’t leave the writer’s room today; so different the world.
That's why movies are terrible now.
£23:50 per week, my first wage working as a trainee provisions hand for 6 months just around the corner from where I live. Good memories - shit government, even shittier now.
Isn't it? Bugger all has changed.
Well I got £25:00 per week as an apprentice in 1992 so taking into account inflation that supermarket job advertised at the job centre was a good wage in 1982 compared to what I was on a decade later.
I was one of the lucky ones - I started work in 1985 on the vast wage of £26. 25 a week!
@@paulwilliams8389 My first Dole check back then was the grand sum of £17 per week. Enough to buy about 20 pints. Today, that would have to be about £100.
By 1982 i was on about £35 per week as draughtsman in a forge.
18 minutes in and already for me this is a classic! Bloody beautiful.
Absolute Gem and Tim Roth is the 🐐
This was me and my mates we left school to join the dole queue in 1982 but I'll tell you something our community spirit was fantastic
@@netcurtains think you must of lived in a parallel universe to the one I lived in .
@@chidizzy6633A parallel universe where people used have instead of of?
@@mrfister1899 neo-nazis and gramma-nazis.. comment section never fails to deliver :P
I was a punk for many years in the 80s. There were plenty of skinheads in our group and at least one basically modelled himself on this character,even down to the walk. He wasn't quite as aggressive as Trevor but there was plenty of vicious people around who came from literally nothing and were happy to embrace the look,music and politics of being a skinhead.
Great movie. Tim Roth the perfect lead roll. Hopefully it’s uncut. I’ve just started watching it as I type this comment. If I don’t edit it, it means the movie is unedited and as good as I remember watching it from the first time I’d seen it. 😎
I don't know if I would trust myself that much to not fall asleep or get distracted and forget to update a comment hahaha
42 years ago, I remember watching this when it first aired all those years ago. Tim Roth was brilliant, what a performance! The character Trevor was slowly but surely going down the toilet, in real life he'd be dead by now.
And if he not, he'd be watching everything he prophecised cone true.
@@realMaverickBuckley So predictable that there would be dipshit muppets like you unable to think for yourselves repeating the bs you have picked up from the powers that control you. Pathetic.
Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor what he was doing 12 years later living in America trying to be a modrnday Bnnie and Clyde.
Most of my then Skinhead mates are dead I went to the army before I got a criminal record good mates good hard days !!!!
@@jedfra9172 I'd wager there's a hilarious amount of irony in your reply.
Never seen this before, Tim Roth should have an Oscar
One of my first films we tim roth what a guy x
He steals the show in this and rob Roy yet is strangely underrated
Me neither. Just watching it now. Proper British film.
Great Tim Roth, what a good start he had in this one, been in some great films since and this was totally different. Loved him in Rob Roy with Liam Neeson.
I think that not long after making this film, Tim Roth starred with John Hurt in The Hit..
@@pashvonderc381 Thanks, I will keep a look out for that one, John Hurt was a great actor.
@@derekstocker6661 true he was, the film ain’t too bad either, filmed in Spain I think it was.
@@pashvonderc381 John Hurt was in Rob Roy too. Arguably, Tim Roth played the same character (Trevor) in that film too. Once the wig came off.
Quentin Tarantino did crossovers,Ringo should have been Trevor,what he did 12 years later living in America trying to be a modernday Bonbnie and Clyde.
"Erroll, shit on his . . . "
Classic!
Being a 54 yr old and being in the care system from 1982-1986 Ivan relate to most of this…..I’ve seen every sort of broken children you can think of…I was there for truancy and bad behaviour etc I comcider myself to lame not my mum..,I saw things that I shouldn’t of for a young child but I k ow my life was easy compare to some of the kids in there…..horror stories don’t come close
Yea how treated then boys was bad many old glue sniffer went to Speed and then Heroin
I hope you're happy and doing well now though pal.
I was part of hat back in the early 80s.
The Exploited still going strong UK82.
My first time seeing this, thank you.
Golden lost film moments, thanks for the upload. ♥
What everyone else said, "brilliant." Thank you.
Give me this UK everyday of the week and twice on a Sunday.
What a genious acting of Tim Roth, i'm impressed !!! I'm Spanish and i love British B movies, always excellent scripts.
Check out Down Terrace
25:49 the look on Trevor's face when the Superintendant talked about a list of insane felonies was legendary....excellent acting from Roth, himself 😂😂
21:30 - What a performance... Magnificent acting in that scene...
Geoffrey Hutchings, good actor
Sticks in my mind so much. I went through similar at that age. The acting is so amazing, I've rewatched it so many times.
Roth plays it so well too, the superintendents actually getting thru to him and then he leaves the room, and immediately Trevor goes on the offensive against the other authority figures (all first names with you lot) the way you can see the gears turning in Trevor’s head when he’s about to go from an implicit mention of racism to a full blown rant. Really fucking powerful scene
There are some huge chunks of dialogue superbly delivered.
When a movie starts with Exploited you know you're in for a good time/ride!
Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors
The Exploited ❤❤❤ UK'82! Punx Not Dead!
Tim Roth is so underrated reservoir dogs he was amazing
Reservoir dogs sucked arse.
Still hate him for Rob Roy. Hah
I was 10 when this came out,, and Trevor scared the life out of me,, looking at this now, Trevor looks like a kid, i remember the skinheads in Cardiff, around that time, lots of glue bags about.
Imagine what Trevor would have done to Roland if he'd been cast in Grange Hill .. and we thought Gripper was a nutter lol
Oi Oi Oi Punk 'N' Skins 🧷✊🏻
If anything takes me back to the 80s it's seeing discarded glue bags everywhere, nowadays they seem to have gone the way of white dog shit nowhere to be seen
@@iangoldie6396 Yeah the bags can still be found round our way but they're attached to half plastic pop bottles with skunk residue stains.. But its weird that you mentioned about the white dogs eggs that were laid everywhere during the 80s.. I think the petfood companies added a lot more bonemeal to the tinned food because thats what causes that phenomena .. I only just found out a couple of years ago after feeding my dog on loads of bones and his cacka was like sandstone lol !
@@Zionist-Occupied-GovernmentHow do you explain the fur lining? 🤔
I watched this on its release. And was blown away by Tim Roths' performance. He left for Hollywood.
Excellent movie
I remember it from back in day.
I was 16 when this came out one of the best years of my life ,
Back in the day when the job center didn’t require what they do now.
my brother 14 ,
He was a skinhead himself.
One of my favorite movies
Tim Roth is an awesome actor
Yep, you could stay on the Dole forever back then. My Uncle had the mortgage on his house paid for while on the dole after being made redundant in the 80's -he decided never to work again.....Can you imagine that happening today?
@idaclement2994 it wouldn't happen those days were so.much better
Best UA-cam channel, subscribed and traveled back in time.
Eric Richard is also underrated in this seminal classic. I remember when this was first screened on television. It blew me away.. Alan Clarke was never one to pull any punches in whatever he was portraying
Wasn't he responsible for Scum in 1979?
@@Marvin-dg8vj yes absolutely. He made scum for BBC television it got banned.. So he then made the feature film. Both are brutal portrayals of life in the big house. He also made the other classic the firm.. starring Gary Oldman as a football hooligan.. Alan Clarke was first class
This film had such an impact on me as a kid. I still use some of the dialogue in my everyday speech (and I didnt realise that till I saw the movie again recently). "Shut it.....and keep it shut" (Pc Hanson) lol
Thanks so much for posting
The best part was seeing Bob Cryer.
Was hoping the plods were going to be Jim Carver and Reg Hollis
@@the_tersorium I thought that copper in the police cell at the end, with the truncheon and the obey authority speech, was completely real. Reminds me of so many coppers around during that period.
Sham 69/4-Skins/Red Alert/Blitz/Cockney Rejects/Gary and the Gonads/The Business/Skrewdriver.....and how many other bands made the late 70s early 80s exciting?
What a glorious time to be alive 😊 and to be a part of it.
cock sparrer, peter and the test tube babies, blitz, gbh, discharge, the exploited, chaos uk, the last resort, all great bands you mentioned btw!
@@pipebombmailer22 1975 to 1985 was the greatest musical revolution in my opinion. And let us not forget about all of the Great American bands: heart attack, battalion of saints, the germs, black flag, iron cross, ODFX, Jodie Foster's army, mdc, ssd, minor threat, bad brains, the neos, red cross, youth brigade, and how many others? Thank goodness for maximum rock and roll fanzine for tying all of those scenes together
@@danielorlando8172 man, those are some fucking great bands, usually when i talk to people about old school punk rock i name the main ones that people know about, respect for knowing heart attack and battalion of saints and jfa etc.
@@pipebombmailer22 the first show I went to was in October 1981 to see the bad Brains in New York City. In January 1982 I got to see heart attack at The peppermint lounge on Broadway. The Ukraine Hall on 2nd avenue hosted a lot of hardcore shows. Gbh, the exploited, gosh I can't even remember half the shows I went to, and that is not counting cbgb's matinees. The subhumans, kraut, the psychos, agnostic front, Murphy's law, nausea, but I could never bring myself to go to a GG allin show. The thought of being hit with human excrement was kind of a turn-off.
@@danielorlando8172 fuck yeh bro, all great bands, im seeing gbh live tommorow with a few other bands. i couldnt see most of these in their prime cus i was born in 2010 but fuck it 😂😂
Brilliant film reminds me of my younger self
Blimely, that was gritty and visceral
Time Roth is a classic actor,this film is one of my faves of all time along with "the frim"with gary Oldman not Tom Cruise and also have also look at the film "meantime"which also stars tim Roth,Gary Oldman and Phil Daniels.
Meantime is a brilliant piece of work. Superb performance by Tim Roth. 👍👍
I like The Firm. Especially 'Star Trekkin across the universe.'
Gary Oldman’s skinhead in meantime is priceless!
Meantime is one my favourite ever films 😊
And Gary Oldman in "Sid and Nancy".
This is a classic I've watched this no end of times
First time watching this film, and it's incredible. I was born nearly 10 years after this film was released.
That social worker Harry was a copper on The Bill lol I used to love that show 😂
Bob cryer
27:19 Mel from benidorm
@@hermanthetosser4219well spotted
One hell of a honker on him,couldn't miss that,decent actor,Sgt Bob Cryer
Yep sod sharing a line with him 🤣
He nailed that Hate-you-all glare. Brilliant.
The moment that the truncheon is brought down on his leg near the end, and his face contorts into an expression of hurt and dismay, only to transform at length back into Trevor's accustomed cocky grin, is acting of the highest calibre.
and badass too
This movie pretty good and underrated
That took me back can remember watching it on telly years ago.
Wast it a shorter version on tv ….one of the play for today series I think
It was made for TV, like almost all of Alan Clarke's features. As far as I can tell, this is the full film.
Superb acting by all concerned!
Just watched his film Now way home and immediately thought of this beauty..It was the talk of the school for months when it first aired on tv in the 80s..The man’s a class act..👍
The way he paces from room to room, very atmospheric.
Looking for Cherry Docs and this was suggested , what a surprise. Incredible that this is 82…
An excelent gritty drama, In 60 odd years I don't know how I managed to miss this.Very similar to the hard hitting drama/film "scum" 10/10
Both these films you mention are now Legendary!
I dont know which film sucks more
scum its so horrific what happened to those lads ...
i was at fairhome camborne assesment centre i was only 6 ,i was a bit disruptive then later i turned 7 and stayed at chelfam mill barnstabe till end of 1978 i was about 10, as i grow up i asked why i went there they told me because of my fathers drug use i said why didnt my sisters go into care i went to many schools but i turned out ok but it made my shy till my 30s i always got a stigma about disliking the middleclasses because how they treated me now days not too bad but i can tell a snob without they live glasses
I feel for you bro that must be tough.
tough go, mate. Did you reunite with your sisters?
yes
@@DoJ79
I went to Chelfham mill school from 75/76 , was confused as to why i went there as only 9yrs old , viaduct was where i used to spend most of the day if not wandering the countryside . Brings back a lot of memories .
@@bazcarlton9117 I must of seen you there I was there 1975 to 1978
Tim Roth is still my favourite actor because of this film
Great Tim Roth and the clockwork orange quotes are very good!!!
40 years later, and everything Trevor prophesised has come to fruition.
🤣
Your not wrong there mate
Imagine if it was possible 2bring back some of the dead, give then a look around.
Think you’ve taken the wrong idea from this
No it hasn't. You're like him if you think like this.
'Made In Britain' walked so that 'American History X' could run
Indeed.
Funny enough. Both of them started an epic fight back in 2008
And Romper Stomper could sprint!
@@simonchiu7845 watched all 3 back to back.
More like Made In Britain ran so American History X could curl up in a fetal position and suck its thumb.
I love this film pure class right out of the thatcher era .. have it on dvd ..
I was 15 when this was released. Great movie.
Quality stuff, glad to get seeing it.
Incredible acting
Seriously underrated masterpiece.
Great film.. with the camera operator following the subjects around it's like a documentary that went south.
40 years on not a lot has changed. Disaffected youth is still disaffected youth, and the dissafected youth of forty years back are now cursing their juniors who are just the same as they were.
Oi! I'm one of the disaffected youth from the 80's, and the only people I'm cursing are the same old political fuck ups who keep on making the same old sodding mistakes. We didn't all grow old and start wearing cardigans! 😛
Same from 8os too@@FelixstoweFoamForge
not cursing them at all
although i wasn´t quite the generation anyhow
Great movies eh chaps I wasn’t born until 3 years after this was made and I’m very upset I haven’t heard of it sooner😢😢😢😊
Brilliant! Early Tim Roth