Metal Gear Solid 4 - Snake Meets Big Boss (Final Scene of Franchise)

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  • Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of The Patriots Solid snake Meets Big Boss, his father.
    Death scene of Big Boss & Major Zero included.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 8 тис.

  • @justanuser9503
    @justanuser9503 5 років тому +17401

    "Dont waste the life you have left fighting"
    *joins smash bros*

    • @thecoolcario9048
      @thecoolcario9048 5 років тому +996

      And gets aged back to his younger msg2 self again

    • @Jnrisdead
      @Jnrisdead 5 років тому +205

      No I didn't.

    • @thecoolcario9048
      @thecoolcario9048 4 роки тому +201

      @@Jnrisdead you're right, you renamed yourself Jeremiah and became an old man with pinecone beard dreads in The Long Dark (great game btw, Jeremiah is also voiced by David Hater)

    • @liamgoshdanglewis873
      @liamgoshdanglewis873 4 роки тому +47

      The Cool Cario And looks like his father as he appeared in MGS3.

    • @Jnrisdead
      @Jnrisdead 4 роки тому +15

      @@StopBlurryGames Stop impersonating him

  • @SudsyMedusa53
    @SudsyMedusa53 2 роки тому +10244

    I love the fact that when playing the games in chronological order, you go almost directly from this scene to Raiden suplexing a metal gear ray with rules of nature blasting in the background

    • @thewizard1
      @thewizard1 2 роки тому +440

      Good

    • @NebulaTheOfficial
      @NebulaTheOfficial 2 роки тому +936

      AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP

    • @ROBOHOLIC1
      @ROBOHOLIC1 2 роки тому +546

      @@NebulaTheOfficial WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE

    • @Xxandrew01
      @Xxandrew01 2 роки тому +298

      @@NebulaTheOfficial FOR A WHILE

    • @Rinzler3757
      @Rinzler3757 2 роки тому +147

      Wouldn't have it any other way.

  • @orcastrike7750
    @orcastrike7750 2 роки тому +8414

    I still love that despite the fact Big Boss is dying, he still has the energy to give Snake an entire ass video essay explaining everything in Metal Gear.

    • @thetrophygamer3606
      @thetrophygamer3606 2 роки тому +723

      Death waits patiently for him. Big boss decides when he goes.

    • @buddho1135
      @buddho1135 2 роки тому +550

      big boss even kept death waiting

    • @niko2248
      @niko2248 2 роки тому +336

      Guess you could say he left death stranding eh?........
      Bye

    • @orcastrike7750
      @orcastrike7750 2 роки тому +99

      @@niko2248 leave

    • @efim_061
      @efim_061 2 роки тому +107

      @@buddho1135 kept you waiting huh?

  • @XMrChicagoX
    @XMrChicagoX 2 роки тому +2324

    That CQC hug. Who knew CQC stands for Close Quarters Comfort

  • @itzjdude616
    @itzjdude616 5 років тому +16934

    Imagine seeing two old men cut another old man's life support in a random cemetery, then seeing one sit down and die.

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 5 років тому +2522

      Nah, seeing two old men on top of a giant ship beating crap out of each other is much cooler

    • @cooperchance7720
      @cooperchance7720 5 років тому +986

      How about a cyborg stopping one of the old men from crushing the other old men with an Island by holding it back with one arm?

    • @kwarlus
      @kwarlus 5 років тому +363

      How bout an old man saluting to a grave to be taken up by the chopper

    • @brian_b_music
      @brian_b_music 5 років тому +361

      Or how about finding out one of those old men isn't really an old man, because....foxdie😂😂

    • @kwarlus
      @kwarlus 5 років тому +250

      Or finding out they're actually Solid Snake and Big Boss

  • @mtnd02.06
    @mtnd02.06 4 роки тому +6304

    Metal Gear, the game where the main character is *never* the main character, throughout the entire series.

    • @Rayan.Tactical7
      @Rayan.Tactical7 4 роки тому +258

      @bobby myers because

    • @mikejohn29mj
      @mikejohn29mj 4 роки тому +268

      Just like Legend of Zelda where Link is the main character.

    • @alessandrolucariello8529
      @alessandrolucariello8529 4 роки тому +162

      @@mikejohn29mj no it's Zelda because it's the legend of Zelda

    • @alexwest2280
      @alexwest2280 4 роки тому +66

      This story is so confusing

    • @Rayan.Tactical7
      @Rayan.Tactical7 4 роки тому +83

      @@alexwest2280 try watching The Metal Gear timeline you'll understand everythin'

  • @Shadowdragon_TV
    @Shadowdragon_TV 5 років тому +6059

    "Let it go, my son.."
    I don't think there ever was a time when he called any of them his "son". Damn

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 5 років тому +459

      There's MGS V where he had dialogue with Ocelot:
      -About 72 project
      -Les Enfants Terribles...Terible Children
      -That madness Zero started, your sons.
      -They aren't sons of mine. What they are is much sicker than that.
      But MGS 4 was first

    • @epiqboy
      @epiqboy 5 років тому +378

      @@NiCoNiCoNiCola exactly. In V he denied them being his sons. But in 4 he acknowledged solid as his son.

    • @onewingedlink6605
      @onewingedlink6605 5 років тому +183

      @@epiqboy But they literally weren't V's sons lol

    • @epiqboy
      @epiqboy 5 років тому +83

      @@onewingedlink6605 could've sworn that tape was with the real BB unlocked after the truth ending?

    • @Reptilienski
      @Reptilienski 5 років тому +219

      he only called Soild son cuz Soild is the only Snake who fight against his fate and success, others like he mentioned are just tools though they had the chance to fight against the fate.

  • @alix.144
    @alix.144 2 роки тому +4081

    That was the most tactical hug I’ve ever seen

  • @christian171
    @christian171 4 роки тому +9154

    its hilarious that after decades of training, snake still gets his shit kicked in by the one technique he refused to learn, from the one guy who knows it.

    • @500offical
      @500offical 3 роки тому +353

      You deserve a like for this.

    • @Midnight_x_Sin
      @Midnight_x_Sin 3 роки тому +654

      🤔 wasn’t an ass kicking, he could have easily messed him up. And David does know cqc, he just doesn’t like using it

    • @WattsUpTez10mm
      @WattsUpTez10mm 3 роки тому +271

      The say way the Boss kicked big boss ass

    • @Random__Dude.
      @Random__Dude. 3 роки тому +54

      @@WattsUpTez10mm same*

    • @louisporter6030
      @louisporter6030 3 роки тому +377

      Dude solid literally uses CQC in this very game

  • @thefalsekingslayer3717
    @thefalsekingslayer3717 5 років тому +15083

    Watch the japanese version too, the actors are actual father and son who had not been on speaking terms for years until that day

    • @Ro-fw3lc
      @Ro-fw3lc 5 років тому +3299

      Nothing better than authenticity to further enhance the meaning and emotions in the scene.

    • @m.a.k.dynasty4504
      @m.a.k.dynasty4504 5 років тому +1764

      @@dietmard.dittelsen6364 Got anything to prove that it isn't true, smart guy?

    • @dietmard.dittelsen6364
      @dietmard.dittelsen6364 5 років тому +569

      @@m.a.k.dynasty4504 got anything to prove that it is true, einstein?

    • @m.a.k.dynasty4504
      @m.a.k.dynasty4504 5 років тому +2747

      @@dietmard.dittelsen6364 Akio Ōtsuka, the son of Chikao Ōtsuka (Who is a veteran voice actor by the way.), provided the voice for Solid Snake in the Japanese dub for years now, and provided the motion capture for Big Boss while his father voiced over. The father was called into this project to ease the friction between the two family members.
      Learn your facts before you call somebody an idiot for things that you clearly know nothing about sh*t for brains.

    • @Deadsphere
      @Deadsphere 5 років тому +813

      @@dietmard.dittelsen6364 Holy _FUCKING_ shit you're ignorant. You're one to argue that it's not true, where's your proof to disprove his -true- claim?

  • @entropy7705
    @entropy7705 3 роки тому +7734

    Imagine meeting your son whose only half your age but physically in worse conditions.

    • @jackreavergaming0115
      @jackreavergaming0115 3 роки тому +626

      Don't have to. Lol. This is an accurate statement between me and my father.

    • @YaYAbIsCiT
      @YaYAbIsCiT 3 роки тому +296

      Snake is a clone of big boss, he just calls him son to be dramatic

    • @entropy7705
      @entropy7705 3 роки тому +676

      @@YaYAbIsCiT Uh...? You are aware of how the cloning process went, right?

    • @YaYAbIsCiT
      @YaYAbIsCiT 3 роки тому +50

      @@entropy7705 I am aware but that still doesn't make him his son.

    • @entropy7705
      @entropy7705 3 роки тому +532

      @@YaYAbIsCiT Genetically speaking he is even if he's considered a "clone". There's still recessive and dominant genes that have taken place regarding the three Snakes.

  • @JaggedBird
    @JaggedBird 2 роки тому +3811

    "That new world is yours to live in. Not as a snake... but, as a man."
    That's a powerful quote right there

    • @luisa.3318
      @luisa.3318 2 роки тому +116

      In a sense it feels as talking to us gamers, who have been playing the metal gear series as "snakes", and given the closeness to the end of metal gear series, we won't be able to be "snakes" anymore and live on as men ;c

    • @ThatD1spynser
      @ThatD1spynser 2 роки тому +64

      "Don't waste the life you have left fighting"

    • @Zekor4
      @Zekor4 Рік тому

      But doesn't he kill himself afterwards?

    • @chrish5549
      @chrish5549 Рік тому +5

      "This is good, isnt it'

    • @BIGD-cc7ru
      @BIGD-cc7ru Рік тому

      @Swamp Expert Extraordinaire that’s sweet

  • @shiramasa7514
    @shiramasa7514 5 років тому +6842

    When your father comes back and brought cigarettes

  • @Zargex
    @Zargex 5 років тому +8085

    cqc hug

  • @baconlover7747
    @baconlover7747 3 роки тому +4726

    My man big boss was so lowkey he snuck up on snake with a man on life support in tow 😭

    • @VegetaLF7
      @VegetaLF7 3 роки тому +457

      The true stealth master

    • @Tacibell
      @Tacibell 3 роки тому +138

      Fucking love this comment lol

    • @dunbass7149
      @dunbass7149 3 роки тому +218

      In his late 70’s

    • @baconlover7747
      @baconlover7747 3 роки тому +261

      @@dunbass7149 wearing fucking dress shoes too now that i think about it

    • @mfkrmaggot2755
      @mfkrmaggot2755 3 роки тому +9

      nice profile pic

  • @nedsnow4179
    @nedsnow4179 Рік тому +4303

    For those who dont get, this is all the snakes:
    Naked Snake/Big Boss - He is the the one with the eye patch in this video. He is the main protagonist of MGS3, MGSPW, MGSGZ, and the villain of MG2. He is the legendary soldier, he is basically the captain of america of MG universe. Everyone love him and idolize him.
    Solid Snake - He is the protagonist of MG1, MG2, MGS1, MGS4, and he is one of the protagonist in MGS2.
    The first time they cloned Big Boss, twins were born, one of them is Solid Snake. He is 40 years old in this video, he looks old because his body entered a state of accelerated aging due to intentional genetic changes made during the cloning process. They fear that the clones maybe one day betray the USA, so they make this as security measure. Solid has less than half a year of life after this scene.
    Liquid Snake - he is the main villain in MGS1. Twin brother of Solid. He is Eli in MGS5. He died in MGS1.
    Solidus Snake - he was the third clone made, but from a differenty mother. He is the main villain in MGS2. The Patriots made Solidus as the perfect clone. He is the youngest of the clones, but he look just like Big boss from this video. The Patriot make him like this so the common people would like him, because he look just like Big Boss. He was the President of the USA in the events of MGS1. He died in the end of MGS2. The body that everyone believe that was Big boss in MGS4 act 3 is actually the body of Solidus.
    Venom Snake - He is the protagonist of MGS5. He was one of the best soldier from Big boss, and he was a medic. When the helicópter crash in the end of MGSGZ, they took him and zero planned and provided funds to have the medic molded into a mirror image of Big Boss, both mentally and physically. Induced hypnagogia imbued the medic with Big Boss' mind, and plastic surgery was enacted to give him Big Boss' face. When he awoke, the medic would believe he was Big Boss.
    He died in MG1 by the hands of Solid Snake.

    • @ren5689
      @ren5689 Рік тому +217

      bruh

    • @Nimtrix
      @Nimtrix Рік тому +180

      This is why I searched this in the first place, thanks!

    • @alejgar01
      @alejgar01 Рік тому +169

      That’s a lot of snakes haha thanks

    • @蛇王-y9b
      @蛇王-y9b Рік тому +42

      i doubted that venom snake is faked big boss , just look at the young ocelot LOL , or ocelot has a lot of clones as well ?

    • @soupkisser
      @soupkisser Рік тому +16

      legend, thanks bro

  • @joserdz6257
    @joserdz6257 4 роки тому +1820

    I think the best way to sum up MGS is with the saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 роки тому +45

      And the Patriots, Zero and SigInt and Paramedic and the rest, in particular.

    • @shadowthrunight5911
      @shadowthrunight5911 3 роки тому +65

      Nah, its basically this quote: "You mustn't allow yourself to be chained to fate, to be ruled by your genes. Human beings can choose the kind of life that they want to live. What's important is that you choose life... and then live." -Naomi Hunter

    • @damianwomack4668
      @damianwomack4668 3 роки тому +1

      So damn true. Also, 666 upvotes. Just sayin xD

    • @newdemo7165
      @newdemo7165 3 роки тому +20

      @@damianwomack4668 Go back to Reddit.

    • @tonystank3091
      @tonystank3091 3 роки тому

      "War... Is Hell!"
      -Ace Ventura

  • @Jack-xs2ki
    @Jack-xs2ki 3 роки тому +2623

    That little CQC to the hug was enough for me to know that really is the legendary big boss.

    • @SamGile
      @SamGile Рік тому +12

      Nah. He’s really Ocelot.

    • @user-pi1lb4tf2f
      @user-pi1lb4tf2f Рік тому +13

      ​@@SamGileCats do like to play Snakes

    • @R0binah00d
      @R0binah00d Рік тому +3

      Because of his limp wristed hand hanging style???

    • @qballfaw8861
      @qballfaw8861 11 місяців тому +2

      He got the jump on solid snake,
      He was better at cqc

    • @JR-yr6fq
      @JR-yr6fq 10 місяців тому

      ​@@qballfaw8861big boss is the best

  • @ashmitpattnayak8060
    @ashmitpattnayak8060 4 роки тому +6572

    When your dad goes out to get milk and actually comes back.

    • @butnobodycame7022
      @butnobodycame7022 3 роки тому +256

      without an eye and with another old guy that he was friend to him a long time ago , that liked James Bond

    • @capybara9521
      @capybara9521 3 роки тому +21

      Sad

    • @jamestomlin5525
      @jamestomlin5525 3 роки тому +59

      Yea, sixty years later

    • @uriahjones2350
      @uriahjones2350 3 роки тому +19

      Who are these two? I tought there is just one Solid Snake.

    • @butnobodycame7022
      @butnobodycame7022 3 роки тому +42

      @@uriahjones2350 Well one of them its his father that is a traitor to him kinda and the other one is Old Snake which is Solid Snake, but old

  • @pepsidude8919
    @pepsidude8919 2 роки тому +3196

    2:03
    Snake: "How can you still be alive?"
    Big Boss: "Nanomachines, son."

    • @matthewtambunan7827
      @matthewtambunan7827 2 роки тому +269

      THEY HARDEN IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA

    • @p_filippouz
      @p_filippouz 2 роки тому +190

      YOU CANT HURT ME, SNAKE

    • @joepurified9375
      @joepurified9375 2 роки тому +29

      Joe knew someone would do it

    • @kennethmanuel1094
      @kennethmanuel1094 2 роки тому +82

      *Raiden pops out of nowhere*
      *Standing here I realise starts to play*

    • @user-ny4jw6yq5l
      @user-ny4jw6yq5l 2 роки тому +39

      @@kennethmanuel1094 STANDING HERE, I REALIZE

  • @elliottguzmanurtes4208
    @elliottguzmanurtes4208 4 роки тому +3669

    What breaks my little heart is that Boss knows that Snake is a clone of him, but he still called him "son" ;^;

    • @ThatFoxxoLeo
      @ThatFoxxoLeo 4 роки тому +449

      What's even better is that in MGSV he refers to the clones from Les Enfants Terribles saying, "They're no sons of mine; they're much sicker than that". I think that really shows his progression from Naked Snake in Operation: Snake Eater, to Big Boss finding out about his sons cloned without consent, forming various Outer Heavens all in the name of the Boss' will, to Big Boss telling his only remaining clone to not make the same errors he made and live a life worth living, like a father to his son. It took him a while, but he learnt his lesson and passed it on to Solid, despite despising even the idea of his clones 30 years before.

    • @TheTrueAegonTargaryen
      @TheTrueAegonTargaryen 3 роки тому +51

      @@ThatFoxxoLeo did the real boss say that or was it venom snake?

    • @nomado.3855
      @nomado.3855 3 роки тому +30

      @@ThatFoxxoLeo Well, Big Boss had to reflect a lot of things after the PP incident.

    • @RickGrimes807
      @RickGrimes807 3 роки тому +112

      @@ThatFoxxoLeo you nailed it. It's so sad how it was only at the very end of their lives that Big Boss and Solid Snake could look each other in the eye and talk. And the evolution of BB's mind from hatred of the Les Enfants Terribles project to respecting and loving his last offspring. He truly could see in the end that Snake was not just a clone, he was his own person, and he accomplished great things, defeated him, and was overall a more decent human being than all the old guys combined. Big Boss's respect for his son was really heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time.

    • @microwave4928
      @microwave4928 3 роки тому +17

      @@TheTrueAegonTargaryen
      They’re both the real big boss
      Even big boss said so

  • @Wiseonebk
    @Wiseonebk 5 років тому +4067

    Big boss was so tough that a mutated foxdie didn't kill him instantly. He had time to make amends and even salute the boss.

    • @rabbitmane9265
      @rabbitmane9265 4 роки тому +328

      Not to mention tie up loose ends for 20 minutes

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 роки тому +557

      Seriously, the average person dies 2 minutes after being exposed. Ocelot lasted a 10 minute fight after exposure.
      Big Boss lasted 30 minutes and he had just awoken from a 15 year coma.

    • @mrshamaki
      @mrshamaki 4 роки тому +331

      @@yoursonisold8743 well big boss survived being near a nuclear-looking explosion in mgs 3 so of course a stupid disease will not instantly kill him. The man isn't called big boss by everyone for nothing.

    • @Kittonwy
      @Kittonwy 4 роки тому +137

      And then smoke a cigar

    • @thegamerzoildv2183
      @thegamerzoildv2183 4 роки тому +10

      Kittonwy not everyone dose that on over 30 minutes

  • @rudra7615
    @rudra7615 5 років тому +2861

    BOSS so manly, he does a hug via a CQC
    "Salute"..

    • @davmania5221
      @davmania5221 5 років тому +13

      Illegal CQC

    • @ma_na_gurab
      @ma_na_gurab 4 роки тому +14

      What about ocelote giving kiss to solid snake?

    • @logicmonkey1034
      @logicmonkey1034 4 роки тому +37

      Ocelot loved Big Boss. A love the is beyond the love for a rival, beyond a spouse, beyond a brother, beyond a father, beyond a son, Ocelot Loved his Willpower, his drive, his values, his role, his mission, His vision.. It is a a love beyond the flesh. A love not of a person but of principle. Ocelot loved Big Boss's very SPIRIT and how he fought to manifest it.. Big boss's vision was a direct representation of his soul, And in such.. Big Boss was Ocelots "soul mate". He saw that very spirit in Snake. Thus The kiss.
      That very kiss, is the expressed love one shows for not an individual, but a belief system. That kiss was a form of communal worship of the vision Big Boss had, and the spirit that manifested it. again.. seeing that spirit in Solid Snake.
      Ocelot Idolized Big Boss. That idol being the representation of the heaven they both sought.
      Thus Ocelot was always pulling the strings making sure Big Boss's way was clear to bring about their heaven.
      A Guardian angel of sorts.
      Imagine having to inherit the foul demon Liquid Snake that could only spit upon Big Bosses very image...
      Very much a sacrifice comparable to the one "The Boss" Made for "Big Boss".
      Everyone played their role to escort Big Boss to power.
      in comes dumb idiot pawn solid snake to fuck it all up..... xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
      One that Matches The Boss himself, here to be the undoing.. and possibly the pro generator
      then is told to stop fucking it up and just live life. less he simply bring 0 back from nothingness. restarting everything.
      Kojima had written ALOT of the untold interpersonal parts throughout the entire series. Like a producers commentary
      All the story that couldnt be put into the games otherwise... they'd be movies and not games x] So if you think mgs4 was pushing it.. just wonder if all the games had 2x more than mgs4's storytelling cutscenes xD

    • @universesbiggestdouchebag8350
      @universesbiggestdouchebag8350 4 роки тому +2

      @@logicmonkey1034 oh yeah, this is big brain time

    • @logicmonkey1034
      @logicmonkey1034 4 роки тому +5

      so yeah... Ocelot was gay for Big boss thus Solid Snake. He likely would have taken it in the ass and considered it an honor XD

  • @bercerus
    @bercerus 2 роки тому +2646

    Fun fact :
    the grave that snake visiting is grave of Big Boss. the tomb stone said...
    ""A hero forever loyal to the flames of war rests in Outer Heaven 193X-1999""
    but as the lore update in MGSV. the grave now is actually Venom's grave. since he is the "Big Boss" who died in outer heaven.

    • @TheMasterUnity
      @TheMasterUnity 2 роки тому +376

      Not really. Venom died during Operation Intrude N313 in 1995, not 1999. 1999 Was the date that the real Big Boss “died” so it is a grave to the real Big Boss.

    • @comteraffayn8351
      @comteraffayn8351 2 роки тому +284

      Venom died during Outer Heaven Incident and years later Big Boss "died" during Zanzibar Land incident

    • @a.k8185
      @a.k8185 2 роки тому +311

      Venom deserved better.

    • @james_ford86
      @james_ford86 2 роки тому +258

      Big Boss was technically killed twice in MG1 and MG2. The first "Big Boss" in MG1 was Venom, and he really did die. He wasn't put into nanomachine stasis or some crap like that. He was really dead. The "Big Boss" in MG2 was the REAL Big Boss, and he didn't really die. He was put into a coma via nanotechnology and only woke up after the Patriots were taken down in MGS4.

    • @Britishwolf89
      @Britishwolf89 2 роки тому +93

      Considering Big Boss spills the beans on practically everything in this scene, it kinda doesn't make sense to not tell him about Venom at this point. Solid Snake would die soon after this anyway and take it to the grave with him. I know V is a ret con and all, but it doesn't completely fit into the greater story. Seemed like it would have been perfect to mention it when he's talking about Ocelot being Liquids Doppelganger "and btw Snake, i had a Doppelganger too".

  • @FinalLugiaGuardian
    @FinalLugiaGuardian 4 роки тому +6629

    I tend to think the last six months of Snake's life after this consisted of him traveling to the places he always wanted to visit, trying the foods he always wanted to try, seeing a few good movies that he always wanted to watch, visiting all the people he called friends one last time, and writing down his refelctions on his life.
    Then, after six months of doing all that, he died peacefully in his sleep. Not as a Snake the Soldier, but as David the man.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 роки тому +586

      Or at least, officially. With this series, who can be sure?
      Never say Foxdie, huh?

    • @tylerjackson1651
      @tylerjackson1651 4 роки тому +56

      Doubt it

    • @wess1797
      @wess1797 4 роки тому +307

      In the Japanese version of MGR he has his consciousness uploaded into a sword

    • @namethis658
      @namethis658 4 роки тому +525

      @@wess1797 ehm, no, not really. There's a wooden sword dlc item, but it serves decoratory purposes. This wooden sword plays his lines.
      This however, is no indication that his memory was uploaded. So, he's pretty dead.

    • @namethis658
      @namethis658 4 роки тому +124

      Yes, that's pretty much what the official info states. He died pretty soon after 2014, though.

  • @tenou213
    @tenou213 4 роки тому +4190

    I forgot how human the ending of this was.
    There was no true singular big bad in the end - just the cumulative decisions of a lot of powerful people being swept away beyond their control in a direction that was more coincidence than intended consequence.

    • @Aighthandle
      @Aighthandle 3 роки тому +193

      It was a powerful indictment of systems that allow war to be profitable because whatever intentions that led the war economies to self-propagate are inevitably swept away by the scale of the power (that wants to persist and therefore grow) now invested in perpetual war economies. Outer haven was designed to end wars, the patriots were designed to use the philosophers’ profits to create a world where war wasn’t necessary, etc

    • @praveenloganathan7495
      @praveenloganathan7495 3 роки тому +138

      The true evil in the world is not bad people, but the system that makes it. Even if the system itself is completely destroyed, a new one will take its place to maintain order. The effect of that new system is what we see in Metal Gear Revengeance.

    • @szeltovivarsydroxan9944
      @szeltovivarsydroxan9944 3 роки тому +51

      ...and then there was Volgin.

    • @excitedcat9517
      @excitedcat9517 3 роки тому +33

      Except skullface
      Fuck skullface

    • @CagedSUPERMAN
      @CagedSUPERMAN 3 роки тому +7

      @@praveenloganathan7495 mankind is inherently rotten.

  • @fyanmuhamad4441
    @fyanmuhamad4441 5 років тому +3477

    Major Zero died and still doesn't know who stole his tea and scone in 1964 lol

    • @cartoonken5060
      @cartoonken5060 5 років тому +571

      the entirety of snakes storyline is actually just major zero manipulating him in to trying to figure out who stole his tea and scone

    • @downanotherday
      @downanotherday 5 років тому +116

      My God almost as bad as John wick murdering all those people over his dog

    • @NotMe-yh5gi
      @NotMe-yh5gi 5 років тому +36

      @@downanotherday I love how you said almost

    • @fosphor8920
      @fosphor8920 5 років тому +20

      @@MrKnaives It's called disrespect and you don't disrespect a retired hitman ;P

    • @Abdirahman_Mohamed
      @Abdirahman_Mohamed 5 років тому +33

      @@fosphor8920 before snake turned off his life support, zero whispered to snake "was it para-medic? or was it sigint?"

  • @Klavin
    @Klavin 2 роки тому +2173

    So many people misinterpreted the Boss’ will after she died, I like how Solid Snake became her true successor without ever having met her

    • @viewtiful1doubleokamihand253
      @viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 2 роки тому +417

      Or realizing he's doing her will.
      It's almost as if good people are led by principles they don't even need to be taught or something...

    • @renseiryuu
      @renseiryuu Рік тому +93

      Things might wouldn't gone so chaotic had the Boss just thought of leaving behind a written will of some sort XD. Or at least some message...who knows, to EVA perhaps?
      Of course, that's what makes the whole story interesting, and perhaps she might not have the chance to do so in the first place. But just think about it, her being vague is what caused this mess to blow up.

    • @Lansone31
      @Lansone31 Рік тому +101

      @@renseiryuu If you think about it, The Boss was more than clear in her actions and words.
      At the beginning of the mission she makes his last speech to John, explaining that loyalty is the most important thing, "Do you want to live like a soldier or like a man with a gun?" Patriotism, no matter who your president is or whether your country is doing it wrong or not, you must do what your country asks of you.
      She wanted balance in the world, and above all respect for other people's ideas, and not just her own.
      The Boss had accepted his fate, to sacrifice himself to save his country (and the world too) while trying to change it, or oppose "Times" would only fuel more wars and divisions, exactly what Big Boss and Zero did.
      Big Boss" She betrayed me, instead of continuing to fight she surrendered to her destiny, I will instead fight our 'Times' to make it the way I want"
      Zero "The boss wanted a united world, so I will try to dominate it and impose my idea on others"...
      Big boss himself said the right thing in his last moment.
      "We're just a bunch of old fools who ruined the world"
      P.s Yes, Eva leave a message to Big Boss, but he still don't get It...

    • @renseiryuu
      @renseiryuu Рік тому +16

      @@Lansone31 I dunno, it still doesn't feel clear to me even now XD. Perhaps I'm just a dum dum.
      If anything, those words just feel like her way of saying "be yourself". And then, Big boss and Zero deciphered the "be yourself" with their own interpretation. I didn't catch the part where "things must be balanced" or "leave things as it is".

    • @Lansone31
      @Lansone31 Рік тому +18

      @@renseiryuu No you're not😂, it's just very complicated to follow the whole story, but putting all the pieces together can be easier to understand.
      (Also add the fact that English is not my mother tongue😂)
      I'll give you a simple example, when she was entrusted with her mission, which is to pretend to "Defect", she certainly could have opposed it.
      She was a hero, daughter of one of the "philosophers" by the way, she could have tried a golpe to keep her position and her respect as a soldier.
      What would this bring? Internal wars in the US and probably chaos in the world at a political level, whoever did not agree with The Boss idea would have declared war, and even if she had won, and imposed her good ideas on the world, would all the dead and destruction be justified?
      (Basically the same scenario as the Zero/BB war)
      The boss didn't want this, precisely because she respected the ideas of others, she also respected the decision of his superiors to sacrifice herself, because it was probably the best thing to do to avoid a total war between the USA and the USSR.
      "Do you want to be a soldier? Don't fight only for your ideals and selfishness. Fight for the best choice for the whole world"
      Big Boss instead chose to fight only for himself and his men, not caring about the rest, so he became just
      "a man with a gun".
      Or at least, this Is what i think.

  • @hadephobiac
    @hadephobiac 4 роки тому +5815

    Imagine meeting your daddy for the first time ever and he spends 30mins explaining techy metaphysical shit to you when you just want another hug

    • @rabbit7071
      @rabbit7071 4 роки тому +201

      Sounds a lot like my actual dad tho.

    • @LostSoulSilver
      @LostSoulSilver 4 роки тому +356

      + D-Dad?? (Brother???) But I killed you decades ago!! With a rocket launcher!!!
      - No, that wasn't me. That was the other me. The other Big Boss
      + WHAT???

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 4 роки тому +153

      Imagine that he just walked up to some other dude and explained all this to him. He hasn't seen Snake since MG2 so he could've easily confused him

    • @GamePilLP
      @GamePilLP 4 роки тому +24

      @Týr His clone that looks nothing like him. Remember Big Boss looks like Solidus not Solid

    • @walterdenny8143
      @walterdenny8143 4 роки тому +75

      Big Boss trained Solid Snake for years in FOXHOUND and fought in Zanzibarland, after Solid Snake also killed Punished Snake in Outer Heaven.

  • @yup7452
    @yup7452 3 роки тому +6346

    "Did Zero hate me, or did he fear me?"
    It's sad when you find out that Zero actually just missed him in MGSV

    • @ace9924
      @ace9924 3 роки тому +619

      Yeah it was neither. In some ways 5 really was a sequel in how it answered that question

    • @watcherman222
      @watcherman222 3 роки тому +957

      Even sadder when it's revealed that he did everything in his power to save Big Boss from XOF, even when he's slowly becoming a vegetable.

    • @shwibbleglibble7197
      @shwibbleglibble7197 3 роки тому +453

      V deserves way more credit tbh

    • @TheMessiahOfThe99Percent
      @TheMessiahOfThe99Percent 3 роки тому +87

      @@shwibbleglibble7197 what how he is just a man-child who loves balloons and harmless guns

    • @chunxzybear3845
      @chunxzybear3845 3 роки тому +103

      @@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent well I've heard that he did somewhat fight for more peace

  • @RichterBelmont2235
    @RichterBelmont2235 3 роки тому +4044

    On the meta level, Kojima specifically choose the actual father of JP Solid Snake to voice JP Big Boss. Even more meta is that they both have a rocky relationship at the time so both the mocap and voicework in this scene is much more powerful than usual.

    • @Blayze
      @Blayze 2 роки тому +676

      The real question is if he intentionally found some way of sabotaging the VAs' relationship purely so he could use it like this.

    • @sealbeegle9785
      @sealbeegle9785 2 роки тому +506

      @@Blayze entirely possible given kojima's brain's dynamics

    • @mccarthy5825
      @mccarthy5825 2 роки тому +2

      Didn't Kojima also get 'favors' from that cosplayer who did like the the Raiden face mask/Raincoat Snake that was so blatant everyone knew she was wiping Kojima cum off that faceplate!??

    • @thelion2751
      @thelion2751 2 роки тому +126

      @@Blayzegoddamn it maxor was right in calling him headache kojingles (a play word) because how in the hell do you do that to your VA's

    • @shawncothran6337
      @shawncothran6337 2 роки тому +17

      That's super interesting. Thank you

  • @andy4LOL
    @andy4LOL Рік тому +341

    I always say that Solid Snake is the embodiment of The Boss’s will. The beautiful thing about this is that he never knew about her until the end of MGS4. Big Boss admitted at the end that after he killed The Boss he was a broken man and because of this he misinterpreted The Boss’s will by being angry and disappointed by the world’s governments view of soldiers being tools. Solid Snake knew about this and knew that it is unfair for soldiers, but he accept it. Snake always knew that soldiers will be forever tools of war, this is the reality. Knowing this, Snake was always trying to the right thing for the world to have a better future, not to change it. Big Boss on the contrary, was trying to do things his own way no matter the cost to change the world for a “better” future and look how he ended up.
    The Boss knew she was a tool during Operation Snake Eater. Was it fair? No. Was this the right thing to do to save or make the world better? Yes. Even if she will be remembered as the villain to the world, in her eyes and beliefs she did the right thing to prevent a Nuclear War, and achieved it. She couldn’t change the Cold War, but did the right thing to have a better future and the Cold War follow its course in history like nothing ever happened. She was not a hero, never was, never will be.
    The Patriots were the total opposite of what The Boss believe. The Patriots never respect the world as it is, this is why they wanted total control and this is why Solid Snake was trying his best to defeat them and never wanted nothing in return unlike his father and brothers.
    Big Boss - I will fight Cipher because I WANT to change the world for MY soldiers.
    Liquid - I will fight The Patriots because I WANT my future that was denied from me before birth.
    Solidus - I will fight The Patriots because I WANT to be remembered.
    Snake - I must fight The Patriots because it is my duty to protect what I believe in and others, even if it kills me. I’m no hero, never was, never will be.
    Snake knew to let the world to be as it is, doesn’t mean you won’t do nothing, but try to do the right and best thing as a soldier. Have your own morals, beliefs, honor and humility and follow it because they’re your own, not the government or organizations. Trying not to be the hero of the world. You may be a hero to the public but in reality you are just a tool. This is something that Liquid, Solidus and Big Boos never understood. They wanted to be the saviors of the world and change it. Don’t try to change the world. Respect the world and others, the world will be in constant change by itself by the Times and it will always be that way.
    War will continue on forever but there will be a time that you as an individual need peace. You already fought your battles, follow your orders, follow your beliefs and finished the mission. Now is time to live life not as a soldier, not as a snake, but as a man.

    • @rebbeca3097
      @rebbeca3097 Рік тому +16

      bro... that's beautiful

    • @ghettoasiandude
      @ghettoasiandude 11 місяців тому +7

      Amazingly written. ❤

    • @Terraqueo22
      @Terraqueo22 11 місяців тому +16

      Heh.. SOmeone perfectly caught on the message
      ''Dont try to change the World(Its cocky and selfish on the world and the people and the things on it and you shouldn't worry about changing it it will change itself better than with your intrusion)
      Fight for what you believe in: your morals, beliefs, honor and dignity use humility to not trample on other people morals and stuff..
      War is never gonna end, if you defeat one madman its just a matter of time till another take his place.
      You should focus on passing your beliefs, morals and stuff to the other generations so they can too evolve and survive on new eras and pass on effectively to their descendants. A constant evolution... A better rationale and mentality.

    • @tonedeafchop1607
      @tonedeafchop1607 10 місяців тому +2

      That was deep

    • @nynvib276
      @nynvib276 9 місяців тому +1

      Should probably refer to snake as solid since big boss is referred to as just snake sometimes

  • @ShinrugaYasaka
    @ShinrugaYasaka 3 роки тому +3642

    Did Zero hate me? Or did he fear me?
    Zero: *Literally shits his pants a second after.*

    • @The1of1000
      @The1of1000 3 роки тому +184

      That’s a great point lmfao

    • @dendanskehelt4296
      @dendanskehelt4296 3 роки тому +81

      I always wondered what that was xD

    • @gjtrue
      @gjtrue 3 роки тому +187

      Being serious, we get the sad, heartbreaking answer to that in MGSV.

    • @ankoasmr2510
      @ankoasmr2510 3 роки тому +127

      Actually it’s him taking a piss. That “fart” noise you heard at the beginning is the wheelchair
      Keeping him alive.

    • @theblackhood4121
      @theblackhood4121 3 роки тому +7

      Jonathan joestar

  • @filippauljohnson6924
    @filippauljohnson6924 4 роки тому +3305

    *Big Boss looking at Death*
    "Kept you waiting, huh?"

    • @emptyd8364
      @emptyd8364 4 роки тому +68

      You are pretty good!

    • @komi-samabeliever7319
      @komi-samabeliever7319 4 роки тому +112

      Death:
      What took you so long...?

    • @PilgrimXIII
      @PilgrimXIII 4 роки тому +94

      "Was I a good boss?"
      *"No..."*
      *"I'm told you were the best."*

    • @walterdenny8143
      @walterdenny8143 4 роки тому +54

      I'd like to think that The Boss, The Sorrow, Ocelot, Eva, and Ahab, and all the other friends he made whom he outlived were all there waiting for him.

    • @mightyjoeyoung9741
      @mightyjoeyoung9741 3 роки тому +20

      Who said Big Boss even died? He just dropped his cigar. His arm was still on his knee and his head up straight, he didn't go limp. He could be meditating lol.

  • @unwritten_zephyr
    @unwritten_zephyr 4 роки тому +4051

    “The world would be better off without snakes.”
    Thats the one that breaks me.

    • @OblivionWolf
      @OblivionWolf 4 роки тому +167

      Sadly in the end, Big Boss predicted MG's downfall...

    • @abusedumpster8882
      @abusedumpster8882 4 роки тому +191

      The Cigar and “this is good, isn’t it?” Are what kill me.

    • @shiestyrecords3225
      @shiestyrecords3225 4 роки тому +44

      mine was him huggin snake and telling him to let it go

    • @gogetathestrongestfusion
      @gogetathestrongestfusion 4 роки тому +7

      Unwritten_Zephyr yup we need raidens not sakes

    • @solidsneak69
      @solidsneak69 4 роки тому +21

      @@gogetathestrongestfusion too much sakes then you'll get drunk

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky 2 роки тому +1035

    10:24 As someone who entered the franchise at MGS3, this moment hit like a sack of bricks

    • @anigah
      @anigah 2 роки тому +48

      Me too. Only played 3 and 4.. And little of 5.
      Best games ever, those 2.. Even though I don't remember anything but the feeling I had while completing it

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 2 роки тому +14

      @@anigah mgs 1 and 2 are on pc on gog

    • @TxAGGression
      @TxAGGression 2 роки тому +3

      @@shyguy85 link?

    • @jonathansmithers2763
      @jonathansmithers2763 2 роки тому +1

      @@shyguy85 please give link

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 Рік тому +14

      @@jonathansmithers2763 I mean, you're on PC, google it? :S
      MGS2 was on gog, it only appears intermittently, they pull it, then put it back on, apparently at will.
      When it does show up again, be sure to grab V's patch and SOS mod, V's patch fixes the game, SOS mod re-writes camera code in the game, and introduces MGS3 Subsistence 3PP camera mode.

  • @barofsoap5092
    @barofsoap5092 4 роки тому +4172

    **Big Boss meeting Miller in heaven**
    Big Boss: Kept you waiting, huh?

    • @hirimemaru
      @hirimemaru 4 роки тому +95

      Uff man thats so sad

    • @qqq386
      @qqq386 4 роки тому +153

      Doubt it. Kaz was an asshole in the end and hated Big Boss

    • @volteuss
      @volteuss 4 роки тому +314

      Kaz: Yeah. About the Burger chain....
      Big Boss: NOT NOW MILLER.

    • @Atesjb
      @Atesjb 4 роки тому +305

      @@qqq386 hahaha fuck no. Big Boss betrayed Kaz. Big Boss is the asshole and this scene shows him realizing that.

    • @Atesjb
      @Atesjb 4 роки тому +133

      Kaz literally said Big Boss can go to hell, which he was right about.

  • @amalgomyte5628
    @amalgomyte5628 3 роки тому +4324

    Man is too talkative to die.
    He's been dying for 20 minutes and was able to stand up on his own.
    Attention: Looks like this comment thread is a wee bit famous. Congratulations to all of you who also enjoy MGS.

    • @soulgin3682
      @soulgin3682 3 роки тому +275

      To be honest he did fight death himself as boss fight in mgs3 and not to mention all the shit in peace walker he did single handily

    • @TheMrCHELL
      @TheMrCHELL 3 роки тому +72

      He is that badass.

    • @xxmlgguyxx1167
      @xxmlgguyxx1167 2 роки тому +46

      I mean...
      Ocelot hid his true identity for a long time.
      Big Boss stood up as he was dying.

    • @Chick2106
      @Chick2106 2 роки тому +29

      @@soulgin3682 like the time he lifted the Peace Walker leg and throw it back

    • @S3NDP13
      @S3NDP13 2 роки тому +33

      Cut him some slack. He's been in a forced coma for 15 years!

  • @kazmark_gl8652
    @kazmark_gl8652 4 роки тому +6842

    Big Boss: "they've never been able to completely turn one person into another"
    Venom Snake: Am I a joke to you?

    • @mitchwhite6826
      @mitchwhite6826 4 роки тому +1119

      He's saying the A.I.'s couldn't do it. Venom was changed the same way as Ocelot, with hypnosis. Then given plastic surgery to resemble Big Boss.

    • @donnellebarfield3964
      @donnellebarfield3964 4 роки тому +767

      Vemon is just the biggest badass in all of metal gear he was severely injured but even bigboss and ocelot saw him as big boss better or equal he defeated skull face

    • @kazmark_gl8652
      @kazmark_gl8652 4 роки тому +330

      @@donnellebarfield3964 I think its more of a coincidence that Venom snake worked out so well.
      It was Zero who got the ball rolling through, Boss was still in a coma. and ocelot is just working for Zero as some kind of favor or possibly to get something in return.

    • @med1686
      @med1686 4 роки тому +45

      Venom and big boss are the same person

    • @mitchwhite6826
      @mitchwhite6826 4 роки тому +310

      @@med1686 Technically Big Boss is two people: Naked Snake and Venom "punished" Snake

  • @John.McMillan
    @John.McMillan 2 роки тому +697

    I find it sad that Big Boss never realised what The Boss's will actually was until the very end of his life.
    Not a world where soldiers are always needed, but instead a world where they arent needed to be created in the first place.

    • @anthonyfernandez82
      @anthonyfernandez82 Рік тому +48

      Peace Walker ending makes me think that he almost did it out of spite of her will

    • @ssstrega
      @ssstrega Рік тому +30

      ​@@anthonyfernandez82after peace walker BB stopped giving shit about the Boss's will and interpreted it his way

    • @vladiator8120
      @vladiator8120 Рік тому +56

      It's not that he didn't realize it, he became angry at the system for everything they did to the Boss and to him. He saw so much shit in his lifetime he just went on a personal vendetta to stick it to the system. Big Boss is a tragic hero, it's not that he didn't realize, he knew all along and tried to do good and achieve Boss's vision. But when the system betrays him, Big Boss stops playing by the rules.

    • @zergusjack9636
      @zergusjack9636 10 місяців тому +18

      What is sadder is that BB didn't ever know that Zero never meant him any harm, and he always considered BB as a friend

    • @mr.monkey354
      @mr.monkey354 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonyfernandez82 one of the many reasons why i didn't like peace walker that much.

  • @NightShadeGame
    @NightShadeGame 2 роки тому +4941

    Can we just acknowledge hes full on having a heart attack and yet he has the strength to not only give a 20min speech but to stand and salute The Boss. True sheer will right there

    • @Immadeus
      @Immadeus 2 роки тому +591

      He *IS* the world's greatest soldier after all. He makes death itself sit in the waiting room for 20 minutes before he dies.

    • @CursedWheelieBin
      @CursedWheelieBin 2 роки тому

      Hideo Kojima had become an unstoppable, unquestionable, arrogant megalomaniac by this point (not in a good way) who loved the smell of his own farts.
      Nobody questioned him because he was surrounded by weasels and yes-men who just wanted a pay cheque. Im glad Konami told him to f**k off because this is just self indulgent nonsense.
      26 f**king minutes for an old man to have a heart attack and yet somehow give a meandering melodramatic speech. They don’t even speak like humans. It’s like they’re aliens or something, imitating the English language, trying so hard to force “the drama”. 🙄
      I’ll stick to games that resemble actual games, not weirdo anime cartoons

    • @ramr7051
      @ramr7051 2 роки тому +50

      It's a video game, anything you want can happen. Yawn.

    • @Frazer2
      @Frazer2 Рік тому +310

      @@ramr7051 it's not just a game, it's art, it's METAL GEAR show some damn respect

    • @FAMCHAMP
      @FAMCHAMP Рік тому +213

      FOXDIE: Why is it taking so long to kill this man!?!?
      Big Boss: *_"Kept you waiting huh?"_*

  • @themcknox
    @themcknox 3 роки тому +4514

    The fact that Ocelot is so good at covert ops that he can convince himself hes a completely different person still blows my mind until this day. It could be possible that none of us have ever seen the real ocelot.

    • @vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489
      @vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489 3 роки тому +161

      So Ocelot best boi confirm?

    • @AxisChurchDevotee
      @AxisChurchDevotee 3 роки тому +761

      Mgs5 is probably the closest thing to his actual self.

    • @themcknox
      @themcknox 3 роки тому +143

      @@AxisChurchDevotee now that you think about it, it probably is.

    • @midnight-fox7456
      @midnight-fox7456 3 роки тому +258

      I was about to say MGS1 and 3, but then I realized, in 3 he's working for CIA under cover of a Russian soldier and an Ocelot unit member. And in 1 he's secretly working for the president, and keeping a lot of information from Liquid. I still think we do see most of real Ocelot's character in 1, he's just keeping stuff to himself.

    • @MikeDoesRandomThings
      @MikeDoesRandomThings 3 роки тому +307

      MGSV is the closest we see, primarily because Ocelots true loyalty was to his mother (The Boss), and to Big Boss after her death. His loyalty to Big Boss and his desire to end the Patriots was his focus throughout the entire series. The bit of honesty you get from him in MGS4 is when he asks Snake: "Stop you? Now why would I want to do that?" He wanted snake to succeed, MGS4 his actual intent was to seize, reveal, and destroy the patriots. Just as Big Boss ultimately wanted.

  • @VonArmagedda
    @VonArmagedda 5 років тому +3856

    "Did he really hate me...or did he fear me?" And them from MGS5, we learned the fact that Zero missed him. Shame that Big boss never learned that fact

    • @zerogravity213
      @zerogravity213 5 років тому +60

      He fear him

    • @collegebro85
      @collegebro85 4 роки тому +481

      Zero admired and respected Big Boss, hell everyone from the Patriots loved Big Boss, but Zero and those that fell in with him were too determined to see the Boss’ Will come to fruition rather than compromising with the man. Like a parent that thinks they know better than a child, Zero was blinded just like everyone else in the series...

    • @izanagi711
      @izanagi711 4 роки тому +124

      In the end SS was the true inheritor of the Boss' will

    • @geminiwriter8875
      @geminiwriter8875 4 роки тому +190

      He did all three. He hated him for veering off his interpretation of the Boss’s will. Feared him for what he’d do if his interpretation came into direct conflict with his. Missed him for the friend that was once on his side - showing how impacted and shattered friendships can be if things are not handled correctly, succinctly and willing to put ego aside for the greater good.

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 4 роки тому +27

      Until at least somewhere around 1984, just before he became what he is here, zero loved and missed big boss

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 2 роки тому +726

    “This is good, isn’t it?”
    One of the greatest ending lines ever.

    • @LightSkye
      @LightSkye Рік тому +16

      Simple but meaningful, totally agree.

    • @draexian530
      @draexian530 Рік тому +14

      Such a monumental doubt. Big Boss was always sure. Sure enough to cast the world into chaos; to raise armies over his idea of liberty. I wonder if that doubt was the final piece needed for him to find faith. Faith in a world without snakes. Without men like him. At least he found peace. In the end.

    • @boblionia
      @boblionia 9 місяців тому +1

      Fucks me up every time

  • @Ascension.z
    @Ascension.z 3 роки тому +3747

    *boss enters heaven*
    notices a familiar person: "Ahab?"
    *venom turns around*
    "hey Ishmael."

    • @cssbr3191
      @cssbr3191 3 роки тому +247

      And all the people he saved and his friends.
      It is good isn't it?

    • @ranuxell9182
      @ranuxell9182 3 роки тому +382

      "kept ya waiting huh?"

    • @TruetoCaesar
      @TruetoCaesar 3 роки тому +62

      Ishmael was not Naked Snake, it was Mantis's illusion to help Venom out of the hospital.

    • @TmanTheTdog
      @TmanTheTdog 3 роки тому +460

      @@TruetoCaesar Pretty sure in the “The Man Who Sold The World” mission in MGSV it’s clarified that Naked Snake was Ishmael working to get Venom out of the hospital, after the car crash he met up with Ocelot, got some clothes and his eyepatch, and left on a motorcycle before Venom regained consciousness.

    • @ntfdbrs2562
      @ntfdbrs2562 3 роки тому +226

      @@TruetoCaesar nope, Ishmael _was_ Naked Snake, on the first mission, Ocelot got him out of the crashed car first and send him on his way, then he woke up Venom later.

  • @DraphEnjoyer
    @DraphEnjoyer 5 років тому +4728

    "Wait I thought I killed you"
    "No that was the paramedic"
    "but that's..."
    "Let it go my son"

  • @helpmeget1millionsubscribe983
    @helpmeget1millionsubscribe983 5 років тому +3398

    Remember how Zero was a really optimistic guy who liked James bond movies?
    He is the villiam of the franchise.

    • @QuesoGr7
      @QuesoGr7 5 років тому +187

      crazy shit, right?

    • @MasonMillerKingofCaturday
      @MasonMillerKingofCaturday 5 років тому +253

      I feel like making the mgs3 cast into the founders of the patriots was a pretty retarded twist, I guarantee that wasn't the intention until mgs4 was being written and kojima had to come up with answers to questions he never intended on answering

    • @tastycookiechip
      @tastycookiechip 4 роки тому +481

      @@MasonMillerKingofCaturday Nah it's a great twist. It can show how far good people can fall when corrupted with power

    • @MasonMillerKingofCaturday
      @MasonMillerKingofCaturday 4 роки тому +97

      @@tastycookiechip That's understandable but in mgs3 they didn't really seem to care very much about the boss, it makes no sense that they would want to create a religion surrounding the boss/big boss to create the boss's ideal world. Idk tho maybe I'm missing something

    • @InherentEvil
      @InherentEvil 4 роки тому +163

      @@MasonMillerKingofCaturday You're right but the hardcore MGS/Kojima fans will willfully ignore that, it was a mistake to make MGS4 revolve around Big Boss and the cast of operation snake eater. Some support unit from a secret mission back in the 60's end up being founders for what is basically Metal Gear's version of the illuminati, it's silly.

  • @adcodeur4086
    @adcodeur4086 Рік тому +296

    It's litteraly impossible for a human being who finished the Metal Gear franchise to not *cry* in this scene...

  • @kyinfidelis3425
    @kyinfidelis3425 5 років тому +2957

    Solid Snake: Am I going to die?
    Big Boss: Everyone dies.
    Solid Snake: *Wow, thanks Dad!*

    • @wowsuchhandle
      @wowsuchhandle 4 роки тому +122

      Solid Snake: Liquid died of foxdie when am I gonna die ?
      Naomi: Everybody dies when their time is up.
      Solid Snake: So when is my time up ?
      Naomi: It's up to you how you use the time you have left. Live snake.
      Solid Snake: Wow, thanks naomi!

    • @DD-hz3ts
      @DD-hz3ts 4 роки тому +30

      Big Boss: hi going to die I'm Big Boss

    • @madhatt3r93
      @madhatt3r93 4 роки тому +3

      Thats just how dads are like

    • @JohnDoeTheGoodGuy
      @JohnDoeTheGoodGuy 4 роки тому +4

      What did you want him to say? Anything other than that answer would've been a lie. He said what every good father should say to a stupid son who's afraid of the inevitability of death.

    • @Turboman-kx7cc
      @Turboman-kx7cc 4 роки тому

      Better to tell the truth than lie to him.

  • @lopey5035
    @lopey5035 3 роки тому +7832

    Fucking love how Big Boss instantly disarms him without even an ounce of a struggle. Truly the world's greatest soldier.

    • @KING-dz1qv
      @KING-dz1qv 2 роки тому +97

      beatiful

    • @kyzersoze8408
      @kyzersoze8408 2 роки тому +285

      Solid snake was distracted. He took his eye off big boss.

    • @JohnGatsbyThe3rd
      @JohnGatsbyThe3rd 2 роки тому +654

      @@kyzersoze8408 exactly, big boss distracted him by dropping his own gun

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 2 роки тому +565

      @@JohnGatsbyThe3rd Um... thats part of the technique. It literally shows how big boss is the master of cqc...

    • @JohnGatsbyThe3rd
      @JohnGatsbyThe3rd 2 роки тому +102

      @@jonnyj. thanks for pointing out the obvious which is literally what I said

  • @GuyWithTheMost
    @GuyWithTheMost 4 роки тому +2086

    When Snake lights boss's cigar, I shed tears. For the first time, he finds respect for his estranged father, who was once his enemy. That moment righ t there makes this whole scene for me

    • @downfallofmankind
      @downfallofmankind 4 роки тому +104

      GuyWithTheToast the fact that Snake’s mouth was trembling when looking at Boss before lighting the cigar plus the music made me cry like a baby

    • @StopJerkingOff
      @StopJerkingOff 4 роки тому +56

      a boy from NEU he’s probably thinking that they could had been allies and actually could of had a father son relationship had zero not basically brainwashed snake into thinking BigBoss was a villain. Zero put them against each other even tho they never did any harm to each other personally, they didn’t even choose their own battles.

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 4 роки тому

      Nerd

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 4 роки тому

      J & B Slots and More jerkoff...

    • @StopJerkingOff
      @StopJerkingOff 4 роки тому +12

      irish mickey yea but who ended up being the bigger villain in the end? Him or zero? BigBoss was never truly a villain most of the worst stuff “BigBoss” did was actually done by Venom Snake.

  • @thejuiceweasel
    @thejuiceweasel 2 роки тому +832

    4:55 I love how Big Boss basically hints at the ending of MGS5. Kojima is so good at retroactively giving his lines more meaning than they had initially.

    • @Kimarnic
      @Kimarnic Рік тому +12

      Bruh, PW wasn't even made

    • @solidsalt3412
      @solidsalt3412 Рік тому +61

      @@Kimarnic HUH?!

    • @TeamHDartsbr
      @TeamHDartsbr Рік тому +84

      Actually he was talking about ocelot acting like líquid snake, but that Works too

    • @amuroray9115
      @amuroray9115 Рік тому +53

      None of MGS5 was planned at this point. It has a bunch of retcons
      He’s talking about Ocelot.
      even this game has a bunch of retcons

    • @theknightowl728
      @theknightowl728 Рік тому +29

      Kojima is a retcon producing super machine.

  • @utamaputra7780
    @utamaputra7780 5 років тому +4898

    Mgs 1 story = make you awe
    Mgs 2 story = epic plot twist
    Mgs 3 story = perfect story
    Mgs 4 story = tying all loose ends from previous story by doing each of them justice

    • @Pyovali
      @Pyovali 5 років тому +294

      @@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt But the most important is: WHOOOO!!

    • @Jay-ln1co
      @Jay-ln1co 5 років тому +572

      MGS V story = Why are we here? Just to suffer?
      It's a shame people ignore Peace Walker. While it and V aren't technically needed, I still found PW to be a nice addition.

    • @shadowlinkbds
      @shadowlinkbds 5 років тому +309

      MG survive= A cliche zombie survival game and a big middle finger to us fan of the series.

    • @utamaputra7780
      @utamaputra7780 5 років тому +106

      @@Jay-ln1co definitely, PW has its epic moment too. That game is pretty much kojima testing ground for the mechanics and prelude to mgs v.

    • @RainSennin_ismyAlt
      @RainSennin_ismyAlt 5 років тому +64

      @@IMainReaperIfYouCanBelieveIt i still like Phantom pain tho

  • @dannyr6070
    @dannyr6070 5 років тому +1176

    Close
    Quarter
    Cuddles
    (CQC)

  • @lukmanulhakim5529
    @lukmanulhakim5529 2 роки тому +274

    *"This is good... Isn't it?"*
    Could it be referring to the cigar? The life after war? The conclusion of a long running franchise? (Solid Snake)
    For me, its all of them. And yes, it is good.

    • @jonathanbradley4896
      @jonathanbradley4896 10 місяців тому +9

      I always interpreted it as John saying that just chilling having a moment of peace and a cigar with his son is nice.
      For their entire lives, these 2 men have known only conflict, with whoever they were sent against, then against each other.

    • @archhanny
      @archhanny Місяць тому

      This really is the last MGS in the series right here.

  • @MF-rw3rb
    @MF-rw3rb 3 роки тому +2595

    When he said "I'm not here to fight", that is really deep considering he knew by meeting snake he would die. So he actually decided to meet his son knowing it would be the end.

    • @igorcheglakov333
      @igorcheglakov333 2 роки тому +91

      In this universe everyone gives speeches, he's compelled to

    • @barretworks
      @barretworks 2 роки тому +162

      He put down his gun like The Boss did in MGS3 and he criticized her for in Peace Walker, meaning he really did finally understand why The Boss did what she did.

    • @hafizmohd8224
      @hafizmohd8224 2 роки тому +79

      @@barretworks He got a right to be angry at everything.All personnel around him only using him as a war tool;dependable yet can be disposed when the time come.He just saw his mentor being sacrificed as a scapegoat to cover the States ass and the guts to celebrate his "achievement" over despite it was one of their black ops.Even though it was The Boss wish to make her death happen that way,Big Boss felt betrayed and lose a part of him as soldier that day knowing sooner or later he would face a same situation as The Boss.Luckily,he got a solid excuse to depart from military and his country when Zero executed Les Enfants Terribles without his concern.

    • @ssk58607
      @ssk58607 Рік тому +20

      @@hafizmohd8224 and he got venom snake to do a lot of his dirty work though it was not his intention in the beginning

    • @fialeka88
      @fialeka88 Рік тому +3

      ​@@agentstone4249because he was inplanted witch nanomachines and kept in eternal sleep - he couldnt do anything. - thats his words 2:48

  • @vittoprince
    @vittoprince 3 роки тому +2266

    _“Did Zero hate me? Or did he fear me?”_
    Neither. He very much missed his friend, and most importantly, did everything he could to keep Big Boss safe, no matter where he was. It wasn’t until they both were in their final moments that they finally reconciled, but it was too late; Zero was a corpse at this point, and there was not enough time for Zero and *_Snake_* to speak with each other one last time. If only Zero had made the smart move not to reveal his location to Paz, he could’ve retired peacefully, and he probably would have reconnected with Big Boss in one way or another. But that’s my own personal take. You could agree or disagree.

    • @187onaPigeon
      @187onaPigeon 2 роки тому +76

      I feel kinda bad for selling my Xbox One, never listened to all the tapes. But had enough tapes to know that Zero cared for Big Boss.

    • @rad3on929
      @rad3on929 2 роки тому +44

      He was already sick when he assigned Paz, so it was kind of inevitable.

    • @michaelzhang9806
      @michaelzhang9806 2 роки тому +48

      If you think about it, nobody in Metal Gear gets a “good” ending. They all have multiple bad things happen to them, especially losing family members.

    • @TheNapster153
      @TheNapster153 2 роки тому +91

      @@michaelzhang9806 The closest is really Solid Snake. He went through suffering his whole life until the same forces that binded him in the end set him free. Those last few months he had were probably the best ones of his life. No regrets needed.

    • @aeso3555
      @aeso3555 2 роки тому +19

      @@TheNapster153 Aside from losing Chico and her father, Amanda could count too since she achieved all of her objectives. Maybe even add Cecile too since she's probably the only one from Peace Walker who didn't suffer some horrific fate in GZ and PP.

  • @TotalTech2.
    @TotalTech2. 6 років тому +3102

    A scene to surpass metal gear

    • @TheCarlosCobain
      @TheCarlosCobain 5 років тому +50

      to surpass metal gear five, that's for sure....

    • @arctorusmedia
      @arctorusmedia 5 років тому +9

      It went on for way too long.

    • @HarleyLocal605
      @HarleyLocal605 5 років тому +17

      Not for the end of the game that was intended to be the last of the franchise.

    • @HarleyLocal605
      @HarleyLocal605 5 років тому +7

      @followerofyah Overall I would have to say Metal Gear Solid 3. It has the best balance of story, game design, controls, you name it. I have grown to really appreciate how relevant the story of 2 is though in today's society. Peace Walker is honestly a very tight 2nd though against 1, just because it was developed as a moblie game, and had so many extras and replayability. So 3, PW, followed by MGS would be the order. Had I played the true MG 1 and played MG 2, those might be in the running. How about you?

    • @danclay4033
      @danclay4033 5 років тому +6

      Mgs1 is legendary

  • @matodragonespor5000
    @matodragonespor5000 2 роки тому +630

    One of the things I'm surprised nobody talks about is Zero. I mean: Solid, Liquid, Solidus, Shadow Moses Incident, the Patriots IA, Arsenal Gear, War Economy and therefore the PMCs, FOXDIE, SOP... almost everything that happens in the story is his doing. Even the events of Rising are a consequence of his actions. The man is the main villain, was the most powerful man in the planet and he had the whole world in his hands for decades... but when we finally see him, we see a senile old man that doesn't even know where he is and needs a machine to not pee himself. It's like Ozymandias' poem...

  • @mambakuroii8125
    @mambakuroii8125 3 роки тому +831

    Big Boss looks pretty much like my old father which has passed away, he used to watch me playing in the ps1 era. I miss him so much. So many memories...Rest in peace and eternity Boss

    • @R3adyUp
      @R3adyUp 2 роки тому +25

      Same, old snake kind of reminds me of my father and he too passed away not too long ago :/

    • @atomnum9
      @atomnum9 2 роки тому +16

      I’m sorry for your guys’ loss

    • @lanius1076
      @lanius1076 2 роки тому +1

      o7

    • @Gun14Slinger
      @Gun14Slinger 2 роки тому +2

      I’m sorry to hear about your losses guys I hope they are resting peacefully and happy where ever they are.

  • @egeorgiades93
    @egeorgiades93 4 роки тому +615

    Let it go, my son.
    The fact that the Japanese VAs were father and son gives this much more meaning.

    • @soulgin3682
      @soulgin3682 3 роки тому +48

      And they had beef before doing this bit and making amends thanks to this seeing the jpn version some of the lines are more the real gut talk than scripted... honestly it hits harder for that but alone but the final bit when BB tells snake he’s no longer weapon, or tool, or proxy and is now free man in English hits like truck

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 3 роки тому

      😮

    • @yoshimallow
      @yoshimallow 3 роки тому +6

      Whoevers idea it was to bring those two back together deserves all the kindness it the world.

    • @soulgin3682
      @soulgin3682 3 роки тому +8

      @@yoshimallow His name is Kojima... Hideo kojima...

    • @ThatOneElfEnjoyer
      @ThatOneElfEnjoyer 3 роки тому +1

      @@soulgin3682 You mean Big Boss??😎

  • @Oakshield2
    @Oakshield2 4 роки тому +1054

    All I can hear is " I give my liiiiife, not for honor, but for youuuuu..."

  • @alshabib5849
    @alshabib5849 2 роки тому +138

    the thing that makes this extra special is that in the Japanese voice over, the VAs for Big Boss and Solid Snake were both father and son and they were both estranged to each other, this scene was the first time they had spoken to each other in years in real life.

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 роки тому

      Shut up we all know

    • @schumeliernst8060
      @schumeliernst8060 Рік тому +3

      Wow

    • @Death_Korps_Officer
      @Death_Korps_Officer Рік тому +16

      And to add salt to the wound, the father died not long after this cutscene made. But in better terms since this moment reconcilie together.

  • @einjel315
    @einjel315 3 роки тому +2803

    "the world will be better off without snakes..."
    "this is good... isn't it?"
    truly, one of the most memorable final words in video game history, and from a Father to his "son", nay a comrade in arms - respected soldier, and man nonetheless

    • @colby4181
      @colby4181 3 роки тому +8

      Technically its to ones self. They're clones..

    • @reddttk6171
      @reddttk6171 3 роки тому +36

      @@colby4181 you definitely don’t know how clones work

    • @macmiller9510
      @macmiller9510 3 роки тому

      Think that forward was meant that is this game far enough good for you

    • @Valentfred
      @Valentfred 2 роки тому +2

      cry every time

    • @lukeytavares7128
      @lukeytavares7128 2 роки тому +6

      @@colby4181 not really. they (liquid and solid snake) are sons/clones of Big Boss and Eva.

  • @SirHellNaja
    @SirHellNaja 4 роки тому +880

    "Or should I call you BROTHER?"
    "What? LIQUIDDDDDD"

    • @Uselessmouth12
      @Uselessmouth12 4 роки тому +58

      SirHell SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

    • @RED01SEA
      @RED01SEA 4 роки тому +13

      @@Uselessmouth12 psycho mantis !!

    • @ishashka
      @ishashka 3 роки тому +23

      YOU'RE THAT NINJA!

    • @kwarlus
      @kwarlus 3 роки тому +15

      I AM SHALASHASKA

    • @mihterio9137
      @mihterio9137 3 роки тому +2

      LAUGH AND GROWN FAT

  • @papermachevolcano1480
    @papermachevolcano1480 3 роки тому +1210

    "This is good, Isn't it?"
    Yes Kojima, don't doubt about it. Everything you did was good.

    • @keynanmartinez
      @keynanmartinez 2 роки тому +24

      He Created A Masterpiece.

    • @DaBellOfDaBeets
      @DaBellOfDaBeets 2 роки тому +29

      Except for dropping David Hayter for some random celebrity. Kojima didnt care about the fans. Only cared about his hollywood fetish and telling a complicated ass story.

    • @ryplay2554
      @ryplay2554 2 роки тому +5

      @@DaBellOfDaBeets Yes.

    • @yukisohma19
      @yukisohma19 2 роки тому +4

      @@DaBellOfDaBeets you missed the point

    • @Mazen1999MA
      @Mazen1999MA 2 роки тому +14

      @@DaBellOfDaBeets "didn't care about the fans" joke of the century

  • @sectortv3835
    @sectortv3835 2 роки тому +387

    Snake isn't very expressive,but you can still tell he wanted to cry throughout this whole video

    • @rcslyman8929
      @rcslyman8929 2 роки тому +81

      He would have, but he doesn't have any more tears to shed.

    • @The_beast_master
      @The_beast_master 3 місяці тому

      ​@@rcslyman8929 if I saw correct he wanted to shed tears when it was Big Boss last message to him if I'm correct.

  • @alexdeghost2729
    @alexdeghost2729 4 роки тому +844

    IMO This is when Jack really earned the title of Big Boss. He has always been a very *very* inspirational person. But this time he inspires his son to stop the fighting and to live in peace.

    • @SimoneCalloni
      @SimoneCalloni 3 роки тому +96

      Up to this point, he never truly surpassed the Boss, since he didn't understand his purpose to the end. When he says: "The world only needs one snake... No, the world would actually be better without snakes", well this is the moment when he surpasses The Boss, really earning his title.

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 3 роки тому +73

      @@SimoneCalloni Yup. I also love the symbolism in this series. Like Venom Snake represents the embodiment of Big Boss’s demons while Solid Snake represents the man Big Boss aspires to be as well as the embodiment of The Boss’s will.

    • @SimoneCalloni
      @SimoneCalloni 3 роки тому

      @@alexdeghost2729 I totally agree.

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 3 роки тому +4

      @@SimoneCalloni omg u agree that Venom became a deluded lunatic? :D

    • @aeso3555
      @aeso3555 2 роки тому +18

      @@SimoneCalloni It was kind unfair for the world to dump the Boss's will on Jack and expect him to follow it to the letter. And the Boss herself isn't exactly free of faults either. In the end, he became his own person and chose his own ideals to follow whether they were good or bad.

  • @JyujinPlus
    @JyujinPlus 4 роки тому +588

    I took theatre in high school, and our final was to perform a monologue in front of our class. Pulling from plays dating from Shakespeare to Williams, the monologues we performed generally ranged from three minutes to eight minutes.
    And it’s why I so greatly appreciate monologues like this so much. That their writers can keep the audience entranced on one person talking for twenty or thirty minutes.
    The Snake Eater Epilogue, Briefing Tape: The Boss, Naked Son, and Free Churro are god tier monologues that display such phenomenal writing talent. It’s such a raw and in depth look at a person and philosophy to hear them talk for upwards of ten minutes. I’ll never get tired of listening to these, quoting them, and spending entire evenings listening to people talk.

    • @JyujinPlus
      @JyujinPlus 3 роки тому +5

      @QUEENDOM I don’t know if I entirely agree, but I see your point. I think Big Boss repeats himself once or twice when talking about how the Patriot AIs evolved but I do think that it was necessary to elaborate.
      But my real problem is that I played this game with the context of twenty years of games, and it’s hard to separate myself from my emotional attachment to these games and my knowledge of the context. I’m biased, and it’s hard to see this without context because I’m so attached to the context.

    • @GenocidalSquid
      @GenocidalSquid 2 роки тому +1

      That’s something I’ve yearned to do- to voice in a performance I dreamed of..

    • @stinkystealthysloth
      @stinkystealthysloth 2 роки тому

      I found this monologue to be excruciatingly tedious tbh, the heaving and moaning is hard to listen to for 20+ minutes

  • @ayuchanayuko
    @ayuchanayuko 5 років тому +874

    Kojima has always been a cinematic director, look how he made you watch 30mins of ONE scene and time just flew. And then we have that cinematic Death Stranding trailer too! Salute

    • @N._99
      @N._99 5 років тому +34

      Kojima is one beautiful son of a bitch... I feel bad for the future generations that won't know what it was like to play these games as they came and went. To feel the anger for Konami and to feel loss with MG:S. And to feel excitement for Death Stranding. I can't wait to see what Kojima has in store for us.

    • @obidahasdia4095
      @obidahasdia4095 5 років тому +1

      @@N._99 they makin MGS 6 without Kojima

    • @Takisgr07
      @Takisgr07 5 років тому +6

      @@obidahasdia4095 He was never alone in the development of MGS..its just sad that people dickride kojima so hard when we are this close at death stranding and still know nothing. meh

    • @ecogo4424
      @ecogo4424 4 роки тому

      True 😥

    • @r.c.christian4633
      @r.c.christian4633 4 роки тому +1

      WTF they are really making MGS6?! FUCK KONAMI!

  • @Revist92
    @Revist92 2 роки тому +84

    >kill dying old man
    >epic music start playing

  • @emjaiz
    @emjaiz 5 років тому +1521

    If video games had an Oscar category, this scene alone would have won.

    • @airflu8391
      @airflu8391 5 років тому +44

      @His Boss Is Bigmgsv didnt win game of the year it won soundtrack of the year lmao

    • @bullet996
      @bullet996 4 роки тому +18

      @@airflu8391 which sound track? The woah hooo one?

    • @sorieketon4813
      @sorieketon4813 4 роки тому +23

      Oscars are garbage tho
      this scene deserves something better

    • @MrManueldx
      @MrManueldx 4 роки тому +5

      @@bullet996 IM NUCLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

    • @skylertremblay3395
      @skylertremblay3395 4 роки тому

      @General Dritz nah fam witcher won goty

  • @angeleaterstudios1004
    @angeleaterstudios1004 4 роки тому +539

    It breaks my heart how he salutes her grave. The look in his face and the whole context of his life and actions scream "I did it all for you."

    • @redsphinx113
      @redsphinx113 3 роки тому +62

      "Not for honour, but for you."

    • @buttlickerking2208
      @buttlickerking2208 3 роки тому +11

      He didn’t tho everything big boss did was to oppose the boss. He says at the end of peace walker that she gave up and accepted death and accepted being a pawn of the government and vowed to never do the same

    • @sirisaacclarke4964
      @sirisaacclarke4964 3 роки тому +4

      And totally misunderstood her, bet the boss is completely disappointed.

    • @DaScorpionSting
      @DaScorpionSting 3 роки тому +23

      @@sirisaacclarke4964 That’s why he told Solid Snake if he was in his place back then, maybe he wouldn’t have made the same mistakes he did

    • @shanedaley6236
      @shanedaley6236 3 роки тому +1

      Ya this shows that he actually now understands what the boss wanted this might not have been according to his original plan but his fight to honor her is complete

  • @raiden1395
    @raiden1395 4 роки тому +566

    It’s my head canon that when Big Boss passes away, he is reunited with Zero and that he learns that Zero never meant for any of the things in Ground Zero and beyond. Then the two of them let go of all the bad blood and hatred and forgive each other, reuniting with Para-Medic, Sigint, Eva, Ocelot and The Boss. (Other characters like Miller, Venom and Paz will get their own moment with Big Boss)

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 роки тому +30

      We can but hope. Otherwise he can never be fully free of the meme that made him into a soldier and a weapon... that began replicating.

    • @songoku9348
      @songoku9348 4 роки тому +15

      It’s up to you now Raiden. You must over Snake’s place.

    • @d3fyne
      @d3fyne 4 роки тому +19

      Zero had nothing to do with the events of ground zeroes and V. It was purely Skullface's doing since he went rouge form Cipher with his XOF squad and wanted to get Zero's attention by killing the one man Zero was actually fond of.
      If Zero had his sights at Big Boss he would never let him run Foxhound later on. Or to be alive at all in that matter.
      Zero along with Ocelot actually helped the real Big Boss with his cover identity and Venom double in the events of V.

    • @raiden1395
      @raiden1395 4 роки тому +21

      @@d3fyne but Big Boss didn’t know that. He stated to Solid Snake at the end of MGS4. “Did Zero really hate me? Or... Did he fear me?”

    • @raiden1395
      @raiden1395 4 роки тому +22

      @@d3fyne but because Big Boss was put into a coma and Zero being hospitalised by Skullface’s parasites Big Boss never learnt the truth. Too him he had just woken up from a coma and Zero had disappeared completely without trace.

  • @manea7074
    @manea7074 5 років тому +2234

    MGS 4 was way ahead of it's time.

  • @FlowerKnight2
    @FlowerKnight2 4 роки тому +447

    "Ever since I killed the boss with my own hands, I was already dead" that part always got me.

    • @snakota
      @snakota 2 роки тому +14

      When I played MGS3 for the first time, I've waited for solid ten minutes because I didn't want to shoot her.

    • @sgtyoshid3th503
      @sgtyoshid3th503 2 роки тому +1

      This is a fuckin major ass mood

    • @MrFunkhauser
      @MrFunkhauser 2 роки тому +5

      Yea nothing but death and destruction followed him once he became Big Boss

  • @Jacob-ir6zi
    @Jacob-ir6zi 5 років тому +776

    Snake and Boss sound different because Boss actually had the years for his voice to develop where as snake's body aged rapidly but his voice hadn't been used enough to become that

    • @DanielZ5
      @DanielZ5 5 років тому +108

      That and ... Konami/kojima ain't cutting two checks for hayter 😅

    • @dare_he_is
      @dare_he_is 5 років тому +4

      @@DanielZ5 I heard Hayter was a dick and whined a lot.

    • @rorisang8602
      @rorisang8602 5 років тому +8

      That doesn't make sense dude. so everything aged except his voice. that's bullshit.

    • @Bacxaber
      @Bacxaber 5 років тому +58

      @Rorisang
      Age =/= natural development of cords

    • @Hafer_
      @Hafer_ 5 років тому +53

      @@rorisang8602 Big Boss used his vocal cords for much longer than Solid, your voice does change with the years but it has nothing to do with age in this case.

  • @littleaqua32
    @littleaqua32 2 роки тому +218

    So according to Big Boss, Ocelot was never possessed by Liquid’s right arm, he just used hypnotic suggestion to make himself think he was possessed. That actually makes more sense than being possessed by Liquid’s arm tbh

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 роки тому +5

      Except for when he had Liquid’s voice

    • @littleaqua32
      @littleaqua32 2 роки тому +70

      @@HistoryandReviews Ocelot is a very convincing actor

    • @tgtterrorizor3407
      @tgtterrorizor3407 Рік тому +21

      ​@@HistoryandReviews The nanomachines may have something to do with his voice changing up like that, augmenting his vocal cords to make him sound completely different. At least, that's what I think.

    • @SteveCrafts2k
      @SteveCrafts2k Рік тому +10

      He was possessed in 2 (implied to be due to inheriting some of The Sorrow's power). But because of how much trouble it was, he cut his arm off, and then replaced it with an identical prosthetic.

    • @mist12345678910
      @mist12345678910 4 місяці тому

      It's called very horrible writing and fixed with retconning

  • @theoz-zone7470
    @theoz-zone7470 5 років тому +793

    This franchise had it's ups & downs but it was altogether legendary. It's been an honor Big Boss, Godspeed.

    • @theoz-zone7470
      @theoz-zone7470 5 років тому +17

      @Pure Fun Replacing David Hayter with Keifer Southerland is one down

    • @theoz-zone7470
      @theoz-zone7470 5 років тому +6

      @Pure Fun U got a point but in my humble opinion, I saw it as a down at the time but perhaps ur right it's just one bad choice.

    • @li_la9399
      @li_la9399 5 років тому +7

      @@theoz-zone7470 lol. Imagine david hayter voicing mg5 snake. Its awful. Doesnt fit the matured appearance of big boss compared to keifer. Like fuck it. Doesmt quite match the atmosphere. Accept it gays. Its kojimas and it has it ups and downs. Idiots

    • @trashsombra2793
      @trashsombra2793 5 років тому

      more the whole seris is trash

    • @4skintim962
      @4skintim962 5 років тому +4

      Black dolophin your spelling is trash

  • @EDWARD6661989
    @EDWARD6661989 5 років тому +1855

    This is good.......... isn't it?
    Engage manly tears.

    • @interpolkillersfan93
      @interpolkillersfan93 5 років тому +25

      eMOTION gEAR

    • @perfect.stealth
      @perfect.stealth 5 років тому +19

      By the name of God. That line can make me break because I remember this scene every time. So fkn sad

    • @raymondmontilla4497
      @raymondmontilla4497 5 років тому +9

      Truly, no game has given me the feels that Metal Gear Solid 4 gave me.

    • @Eyeoftheshadows
      @Eyeoftheshadows 5 років тому +7

      Bruh first time I watched this cutscene I bawled like a bitch

    • @pastorsarahmurphy2993
      @pastorsarahmurphy2993 4 роки тому +8

      20:47
      To this day that moment always makes me tear up. A whole fucking decade later.

  • @icy3-1
    @icy3-1 5 років тому +1735

    Father- Big Boss
    Inferior Clone/Son- Solid Snake
    Superior Clone/Son- Liquid Snake
    Perfect Clone- Solidus Snake

    • @icy3-1
      @icy3-1 5 років тому +239

      *It's not about changing the world; it's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is. It's about respecting the will of others, and believing in your own.*

    • @ketch117-2
      @ketch117-2 4 роки тому +227

      And yet the man that was closest to him wasn't related at all - an entirely unrelated army medic. Just one reason why five is awesomely subversive.

    • @gustarddonut1452
      @gustarddonut1452 4 роки тому +50

      I thought liquid got all the recessive genes, wouldn’t that make him inferior?

    • @whiteway2486
      @whiteway2486 4 роки тому +30

      @@gustarddonut1452 no Solid Snake got them

    • @Bootsingkats
      @Bootsingkats 4 роки тому +88

      @White Way, within MGS1; it canonically states that Liquid Snake received all the recessive genetics. You can find it in a cutscene between Solid and Liquid Snake.

  • @DCodedCrusader
    @DCodedCrusader 2 роки тому +149

    "How could you still be alive?"
    *"NANOMACHINES, S O N."*

  • @comedyincarnate2209
    @comedyincarnate2209 4 роки тому +724

    The men who did these are Japanese, and they were Father and Son, and had a fall out that lasted years, and they made up, because of this scene

    • @WhoCares-wt7wi
      @WhoCares-wt7wi 3 роки тому +78

      Metal Gear was a powerful thing, sadly all good games die out. The bad ones live long enough to become pay to win money schemes (CoD)

    • @asv520
      @asv520 3 роки тому +10

      @@WhoCares-wt7wi exactly

    • @realgamergirl4638
      @realgamergirl4638 3 роки тому +38

      @@WhoCares-wt7wi hitman is still staying true to its roots as the last old sneak em up

    • @excitedcat9517
      @excitedcat9517 3 роки тому +28

      @@WhoCares-wt7wi
      But that's the best part tho
      Games like mgs wont be forgotten,
      Games like the ones you describe will,
      Nobody will really remember the plot or characters of those "new" games
      Not really, just mindless shooting with no purpose and that's all they'll ever be.
      Here to old and new players to come they'll discover a diamond.
      Sure those companies will just pump out those games just for a quick buck and it's mighty buck they have
      But these games are different. MGS is different.
      They tried but failed because this isn't the type of game for that and it never will be.
      Mgs won't be remembered for just the shooting but for so much more,
      While those games will be reduced to zero.
      So in a morbid way even if these games die out they'll never be forgotten,
      While the other tries to desperately survive clinging onto any garbage they can grab onto...
      All games die but those few good ones live on.

    • @bobkys7916
      @bobkys7916 3 роки тому +2

      @@excitedcat9517 calm down bruh its just a game

  • @tzeentchnco.7441
    @tzeentchnco.7441 5 років тому +492

    Note at the start. Big Boss has the same gun that the Boss from MSG3 was using when you fought her. And if you look on the background you see white flowers just like the ones during your fight with Boss in MSG3.

    • @adwait613
      @adwait613 4 роки тому +16

      That Gun Was Specially Made For The Boss and That Gun Has Over a 100 Rounds In It and Basically The Boss Used a Mini Machine Gun as a *SIDEARM.*
      A Frickin *SIDEARM!*
      God...She was an Absolute Badass💯

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 4 роки тому +13

      @HallucinogenicMac MGS was never about realism, the info page for the Patriot in MGS3 even says it has unlimited ammo because its magazine has the shape of the unlimited sign. If you call Sigint about it, he tells you that its a modified M16 with a short barrel. Sigint will be very surprised that Boss could handle the kick in full auto with a single arm.

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 4 роки тому +9

      @HallucinogenicMac Yes, i didnt meant MGS was totally unrealistic. Thats just Kojimas charm, its realistic, but not to the degree of a wannabe Call Of Duty War Simulation.
      Its just enough unrealistic nonsense that its amazing. As far as i remember, Kojima had a military adviser and soldiers to help with the accuracy of gun facts, movement, tactics etc

    • @CODA96
      @CODA96 4 роки тому +8

      @HallucinogenicMac He had, after every MGS you can see it in the credits. Funnily enough, if you google ''MGS Military adviser'' you get this:
      ''Tomoaki Iishiba
      Konami's military technical advisor has been incarcerated for selling military weapons to Japan. Metal Gear Solid 4 military consultant Tomoaki Iishiba is under investigation for selling night-vision firearm scopes from America to conspirators in Japan.''

    • @TrumonicTrav
      @TrumonicTrav 4 роки тому +1

      That flower effect is the boss from the grave. The sorrow did it too. That's an incredible bond

  • @gomezgoblin3114
    @gomezgoblin3114 4 роки тому +277

    25:33 i want to really point out the emotion you rarely see from Solid Snake. His eyes showed humanity in that moment along with acceptance of his Destiny and his remaining time left on earth. He finally made peace with his father and former enemy. This part speaks to me and makes me tear up each time this scene plays. "There is no such thing as an absolute enemy."- The Boss

  • @ezergilechimekazikura6855
    @ezergilechimekazikura6855 2 роки тому +274

    My guys, I think Big Boss asked Solid about the taste of the cigarr, because the man just smoked it for him. Which makes this moment ever more heartwarming, since not only he left Solid with his main message to live and enjoy life, as far as his body allows him to remain on earth, but in his final moment he shares a smoke and calls back to Solid to reflect on the taste of it. The smallest thing in the gravity of the moment, to which he gravitates Solid's attention from all the nonsence that finally ended with Big Boss.

    • @brettzforeman
      @brettzforeman 2 роки тому +34

      It's also symbolic of their impending mortality. He makes time for one last drag, then remarks to Snake that it's good. He's telling Snake not to let his rapidly advancing age stop him from enjoying the short retirement he's earned. He's telling him to go be something other than a soldier, for what time he has. That his life is something he should smoke while he's still got it.

    • @redstretchy4061
      @redstretchy4061 Рік тому +10

      @@brettzforeman "Don't waste the life you have left, fighting."

    • @jacklee8467
      @jacklee8467 6 місяців тому

      Cigars stay lit because of the oxygen that are breathed into them, so he’s taking a puff to ensure that it stays lit so Big Boss can enjoy a last smoke

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper 5 років тому +872

    Gotta love how they totally take away every little sense of dignity Zero might have still had with the toilet flushing sound of his chair.

    • @sderrick68
      @sderrick68 5 років тому +15

      Lmao

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast 5 років тому +150

      That is also tragic, too. Zero's story may be not as tragic as The Boss' or others, but still helluva tragic nonetheless. The man himself misinterpreted The Boss' will and contributed in sending the world to hell, but in truth he never wanted it to be that way, as the AI's he had created to control the world basically malfunctioned. And he also tried to restore his friendship with Big Boss, going by the events in MGSV. It's unfortunate that Big Boss will never know because he was the one comatose at the time while Zero was fully conscious. So instead of rekindling their friendship and going out in peace with him, in the end Big Boss has to euthanize Zero out of pity but probably saw him as more of a villain than a hero in his last moments.

    • @TheEsdaniel
      @TheEsdaniel 4 роки тому +13

      @@Leadblast I never saw how zero or even big boss could become evil .... they are always shown as good people

    • @ethanhughes8602
      @ethanhughes8602 4 роки тому +63

      @@TheEsdaniel The road to hell is paved with good intentions? If that applies.

    • @BLAKDANGER
      @BLAKDANGER 4 роки тому +5

      I think it shows that no matter how much power you gain, your time will still come

  • @mr.chibiterasu2956
    @mr.chibiterasu2956 3 роки тому +504

    Really does suck that Snake’s cloning mixed with the nanomachines fucked him up, had he been allowed to live a life to be his gene-father’s age, then I think he would’ve truly been satisfied.

    • @ashleighchance9420
      @ashleighchance9420 3 роки тому +34

      But think about the possibility that he may be fighting with no end in sight. Pretty much just like Big Boss did.

    • @capybara9521
      @capybara9521 3 роки тому +2

      @@ashleighchance9420 bruh

    • @mina1975_
      @mina1975_ 2 роки тому +14

      Nanomachines, son.

    • @priestofronaldalt
      @priestofronaldalt 2 роки тому +1

      Then he'd be a prominent character in MGRR

    • @silverboltscrapper
      @silverboltscrapper 2 роки тому +14

      @@priestofronaldalt He almost was, his spirit was supposed to inhabit a wooden sword that would comment on Raiden's exceptional combat and give him pointers. It's still in the Japanese version of the game, but not in the international release.

  • @aaron-n
    @aaron-n 4 роки тому +1042

    Are we all just going to sit here and not talk about how Big Boss dragged a man who is over 100 years old who at this point poses no threat to anyone to a cemetery just to turn off his tank and kill him? First off, what retirement home did Big Boss have to break into and sneak around to steal old man Zero from? Can we please get some kind of mini-mission where we have to do this? Was it really necessary to kill Zero after all this time?

    • @littleguygaming6066
      @littleguygaming6066 4 роки тому +183

      1 becomes 2 2 becomes 10 10 becomes 100

    • @giovantherehabilitatingthi1214
      @giovantherehabilitatingthi1214 4 роки тому +188

      If he didn’t kill zero the proxies and the system would of kept repeating and propagating

    • @0Space_Cowboy0
      @0Space_Cowboy0 4 роки тому +317

      He didn't kill Zero Because he was evil or something. The killing, was an act of mercy.

    • @pablo_giustiniani
      @pablo_giustiniani 3 роки тому +107

      One last stealth mission

    • @ThatGuyKh1
      @ThatGuyKh1 3 роки тому +169

      He killed him to end his suffering not out of hatred or revenge but of pity

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 роки тому +75

    Years later, and he still knows the basics of CQC.
    Meanwhile, Solidus: *is missing eye on the completely opposite side*
    "So this is Big Boss, right?"
    "Yeah, probably."

    • @MAXXEXTERMINATION
      @MAXXEXTERMINATION 7 місяців тому

      Huh...never though u would be here in this old masterpiece of game....you must be an old dog too lol ❤

  • @MrFranklinz
    @MrFranklinz 4 роки тому +844

    "Let it go" with "It's time for you to put aside the gun and live" together have helped me a lot with many things. From getting away from toxic people, to worrying about the past, I remember these quotes to help myself not stay depressed/anxious over a certain situation.
    It's a fucking video game but hey, whatever works.

    • @ColonelCosmology
      @ColonelCosmology 3 роки тому +36

      There’s strength in the ability to let things go. Part of us wants so badly an explanation or resolution for fucked up things in the past that have happened to us. You can either struggle all your life to find an answer, or lay it to rest. It only exists in your memories

    • @TheMrCHELL
      @TheMrCHELL 3 роки тому +15

      It's art too.
      It's like saying a painting is just a fucking image made with ink.

    • @AlexAlex-jp2sp
      @AlexAlex-jp2sp 3 роки тому

      @Pantelis Tzimas I feel you brother.i still have the hate but I try to get rid of it cos I know it will destroy me in the end if I don't do that.thanks for the wise words brother!

    • @robinpimpin190
      @robinpimpin190 3 роки тому +6

      There’s wisdom to find in lots of media, be it books, movies, or videogames. The Metal Gear series even shaped me a bit growing up here and there. I’ll always be grateful for MGS3 because that game came out at just the right time in my life and it helped me through some shitty and dark moments.

    • @rohanbhuckory1297
      @rohanbhuckory1297 3 роки тому +3

      @Pantelis Tzimas you sounds like an incel, idk what you went through in life but having a strong hate or pity for “modern western women” in general is fucking stupid

  • @Yasser.Abuharba
    @Yasser.Abuharba 2 роки тому +776

    The way how Snake and Big boss calmly accepted the fact that Big boss was going away for good while Snake was holding his tears and trying to stay strong while seeing his father and last family member dying after making peace with him after long years and many battles is literally the most dramatic scene I’ve ever watched, you can’t script that, I was glad that things went well with Solid Snake at the end though, with living the rest of his life in peace.

    • @user-pi1lb4tf2f
      @user-pi1lb4tf2f Рік тому +12

      Snake already suffered so much with PTSD of killing Big Boss. When he killed Venom, he vowed to never use Cqc again out of remembering his mentor, when he killed Big Boss in MG2, he escaped and became an alcoholic. He never tried connecting with anyone until Meryl which failed along the way then comes Otacon who becomes his true bro. He is still suffering from his ptsd as shown when he always deploys himself with his bandana, the symbol of the Snakes passed down to him by Big Boss.

  • @drewmarshall4
    @drewmarshall4 5 років тому +272

    The longest death scene in gaming history, and damn worth every second!

    • @1ial691
      @1ial691 4 роки тому +2

      F.

    • @muhammadzamir2089
      @muhammadzamir2089 4 роки тому +2

      F

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 роки тому

      Hmm, maybe a FEW lines could have been shortened, but it is one of the most memorable...

    • @codyjos393
      @codyjos393 4 роки тому

      I guess you never played the first few assassins creed games

  • @thequestion8697
    @thequestion8697 2 роки тому +242

    I really like how smart the MGS fan base is.
    You guys use a lot of big words correctly when explaining stuff.

  • @grgspunk
    @grgspunk 5 років тому +271

    I'm so glad I got lazy and played this game AFTER playing Peace Walker and MGS5. It makes this scene all the more grand if you play the games in chronological order.

    • @brianforeman2518
      @brianforeman2518 4 роки тому

      So this big boss....is the same snake im playing with on MGS5 roght now? I beat this game on the hardest difficultly cause i love the challenge. It was good but this i guess is throwing me for a loop right now. Can someone help me with that real quick

    • @tiggytiger11
      @tiggytiger11 4 роки тому +4

      @@brianforeman2518 Just finish beating MGS5 my dude and enjoy

    • @bryinabrt
      @bryinabrt 4 роки тому +3

      @@brianforeman2518 Snake in MGSV is Venom/Punished Snake or Paramedic if you will

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 4 роки тому +4

      @@brianforeman2518
      Depends on which part of MGSV we are talking.
      If we are talking Ground Zeroes stuff which is the opening of Phantom Pain, then you are playing as Big Boss.
      After that though like MGS2, you DON'T play as Big Boss after the opening part. You are playing as Venom Snake, a copy of Big Boss...kinda. They used hypnotherapy and plastic surgery on MSF's medic whom happened to be their best soldier to be the new Big Boss. Meanwhile the real Big Boss is out there creating Zanzibar land and Venom Snake eventually creates Outer Heaven. Venom dies in Outer Heaven btw.

    • @bored9365
      @bored9365 4 роки тому

      Brian Foreman nope. That’s venom snake, not naked snake (the true big boss).

  • @ayuchanayuko
    @ayuchanayuko 5 років тому +809

    This is Pequod. Arriving shortly at LZ.
    On station at LZ. Just crying by...

    • @johnnymcclain4100
      @johnnymcclain4100 4 роки тому

      Ayu Natsume what does this have to do with the story tho?

    • @lukabogdanovic4658
      @lukabogdanovic4658 4 роки тому +30

      @@johnnymcclain4100 woooooosh

    • @Snake-pz6qj
      @Snake-pz6qj 4 роки тому +3

      luka bogdanovic why would you whoosh him if it wasn’t a joke

    • @lukabogdanovic4658
      @lukabogdanovic4658 4 роки тому +8

      @@Snake-pz6qj for me it was for you i dont know

    • @DrShemp-sv6gf
      @DrShemp-sv6gf 4 роки тому +1

      Lol well done 👌

  • @crimsonshade8125
    @crimsonshade8125 5 років тому +463

    Big Boss: It's all good between me and Zero
    *Pulls the plug*

    • @volteuss
      @volteuss 4 роки тому +20

      Deep in BB's heart: Remember the time you sent some cosplay hitman on Mother Base? Yeah....SIKE.

    • @adwait613
      @adwait613 4 роки тому +1

      Sweet Sweet Revenge 🤣

    • @1ial691
      @1ial691 4 роки тому +13

      Zero will eventually grow to 100. Big Boss had to reduce Zero to nothing in order to stop this cycle.

    • @youhaveayds8975
      @youhaveayds8975 3 роки тому

      @@1ial691 to be fair he was 105

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 роки тому

      @@volteuss
      "That's for Kaz and MSF, and Mother Base 1, and Chico, and Paz... You got the idea"

  • @aljoa2392
    @aljoa2392 Рік тому +99

    People forget just how profound this game felt in 2008. Along with GTA IV it felt like gaming was being perfected

    • @КорольЛегиона-ю8я
      @КорольЛегиона-ю8я 7 місяців тому +5

      И по итогу мы сейчас живëм в том будущем, где такого уже нет, и вряд ли когда либо будет. Это печалит.

    • @pepomega
      @pepomega 4 місяці тому +1

      just story wise, gameplay wise neither of these two games are examples of great gameplay.

  • @NinjaKuma
    @NinjaKuma 5 років тому +1220

    She was a true.... patriot

    • @Russman25123
      @Russman25123 5 років тому +81

      Yes, she was a true La Li Lu Le Lo

    • @DeltaBear22
      @DeltaBear22 5 років тому +21

      The boss no one can do wht she did she's one of a kind

    • @aurora0023
      @aurora0023 5 років тому +59

      I love how in MGS3 when he stands at her grave and you switch to ego perspective you can see his vision is blurry with tears...
      So touching

    • @WeezaY5000
      @WeezaY5000 5 років тому +14

      MGS3 is the only video game to actually make me shed a tear. Most movies don't even do that to me.

    • @redthewifeyhunter4034
      @redthewifeyhunter4034 4 роки тому +6

      @@aurora0023 thats because Snake knew her all his life, unlike anyone else

  • @mohammadhussien5223
    @mohammadhussien5223 3 роки тому +841

    Man Big boss and Arthur Morgan deaths breaks me to pieces.

    • @mohammadhussien5223
      @mohammadhussien5223 3 роки тому +16

      @Robo Jesus you should have added "at least".

    • @demochris1786
      @demochris1786 2 роки тому

      @Alfred Pennyworth Big Boss doesn't go by snake anymore remember

    • @demochris1786
      @demochris1786 2 роки тому

      @Alfred Pennyworth honestly I have to agree, it doesn't matter which name they go with once a snake always a snake

    • @Big-BossX
      @Big-BossX Рік тому +5

      Just a personal opinion but: we saw arthurs death coming from a mile away but johns was so sudden and shocking that one was much more impactful to me

    • @ssk58607
      @ssk58607 Рік тому

      @@Big-BossX True but John was a hero of rdr1 while Arthur seemed like a ruthless gangster with no values in the beginning. He slowly turns into a hero as his idol Dutch turns into a villain, and that execution was perfect imo though I don't think the whole game was a masterpiece particularly