“If it makes you happy and brings you joy and makes you want to go out and do things” (not word for word). This really spoke to me! I love the look of so many bags but it has to speak to me this way for me to really feel good about purchasing it. Thank you for the video!
Good balanced analysis in here man. That grey blue is a pretty sweet combo. I tried to return to 1000d but I just cannot get over how much better a robic GR1 works comparatively. The main compartment and front slash are miles easier to use, I like the less boxy look and the way the fabric sits, light, no lint and easy to clean. This all probably changes if you’ve got a well broken in 1000d I imagine though. I do worry about abrasion and mild things that wouldn’t be scars worthy, I’m sure they’d cover any major failure, but so far it’s been great. I miss the webbing utility a little too. Ultimately though it’s just so cool to have all these options and QAP showing up everywhere, they are firing over there. Very hard to choose if you’re trying to only keep ONE GR1.
So my robic 21L came in last night and I was torn for the same reasons. I love the earth color, BUT… it was hard to put into words except to say that the Robic seems to eliminate everything that makes a GORUCK what it is. The not standing up on its own was the last straw. It's going back today.
First, thanks for this sweet vid. So I have the 21 ripstop/robic in black and in walnut heritage as well as the GR2/26in blue heritage and GR2/40 in slick black, tbh I love the GR1/21 ripstop for travel, slides very easily under plane seats, lighter and does not garner dirt and hair, it’s my dedicated travel Goruck bag, that said it’s slick enough that sternum strap for sure needed, and seems to fray a lot more than my old and trusty Radio
Per gorucks website, the speed grey has the all robic back panel and straps where as the earth color for example has the normal 210D for the back panel and straps. Which material do you find to be most comfortable for the straps and back panel?
I had questions about Robics durability and Peter from ULA put my mind to ease. They’ve been making robic hiking packs for years and they can attest to years of use and durability. 🤷🏽♂️
I don't really question the outright durability and I think for almost everyone any of these bags will be durable enough...plus there's always SCARS. But comparing them to each other...now that's a drag test!
@@JBOutside1do you think maybe you’re not having many issues cuz they are doing better quality control checks given your review channel? I just bought a kit bag in robic but having second guesses cuz I’m seeing people talk about qc.
Ripstop is such an unknown quantity to me. I've been looking for a slightly smaller and lighter replacement for my trusty Camelbak Linchpin (bring it back in civilian colors and features!) now that I'm just a normal dad and being cool is in the past. I've only had Cordura packs in my adult life, almost all of them, whether issued or bought, being from Mystery Ranch. I really like the features of the NoSurrenderGear Paradigm but being made entirely out of 420D ripstop is giving me so much hesitation. The lack of reviews is also an issue because there's no one who can address build quality and durability.
@@JBOutside1 Agreed. I've been on the hunt for a Huckberry Slick for a while and I was so close to pulling the trigger on this one. I'll hold off...for now lol
@JBOutside1 thank you for your reply, yea I hope they come out with a heritage bullet laptop. That would be my perfect bag. I don't see why they wouldn't do it since they already added a laptop version to the regular bullet
@@JBOutside1 plate security? Is the laptop compartment loose or larger than normal a standard 30lbs plate should fit perfectly inside the laptop compartment
@@r331_is2 All true...and I've discussed plate compatability before. But I don't have the taller 30lb plate...just a 20lb. And even with the height solved it still moves side to side. Either way, the rucker still holds everything best...plus the lumbar pad. In the end it will work...I just don't plan to do the test at the moment.
You asked “how much can it hold?” A great video would be a stress test to see if the GR1s with a quick access pocket can hold the same weight of one without a QAP. I predict the zippers breaking with significant weight.
“If it makes you happy and brings you joy and makes you want to go out and do things” (not word for word). This really spoke to me! I love the look of so many bags but it has to speak to me this way for me to really feel good about purchasing it. Thank you for the video!
Absolutely!!
Definitely do a road drag test. So many people want to know how the durability holds up with robic. And I haven’t seen anyone else test it.
Just might!!
Robic is a tough form of nylon but it's still below Cordura brand 6,6 plus this is rip stop so don't expect it to perform like the Cordura bag.
Good balanced analysis in here man. That grey blue is a pretty sweet combo.
I tried to return to 1000d but I just cannot get over how much better a robic GR1 works comparatively. The main compartment and front slash are miles easier to use, I like the less boxy look and the way the fabric sits, light, no lint and easy to clean. This all probably changes if you’ve got a well broken in 1000d I imagine though. I do worry about abrasion and mild things that wouldn’t be scars worthy, I’m sure they’d cover any major failure, but so far it’s been great. I miss the webbing utility a little too.
Ultimately though it’s just so cool to have all these options and QAP showing up everywhere, they are firing over there. Very hard to choose if you’re trying to only keep ONE GR1.
Awesome! Thanks for giving your real world experience. Glad you’re loving it!
I was in pouring rain with my Robic M23 and the contents inside the bag was perfectly fine. No water got in. FyI Great videos. Keep it up👍
Good to know! Thanks!! 👊🏻
So my robic 21L came in last night and I was torn for the same reasons. I love the earth color, BUT… it was hard to put into words except to say that the Robic seems to eliminate everything that makes a GORUCK what it is. The not standing up on its own was the last straw. It's going back today.
I can see that...and I agree
First, thanks for this sweet vid. So I have the 21 ripstop/robic in black and in walnut heritage as well as the GR2/26in blue heritage and GR2/40 in slick black, tbh I love the GR1/21 ripstop for travel, slides very easily under plane seats, lighter and does not garner dirt and hair, it’s my dedicated travel Goruck bag, that said it’s slick enough that sternum strap for sure needed, and seems to fray a lot more than my old and trusty Radio
Good stuff! Thanks for the real-world feedback.
What would be great is a video comparing “lightweight” options. (Robic v Dyneema v Kaiden etc…). BTW, vídeo was super helpful.
Great suggestion! I'd have to definitely talk "crinkle factor" then!
@@JBOutside1 it’s all about the crinkle! lol.
I agree with you - the Robic works best in a Bullet. Love my Bullet DC16.
Me too!
Outtakes for the win! Love the colour.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Per gorucks website, the speed grey has the all robic back panel and straps where as the earth color for example has the normal 210D for the back panel and straps. Which material do you find to be most comfortable for the straps and back panel?
Both great. Can’t say one is any more comfortable compared to the other. Get the color you like best.
@ Thanks man!
@ So in theory, a robic with a 210 back should feel and carry the same as a Cordrua 1000D bag right?
Would you go with a 21L GR1 ripstop or standard M23? Which is better for rucking?
Both awesome obviously and both the same for rucking. M23 comes with a sternum strap. Material choice is mostly personal
How much faster can you walk with the speed gray?
Ah, great question. The coefficient of friction shaves .00000001 seconds off my 1/4 mile time (but mostly the color just makes you LOOK faster)
I'm glad I held back on buying a ripstop, I found a gr1 slick on eBay and I love it. Regular gr1 ones have quick access pocket now I think.
Very nice! Yes, they’re releasing all the travel versions with that pocket…finally!!
I had questions about Robics durability and Peter from ULA put my mind to ease. They’ve been making robic hiking packs for years and they can attest to years of use and durability. 🤷🏽♂️
I don't really question the outright durability and I think for almost everyone any of these bags will be durable enough...plus there's always SCARS. But comparing them to each other...now that's a drag test!
@@JBOutside1 it hurts to see but it must be done 🤣
Great video. How do you like the Robic vs Dyneema? How about the weigh difference?
I’d say weight difference feels negligible. I prefer the Dyneema at the moment
Thank you!
It would be great if you tested all remaining materials on GoRuck's bags behind your truck for a comparison. Ripstop, Ultra, Waxed Canvas, etc.
I might cry if I had to drag the ultra...
@@JBOutside1 crowdsource the money to do the test?
I returned 3 gr1 robics because the stitching was so abysmal. I’m talking way more than some loose threads. I’ll never buy a GR bag again.
ok, that's odd. I haven't had any problems with stitching
Same here, stitching was abysmal. I'm not satisfied with how they do their qc..
@@JBOutside1do you think maybe you’re not having many issues cuz they are doing better quality control checks given your review channel? I just bought a kit bag in robic but having second guesses cuz I’m seeing people talk about qc.
Ripstop is such an unknown quantity to me. I've been looking for a slightly smaller and lighter replacement for my trusty Camelbak Linchpin (bring it back in civilian colors and features!) now that I'm just a normal dad and being cool is in the past. I've only had Cordura packs in my adult life, almost all of them, whether issued or bought, being from Mystery Ranch. I really like the features of the NoSurrenderGear Paradigm but being made entirely out of 420D ripstop is giving me so much hesitation. The lack of reviews is also an issue because there's no one who can address build quality and durability.
I really do need to drag the ripstop....
Thanks for answering my question!
Any time! Thanks for asking it! The questions have really made my last few videos a lot better...I think at least.
@@JBOutside1 Agreed. I've been on the hunt for a Huckberry Slick for a while and I was so close to pulling the trigger on this one. I'll hold off...for now lol
Is this robic material as durable as vx42? Since they both are 420d on the outside.
Tough to say without a drag test...😜
How does the GORUCK Ripstop ROBIC GR1 compare in weight to the Kaidan 3.0? Which is truly the lightest GR1 ?
Sorry, traveling at the moment. Be a few days before I can get numbers. My gut says robic is lighter
@@JBOutside1 Which is lighter? Also which is lighter the GR1 Robic or the GR1 Dyneema?
Do you know if GORUCK is going to come out with new bullet heritages? or even some with a laptop compartment?
I haven’t heard of any new bullets at the moment. And I’ve been asking for a laptop heritage bullet for a while!
@JBOutside1 thank you for your reply, yea I hope they come out with a heritage bullet laptop. That would be my perfect bag. I don't see why they wouldn't do it since they already added a laptop version to the regular bullet
Are these event worthy?Why don’t you event test? Sign up for a Tough or heavy event and then do a follow up video
Good idea, but the plate security is the biggest problem
@@JBOutside1 plate security? Is the laptop compartment loose or larger than normal a standard 30lbs plate should fit perfectly inside the laptop compartment
Unless you are using expert/rucker plates you’d should be fine
@@r331_is2 All true...and I've discussed plate compatability before. But I don't have the taller 30lb plate...just a 20lb. And even with the height solved it still moves side to side. Either way, the rucker still holds everything best...plus the lumbar pad. In the end it will work...I just don't plan to do the test at the moment.
GR1 Robic vs GR1 Dyneema?
Me personally: dyneema or ultra. But they feel of them is way different
Drag it.. ..for science…
Just might...😜...for science
so glad i waited for codura M23, love it
Nice!!
No 5. Purpose.
👊🏻
want that grey strap😂
Link in the description...it's on Amazon
You asked “how much can it hold?”
A great video would be a stress test to see if the GR1s with a quick access pocket can hold the same weight of one without a QAP. I predict the zippers breaking with significant weight.
I agree but I also think the weight total would be unrealistic for normal carry
I wanted to see the bag , not a dumbo guy walking
Thanks for watching! -Dumbo Guy
Thank for answering my questions brother! Full 1000D is it 🤣🫣🫣👌
You bet! Nice shot of the Sony!
@@JBOutside1 legend brother 👌 thank You