Honda Civic Type R (FK8) FREE Suspension MOD | Get more CAMBER with this SIMPLE TRICK!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Getting a little bit more negative camber is a great way to improve the handling of a FWD (Front Wheel Drive) car. In the case of the Honda Civic Type R (FK8) there is a FREE way to increase negative camber up to -1.8 degrees by doing THIS ONE MOD!
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🙏🏻👍🏽🚘🚙Gato another awesome and informative video!! I have enjoyed this channel for a couple years now and have loved every minute of it!!! I also appreciate how interactive and engaged you are with your subscribers and viewers!! Have a great Easter weekend Gato and God bless ya brother!! I look forward to the next video!!!🙏🏻🚙🚘🙏🏻
When I added a strut tower and remover the bolts the tower popped like you described. I thought I F’d something up but I guess I unknowingly just gave myself negative camber 🙌🏼
Also works on 9th gen Accord. Thanks!
Thanks for the info!! Question.... What are the specs to your wheels? I also have a CTR 2019 and recently requested for a quote for 18" wheels from an online wheel company and they recommended not to downsize due to the possibility of not having enough clearance. I'm assuming they are referring to the Brembo set up. Much like yourself and many, many CTR owners on UA-cam, you have all downsized your wheels (everyone I've seen has 18's). Not once have i heard someone say they had clearance issues. Your help and guidance will be greatly appreciated!!
I will be doing the E-40 hondata tune with the ethanol sensor here soon and you should get the traction control update not sure if ktuner has one but it's amazing for hondata
So cool great job nice
great,I learned.
do you have springs with this or can it only be done by stock springs/suspension
Hi, will be a way to revert back to stock? I bought a Type R with this modification and the car cannot get alignment. Tried talking to Honda and want to charge $350 in parts and $400 of labor to put a screw?! Do you remember what type of screw is? And do I have remove the strut to put it back in? Any help will be much appreciated! Thanks
Nice brother
Can I do this to my sport?😅
What’s the torque specs on those Gato?
How much neg camber did it provide you?
Let's give it some race stance
Should get 4 wheel alignmnent done.
Still not seen what these a are set up to from factory or after the camber Mod
Would be interesting to see as it is one of the best handling cars how it is set up
Also is there a camber kit for the back also .
My Ep3 vastly improved after camber kits as from factory not enough camber and also not much castor on front but can get used to that
If it's for a weekend track send nah but if u wanna drive on the street then u probably should but I would return back to original location if u can get thread's to screw back in
Why do you do it and what’s the reason?
Do I need to jack up the car to do this?
Does this change toe?
Do you need to jack up the side you're working on? Or is being flat on the ground okay, couldn't tell from the video
You'd have to jack up each side as you work on it, be sure to use jackstands
Thank you for the video, how can be sure that the camber doesn’t disturbed when you take hard corner ?
On strut based cars, our cars, camber isn't a dynamic setting, so cornering doesn't change camber. In double wishbone suspension cars, loading up the suspension increases negative camber, dynamically.
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Yes, but how to be sure that the 3 fixations doesn’t move without the little bolt that you have took off ?
Oh, just tighten down the upper strut bolts
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Oh ok ! And it’s enough for trackdays ? You sure the upper strut doesn’t move with the vibrations ?
It is, no issues if you torque things down properly
I’ve been watching you for awhile and I have a 2019 white type r love it! Your my go to guy with any questions. I am getting a eibach pro kit lowering springs installed should I be worried about camber? Should I get a camber kit? I want as even tire wear as possible.
You should be ok on camber, make sure you get an alignment
What's the point of the factory putting this on the car? Any cons with doing this? Interested in doing this to my Type-R. Keep up the great vids!
The point is to have the right adjustment for the camber to not wear off the tires on the inside only !
Exactly, the more negative camber is worse for tire wear, but better for turning performance
So the negative side effect for street or daily driving is that tires will reduce its working live but for tracking matters that change or adjustment will improve turning performance? Am I right or misunderstood the explanation? Kind regards
That's exactly right, tire life will be reduced and your turning performance will increase. You may also get a bit more torque steer
@@FlyinGato I'm not sold on this, cause rear is still in spec. It's going to take the traction control system for a ride (unless that's off too). When I had my 98 Civic lowered 1.3 inch with Prokit springs, took it to Honda dealership that was recommended by performance shop for alignment after installation. They couldn't get it perfect, but the slight negative champer (from being lowered) probably contributed to that car being a handling beast (lost only about 20% on tire life from neg champer). However, on the 90s Civic, everything was mechanical and same type of suspension system both front and back. Can't say the same for these new fancy traction control system that might not be optimum when car's out of spec. improved grip in the front, while back remains the same might be optimal around the turns, but in drastic transitioning, the drastic swing to less grip in the front (cause of neg spec) is going to make things more squirrly in an emergency situation.
Yep, I’ll go into detail this week about what negative camber does to handling, but in short, negative front camber improves turn in and front lateral grip, which is super important in a FWD car. Now, the R is already set up to be tail happy , but for fastest times, you’ll want the extra negative camber
I just checked and my sport hatch has this too. My e46 had the same method of gaining a little extra negative camber. Bummer because I just got my alignment done a few days before this video came out. Ah well.
Hi Elias, I have a 2018 Civic Honda EX, I am modifying the EX but, would this mod work on the EX version of the car?
No it’s only for the Type R unfortunately
@@FlyinGato Thanks man, ok no problem.
How do you feel about ktuner vs hondata now? I feel like I shouldve got hondata >:(.. or done more research before I bought;)
I'm right there with you I'm running ktuner 1.2 and with all of the e85 stuff that is coming out through hondata it desperately makes me want to switch
@@jonathancasagrande6774 traction control as well is very interesting. I really hope ktuner does something..I dont want to feel like I wasted 600$.
First to market is not as always a great thing. Im sure ktuner is working on making a safe ethanol tune and traction control.
@@raulvasquez807 yes sir you are correct
Hi, in my opinion hondata has a great product, nevertheless the software and the touch screen device have much better quality of hondata and more important the end user quality service that offer hondata is very poor, hondata and them dealers seems has the same issue, replay very late, has not the specific answer etc... for that reason I recommend KTuner 🍺👍🏻
Lol "first thing you need is a nut" yes, yes we all do lol
Every day!!
whats the nut size?
-2.0 degrees with springs all around.!
Nice! Only problem with lowering it is it's harder to fit huge tires under the car
Man I’m going thru tires bad I need help
Look at alignment possibly?
@@FlyinGato my reports been checking green does the car have a stock Camber setting ? That’s what they keep telling me
I would have cleaned it while it was exposed
Eh...
Flyin ghetto giving wrong info the nut is M10x1.5 not M10x1.25
FIRSTY
From Factory this car was dialed in by Honda. Have you seem people take their Type R to the Nurburgring and wiping the floor with all those Euro cars.
I can see why you had the tank slapper you unsettled the cars balance with mods. It’s a FWD car so the balance is everything.
Adding negative camber alone isn't going to cause a 'tank slapper'.
David Hartman If you would take the time to watch his other videos you will know he changed a lot more than just camber.
David Hartman Also you have probably never seen this car lay down the FWD record at the ring with a statement like that.
@@Phantom096 Fair enough, but adding negative camber will not in and of itself cause adverse handling. Certainly not 1.6 - 1.9 degrees.
@@Phantom096LOL. I'm a certified HPDE instructor for BMW, Audi, Porsche & others.
I have thousands of laps around courses all over NA.
I track a 2018 Z06 Z07 & the Type-R.
I'm leaving for VIR in shortly to instruct for the National Corvette Museum event there. I will have the Type-R on track.
I'll let you know how the negative camber mod feels.
Have you ever even driven a car on a race track?
Silly thing to do - if it was that easy I’m sure Honda would have factored this in
Why is it silly?
Adding negative camber is a huge positive for turning performance 😉