Understanding Strategic Ideas | Karpov vs. Kamsky 1992 - GM Ben Finegold

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  • @Nic_DM
    @Nic_DM 5 років тому +354

    I'm pretty sure the Tal Memorial is named after Mr. Memorial.

    • @ikinoktace1280
      @ikinoktace1280 4 роки тому +19

      People discredit Mr. Memorial too much nowadays

    • @joeljose182
      @joeljose182 3 роки тому +5

      Named before*

    • @michaellhoover94
      @michaellhoover94 3 роки тому +9

      Show the proper respect!! That's Grandmaster Memorial!!!!

    • @otakurocklee
      @otakurocklee 2 роки тому +5

      Yes because Mr. Memories was really tall.

  • @wizardseye
    @wizardseye 11 років тому +83

    His lectures are even funnier in person. He tends to give those in the room a hard time which is hilarious when you know everyone he's talking about.

    • @orangebetsy
      @orangebetsy 2 роки тому +4

      haha awesome. i can't stop laughing when he breaks the 4th wall with those hilarious looks.

  • @BrezHurley
    @BrezHurley 8 років тому +354

    Don't castle into checkmate unless you are playing me.
    ~Ben Finegld

  • @herzwatithink9289
    @herzwatithink9289 10 років тому +242

    My favourite player, Anatoly Karpov, covered by my favourite analyst, Ben Finegold. Doesn't get any better!

  • @re4072
    @re4072 8 років тому +493

    "What did Kamsky do to stop mate?" "resign"

  • @samsadax230
    @samsadax230 9 місяців тому +3

    Karpov's positional skills are unmatched.

  • @mrtampham
    @mrtampham 6 років тому +72

    Strategic ideas are soooo good. When he owned the f file and then went back to control the c file. I would have 100% pushed my kingside pawns and sacrifice something to break open the king.
    This teaches me so much about positioning, preventing opponent's good moves, and patience.

    • @jpg6296
      @jpg6296 6 років тому +3

      Haha, though I prefer the wizardry of Tal, I agree with you, we must first learn strategy and solid positional play before we can have a basis for other styles.

  • @johngreco8498
    @johngreco8498 10 років тому +475

    This guy is wayyyy funnier than his class gave him credit for. I would have been laughing too hard if I was in the class haha

    • @WalyB01
      @WalyB01 6 років тому +4

      The knight might go there later.....

    • @gregoroque
      @gregoroque 6 років тому +7

      "That makes our bishop not happy" - cracked me up

    • @joseruiz844
      @joseruiz844 6 років тому +2

      Totally agree. He is very funny indeed!

    • @ronclass1782
      @ronclass1782 5 років тому +1

      I figured that out in less than a minute

    • @msDanielp369
      @msDanielp369 5 років тому +1

      He's the coolest GM ever!! I dare you name a cooler one

  • @EVANGELOSS54
    @EVANGELOSS54 5 років тому +34

    Finegold is possibly the best chess commentator in the world ... I would love it if he did some A0 vs Stockfish games analysis

  • @stopit405
    @stopit405 4 роки тому +7

    His one-liners are so great. I enjoy them every single time.

  • @1rauno
    @1rauno 8 років тому +168

    "Mate is good, because then you win!"

  • @spartnstarcraft2
    @spartnstarcraft2 10 років тому +13

    this class under appreciates his humor so much. Great analysis in tandem with the jokes always make his lectures the easiest to follow and retain the information. Plz more of Ben.

  • @walterparker2641
    @walterparker2641 10 років тому +7

    The most concise and instructional chess lecture I have encountered on UA-cam,

  • @joseluisparreno4999
    @joseluisparreno4999 8 років тому +3

    One of the best videos by Ben Finegold.

  • @ss9392
    @ss9392 3 роки тому +5

    My favourite game by far, Karpov's style really stands out to me

  • @mitchellhodgemeyer
    @mitchellhodgemeyer 8 років тому +27

    This is my favourite of Ben's lectures (although the Paul Morphy ones are awesome too).

    • @rafaelgmota
      @rafaelgmota 8 років тому +7

      Typical Morphy opponent... Terrible! xD

  • @StygianStyle
    @StygianStyle 9 років тому +40

    I keep coming back to these vids for the jokes.

  • @iamnahidashrafuday
    @iamnahidashrafuday Рік тому

    These lectures are so helpful. His detailed explanations cooperate to understand middle game better!

  • @MyRook
    @MyRook 11 років тому +3

    Great example showing how space advantage gives you all the options(attack and defense).Great piece coordination.

  • @aliveli-hq6zk
    @aliveli-hq6zk 8 років тому +137

    "When you play Nc2, it is really hard to play Rc2."

  • @boschmidt7824
    @boschmidt7824 11 років тому +4

    Amazing lecture, explaining with humor the ideas behind every move. Simply great.

  • @ivek7773
    @ivek7773 10 років тому +9

    Man this guy just made my day

  • @rgsliwa8298
    @rgsliwa8298 7 років тому +1

    A very good lesson by big Ben Finegold. Health is wealth so you can keep teaching.

  • @Uerdue
    @Uerdue 4 роки тому +7

    3:44 Of course we've heard of him! He's a famous f***ing legend!

  • @LexFloyd
    @LexFloyd 9 років тому +68

    I really felt the pressure to answer at 36:22

    • @fisheatsyourhead
      @fisheatsyourhead 6 років тому +9

      highschool flashbacks of not paying attention and being called for an answer

    • @thijsyo
      @thijsyo 5 років тому +6

      The Tal Memorial, named after mister Memorial

  • @Crazeyfor67
    @Crazeyfor67 11 років тому +3

    Ben always makes chess fun. I surely missed his coverage at this years U.S. Championship. Yasser did a good job,,but the chemistry of Ben & Jen was superb. Watching their coverage last year made me jump up and drive to St.Louis (from Louisville) to experience the show live. Some of the post game interviews by Maurice Ashley were a bit cheesy and the excitement wasn't there. It all seemed contrived and slightly forced. Ben's coverage is easy and natural. Thanks for the lecture SLT CC

  • @petersodhi1762
    @petersodhi1762 8 років тому +6

    Superb analysis and presentation

  • @orlandorodriguez1291
    @orlandorodriguez1291 6 років тому +9

    Watching this in 2018, I find his humor smirkable at most then I remember they're usually kids/teens then I laugh my ass off!

  • @Grandcapi
    @Grandcapi 9 років тому +1

    Very instructive and funny!! Ben is good for young players, he knows how to make them learn and laugh at the same time. It was the first time I watched him on youtube and loved it.

  • @tze-weilim1632
    @tze-weilim1632 9 років тому +25

    I like GM Finegold. He's really funny here.

  • @mathewmgmg
    @mathewmgmg 9 років тому +9

    Excellent lecture sir...watched it twice!!
    One of the best lecturers here along with Yasser Seirawan

  • @Dontfollowplease
    @Dontfollowplease 8 років тому +36

    Took 78 seconds for him to mention Paul Morphy xD I love it!

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 11 років тому

    That's a valuable lesson that I learned after being swiftly crushed by a 2200. It's not sufficient to just do what you want to do, but to proactively prevent your opponent's plan. My rating has since improved dramatically!

  • @bhuvanc4992
    @bhuvanc4992 10 років тому +11

    As entertaining as instructive...awesome video!

  • @Samuel-cu9vo
    @Samuel-cu9vo 5 років тому +3

    I love the fact that someone was shocked about the knight going to a8 at 17:40

  • @oshanmodi
    @oshanmodi 10 років тому

    I am your fan.. Ben Finegold.. very helpful illustrations...

  • @xhemalvezi3999
    @xhemalvezi3999 6 років тому

    It's impossibile to get bored with him. I would pay a lot of money just to follow one of his lessons.

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 2 роки тому +1

    Karpov, a very interesting game. Finegold, a very interesting player & commentator

  • @mottian
    @mottian 9 років тому +85

    5:56 "That's something that we should probably talk about for an hour because I get paid by the hour" :D

    • @followingtheroe1952
      @followingtheroe1952 9 років тому +16

      +Martino Garonzi Sounds like something a "Finegold" would say.

    • @itrofimow
      @itrofimow 9 років тому +3

      +Myrdred Deceiver its just what he said

  • @daveanthony3880
    @daveanthony3880 8 років тому +6

    FINEGOLD IS A CHESS GOD

  • @toastersman217
    @toastersman217 11 років тому +4

    A very instructive video! Thank you!

  • @tharkanzox1493
    @tharkanzox1493 7 років тому +1

    We need ben finegold back

  • @iehudim
    @iehudim 10 років тому +2

    thank you for this precious videos

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 3 роки тому

    Great game. Great explanation.

  • @johnhechtlinger9465
    @johnhechtlinger9465 6 років тому

    nice lecture....that Karpov game was impressive....

  • @craig7102
    @craig7102 10 років тому +3

    thanks you gave me some idea's hadn't thought of

  • @anasbouayad6826
    @anasbouayad6826 6 років тому +1

    Karpov's gameplay is really magnificent

  • @dangelobenjamin
    @dangelobenjamin 11 років тому

    Both, it's awesome. You learn a lot from Ben!

  • @kingcarisma
    @kingcarisma 8 років тому +220

    Finegolds jokes are very suspicious...but his teaching is not...Cudos..

    • @federicogarcia4446
      @federicogarcia4446 8 років тому +41

      +kingcarisma oh thats not true, his jokes part from a premise equal or boring and then slowy improve to a better and winning punch line, he's jokes are solid.

    • @kingcarisma
      @kingcarisma 8 років тому +3

      Your`e correct!

    • @adatta3046
      @adatta3046 8 років тому +16

      His jokes are just terrible.

    • @Spiderhip
      @Spiderhip 7 років тому +57

      Why is his jokes are suspicious? You with the wrong answer.

    • @johnkom2339
      @johnkom2339 7 років тому +3

      His jokes are at your expense. Sarcasm but keeps the pace lively.

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 10 років тому

    Instructive lecture, thanks a lot!

  • @orangebetsy
    @orangebetsy 2 роки тому

    The quote that sums it all up for me: "Karpov likes different things than I do"

  • @myriadwhims
    @myriadwhims 11 років тому

    I really enjoyed this lecture! Thanks!

  • @Tobias-fe2hm
    @Tobias-fe2hm 6 років тому

    Thank you for uploading

  • @JamesJones-oq7hy
    @JamesJones-oq7hy 10 років тому

    your lectures are awesome

  • @joshuahunter7972
    @joshuahunter7972 4 роки тому

    Is that a new touch screen? Bens stepping up in the world.

  • @TexasSizzle
    @TexasSizzle 11 років тому

    Awesome lecture Ben! Also very funny!

  • @johnmichael642
    @johnmichael642 6 років тому

    wow the best chess channel i have ever seen O_O

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 11 років тому +5

    "That's something we should talk about for an hour... because I get paid by the hour... right?" friggin hilarious!

  • @logansoileau8238
    @logansoileau8238 4 роки тому +1

    The St. Louis chess club is found is in the city of Club.

  • @illmaculatechess
    @illmaculatechess 11 років тому +3

    i watched this lecture super blazed laughed my ass off

  • @joseruiz844
    @joseruiz844 6 років тому

    You make these explanations really enjoyable and vivid. Thanks a lot Ben!

  • @tims7174
    @tims7174 7 років тому +2

    That picture in the beginning though....

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe 9 років тому

    really nice lecture and funny at the same time

  • @bobmakin4991
    @bobmakin4991 5 років тому

    Why isn't this guy world championship he is smarter than everyone else

  • @pfsloan8230
    @pfsloan8230 11 років тому +1

    ...unless you're playing me...can't stop laughing...can't breathe...passing out. OK I may be exaggerating but Ben is a (Grand) master at making a point with such pointed humor one can't help but remember the lesson.

  • @Crazeyfor67
    @Crazeyfor67 11 років тому

    Actually I haven't watched it all yet. But I will keep your remark about Kamsky's mistakes in mind while viewing.

  • @youngadultsuis
    @youngadultsuis 10 років тому +9

    Ben Finegold for president!!!!

  • @manictiger
    @manictiger 7 років тому +10

    Did you know this isn't even Karpov's final form?
    Later on, he fuses with IBM's 'Deep Blue' to become Deep Karpov, during the second 1997 match against Kasparov.

    • @arsenalfanrichi
      @arsenalfanrichi 7 років тому +1

      I swear Karpov was a computer.

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 6 років тому

      jesus christ, deep blue was as much of an anti-karpov as possible.

  • @stanleygsf
    @stanleygsf 11 років тому

    Yaay! Fun lecture!

  • @GymChess
    @GymChess 11 років тому

    Nice lecture and nice guy.

  • @ThePawn-xi3zb
    @ThePawn-xi3zb 6 років тому +1

    14:08 He glued the pieces into the board.

  • @thetransferaccount4586
    @thetransferaccount4586 11 місяців тому

    nice lecture

  • @harleykf1
    @harleykf1 4 роки тому +1

    Leela says that 20...Nc6 was a significant inaccuracy. Recommending (I kid you not)... Na8 instead (I'm guessing to prepare b5)

    • @harleykf1
      @harleykf1 4 роки тому

      I think 28... Qh4 was also a decent try for a draw. Fianchettoing the queen was possibly a mistake too. Honestly this game is a pain to analyse even with computers :P

    • @harleykf1
      @harleykf1 4 роки тому

      Ultimately though it was probably Nd8 and b5 that were too passive. Well specifically playing b5 first made a lot more sense.

  • @meenay2728
    @meenay2728 7 років тому +1

    East or west Ben is the best

  • @maelstrom57
    @maelstrom57 11 років тому

    more from Ben!

  • @nubiankenpo
    @nubiankenpo 8 років тому +20

    The "Don Rickles" of chess. A dry humor savant.

    • @sebastianquilt
      @sebastianquilt 8 років тому +1

      Rickles was more jovial than this guy, whose attention span for humor is about 3 seconds, and who ought to partake in Impractical Jokers, finally, as Joe's fatter, smarter brother :) Great teacher, too.

  • @daniellamprecht1566
    @daniellamprecht1566 3 роки тому +1

    It's nice to see that Boomhauer has taken an interest in chess.

  • @Inbal_Feuchtwanger
    @Inbal_Feuchtwanger 11 років тому

    This is just awesome

  • @BizuteriaMoxie
    @BizuteriaMoxie 4 роки тому +1

    I like his videos

  • @BravingTheOutDoors
    @BravingTheOutDoors 11 років тому +1

    what an incredible game

  • @TheConcentrationmoon
    @TheConcentrationmoon 8 років тому +13

    i dont understand why some portions are edited. Its suspicious!!

  • @StefanStoykov
    @StefanStoykov 8 років тому +5

    "You like Bulgarian chess-players" .... WE ALL DO :)

  • @thorn35
    @thorn35 5 років тому

    Conrad Holt is a grandmaster born in Witchita Kansas.

  • @JThrashYT
    @JThrashYT 10 років тому +33

    jonah hill could play this dude in a movie

    • @herzwatithink9289
      @herzwatithink9289 10 років тому +1

      Nice. But who would play the Michael Cera character?

    • @TheKaeseStulle
      @TheKaeseStulle 7 років тому +1

      JThrashYT Micheal Cera plays Ken West.

    • @some______guy
      @some______guy 7 років тому +1

      I would love that. Michael Cera in a fat suit

    • @AssWhole-u6d
      @AssWhole-u6d 5 років тому

      He doesn't have the comedic skills to play Ben in a movie.

  • @gregtaylor6146
    @gregtaylor6146 6 років тому

    Whoa there Ben.... you're a veggie? that's awesome man, good for you!!!

  • @azi7783
    @azi7783 6 років тому

    What exactly did those people dislike about this video?! Very suspecious!

  • @mottian
    @mottian 9 років тому +11

    6:30 "So, you go to the store and you buy chicken. Right Ben?"

  • @johnrainmcmanus6319
    @johnrainmcmanus6319 10 років тому +2

    Bh6 immediately (instead of f6) leads to mate, I think.

    • @krippp
      @krippp 10 років тому +1

      Bh6 is much worse, though White retains a bishop for 2 connected passed pawns.
      After Karpov's 49.f6+, his queen gets to f6 instead of g7, immediately ready to support a Bf3+. And if ..Kxh4, then also ready for Qf4#. It's mate in 9, because in that way Bf3 remains lethal.
      With 49.Bh6+, after the obvious 49..Kxh6 50.Qf8+ Bg7 51.g5+ Kh5 52.Qxg7, black would play 52..Qd3, and the Black queen blocks the 3rd rank from Kg3. Then, after the eventual Bf3+ with the White queen's support, Black's king can just take the pawn on h4 and avoid mate, having had plenty of time to bring his queen to e3, preventing Qf4#. So White would have to win some other way, and that game's gonna take a long time, giving drawing chances for Black.

    • @sleepyeyeguy
      @sleepyeyeguy 10 років тому

      Go Dog Go! XD

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 3 роки тому

    43:43
    man id be really curious what the thought process is behind pushing (/sacrificing) the pawns the specific way white does there
    very hard for non titled players to understand 😢

  • @nfltrrrqwsa7512
    @nfltrrrqwsa7512 4 роки тому

    To me, Qc4 Rd4 is a much stronger move than bxc5 Rdd3, assuming the Krejcik Gambit holds in parallel with a subdivision 6.5 strategy in the end game scenario.

  • @rob__rob_5131
    @rob__rob_5131 4 роки тому +2

    Is Finegold really a Vegetarian? If soo... I need his recipes!

  • @thomasrebotier1741
    @thomasrebotier1741 5 років тому

    At 35:02, what is wrong with ... Q c3. It forces queen trade

  • @TheChessViking
    @TheChessViking 11 років тому

    I think he struck a fine balance....you lost focus anyway for anything over 20-30 minutes so I liked his style!

  • @RonakBadhe
    @RonakBadhe 7 років тому

    Conrad Holt was born in Kansas @23:32

  • @ankushs6448
    @ankushs6448 5 років тому +4

    "...but bad too, gotta watch it. Stole my name. I had it first." Hahaha i'm dying.. how is no one there laughing. Are they drugged?

  • @josephschenkel8956
    @josephschenkel8956 6 років тому +1

    What is the difference between a 'tactic' and a 'strategy' both in general and in the context of chess?

    • @daims8728
      @daims8728 6 років тому

      Joseph Schenkel to my level of understanding when we talk about tactics it’s short terms move strategy is more about mid-long term move

    • @josephschenkel8956
      @josephschenkel8956 6 років тому

      @@daims8728 Thanks!

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 6 років тому

      @@josephschenkel8956 tactics are 3-6 move shorts that are kind of forced and calculated, usually to win pieces or to get to a different state in the board (short term but very precise). Strategy is your overall vague ideas about what you want to do in the board long term (long term but very vague)

  • @hiwibaba22
    @hiwibaba22 6 років тому

    Awesome!!!

  • @MJKarkoska
    @MJKarkoska 5 років тому

    I have pioneered a new technique called the accidental sacrifice. I'm extremely good at it.

  • @sleepyeyeguy
    @sleepyeyeguy 10 років тому +1

    Wow, that Gelfand guy is a patzer!

  • @IamThomassive
    @IamThomassive 11 років тому +3

    In this kind of classic Karpov strategic grind the mistakes aren't always obvious or big. He steadily nurtured a positional plus until culminated in tangible gain. Examining the inaccuracies of Kamsky is less instructive than the genius of Karpov and a topic for another lecture.