Karpov and his Ruy Lopez | Mastering the Middlegame - GM Ben Finegold
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2016
- Grandmaster Ben Finegold demonstrates why black should never play the closed defence against Anatoly Karpov's Ruy Lopez. These three games ended in the middlegame.
2016.05.31
Anatoly Karpov vs Boris Spassky, It, URS (1973): C94 Ruy Lopez, closed, Breyer defence
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Anatoly Karpov vs Wolfgang Unzicker, Milan (1975): C97 Ruy Lopez, closed, Chigorin defence
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Anatoly Karpov vs Alexander Beliavsky, Biel 55/356 [Karpov,An (1992)
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When you want to become a stand up comedian but end up being a chess grandmaster
@@GrowingFatherchess grandpa master
He’s pretty much the only GM with any charm at all. The rest border on autistic. Just being honest here. Magnus is one boring person when he speaks.
Someone says "IM Norm" to you, just say "Nice to meet you Norm, my name's Ben"
“He stopped g6 better than you guys did. He resigned.”
Hahahahahahaha
20:37 that “umm” is the exact note and timbre of the opening note of “All Star”
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one of the greatest youtube comments of all time
Glorious
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What I like about Ben Finegold is how he intertwines real life in his jokes to teach people valueable lessons.
And the Simpsons.
Guy is hilarious...But instructive
Like "never move your pawns"? :D
Like, all of your children have no talent; yes you parents at home. They play some memorized opening they coach taught them, lose, there coach said they played it wrong; try again and loose again then they give up on Chess and play hockey.
Then lose in hockey also!
Also: never play f6!
Me before the apocalypse : "Oh but it's ok, a6 is defended"
A 50 minute Finegold lecture just honestly made my day :)
It's funny how many views he gets relative to other speakers. Not downplaying others' lectures, its just that Ben really brings another element that is hard to replicate. He is just naturally charismatic and witty.
+ATL yep same
Really? The constantly yammering and superficial analysis are unwatchable.
Finegold actually made a Karpov game too painful to watch.
No offense, but are you a teenager?
?
Blair Schirmer
"when your rating goes up, you like bishops more" 😆😆😆 I like that 👍👍👍
It's insane how many good instructive chess analysis from GMs are there for free. Thank you for posting such high quality content for free :) I was stuck on 1500 for almost 2 years and now im getting better ever since i started watching your videos. You are promoting chess in a just most beautiful manner. Greetings from Serbia!
Let's say you are playing Kasparov.. You should probably wake up at that point 😆😆😆 made my day!!! ben at his finest
@AJ De Luna you may same in a dreamer but I'm not the only one
@@gamblinggator3177 You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Ben at his finegoldest
@@gnpar lmao
*"Rawer"-GM Ben Finegold*
How does Ben not do stand up.. His humor is so entertaining
The Ruy Lopez opening seems to build up slowly and rely on position and slow expansion of space...at the same time, it can be sneaky aggressive. Love Ben's lectures!!
ben: "c4..."
me: which is explosive
ben: "...which is explosive"
we're vibing
lol
Karpov was a much better player than people give him credit for. Not only was he superb in the Ruy Lopez but he crushed other players in the Sicilian Defense, in fact, outside of Kasparov, Karpov beat almost everyone else who played the Sicilian against him.
Oh yes, Karpov was one of the very greatest and if his first world title match v Kasparov in 84 hadn't been so long he might well be rated the greatest player ever. It took Kasparov 32 games to win a game in that match; his stamina and grit saved him, but he would have lost 4-0 after 12 games, also after 24 games, or 5-0 after 30 games. Karpov's quality took him to another level
***** Ask Fischer fans about Karpov. They think that Karpov is bad.
***** It's not an odd generalization, it's just my experience with people in the chess community.
and nothing for nothing if you think about it yeah kasparov beat karpov 2xs technically maybe 3 ALL the game points came down to like 1 point of half point one time. no one blew anyone out the water like fischer did to spassky
Marko Kostic No, Karpov is inarguably one of the greatest chess players of all time. As far as I'm concerned he beat Kasparov in their 1984/1985 world championship match.
Kasparov and Karpov were basically equal in strength.
The thing with Fischer is he dominated like no other had before or since, a young Karpov would be no match for Fischer (assuming he kept playing), 1975, 1978 (my prediction is 12.5-6.5) WC matched would end with comfortable wins for Bobby. Karpov would have become a greater player than he did in our timelines (but, again, so would Fischer) by 81 it might be a close victory for Fischer (12.5-10.5), but by 84, age might get the better of him and its possible Karpov wins (12.5-11.5). If Fischer retires after the 85 match, and Kasparov never plays him, I'm confident Karpov would been the superior player to Kasparov throughout their careers, the rivalry with Fischer would be invaluable and he'd have learned so much about chess. As the matches against Fischer would essentially be chess lessons.
Thinking about it makes me quite sad, the best of Fischer, is never to be seen he never reached his potential, and Karpov remained forever unable to play Bobby.
you know Ben when I was young Morphy, Tal, Kasparov they were my heros. But now I find that I like Karpov the best of all. I don't know if I'm grown up now or just old.
Same with me. I find myself enjoying positional masterpieces now rather than tactical fireworks.
+Daggerfall40 tactical fireworks haha. When I'm playing bullet with friends sometimes I find pieces literally flying off the board
I just started watching this, and I absolutely love Ben Finegold's humor. I'm surprised I'm not hearing roaring laughter from the audience.
They're not miked, so you wouldn't hear it.
Stupid audience
i lost interest in chess long time ago
but i still watch every ben finegold video for his humor
Why lost interest in chess ?
+The Dardans too hard for me
About 1-2 years ago I was really bad,I had a chess class.I just practiced and got better
I once beat the level 5 computer on chess.com without coaching....for real...that is my best victory so far.
John Tatum Congratzzzz!! Haha.. still struggling at level 8 :(
Today is my birthday and I get a new Ben Finegold lecture as a present. Yay!
happy bd!!❤😁
happy bday :)
happy birthday Jessica
TERRIBLE!!!! xD
Evert Clowting very suspicious
Thank you very much. Ben Finegold videos are my favorite chess videos by far.
Mato Jelic is great too! I enjoy quite a few of them tbh. Seirawans are really deep. Schrantz are similar to Finegold. Kingscrushers are extremely in depth and Mato always chooses phenomenal games and keeps them digestible.
+arsenalfanrichi id recommend you john bartholomew's climbing the rating ladder/instructional videos then. they are straightforward and really instructive chess notions although no flashy games from superGM are covered
+Timothy Barth Yep, sorry, forgot to mention Johns videos... They're great too! And he gives good insight into the precognition good players have
That was an excellent lecture with well chosen games. Thank you :)
I have learned more from you and as such my game has improved substainsu..substansual...a lot...thanks much.
Ba dum tsss
Substantially
Karpov is a beast, true positional player. People were scared of him, even Kasparov had a tough time with him. The only problem I think is Kasparov's more detailed approach to concrete analysis, while Karpov was overly focused on General strategy.
John Brown Kasparov has an all time +2 score against Karpov , something like that
Karpov was up 5-0 with a bunch of draws against Kasparov in their first match. That would normally be a slam-dunk win. Kasparov was shocked at how good Karpov was, since he had buzzed through all the challengers.
Awesome lecture. Thank you so much for all your hard work putting this together. This channel has been fantastic for learning chess and makes me love the game so much more.
also, your humor is so point. it's dorky in many good ways. :)
wow it took me like 20 finegold videos to get the C4 being an explosive move joke. Im the reason hes always making fun of the audience at home, sorry guys
its ok hes probably making fun of me too i just am not aware of it yet
Thanks for the comment I have just got the joke now
Ben Finegold gives such entertaining lectures!
How does this man makes chess hilarious?
Ben you are brilliant man so funny but still the lesson is so instructive even with al the jokes, a joy to watch and listen
Finally Finegold!
Awesome Teacher and Chess Player.. I wish I could attend his class.
ben finegold , thank you a lot
“Breaking one of my rules... never move pawns.” *shrugs nonchalantly*
😂 that killed me
I've watched this video several times! Amazing value I think
If Jonah hill was a grand master
Jonah Hill *is* a grandmaster... Of ACTING
hey kids, you will be this in 40 years, get out and exercise
LMAO
@@Hoobyj for my money he looks more like Ethan Suplee
Karpov's play is formative. Not everyone is a tactical genius but Karpov is a strategical master. The Strategist of his era and formidable.
Really glad to see Ben lecturing again.
Yay, more Ben! :D
I think I can watch finegold videos forever
Back and forth between funny and hard to listen to, excellent insight thought
another nice lecture
Only two days and already > 10,000 views! You're well loved, Ben Finegold!
excellent discussion
Love the Karpov lectures. Hope Ben's doing okay after Korchnois passing
means he can move up in the rankings
+newenglandsun :)
arsenalfanrichi i
rofl love his face when he ask questions no on knows the answer for (which happens 90% of the time)
That Karpov-Spassky game was really instructive.
I absolutely love Ben finegold! Honestly his personality’s more refreshing than sprite, which (if you’ve watched the commercials) we all know is shockingly refreshing.
(This video was very helpful. I appreciate it!)
Very informative
I enjoy his lectures. diamonds in the rough
20:27
"yeah, well, he stopped it better than you guys. he resigned" got me chuckling
Excellent study.
This guy is the Rich Evans of Chess.
I wish Richevans was this funny!
‘I can’t take my eyes off of him’ - Julia Roberts on A-list Celebrity Rich Evans
"Am I having a stroke?" That's my new favorite Finegold line.
Finegold. If people are paying attention to life and all the nuggets it gives you, a name like this should give them pause. I, too, was put off a bit by his humor, as this audience clearly was (buncha zombies, how do you not ‘lol’ in the first 10 mins?). But this is gold and I’m grateful to have found it.
In the last Karpov game 41:45, Bc3 was played instead of c5 because of the tactical shot Bxc5! if Qxc5 then just Qxc5 followed by Rxd2. if bxc5 then Qxa5 is winning.
Excellent! And a GM with a sense of humor! Karl, in jeff city, mo
I loved the Doors reference
I LOVE LISTENING TO GM BEN FINEGOLD! ALL CAPS! HES A GOD!
I came for a research to WashU in St. Louis, and started watching your videos here. Now I became a member of the club. Mostly because Ben Finegold and Jonathan Schrantz. Thanks guys, you make chess more beautiful with your positive energies. Always.
Finally!
My time with the Ruy was misspent youth. It was the Fischer era and there was nobody to train me and a bunch of Fischer Ruy games. Everybody played Ruy and Sicilian which are DEEP, DEEP, DEEP openings. It's easy to go 30 moves and still be in book! And that was before computers (that were good).
go ben finegold great lecture.suggestion for opening class french advance or english main line
Ben must like the training method of beat you up to build you up, so mean to those kids. lol
In newer videos and guides explaining the Ruy lopez I see A3 getting played over C3 (not necessarily on move 8). Anyone know why's that?
Ben is such a personality in chess...
another great lecture
God daiumm i love Ben Finegold..... His lectures are amazing with Sprinkles of Jokes Here and ther,,,,.More like Sprinkles of Jokes everywhere
👏🔥 🙋🙌
I just find Ben to be so entertaining .
In the first game did he made him when he plaa at the end G6 pawn on G5?
I think black has than a chance or?
Can someone help me because i sea there no mate?
Why did i just watch a 50 min video about chess strategies when i barely know how the pieces move?
I love Ruy Lopez opening! 😁 had the game gone the way @21:56, white wins the Queen with Nxg6 - Rxg6, Qh5+ - Kg7 (protect g6 rook), Rxd6 - Qxd6 ( or lose 2nd Knight), Nf5+ forks the black King and Queen while the Ruy Lopez bishop is ready to breathe fire down the G8 diagonal. 👍
Sooo funny and never boring..
“He stopped it better than you guys he resigned”
You are a treasure Ben
"when they start playing crazy in the opening, the game is a boring draw later, and when they start playing boring then it gets all exiting" actually true
At 21:38 .... Rg8 could White play Rxd6 then Qxd6, Nxg6, Rxg6, Qh5+, Rh6, Qxh6+, Kxh6, Nf5+, Kg7, then Nxd6. White is down the exchange but has compensation being two pawns up.
(By the way I am only a 1550 so I might be wrong)
"breaking my rule 'never move pawns'". finally a new finegold rule!
There should be a video about the Petroff Defense
it's not ''petroff'' but ''petrov''
I've seen both spellings. Petroff was the English spelling used in Kasparov's books (which may have been his editors' choices). If you want to be technical, the rest of the world calls it Russian Game and his name was actually Петро́в. But go ahead and nitpick if you're up to it.
XD
Actually, "Petroff" is the German spelling. Petrov's studies about this defense, which was thought to be incorrect until he examined it, were first translated to German and thus the Petroff spelling. Anyway as you said, in many countries it is known as the Russian game; not everywhere though, as in Spain (my country, but many others as well) it's most commonly referred to as the Petrov, with a "v", since no one uses anymore the German original spelling for the name of the player (although it is true that it's still used to name the opening). Not even Germans, who now transcript it as Petrow (but call it Russian game).
Just a bit of trivia. Anyway you're right, I'm not trying to argue, just to contribute!
red nac No, go ahead. That was fascinating
Charismatic man.
Tread lightly
R.I.P Viktor Korchnoi :(
Oh, sorry to hear that :(
Damn i would have wanted to hear him in person.
At around 6:57 Ben suggests Spasky moved his knight from c6 back to b8 so as to potentially reposition the knight to attack whites bishop via b8, d7, c5, the whites bishop retreats to the second rank and on white’s next turn he can kick the knight by moving his pawn to b4. If you are in this starting position and your goal is to attack white’s bishop on b3 then moving your knight back to b8 wastes tempo and allows your knight to be attacked (if your goal is to move your knight to b8 so as to reposition to d7 and the e6 or the like, then moving the knight back makes sense). A better knight move is from c6 directly to a5, forcing whites bishop back to c2, and if white the moves his pawn to b4 to kick your knight... you can now place your knight on the c4 square, and if black plays pawn d3, you can maneuver your knight to b6, which adds further protection to the d5 square (already protected by the other knight to f6) for a eventual pawn break.
You are missing the point. The Breyer opening as the Tchigorin aim less as to attack the b3 bishop than to consolidate the center with c5 or Nd7. If you want to kill the bishop go for the Taimanov variation ( 4. Ba4 b5 5.Bb3 Na5 6....Nxb3)
Is he the best teacher in the world? I think so
The answer is fries
i love this guy.He is so funny.
jumped up from my homework to check Ben!
Haha same here!
Ben finegold is the best
Can you make a video about Bc5 instead of Bd7?
I love his humor!
What player are they talking about at 4:20? I can't make out the name.
This guy is a pure gold, id say a fine pure gold, ba dum tsss
Do you think this is an original thought? This is nothing new. Ben Finegold has been fine gold.
@@mickeyrube6623 Ive been waiting 3 years for someone to respond
Ben Finegold is so funny when he lifts his hand in gesticulation and it seems like he´s going to checkmate.... ;)
In the first game what the white should move after black ....g5?
It was 1974. I I favored this one chess club, because it was right across the street from a pawn shop.
video on how to defend as white in marshall gambit.... plzzz
who would win?
b7 bishop or a1 rook
How could he call Carpov's game boring? When Carpov does sac it is 200% accurate. He sees through it all. His game to me are mathematical proofs.
in life you can be good at all things or great at one ,
choose wisely ⏳
41:57 -- Interesting that the engine doesn't like moving the knight to f3; of the nine lines examined, it's the least-liked.
43:40 -- Black should have been maneuvering his bishops to better squares instead of Rd4? He drops a full engine point here, and gets steadily worse hereon.
45:56 -- Qe8?? ...The engine has been marking Bg7 as the best move turn-after-turn for quite some time, and Black steadfastly refused to play it. Qc7 would also have prevented the impending king-rook fork.
I think you are using low depth. Complex positions typicallh require quite a bit of time for accurate results. Sacrifices and such sometimes need forcing to get an engine to evaluate them.
by the way there are some neat tactics I think ben sort of glossed over in game 2 and that is why didn't unzicker move 19. ... Bg7. There's that g6 there waiting for the bishop clearly that's where it belongs. The problem is white moves 19. Rf1 and there's no place for the knight to go. 20. .. Nh5 21. Nxh5 gxh5 22. Qxh5 wins. So why then Be7 hmmm? The trick is what Ben mentioned briefly the dark squared bishop for white is loose so white can't just move 20. Rf1 Ng4 and black survives. That's what unzicker was hoping would happen. But karpov saw it.
He predicted the 2018 world championship matchup lol
He even predicted the draw ending "They are the same person, right?" hahahaha
"Then you woke up and apologized" lol
Does anyone know the engine or GUI he's using that lets him draw arrows?
RPGgamer1010220 chessbase I think
1:04 when a 14 year old girl talking about her crush