Recent Games (& One Classic) from the World's Best - GM Ben Finegold - 2013.08.07

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2013
  • Grandmaster Ben Finegold looks at some recent games (and one classic) from the World's best including: Georg Meier vs. Vladimir Kramnik; Etienne Bacrot vs. Richard Rapport; Weiqi Zhou vs. Ray Robson; Wang Yue vs. Ray Robson; Sergey Karjakin vs. Alexandra Kosteniuk and David Bronstein vs. Viktor Korchnoi.

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  • @MortiCarthago
    @MortiCarthago 8 років тому +133

    "Usually, it's not that one side plays well and one side plays badly and the side that plays well wins. Usually, you both play badly... and then one of you decides to make the worst move in all time and minus 100." I couldn't sum up my chess life better than this.

  • @HistoricFootball
    @HistoricFootball 2 роки тому +8

    Ben finegold is the greatest chess lecturer of all time

  • @invertedcrayon
    @invertedcrayon 7 років тому +9

    4:15 Robert Frost's "Fire and Ice". I see Ben is a poetry fan

  • @tharkanzox1493
    @tharkanzox1493 9 років тому +8

    Every time I hear that string section play the St Louis Chess Club them I get all psyched

  • @liver1865
    @liver1865 5 років тому +16

    A drinking game: Look in the comments and take a shot every time you see "terrible" or "very suspicious"

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 роки тому +1

      He only says "terrible" about five times in 40 minutes, here. Perhaps he was ill.

  • @kamon9339
    @kamon9339 7 років тому +31

    alright lets be honest here.... how can someone dislike this? like what were the guys expecting when they clicked on this video... terrible

  • @yadasampatidasa8690
    @yadasampatidasa8690 5 років тому +10

    18:25 Your pronunciation of "Scheveningen" is almost perfect! I have never heard a foreigner say it so well. You just put "a little" too much stress on the "ch" part :-)

  • @joopsnoop
    @joopsnoop 8 років тому +5

    Great teaching style Ben. Very enjoyable.

  • @pgoedde
    @pgoedde 10 років тому +7

    4 passed pawns.. remember that ...

  • @whoisbhauji
    @whoisbhauji 7 років тому +4

    Ra8 is really stunning!

  • @DMK000
    @DMK000 10 років тому +14

    Yes, the Marshall Chess Club is very suspicious...

  • @polg0003
    @polg0003 9 років тому +5

    Ben Finegold is the best

  • @TheGeneralCase
    @TheGeneralCase 7 років тому +19

    Some say the world will end in fire,
    Some say in ice.
    From what I’ve tasted of desire
    I hold with those who favor fire.
    But if it had to perish twice,
    I think I know enough of hate
    To say that for destruction ice
    Is also great
    And would suffice.

  • @jerrylahjalahtiex-jw5587
    @jerrylahjalahtiex-jw5587 6 років тому +2

    From 00:10 I love his smirk laughter in the start of the video!!!!!! :D

  • @softwareadministrato
    @softwareadministrato 8 років тому +4

    0:18 LOL what a laugh :D

  • @jonatasorto
    @jonatasorto 3 місяці тому

    It's been 10 years and I'm still frozen to my seat by the Karjakin sequence.
    Help

  • @lholtie
    @lholtie 10 років тому

    his humour is special but i like it. imo the lecture was very entertaining hence instructive.

  • @y2kgirl993
    @y2kgirl993 10 років тому +14

    Ra8 I hate when that happens

  • @PsDani
    @PsDani 7 років тому +3

    you can't take your own piece AND you're in check has to be the best one liner in chess

  • @ahrrydepp493
    @ahrrydepp493 2 роки тому

    The outro was gold

  • @juliafloridausa
    @juliafloridausa 8 місяців тому

    00:36 Georg Meier vs. Vladimir Kramnik
    08:30 Etienne Bacrot vs. Richard Rapport
    19:09 Weiqi Zhou vs. Ray Robson
    22:14 Wang Yue vs. Ray Robson
    28:27 Sergey Karjakin vs. Alexandra Kosteniuk
    35:46 David Bronstein vs. Viktor Korchnoi

  • @cyxFrag
    @cyxFrag 8 років тому +1

    7:20 i'm still cryin'

  • @lollollington2227
    @lollollington2227 7 років тому +1

    these videos are epic

  • @Toxie207
    @Toxie207 10 років тому

    Worth mentioning at the very end. After Rxh6+ Kg5 white has Qe5+ Kxh6 Qh5 mate.

  • @theRacer3396
    @theRacer3396 10 років тому

    Ben is THE BEST !

  • @KingsExecutor
    @KingsExecutor 10 років тому +2

    I asked a friend and he is rated like minus a million hahahahah :D Ben's hilarious as hell

  • @sciencetube4574
    @sciencetube4574 4 роки тому +2

    I have a feeling that someone had some number of passed pawns at some point.

  • @unibodhi
    @unibodhi 7 років тому +2

    Awesome video!
    Can anyone explain the last game for me? I see how Kf4 gives up the black queen, but how is Kf6 just as bad?

    • @uzoge
      @uzoge 7 років тому +3

      g5 check with the pawn. but Ben explained this move at 40:45
      have a nice day .)

  • @RonSteriti
    @RonSteriti 5 років тому

    Ben, there’s a third move in Bronstein Korchnoi 1962 you didn’t have time to mention: the move for black Kf7, which puts white into one move checks in order to save his rook.
    39 Rxh6+ Kf7 40 Qb7+ Kg8 41 Qa8 Kf7 results in a draw.
    This might be a nice example of why you don’t allow students to resign.
    Also, stockfish recommends moves that hang the queen. 39 Rxh6+ Kf7 40 Qc8+ Kg8 41 Qc8+ Qf8! 42 Rh8+ Kxh8. Don’t do that!
    Is this correct?

  • @BravingTheOutDoors
    @BravingTheOutDoors 10 років тому +1

    What does he have with Ken West that he keeps talking about him 10 times every lecture?

  • @lenks0
    @lenks0 10 років тому +5

    "White to play and win. This is why Bronstein was almost the world champion and you were not... you were almost not able to get into the lecture that's the difference" LOL

  • @joopsnoop
    @joopsnoop 8 років тому

    After Nxh6, f7 seems good?

  • @fibonacci112358s
    @fibonacci112358s 9 років тому

    The second last game was insane!
    In the final position of the last game, what about Qe8+; that also wins, right?

  • @pauchalo
    @pauchalo 10 років тому

    This guy is so crazy :D

  • @EDAmirr
    @EDAmirr 10 років тому

    funny or not, hes trying to make the lecture more interesting, and he does a great job at it!

  • @liver1865
    @liver1865 8 років тому +3

    5:35 Why didn't White play Queen D2?

  • @ivanstanisavljevic8245
    @ivanstanisavljevic8245 9 років тому +3

    hahaha this guy is the best

  • @pfsloan8230
    @pfsloan8230 10 років тому

    The great Jack Benny once chastised Rich Little for copying his fingers to the chin move using 4 fingers. Jack told Rich, "You've got it all wrong! It's 3 fingers, not 4."
    Rich said in his best Benny voice (complete with hand move), "But why?!"
    Benny answered, "Because 3 is FUNNIER!"
    So, the answer to the Bronstein story is, "Because Ben is FUNNIER!"

  • @JPCPSeto
    @JPCPSeto 6 років тому

    What game by Bronstein is Ben referring to? Because when I look for his "dream game" I only find a Nimzo game, not a King's gambit.

  • @greatsquare7046
    @greatsquare7046 8 років тому

    @14:00 why not Rh7 ...?? Bcoz if [1)...Bxd5 2)Rxg7,Bxg8 3)RxQ+,KxR where white has a rook for 2 minor pieces + 4 connected passed pawns. As opposed to the variation 1)d5 shown by GM Finegold which ends up with R for 2 M Pieces + 3 connected passed pawns... So, is my variation a tiny bit better.... What say??? Anyone???

    • @RayVitoles
      @RayVitoles 8 років тому

      +Kedar Sahasrabudhe maybe Qd5 followed by Qe4+?

    • @greatsquare7046
      @greatsquare7046 8 років тому

      +RayVitoles No.... Qd5 is a blunder due to 1)Qxd5,Bxd5 2)Rxg7... White has an extra rook and 4 connected pp... evaluation is around 9.2 for white..... Therefore, I surmised you meant Qf5! instead of Qd5?? Now after Qf5 [If 1)Rxg7?,Qe4+ 2)Kd1,Qxd4+ 3)Ke1,Qe3+] and Black steals a perpetual!!!... So, I overlooked the refutation Qf5 and hence d5 is better than Rh7.

    • @jorik0907
      @jorik0907 8 років тому

      Rh7 is risky because of Qf5 which threatens your rook and perpetual ;)

    • @jorik0907
      @jorik0907 8 років тому

      never mind, I didnt see your last comment

  • @hellopleychess3190
    @hellopleychess3190 Рік тому

    alright I didnt see Ra8 in the end but I think Bxd5 instead is also winning because after Kxf8 you can play Bb7 and after Ra7 you can play a6 and if that's not winning, I must be crazy

  • @Traagst
    @Traagst 10 років тому

    I noticed the tactic and I'm pretty sure I don't meet the rating requirements since I don't play chess. I'm happy lol :)

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 3 роки тому

    For a second, I mis-parsed the title as "... from the World's Best GM, Ben Finegold". :)

  • @harveybourdeil4781
    @harveybourdeil4781 7 років тому +1

    25:22 Rxg4 only looses the exchange right? whereas Rc3 looses the bishop for free...

    • @liam314
      @liam314 7 років тому +1

      The rook is pinned to the king... so... no! ;)

  • @TheVichu01
    @TheVichu01 10 років тому

    At 13:45, what about Rh7 instead of d5

    • @waschkarte3989
      @waschkarte3989 5 років тому

      I would guess Qf5, followed by checks on the white squares until forever - the bishop and the c4-pawn connect very well with the queen there. 0-0-0 there (like after the immediate Qf5 instead of Qg4 drawing in the line before taking on b6) fails to Qxh7, and if you take on g7 then Qe4, Qd3, Qf3, Qg2 etc - if you go towards the queenside it might even be mate after Qe3 Qd2 something and the bishop entering.

  • @imnikhil3831
    @imnikhil3831 10 років тому

    This game was played long long before everyone was born, even the players. Ha ha !!

  • @KillianDefaoite
    @KillianDefaoite 7 років тому

    4:28 can't white play Qa5 here? Am I missing something?

    • @TheMarkODonohue
      @TheMarkODonohue 6 років тому

      If Qg6 Qa5 Rb5 will win the g-pawn and probably mate

  • @jeffreymiranda8091
    @jeffreymiranda8091 4 роки тому

    #1 Fan here finishing videos... Terrible and Very Suspicious!!!

  • @lamb998
    @lamb998 8 років тому

    i didnt get it, had to run it thru my engine

  • @richardfredlund3802
    @richardfredlund3802 6 років тому

    is there a rehab for sarcasm addiction

  • @jplg88
    @jplg88 10 років тому +1

    Hey Ben! You should stop drinking so many soft drinks and switch to water ;)

  • @richardsrensen4219
    @richardsrensen4219 10 років тому

    chess is like that we are all bad at playing chess its just a matter of on what level

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 4 роки тому

    Rook a8 holy crap

  • @AakashKumar-gl2fk
    @AakashKumar-gl2fk 2 роки тому

    29:25 relatable

  • @rahulkarn3754
    @rahulkarn3754 7 років тому

    is Ken west really a gm?

  • @markphc99
    @markphc99 10 років тому

    Ben actually mated in real life?

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 5 років тому +3

    did he just said "sta" at 12:40 which means what in serbian
    omg

    • @dvysku
      @dvysku 4 роки тому

      Well, you know, it's "what" in Russian too. And I think he addressed it at that Dimitri fellow :P

  • @VickyL11
    @VickyL11 9 років тому +3

    Is there really a rating requirement to get into the advanced class and if so what is it? Is it because these lectures are heavily oversubscribed. Man, the young chess players in St Louis are really lucky!!

    • @STLChessClub
      @STLChessClub  9 років тому +4

      Patrick Gorman Any member can attend, but the advanced class had a recommended minimum rating of 1800.

    • @adamcunningham8248
      @adamcunningham8248 8 років тому +16

      Danny Dingo He is just teasing. Everyone is bad at chess. Did you know this? He talks about his own terrible moves almost as much as he teases these 1800 kids, who are way better than me, and still terrible. For more information on the validity of ratings please visit the Fide website and take a look at the algorithms used in the Elo Rating System.

    • @oskill7140
      @oskill7140 8 років тому +1

      Adam Cunningham i'm sure everyone understands he's kidding, however, I personally agree he does it too often and it sounds rude and almost malicious even if it isn't intended to be so

    • @ralphschraven339
      @ralphschraven339 8 років тому +5

      +oskill The fact that his entire style of lecturing revolves around mocking other people or himself kind of gives away the fact that if he's saying you're bad he's probably not being very serious about it :P
      Of course, that still doesn't mean everyone understands he's joking. But then again, that's just life. Sometimes people misinterpret what other people are saying. Luckily that's not that harmful in this case.

    • @siLence-84
      @siLence-84 8 років тому

      +Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis how do you join a chess club and what are they and how do they work?

  • @BongelaMnguni
    @BongelaMnguni 7 років тому +1

    He's right about Nakamura at the end, that guy is so good at lashing out some deep tactics within a millisecond

  • @Bianstus
    @Bianstus Рік тому

    *Four passed pawns*

  • @tobuslieven
    @tobuslieven 10 років тому

    "I can't believe Bronstein is better than you guys. He's not even alive." 39:05 hahaha : )

  • @timhilton888
    @timhilton888 10 років тому

    At least it isn't ethanol haha

  • @mondoberzerker
    @mondoberzerker 10 років тому

    angstgegner

  • @xDMrGarrison
    @xDMrGarrison 5 років тому

    Rook a8, the truth hurts!

  • @pfsloan8230
    @pfsloan8230 10 років тому

    Keep drinking pop Ben, it's funnier.

  • @DaRza17
    @DaRza17 10 років тому

    Hey Jose! You should stop telling other people what to do and mine your own business ; )

  • @ignantxxxninja
    @ignantxxxninja 9 років тому

    I know he calls it teasing, but he just talks about how THIS IS THE MOVE.. you can't find it? and this is the advance class; pffff...
    there's hardly any thought process explained in anything..
    i don't call this teaching.. i call this a this-is-what-you-do instructional video to a very specific game