My Creality works great, it's my first printer, it only cost me $240, I solved some problems by watching videos, like centering the Z axis, I also tightened all the screws, several were a little loose, I put some rubber on the legs for vibrations, I installed some washers for the bed level and some paper for the rods that had play, the best of all is that I have a good time improving the printer, that's the fun part, not just printing things, "Sometimes the destination is not so important but the journey" Me 2024
Hi. Nice mod. I didn't like linear rail upgrade as well. Yours is very easy to upgrade. Only thing I would do different, I would use grub screws to fix the rods in place(in front). Also silicone spacers instead of original plastic spacers. Spacers upgrade is huge for the mesh because you can tighten the screw as you need, they don't bottom out so you can fine tune and calibration holds longer. Again nice mod. Thank's
Just did this swap on my ke and it went pretty smoothly. Only issue was the two front factory screws had been tightened to the point I had to use an extractor bit to pull them out (not an issue really, since the kit includes longer ones.) Drastically improved my z-level and feels more stable now.
I got my kit about a couple weeks ago and just now got around to installing it. Your video here was clear and concise and the parts provided are beyond exceptoinal. I appreciate the drawing package for the rods to check dimensions and tolerances (they were almost close, but still workable). A couple things I have to critique: 1) My range initially started around 0.6mm, and I got it down to around 0.49 ish. Part of it will havve to do with lightly adjusting the screws that mount the bed to the carraige. 2) The shipping took longer than anticipated. However as a machinist myself, I understand mostly the reasonings since it takes time to source materials, and machine everything to absolute spec...not to also mention I presume your small business model means printing time and post-processing plays here too. Digressing from that, perhaps I would suggest looking into a different shipping method, as my order took four days longer than anticipated to arrive at my address...due to the order sitting at one carrier, only to be passed off to someone completely different out of the blue. Overall it seems it was developing worth the wait. I do feel a stronger, if not more rigid/solid bed formation here--with little to no bed slop/play.
I wonder if anyone has tried replacing those plastic spacers on the bed with the Creality Silicone bed mounts. My only thought is that plastic probably wears over time due to all of the heat and could cause the bed to become less stable over time while the silicone bed mounts wouldn't have this issue. Probably a worthy experiment with only $9 in parts.
Hey I'm finding that if I print a plate of identical thickness pieces the parts towards the front of the plate are roughly 1mm thinner than the others, would this be improved/fixed with this upgrade?
It could be for a few reasons. Before you spend money, check to see if your two vertical frame members are square to your print bed (ie. they are not tilted front to back) as this might be contributing to something weird happening like a wedge shape result. In the video you could see I had a front / back slope in my bed mesh before the rod upgrade... honestly I don't really know why because the frame was pretty square - but the rods did fix it. I can't guarantee that it will do the same for you but there is a possibility.
I bought and installed this with the silicone spacers, and it made a big difference. I realized the lower support bed is bent too far out of spec and needs to be replaced with something better that's truly flat.
Becareful with the front two screws. My bed did not clear and when I tighten the screw it caused the screw housing to popped out.. It doesn't seem too bad and I will attempt to glue it in to ensure it stays in place.
I've had 2 KE printers and not by choice. My first one was defective. It would not print a 1st layer so it was replaced. My current one has never achieved a "perfect" first layer nor any smooth prints. Close to smooth and close to "perfect" first layer but definitely something is wrong. I've exhausted almost all software calibration remedies and am moving back to hardware adjustments like belt and rod tensions. The main issue is that, when printing the same file back to back with no changes at all, the prints will be night and day. Also, I can make 6 decent prints in a row and out of the blue the 7th will be a disaster with absolutely no changes including filament. How does one troubleshoot something so random. After viewing countless videos and forums about the Creality printers I've come to the conclusion they have some ongoing quality control issues. I'm leaning towards a Bambu or Prusa but the Bambu is proprietary parts and the Prusa is a bit above my budget for what I'm doing now. My only alternative is to try and tweak my KE. That being said, thanks for this video. 😀
I can't believe that Creality continues to release a bunch of printers with clear issues just to save a few dollars for the consumer, but it leads to needed mods and consumer tinkering time. Some of these issues should just not be present on a budget printer anymore period. It's not designed for tinkerers, it's just cash grabbing.
Yes there are some simple quality checks that could have been done to prevent the majority of these issues and they could still offer the machine at the same low price. I think on these cheaper units they just get them out the door sadly. On the newer V3 core xz it seems much better put together.
Why would you go from a solid aluminum frame to a hallow plastic base frame and weak z gantry, and people are buying them up like they are next lvl. Creality cutting too many corners, and have abandoned making good 3d printers.
To be honest, it’s a cheap printer. Whenever something is cheap there ARE going to be issues without a doubt, some just not permanent thought. When a cheap thing can be upgraded I see that as a very very good thing because that means you could possibly turn it into a print that would cost around $500
Interesting, are there holes for the screws and they're just not installed? Send me an email through my website: embracemaking.com/pages/contact and we can figure it out, I'd love to see some pictures.
Yeah, I messed up. I took the spacers out of mine and after finding that the two right ones were longer, I sanded them down to match the left ones. Crap! Are there metal ones I can buy?
Mike from NeedItMakeIt has also been developing mods for the Ender 3 V3 KE to try to fix its various short falls. After figuring out there was awful bed shake at the corners of the print bed, ruining quality, he made a pretty solid rod and bed mounting upgrade too. There were big issues with the alignment of the rods and how loose the bearings were on them. He has other fixes and upgrades to help with quality as well. However, the extruder still has fundamental flaws leading to quality issues. Creality really needs to get back to basics and make better printers if they don't want to be constantly ridiculed.
@@802Garage and what is happening? I own Bambu A1 and Ender 3 KE and really I don't see any difference in prints. Maybe you got broken one? Try too give it back and take new one. Or maybe people are so "sick" of china stuff and only criticize all of them products. I understand that Tesla, Bambu is amurican but you know that 99% parts of them is from china? :D
@@billy.the.maker. Nope you've got it all wrong. This isn't even my analysis, but an aggregate from a ton of people who even design and build 3D printers. I'm also not opposed to Chinse products in general. Almost all consumer 3D printers are made in China. Bambu Lab is not American. They have a business location in Texas, sure, but the development and production is still Chinese. I'm actually not a Bambu fan boy, but the A1 extruder design is superior for pure quality. It is a large single gear extruder. I actually like Creality, but they do make mistakes on their printer designs and rush releases. The K1 series for example has had numerous issues including the extruder.
@@billy.the.maker. For most consumers, the quality difference is negligible. For discerning people who want really perfect prints, the extruder design makes a big difference. I recommend the videos "What I've learned about dual gear extruders and how to patch them, maybe" by MihaiDesigns and "DUAL-DRIVE Gear EXTRUDERS SUCKS? (GALILEO 2 vs ORBITER V2 & P1S vs A1)" by PRINTING PERSPECTIVE. They will explain far better than I can here.
9:15 correct me if I'm wrong, so if they just sort of push in like that with what seems to be like not much force then when it's all assembled simply pulling up slightly on the bed will pull it off the bearing, so even just simply removing the magnetic bed plate could possible pull off the whole bed??
what about speed, did it improve the max print speed (accells) with Resonances test? my Se only is stable at 3k, I dont know about stock ke, but stock se is 3k max without any artifats or other issues.
Your original rods have play in them? I have had a customer who did the upgrade and does not have the screws and they reported back with my kit that everything worked out fine. The fit of the holes on the frame should be snug.
I would be more than happy to sell to Turkey, some countries arent on the checkout because of shipping quotes. If you use the contact form here: embracemaking.com/pages/contact just be sure to let me know what you want and your address and I'll get you a good quote. Thanks!
Sigh.....having just bought the Ender V3 SE model .......do i really need to "improve" what is now a very high quality printer compared to the first model that came out in 2018 or so or when I bought mine and haven't used it due to upgrades, I thought I needed but didn't use.......now when the V3 model arrives it will get put to printing right out of the box.......no messing about doing upgrades that take time and put printing on the back burner.........sometimes you just have to be realistic and get on with it.otherwise I'll trip over my beard..
Why doesn't Creality use jigs and alignment checks. It makes me question spending 1500usd with them when BL is out there. I think BL is good for making Creality to step up since the gap between Creality and Prusa was big. Now there is BL capturing the lower end of Prusa and the upper end of Creality.
For sure - I have an A1 that I am working on reviewing right now - I'm very impressed. Creality's higher end models seem like they do a much better job now than they used to. My K1C has been excellent and my K1 Max has also been very good. I have four Ender 3 V3 core xz and those have been really good too. The lower end models... hit and miss with the quality control.
ua-cam.com/video/vzOEuqaEv_4/v-deo.html don't make the adjustment to the bed. make the adjustment to the frame below it on the sides. What happens if your bed is unlevel? I would do this after removing the build plate.
They're $50 - you might be seeing the full price in the UA-cam listing, I'm not sure if they show promo sales. I might decide to increase it to 60 in the future.. normally I'm not one to find it necessary to justify my price - maybe it seems like a lot on the surface but I don't have the luxury of buying things in the 10000s and enjoying massive volume discount. The rods require machining (they aren't just plain 10mm rods) so I'm not paying for just regular rods, there is a labor cost in them plus shipping a box of stainless rods to me costs hundreds of dollars due to the weight. By the time I divide it out I pay $9 per rod and there are two in a kit... the multi jet prints are also very expensive - almost $7 each, also two of those - so roughly $32 in cost already, and then the hardware, packaging + the labor I have to pay someone to do the heat inserts, pack the product / handle them / store them / maintain inventory. I can't do it all alone or I would never be able to make anything new or make videos. I'm now down to about $10 left per kit which some of that goes towards all of my other operational costs - and depending on how you pay with paypal or credit card I get dinged another 3-5% fees plus the taxes I pay on any profits. Hopefully you can see how it adds up quickly... on the promo price I'm walking away with very little profit and I have a small platform - I'll be lucky if I even manage to sell out my inventory.
Yes on this machine there are still issues that need resolving that some QC could have fixed - the price is attractive but it's still a hobbyist machine that needs attention in some areas. I'm hoping that newer machines aren't shipping like this but I'm not holding my breath... the V3 core xz seems like they paid a lot closer attention to the quality though.
At$ 229 from Microcenter... I considered it a pretty good deal but if I throw much more money at it then I could have bought myself a flashforge 5m... it does pretty well for a bed slinger My 5 m. that I also own out does it and quality every time and speed @@EmbraceMaking
What a lot of people in these comments aren't realizing is the V3 KE still prints just fine out of the box for the majority of people, at high speeds. All of this modding, while beneficial to people who want to tinker, is just chasing the dragon for moderately better prints. These can be had for $180-$200, what do you expect?
A better option would be to STOP BUYING CRUELITY PRINTERS! Not even their flagship printers comes without problems, they even shipped K1 printers with bad extruders.
@@leonyltupasan yep. I have one of the biggest printer farm in my country and have a very reputable repair shop for 3d printers. The most horrible problems even from the box comes from 2 brands: Cruelity and Artillery with cruelity getting the worst.
@@christopherismcaceas4868 support is non existent. A few years ago I've bought a brand new cruelity CR-10 Smart wich was supposed to be their flagship at the time, that POS fried the board right before ending the first print. As it was under guarantee I took it to the seller and had to wait 3 month to get a replacement board just to wait 3 more month because it arrived with the SOC burnt sealed in the box from the factory. Why I had to wait for the replacement? Because cruelity asked ridiculously big "minimum" orders for resellers to ship them parts, so the f*cking board wasn't available in the whole continent! (South America by the way). I know that because a friend of mine was the only official reseller for cruelity in my country and I saw the mails with the exorbitant MOQs.
@@FelipeGonzalezHerrera The reason you mostly get Creality products in for repair is because Creality outsells all others 5 to 1 due to their affordability, amongst many other things. So, with that in mind, of course repair centers would see more Creality. That is nothing to say of the dependability. For every 1 printer you have in your shop, there are 500 others that are working great. If their printers were soooo bad, then why do they sell so much? It's not because of naivety or ignorance (like Apple buyers) why everyone owns a Creality printer. It's because of price and that you get a pretty good printer that works great for the normal person. "Mic Drop!"
My Creality works great, it's my first printer, it only cost me $240, I solved some problems by watching videos, like centering the Z axis, I also tightened all the screws, several were a little loose, I put some rubber on the legs for vibrations, I installed some washers for the bed level and some paper for the rods that had play, the best of all is that I have a good time improving the printer, that's the fun part, not just printing things, "Sometimes the destination is not so important but the journey" Me 2024
Hi. Nice mod. I didn't like linear rail upgrade as well. Yours is very easy to upgrade. Only thing I would do different, I would use grub screws to fix the rods in place(in front). Also silicone spacers instead of original plastic spacers. Spacers upgrade is huge for the mesh because you can tighten the screw as you need, they don't bottom out so you can fine tune and calibration holds longer. Again nice mod. Thank's
It's a good idea - I should be able to source those for the future!
Just did this swap on my ke and it went pretty smoothly. Only issue was the two front factory screws had been tightened to the point I had to use an extractor bit to pull them out (not an issue really, since the kit includes longer ones.)
Drastically improved my z-level and feels more stable now.
I got my kit about a couple weeks ago and just now got around to installing it. Your video here was clear and concise and the parts provided are beyond exceptoinal. I appreciate the drawing package for the rods to check dimensions and tolerances (they were almost close, but still workable).
A couple things I have to critique: 1) My range initially started around 0.6mm, and I got it down to around 0.49 ish. Part of it will havve to do with lightly adjusting the screws that mount the bed to the carraige. 2) The shipping took longer than anticipated. However as a machinist myself, I understand mostly the reasonings since it takes time to source materials, and machine everything to absolute spec...not to also mention I presume your small business model means printing time and post-processing plays here too. Digressing from that, perhaps I would suggest looking into a different shipping method, as my order took four days longer than anticipated to arrive at my address...due to the order sitting at one carrier, only to be passed off to someone completely different out of the blue.
Overall it seems it was developing worth the wait. I do feel a stronger, if not more rigid/solid bed formation here--with little to no bed slop/play.
I wonder if anyone has tried replacing those plastic spacers on the bed with the Creality Silicone bed mounts. My only thought is that plastic probably wears over time due to all of the heat and could cause the bed to become less stable over time while the silicone bed mounts wouldn't have this issue. Probably a worthy experiment with only $9 in parts.
Hey I'm finding that if I print a plate of identical thickness pieces the parts towards the front of the plate are roughly 1mm thinner than the others, would this be improved/fixed with this upgrade?
It could be for a few reasons. Before you spend money, check to see if your two vertical frame members are square to your print bed (ie. they are not tilted front to back) as this might be contributing to something weird happening like a wedge shape result. In the video you could see I had a front / back slope in my bed mesh before the rod upgrade... honestly I don't really know why because the frame was pretty square - but the rods did fix it. I can't guarantee that it will do the same for you but there is a possibility.
I bought and installed this with the silicone spacers, and it made a big difference. I realized the lower support bed is bent too far out of spec and needs to be replaced with something better that's truly flat.
Thanks for the feedback, really glad it made a difference!
What parte did you use to replace/fix that?
Becareful with the front two screws. My bed did not clear and when I tighten the screw it caused the screw housing to popped out.. It doesn't seem too bad and I will attempt to glue it in to ensure it stays in place.
I've had 2 KE printers and not by choice. My first one was defective. It would not print a 1st layer so it was replaced. My current one has never achieved a "perfect" first layer nor any smooth prints. Close to smooth and close to "perfect" first layer but definitely something is wrong. I've exhausted almost all software calibration remedies and am moving back to hardware adjustments like belt and rod tensions. The main issue is that, when printing the same file back to back with no changes at all, the prints will be night and day. Also, I can make 6 decent prints in a row and out of the blue the 7th will be a disaster with absolutely no changes including filament. How does one troubleshoot something so random. After viewing countless videos and forums about the Creality printers I've come to the conclusion they have some ongoing quality control issues. I'm leaning towards a Bambu or Prusa but the Bambu is proprietary parts and the Prusa is a bit above my budget for what I'm doing now. My only alternative is to try and tweak my KE. That being said, thanks for this video. 😀
I can't believe that Creality continues to release a bunch of printers with clear issues just to save a few dollars for the consumer, but it leads to needed mods and consumer tinkering time. Some of these issues should just not be present on a budget printer anymore period. It's not designed for tinkerers, it's just cash grabbing.
Yes there are some simple quality checks that could have been done to prevent the majority of these issues and they could still offer the machine at the same low price. I think on these cheaper units they just get them out the door sadly. On the newer V3 core xz it seems much better put together.
Why would you go from a solid aluminum frame to a hallow plastic base frame and weak z gantry, and people are buying them up like they are next lvl. Creality cutting too many corners, and have abandoned making good 3d printers.
I can’t believe people still buy ender 3s or really any creality printers 😂
@@kitchenbriks3685 you so smart :D
To be honest, it’s a cheap printer. Whenever something is cheap there ARE going to be issues without a doubt, some just not permanent thought. When a cheap thing can be upgraded I see that as a very very good thing because that means you could possibly turn it into a print that would cost around $500
just pull the bearings up and down slightly at an angle to the rail and tighten the screws. no modifications needed.
My V3 KE doesn't have the two screws in the front. Does your 10mm rod kit take that into account?
Interesting, are there holes for the screws and they're just not installed? Send me an email through my website: embracemaking.com/pages/contact and we can figure it out, I'd love to see some pictures.
@@EmbraceMakingI sent you an email and I can send pictures. There are no holes whatsoever in that spot.
I've just got my KE a couple of weeks back and it also doesn't have the front grub screws, so thinking the newst versions don't have them
MY PEOPLE!
@@EmbraceMaking No holes on my new KE
Yeah, I messed up. I took the spacers out of mine and after finding that the two right ones were longer, I sanded them down to match the left ones. Crap! Are there metal ones I can buy?
Mike from NeedItMakeIt has also been developing mods for the Ender 3 V3 KE to try to fix its various short falls. After figuring out there was awful bed shake at the corners of the print bed, ruining quality, he made a pretty solid rod and bed mounting upgrade too. There were big issues with the alignment of the rods and how loose the bearings were on them. He has other fixes and upgrades to help with quality as well. However, the extruder still has fundamental flaws leading to quality issues. Creality really needs to get back to basics and make better printers if they don't want to be constantly ridiculed.
what is wrong with the extruder?
@@billy.the.maker. Small dual gears that aren't supported on both sides of the axle, primarily.
@@802Garage and what is happening? I own Bambu A1 and Ender 3 KE and really I don't see any difference in prints. Maybe you got broken one? Try too give it back and take new one. Or maybe people are so "sick" of china stuff and only criticize all of them products. I understand that Tesla, Bambu is amurican but you know that 99% parts of them is from china? :D
@@billy.the.maker. Nope you've got it all wrong. This isn't even my analysis, but an aggregate from a ton of people who even design and build 3D printers. I'm also not opposed to Chinse products in general. Almost all consumer 3D printers are made in China. Bambu Lab is not American. They have a business location in Texas, sure, but the development and production is still Chinese. I'm actually not a Bambu fan boy, but the A1 extruder design is superior for pure quality. It is a large single gear extruder. I actually like Creality, but they do make mistakes on their printer designs and rush releases. The K1 series for example has had numerous issues including the extruder.
@@billy.the.maker. For most consumers, the quality difference is negligible. For discerning people who want really perfect prints, the extruder design makes a big difference. I recommend the videos "What I've learned about dual gear extruders and how to patch them, maybe" by MihaiDesigns and "DUAL-DRIVE Gear EXTRUDERS SUCKS? (GALILEO 2 vs ORBITER V2 & P1S vs A1)" by PRINTING PERSPECTIVE. They will explain far better than I can here.
Great video, I will certainly visit your web site and purchase the Y axis upgrade.
Thank you Michael!
Ordered one. Patiently waiting. ☺
9:15 correct me if I'm wrong, so if they just sort of push in like that with what seems to be like not much force then when it's all assembled simply pulling up slightly on the bed will pull it off the bearing, so even just simply removing the magnetic bed plate could possible pull off the whole bed??
what about speed, did it improve the max print speed (accells) with Resonances test? my Se only is stable at 3k, I dont know about stock ke, but stock se is 3k max without any artifats or other issues.
My 3V3 KE doesn't have the two screws in the front that tighten down the Y rods... How do I go about getting the play out?
Your original rods have play in them? I have had a customer who did the upgrade and does not have the screws and they reported back with my kit that everything worked out fine. The fit of the holes on the frame should be snug.
this does the same function as the liner rail upgrade?
Hey, what is the Y axis Timing Belt Pulley Teeth number? please on creality Ender 3 v3 ke
It's a pity that you don't sell to Turkey
I would be more than happy to sell to Turkey, some countries arent on the checkout because of shipping quotes. If you use the contact form here: embracemaking.com/pages/contact just be sure to let me know what you want and your address and I'll get you a good quote. Thanks!
Sigh.....having just bought the Ender V3 SE model .......do i really need to "improve" what is now a very high quality printer compared to the first model that came out in 2018 or so or when I bought mine and haven't used it due to upgrades, I thought I needed but didn't use.......now when the V3 model arrives it will get put to printing right out of the box.......no messing about doing upgrades that take time and put printing on the back burner.........sometimes you just have to be realistic and get on with it.otherwise I'll trip over my beard..
Why doesn't Creality use jigs and alignment checks. It makes me question spending 1500usd with them when BL is out there. I think BL is good for making Creality to step up since the gap between Creality and Prusa was big. Now there is BL capturing the lower end of Prusa and the upper end of Creality.
For sure - I have an A1 that I am working on reviewing right now - I'm very impressed. Creality's higher end models seem like they do a much better job now than they used to. My K1C has been excellent and my K1 Max has also been very good. I have four Ender 3 V3 core xz and those have been really good too. The lower end models... hit and miss with the quality control.
What is the name of the software you use in the video to see the leveling of the plate thanks
I need it too, did u find it ?
My ender 3v3 se always prints the first layer under extruded but the rest of the print is perfect. How do i fix that?
Slicer settings. Search for first/initial layer flow
Cool mod, $60 delivery to Australia though 😥
Send me your address / shipping details through my website here and I'm sure I can get you a better quote. Thanks! embracemaking.com/pages/contact
ua-cam.com/video/vzOEuqaEv_4/v-deo.html don't make the adjustment to the bed. make the adjustment to the frame below it on the sides. What happens if your bed is unlevel? I would do this after removing the build plate.
$60 Dollars!!!? What are the rods made of gold-plated Unobtainium ?👽🤪
They're $50 - you might be seeing the full price in the UA-cam listing, I'm not sure if they show promo sales. I might decide to increase it to 60 in the future.. normally I'm not one to find it necessary to justify my price - maybe it seems like a lot on the surface but I don't have the luxury of buying things in the 10000s and enjoying massive volume discount. The rods require machining (they aren't just plain 10mm rods) so I'm not paying for just regular rods, there is a labor cost in them plus shipping a box of stainless rods to me costs hundreds of dollars due to the weight. By the time I divide it out I pay $9 per rod and there are two in a kit... the multi jet prints are also very expensive - almost $7 each, also two of those - so roughly $32 in cost already, and then the hardware, packaging + the labor I have to pay someone to do the heat inserts, pack the product / handle them / store them / maintain inventory. I can't do it all alone or I would never be able to make anything new or make videos. I'm now down to about $10 left per kit which some of that goes towards all of my other operational costs - and depending on how you pay with paypal or credit card I get dinged another 3-5% fees plus the taxes I pay on any profits. Hopefully you can see how it adds up quickly... on the promo price I'm walking away with very little profit and I have a small platform - I'll be lucky if I even manage to sell out my inventory.
Raw material cost is really low, they're probably machined to be straight within 0.01mm and that's why they're expensive.
Yet another Ender 3 iteration. They fix 1 thing and new problems arise. At this price there are plenty of better options.
Yes on this machine there are still issues that need resolving that some QC could have fixed - the price is attractive but it's still a hobbyist machine that needs attention in some areas. I'm hoping that newer machines aren't shipping like this but I'm not holding my breath... the V3 core xz seems like they paid a lot closer attention to the quality though.
At$ 229 from Microcenter... I considered it a pretty good deal but if I throw much more money at it then I could have bought myself a flashforge 5m... it does pretty well for a bed slinger My 5 m. that I also own out does it and quality every time and speed @@EmbraceMaking
What a lot of people in these comments aren't realizing is the V3 KE still prints just fine out of the box for the majority of people, at high speeds. All of this modding, while beneficial to people who want to tinker, is just chasing the dragon for moderately better prints. These can be had for $180-$200, what do you expect?
A better option would be to STOP BUYING CRUELITY PRINTERS! Not even their flagship printers comes without problems, they even shipped K1 printers with bad extruders.
really?
@@leonyltupasan yep. I have one of the biggest printer farm in my country and have a very reputable repair shop for 3d printers. The most horrible problems even from the box comes from 2 brands: Cruelity and Artillery with cruelity getting the worst.
@@FelipeGonzalezHerrera Support sucks as well.
@@christopherismcaceas4868 support is non existent. A few years ago I've bought a brand new cruelity CR-10 Smart wich was supposed to be their flagship at the time, that POS fried the board right before ending the first print. As it was under guarantee I took it to the seller and had to wait 3 month to get a replacement board just to wait 3 more month because it arrived with the SOC burnt sealed in the box from the factory.
Why I had to wait for the replacement? Because cruelity asked ridiculously big "minimum" orders for resellers to ship them parts, so the f*cking board wasn't available in the whole continent! (South America by the way). I know that because a friend of mine was the only official reseller for cruelity in my country and I saw the mails with the exorbitant MOQs.
@@FelipeGonzalezHerrera The reason you mostly get Creality products in for repair is because Creality outsells all others 5 to 1 due to their affordability, amongst many other things. So, with that in mind, of course repair centers would see more Creality.
That is nothing to say of the dependability. For every 1 printer you have in your shop, there are 500 others that are working great.
If their printers were soooo bad, then why do they sell so much? It's not because of naivety or ignorance (like Apple buyers) why everyone owns a Creality printer. It's because of price and that you get a pretty good printer that works great for the normal person.
"Mic Drop!"