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Magic And Bird: A Rivalry Gives Way To Friendship REACTION
Did Bird start this?| Magic And Bird: A Rivalry Gives Way To Friendship REACTION
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It's not possible to seperate Bird and Magic. They've together made history.
Agreed
I've read the first part of the book they co-wrote and they both had a hard time accepting that they were going to be intertwined forever, neither liked it, but that went away obviously.
Not only the greatest rival in sports but the greatest friendship.
Also, Magic Johnson IS the best storyteller!!! He’s a born entertainer whether it’s on the court or off. He’s got a knack for making people relaxed & happy…
So true...
I’m a huge Larry Bird fan and Larry definitely started it. And after learning magics personality and demeanor I became a magic fan to. You got to see magic and Larry and David letterman on UA-cam. That’ll explain it all. That being said magic was a great basketball player but I think bird had an edge on him when it came down to the mental part of the game. Great reaction
Excellent recommendation
Larry is the better overall player skills wise. Magic had the better team, and he played slightly longer which gave him a little boost in some of his numbers…but Larry can do more, and except for assists (and turnovers 😂) leads in most categories. Their careers are so similar though, that their win loss difference is virtually neck & neck. If you take out Magics extra games (when he unretired) they are almost tied.
Larry has admitted he was the one who shut Magic out. I love Magic as a person…as Larry says “Magic makes everyone feel warm & welcome” but Larry needed to keep his edge. He couldn’t let Magic in & still keep his edge, so Larry never let his guard down. Not until they retired. I hope you’ll react to Courtship of Rivals Documentary, it’s really very good 😌
This rivalry really has it's roots in the NCAA Championship game.
Bird started it for sure.
There wasn’t any hatred, they were both very competitive. Don’t let Magic fool you, he wanted to get an edge as well.
That's why he wanted to shake Larry's hand. Larry on the other end of the spectrum repelled anything Magic was pushing
People from your generation don't know but this is really well known among us older people.
Not only is there a documentary that this was cut from but there was a Broadway play called Magic,Bird and a book they wrote together called " When the game was Ours". They did talk show appearances to publicize them. So yeah it is well known.
Bird is the better player I think. Magic had Kareem and the West was the weaker division back then.
Magic is still the best point guard ever though. Bird had more competition at small forward.
Bird started it, he never got over the NCAA Chamionship loss to the Spartans which Magic was the cause of the dislike, I would not say it was Hate. This is part of "A Courtship of Rivals" which is about an hour and a half...Magic had much more athleticism and smoother, but to be completly honest, I believe Bird was just a little better, till he broke his back in the summer of the 86 season.
Larry Bird had a general rule that he was there to do a job, not to be friends with his rivals. There’s stories of him putting his hands behind his back when players from the other team would go to shake his hand before a game. It just wasn’t his style. But as he says in that clip, he didn’t care much for Magic, but he loved Earvin. In fact there is a part of that documentary when Magic is diagnosed with HIV. They interview Larry Bird, and you can see the look of devastation on his face. He said it was comparable to the death by suicide of his father. He didn’t want to play anymore; basketball didn’t hold interest for him anymore. I would truly suggest watching the entire documentary of Bird and Magic: A Courtship of Rivals. You’ll get to know these two men separately and as rivals/enemies/friends very well. It’s a beautiful thing. And, I have Larry as the better all-around player just by a little bit. But just in case you can’t tell, I love them both! They have brought me a lot of joy over the 30-ish years that I have been watching them.
I agree with everything except I give Larry a little more of the edge. You could look at it like this totally random thought to get my full meaning. This is hypothetical:
Magic slept with 40DD's as his pillow. Bird used yesterdays game ball.
@@andybilakshow260 I totally agree… Larry has the edge easily. When he played basketball, it was his life. I have basically heard him say that when you have a job to do, whatever it is, you do it the best you can, and never give up. I think he was born with an innate ability to excel at both playing and understanding basketball, and was raised with a very intense work ethic.
You should watch the entire HBO documentary - A Courtship of Rivals. It's really really good. This video you just watched is a small piece of it.
This came from the 1hr 27 min video, courtship of rivals. It is worth watching and reacting too. So many of your questions and perceptions about Magic and Bird will be answered. Magic said he wanted to shake Larry's hand and be friends, but Bird didn't feel the same. It was never hate but compitition. Both players had the same leadership and drive to win. Larry felt he'd lose that edge if they were friends. Magic on the other hand could be your fun charming friend off the court, but on the court his deminer changed and it was all business. I love both Magic and Bird as players and as men. If you don't react to the long courtship of rivals video please watch for yourself when you can. It's worth your time imho.
Larry didn’t respect too many people. Magic ate at his mom’s table, he respected him.
3:54 Bird cultivated the rivalry to get an edge, yet that College championship game cemented the rivalry.
Bird wouldn't be friends with the enemy. Magic could act all buddy buddy with you, give you that toothy grin and still go for your throat. Bird couldn't. As Bird has said, you're there for a reason. You're there to win. It's why he wouldn't be friendly with Magic even back when they were playing together at the World Invitational Tournament. Bird knew they were going to meet again one day..on opposite teams. Both were great all around players. They could score, rebound, and though neither was a great individual defender, they both played excellent team defense (Bird was good enough at it that he made 2nd team all defense three times). But most important, both could pass the ball better than anybody, and they both made their teammates better to a greater degree than anybody save Bill Russell. That's the main reason why neither of them ever played on a losing squad. However, as Olden Polynice pointed out, Bird was better at creating his own offense all the way out to the three point line. And Bird was definitely better in the clutch. Both were great..top 3 IMO. But advantage Bird (BTW, the other guy in my top 3 is not Jordan. It's Russell).
I like the way you think! 👍
They were competitors 100%, even after the commercial shoot. But they respected each other.
Yeah, but after this shoot, you could see Larry fist bump Magic on the court before a game...
I'm a Celtic guy. I've got to be like you, i've got to be 100. The black Magic on the west coast, limousines, fancy clothes and the night life. Fits Magic like a glove.
Larry the hick from French Lick. East coast, blue collar, drives a pickup a middle class vehicle, and drinks beer. That's Boston.
Magic makes everyone feel important. He likes people to like him (that's a good quality and so misunderstood) . He's naturally kind.
Larry more of an introvert. Didn't care if you didn't like him. Which a lot of people took as rude.
I think race had a lot to do with it. Cedric Maxwell said, as Larry was walking in to practice, here comes the white savoir. He said it loud enough for Larry to hear him. In an interview Max said black players at the time were racist in the sense they didn't think you could find a white guy who could play as good as any black guy. He had a point. The fans knew it. Black players were dominating the game. With people today being soooo sensitive no one will say what they're thinking. White people were proud that a white guy can be as good as any black guy. In a sport where white players were at a disadvantage because they don't have the jumping ability and the rest of the physical attributes as black players. Just Facts..
"Started it" or "at fault" are poor terminology. I've been a huge Larry Bird fan since he started with the Celtics when I was 7. He's absolutely the initiator of the rivalry because of his competitive spirit. He didn't like to shake hands with the "enemy". On this day, while filming this commercial, while magic was eating the lunch that Bird's mom made is when they became friends. Larry became friends with "Ervin", not Magic, as they said... he found that that Ervin was a great guy...
Having been a fan of every Boston team and having Bird on the court from my age 7 to 20, naturally I was a huge Bird fan and he was the greatest thing going, although Magic (who i never gave proper credit to until he retired) was right there with him and I still refer to my top three as Jordan Bird Magic in no order. It can differ from day to day depending on what I've just seen one of them do
This is THE most epic documentary I’ve ever seen.
There is a reason Birds nickname is "the hick from french lick". That's where he grew up.
Thanks for all your vids, and especially that you just talk about the person/player/team and never use the words black or white or even race. I became a Celtics fan in 1964 for a very unusual reason. I knew of Bill Russel but that was the extent of my basketball knowledge. When Magic took over for Kareem in center against the 76'ers, I thought Magic was the best player, being able to do that. My friend always talked about "Dr. J making a house call", but then Magic was diminating the 76'ers, he had to be the best. Magic was a very outgoing fun peson and Bird was very introverted and not so friendly. So Bird, along with the college finals game, and then both in the greatest of opposing NBA/East coast/West coast teams, "created" the rivalry. Then when the NBA started airing the finals at my dinner time and I learned about Bird then. However I still thought Magic was the best, because there was no UA-cam and highlight videos of the different players. But Magic said it best on David Letterman; He was the better Guard and Bird was the better Forward. If I had to hire only one for my team, it would be Bird, but a very difficult decision.
They would say hello to each other when they both rode the bench for Joe B Hall in the World Invitational in 1978. Ahead of the NCAA final in 79 Birds teammates got between Magic and Bird so there was no interaction. Their rookie year Bird fouled Magic unnecessarily hard and at that point Magic thought "Ok it's gonna be like that" so from 79-84 there was not much said between the two players....until the commercial when Bird informed Magic that Mom had prepared lunch. After that the mutual respect grew into friendship. Who on earth could better understand each other as both were the best 2 players on the best 2 teams for years. And both came from very humble beginnings, blue collar working class, respected their parents and their work ethic and from that adopted their own. Jordan was the same but never had an equal opposite during his reign. This is what separates Magic, Bird and Jordan from the others. Unlimited drive, killer instinct, willing to look in the mirror and work harder, and harder than anyone else. The morning after the Celtics beat the Lakers in 1984 Quinn Buckner went to Bird's house and Larry wasn't there, he was out running. When Bird returned Buckner asked him what he was doing and Bird replied "Getting ready for next year"
Bird started it but I can't really say it's his "fault." It was just a personality clash. Bird is the ultimate introvert. He was so shy Indiana was too big for him so he switched to Indiana state for college. Magic is the ultimate extrovert. He's the ultimate showman, always handles the spotlight like he was born for it. So yeah Bird started it, but I think he was just so socially awkward and competitive he just didn't know what to do and didn't shake magics hand.
your answer sums it up nicely. 👍
They spoke about that while with the Dream Team. They'd be on the way to the lobby of a hotel they were staying and there's fans and media waiting. Magic would walk to the crowd, giving Larry a chance to slip unnoticed out a side door.
Exactly, Bird even says in the documentary this video is taken from "I'm the one that did all that, to tell the truth" when talking about the rivalry. But it wasn't because he hated Magic, it was just that Magic was his greatest rival. Bird says that Magic is someone that can be friends off the court and still play his hardest against you come game time, but Bird couldn't play the same against someone if he became very good friends with him.
@@bigb2494 you seen the doc eh
Magic Johnson is the type of person that can shoot your dog in front of you, and you could not hate him. He just oozes personality. He has the very rare star quality, and this is coming from a diehard Celtic and Larry Bird fan. Much respect to Irving Johnson.
You can’t pick who’s better. It’s like picking what’s better, your heart or your lungs or your eyes or your stomach.
They are one!
you need to check out don't know the title but just plug in when magic got AIDs and how he found who his true friends were , very touching and abviously larry bird is part of the story
Hats of the the legend Magic Johnson for saying "Ok I'll go visit the hickin French Lick since he won't come here" That's just Magic. Always obliging no matter what
They needed each other to make them as great as they both were. You had to be there in 79/80 to understand the rivalry these two had. When they were playing each other on a Sunday, nobody went anywhere, everyone stayed in to watch. The NBA ratings went through the roof when these two great players came into the league. I grew up in
NH and was a Celtic fan and hated the Lakers, but loved watching this rivalry anytime they played each other.
Bird and Magic actually played together for the USA at the 1978 World Invitational Tournament. This was almost a full year before they met as rivals in the NCAA Championship game. Although the USA won the tournament the MVP went to Dragen Kicanovic of Yugoslavia who averaged 21 points a game. Neither Bird or Magic made the All Tournament Team.
Bird started friction; he was there to win not make friends. Bird was a little more of a complete player but, Magic accomplished more. I think they should be remembered as equals.
Larry the legend Bird is a great all around player
Totally different cats here. I love both of them. The NBA can use more like them but I doubt they exist
I’d love to see you react to the documentary, Courtship Of Rivals. It’s 1 1/2 hrs long, most people break it down in different videos. I think you’d love it-it answers all of the questions and commentary you were asking in this video.
One of the best documentaries, let alone sports ones, ever made.
Absolutely Bird started it! try had no interest in being friendly with any rival and included Magic AND Jordan! Larry said that Magic had that real great warm smile and Larry wanted to two or three of those teeth home with him after the game! Absolutely Larry started IT!
It's nobody's fault. They were just hyper competitors. Who's the best?...🤔...they both are!
Bird and Magic is synonymous you can't say one without the other... Magic got more rings but Bird injured his back that it made it near impossible for him to play at his best. HOWEVER if you can take a step back and look at their careers collectively, together nobody stood a chance. They held Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons to two rings and the Philadelphia 76ers to 1 one. The rest of the 80's belonged to the Celtics and the Lakers... Imagine just Imagine if they had been on the same team... They held Michael Jordan back, they held the entire NBA and cemented both of their legacies in history together... If not for that classic rivalry of The Lakers and The Celtics compound that rivalry of Bird and Magic... That's a movie that played out in the NBA in 84 85 and 87...
84 Bird beat Magic 85 Magic beat Bird 87 Magic beat Bird again but injuries decimated the Boston squad and Birds back at that time was injured.
Us old heads always knew this. They are both KILLER competitors. They respected each other which is why to this day, the Celtics/Lakers Finals of the 80s were the best Finals ever. I am a guy from Chicago. Black Jesus is the G.O.A.T., but those 80s Finals was the best I ever saw. It's really hard to say who's better. I've tried, but I can't. Bird a better shooter, but Magic can shoot. Magic a better passer, but Bird drop dimes too. They're like the same dude which is weird af. They are both on my starting 5 as the best all-time for their position. Magic at PG and Bird at SF.
FRENCH LICK??? Larry Bird was born and raised in the small town of French Lick, Indiana, population today 1,792. Bird’s nickname was “the hick from French Lick”. As a child, he was accepted into a group of local black kids that played basketball together. He has been comfortable around black people all of his life and states, “he does not see color”. Probably his experiences, as a child have taught him this. So …the friendship between Bird and Johnson is the most natural thing in the world for them.
Larry is a good guy 🐐☘️
Bird started it. Im from Massachusetts remember watching bird when I was a kid.
I’m the biggest Larry Bird fan ever but it’s indisputable that Larry started it
Magic wouldn't even let his friends smoke a joint around him. He and Bird were just as alike as they were different. Their competition to be better than the other lifted them to even greater heights. Bird said being friends would change the way he played against him. He also felt like that would be a betrayal to his team, fans and the people paying him. When he was getting paid to go to work he went to work. He couldn't let a friendship compromise him.
Larry Legend The Great 💚☘️👑
They both started it at the exact same time. Magic had his angle Bird rejected it
Both great players. Magic was the better Guard...Bird the better Forward. Overall, Bird was definitely the more complete player because of his shooting. Both worked hard to improve. Magic was actually a pretty poor Free Throw shooter early on for a Guard..around 76%...and worked hard to improve and became a great Free Throw shooter...88-91% and led the league in FT% one season. Magic won the NCAA game because Mich St was just better. It wasn`t just Magic vs Bird...it was Bird vs Magic, Greg Kelser & Jay Vincent. Kelser avg 17.5 & 9.5 at Mich St. Plus, Kelser & Vincent were NBA players later on. People today, especially kids, are clueless about the great players of the 70s, 80s & 90s. Bird, Magic, Jordan, Malone (Karl & Moses), Stockton, Dr J, the underrated Hakeem Olajuwon ( some of his stat lines are crazy..one was a quadruple-double 18pts 16Reb 11 Blocks 10 Assists as a Center!). Many others.
THEY WERE BOTH COMPETITORS AND RIVALS AT FIRST, BUT THEY ENDED UP BECOMING REAL CLOSE FRIENDS. WHEN MAGIC WAS DIGNOSED WITH HIV, LARRY WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO CALL MAGIC AND TALK TO HIM.. EVEN WHEN SOME OF MAGICS TEAM MATES DID NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH HIM.. MAGIC GET EMTIONAL WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT LARRY REACHING OUT TO HIM AND HOW MUCH THAT MEANT TO HIM.
Bird went to coach. Coach of the year. Then moved to the front offices. Executive of the year
Both All-Pro players, Bird was a better shooter and rebounder. Both top playmakers.
You can't talk about who was the better player, because they fed off each other. I'm 67 years old, I watched it with my own eyes. There was those two, then there was the rest of the NBA. The only way you could answer that would be "Who was better? Do you mean Tuesday or Wednesday?"
Great point
Yeah...Us "oltimers" know all about this rivalry/friendship.
I grew up in Boston and watched the Celtics and lakers during this great time. I was a Larry Bird fan and hated Magic back then. Now I love them both as athletes and as people. Larry says straight out in this documentary he was responsible for the bad feelings between him and Magic. No reason to guess or try to take a side. Bird admits he didn't want to be friends with Magic while they were competing. There is no debate. Bird created the bad feelings between them. He admitted it.
As far as who I think is a better player . . . Bird by a nose. Literally and figuratively. I think he is just a better all around player because of him being a better shooter. But I would take either one of them and not feel disappointed. They are both right up there and very close in talent. Very close. Two of the best ever.
It was Birds fault. He didn’t want to be friends.
I'm 100% certain Bird started it 🤣. I'm a "Bird is 🐐" guy saying that.
They saved the NBA and became good friends.
# 1 BIRD # 2 JORDAN # 3 MAGIC
Best sports rivalry in history
Bird starts the rivalry
Bird
Bird is from French Lick, Indiana.
I will just say they both saved the NBA.
You know. They were both great players, and would be great in today's NBA too. I put Larry in the top 5 all-time, just because he was so damn clutch at the end of games and in the highest pressure situations. I put Magic in the top 10 all-time. Magic won more championships, but he also had a much better team. Multiple hall of famers. This is a great story though.
Larry was competetive. He didnt want friends. He wanted to keep it business. I hate those who try to blame someone. Both men were kind hearted. Stop trying to pull these guys apart. Stop seeking blame. Dont do that to my guys.
My top 5 is...
Bird
MJ
Magic
Dr J
Sir Charles...if you never seen him play watch his videos. The man was a beast
it started in college!
I don't think you could have Batman without having the joker. Who knows who is best but they both brought a lot to the game.
They both started it.
Friction between athletes is normal, the thing is, even if you are a great athlete there is no reason not to respect your opponent, little things like that can go a long way, yes we dont get along with everyone out there that is fine, but we as humans tend to judge others before knowing them, and that is our biggest mistake.
Good vid. As far as who is better?? I got Bird by a hair.
"Started" it? Man, you are trippin'. Started what? Their intense rivalry? It's this simple, dude. The fact that they had to play against each other, that they both would accept nothing less than victory, the media hype about the black/white superstar rivals, the East Coast West Coast thing, the Boston/Laker thing, and the fact that they played in an era where competition for Championships was NEVER friendly... All that and you think one of them had to do something to "Start" it? Neither one of them did anything to "start" it except be themselves, on those teams, at that time. Period. The better chance someone had to beat you, the less friendly it was gonna be. It was inevitable that the competition was not gonna be friendly. Jesus, you young people today just have no clue as to what real rivalries consist of, or what it was like back then. If nobody gave you a reason to be mad at them, then you invented one to motivate yourself. Today's athletes are wusses. Friendliness on the court in the middle of a series? These players today make me want to yuck up
Damn, you have the comment of the century!
@@msw8966 Thank you, I thought it was pretty on the nose.
@@msw8966 I also think that because today's athletes have very little loyalty to their cities, they don't feel it the way the one-team super-stars did back in the day. Less intense because they have less connection with the fans of their city. Many of the old fans have left for this reason, and the reason that they are now, as I said, wusses.
Today's game is friendly, I get it. Back in the day if you were an enemy that's what you were. When Magic and Bird squashed the beef I gave Bird respect. But Bird used to hurt my feelings lol. #lakerville
They always respected each other and kept tabs on what the other was doing. Larry just couldn't be a close friend with someone and then tear him up on the court. The only player Larry hated was Lambeer, ( think that's how it's spelled), because he was a dirty player. No one in the league liked that guy.
Oh.. bird started it... better player? Magic was my favorite back then.. but hard to say... I think Magic was surrounded with a little more talent so maybe didn't have to do as much as often...I think Bird was put in more "clutch" scenarios why there are so many highlights.. where magic was clutch.. but so was Kareem... . not to take away from Kevin and Parish (who I met AMAZING the CHIEF!).. anyways I have too hard of time putting one against the other cuz their grind, will, and respect was equal.. was the same.....
Larry is better. Only reason magic beat him was cause he had the better team even In college. Bird to IU to NCAA championship with bunch of nobody's
Love Larry and think he was the better player no shade at magic who I got as about 6th best ever and yes Larry was def the antisocial guy that started the on court beef
Who created the friction between them? Hell bro, that's pure Larry!
Larry and Russell my all time favorite players (I'm from New York) Bird's fault. No question.
Bird started it because he had no social skills in high school
Bird was the better player
Bird had to retire because he insisted on doing his own landscaping (even IN SEASON) when he was with the Celtics. He ruined his back cutting grass. 🙄
I’m white and Bird started it lol
LARRY BIRD IS JACK DANIELS AND MAGIC JOHNSON IS COCA-COLA ITS NOT WHO IS BETTER TS WHAT YOU GOT WHEN YOU HAVE EM BOTH TOGETHER.
Bird was better played. Magic had better team
Larry was the better player 🐐🐐
Started what stop hating on Larry Legend 🐐
Listen MJ and Kobe was the same as Larry Legend
Damn, dude you just like to hear yourself talk. Let the vid go and comment after.
I got Bird and Magic tied at #5 all time
why the hell does it have to be someones fault dude. they were on different teams. back then you hated the competion you were not all buddy buddy like todays creampuffs. you need to get off of someone being at fault. dude, the yankees and red sox hate each other, ok. is that SOMEONES FAULT??
Hahahah creampuffs that was a good one🤣
Magic Johnson was more accomplished... larry bird was a better player... and it's not close.... they played tactically in the same manner.. larry legend could hurt you in more ways...
And yes they were enemys!!! There no blame younge fellow. Its the mentality and how people were back then... unless you were brought up during that time. You really cant understand it.
I'd say Larry Legend started it and finished it lol
I love Magic, Top 10 All time. But I think Bird was the better all around player. No disrespect at all to Magic