The 2023 Honda Civic Type R Is An Even Better Track Ready Hot Hatch
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- When the #HondaCivicTypeR came to America in 2017, it quickly stole the throne to the kingdom of hot hatches and enthusiasts went nuts. For 2023, the new #CivicTypeR is now in its second-generation and built on the new 11th gen Civic platform. The #TypeR gets more power, technology, capabilities, and a more mature design and it should be another instant hit for enthusiasts looking for the ultimate practical track toy.
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The long wait is over guys! Here is our full take on what the new Civic Type R is like to drive on the road and on the track! We also give the microphone to our editor, Rob for the first time and he offers his take on what this new version is like compared to the 2017 model he owned for 5 years! We look forward to driving it back to back with the GR Corolla, Golf R, and Elantra N at a later time! ❤
How come you don’t do Lamborghinis?
Another Great Detailed Review, Thanks.
OK OK OK i was telling joe from raitis ride who was the big zonk driver infront of him and i said i can tell you is not redline you were second you just confirmed. You look like you were having fun driving it, Its just those seats they move so much when you were driving on the race track.
I want one! Of each! Lol
@@paolomarcelino2947 scan
Love having Rob gave his comparison of the new and old version. Also love you guys tried different ways to see how fast it can go to 60mph. Fabulous review, answered all the questions I have and more. 🎉
Should've named this car the Civic Type Dealer Markup
special now this time. this for young kid.
Stop complaining ffs… all dealers are doing this
@@Covernat-du2oc Dealer Simp
@@Covernat-du2oc ok honda dealer
@@Covernat-du2oc No other cars are being marked up $25k.
I love their infotainment and dash design. Great mix of tech and hard controls. Slick air vents
The Hyundai N cars may be slightly slower on track but have much nicer infotainment screens and performance pages.
Love seeing rob more involved in the review. Great video overall like always!!
I am in love with this new fl5 CTR. Beautiful styling and amazing performance if I wasn’t a broke college student I’d buy one
Loved this vid Sofyan! Man it must be so awesome to test drive (and review) cars for a living. Keep up the great work!
The shifts look extremely smooth like butter. Sofyan isn’t having a harsh transition to 3rd gear like with other manuals he drove.
As always you smash your reviews. You and Matt Moran show a childhood passion of going fast in these daily drivers👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you thank you thank you!!! Your the best car reviewer for always doing a 0-60. Alex on Auto is a complete opposite. "Stay tuned for full review for 0-60" then never reviews the car for 0-60. All the other reviewers never consistently give 0-60. That's why your the best. "Fast" "quick" "dad quick" "adequate" these are terms I don't understand.
I think the most underrated comparison people aren’t making is between the cost of this type R (with the markup) and the TLX Type s. It’s also a Honda, it’s faster, nicer inside and out, and is a true luxury car. Yes it may not be the same track weapon as this, but at 55 grand for the Type S, and 60-75 for this Type R… I’d go to the Acura dealer asap.
Bro the type r is 42
And the tlx type s starts from 52
Type r with mark up is 70-80 bro. Lol kids.
@@MrJeffSD only in this market not normally like this it’ll go away
The TLX Type S is a different kind of car for buyers more interested in the luxury and comfortness side of things. It has 355hp but it is over a thousands pounds heavier so it is outmatched by the Civic Type R in most scenarios performance-wise.
I've waited a century for this video 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Great video! I watched them all and I appreciate how thorough you guys are, I think Honda really failed journalists with this release and slightly killed the hype of it. Thankfully the Type R badge speaks for itself!
Great to see both doing the review together!
Love this review. Have you got to the bottom of the creaking seat ?
No matter how great this car is is - dealer mark-up will forever make me just disregard it.
The grins on your faces in the track scene! 😂
Just called the local dealer, and asking for 70K. I told them how come it’s so cheap, I will give u 100K then they hang up lol
Lol
@@PInk77W1😂🤣😂🤣👍🏽
Ahaha i laughed so harded from your reaction when you pressed the horn.. so puny haha
I like it alot! Esp the looks. GO ROB! 5.1seconds ... LOL GOOD Job BRO!!!LOL
Will certainly get one when you can get it around 40k, stealerships asking 75k atm....
Right 🤦🏻♂️ that price could already own a V8 with that price
M340i for that price.
"Rice from the factory" Lmao
This has become just an instant classic, and probably the last full ICE Civic Type R
The new Type R's styling is FAR better than the ridiculous look of the outgoing model, which I hated. This new one I'd actually buy. However, at this price it should have full LED lighting outside.
Exactly what I was thinking
Optional sunroof would be nice.
Can you specify if the soft touch injection molded plastic is the super thin type like on the regular civic or more padded like in something like a Corolla or GTI?
Good job SOFYAN 👏👏👏👏 have a beautiful day Everyone ✌️
Instead of sunroof how about carbon fiber roof option?
Ask your mom
I do remember when you and Rob went to New York to pick up his black Ivic Type R👍
Still prefer the Elantra N DCT in overall, interior,exterior, price,performance etc.
Hyundai engine are shit tho - you get what you pay for
@Redline_Reviews, this CTR or IS500
Love it !
Wish HONDA would bring back the Honda Prelude IV (BB) 2.2 i 16V Vtec 4WS ❤
There are 3 types of car "enthusiasts". One, is the people that love boy racer look. Second is the conservative look. Then the third ones, are the ones love the Honda badge. They would also say Audi looks boring, but the new Type-R looks amazing.
So bottom line is stay away from “car enthusiasts,” and just drive what makes you happy. A whole lot of them seem to be insecure and narcissistic anyways.
Beautiful car I love the simplicity of this type R
I love my 2018 Accord 2.0 Turbo. Honda has lost there mind on killing it
Your editor has a full smile on the entire video! lol
Just got the new Car and Driver. They ran a 0-60 in 4.9 and clocked a 13.5@106 with the new Type R.
$42k MSRP, with crazy markup prices....yaaaa I'll give it a few years for it to be in the 30's. Cars are just becoming more and more expensive, it's nuts.
Cars in general are actually slightly cheaper today vs 20 years ago, the number is bigger, but you get WAY more for your money, not taking into account COVID and stealership price gouging.
Why do you round down by nearly 1000? It’s $43k, and with destination and color up-charge, that’s $44,400
@@SIIKAP1 because in the video I heard him say 42k...
@@30_JD ok…
You won't find it for less than 65k
You're not the only person that's having that seat noise another video when a customer picked up his brand new car and had the same problem and the car only had less than a thousand miles
Dealer Markups is an enemy of many highly anticipated cars.
Almost $43k msrp I can imagine seeing it on dealerships at around $60k
It’s selling for $60k in SoCal yiu right in the money!
70k on average basically, and gets worse up to 94k at 8.99apr, over 72 months
People have been buying them for 60K+
@@g0d182 boy that's a mortgage payment but on a car
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I checked one yesterday and it has a mark up of 30k. Total price is 80k crazy right?
And if it don’t sell
You can buy it for $42k.
@@PInk77W1 demand is high for the type R probably even higher than the type S
@@ericssonerick6972 Yeap. Honda is in the business of making money. If people want to pay $70k.
Honda will be glad to take their money
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@@PInk77W1 it's a dealership markup. Honda is not getting that money.
Love how he started off the video as if the new Type R was going to address the "dealer markup" situation and then proceeded to only state the marketing fluff that Honda wanted him to convey. 🤔
Dont know why they remove the middle seat. The cup holders has the possibility to be in the backrest. I guess, it can be switched out if I ever own one.
Man, this car is awesome! Sounds great on my end. If I could have a second car - this would be up there near the top of my list.
Sounds weak AF, even with the fake sound enhancer.
I really like the new look. Alot better than last year model fosho!!!
Every major car review group has released a review on this car today, and I've yet to hear one person talk about if it feels FASTER than the FK8, the most important part lol. Please tell us!
Throttle house had it faster around the track and from a dig but much slower from a roll
This is actually the seventh version of the Type R rather than the second. Since two previous versions were made concurrently I suppose you could say there have been five previous generations.
People forget about the 8th gen type r
They almost always are speaking strictly to their respective markets. This is the second generation of Type R to come to the Americas.
This looks gorgeous
This is nice! 2030, 12th gen Type R gonna be K24 2.4 Turbo with 400 hp and 400 tq.
really wish i couldve understood him more, but I mean great video and great review.
Wow that last wrap up commenting does make the new civic look huge.
I often mistake the new Civics for Accords. They look bigger in person
This new Civic might outsell the new Accord that most people aren't happy about. But with the Stealerships mark ups this edition might be selling at $75K 😄🤷♂️
Honda dropped the 2.0 turbo engine on the Accord, but replaced it with a similar engine block on the Civic. We want an automatic transmission available on the Civic Type R for more purchase options
If you cant drive manual - you dont want a Type R
@@TheFK8Life 😂
Get a Supra if you want an auto. lol
Next up in the pipeline, Acura Integra Type S. A toned down Civic Type R with a bit more refinement probably. I'm hoping for a DCT but it'll probably be MT only.
I dont know if it’ll have a dct, the last honda/acura dct was the 2017-2021 ILX, unless they have some dcts left it would most likely be the 10speed auto
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Why can't they make the exhaust tips the same size???
Thanks for pointing out fake rear vents at 6:51
Beautiful car! Waiting to see what these actually sell for at dealers.
Expect to have at least additional 15k markups on this car
I was thinking at least 10 since even regular civics are 3-5 over in my area.
25-30K over
Dealers mark up. No one buy. They will sell msrp prices.
@@protectyourcar5889 People are lining up to buy at huge markups. 🤣 There's already a huge waiting list. Try again, boi.
The Type R is and ALWAYS will be engaging without a doubt, Long live the King of Hot Hatchbacks 😉⚡👑
been driving for 1 month now. its a good vehicle.
I have a feeling this is the last of the 2 L turbo. And that the next type R will be a 1.5 turbo with a hybrid setup for better fuel economy and reduced reliability.
Nah, they’d use a 2.0 hybrid or bigger
Honda confirmed already this is the last ICE only Type R. Just another reason why dealers are trying to gouge us.
Really like the type r. Sucks that dealers are marking these things up to 70k!!!
HUD would be nice as well
First! Your reviews are the best btw!!
The no sunroof is a rigidity issue, that’s the only reason thru don’t offer it
This is what a Type R is supposed to look like subtle and sporty like EP3, FD2,DC5 etc
I liked the old "Boy Racer" style way better.
Loud and Proud was the whole point of this car. Now it just looks like everything else but with a Autozone cheap wing added...🤣
I agree. Honda is making some dull looking cars.
Please update us on the seat noise. That sounds terrible. The creaking and groaning of a brand new vehicle and seat
The one we drove on the track did not have the creaking seat, it was limited to just that model we drove on the back roads. Early pre-production car problems 😅
@@theredline thanks for the quick response. Also thanks for the review!
@@theredline hello sofyan is there anyway you can reach out to Honda regarding the seat squeak. It may be more of an issue than first thought. There are others having the same issue and someone that goes by name of CypressR on UA-cam posted a video a few mins ago of his being really bad. His dealer is ordering new frame pieces but makes me wonder if this is going to be more of a regular occurrence.
Wish I knew how to drive standard
Well theres a vid with the fk8 and fl5 and the fk8 just whooped the fl5 both fully stock and by alot so guess reviewers are on the marketing side of things with the fl5 no dought it has improvements but they are very slightly deferent im a proud owner of a fk8 was going for the new one but tested the Elantra N and had to have it so now i have both
Almost 10k more than previous gen, they really killing the dollar bills
My 21 R was 40k - the 21 LE was 45k
We are going to get one next month. And it’s already sold for $15k mark up. While many of you complain, others are going to enjoy their Type-R soon
So almost $60,000? I love Honda but that's just silly to spend that much...for that money, get an Audi RS3 that does better in every performance and quality metric and and has AWD
@@danielkimball3037 I seeing them in Alhambra, Ca. $ 95,000 and sold
Bro nobody is swapping out a horn.. what is with this guy and horn sounds
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I like Robs insight
$950 a month for 300 horsepower. I’d rather buy a 93 civic and put a $5000 motor in it. It would probably beat this type r. 😂
Its growing on me. Acura is looking a lot better with their new lineup, but all of their vehicles fill cramped, 3ven the mdx seems like it would be bigger
so the 255hp Supra 2.0 will beat this to 60? wow
Thoughts on this as a daily driver? How is ride quality compared to a standard car? How hard is it to maintain interior?
A 70,000 dollar Civic with a stiff suspension and red racing seats isn't going to be a great daily driver, especially if you live in an area where premium fuel is expensive
@@ericdouglas7039 agreed who in the world would want this as a daily car. Although I absolutely love this car. !!This would be my weekend car. Obviously the maintenance will be more than that of a “basic” civic. Common sense.
Go watch Throttle House lol,,,The FK8 is faster on a straight line then the FL5 ,,still i like the new one,,but the FK8 is the faster car 👀
Yeah saw the video too , wonder if its longer gearing plus weight that negates the extra power
Should have put a similar K20 in the Si. I would buy this over the FK8, but inflation and markups turn me off, so i will be keeping my 2012 RR FG4. No point in selling if i have a 2.4L K24
If they did what’s the point of getting the type r?
@@f181234 The Si has always had the K20 though. For them to take it away and put it in the Type-R and drop an unreliable Lseries in it, then put a detuned K20 in the Accord is a slap in the face. The sedan Si was introduced in 2007 meanwhile the Si has always been a hatch and Coupe. Even the Accord had the K20 and K24 before and its not even a Sports car. The Integra is a Hatch and that right there says they want Integra sales to be better than the Civic Si because people asked for a Si Hatch which was not delivered. The 11th gen Si is only a sedan. People are only going to keep their older Si or buy a Type-R or Accord. I love Honda, but they died in 2016.
The 2.4 liter K motor is amazing. Last naturally aspirated SI/R engine.
@@DJPleasureSeekingMissle Exactly. I believe Honda was going to go all out. The Prototype FG4 had an HDMI exhaust before the 10th gen did with cool LED foglights and 18” wheels. People was like why is vtec on the intake side? It was so we could turbo and surpercharge them. People still complained about the bland styling and interior. I think it was just fine and here we are two generations later with a similar issue of the styling.
Tbh, the FK2 should have been an updated Civic but in sedan and coupe form. The headlights still gave 8th gen vibes. Thats what the modern civic should have been. Look at the Accord which reached its modern look of the 6th gen Accord during its 8th and 9th gen phase or the Odyssey and CRV for example.
Honda lost their touch trying to outshine the Germans. Who needs all this fancy tech that makes the car expensive and unreliable. Honda was simple and fun cars Acura should just be technologically reliant but, thats just my opinion. Like they say dont fix whats not broken.
the car is a Beast!!
What a waste of R&D time. This car will never be obtainable to be what it was meant to be (affordable performance). People with disposable income will buy them and keep them in garages while targeted demographic will have to settle for UA-cam videos. This is a USA problem to be clear, not world problem. Only USA has aggressive laws protecting dealers and mandating they exist without any control. It boggles my mind that the company who made the car is powerless in preventing their customers from being ripped off. People who made the car said this car costs $44K but we have to give it to a third party who had nothing to do with R&D so they can add $25K mark up to line their pockets before our customers can have it. If you think about it, it is quite insane. For example, Canada has ethics board that prohibits any markups.
Its cheaper for manufacturers to put digital screen than Guages
Love Robs s__t eating grin on the track!
$60k for a Civic here in SoCal I’ll just get a Lexus is500 for little more
I’m seeing $ 79,000 in Alhambra, Ca.
They need to make that wing less "obnoxious "
Grest review!
There are no red back seats because that’s tradition from the 90s.
I seeing them in Alhambra, Ca. Total $ 95,000 and sold.
Slim and refined look is much better than the riced out look. I’m older and wouldn’t buy the previous model because it looked like a cop magnet. “Look at me! “
Can’t go fast enough for speeding ticket. The electric Kia would get the ticket lol
Police know cars too, best believe they'll be looking at anyone driving this new type R
Already seeing them go for $80,000. Fucking insane.
where? that’s f*ing crazy
Unfortunately not dealers fault per se, but those who pay that obscene amounts.
Only if people want to pay that much.
I seeing them $ 90,000
Great job with this review, I do love this car, but I wish Honda would design a performance hybrid to really maximize the performance. Honda developed some amazing performance hybrid technology 10+ years ago, but they are, for some reason, holding back that technology, why is a mystery. My 6-year-old daily driver is a performance hybrid and way out-performs this new Type R in many areas including MPG. They have the tech to design a 375hp Type-R Hybrid, 0-60 in 4 seconds, and gets 35 to 40 MPG. this car is slow off the line. An electric boost motor would correct that.
They want to keep that technology exclusive to the Acura NSX I guess but who knows that would be awesome wouldn’t it
What’s that outro song? Lol
This gen is slower by far on a role than last type R check out trottle house comparison.
Jack and Mark of Savagegeese say the suspension is too firm on the track. Do you agree or disagree?
Need 4 wheel drive Honda! Like yesterday.
Great Review , great car but the insane markups just puts it out of reach - 70-80k civic is just too much
Some of your complaints for extra luxury items should be addressed when the Integra Type S is released.
Boy, that intercooler is exposed.
ugh yes that exhaust note is such a letdown. The Ns sound so damn good, but i have questions. if the civic type r is $42k and the tlx type S is $53k where would that put the integra type s ? pricing seems weird to me .
Good point
Looks great and will finally age well, just like the iconic 5th gen..…but at this size, Honda should’ve also offered an AWD option. Hopefully Acura will be able to get their heads out of their arshes and correct this with an SH-AWD Integra……NOT!🙄🤪 A plain steering wheel (a la Porsche) and an infotainment delete (with rear camera integrated with rear view mirror) would be nice options, as well.
The rear quarter panel area still looks weird.
Looks like the trunk was shaved off to make it look like a hatch. Who does that?? Oh honda does.
The graphics look all bunched up. The rear taillights are way too big.
The chrome "beak" on the d pillar ruins the whole look