HUGE IMPROVEMENTS? 2023 Honda Civic Type R Road Review
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- 2023 Civic Type R Test Drive by The Straight Pipes. The 23 Type R is putting down 315 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque from a 2.0L turbo 4 cylinder. At $50,050 CAD, would you take it over the GR Corolla or Elantra N?
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I love you guys🥹
Ok.
Shout-out to Jakub for wearing just a shirt in this 2 degree Canadian weather! 😂
Whats ride quality like in comfort suspension mode??
Any referral code?
I’m gonna hold out for the Odyssey Type R
Good one haha
It is the one of the quickest minivans you can buy on the market still.
Turbo 3.5 liter V-6, SHAWD. Make it a fierce family truckster.
Hahaha! I would seriously consider getting one of those!
I have a FK8 and I like cars that handle and we’ve had two Honda odysseys, a 2000 and a 2012. The 2000 model actually is a really good foundation for a “performance minivan”. It was really nimble and when you removed the middle row seats, it did make a little bit of a difference. I actually at one point put on 2003 Mustang Mach 1 rims and it handled fairly well for a minivan.
Would get one in a heartbeat.
It's the Honda pedal dance. To fully disable TCS:
1. Turn car on
2. Parking brake off
3. Press and hold brake pedal
4. Turn traction control on and off
5. Release brake pedal
6. Parking brake on
7. Turn traction control on and off
8. Press and hold brake pedal
9. Turn traction control on and off
10. Traction control light should be solid and another light blinking
Like a PS2 cheat code
Or simply pull the fuse out
I use to do this one in my Lexus IsF which is 14 years old. Cant understand why type r wanted to do that? More engagement??
@@paolowalters4462 because people can’t drive. Honda is trying to save them 🤣
99% of people should not use that function because they are not good enough drivers (even if they think they are).
Cleanest Type R in a long time.
clean af!
Don’t forget Most overpriced R of all time
Easily
@@Jdm_fl5 just usa things lol
LOVE IT!!! Hated the previous generation, over designed and pretentious.
It's a shame it will be so limited and dealer markups are already insane. Thanks Honda for building a sports car for the masses that nobody can find or afford.
That sounds like a USA problem. In Europe the markups aren’t stupid
@@morebrainmoregains3234 and no heated seats... Sorry Canada.
@@harrisr1018 in the US they are marked up at least 20K. Sorry but I'm buying a Porsche for that kind of money.
In US they are marked up to 65k to 100k.
its not meant for the masses but the real true car enthusiasts, with limited production it will set the nay sayer appart from the yes! sayer
the way this car sits on the road is crazy! Looks absolutely glued!!
Talked to two dealers here in the US So far near me. One wants 10k markup and the other 25k markup. Insane
Its really great up to 48k in my humble opinion. People who pay have a deeper connection I can't justify. I will trade in my Gx460 if i can get an integra type S close to 50k.
Similar experience to me - I have found $10k markup in my area.
What city or state is this?
@@brandoM78 210 Countdown City wants to know. Saytown. San Anto. Come and take it. Ore
Damn, Honda went from the ugliest Type R to the best looking in 1 redesign.
Normally I dont watch videos on vehicles I have no interest in...and I have no interest in the Type R.
That being said...I never miss a straight pipes video. No matter the vehicle.
Great job as always guys.
Thank you 🙏
Around 2:30 loved how they put a snippet of them about to turn off traction for real lololol
Something is glitchy with that. On my tv it played the audio of how to do it but the video and captions kept going about infotainment. But on my phone it played a split second of the cheat code then went on
Came to the comments for this lol. I WANT THE DEETS!
@@TruckerGuy135 exact the same thing with my TV and my phone
Car's on
Foot on the brake
TC off
TC on
Pull up H brake
Release foot brake
TC off
TC on
Foot on brake
TC off
TC on
Then it says "VSA" and traction is fully defeated.
On UA-cam on the Firestick, it doesn't skip like it does here on my phone. It also delays the audio to the video about 3 seconds after showing how to bypass the TC and ruined it for me which is why I got on my phone to see if it was just me.
Bro what the fuck lmao 🤣. I thought it was just me!! UA-cam on Firestick is saying it but on the phone it cuts off completely. And on the subscriptions tab, it doesn’t even say the Straight Pipes uploaded today. At least for me 🤷♂️
I got an allocation for it, but the dealer was asking 60k USD for it. I do not think a CTR is worth that much. 44k USD itself I feel is a high upper bound. This combined with the high interest rates. Makes more sense to buy a slightly used m2 comp all day long
you sure a civic isnt worth as much as a c8 vet? you sure? but its a type r!!!!! its basically an f1 car for the street!!!!!
@@wynn324 a new c8 is over 70k. Where the fuck you finding them so cheap
Lol
Yeah 44-45K might be my tolerable limit. I think the only reason you would pay 60k for the CTR is if one is a big Honda loyalist.
If you think buying a used bmw makes more sense than buying a new Honda lmfao Best of luck
After watching your video on this I traded my 16 Shelby GT350 for a 25 Civic type R and I love it!
Were you able to get one at msrp?
Yuri - the more childish a car is designed, the more he'll like it
Jakub - the cleaner/more pro a car is designed, the more he'll approve of the looks.
I'm definitely with Jakub hehe
It's actually a great representation of people considering one of these. One of my classmates really likes the old one while I really like the new one (mainly the Teggy, but that's not out till 24).
For sure grown on me. Maybe it was the vast departure that made me think it wasn’t great at the beginning. But I’m also into the over styled 10th gen. This 11th gen one will be a blank canvas for the aftermarket.
So you originally didn't like it, but also originally loved it?
@@TheDwightMamba I didn’t say I originally loved it. I said I’m into the previous generation type r. And this 11th generation has grown on me. At first it wasn’t great in my opinion.
@@TurboTapIns , the generation before the 11th generation is what?
Never mind, Captain Contradiction. I won't be here for your response.
@@TheDwightMamba you don’t want to be here for my reply because I make complete sense. This new type r is the 11th gen civic. The previous generation is the 10th gen civic. Does that make sense? The 10th gen was called over-styled by many critics. But I love the 10th generation for that over styled look. This 11th generation as in current generation is subdued and a blank canvas for the aftermarket community.
@@TurboTapIns if you're "into" feet, you love feet. Same for a car, pal.
I am not sure why, and I don’t think you mentioned it in your review, but the fact that his wears 265 tires is the most impressive thing for me :)
That is definitely noteworthy. My IS500 runs 265 in the rear for perspective…. And this has 265 on all four corners…. I like that!
@@wonkydada you can fit 295s in the front on stock fender btw
Everything that Yuri likes about the looks of the FK Type R is is everything that I hated about it. 🤣
previous gen type R looked like a child designed it this new gen is perfection.
This is the first Type R that I thought looked good. Usually they look like life-size Hotwheels
yuri likes hot wheels and has bad taste.
I wonder if you're aware of the Japanese four door Type R that was made at the same time as the British FN2? I've never read a bad word about its appearance.
Best looking Tyre R hand downs . Timeless design
yea white with red seats and badging ..timeless
Fd2 type r for me. This look ok but the roof line for me it to high.
THANK YOU for swapping back to 24fps. I am shocked that’s the only difference, I could have sworn the color profile or exposure or something was different on the 60fps videos. In any case, much prefer the “old” look.
One of the first awesome car videos I remember watching was TheStraightPipes review of the 2017 Type R. I'm actually feeling a bit emotional.
Thank you so much. Our first press event, so special to us
Straight Pipes is all that keeps me going through English Class
I want to save up and obtain one. It looks fantastic. The main gripe I had with the FK8 was the seats being a larger person. I hope that these seats are a massive improvement!
yeah you save up those penny's and you to can have a beast like her one day🤣🤣
The pumped in audio strips the experience from what the car actually sounds like. That shouldn’t be a default with car releases.
You can turn it off and delete the front resonator and sounds a lot like the Acura type S. Annoying that it’s not like that from factory but easy enough to change
Personal take: 10th Gen > 11th Gen but 10th Gen Type R < 11th Gen Type R.
I don't know why but the 10th gen is just more interesting to me. If it were up to me, I would have 10th gen looks and engine with 11th gen interior. They are all still fantastic cars though, been driving my 10th gen for a while and it has been a blast!
Still remember a few years ago you guys loved the last gen Type R, Yuri hit a pothole on DVP and said perhaps the only f bomb ever? 💣😂, how time flies.
*_They came a long way from the 1997 Type R to the 2023 Type R. 🔥_*
ROLLING OUT THE RED CARPETS! You guys blew right by that beautiful double entendre.
Yuri is the only person to like the looks of the Old Type R. lol
Yea he's the opposite of Doug DeMuro. Trust me.. he hates it a lot 😂😂
Alot of ppl really liked the looks of old type r but alot of ppl hated as well
I hate this one, loved the old one
@@daebak7370 yea most people got mixed feelings, but mostly good positives for the Type R becuz its a Honda
Nah he is not the only person… fk8 looks better. Period.
Picked mine up Friday. It’s so good. Highly recommended.
All I want is this, e92 m3, and s1000rr. This def will be my first financed car can’t wait
e92 kinda overhyped ngl. i had one its very soft and kinda numb without mods
It's the best feeling daily, once you swap it the type r damping module for type s. It's so good. It's a civic, that's also fast and super engaging. You only make concessions with luxury features but that's what the Integra is for.
It looks way better than the old gen
I'm glad Honda has kept the petrol head spirit alive with the new Type R. Rest of the new line up is quite disappointing. Especially the new Accord. Used to be kind of a stock sleeper with that 2.0l Turbo. Not any more though...
Honda did ruin the new Accord. So more desire for this Type R.
Yeah, well I don’t think the accord is targeted towards enthusiasts in the first place…
@@gavcom4060some people will never understand that, apparently every car has to be set at the liking of car enthusiasts for it to succeed
That price gap between this and the Hyundai N is pretty big
Its exterior and interior are such a vast improvement over the previous gen. Love it! The spoiler also suits it and its brackets are fine and very similar to what Porsche uses on the 911, so really no surprise.
Except half the speed of a porche stock
@@mikehogan5087 and half the price... your point?
$30,000 over MSRP in the Vancouver area. While across town at the Nissan dealership sits the new Z for MSRP.
Nice, if it's anything like the normal Civic it's a brilliant drive. I've had my 2.0 Civic Hybrid since the 12th of October and have done 6100km in it. Brilliant car.
The 60 frames a second was legendary. Your guys quality was unmatched!
Another awesome one guys! I did like the 60fps, but i love the clarity of the 30fps! Keep it up!!
The Elantra N axle tramp doesn’t mean the LSD isn’t working, it’s just got soft engine bushes. You can fix it with a lower torque mount bush for £30
$65K after markup. Same as a decent 996 turbo. With the Porsche done depreciating.
I bought an Elantra N (performance blue, 6MT). In no universe is the Type R worth $13,000 Canadian dollars (plus tax!) more IMO. If the difference was more like 7 grand then sure. Car critics love to call it ugly, but literally everyone who sees it in person loves it. I've had half my building randomly approach me to compliment me on the car (especially the colour) at this point lol. Never mind the fact that dealers already sold out of their allocations for the next 3 years on the Type R before the review embargo even lifted...same deal with the Corolla, so does it really matter if either car is worth the price over an EN when the EN is the only one of the 3 you can realistically purchase?
same boat as you. only compliments on the car and the color. it sounds better than the Type R also as a bonus.
Can’t wait to get one used in 3 years when the market comes down 😂
I like the type R. The interior is better looking then the GR but I like the exterior or the GR more.
Savage Geese said: 500 coming to the USA initially. Apparently the Japanese Factory for Type R has 10,000 domestic JDM Type R orders to get through.
They discontinue the 2.0 Honda accord, so they can only have the engine in the type are so they make more money from the type R. People were getting the 2.0t sport accord and it was hurting the type R sales
I've had a deposit on this Type R since 2021 in Canada and still haven't been able to get one. The Honda dealer recently told me that there is extremely limited quantities in Canada. Only 95 units will be allocated here in 2023. Pretty sad as they could easily sell much much more than that immediately. Not sure if it's because of shortages on parts or the fact that they want it to be a very rare and exclusive car. Also, why is no one talking about the new parking sensors on Canadian models? And has blind spot indicators along with all of the other safety tech. I realize it's a Type R but these make it an even better daily driver.
ive just put in a deposit for a 2024 model, have you gotten the car yet?
@@TakiLocos Nope. The dealer got 1 and gave everyone else their money back. They said they have no idea when more could come so no one else can get a car. Several months later I saw another one pulling off of the delivery truck. I’m sure that one was already sold before it arrived.
I’ve only seen two on the roads in Vancouver Canada. They are extremely rare. Now I’m also beginning to look at the Integra Type S. it seems like basically the same package. But also rare at the moment.
1. Turn off e-brake and turn ignition on
2. Press and hold brake pedal, press VSA off, then VSA on
3. Put e-brake on, release brake pedal, then VSA off, VSA on
4. Press and hold brake pedal, VSA off, VSA on
Do you guys do any type of racing? What types? I am curious because I like your content and that probably influences your content. I have been sim racing and I am now hoping to get in to racing in some way.
I love the TypeR but it would be hard to pass on a GR Corolla. They really great cars, both of them. And I WOULDNT be driving any of these cars in the winter.
Why? Both cars do fine in winter with the right tires
@@mikekeller5202 Id have a winter beater and keep the GR/TypeR for summer.
Salt
that driving style is an actual thing, it's not just 'over driving'. It's most common/easiest on go karts as it does give you more grip around corners, you are wearing out the tyres more tho. What happens is you are digging the edges of the tyre into the road more when you turn, due to the linkages the wheel gains additional angle of camber. Doesn't work as well in our drive by wire steering modern cars, but in older cars (and F1) it really works.
I like this more subdue body style over the previous. I agree with a spoiler delete as well.
Love the look of the new Type R
yeah, dude, covid, we know, no taste, get better
you should take a look again
When I first saw the rear end I thought it was a Kia Stinger
Elantra N all day long no markups at all here in upstate ny if u live here!! For 35k with a dtc trans it’s a no brainer instead of these for 60k 10 k mark up just effin ridiculous
This car is breath taking
Getting mine in October in Red, so excited!
This car finally looks good again
👏👏👏GREAT JOB GUYS ..... YURI ITS BEEN WEEKS 😱😱 GETTING THE SHAKES FROM Lack OF OLD SCHOOL GAMES ON YOUR CHANNEL😱.....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️
Awesome review guys. Daily driver of the year just about sums it up. FL5 over GR Corolla and Elantra N...all day.
For over $10k less, the Elantra N is a hell of a value. The R is better. But I can think of a lot of things to do with $10K
@@tobysurmann1936 Hyundai isn't in the same category, no reliability. For pricing gr is better than the fl5 but looks, fl5 looks beautiful
With more then 20k canadian difference in final price taxes and all. The Elantra N is realy hard to not recommande, i have one and its a realy great car. If the money is not a probleme yeah the Type R would have ne the one but whit taxes an all the Type R is probably more in the 70k canadian the Elantra N is 50k so.. the GR is fu... nice to. Juste a wonderfull time to be a car enthousiast!
@@AsuraTraitorr - as someone who has worked in the auto industry with manufacturers for over 25 years, and as a life long enthusiast, I can tell you your assessment of what Hyundai builds couldn’t be more wrong.
The product Hyundai builds today is at least as good as what Japan builds.
But sometimes it takes a bit for opinions to catch up to reality.
@@tobysurmann1936 I'm not saying they're not reliable to today's standards. They're good vehicles, but to put them in the same category as Honda and Toyota who has the reputation already, is wrong to Honda and Toyota.
Another great vid as usual boys! Red carpets look great for NOW but those bad boys are gonna show the dirt!
Not if you take car of them .
This car looks fantastic. The old one looked like a kids car. Reminds me of the old M3 with the flared fenders..Good job Honda!
15:37 - No gloss black... No, gloss, black. Thank you Honda.
The aftermarket body kit for this would be sick
The FL5 Type R has the lofty looks. Such a beauty!
The clean design should allow for some nice body kits
Checked all the dealerships around me, all of them are asking for $10k markup plus those stupid dealership accessories package smh. And the GR Corolla also has a $10k markup, but even you are willing to pay, there’s still a wait list for the GR.
I'm so over dealerships, and especially Honda at this point. Wife and I owned an S2000 for 12 years and now have a Focus RS. We contact the Honda dealer wanting to test drive the Civic Si and they book us for a time slot a week later. We show up and they immediately pull some crap about having to sign on the dotted line before we get a test drive. We objected asking why and were told "because this is such a special car". We laughed explaining to them what was parked outside and how we've been test driving cars double the money (or more) with no issues from higher end brands. They were insistent and we walked away without even sitting in the stupid thing.
All of this is after my dad had gone to the dealer when the Civic Type R was new to the US trying to test drive one and they told him the same malarky even though he had a more expensive vehicle than the CTR. So obviously a recurring theme.
I'm not even close to young and I don't have an issue with affording these machines. I could understand Ferrari or McLaren asking some very pointed questions about my finances before I got a test drive, but a $30k or $45k Honda? Give me a break. Bubba up yonder has a meth, tobacco, and energy drink habit and rolls home in a $75k truck but Lord help us if we let a responsible middle aged couple drive a frickin Civic.
I've got my 2025 Championship White allocation in Ottawa! I've a modded 02 ep3 to CTR+ level (k24a2 and JRSC) and looking forward to having both in my garage to enjoy and admire.
Why 2025?
I’m getting a 2030 soon. 😂
Both of their 2023 and 2024 allocations were already spoken for. In Canada, dealers are getting a very limited quantity, some saying only 1 unit per model year.
Are dealeRs giving a build # or other info to confirm? I paid a deposit, but my dealerR didn't know what model year they would Receive their allocation. Could be 2024 or 2025. I assume too small of sales volume to get on initial 2023 release.
Mine is a sales contract and the sales manager confirmed my allocation with Honda Canada. Since my dealership knew for a fact that they were getting an allocation for each model year from Honda Canada, they were able to request/confirm mine as being Champion White. Obviously, I won't know the build number or serial info for sometime yet.
I sat on a Sonic Gray pearl one yesterday. I fell in love with it.
I would love to buy this car, but dealers here in the US are tagging on an additional 25K-30K on top of MSRP. At 43K it is totally worth it and prices nicely against the Golf R, Audi S3 and (was WRX STI) but at 70K it's just not worth it when you can get an RS3 or BMW M340, or CLA45 for that kind of money.
Us car market is dumb
I don't like the back, but the front is real nice. Tough call between this and GR Corolla, I don't care about the current Golf or the N. GR Yaris still sits at the top for desirable current hot hatchos.
Happy to see ur review❤️
Around August of 2022, I talked to a local dealer who does not sell outside the local market and who sticks to MSRP about putting a deposit down on one of these. They said "we're only getting one in 2023, and it's already sold... to our owner."
My GR Corolla is scheduled to be delivered in March/April.
BTW, I had a chance to pick up a 2019 Type R with only 4k on it (from the Toyota dealer, funny enough). They were asking $41k. I drove it and it rocked. But, sorry Yuri, IT WAS JUST TOO DANG UGLY.
Elantra N DCT for sure. At the Type R price point you mine as well spend a little extra for a scatpack🔥🔥🔥
More cleaner than the older model. This one looks cleaner and doesn't scream racer boy
Looks way better.
But slower than last years model in a straight line 🫤. But still a track beast like the Elantra N
Finally a Type R that doesn’t look like a ricer kid designed it. Brings back memories of the legendary FD2 R😍
I used to love the civic sporty look , this looks like cross over between a minivan and a crossover suv
I really dig the newer toned down look
Last body style civic / accord was king.
Big improvement in the looks department over previous model, but for that money I’d rather sit in the GR Corolla Circuit Edition which happens that my name is on the waiting list for 😄
You can really tell the dampers are STIFF like coilovers. "so to turnoff tc..." that was classic Yuri
It's hard to care about the Type R, as cool as it is... No way I'm going to be able to get one unless I pay tens of thousands over sticker.
THAT FK8 ON BOOST BLUE LOOKS SO MUCH COOLER AND AGGRESSIVE, YES I AGREE.
This is a sweet car but I think the dealers might ruin it. I can’t imagine sales will be great when most dealers are asking $60k for them.
yes it is😃
Got one on order. But it's gonna be a long wait, as you guys have accurately stated... It's very limited
I just realized you guys uploaded the new Type R video review at the same time as Doug uploading his one about the new Type R.
there's usually an embargo from the manufacturer... they tell them when they can upload hence why a half dozen vids popped up at 9am est..
This is so much better looking than prior version.
How come a 3 cylinder GR Corolla somehow sounds better than this 4 cylinder Type R? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Firing order and pattern
3-cylinders have a different sound profile than a 4-cylinder. In general 3 sounds better than 4
1:49 The expression on Jakub's face was terrifying
why is no one else talking about it LOL. at first i thought he was doing it on purpose
W for the 30 fps format. great video
Edit: apparently it's 24 fps, because 30 is trash 😂
Another informative video enjoying all the way from South Africa
Is it just me or is the audio off from 2:37... Correction, only when I'm viewing it on my TV not my mobile device 🤷🏻♂️
Bought my ‘17 Focus RS (used, with 25k) during the height of Covid lockdowns for a steal. Seeing what dealerships are doing now makes me certain I’ll never sell it.
They’ve made it slower and more “mature”. Not sure about that 🧐
Hi guys. I've heard a lot of people mention that the cabin noise in the FL5 is quite noticeable. What are your thoughts on this issue? Do you have any insights or comments on it? Thanks in advance. You are the best!
Wow a type R an adult wouldn't be embarrassed in. Honda you have my attention.
Why would an adult be embarrassed in any car? I never understood this notion. As an owner of multiple vehicles I always have found this odd. People definitely treat me differently in my 25 year old winter beater Toyota vs my brand new vehicle.
I actually prefer driving old beat up cars and find it hilarious when people make comments like "buy a new car white trash" while I have multiple vehicles and a large bank account, haha. Women in their huge junk SUV's mostly.
I just love this car
Can’t wait to have one
Looks good and clean. Saying they toned down the design of this generation would be an understatement.