When Amanda said “America acts like it’s the be all end all” I SCREAMED YES!!!!!!! Finally someone said it!! There is a whole word of people and we are ALL equal !!!!!!!
Loni is so right about not stopping to the racist's level and using curse words and yelling and screaming. It is very hard not to do this but it is best that you don't. Just be calm and speak intelligently and get your point across and do it with class!
NY public transit rule #1 always have your headphones! Edit:...I put mine in sometimes just so people don't talk to me. Most of the time I don't even have music playing, lol
The fact that the woman had the nerve “ I love ... countries BUT if you’re in America you should speak English “ ma’am... there is no mandatory rule that says you HAVE to speak English to live in this country... you may need to do it on an accord to be able to English speakers or those who are not bilingual... but even then it’s not mandatory !
I also love how the man told her that in the United States English isn't the official language, but actually it is the most commonly used language and many other beautiful languages are spoken in this melting pot we call a home!!
Once people start saying "but" you know they dont actually feel that way. If you really loved people from other countries you'd be a bit more understanding and not so indignant
FYI, Jeannie, the primary language spoken in Ethiopia is AMHARIC. But there are several different languages spoken in the country as Ethiopia is filled with many different ethnicities!
@@xuxushushu Heyyy from the US! Most of us over here are familiar with Habesha people and culture but we are definitely aware that there are lots of different ethnic groups and languages spoken in your country!
Which makes the situation even more ridiculous. Had that man bothered to learn English in the first place, it wouldn't have been an inconvenience for passengers.
@@osimeon00 There is no official language in America. What is wrong with people speaking their native tongue? America is a land of immigrants and nobody spoke the various languages of the Native Americans (or tried to assimilate into Native American cultures) when they first came here so it seems hypocritical to criticize the immigrants of today.
Just an FYI for some people (no shade at all) Ethiopian is a nationality. There are over 80 dialects in the country of Ethiopia. The national language is Amharic.
Thank you !! I was thinking the same love love love her though. But you couldn’t google translate how to speak “Ethiopian” no shade as a fellow Ethiopian.
LOVING the longer clips. We can get better context about the topic hearing more of the conversation. Good advice, Loni! DE-ESCALATION is KEY (IF you feel comfortable doing so and won't place yourself into a dangerous situation by speaking up)! The last thing we need is more violence to erupt in this country!
Alma Chronicles true. I’m bad at de-escalation. It’s always 0 to 100 for me. But I’ve been learning because last thing I want is to get in trouble cause of a piece of trash racist
@@leviloveserwin1809 I still have to fight my instincts myself when I feel that someone is attacking me as well! It's definitely a learned skill and it doesn't come overnight. Our natural human instinct is to match the level of energy coming at us (fight or flight syndrome). But Loni is 100% correct in that aspect. De-escalation is always the solution to solving tense situations such as this one.
@@leviloveserwin1809 Yes, this too has been an issue for me. I work in retail, and I can get very caught up in my sense of outrage and "right and wrong", and it has gotten me in trouble on several occasions. I have been on a journey to learn to balance that outrage with practical concerns and realizing that screaming or harsh words just cause people to shut down instead of listen. Being at work, I have sometimes felt such shame at what I am forced to listen to, and how powerless I can be to shut racism down. I remember around Halloween sitting there listening to some woman go on and on about how kids who didn't speak English who came trick or treating (which was really just code for Hispanics in my area) were turned away without candy and stuck where I'm desperately trying to figure out what I can say without getting fired.
@@amethystwolf24572 When it comes to your livelihood, sometimes it is best to not say anything and let it go. I've been in that position before where coworkers were saying ignorant things. I would just take a LONG walk on my lunch break to calm down and not say something that would most likely end up getting me fired. I know it is hard but we have to choose our battles wisely. Outside of the work environment, we can definitely voice things in such a way that checks the ignorant person but without screaming and yelling to get our point across. I believe that people call it "nice nasty," lol. LOL, Loni and Amanda are great at holding their tongues but their expressions say it all.
Degrees has nothing to do with anything else outside of that degree. I have a master's degree myself and there are things I don't know that people with no degree know and can teach me.
Being an African student in China we face racism everyday from other foreigners from the so called great countries.I realized the best thing sometimes is not to shout at them but to confront them in a civilized manner.Then you can prove them I m not barbaric like you.The Best thing is also to know yourself and love who you are and whatever anyone is going to say it won’t hurt you.We are all one world.
Actually if you say speaking "American" it does automatically imply English. 😳 I'm sure she meant no harm. I'm sure that more than likely because she's oblivious to the Ethiopian language(s), (since she had to google it) she didnt know that there are 80 different languages not called "Ethiopian". This is where we apply "grace" to peoples unintentional lack of knowledge.
Yea Loni, sounds good😂. But nah, I've been in too many situations with racist ass people and I cussed them out each and every time. No regrets🤷🏾♀️. Being calm is easier said than done.
Definitely, when u are in the situation ur not thinking about being nice. I’ve had two situations and one I was kind but the second time I wasn’t nice at all. It depends on the situation
White people aren’t the only ones who harass immigrants. Glad they are speaking about this on this platform because the viewership is diverse and needs to hear this.
I work in the "tourist industry" so i see people from around the world. I can't tell you how many times I have to use the Google translate app, and I have no problem with it. Plus most of my co-workers speak different languages, and they speak to each other all the time, I don't mind. But.... I disagree with Jeannie with the whole "if they're talking about you.. It's none of your business". NOPE...run those concerns in English Sis!!!! People are bold when they think you don't understand, especially in the work place. Half the time they get snitched on by the buddy they were talking trash to, and then they want to express how sorry they are. 😂😂😂 It's not good to be a punk in any language.
My co-worker is a white, redheaded guy who looks like Conor McGregor. He had the same experience with some dark-skinned, dark haired Mexicans at a fast food joint. They were joking hardcore in Spanish & laughing at some white kid waiting for his order. They didn't hold back. So, my friend responded in Spanish. They froze and were shocked. How did my white, redheaded co-worker understand what was going on? Well, my co-worker is 100% Mexican, too 😉... He joked with them and they've been hooking him up with free lunch ever since.
Jeannie, just here to educate! "Ethiopian" isn't a language. Based on the statistics of the most common language in Ethiopia, he probably spoke in Amharic which is pronounced (um-har-ric).
courtney ford I’m Ghanaian but I know that Ethiopians speak Amharic as their main language but many more. I just think that it was easier for Jeannie to say “Ethiopian” as she’s not familiar what languages they speak. I know it’s ignorance though. Sometimes I even get asked “you speak Ghanaian”? Lol! 😂
He didn't de escalate, name calling, insulting is not de escalating. I know it's easier to just do that but he shoukd have kept calm while talking, he was just at her level.
Sunny Bae , you are wrong. Some people reflect by making faces! Italian use the face and body! it has nothing to do with disregarding the other or being arrogant!
I had to have this conversation out with my grandfather in front of family. (With respect cause if I came at him any other way he wouldn't hear me) At a family dinner he made a racist remark as a "joke" and I stepped up and said NO. It not okay my little son is here and he has friends of all kinds of culture because it's important to love others different from you to learn and grow. I said you can't talk that way because the next generation is listening and we can stop it now. With his mouth wide open and the family silent cause no one ever called him out he apologized and he got it. Step up and call it out.
I did the exact same thing a few months ago. My mom's boyfriend made a racist joke and I told him it's not OK. But it did not work out, he believes it's only racist when it's said in a hurtful matter so if he says it jokingly or not to hurt people, it's OK. He's white and almost in his 60s but he's dating my mom, a black woman, and she doesn't correct him either, she doesn't really care which annoys me because that way they don't learn. I'm also from Europe so it's extra hard to explain these things to people who are used to saying whatever they want. 🙄🙄🙄
Ashley NW Babs that’s so admirable!Especially cause it’s not easy to call your own people out. I’m glad there are humans like you out there. We need more people like you💛
@Kirsty Birsty I absolutely agree. There is a total injustice against white people, they can be made fun of their race, and color and its not offensive while the other way around is. It's very stupid and talk about double standard. So many people are racist torwards white people but no one seems to care. Its very unfair, really.
@@CatarinaMangel If you take a look around when white people are racially mistreated or just mistreated by another race, they come together against it and usually that person is dealt with most if not all of the time. This double standard was really created by white racism if you take a look at history. White people are the main ones in control of everything to be having great injustice against them as others
Being biracial with some really random mixtures, most people don’t know what my ethnicity is. So they don’t hesitate to say things around me that they wouldn’t say in front of whatever race they assume I’m NOT. I’ve been disappointed over and over hearing the things people truly say behind closed doors just because they assume it doesn’t relate to me - when it does.
We should definitely stand up for one another. I’m tired of certain races being against one another and trying to make the white man happy. We are all different races and when it comes down to it, the white man would stomp on either one of us. We need to all stand together and defend each other.
Nice conversation. Good ideas that are some times hard to do. I need to be patient first with myself and then other people. We are all tying to deal here.
Freedom speech is not right for people who can abuse people and use hateful words freedom speech goes out the window when someone acts on hateful matter.Crime has committed.
Google Translate is so much the answer. In retail, I've had customers who had issues communicating in English. I found it very humbling to see how happy most of them were when I whipped out Translate on my phone, because it became clear that they were accustomed to people meeting them with frustration and even anger instead of an attempt to understand.
I'd be lying if I said I have never said "They live in America they should speak English" (not to anyone but to myself) but this conversation made me more aware of how offensive this really is
@@vapor5145 well that is exactly why a lot of Americans get so offended. Everyone else is learning 2-4 languages and have learned to communicate and understand the people around them. But when Americans hear a language they don't understand, it's frustrating to them. They are just mad because nobody gave them the opportunity to learn other languages when they were younger.
They only need to use or understand English in business affairs in America since English is the language that most people speak. But in their personal affairs they can speak whatever.
@@stoneghana4171 The only times I have thought this was when I went to a business and asked for help finding something and the person could not help because they didn't speak English and I'm not talking about some mom and pop shop I'm talking about like Walmart. So don't hurt yourself jumping to conclusions.
Lol Jeannie, the language is called Amharic not Ethiopian. It's nice of her to figure out the best way of communicating with him. I have had a white woman on the bus ordering me to hang up the phone because I was talking in a different language. I told her to change a sit if it bothered her. I also said that it's a public transportation and I can do anything I want. After that, she shut her mouth. Lol
I wish the US had "no talking on cell phone" rules on their buses. Americans tend to have such intimate and inappropriate conversations in the most public places...
@@lunahestiasolaria Thanks. 😊 I was just surprised she had the nerve to come and sit beside me and interrupt my phone conversation just to ask me to hang up. I could be on a very critical call for all she knows. Lol
@The Awasa: That sounds silly. I've been places where they're not allowed, and it's so much nicer and more civilized. Buses and pretty much all public transportation has a reputation in the US as something for college students, poor people, and crazy people (maybe Canada, too?). It's a shame. Having standards does wonders for making people behave better. (Sorry, my comment was off-topic. I realize I was typing my thoughts which weren't really about the topic at hand. Of course I don't believe in patrolling the language of random people's conversations.)
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence. It means you can speak your mind openly BUT the person you're speaking to ALSO has that right. You say something nasty and harmful to another person, they have the right to defend themselves.
Yeah, the panel was wrong about freedom of speech not including "hate speech". Freedom of speech includes all kinds of speech (with the exception of actual threats, I believe). Where that lady was wrong though, is that freedom of speech isn't limited to one language nor does it mean you can give everyone the business without them responding.
Freedom of speech protect you from retaliation from the government. In other countries it can get you killed or in jail. It does not protect you from retaliation from the public. For example: you can lose your job to not be associated with the views portrayed or you can be beat up for running your mouth lol
@@vlo4829 I didn't say it was legal😂, but it is an outcome and sometimes people get away with it. Again is coming from the people not the government and that's the key regardless of the legality.
I'm ready for January to be over. Can February come so that I can have the strength to teach the ignorant ones? Catch me in February or on my channel friends. This week was a lot. Too many people are lacking emotional intelligence.
Agreed with the very last thing Loni said..it's patience. Sometimes there is a legitimate reason for wanting a person to speak the same language you speak or to understand you.. it doesn't give you the right to go all "while you're in this country b, you need to. Blah blah blah" ..imagine being in that person's shoes
I completely agree with Jeannie I find myself doing that all the time it may seem like extra work but as long as they understand and get me to my destination I don't mind it at all.
I LOVE you so much Jeannie but there is no such language called Ethiopian. There are more than 80 languages spoken in Ethiopia and the main language is called Amharic. Btw, I adore your beautiful heart. 😊🤗
Loni provides good information. There’s a way to intervene and deEscalate I’ve done it many times and it’s not always easy but the key is being respectful and being the example of respect.
What the what? Taking the high road isn’t “playing” anything. MLK jr every time he gave a speech he was very elegant. You can fight racism without being rude yourself.
You are so right! She does that a lot. I think it stems from her past. She probably had no choice but to tap into respectability politics when she was an engineer. A field like that especially back then did not have many Black women. It’s almost like a reflex that’s a lot easier to do than to question or speak up.
One thing i understand is that there is a lot of Ethiopian fan here, of course i am one of them. Love these ladies. Give Jeanie a break, lot of people doesn't know that Ethiopia has different ethics groups and the state language is Amharic
Two of the roommates I live with speak straight French to each other and it’s the coolest thing ever lmao, French is a beautiful language, all types of languages are!
I’ve been through a drive-through for the person at working the drive-through cannot speak English I could not place my order I think at that point yes you have a right to a job but I also live in a country where I need to speak English in order to buy something if we cannot understand each other the business loses business and I don’t get my purchase...and let’s not forget nail salons they’re the worst for this absolutely unprofessional and it’s super annoying And I’m an immigrant by the way👈🏼 This situation that’s just crazy And I’ve also witnessed people use the broken English as an excuse to getting deals or getting what they want or taking a taxi car longer or different directions to make more money everything has good and bad
I feel like if you move to a country you should try to learn their language out of respect and its just easier for both parties BUT that does not mean you have to speak it when you are with someone who speaks your native tounge, and it does not mean you should never speak your native tounge again.
I got so happy to see loni say that they shouldnt have been mean about it. I was lowkey annoyed in part 1 because I thought they celebrated people berating that woman too much. I believe that both sides have to meet with understanding and empathy to resolve these situations.
Loni is going all technical. Racism is a very emotional issue. People are caught off guard and they react on spot. No one is prepared for a situation like that. If they are not speaking to you, why bother? Mind your own business.
I think in moments like this it should be about correcting a behavior by making sure the person is more aware about what they've done after the conversation. So education should be the focus instead of just pouring your emotions out. I know it's hard but I think it's necessary. I think it's really important to speak up in moments like this and care for each other but we should always check our intentions and triggers first before doing so. Change needs patience.
I think the whole point is... don’t approach or harass somebody for innocently doing something that does. Not directly affect you... so me as a fellow minority , would take that chance to show , hey I’m with you , I’m here for you... just as good as it can take a white person to call out another one... it can also be good for other minorities to be allies as well
Representing the "D" here. In high school i had 2 Arabic guys that sat in front of me in a class. They spoke their language to each other and as a teenager all i ever said to them about it was if your talking about me please speak English. The 3 of us laughed and that was the end. I grew up in a Greek household that spoke a lot of Greek. I never thought a thing about it. I knew it was easier for them to speak Greek.
This stuff happens everywhere and I've sadly experienced this myself with my mom while we were working at a Chinese fast food place. My mom was serving a lady (I'm not going to name her ethnicity or anything), and then had to peek around the corner to talk to the kitchen staff in Chinese. All of a sudden the same lady raises her voice out of nowhere and honestly it's realllyyy none of her business to tell us to "Speak English, we're in Canada". Why does it matter to you? She's talking to the kitchen staff... you paid and you just need to walk away and eat your food. It makes me mad just thinking about it, and I wish I said something at the time. But since it caught me off guard and I don't ever imagine these situations happening to me.. I was dumbstruck. This stuff needs to end, why's it so hard to put yourself in other people's shoes and just be more empathetic towards one another. Sorry, done ranting.
Thank you for reminding me that it is important to stand up against racism 💯 and it sucks what you had to go through. I am happy though that nothing bad happened to you and your family all the best in 2021.
In other countries bilingualism is encouraged. Here in the Bahamas if you speak another language you are more qualified for a job in the tourist industry.
i could be wrong, but a lot of racism is taught at home. i’ve noticed a lot of racist adults, and i’ve dealt with a lot of racism in the workplace from adults and i’m only 19.. it’s not okay for our kids to grow up thinking racism is okay, whether you’re black, asian, white, mexican, etc, BEING RACIST ISNT OKAY
Just want to remind everyone that no one knows what was said to the white woman before the camera started recording. Everyone is responding to her saying speak English. The clip only shows a partial story.
Yes it does matter. Of course it does. You can't judge anyone on a partial story. If someone is caused of a crime. Your on the jury you should be given the complete story not 20 seconds of the ending. Duh
being from new england, I have stories for days about racists folks. I remember being on the train one day + there was a black man who had his bike on the train during rush hour when they aren't allowed. I get it, that could frustrate some people but a group of white males that got on the train at the same stop had such an off vibe the whole time, any black or brown person could easily sense their hate. the dear brother with the bike looked like he was very to himself + super shy. the white males were talking among themselves about messing with him depending on the stop he got off at + how they just wanted to kick his bike over while on the train. so, I pulled my military card. for some stupid, weird, twisted reason being a black service member or veteran makes white folks approach black people very differently. I got on the phone + was talking loud enough about having been in the military + not taking anyone being messed with in public. the black man got off at his stop + I was ready to get off with him if those white males got off as well. they got off at a different stop + tried to smile + act polite when walking past me 😑. I got off the train beyond frustrated + angry but thankful I was there if anything did happen. like jeannie + amanda said, we have to be each other's business + be willing to stand up for one another.
Nah . I’m tired of this narrative that POC have to combat aggression and racism with kindness and cupcakes. Why tf do the people being attacked and defending the attacked always have to be the ones being kind ?!
Maya Clery totally understand :/ but the reason they say that is cause poc most likely to get in more trouble. And we don’t have to risk our lives for racist trash.
Depends on the situation. Drunk people in a bar. Ignore and move one. You don't want a bar fight and injury. Some one sober coming for you. Then speak up and let them know they are in the wrong.
You don't have to be nice, however if you want the other side to maybe actually hear you, you can't get there by being combative. People shut down once you start calling names and yelling. At that point anything you're saying is hitting a mental brick wall so might as well be arguing with yourself. If there's any hope for change (vs arguing to be right), it can't be done like that.
I am waiting for Loni to come up with a clothing line. I feel she is very stylish and represents the BBW community very well. Loni is that possible to happen anytime soon?
I’m currently living abroad. I speak very little of the language spoken here, and when I do, I speak slowly and make many mistakes, so people talk to me as if I’m stupid. Naturally, I fall back on English because I’m more expressive in English, as it’s my first language. I’d imagine the passengers on the bus feel similarly - they might speak English but are more expressive in their native tongue.
I see a ton of comments about Ethiopian not being a language in this segment, and so I just wanted to add to this topic with a gentle reminder that Native American is also not a language/there are multiple languages spoken since there are many communities of Native American/Indigenous people (I am Indigenous myself, here in Canada that is generally the preferred term). As well, Chinese is not a language. I'm guessing she was referring to Mandarin, but there are a bunch of dialects spoken in China :)
Okay, the English language is the hardest to learn for multiple reasons and asking someone to speak that language they don’t understand is asking for a lot out of a person that you don’t even know. Someone you will probably only be around for a temporary amount of time just leave them alone.
Great point Jeanie but ETHIOPIAN is a nationality, not a language. It’s like like saying someone speaks Mexican or American. We speak Amharic, Tigrinya, Orominia, and many more languages.
so she can use "freedom of speech" as her reason to attack someone for their.....freedom.....of......speech?????
Legally she can
Ya however can say she was harassing them and not using freedom of speech
😂
Exactly
It’s racism. Which is rooted in hatred and violence.
Cuckoo
When Amanda said “America acts like it’s the be all end all” I SCREAMED YES!!!!!!! Finally someone said it!! There is a whole word of people and we are ALL equal !!!!!!!
iJakeCurry im loving Amanda more and more each time I watch the real. Jeannie and Amanda and Tamera are my faves.
iJakeCurry agreed!
That's right! I love america but it's a problem
Can the church get a amen??
Loni is so right about not stopping to the racist's level and using curse words and yelling and screaming. It is very hard not to do this but it is best that you don't. Just be calm and speak intelligently and get your point across and do it with class!
Nope, I always got time for them! I'm cursing and shaming them in English and Jamaican Patois 😂.
Right
Nah, they deserved to get cussed out sorry
@@rasheemwyattreid3351 🤣🤣🤣
She's right but if they become combative, what do you do?
“If she was bothered by them speaking she should’ve put on her headphones on” 👏🏼👏🏼
Yep
NY public transit rule #1 always have your headphones! Edit:...I put mine in sometimes just so people don't talk to me. Most of the time I don't even have music playing, lol
If they're not talking to me, I don't need to understand them. Enough said.
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Completely agree
@@cprado225 Amen.
The fact that the woman had the nerve “ I love ... countries BUT if you’re in America you should speak English “ ma’am... there is no mandatory rule that says you HAVE to speak English to live in this country... you may need to do it on an accord to be able to English speakers or those who are not bilingual... but even then it’s not mandatory !
Loveli 13 you can tell she is not a vacationer🙄. Close-minded as hell!
I also love how the man told her that in the United States English isn't the official language, but actually it is the most commonly used language and many other beautiful languages are spoken in this melting pot we call a home!!
Once people start saying "but" you know they dont actually feel that way. If you really loved people from other countries you'd be a bit more understanding and not so indignant
She was left speachless for a minute when the guy said there's no official language in the US 😂
FYI, Jeannie, the primary language spoken in Ethiopia is AMHARIC. But there are several different languages spoken in the country as Ethiopia is filled with many different ethnicities!
Alma Chronicles 83 different languages with up to 200 different dialects in total! I live in Addis Ababa 🙂
@@xuxushushu Heyyy from the US! Most of us over here are familiar with Habesha people and culture but we are definitely aware that there are lots of different ethnic groups and languages spoken in your country!
Which makes the situation even more ridiculous. Had that man bothered to learn English in the first place, it wouldn't have been an inconvenience for passengers.
@@osimeon00 There is no official language in America. What is wrong with people speaking their native tongue? America is a land of immigrants and nobody spoke the various languages of the Native Americans (or tried to assimilate into Native American cultures) when they first came here so it seems hypocritical to criticize the immigrants of today.
@@ilovelife3328 Exactly
Just an FYI for some people (no shade at all)
Ethiopian is a nationality. There are over 80 dialects in the country of Ethiopia. The national language is Amharic.
Thank you !! I was thinking the same love love love her though. But you couldn’t google translate how to speak “Ethiopian” no shade as a fellow Ethiopian.
FYI?
@@shivairas6717 For Your Information.
OneLoveRSR thx
Thank you for the information 💕 I didn't know
LOVING the longer clips. We can get better context about the topic hearing more of the conversation.
Good advice, Loni! DE-ESCALATION is KEY (IF you feel comfortable doing so and won't place yourself into a dangerous situation by speaking up)! The last thing we need is more violence to erupt in this country!
Alma Chronicles true. I’m bad at de-escalation. It’s always 0 to 100 for me. But I’ve been learning because last thing I want is to get in trouble cause of a piece of trash racist
@@leviloveserwin1809 I still have to fight my instincts myself when I feel that someone is attacking me as well! It's definitely a learned skill and it doesn't come overnight. Our natural human instinct is to match the level of energy coming at us (fight or flight syndrome). But Loni is 100% correct in that aspect. De-escalation is always the solution to solving tense situations such as this one.
@@leviloveserwin1809 Yes, this too has been an issue for me. I work in retail, and I can get very caught up in my sense of outrage and "right and wrong", and it has gotten me in trouble on several occasions. I have been on a journey to learn to balance that outrage with practical concerns and realizing that screaming or harsh words just cause people to shut down instead of listen. Being at work, I have sometimes felt such shame at what I am forced to listen to, and how powerless I can be to shut racism down. I remember around Halloween sitting there listening to some woman go on and on about how kids who didn't speak English who came trick or treating (which was really just code for Hispanics in my area) were turned away without candy and stuck where I'm desperately trying to figure out what I can say without getting fired.
Alma Chronicles VERY WELL SAID!!!!👏🏽👏🏽
@@amethystwolf24572 When it comes to your livelihood, sometimes it is best to not say anything and let it go. I've been in that position before where coworkers were saying ignorant things. I would just take a LONG walk on my lunch break to calm down and not say something that would most likely end up getting me fired. I know it is hard but we have to choose our battles wisely. Outside of the work environment, we can definitely voice things in such a way that checks the ignorant person but without screaming and yelling to get our point across. I believe that people call it "nice nasty," lol. LOL, Loni and Amanda are great at holding their tongues but their expressions say it all.
Adriannne you dont have a college degree but i just realize that you make some of the best points. You are more than an assist
I agree she empathy and
emotional intelligence, a degree can’t teach you that 😂
What do having a college degree have to do with anything? There are a lot of stupid people with degrees🤔.
@@jasibae00 True 😂😂👏👏👏
Degrees has nothing to do with anything else outside of that degree. I have a master's degree myself and there are things I don't know that people with no degree know and can teach me.
His Queen ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Being an African student in China we face racism everyday from other foreigners from the so called great countries.I realized the best thing sometimes is not to shout at them but to confront them in a civilized manner.Then you can prove them I m not barbaric like you.The Best thing is also to know yourself and love who you are and whatever anyone is going to say it won’t hurt you.We are all one world.
facts !
Amen 🙏🏾
What countries? I haven't seen that there.
Sorry that you’re going through that...💔
Karabo Khwiane thanks dearest by the grace of God we are surviving.
Hey Jeannie, the language of Ethiopia is Amharic, saying he spoke Ethiopian is like saying you spoke american when you were speaking English😁
Sumantha Sookdev damn sis
We do speak American actually
Actually if you say speaking "American" it does automatically imply English. 😳
I'm sure she meant no harm. I'm sure that more than likely because she's oblivious to the Ethiopian language(s), (since she had to google it) she didnt know that there are 80 different languages not called "Ethiopian".
This is where we apply "grace" to peoples unintentional lack of knowledge.
I thought Ethiopia has many ethnic languages?
Wow I didnt know that 🔥 learn something new ever day and I'm assuming she probably didnt know
How to confront a racist:
Cuss them tf out.
Class dismissed.
Right!
I hollered and agree 🤣🤣
I’m glad Amanda joined the real, she’s very outspoken, raw & real. I enjoy her presence 🙏🏽
Me too.
Yea Loni, sounds good😂. But nah, I've been in too many situations with racist ass people and I cussed them out each and every time. No regrets🤷🏾♀️. Being calm is easier said than done.
Definitely, when u are in the situation ur not thinking about being nice. I’ve had two situations and one I was kind but the second time I wasn’t nice at all. It depends on the situation
For this one I absolutely wouldn’t have been calm
If that girl really loved every culture why isnt she cool with them expressing it around her lol
Someone tell Jeannie that Ethiopian is not a language
She also said Indigenous Americans have a language 😂 Bless her she meant well but just ignorant regarding this
@HW Agree
H W Indigenous Americans/native Americans do have their own language though. For example Navajo, Yupik, Sioux, Apache and etc.
stephyxbeauty yes but they don't have one language. There's not a Native American language.
White people aren’t the only ones who harass immigrants. Glad they are speaking about this on this platform because the viewership is diverse and needs to hear this.
Facts 💯
white americans** , not all immigrants are poc.
Ecstasy
Sure, but that’s not what my point is. Yes, there are white immigrants but I’m not referring to them in either regard.
Oh you said it !
quitecontrary23 white people are the ones who usually harass immigrants though. They're frequently caught on video doing so.
I work in the "tourist industry" so i see people from around the world. I can't tell you how many times I have to use the Google translate app, and I have no problem with it. Plus most of my co-workers speak different languages, and they speak to each other all the time, I don't mind. But.... I disagree with Jeannie with the whole "if they're talking about you.. It's none of your business". NOPE...run those concerns in English Sis!!!! People are bold when they think you don't understand, especially in the work place. Half the time they get snitched on by the buddy they were talking trash to, and then they want to express how sorry they are. 😂😂😂 It's not good to be a punk in any language.
AMEN! Glad someone acknowledged this! This is not most of the time but we can't act like it don't exist.
My co-worker is a white, redheaded guy who looks like Conor McGregor. He had the same experience with some dark-skinned, dark haired Mexicans at a fast food joint. They were joking hardcore in Spanish & laughing at some white kid waiting for his order. They didn't hold back.
So, my friend responded in Spanish. They froze and were shocked. How did my white, redheaded co-worker understand what was going on?
Well, my co-worker is 100% Mexican, too 😉... He joked with them and they've been hooking him up with free lunch ever since.
I agree but maybe she tripped over her words and meant to say, "if they arent talking to you..." that makes more sense. Idk
I agree! If I'm willing to talk about someone, I wouldn't hide behind another language, keyboard, dm, nothing
Jeannie, no such thing as Ethiopian as a language, lol. The official language is called Amharic. 😉😊
Well maybe she'll see this and be more informed, but we still got her point.
So Jeannie didn't know that at the time now what?
Jeannie, just here to educate! "Ethiopian" isn't a language. Based on the statistics of the most common language in Ethiopia, he probably spoke in Amharic which is pronounced (um-har-ric).
Jeannie is intelligent enough to know that the language spoken is from Ethiopia! she could be like, what language is he speaking?
courtney ford I’m Ghanaian but I know that Ethiopians speak Amharic as their main language but many more. I just think that it was easier for Jeannie to say “Ethiopian” as she’s not familiar what languages they speak. I know it’s ignorance though. Sometimes I even get asked “you speak Ghanaian”? Lol! 😂
this isnt the topic though lol
Conrad Hernandez little bit of Twi yes
Your freedom ENDS when you step into someone else’s freedom.
Still in 2020 we are still having to have these conversations.....fix it Jesus.🙌
Not enough Jesus is being allowed in to help fix it tbh :¬{
Tam coming through with the scriptures reference, “ Let not then your good be evil spoken of” Romans 14:16 🙌
Preach
He didn’t threaten her, he did de-escalate
RealTakerslady Michelle McCool that you?? Lol
Curlee Fryyy I wish lol
RealTakerslady Ok I’ll be Layla so we can be flawless lmbo
Curlee Fryyy LOL 👩🏼🤝👩🏽
He didn't de escalate, name calling, insulting is not de escalating. I know it's easier to just do that but he shoukd have kept calm while talking, he was just at her level.
People forget one thing about freedom, "My freedom ends where your freedom begins..."
Amanda and her faces, it makes her come across as "all knowing" and arrogant. She is brilliant though.
Sunny Bae yea she needs to work on that
She feels above them it would seem
Sunny Bae , you are wrong. Some people reflect by making faces! Italian use the face and body! it has nothing to do with disregarding the other or being arrogant!
That's her folly, but it's not ill informed
Leave her alooooooonnnnneeee!!!!!
I had to have this conversation out with my grandfather in front of family. (With respect cause if I came at him any other way he wouldn't hear me)
At a family dinner he made a racist remark as a "joke" and I stepped up and said NO. It not okay my little son is here and he has friends of all kinds of culture because it's important to love others different from you to learn and grow. I said you can't talk that way because the next generation is listening and we can stop it now. With his mouth wide open and the family silent cause no one ever called him out he apologized and he got it. Step up and call it out.
I did the exact same thing a few months ago. My mom's boyfriend made a racist joke and I told him it's not OK. But it did not work out, he believes it's only racist when it's said in a hurtful matter so if he says it jokingly or not to hurt people, it's OK. He's white and almost in his 60s but he's dating my mom, a black woman, and she doesn't correct him either, she doesn't really care which annoys me because that way they don't learn. I'm also from Europe so it's extra hard to explain these things to people who are used to saying whatever they want. 🙄🙄🙄
Ashley NW Babs that’s so admirable!Especially cause it’s not easy to call your own people out. I’m glad there are humans like you out there. We need more people like you💛
Much love from Ethiopia 🇪🇹 ❤️
I love when people say "I'm not racist but....." I'm pretty sure you're about to say something racist 😅😅😅
Or when someone says I'm racists because i have 1 or 2 friends outside my race. Or ok saying the n word. The list goes on
@Kirsty Birsty I absolutely agree. There is a total injustice against white people, they can be made fun of their race, and color and its not offensive while the other way around is. It's very stupid and talk about double standard. So many people are racist torwards white people but no one seems to care. Its very unfair, really.
@@CatarinaMangel If you take a look around when white people are racially mistreated or just mistreated by another race, they come together against it and usually that person is dealt with most if not all of the time.
This double standard was really created by white racism if you take a look at history. White people are the main ones in control of everything to be having great injustice against them as others
Being biracial with some really random mixtures, most people don’t know what my ethnicity is. So they don’t hesitate to say things around me that they wouldn’t say in front of whatever race they assume I’m NOT. I’ve been disappointed over and over hearing the things people truly say behind closed doors just because they assume it doesn’t relate to me - when it does.
Thank you the real producers for listening and covering more diverse groups 😊 #refreshing
We should definitely stand up for one another. I’m tired of certain races being against one another and trying to make the white man happy. We are all different races and when it comes down to it, the white man would stomp on either one of us. We need to all stand together and defend each other.
❤️ What was even more impact-ful was what the gentlemen said to the two people, after the fact. Thank-you, ladies, for highlighting #THIS story. ❤️
Nice conversation. Good ideas that are some times hard to do. I need to be patient first with myself and then other people. We are all tying to deal here.
She was being a buttinski. A nosy ass person. If you are not being addressed directly, move on.
Ryan A Wilson
I’m using this word yo 😂
@@darionwilson3666 you are a Wilson so I will allow it LOL
"Freedom of Speech is not Hate Speech" THANK U FOR THIS.
Freedom speech is not right for people who can abuse people and use hateful words freedom speech goes out the window when someone acts on hateful matter.Crime has committed.
Google Translate is so much the answer. In retail, I've had customers who had issues communicating in English. I found it very humbling to see how happy most of them were when I whipped out Translate on my phone, because it became clear that they were accustomed to people meeting them with frustration and even anger instead of an attempt to understand.
Jennie got lots of love from beautiful Ethiopian people
"Call the police". Hopefully those police officers will not be racist too.
I'd be lying if I said I have never said "They live in America they should speak English" (not to anyone but to myself) but this conversation made me more aware of how offensive this really is
Why should they speak English if they’re not talking to you? If you knew another language you would speak it.
Lol America is so silly in other countries people speak like over 3 languages
@@vapor5145 well that is exactly why a lot of Americans get so offended. Everyone else is learning 2-4 languages and have learned to communicate and understand the people around them. But when Americans hear a language they don't understand, it's frustrating to them. They are just mad because nobody gave them the opportunity to learn other languages when they were younger.
They only need to use or understand English in business affairs in America since English is the language that most people speak. But in their personal affairs they can speak whatever.
@@stoneghana4171 The only times I have thought this was when I went to a business and asked for help finding something and the person could not help because they didn't speak English and I'm not talking about some mom and pop shop I'm talking about like Walmart. So don't hurt yourself jumping to conclusions.
I TOTALLY LOVE AMANDA!! Finally someone besides Jeannie saying what needs to be said when it comes to race
Lol Jeannie, the language is called Amharic not Ethiopian. It's nice of her to figure out the best way of communicating with him.
I have had a white woman on the bus ordering me to hang up the phone because I was talking in a different language. I told her to change a sit if it bothered her. I also said that it's a public transportation and I can do anything I want. After that, she shut her mouth. Lol
I wish the US had "no talking on cell phone" rules on their buses. Americans tend to have such intimate and inappropriate conversations in the most public places...
I love how you had the well go sit somewhere else mentality. you're dope . white ppl need to get off their high horse.
@@vlo4829 I live in Canada and they can't ban people to use a phone because there could be emergency cases where you have to answer a call.
@@lunahestiasolaria Thanks. 😊 I was just surprised she had the nerve to come and sit beside me and interrupt my phone conversation just to ask me to hang up. I could be on a very critical call for all she knows. Lol
@The Awasa: That sounds silly. I've been places where they're not allowed, and it's so much nicer and more civilized. Buses and pretty much all public transportation has a reputation in the US as something for college students, poor people, and crazy people (maybe Canada, too?). It's a shame. Having standards does wonders for making people behave better.
(Sorry, my comment was off-topic. I realize I was typing my thoughts which weren't really about the topic at hand. Of course I don't believe in patrolling the language of random people's conversations.)
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence. It means you can speak your mind openly BUT the person you're speaking to ALSO has that right. You say something nasty and harmful to another person, they have the right to defend themselves.
Thank you freedom ain free!!!!! There's a price for everything!!!
Yeah, the panel was wrong about freedom of speech not including "hate speech". Freedom of speech includes all kinds of speech (with the exception of actual threats, I believe). Where that lady was wrong though, is that freedom of speech isn't limited to one language nor does it mean you can give everyone the business without them responding.
Freedom of speech protect you from retaliation from the government. In other countries it can get you killed or in jail. It does not protect you from retaliation from the public. For example: you can lose your job to not be associated with the views portrayed or you can be beat up for running your mouth lol
@Randy De La Cruz: No, you can't legally be "beat up". Physical assault and battery are definitely illegal. lol
@@vlo4829 I didn't say it was legal😂, but it is an outcome and sometimes people get away with it. Again is coming from the people not the government and that's the key regardless of the legality.
Yes Loni!
" Freedom of speech is not hate speech"
Ethiopian isn't a language Jeannie. It's a nationality.
Ao Jeanie is so funty hunty when she wants to fight somebody
Amanda was the PERFECT addition to this show. Perfect.
Why does Amanda always have a look on her face lol
Nayneeka Her face is just transparent she can’t help it.
Because she CAN
She is always right though.
..... Loni thought she was being funny when they mentioned how to communicate with the Uber driver and she said “Englisss??”
I'm ready for January to be over. Can February come so that I can have the strength to teach the ignorant ones? Catch me in February or on my channel friends. This week was a lot. Too many people are lacking emotional intelligence.
That's just like walking into a nail salon telling all the workers to speak English
“Need to go to hollywood, make left.” Lol I love that. Google translate does wonders for most of the language barriers.
Speaking “Ethiopian” LOL Love you Jeannie 🤣🤣 Thank you for being kind and patient! Gonna use Google translate next time I need help communicating.
Agreed with the very last thing Loni said..it's patience. Sometimes there is a legitimate reason for wanting a person to speak the same language you speak or to understand you.. it doesn't give you the right to go all "while you're in this country b, you need to. Blah blah blah" ..imagine being in that person's shoes
Great segment, ladies !!! Teaching how to disrupt racism 👍🏾 👍🏾👍🏾
I completely agree with Jeannie I find myself doing that all the time it may seem like extra work but as long as they understand and get me to my destination I don't mind it at all.
I LOVE you so much Jeannie but there is no such language called Ethiopian. There are more than 80 languages spoken in Ethiopia and the main language is called Amharic. Btw, I adore your beautiful heart. 😊🤗
Loni provides good information. There’s a way to intervene and deEscalate I’ve done it many times and it’s not always easy but the key is being respectful and being the example of respect.
Loni loves playing into respectability politics to please the oppressors...so lame
And I get that. But it does matter that u stay above their level
What the what? Taking the high road isn’t “playing” anything. MLK jr every time he gave a speech he was very elegant. You can fight racism without being rude yourself.
You are so right! She does that a lot. I think it stems from her past. She probably had no choice but to tap into respectability politics when she was an engineer. A field like that especially back then did not have many Black women. It’s almost like a reflex that’s a lot easier to do than to question or speak up.
BE KIND THATS THE KEY PEOPLE JUST BE BE KIND TO EVERYONE!!!
god speak all languages That why we speak different language because we come from God we are all his children can't we all just get along
Beautiful and timely conversation...
One thing i understand is that there is a lot of Ethiopian fan here, of course i am one of them. Love these ladies. Give Jeanie a break, lot of people doesn't know that Ethiopia has different ethics groups and the state language is Amharic
Two of the roommates I live with speak straight French to each other and it’s the coolest thing ever lmao, French is a beautiful language, all types of languages are!
Lol that's why I was screaming at my phone "Google translate!"
Finally, some real topics.
This guy did a God job. He didn't yell or use curse words or name calling. He made fun of her and all but kept it light. Good job.
I always put on noise-canceling headphones in public areas especially when people talk a lot.
I’ve been through a drive-through for the person at working the drive-through cannot speak English I could not place my order I think at that point yes you have a right to a job but I also live in a country where I need to speak English in order to buy something if we cannot understand each other the business loses business and I don’t get my purchase...and let’s not forget nail salons they’re the worst for this absolutely unprofessional and it’s super annoying
And I’m an immigrant by the way👈🏼
This situation that’s just crazy
And I’ve also witnessed people use the broken English as an excuse to getting deals or getting what they want or taking a taxi car longer or different directions to make more money everything has good and bad
Amanda has so many facial expressions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I feel like if you move to a country you should try to learn their language out of respect and its just easier for both parties BUT that does not mean you have to speak it when you are with someone who speaks your native tounge, and it does not mean you should never speak your native tounge again.
I got so happy to see loni say that they shouldnt have been mean about it. I was lowkey annoyed in part 1 because I thought they celebrated people berating that woman too much. I believe that both sides have to meet with understanding and empathy to resolve these situations.
Thank god! We are finally highlighting racism towards asians! We need more conversation about it! Is time!
.I've been told that a TON and always my answer is "ain't my fault you're uncultured".
Loni is going all technical. Racism is a very emotional issue. People are caught off guard and they react on spot. No one is prepared for a situation like that. If they are not speaking to you, why bother? Mind your own business.
I think in moments like this it should be about correcting a behavior by making sure the person is more aware about what they've done after the conversation. So education should be the focus instead of just pouring your emotions out. I know it's hard but I think it's necessary.
I think it's really important to speak up in moments like this and care for each other but we should always check our intentions and triggers first before doing so.
Change needs patience.
I think the whole point is... don’t approach or harass somebody for innocently doing something that does. Not directly affect you... so me as a fellow minority , would take that chance to show , hey I’m with you , I’m here for you... just as good as it can take a white person to call out another one... it can also be good for other minorities to be allies as well
thankyou for helping my brother(Ethiopian) Jennie.
Everyone's makeup is soooooo on point
Representing the "D" here. In high school i had 2 Arabic guys that sat in front of me in a class. They spoke their language to each other and as a teenager all i ever said to them about it was if your talking about me please speak English. The 3 of us laughed and that was the end. I grew up in a Greek household that spoke a lot of Greek. I never thought a thing about it. I knew it was easier for them to speak Greek.
This stuff happens everywhere and I've sadly experienced this myself with my mom while we were working at a Chinese fast food place. My mom was serving a lady (I'm not going to name her ethnicity or anything), and then had to peek around the corner to talk to the kitchen staff in Chinese. All of a sudden the same lady raises her voice out of nowhere and honestly it's realllyyy none of her business to tell us to "Speak English, we're in Canada". Why does it matter to you? She's talking to the kitchen staff... you paid and you just need to walk away and eat your food. It makes me mad just thinking about it, and I wish I said something at the time. But since it caught me off guard and I don't ever imagine these situations happening to me.. I was dumbstruck. This stuff needs to end, why's it so hard to put yourself in other people's shoes and just be more empathetic towards one another. Sorry, done ranting.
Thank you for reminding me that it is important to stand up against racism 💯 and it sucks what you had to go through. I am happy though that nothing bad happened to you and your family all the best in 2021.
I feel Jeanie on that google translate lol Living in Miami, I lived around a bunch of Cubans so I always got Spanish drivers 😂
In other countries bilingualism is encouraged. Here in the Bahamas if you speak another language you are more qualified for a job in the tourist industry.
I love the joy Jeannie has
i could be wrong, but a lot of racism is taught at home. i’ve noticed a lot of racist adults, and i’ve dealt with a lot of racism in the workplace from adults and i’m only 19..
it’s not okay for our kids to grow up thinking racism is okay, whether you’re black, asian, white, mexican, etc, BEING RACIST ISNT OKAY
Just want to remind everyone that no one knows what was said to the white woman before the camera started recording. Everyone is responding to her saying speak English. The clip only shows a partial story.
Does it really matter? She should have never said that in the first place. Soooo ignorant
Yes it does matter. Of course it does. You can't judge anyone on a partial story. If someone is caused of a crime. Your on the jury you should be given the complete story not 20 seconds of the ending. Duh
I think Jeannie meant to say Ethiopian nationality and not language. Ppl make mistakes, but y’all get the point she was trying to make.
being from new england, I have stories for days about racists folks. I remember being on the train one day + there was a black man who had his bike on the train during rush hour when they aren't allowed. I get it, that could frustrate some people but a group of white males that got on the train at the same stop had such an off vibe the whole time, any black or brown person could easily sense their hate. the dear brother with the bike looked like he was very to himself + super shy. the white males were talking among themselves about messing with him depending on the stop he got off at + how they just wanted to kick his bike over while on the train. so, I pulled my military card. for some stupid, weird, twisted reason being a black service member or veteran makes white folks approach black people very differently. I got on the phone + was talking loud enough about having been in the military + not taking anyone being messed with in public. the black man got off at his stop + I was ready to get off with him if those white males got off as well. they got off at a different stop + tried to smile + act polite when walking past me 😑. I got off the train beyond frustrated + angry but thankful I was there if anything did happen. like jeannie + amanda said, we have to be each other's business + be willing to stand up for one another.
Nah . I’m tired of this narrative that POC have to combat aggression and racism with kindness and cupcakes. Why tf do the people being attacked and defending the attacked always have to be the ones being kind ?!
Maya Clery totally understand :/ but the reason they say that is cause poc most likely to get in more trouble. And we don’t have to risk our lives for racist trash.
@@leviloveserwin1809 only in America
Depends on the situation. Drunk people in a bar. Ignore and move one. You don't want a bar fight and injury. Some one sober coming for you. Then speak up and let them know they are in the wrong.
You don't have to be nice, however if you want the other side to maybe actually hear you, you can't get there by being combative. People shut down once you start calling names and yelling. At that point anything you're saying is hitting a mental brick wall so might as well be arguing with yourself. If there's any hope for change (vs arguing to be right), it can't be done like that.
Auntie Lonnie is taking care of us all with this deescalation advice.
The smartest comment, "stand up for one another regardless of race"
I am waiting for Loni to come up with a clothing line. I feel she is very stylish and represents the BBW community very well. Loni is that possible to happen anytime soon?
Lane Bryant is good. But I'm looking forward to LONI'S CLOTHING LINE.
Y’all they gave Jeannie a step stool 😂 finally!!
I’m currently living abroad. I speak very little of the language spoken here, and when I do, I speak slowly and make many mistakes, so people talk to me as if I’m stupid. Naturally, I fall back on English because I’m more expressive in English, as it’s my first language. I’d imagine the passengers on the bus feel similarly - they might speak English but are more expressive in their native tongue.
You’re learning another language which means you know two languages!! I would say the ones who can only handle one language are they stupid ones! Haha
I see a ton of comments about Ethiopian not being a language in this segment, and so I just wanted to add to this topic with a gentle reminder that Native American is also not a language/there are multiple languages spoken since there are many communities of Native American/Indigenous people (I am Indigenous myself, here in Canada that is generally the preferred term). As well, Chinese is not a language. I'm guessing she was referring to Mandarin, but there are a bunch of dialects spoken in China :)
Okay, the English language is the hardest to learn for multiple reasons and asking someone to speak that language they don’t understand is asking for a lot out of a person that you don’t even know. Someone you will probably only be around for a temporary amount of time just leave them alone.
I smile when I hear others speak their language it makes me proud to be a New Yorker
Loni is making so much sense! Go Loni!!
Good on you Jeannie mai for helping that Ethiopian man.
Great point Jeanie but ETHIOPIAN is a nationality, not a language. It’s like like saying someone speaks Mexican or American. We speak Amharic, Tigrinya, Orominia, and many more languages.