Said the exact same thing! This feels like THE Real from season 1. And you could tell they were all passionate about what they were talking about too! They actually cared.
rem stew I lost my son full term. It’s a scary reality NO one warned me of. Pregnancy was and is a beautiful thing - but also not to be taken lightly. ❤️😩
My first pregnancy birth was traumatic; I almost died. Fast forward 5yrs later I’m pregnant again and praying I don’t have any complications. #Prayerrequest
💜💜💜 Just know that even though it was probably very scary the first time focus on how strong you were/are to make it thru that. Positive thoughts and prayers! Also maybe listen to positive music to keep your mind from going other places during it 💜💜💜
Honestly I worked as a receptionist for three years in the state of TN a lot of people are being ignored bc doctors are lazy. They’re like lawyers the world has lots of them but very few good ones. Also if they know you for being loud they’ll sometimes even skip you and go to the next patient just to keep you waiting longer bc “you’re a difficult patient” a lot of this patients were white so we got a lot of lazy people also working not wanting to do the damn charting bc it takes them long so everything is “normal” and “take some Advil” and “water compressions” and “drink more water” and “steroids” is what they’ll sent you home with. Sad but true.
@@miraclenworah1473 I am so sorry to hear that, I hope you gain the opportunity to relocate and live your best God given life! Stay positive and stay strong.
This made me cry, especially after watching Tamera struggle to hold it together. My heart bleeds for these women and everyone affected by this. I can't believe bias training is even a thing. I am sickened.
I am a Registered nurse and a black woman. I would not advise people to raise hell in the sense of yelling and screaming but I would tell people that they should advocate for themselves. If your nurse isn't listening to you ask to speak to the charge nurse, if that doesn't work ask for a nurse manager, if that doesn't work ask for a nurse supervisor. Don't hesitate to ask for your doctor to come speak to you. If you're not happy with the care you are receiving try to go somewhere else as long as it's safe to do that.
This may sound jacked up but they may not have a case. If she told the hospital staff she was leaving they are suppose to have her sign a form starting she is leaving against medical advice. This might be a little tricky.
@@lindsaym6607 did you watch the whole video? she didnt leave because she wanted to, they told her to go home twice because everything checked out both times she went to the ER and they planned to induce her Monday but she ended up having her baby naturally on Sunday.... at her age they should've already been induced her because she was already high risk because of her age.
justin m- Sadly, I agree with you. She left the hospital having complained of chest pain, after a chest X-ray but before getting a diagnosis or treatment. She more than likely would have been discharged AMA “against medical advice” and would have had to signed a form stating as much- family won’t have a case. If she just left the hospital without telling anyone then the family most definitively won’t have a case.
@@BizzzyBee The Real got some parts of the story wrong. The ER ran tests and did an X-ray. They told her that it would be a 2-6 hour wait to see the dr. and get treatment. She left without being seen and discharged due to the long wait time. The health care system needs a serious overhaul. The wait time should not be that long.
I feel for that woman . I can’t imagine losing my child .i went to the hospital when my water broke while using the bathroom only to be told to go home because it was my hips that popped. Went back hours later with cramps only to be told my water did break . My baby stayed in the nicu for days . He could have died from inhaling all the fluids. I know nw that I need to make my voice be heard
@@RaneemOrk wow, is she okay mentally and physically? I'm so sorry for your family, and do you know if she wants anymore kids? If she does, good luck and god bless her🙏🏿
I was 18 weeks pregnant and had the most painful feeling in my abdomen. My husband rushed me to the ER, they basically told us to sit and wait. I’m hunched over in pain and had to wait 2 hrs crying from the pain. My husband was fuming mad and had to go and raise hell to get me seen. They finally took me in the back and pulled some blood and I went pale and fainted. That’s when the ER nurses took me seriously. I could have lost my baby due to their “take a number and wait” attitude.
Rocka10 And my heart goes out to her friend 😞 ok I mean imagine giving birth to a dead baby my god those doctors are monsters they are not humans at all. 💯😒😞
@Ph0uad SO WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE SEEING AS TO HOW YOU ARE ANTI- LIFE, OR ARE YOU JUST ANTI-LIFE FOR OTHERS? MUST HAVE BEEN NICE BEING BORN A PERSON AND NOT A BABY! IF EXISTENCE IS NOT A GOOD THING CHECK OUT AND LEAVE THE REST OF US TO THRIVE ON AND RECOGNISE BABIES AS PEOPLE: BYE!
Ph0uad nobody NEEDS to exist. It is a very bad thing if a baby dies because of the inadequacy of the healthcare professionals. That’s is very very bad! The baby didn’t have to die and that’s the issue. It’s not about how the world is a hard place and the baby didn’t miss much because it isn’t a fully grown human! If something bad happened when it didn’t have to then that’s the issue!
Its sad that so many people in the medical community perceive women to be over dramatic, so they don't take our concerns seriously. And as women we try not to show weakness or try not to be dramatic so we don't communicate our needs as strongly as we should. Both sides need help.
@@auntmelisa8689 studies show that it happens to black women more educated or not rich or not. Look at Serena Williams she's the best athlete and have access to the best medical care and even her doctors did believe her they didn't listen to her. Had she not press the issue she could have died.
Im a black registered emergency department nurse coming up on my 10yr mark.First things first my heart goes out to this woman. Working in the ER is the most difficult unit to work in. You are under staffed, under paid, under appreciated and constantly abused verbally, emotionally as well as physically by patients and other staff. Not only do we have walk in’s but we are constantly getting patients coming in from ems. And sadly at times all our rooms are full and there’s no where to move patients. And we are recognized more for our few failures instead praised for our many accomplishments. So please don’t group all nurses together because most of us are trying to do our best with the small amount of resources we have. If you’ve never worked in a hospital please be mindful of your words because you don’t truly understand till you're caring for 5 patients solo, with a waiting room with 20 plus patients waiting to be seen and ambulances arriving with more folks to be seen.
Jay Simpson I deal with anxiety and I make sure they know what I’m feeling and they do what they need to do to rule out anything serious. But, unfortunately there are doctors and nurses who ignore symptoms and just brush things off and that’s unacceptable!
Omg yes this needs to be talked about more especially when they know you have a history of anxiety they are like “it’s just anxiety” and don’t check correctly for chest pain
That's what doctors repeatedly told my aunt for years and now she has stage 4 colon cancer. They also thought she was manifesting her anxiety as pain. >.
Omg the "it's anxiety" thing is the worse. I was in the hospital one time having complications. I had just been diagnosed with an autoimmune and I had gone through what I actually knew to be anxiety. This was definitely not it. They tried to give me pills for it while being hospitalized and I threw them away. After that experience, I just save up for a herbalist now. If I feel fine, I'll get a regular check up but if something is off, I go to my herbalist. He was able tell me that my lungs were very weak before my doctor did.
My sister was turned away when she went into labor. They said she was over exaggerating with her screaming because they "checked" her and said she wasn't even 2 centimeters dialated yet which I knew was a lie. Her due date was two days away so they shouldnt have been so dismissive. It took us 20 minutes to get home and she gave birth as soon as we got there. I Thank god everyday because she and my nephew had a 70% chance of DYING that day. Her placenta burst as soon as it came out. Its just said that this is really an ongoing problem when it comes to black woman.
That's the worst part when doctors assume someone is exaggerating. If they feel pain then check up on them seriously because they don't feel what the patient feels
Some people don't out of fear! I've seen strangers get kicked out for being "dangerous" while being emotional, scared, and sick!! I learned from that incident!!
@@NorryaParsa dont get violent, get loud!!! Loud enough to make them stop what they're doing and get you in a room at minimum so you dont alarm anybody else waiting. Once you're in a room they will see you much quicker because now you're on their time and they need that room you're in! The goal is to get you in and out! Be careful with that because you dont want them to rush you either make sure when you leave there you are in a better state then which you came or dont leave!
@@NorryaParsa 100% agree! My brother went to the hospital for stomach issues and when the doctors treated him as a joke, he went outside to calm down and get fresh air. The hospital sent security to follow and watch his every move because he could be "dangerous" When in reality the hospital was being racist. Smh 🙄
My brother acted out in an ER a week ago...he said the doctor was being rough to his stepson. He was arrested and now has cps on his butt...so dont act out lol
I worked for a large hospital. They implemented bias and diversity which was mandatory. I thought great. Until I got to the auditorium the next day....the mandated the training only for the staff of color. There wasn't a white person anywhere except for the trainer. I looked around confused. At one point, when they asked for feedback/comments...i let them have it. I asked how can you as a white person who lives in a mostly white state going teach me about bias and diversity? From the time I was 5 and in school, I had to learn how to straddle two cultures. I went from speaking English at school to Spanish at home; from adjusting to school norms to my cultural norms and back again. Why would any person of color be mandated when we know what it is first hand. Why aren't any of my white co workers here? They are the ones who need it. This didn't go so well and I ended up being fired.
This episode really makes me confused as to why people don’t like Amanda. She really aims to teach people of colour how to navigate such a difficult world. She always bring some type of interesting knowledge and yet black people want to constantly complain that they don’t like someone that is standing up for them.
She is very outspoken and 9/10 she is the smartest in the room when it comes race because most people in Hollywood are used to white rules and behavior. It is a gift and a curse. Even people from HBCUs are trained to move like white people are watching.
That's why she has always been articulate in her own way she's really intelligent and knows we what's out here I've never been against her shes her own person
She has been mean and nasty to people and even dismissive of people with opinions that are different from her. She has been really good on the show for now and seems to fit, but so far all the women have been in agreement on issues. I am waiting to see what haopens when someone doesn't agree with her.
She is honestly not horrible all over. She says good stuff, but she's been pretty negative and dismissive generally. One example is her insinuating that Jillian was being racist because of the lizzo comments. Loni too, but the reason why she gets more hate is because at least the other women are warm and get along well almost all of the time and seem more likeable
I love that Amanda said " YOU know your body". I remember when I was in labour with my first daughter, I kept calling my midwife to let her know how my labour was progressing. She kept shrugging me off and saying I was not in active labour just yet. I think, I because she may have seem many women in labour "overreact". But I was listening to my body and I knew I was close to giving birth. She Finally showed up to my house and checked me and said I still have a long way to go .. and she left. Long story short, she never even made it to the birth. My baby was nearly delivered by my husband and sister. Paramedics rushed into my home just in time as my baby was coming out.
It's sad but we have to remember that sociopaths and psychopaths make their way into this field too. They are in it for the money and status. Everyone doesn't actually have empathy.
That’s why I wanna be a doctor. Specially an OB-GYN. I’ve heard too many horrible stories and I don’t want anyone, regardless of race, to have any complications with their health. I think there should also be more black doctors to help with these problems. #NoMorePain
Christina Mensah I’m with you girl! I’m a black , female 2nd year med student and this story made me so angry. I’m excited to have the opportunity to be a doctor that people of all races and backgrounds can talk to openly and know that their problems will be taken seriously and never overlooked.
When my sister was 3, my mum was setting the table for dinner and my sister climbed on the table to get a glass. She knocked over the glass, fell, and crushed the glass with her palms. My parents took her to the ER where they loosely bandaged her hands (with the glass still in them) and told my parents to wait. 2 hours later and the nurses are yelling at my mom to “control her child” who is upset bc she has glass shards in her hands! Well my dad raised HELL and that is when they were finally seen! My dad says after he spoke up the entire tone changed. Before my dad spoke up, the hospital was insinuating abuse and my parents were just trying to “behave”. After my dad spoke up, they started calling my parents sir and ma’am! And they finally took care of my sister.
carmapuchiella So sad that we need men to say something for people to take women seriously as if they are the only gender with any sense of body and mind
Unfortunately I worked in a small neighborhood hospital ER. And everyone knows chest pain gets priority. So everyone states "I'm having chest pain and shortness of breath ". It's hard at times to decipher who's really telling the truth. While we try to get ALL chest pain in right away it's hard when everyone has the same complaints and there are no more ER rooms available. We do try to get EKGs and blood work started in triage as well as xray. It's not due to bias. Not saying that there might not be any bias in some situations but there are other situations we have to look at as well. Also when ppl coming in "raising hell" it is also staff abuse. I don't have the perfect answer. The area I worked EVERYONE used the ED for primary care and not got emergencies. I've had a patient "raising hell" over being pushed back because they had a hang nail and we took an asthmatic patient first. Or ppl coming in with a cold and raising hell cause we took someone who was shot. 🤷🏾♀️ I think healthcare over all needs to be reviewed and laws should be put in place for betterment of all people including hospital staff.
This is so heartbreaking and sad. It sickens me to think that after all this time racism still exists. No one should be turned away because of their skin color especially in the medical area!!!
This is so heart breaking to me. I’m Mexican but hearing this story feels like if you are any other color than white you completely get treated differently. I’m just saying cause I remember going into the ER and in complete pain. I had an ectopic pregnancy. They wanted to send me home and I was scared to go home. I was scared because a woman’s life ended in a neglectful hospital for sending her home and the family lost her when they didn’t want to take her off life support but the court ruled in favor of the hospital to pull the plug. She was on the news. I luckily had my mother who held her ground and if they wanted to send me home to give me a statement to guarantee my safety with this ectopic pregnancy. After all that I ended up going into surgery because they had no choice and I was already internally bleeding that could have resulted me in death. I already am a mother to a daughter and if I had died she would have never known who her mother is.
Shut tf up... I am white and they treat me the same way in the er.. I almost bleed out waiting for them to see me.. ended up going to a different hospital.. it's not color it's the workers at the hospitals.
Eren Jeager maybe it does depends on the hospital but it’s also known that women are still not treated seriously sometimes because we could be “over dramatic” of our concerns. I do understand that many Dr’s do actually care and some just want to over look something and send you home. So I completely understand and I try to look at both ends.
Don't lose your empathy. A lot of nurses do because of high stress and bad nurse culture in some jobs.Listen to your instincts.Remember your patients are people not just a number.Wish you the best❤✌👏
Me too girl! I also work in a pediatric office. Caring for people is my PASSION. I can't imagine why someone would want to be a medical professional and not have a HEART😔
I'm actually taking OB at the moment, so I'm extremely sensitive towards pregnant women and neonates. Any little thing has me immediately at their bedside
Amanda is so well educated and woke! 😂♥️ I love her on this show, many of the things she advocates and speaks for are things we all should all know and bring more attention to!
Another thing I wanna say is black women are taught if somethings wrong just keep on pushing... so if you do feel something is wrong... PLEASE DON’T WAIT til you’re “ comfortable enough to talk about it “ Buffie Purselle from Married to Medicine had a pronounced lump under her armpit and she was afraid of the unknown so she kept stalling to tell Simone... Ladies. If you want the truth as well as the right treatment , please pick good doctors and not just a black doctor cuz they mess you up too... as well as be open to communicating
God bless her soul, I feel for her family and I am someone whose had a terrible experience with a doctor in Cary N.C. I’ve never had to convince someone I was in pain and have them tell me to my face that I was lying and that I was basically there not to get help, but to get out of work, after the first visit. He was so rude and even yelled at me. I made the mistake of not bringing at least one of parents or boyfriend with me. I completely agree the ladies! Amanda, that was great advice. Ladies no matter what. Please try your best to to bring someone with you and keep all your documents. You are important ❤️
@@user-nq6um4bs5y sometimes there is no need to generalise. This is an ongoing problem with BLACK WOMEN and women of color since slavery. Doctors dismiss the pains of women of color.
@@mzstacystacks3168 if there are no major complications during the pregnancy I've heard nothing but awesome stories about Doulas and home births... the biggest risk is of something goes wrong during the delivery where mommy and baby need to be rushed to the hospital. If you have a good Doula that knows what they're doing they will have you at a hospital the first signs of anything alarming.
@@triplea7536 What do you consider an extremely long wait time? As a person who lives with a chronic illness (renal disease/kidney failure) I'm no stranger to ER's, and depending on how busy they are, I've waited anywhere from 4hrs, to 12hrs. I know people without insurance, that have literally spent an entire day, (as in 24 hrs) in a crappy, overcrowded ER in a general hospital. I have friends that live in Canada, who think 2 hrs is a long wait time, and for someone like me; that's considered getting lucky!
You can also ask for a patient advocate at the hospital. Do this especially if you feel you are not being heard or are being bullied/coerced into anything you do not feel comfortable with. Ask questions,what medication are you giving me? Are there other options? What are the risks? What will this test show? Bring a notebook and write everything down. You can also request a copy of everything done that day before you've been discharged. If anything is missing make sure they add it to your chart before you go. Also, don't sign those digital signatures. Ask for a printed copy and read everything first!
Threaten to sue. Because no matter if you drop the case if you can't afford it. You can make their medical mal practice insurance more than their Mortgage and student loans. So it may not be payment to you but they will still have to pay. Example: You have a case and you choose too sue the higher the number you sue for they can settle it with you and their insurance will go up or you drop it but because the number was so high the hospital may let them go cause they are a risk and they insurance would go up.
I think that the health care systems needs to be be treated less like a business, and more of a government agency where they just can’t afford to be understaffed. If they need to hire a doctor or two more to be able to make sure that people are seen at an adequate amount of time, then so be it! I’ve recently been to the hospital 2 in the last 3 months, and I didn’t experience it personally, but I saw many patients waiting hours! Because there wasn’t a doctor in to see those coming in. The first time I came in, I waited 4 hours because someone had a cardiac arrest and that doctor left to take care of them. Great job for taking care of the Patient in critical danger, but bad on them for not having someone else in to keep the rest of the patients seen. I understand having another doctor on hand ready is costly, but lives are valuable! And hospitals get paid one way or another, so they need to stop worrying about saving money and focus on hiring the right staff!
And nurses be patient advocates! We took an oath as well. If your patient tells you they are not feeling good the least you could do is take there vitals and not just assume everything is okay! And communicate!
I am so here for this segment!!! More of this kind of content!! 👉🏽Also something I learned from Black women‼️To add to what Amanda said, if the doctor declines your request for medication or treatment, etc., tell them you want it on file that they declined and why! Sometimes they will change their mind or look into things more thoroughly.
Agree! My brother went to the hospital for a stomach issue and the doctors started treating him quite rudely. He went outside to calm down and the hospital sent security to stand by him because he might be "dangerous" That was the most racist hospital if I ever saw one.
I''m really glad the ladies seem to be discussing important issues like this. While it can be nice to escape all the drama with some light topics I always felt they should be using their platform more often to highlight serious issues like this as well so keep it up please : )
I literally went to the ER at 37.5 weeks pregnant and my husband told them that I was in labor. I was waiting in the car because I couldn't walk. They didn't even offer me a wheelchair. I walked in on my own. Because I wasn't screaming my head off in agony they told me to just fill out some paperwork and wait. The next 15-20 minutes felt like an eternity! When they got me back on the table and checked my cervix I was dilated 8.5 - 9 centimeters! I could have had my baby right there in the waiting room because I wasn't taken seriously. In my situation the lady with the unempathetic attitude behind the desk was Black. Unfortunately, sometimes Black women can be the worst to each other. Shame on this country for the way Black women are treated by outsiders and within our own community. We should always advocate for one another. SMH
Kai Ro medical professionals are just desensitized in general... trust me I was a student nurse and they don’t give two flips unless you bring in the big money.
That family does have a law suit on their hands. They can sue the hospital and come for those nurses and doctors license. There are protocols set in place world wide that chest pain should be treated the same where ever you go. Idk why they didn’t at least try MONA and obtain a 12 lead EKG. 🤦♀️
The quiet patients are the ones you have to be more careful with in an ER, they tend be quiet because they feel so awful they dont cause a ruckus like some patients that usually dont have anything life threatening
Ever since Amanda joined I be watching the real with a dictionary on the coffee table!!!! I AM HERE for the English! Love you Amanda! You are a great addition to this lituation.
I honestly feel for women and black women first and foremost because the reality is when it comes to the your health and body... YOU know your body better than any doctor , nurse , CNA , caretaker & etc should... so if you don’t feel well... don’t push it under the rug... keep it up here in your head and verbally explain what’s going on , how long it’s been happening , & what kind of pains , aches , soreness whatever... because enable for the doctor to work with what’s going on you have to be precise !
This makes me want to cry. I could tell Tam was trying to hold it together in Part One while reading the news. I am also 25 + went to the ER 2 days before the new year because of on-going chest pain + discomfort. Last year I lost count how many times I've been to the ER + hospital appointments. I've had very frustrating days at the ER as well, knowing that I'm not taken seriously because I'm a Black (and Native) woman. I remember one time, in particular, a white female nurse came into my room + was automatically dismissive of my symptoms + acted as if she knew more about me than me. That day I had my mother with me because I had been to the ER so many times without answers + it's sad that we had to give this woman attitude to let her know that I was serious about my health. Fast forward to this last time I was in the ER, I finally found out what has been causing my chest pain, discomfort + occasional shortness of breath. I was treated the best I've ever been treated by ER doctors + nurses. I literally thought to myself, "did these folk just read an article on Black female fatalities caused by the carelessness of medical professionals?" I am thankful that I got + am getting the help that I need + so so sad that dear Tashonna didn't. side note: I love that Jeannie brought up doulas + the lack of quality perinatal care for Black women because that's exactly why I'm becoming a doula. also, Indigenous women are facing these same struggles. please keep having these conversations, ladies 🙏🏽🧡.
I am so glad I had a black nurse during my labor & delivery. She was sent from the heavens. She took care of me so well I felt like I knew her all my life. Hearing Tam's story made me tear up. Doctors sometimes makes mistakes, but there's a difference in a mistake & just failing to communicate with or respect your patient. Now a days when I go in to the doctor, I ensure that my doctors SIT DOWN with me. It is also important that we are open & honest with our doctors, no matter how embarrassing. I tell my doctors that I KNOW MY BODY. If they want to run XYZ test, I want to know the results and it be explained to me to the fullest.
My mom who is Mexican got turned away from the dr as well when she was pregnant with my brother. One week he just stopped moving in her stomach and she knew something was wrong. She called and they turned her away. Well October 25 she went in, all glammed up btw because she was suppose to go to a party that night, and demanded they look at her, & refused to leave till they did. Turns out her water was leaking, so my brother was being suffocated, and he pooped in the stomach. She got a C section that day and thankfully my brother was born a healthy. He just turned 17 about 3 months ago.
Yo I didn't know I would like Amanda so much! It seems they've gotten more organized with their discussions since she's been there. She helps everyone stay on topic and they dont just yell over each other anymore! I love it!
I can say that it also depends on your physician as well. I am currently 35 weeks pregnant and I have been under the same physician for 10+ years. During my pregnancy, he has been so thorough and so concerned with my health that it is amazing. Any form of discomfort or ill feeling I have he is adamant about looking into it. I never feel like my symptoms are ignored or down played. He is SO passionate about his patients and it shows.
OMG 😱 That is heartbreaking, I could hear Tamera’s voice breaking. I hope she sues them for everything and win! I couldn’t imagine going through something like that, I’d probably be in prison. 😡
That's so sad. My daughter passed away in the womb 1 week before her due date. It had nothing to do with doctors being negligent though. My body was suffering from blood clots all on the inside. And the blood clots took over the placenta and prevented food or oxygen from getting to her, is what they told me. So she passed. Its tragic losing your child, so I can def feel your friend's pain to some extent. Wishing her well.
This felt like the old good days of the real when they spoke about real issues affecting real people not the celeb gossip circle they were trying to turn their intelligent minds to please girls continue the hard work this is what we love and this is why we watch you...kisses and hugs.
I'm glad they spoke about this topic. I am a RN and black women and know these stats. When I was pregnant with my twins I had extreme anxiety about my pregnancy, giving birth and recovery. I vetted my OBGYN thoroghly and when she retired in the middle of my pregnancy my heart was broken. I was given another doctor in the practice and when I felt like she wasn't a good fit I requestes another. I encourage women to read about pregnancy(from legit sources) and educate yourself. I was lucky enough to have a both a specialist and OBGYN doctor that took me seriously. If your doctor doesn't stand up for you, find ANOTHER or maybe even a nurse midwife. My doctor's where the ones ensuring I had what I needed while at the hospital. It is important to have a healthcare provider you have a report with. If someone else delivers you and you don't feel like you are being heard ask for your doctor or someone for there practice. Nurse isn't hearing you ask for the charge nurse or a different nurse. Most hospitals have patient advocates request one if you are having issues.
As a person who is training to be in the medical field, I absolutely agree with what the ladies are saying! KNOW YOUR BODY! Only you can voice how you feel! And if you feel something, like Loni said, RAISE👏🏽 HELL👏🏽 (when necessary)
It’s IMPORTANT to always make the medical professionals attending you aware of what you feel. Even if you think it’s minor, it can make a difference. Ask questions, never think you’re asking a stupid question, most patients going into a hospital or clinic don’t have medical knowledge, and even the ones that do, might not know certain things. Don’t feel embarrassed to say what is going on, and if they don’t pay attention to you when you’re in pain, yes, make noise and let them know you’re in pain. Go with a friend or family member because they can tell the medical professionals things you might have missed. If you don’t understand something, don’t be afraid to ask. Your health is important!
You out of all people in the world out of 7.5 billion people know your body well! Don’t let anybody tell you differently. EVER! Ask to be seen by another physician and if not an emergency change to another clinic people trust me. Doctors are like lawyers the world has a bunch but only a few good ones.
I am so GLAD that this was a topic. I know too many occasions where this has happened to my family and friends. It really is fustrating and it feels helpless cause you walk away with nothing knowing something is wrong but you can't do nothing but take the doctor's word and pay an expensive bill. Now I'm educated on something and God forbid this happens to a love one but just incase I'm aware of what I am suppose to do. Thank you for this conversation
I’m a Hispanic woman and just two weeks ago went into the ER for chest pain and asthma. I was told to wait. I told them I needed someone immediately, they took my vitals and had me wait for close to two hours. I had to drive myself to another hospital. To this day, I know I made it by the grace of God because there is no other explanation. The valet at the second hospital knew something was wrong. I went into the ER and saw a doctor within minutes. It’s ridiculous that this has to happen. I know if I would’ve waited at the first hospital, I would not be here to tell the story. Bringing someone with me may have helped me in this situation. Don’t let anyone, professional or not, tell you you’re “fine” when you clearly know yourself and know you are not. Thank you ladies for this awareness. It’s so disheartening that it has to be due to these biased situations. Prayers and love to all that have been impacted negatively.
I work in an ER and our wait time unfortunately gets up to 10 sometimes even 12 hours on a "okay" day. I really feel bad for people waiting but alot of it is miseducation about what's an "emergency" and can be a doctor's visit. Thankfully the hospital I work for is a pediatrics, cardiac and stroke center so when a patient walks in saying the golden words we take immediate action. I'm just a tech but if something doesn't look right I speak up no matter what.
@Sudan Nutella what are you talking about. what do you know about habasha women. I am Ethiopian and we are confident in who we are, in our culture and so on. Since you are from Sudan you have no idea what you're talking about us. so keep you lies to your self. Thanks.
As current nursing student this brings pain to my heart to hear there’ stories and know that there are 1000’s of more out there like this. I hope that when I start working I can help change other employees viewpoints and hospital policies when it comes to “unknown patient discrimination.”
As heartbreaking as this topic is this was a really great discussion - we all have to stand up and speak up for ourselves especially women of color because not everyone has our backs #TheReal 💯
This is why as a woman of color I’m so happy I have a black OBGYN I had THE BEST experience with my doctor & she was always really attentive even while I was giving birth.
These are the conversations that having a panel made up of women of colour meant to me. Amazing and informative but incredibly sad segment. Thank you ladies, I learnt a lot
I work in a hospital and deal with ER patients. Sadly, i see those nurses who roll their eyes at patients when they are in pain. I personally just can’t be that type of person to just shrug off anybody who isn’t feeling well. I take it very serious. And if i do their exam and don’t see anything worth noting as a concern, i feel like I’m failing at detecting their problem. If you don’t have a heart, you shouldn’t be in the medical field PERIOD
I love, Love, LOVE my doctor at Mount Sinai hospital in Manhattan because he is the doctor every person needs on their side when it comes to medical issues!
This is actually the best topic that they’ve done in a while.
RestlessChild Tarot YES!!
Yes
I agree!!
Said the exact same thing! This feels like THE Real from season 1. And you could tell they were all passionate about what they were talking about too! They actually cared.
True, they should talk more about issues like these rather than all other stupid topics about sex 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Imagine carrying your baby full term then losing it...that poor woman. 😢
It's must be the most hurtfull horrible thing to happen 🤦🏻♀️😥 may god help every women🙏💫
heartbreaking
That's beyond heartbreaking
This happened to a friend of mine who is also black
thats just wrecks my heart
Pregnancy seems beautiful but more so extremely frightening. 41 weeks and a stillborn AFTER she went in TWICE! I’m livid and heartbroken 💔
rem stew I lost my son full term. It’s a scary reality NO one warned me of. Pregnancy was and is a beautiful thing - but also not to be taken lightly. ❤️😩
If you believe this story your really ridiculous also.
rem stew Right oh my god like seriously 😐😑🤦🏿♀️
Indigo James Quiet ok troll. Seriously no one needs your negativity ok. 😐😒😒😒🙄
@@SJames-tm2ei Bitch shut up!!!!!!!!
My first pregnancy birth was traumatic; I almost died. Fast forward 5yrs later I’m pregnant again and praying I don’t have any complications. #Prayerrequest
Sending positive energy and prayers that you have a wonderful, beautiful and healthy pregnancy and delivery.
💜💜💜 Just know that even though it was probably very scary the first time focus on how strong you were/are to make it thru that. Positive thoughts and prayers! Also maybe listen to positive music to keep your mind from going other places during it 💜💜💜
Sending prayers to you! 🙏
Praying for you
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼♥️♥️♥️♥️🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🌻🌻🌻🌻
They do this to Native American women on Montana too. Also, look into missing and exploited Indigenous women.
Yup im never taken seriously
Still today ?🤦🏻♀️😥😡 in what world are are we living in it's craaazy so sorry to hear that...
Native women are the most ignored and mistreated.
@@ndnaf3705 totally agree. Its terrible
Honestly I worked as a receptionist for three years in the state of TN a lot of people are being ignored bc doctors are lazy. They’re like lawyers the world has lots of them but very few good ones. Also if they know you for being loud they’ll sometimes even skip you and go to the next patient just to keep you waiting longer bc “you’re a difficult patient” a lot of this patients were white so we got a lot of lazy people also working not wanting to do the damn charting bc it takes them long so everything is “normal” and “take some Advil” and “water compressions” and “drink more water” and “steroids” is what they’ll sent you home with. Sad but true.
People will listen to a lawsuit before a medical crisis.
Summer Rose Right.
Talia Voider that ish is crazyyyyyyy
Mecia Gotcha Crazy.
Sad 😞
Ofc gotta protect my bank
Everyone says black women have an attitude, no one says why... half the time some can barley express their injustices ☹️
zakia thomas it’s so crazy. I feel like black women have every right to be. They’re the most disrespected and disregarded in America.
@@Samisha100 in the whole world,am black living in Germany and there is alot of racist here happening to me,
@@miraclenworah1473 I am so sorry to hear that, I hope you gain the opportunity to relocate and live your best God given life! Stay positive and stay strong.
@@miraclenworah1473 I'm so sorry your going through that .
This made me cry, especially after watching Tamera struggle to hold it together. My heart bleeds for these women and everyone affected by this. I can't believe bias training is even a thing. I am sickened.
She Tried so hard❤
I heard a long time ago, “everywhere you go in the USA is a business. Schools/Colleges, Hospitals, and your home all alike.”
Its true
Yes, as well as Middle East
USA is the best place in the world
@@peasant12345 where did that come from lmao.
It is
I am a Registered nurse and a black woman. I would not advise people to raise hell in the sense of yelling and screaming but I would tell people that they should advocate for themselves. If your nurse isn't listening to you ask to speak to the charge nurse, if that doesn't work ask for a nurse manager, if that doesn't work ask for a nurse supervisor. Don't hesitate to ask for your doctor to come speak to you. If you're not happy with the care you are receiving try to go somewhere else as long as it's safe to do that.
I agree!
Thank you for sharing this informative information.🙂
Yes. I’d definitely not recommend being loud in the ER unless you’re hurting
Yes, at our hospital security is called right away if anyone tries to raise hell doesnt matter the race.
Excellent and sound advice
That’s so sad I hope she wins her case
Me too even though money can never buy her baby back Like Amanda said they need to be held accountable.
This may sound jacked up but they may not have a case. If she told the hospital staff she was leaving they are suppose to have her sign a form starting she is leaving against medical advice. This might be a little tricky.
@@lindsaym6607 did you watch the whole video? she didnt leave because she wanted to, they told her to go home twice because everything checked out both times she went to the ER and they planned to induce her Monday but she ended up having her baby naturally on Sunday.... at her age they should've already been induced her because she was already high risk because of her age.
justin m- Sadly, I agree with you. She left the hospital having complained of chest pain, after a chest X-ray but before getting a diagnosis or treatment. She more than likely would have been discharged AMA “against medical advice” and would have had to signed a form stating as much- family won’t have a case. If she just left the hospital without telling anyone then the family most definitively won’t have a case.
@@BizzzyBee The Real got some parts of the story wrong. The ER ran tests and did an X-ray. They told her that it would be a 2-6 hour wait to see the dr. and get treatment. She left without being seen and discharged due to the long wait time.
The health care system needs a serious overhaul. The wait time should not be that long.
Even as a nursing STUDENT we are taught that chest painers are a high alert, you do not dismiss chest pain!
I feel for that woman . I can’t imagine losing my child .i went to the hospital when my water broke while using the bathroom only to be told to go home because it was my hips that popped. Went back hours later with cramps only to be told my water did break . My baby stayed in the nicu for days . He could have died from inhaling all the fluids. I know nw that I need to make my voice be heard
Nastashia WOW 😯 thank God your baby made it 🙏🏼
I am glad both you and your baby are safe🙏🏿🙏🏿
Oh my GOD happy for you that you are well with your baby too god bless you I wish you both a very long and happy life! Sending all my love😘❤💜🍀💫🙏
This happened to my sister in law and unfortunately her baby girl didn’t survive 💔 doctors can be absolutely cruel
@@RaneemOrk wow, is she okay mentally and physically? I'm so sorry for your family, and do you know if she wants anymore kids? If she does, good luck and god bless her🙏🏿
That story Tamara told is especially heart breaking because it was preventable on so many levels. Unbelievable
I was 18 weeks pregnant and had the most painful feeling in my abdomen. My husband rushed me to the ER, they basically told us to sit and wait. I’m hunched over in pain and had to wait 2 hrs crying from the pain. My husband was fuming mad and had to go and raise hell to get me seen. They finally took me in the back and pulled some blood and I went pale and fainted. That’s when the ER nurses took me seriously. I could have lost my baby due to their “take a number and wait” attitude.
Eileen Welter I hope you and your baby are now fine . 🙏🏽
Nastashia I had other complications after having her but 2.5 years later and we are great! Thank you
If you have pains and are pregnant, they should've seen you immediately
Ashley H oh trust me I know.
Did you go to a random er or the one for your insurance? My family never has to wait since they go directly to the one for their insurance
Omg i almost got emotional listening to Tamera. WOW those particular doctors are absolutely disgusting
Rocka10 🗣YES THEY ARE 🗣TRASH !!!!!!!!!!!!! 😐
Rocka10 And my heart goes out to her friend 😞 ok I mean imagine giving birth to a dead baby my god those doctors are monsters they are not humans at all. 💯😒😞
Sad thing is...a lawsuit isn’t gonna bring somebody back.
Ph0uad damn, you are literally proof that some people don’t need to exist lol.
@Ph0uad bet your mom is anti-vaxx and you dont support abortion
Sophie L. No. But it can bring you a hefty paycheque and get someone fired for their negligence 💯☺️
@Ph0uad SO WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE SEEING AS TO HOW YOU ARE ANTI- LIFE, OR ARE YOU JUST ANTI-LIFE FOR OTHERS? MUST HAVE BEEN NICE BEING BORN A PERSON AND NOT A BABY! IF EXISTENCE IS NOT A GOOD THING CHECK OUT AND LEAVE THE REST OF US TO THRIVE ON AND RECOGNISE BABIES AS PEOPLE: BYE!
Ph0uad nobody NEEDS to exist. It is a very bad thing if a baby dies because of the inadequacy of the healthcare professionals. That’s is very very bad! The baby didn’t have to die and that’s the issue. It’s not about how the world is a hard place and the baby didn’t miss much because it isn’t a fully grown human! If something bad happened when it didn’t have to then that’s the issue!
Its sad that so many people in the medical community perceive women to be over dramatic, so they don't take our concerns seriously. And as women we try not to show weakness or try not to be dramatic so we don't communicate our needs as strongly as we should. Both sides need help.
Agreed. It’s disheartening at all costs. 😢
Tasheri Not just black women. Native women are the most ignored in this damn country.
@@auntmelisa8689 and that's sad considering natives can be racist as hell towards blacks.
Because women are often over dramatic lol. They go to the doctor for everything.
@@auntmelisa8689 studies show that it happens to black women more educated or not rich or not. Look at Serena Williams she's the best athlete and have access to the best medical care and even her doctors did believe her they didn't listen to her. Had she not press the issue she could have died.
Im a black registered emergency department nurse coming up on my 10yr mark.First things first my heart goes out to this woman. Working in the ER is the most difficult unit to work in. You are under staffed, under paid, under appreciated and constantly abused verbally, emotionally as well as physically by patients and other staff. Not only do we have walk in’s but we are constantly getting patients coming in from ems. And sadly at times all our rooms are full and there’s no where to move patients. And we are recognized more for our few failures instead praised for our many accomplishments. So please don’t group all nurses together because most of us are trying to do our best with the small amount of resources we have. If you’ve never worked in a hospital please be mindful of your words because you don’t truly understand till you're caring for 5 patients solo, with a waiting room with 20 plus patients waiting to be seen and ambulances arriving with more folks to be seen.
Exactly, well said.
& don’t let them tell you “it’s anxiety” because that’s their first excuse!!!! Ugh!! So heartbreaking
Jay Simpson I deal with anxiety and I make sure they know what I’m feeling and they do what they need to do to rule out anything serious. But, unfortunately there are doctors and nurses who ignore symptoms and just brush things off and that’s unacceptable!
Omg yes this needs to be talked about more especially when they know you have a history of anxiety they are like “it’s just anxiety” and don’t check correctly for chest pain
That's what doctors repeatedly told my aunt for years and now she has stage 4 colon cancer. They also thought she was manifesting her anxiety as pain. >.
THIS!! This right here!
Omg the "it's anxiety" thing is the worse. I was in the hospital one time having complications. I had just been diagnosed with an autoimmune and I had gone through what I actually knew to be anxiety. This was definitely not it. They tried to give me pills for it while being hospitalized and I threw them away. After that experience, I just save up for a herbalist now. If I feel fine, I'll get a regular check up but if something is off, I go to my herbalist. He was able tell me that my lungs were very weak before my doctor did.
My sister was turned away when she went into labor. They said she was over exaggerating with her screaming because they "checked" her and said she wasn't even 2 centimeters dialated yet which I knew was a lie. Her due date was two days away so they shouldnt have been so dismissive. It took us 20 minutes to get home and she gave birth as soon as we got there. I Thank god everyday because she and my nephew had a 70% chance of DYING that day. Her placenta burst as soon as it came out. Its just said that this is really an ongoing problem when it comes to black woman.
Amen. God be the glory...
I am happy to read your family made it
That’s a miracle that they both survived! 💕
What did the doctors say after she gave birth? Did they even find out?
That's the worst part when doctors assume someone is exaggerating. If they feel pain then check up on them seriously because they don't feel what the patient feels
@@simplysheronda if god was involved stuff like this wouldn't happen
''If you're in the emergency, RAISE HELL''. I felt that on sooo many levels (coming from someone in the health sector).
Some people don't out of fear! I've seen strangers get kicked out for being "dangerous" while being emotional, scared, and sick!! I learned from that incident!!
@@NorryaParsa dont get violent, get loud!!! Loud enough to make them stop what they're doing and get you in a room at minimum so you dont alarm anybody else waiting. Once you're in a room they will see you much quicker because now you're on their time and they need that room you're in! The goal is to get you in and out! Be careful with that because you dont want them to rush you either make sure when you leave there you are in a better state then which you came or dont leave!
@@NorryaParsa
100% agree! My brother went to the hospital for stomach issues and when the doctors treated him as a joke, he went outside to calm down and get fresh air.
The hospital sent security to follow and watch his every move because he could be "dangerous"
When in reality the hospital was being racist.
Smh 🙄
My brother acted out in an ER a week ago...he said the doctor was being rough to his stepson. He was arrested and now has cps on his butt...so dont act out lol
I worked for a large hospital. They implemented bias and diversity which was mandatory. I thought great. Until I got to the auditorium the next day....the mandated the training only for the staff of color. There wasn't a white person anywhere except for the trainer. I looked around confused. At one point, when they asked for feedback/comments...i let them have it. I asked how can you as a white person who lives in a mostly white state going teach me about bias and diversity? From the time I was 5 and in school, I had to learn how to straddle two cultures. I went from speaking English at school to Spanish at home; from adjusting to school norms to my cultural norms and back again. Why would any person of color be mandated when we know what it is first hand. Why aren't any of my white co workers here? They are the ones who need it. This didn't go so well and I ended up being fired.
This episode really makes me confused as to why people don’t like Amanda. She really aims to teach people of colour how to navigate such a difficult world. She always bring some type of interesting knowledge and yet black people want to constantly complain that they don’t like someone that is standing up for them.
She is very outspoken and 9/10 she is the smartest in the room when it comes race because most people in Hollywood are used to white rules and behavior. It is a gift and a curse. Even people from HBCUs are trained to move like white people are watching.
That's why she has always been articulate in her own way she's really intelligent and knows we what's out here I've never been against her shes her own person
She has been mean and nasty to people and even dismissive of people with opinions that are different from her.
She has been really good on the show for now and seems to fit, but so far all the women have been in agreement on issues. I am waiting to see what haopens when someone doesn't agree with her.
She is honestly not horrible all over. She says good stuff, but she's been pretty negative and dismissive generally. One example is her insinuating that Jillian was being racist because of the lizzo comments. Loni too, but the reason why she gets more hate is because at least the other women are warm and get along well almost all of the time and seem more likeable
People don't like Amanda because her personality is real hit or miss.
I love that Amanda said " YOU know your body". I remember when I was in labour with my first daughter, I kept calling my midwife to let her know how my labour was progressing. She kept shrugging me off and saying I was not in active labour just yet. I think, I because she may have seem many women in labour "overreact". But I was listening to my body and I knew I was close to giving birth. She Finally showed up to my house and checked me and said I still have a long way to go .. and she left. Long story short, she never even made it to the birth. My baby was nearly delivered by my husband and sister. Paramedics rushed into my home just in time as my baby was coming out.
Wowww!! Shame on her smh
More discussions about serious and relevant topics like this, please!
These "doctors" take a hippocratic oath to care for every patient. Are they kidding me?
It's sad but we have to remember that sociopaths and psychopaths make their way into this field too. They are in it for the money and status. Everyone doesn't actually have empathy.
Marissa R. Empathy in my opinion is one of the most important characteristics to have. Empathy is divine.
they are such hippocrits
hypocritic oath
@@marissar.359 And sadists also. Their goal is to cause harm to as much people as possible. It gives them such pleasure to do so.
That’s why I wanna be a doctor. Specially an OB-GYN. I’ve heard too many horrible stories and I don’t want anyone, regardless of race, to have any complications with their health. I think there should also be more black doctors to help with these problems.
#NoMorePain
Christina Mensah I’m with you girl! I’m a black , female 2nd year med student and this story made me so angry. I’m excited to have the opportunity to be a doctor that people of all races and backgrounds can talk to openly and know that their problems will be taken seriously and never overlooked.
Go for it my Ghanaian sister ❤️
same. i'm latina though. i believe in you! ♥️ let's treat and heal our people!
You go girl. I pray that God blesses your efforts.
I pray for more grace for you, my fellow Ghanaian sister 🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭🇬🇭. With your motive, Christina, you'll pass out with flying colours 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
When my sister was 3, my mum was setting the table for dinner and my sister climbed on the table to get a glass. She knocked over the glass, fell, and crushed the glass with her palms. My parents took her to the ER where they loosely bandaged her hands (with the glass still in them) and told my parents to wait. 2 hours later and the nurses are yelling at my mom to “control her child” who is upset bc she has glass shards in her hands! Well my dad raised HELL and that is when they were finally seen! My dad says after he spoke up the entire tone changed. Before my dad spoke up, the hospital was insinuating abuse and my parents were just trying to “behave”. After my dad spoke up, they started calling my parents sir and ma’am! And they finally took care of my sister.
carmapuchiella
So sad that we need men to say something for people to take women seriously as if they are the only gender with any sense of body and mind
This is horrific. I'm so sorry
GSS Ty They see women as hysterical and I’m guessing they see little girls the same way and only respect males
Anybody else a young black woman scared to have a kid now ?
wwedxecw yep
@HIGH ENERGY Donkey.
HIGH ENERGY please stop commenting weirdo 😂
Unfortunately I worked in a small neighborhood hospital ER. And everyone knows chest pain gets priority. So everyone states "I'm having chest pain and shortness of breath ". It's hard at times to decipher who's really telling the truth. While we try to get ALL chest pain in right away it's hard when everyone has the same complaints and there are no more ER rooms available.
We do try to get EKGs and blood work started in triage as well as xray.
It's not due to bias. Not saying that there might not be any bias in some situations but there are other situations we have to look at as well.
Also when ppl coming in "raising hell" it is also staff abuse. I don't have the perfect answer. The area I worked EVERYONE used the ED for primary care and not got emergencies. I've had a patient "raising hell" over being pushed back because they had a hang nail and we took an asthmatic patient first. Or ppl coming in with a cold and raising hell cause we took someone who was shot. 🤷🏾♀️
I think healthcare over all needs to be reviewed and laws should be put in place for betterment of all people including hospital staff.
this is one of the best, most powerful segments I have seen on THE REAL . Thank you for this.
This is so heartbreaking and sad. It sickens me to think that after all this time racism still exists. No one should be turned away because of their skin color especially in the medical area!!!
This is so heart breaking to me.
I’m Mexican but hearing this story feels like if you are any other color than white you completely get treated differently.
I’m just saying cause I remember going into the ER and in complete pain. I had an ectopic pregnancy. They wanted to send me home and I was scared to go home. I was scared because a woman’s life ended in a neglectful hospital for sending her home and the family lost her when they didn’t want to take her off life support but the court ruled in favor of the hospital to pull the plug. She was on the news. I luckily had my mother who held her ground and if they wanted to send me home to give me a statement to guarantee my safety with this ectopic pregnancy. After all that I ended up going into surgery because they had no choice and I was already internally bleeding that could have resulted me in death.
I already am a mother to a daughter and if I had died she would have never known who her mother is.
This is why If I have a child it won't be in the U.S.
I'm Latino and I get treated with care at the Hospital, don't know which one you go to.
Why send you home? That is a life threatening emergency! I'm confused?
Shut tf up... I am white and they treat me the same way in the er.. I almost bleed out waiting for them to see me.. ended up going to a different hospital.. it's not color it's the workers at the hospitals.
Eren Jeager maybe it does depends on the hospital but it’s also known that women are still not treated seriously sometimes because we could be “over dramatic” of our concerns. I do understand that many Dr’s do actually care and some just want to over look something and send you home. So I completely understand and I try to look at both ends.
That’s right “YOU KNOW YOUR BODY”
Man i just started nursing school i hate that this is happening and i strive to be a great nurse who takes everyone seriously
Don't lose your empathy. A lot of nurses do because of high stress and bad nurse culture in some jobs.Listen to your instincts.Remember your patients are people not just a number.Wish you the best❤✌👏
Me too girl! I also work in a pediatric office. Caring for people is my PASSION. I can't imagine why someone would want to be a medical professional and not have a HEART😔
I'm actually taking OB at the moment, so I'm extremely sensitive towards pregnant women and neonates. Any little thing has me immediately at their bedside
Amanda is so well educated and woke! 😂♥️ I love her on this show, many of the things she advocates and speaks for are things we all should all know and bring more attention to!
This was a definitely a sign for me today.When you know something is wrong,dont let them tell you otherwise.
Another thing I wanna say is black women are taught if somethings wrong just keep on pushing... so if you do feel something is wrong... PLEASE DON’T WAIT til you’re “ comfortable enough to talk about it “ Buffie Purselle from Married to Medicine had a pronounced lump under her armpit and she was afraid of the unknown so she kept stalling to tell Simone... Ladies. If you want the truth as well as the right treatment , please pick good doctors and not just a black doctor cuz they mess you up too... as well as be open to communicating
What was her diagnosis
My sister wants me in the room with her and her husband.... She already knows that if she says she don’t feel good, I will be loud about it...
LivinglikeLloyd wish y’all the best
This happens way to much especially to pregnant women
Wow! The story Tamera told was sad! I cannot imagine how that mother felt.
God bless her soul, I feel for her family and I am someone whose had a terrible experience with a doctor in Cary N.C. I’ve never had to convince someone I was in pain and have them tell me to my face that I was lying and that I was basically there not to get help, but to get out of work, after the first visit. He was so rude and even yelled at me. I made the mistake of not bringing at least one of parents or boyfriend with me. I completely agree the ladies! Amanda, that was great advice. Ladies no matter what. Please try your best to to bring someone with you and keep all your documents. You are important ❤️
I'm from Cary. Which hospital was this?
Goddess Destiny Smith They don’t take women in general seriously, women are looked at as “hysterical” to these Male doctors
@@user-nq6um4bs5y sometimes there is no need to generalise. This is an ongoing problem with BLACK WOMEN and women of color since slavery. Doctors dismiss the pains of women of color.
Just an observation, Amanda is bringing more social awareness, I enjoy it.
Wow we really have to bring a baby sitter or a second mouth because I’m 2020 DOCTORS still treat us like the “other” . It’s so stupid.
This is why I’m having a midwife and a doula not going in no hospital or trusting any doctor
That’s taking a gamble too
dance4life1208 I did that, best thing ever.
@@mzstacystacks3168 if there are no major complications during the pregnancy I've heard nothing but awesome stories about Doulas and home births... the biggest risk is of something goes wrong during the delivery where mommy and baby need to be rushed to the hospital. If you have a good Doula that knows what they're doing they will have you at a hospital the first signs of anything alarming.
Thats dumb.
Blu Musix how
Let’s talk about the people who don’t have insurance , that’ needs to be spoken about as well!
MarkÁnthony Brisby yes!!!
Adrian Abella I’ll think for you since you can’t process that never everyone can afford it
Medicare. For. All. Period.
Adrian Abella says the person who had gaming pages saved to their page ..😂 the irony lol
@@triplea7536 What do you consider an extremely long wait time? As a person who lives with a chronic illness (renal disease/kidney failure) I'm no stranger to ER's, and depending on how busy they are, I've waited anywhere from 4hrs, to 12hrs. I know people without insurance, that have literally spent an entire day, (as in 24 hrs) in a crappy, overcrowded ER in a general hospital.
I have friends that live in Canada, who think 2 hrs is a long wait time, and for someone like me; that's considered getting lucky!
You can also ask for a patient advocate at the hospital. Do this especially if you feel you are not being heard or are being bullied/coerced into anything you do not feel comfortable with. Ask questions,what medication are you giving me? Are there other options? What are the risks? What will this test show? Bring a notebook and write everything down. You can also request a copy of everything done that day before you've been discharged. If anything is missing make sure they add it to your chart before you go. Also, don't sign those digital signatures. Ask for a printed copy and read everything first!
Threaten to sue. Because no matter if you drop the case if you can't afford it. You can make their medical mal practice insurance more than their Mortgage and student loans. So it may not be payment to you but they will still have to pay.
Example: You have a case and you choose too sue the higher the number you sue for they can settle it with you and their insurance will go up or you drop it but because the number was so high the hospital may let them go cause they are a risk and they insurance would go up.
“RAYS HAIL” I love Loni lol
She said "Raise Hell"...
R3R3ish Im aware, I was saying it phonetically lol
I think that the health care systems needs to be be treated less like a business, and more of a government agency where they just can’t afford to be understaffed.
If they need to hire a doctor or two more to be able to make sure that people are seen at an adequate amount of time, then so be it!
I’ve recently been to the hospital 2 in the last 3 months, and I didn’t experience it personally, but I saw many patients waiting hours! Because there wasn’t a doctor in to see those coming in.
The first time I came in, I waited 4 hours because someone had a cardiac arrest and that doctor left to take care of them. Great job for taking care of the Patient in critical danger, but bad on them for not having someone else in to keep the rest of the patients seen.
I understand having another doctor on hand ready is costly, but lives are valuable!
And hospitals get paid one way or another, so they need to stop worrying about saving money and focus on hiring the right staff!
And nurses be patient advocates! We took an oath as well. If your patient tells you they are not feeling good the least you could do is take there vitals and not just assume everything is okay! And communicate!
I am so here for this segment!!! More of this kind of content!! 👉🏽Also something I learned from Black women‼️To add to what Amanda said, if the doctor declines your request for medication or treatment, etc., tell them you want it on file that they declined and why! Sometimes they will change their mind or look into things more thoroughly.
Wow I am loving the addition of Amanda to this show. She is so intelligent, insightful and the topics are intellectually stimulating.
@4:40
I'm sorry! That's incorrect!! Don't do that!! Hospitals have security! You can and will get kicked out if you imply you are capable of harm!!
Agree! My brother went to the hospital for a stomach issue and the doctors started treating him quite rudely. He went outside to calm down and the hospital sent security to stand by him because he might be "dangerous"
That was the most racist hospital if I ever saw one.
I''m really glad the ladies seem to be discussing important issues like this. While it can be nice to escape all the drama with some light topics I always felt they should be using their platform more often to highlight serious issues like this as well so keep it up please : )
“If you in the emergency room, RAISE HELL” yaaasss lonniii
I literally went to the ER at 37.5 weeks pregnant and my husband told them that I was in labor. I was waiting in the car because I couldn't walk. They didn't even offer me a wheelchair. I walked in on my own. Because I wasn't screaming my head off in agony they told me to just fill out some paperwork and wait. The next 15-20 minutes felt like an eternity! When they got me back on the table and checked my cervix I was dilated 8.5 - 9 centimeters! I could have had my baby right there in the waiting room because I wasn't taken seriously. In my situation the lady with the unempathetic attitude behind the desk was Black. Unfortunately, sometimes Black women can be the worst to each other. Shame on this country for the way Black women are treated by outsiders and within our own community. We should always advocate for one another. SMH
Kai Ro medical professionals are just desensitized in general... trust me I was a student nurse and they don’t give two flips unless you bring in the big money.
That family does have a law suit on their hands. They can sue the hospital and come for those nurses and doctors license. There are protocols set in place world wide that chest pain should be treated the same where ever you go. Idk why they didn’t at least try MONA and obtain a 12 lead EKG. 🤦♀️
Was the lady discharged or did she leave on her own? That information was not made clear
@@ImperfectlyPerfect07 I think she left on her own because they wanted her to wait another 2-6 hrs for them to take her to a cot in the back.
Jessica my thoughts exactly.
They did.
The patient left on her own due to the long wait time to be seen by a doctor and get treatment.
They drew blood and sent it to the lab. She did not feel like waiting so she left and tried to go to a urgent care. She died on the way there
FINALLY having this conversation on The Real! Please please please KEEP having this conversation because this is a REAL issue.
Tamera’s story:
Me: 🥺😲😪
She was trying so hard not to cry.
Thank you. This show will save lives...
This subject is so hard and sad💔😥 and angering😖
The quiet patients are the ones you have to be more careful with in an ER, they tend be quiet because they feel so awful they dont cause a ruckus like some patients that usually dont have anything life threatening
Pam Deras omg 😳 so true !
Really great discussion...one of their strongest
Ever since Amanda joined I be watching the real with a dictionary on the coffee table!!!! I AM HERE for the English! Love you Amanda! You are a great addition to this lituation.
I honestly feel for women and black women first and foremost because the reality is when it comes to the your health and body... YOU know your body better than any doctor , nurse , CNA , caretaker & etc should... so if you don’t feel well... don’t push it under the rug... keep it up here in your head and verbally explain what’s going on , how long it’s been happening , & what kind of pains , aches , soreness whatever... because enable for the doctor to work with what’s going on you have to be precise !
This makes me want to cry. I could tell Tam was trying to hold it together in Part One while reading the news. I am also 25 + went to the ER 2 days before the new year because of on-going chest pain + discomfort. Last year I lost count how many times I've been to the ER + hospital appointments. I've had very frustrating days at the ER as well, knowing that I'm not taken seriously because I'm a Black (and Native) woman. I remember one time, in particular, a white female nurse came into my room + was automatically dismissive of my symptoms + acted as if she knew more about me than me. That day I had my mother with me because I had been to the ER so many times without answers + it's sad that we had to give this woman attitude to let her know that I was serious about my health. Fast forward to this last time I was in the ER, I finally found out what has been causing my chest pain, discomfort + occasional shortness of breath. I was treated the best I've ever been treated by ER doctors + nurses. I literally thought to myself, "did these folk just read an article on Black female fatalities caused by the carelessness of medical professionals?" I am thankful that I got + am getting the help that I need + so so sad that dear Tashonna didn't. side note: I love that Jeannie brought up doulas + the lack of quality perinatal care for Black women because that's exactly why I'm becoming a doula. also, Indigenous women are facing these same struggles. please keep having these conversations, ladies 🙏🏽🧡.
I had no idea this was an issue. My heart goes out to all victims of this racist negligence.
I am so glad I had a black nurse during my labor & delivery. She was sent from the heavens. She took care of me so well I felt like I knew her all my life. Hearing Tam's story made me tear up. Doctors sometimes makes mistakes, but there's a difference in a mistake & just failing to communicate with or respect your patient. Now a days when I go in to the doctor, I ensure that my doctors SIT DOWN with me. It is also important that we are open & honest with our doctors, no matter how embarrassing. I tell my doctors that I KNOW MY BODY. If they want to run XYZ test, I want to know the results and it be explained to me to the fullest.
My mom who is Mexican got turned away from the dr as well when she was pregnant with my brother. One week he just stopped moving in her stomach and she knew something was wrong. She called and they turned her away. Well October 25 she went in, all glammed up btw because she was suppose to go to a party that night, and demanded they look at her, & refused to leave till they did. Turns out her water was leaking, so my brother was being suffocated, and he pooped in the stomach. She got a C section that day and thankfully my brother was born a healthy. He just turned 17 about 3 months ago.
Yo I didn't know I would like Amanda so much! It seems they've gotten more organized with their discussions since she's been there. She helps everyone stay on topic and they dont just yell over each other anymore! I love it!
One of the best topics that have been presented. Sidenote: Loni’s hair is laidddd
I can say that it also depends on your physician as well. I am currently 35 weeks pregnant and I have been under the same physician for 10+ years. During my pregnancy, he has been so thorough and so concerned with my health that it is amazing. Any form of discomfort or ill feeling I have he is adamant about looking into it. I never feel like my symptoms are ignored or down played. He is SO passionate about his patients and it shows.
OMG 😱 That is heartbreaking, I could hear Tamera’s voice breaking. I hope she sues them for everything and win! I couldn’t imagine going through something like that, I’d probably be in prison. 😡
“You know your body so speak on your body” I love that ❤️
That's so sad. My daughter passed away in the womb 1 week before her due date. It had nothing to do with doctors being negligent though. My body was suffering from blood clots all on the inside. And the blood clots took over the placenta and prevented food or oxygen from getting to her, is what they told me. So she passed. Its tragic losing your child, so I can def feel your friend's pain to some extent. Wishing her well.
Did you have a little pain in your legs or a leg? Did your legs or feet swell? These are tell tell signs of blood clots, especially while pregnant.
Sorry for your loss sweetie, may your little Angel rest in Heaven!!!🙏
This felt like the old good days of the real when they spoke about real issues affecting real people not the celeb gossip circle they were trying to turn their intelligent minds to please girls continue the hard work this is what we love and this is why we watch you...kisses and hugs.
That is such an upsetting story. So upsetting. Lord help. We have got to do better. We deserve much better.
I'm glad they spoke about this topic. I am a RN and black women and know these stats. When I was pregnant with my twins I had extreme anxiety about my pregnancy, giving birth and recovery. I vetted my OBGYN thoroghly and when she retired in the middle of my pregnancy my heart was broken. I was given another doctor in the practice and when I felt like she wasn't a good fit I requestes another. I encourage women to read about pregnancy(from legit sources) and educate yourself. I was lucky enough to have a both a specialist and OBGYN doctor that took me seriously. If your doctor doesn't stand up for you, find ANOTHER or maybe even a nurse midwife. My doctor's where the ones ensuring I had what I needed while at the hospital. It is important to have a healthcare provider you have a report with. If someone else delivers you and you don't feel like you are being heard ask for your doctor or someone for there practice. Nurse isn't hearing you ask for the charge nurse or a different nurse. Most hospitals have patient advocates request one if you are having issues.
Could you imagine all that and not speaking the language..
As a person who is training to be in the medical field, I absolutely agree with what the ladies are saying! KNOW YOUR BODY! Only you can voice how you feel! And if you feel something, like Loni said, RAISE👏🏽 HELL👏🏽 (when necessary)
This was a very informative segment
It’s IMPORTANT to always make the medical professionals attending you aware of what you feel. Even if you think it’s minor, it can make a difference. Ask questions, never think you’re asking a stupid question, most patients going into a hospital or clinic don’t have medical knowledge, and even the ones that do, might not know certain things. Don’t feel embarrassed to say what is going on, and if they don’t pay attention to you when you’re in pain, yes, make noise and let them know you’re in pain. Go with a friend or family member because they can tell the medical professionals things you might have missed. If you don’t understand something, don’t be afraid to ask. Your health is important!
You out of all people in the world out of 7.5 billion people know your body well! Don’t let anybody tell you differently. EVER! Ask to be seen by another physician and if not an emergency change to another clinic people trust me. Doctors are like lawyers the world has a bunch but only a few good ones.
I am so GLAD that this was a topic. I know too many occasions where this has happened to my family and friends. It really is fustrating and it feels helpless cause you walk away with nothing knowing something is wrong but you can't do nothing but take the doctor's word and pay an expensive bill. Now I'm educated on something and God forbid this happens to a love one but just incase I'm aware of what I am suppose to do. Thank you for this conversation
This segment is so beautiful it shows how much these women care about us honestly I love them
I’m a Hispanic woman and just two weeks ago went into the ER for chest pain and asthma. I was told to wait. I told them I needed someone immediately, they took my vitals and had me wait for close to two hours. I had to drive myself to another hospital. To this day, I know I made it by the grace of God because there is no other explanation. The valet at the second hospital knew something was wrong. I went into the ER and saw a doctor within minutes. It’s ridiculous that this has to happen. I know if I would’ve waited at the first hospital, I would not be here to tell the story. Bringing someone with me may have helped me in this situation. Don’t let anyone, professional or not, tell you you’re “fine” when you clearly know yourself and know you are not. Thank you ladies for this awareness. It’s so disheartening that it has to be due to these biased situations. Prayers and love to all that have been impacted negatively.
I work in an ER and our wait time unfortunately gets up to 10 sometimes even 12 hours on a "okay" day. I really feel bad for people waiting but alot of it is miseducation about what's an "emergency" and can be a doctor's visit. Thankfully the hospital I work for is a pediatrics, cardiac and stroke center so when a patient walks in saying the golden words we take immediate action. I'm just a tech but if something doesn't look right I speak up no matter what.
Thank you, The Real. This was very informative! More content like this pls 🙌🏾
I love Amanda. she speaks the truth.
@Sudan Nutella what are you talking about. what do you know about habasha women. I am Ethiopian and we are confident in who we are, in our culture and so on.
Since you are from Sudan you have no idea what you're talking about us. so keep you lies to your self. Thanks.
@Sudan Nutella Thats your opinion it doesn't mean its true.!
As current nursing student this brings pain to my heart to hear there’ stories and know that there are 1000’s of more out there like this. I hope that when I start working I can help change other employees viewpoints and hospital policies when it comes to “unknown patient discrimination.”
As heartbreaking as this topic is this was a really great discussion - we all have to stand up and speak up for ourselves especially women of color because not everyone has our backs #TheReal 💯
This is why as a woman of color I’m so happy I have a black OBGYN
I had THE BEST experience with my doctor & she was always really attentive even while I was giving birth.
The story of Tamera's friend is so goddamn heartbreaking.
These are the conversations that having a panel made up of women of colour meant to me. Amazing and informative but incredibly sad segment. Thank you ladies, I learnt a lot
How about people who are doctor become doctors, to save a life. Not to pay a bill.
I almost died at the ER from a asthma attack, the nurse was beat up by my mom, I got some attention though, it’s sad!
I work in a hospital and deal with ER patients. Sadly, i see those nurses who roll their eyes at patients when they are in pain. I personally just can’t be that type of person to just shrug off anybody who isn’t feeling well. I take it very serious. And if i do their exam and don’t see anything worth noting as a concern, i feel like I’m failing at detecting their problem. If you don’t have a heart, you shouldn’t be in the medical field PERIOD
I love, Love, LOVE my doctor at Mount Sinai hospital in Manhattan because he is the doctor every person needs on their side when it comes to medical issues!