Sell the 125cc and buy a zs190cc engine it's a direct replacement 5 speed electric and kick start complete engine should get you in the 75-80 mph depending on gearing it will definitely be a lot more fun.👍👌✌️💯🛠️🥂
@@TimelessMotors perty good the 190cc will Cruz at 60mph in 4& 5th gear is like over drive it just drops the rpm down so it not so hard on the engine it will last longer at top speed and make it more high way safe. Some say if it's gear rig.ht it can get in the upper 90mph range not to bad for 28hp engine that a direct swap out and complete.👍👌✌️💯🥂🍺🏍️
Nice review. Thanks. I, like some other people, couldn't help but notice how much this bike looks like the classic S90 Honda from the 60's. That was my first motorcycle. My Dad bought it for me from a friend of his whose son was in the Vietnam War. Really brings back memories. Rode the heck out of that bike and had as much fun on it as any bike I ever owned. If this clone is half as good as the Honda it would likely still be a good bike to own.
Thank you for posting this video. Looks like a simple old school Honda, even sounds like one. I've been riding since 1970 - all kinds of machines; Harleys, Rockfords, Hondas, Royal Enfields, Triumphs, SSRs ! Have fun man, I dig it !
I got one a year ago and have had quite a different experience. Damaged in the crate before I even start putting it together. Holes that didn't line up so assembly was a nightmare. Finally got it together. Gas line got airlocked and wouldn't feed gas to the carb. Got the gas going and the coil burned out after a minute of running. They sent me a new coil but it was the wrong one. Finally got the right coil and got the bike running well enough to take a ride. Bike literally bounced down the road. Checked the wheels and found the hub on the rear wheel was not centered in the spokes. No help from the mfgr. on that one. Went to a cycle shop and paid $250 to get the wheel fixed. Took it out again and almost immediately got a flat tire. Got new inner tubes from WM. Front tire went flat just sitting in my driveway. After a year of ownership I have a total of 20 miles on the bike. I'm afraid to take it more than walking distance from my house for fear of the next disaster. Shall I go on? Buy one of these at your own considerable risk. BTW, I've had 6 different bikes in the past with no problems. Of course, those were Hondas & Yamahas.
The other issue is that these Chinese outfits are here today and gone tomorrow. Even if you got one to last, good luck with parts or service even 5 years down the road. If I were looking at something in this price range I would just go buy a Nighthawk 250 and be done with it.
Yeah I don't understand why people buy these Chinese bikes for 1000-4000 bucks instead of literally opening up the classifieds, FB marketplace, Craigslist, or any other used bike site and buying a used motorcycle from a Japanese manufacturer. I don't know how many great condition used Honda CB's I've bought over the years for under 2k, usually threw some tires and tubes(if tubed) on them, cleaned out their carbs, threw some new plugs in (not like 99% even needed anything, just because) and never once had one break down or have any issues whatsoever.... plus you're supporting your local economy instead of a Chinese one when doing so and keeping a classic/vintage out of the scrapyard.... and not having any issues and if you want a new bike and want to sell that one, you can lol.... not like one of these Chinese bikes that are worth $100 used if it's running still. It's not my money, but I know I'd rather have something used that's going to hold or increase in value and never give me an issue while I ride it.
its hard to want to buy a used bike in my area like 5000 to 7000 over what id feel comfortable paying for a 8-10 year old bike buying a non running bike is a risk that most people here know not to take theyre the engines are usually in need of a full rebuild or the gear boxes are grenaded thats why a lot of people consider chinese garbage bikes theyre usually cheaper than used japanese bikes and new but they fail to understand the chinese bikes usually are cheap because the materials are sub par the wiring harnesses use copper that isnt pure (creates electrical problems) the fasteners are made of a really soft iron and cant handle being torqued ibut your average consumer wont know any of this untill they buy and learn from experience
Looks a lot like the Honda CT75 I had back in the late 70s, was a early 70s bike. Had a ton of fun on it. Moved up to a xl100, then a XL125, XR175, CM400E twin, A honda CB750K, then a 1200 honda goldwing
Ive had one of these for a few months now. About 400 miles on it. And honestly, it's a great little bike!! Currently theyre not being sold (unless you check on marketplace) but i got mine for 1059 with 399 shipping. Once registration and all that im about 1700 into it. The company has been great with replacing parts as needed, and its been a blast to ride. Its a head turner for sure, several people have acknowledged how great it is that someone finally "Brought the S90 back"
I just bought one and it is on a truck. I am pretty sure Amazon charged me state sales tax. I am gonna be miffed if they charge me sales tax again when I go to register it! Any suggestions?
They charged me tax when I bought it, and I showed them that and they did a special write in when I registered it so I didn’t get nailed twice. What state are you in?
I haven't rode motorcycles in years. Thinking of getting one of these just so I can get back into the hobby and "relearn" motorcycles, from simple riding to tinkering/modifying/fixing. If I get one, I'm going to go for more of an old school vintage scrambler look.
Same here. Haven't ridden in decades and just looking at something affordable that isn't intimidating to relearn on. Also way too old to ride something Grom-ish or a sport bike.
Well l'm 67 and riding my 175cc Rusi ...happy as Larry so hats off to him..." You don't stop riding when you get old....you get old when you stop riding 😊.. go get your ride...peace..✌️
I'm 55 and just past my test today in Thailand because I wanted a retro style bike to play with. Have a look at Stallion model in Thailand. Cheap as peanuts but look so cool. I bought a SM250
This bike is a derivative of the JH70 from china, which is mostly/fully made up of cloned honda parts from the CL70/SS70. The drum brakes would be quite weak and need regular adjustment. There is probably no stainless steel sleeve in the wheel hubs so eventually you need to replace the wheels once they wear too far. There is a front disc brake upgrade that's a direct swap (don't know why they don't just sell it with this for a bit extra) which fits honda bikes like the CG125 and probably the old CTs. They are on aliexpress but probably available more locally for most people.
Back in 1969 I was a Junior in High School, and a Senior-class guy I grew up with, as well as a classmate of his, each bought a Honda Super90! Except for the black paint - theirs' were Honda Red - and lack of Honda stripes and logos, your bike is pretty much as I remember them, right down to the stamped sheet metal frames. Coolest machines that Junior had ever seen. Yep! I'm digging that frame. Almost makes me want to buy one just to hang it on the wall! What I'm not digging is that pair of drum brakes. I noticed in the video that the brakes are about the same diameter as the exhaust pipe tip on that green mini-SUV in the background! I bet'ca that one descent down a typical Kentucky Appalachian foothill around here and those brakes would be on fire! But there's no doubt that I would buy one of those over a step-thru scooter any day.
Mine came with the Xpro sticker instead of BOOM, my tank did not come pre-dented 😞. I had to replace the front wheel bearings as mine were seized and the wheel wouldn't turn. Once I did get the wheel to turn, I discovered that neither wheel is actually round so, it's like riding around with eggs for wheels. lol If you have feet, the heel-toe shifter is useless as you constantly step on the heel part. The rear brake lever is positioned such that you have to ride with your foot cocked out to the side to avoid riding your brake but, that's OK because your foot needs to be cocked that way to avoid pushing down on the kick starter which makes a horrible noise if the bike is running. I need to square up the front end because when the bike is going in a straight line, the handlebars are turned slightly. It's basically a kit bike with most of the pieces loosely thrown together to show you how it should look after you disassemble it and put it back together correctly. I would still buy it again though.
My husband owns the bike and says he notices it not being round but other then that and the drum brakes which be careful by the way! The drum brakes when they wear in become alot more sensitive which will come down to you driving and using brake and its almost like it locks us
@@alisalucas4579 I took my wheels off to true them and the bike rides much better now. That back wheel is a bear to put back on though. The spacer between the bearings on mine was not held snugly so, I had to re-seat my bearings until it held. The front is no big deal because you can stick a bolt in the opposite side to line it up when re-installing the wheel but, the rear wheel can only be accessed from the left side unless you remove the muffler. I noticed the front brake had a lot of dust in it too considering I only have about 100 miles on the bike. I may buy some C90 wheels from Thailand. I'd feel safer riding on them.
@@alisalucas4579 You have to be able to spin the wheel while it's on a shaft. I have a truing stand for it but, you can use a piece of pipe or solid rod held in a vice too. Spin the wheel and see if it wobbles from side to side or up and down. If it does, you can loosen or tighten the spokes which will pull on the rim and you can get the wheel to run smoothly.
I had one too; last year. Upgraded the tires and sprocket and got really close to 50 (am 200 lbs btw). Needs one more gear tho. The rear shocks are stiffer than the forks. Rode for one season and sold the next. Most def tighten and the bolts, maybe loctite. Good towny Moto. Almost forgot…had to true the wheels too. Oh, removed the silencer in the muffler.
I went to an estate sale with a friend and he got a 1982 Suzuki six-speed (dirty) for $50 with less than 2000 original miles on it. $48 for carb/gas tank cleaning and re-jetting, $16 worth of premium platinum-iridium spark plugs, $21 for oil and filter, $261 for two new tires (H-rated Conti's) mounted and balanced, $15-17 for registration and tag and five days from when he got it, until he was riding it! As expected, it 1/10th's of a mile in under 8 seconds @ 86 MPH and riding to work, he's getting 57-62 MPG. I forgot, it cost nearly $5 in quarters at the car wash to clean it up. I had Maguire's cleaner and Mother's hard carnuba wax and Semichrome and some vinyl seat cleaner/treatment (HINT: NEVER, EVER use Armor-All on cycle seats!!! It makes 'em slicker than snot!).
I am from the UK and had a Honda SS 50 when I was 16 (SS stood for Sixteener Special I believe) this thing looks so much like it it's pretty much a copy. You can't go wrong for the price 👍
I recommend getting a used bike like a Honda CB 250. I got one for $600 with only 8k miles on it. The bike is a tank! One of the toughest most hard core bikes you could ever purchase. I could put old used fish fry oil in the SON beach and it will run. Nuff said...
That is wise advice. The CB250 was made till 2008 and you can still find some with 10k or less miles. They'll be stronger than this even with 50k miles and abuse. This is ideal for a teen though if an experienced motorcyclist puts it together and straightens out all the defects. It is somewhat evocative of the S90 of the 60s. However it is nearly a dead ringer for the CL70 and CL100 of 1970....probably produces the same HP at Chinese 125cc as those did. I started on a CL70 at 14. Retro Honda town bike knockoff. If that's what you want, this is the place to get it. Closest Honda offers is the Cub and Trail 125 retros.
I understand the appeal of this. It looks like a fun little toy It also looks like a pia once things start to break, wear out, need to be replaced I agree with nonyabiz. I think getting something from a company you've actually heard of before, with a good reputation, makes A LOT more sense
@@tauncfester3022 yes it has. The CB250 was called the Nighthawk in the US, but CB250 on the official paperwork. I bought the last year, 2008 in black that year. After 60000 miles still starts every day and looks almost new.
I've had several chinese boxed delivered. Only had a brake fluid line come loose during shipping and had runoff. Used the metal box frame to make a workbench, bought a locked up (engine and transmission) cl175 and worked on it outside. Used a plastic sheet to cover it up at night behind the apt. building. Only had an air garage. :)) Rough going up 1 flight stairs for tools needed :(
Hey just a thought. Try using non ethanol gas if possible. I buy mine at a bait and tackle gas station. 93 octane. And as you know, no worries about letting it sit up. Love the way it looks! I have a x pro 125 pit bike. Love the bike but would prefer yours over mine. Now I'm jealous. Haha! Enjoy and be safe!
If you do use 10% ethanol (100% gasoline is not always easy to find) then drain the carb float bowl if you don't run the engine for 2 weeks. This will prevent the main jet from clogging. Ask me how I know. (Honda generator, Honda CB750)
love that pre-dent on the tank/ this is a little different than my Sanyang 125 I had in Taiwan 30 years ago/ that had a tube frame, and engine angle was higher/ more traditional/ but still a 4 speed/ clutch moto/ I will just assume this has the international transmission, (circular, clicking down in 4th sends you to neutral/ while up takes you back to third),,, but maybe that is in the video soon as well/ will find out.
Last summer, I bought a 50 cc Chinese bike that looks like a modern version of a Honda Cub 50. The dealer swapped the engine with a 110 cc. It runs like a charm. I used it the entire summer overseas.
Hey, that's a Honda 125.. I had one just like it... I can not remember the letters in front of the 125 but I think it was something like CA-125.. . I think mine was a 1969 or something. how fast is it? The Honda would actually get up to 70 mph... On a good day. Lol. Mine had chrome fenders, was fire engine red, a longer seat, a chrome rack on the back, a tool box, and a gray plastic cover over the battery mine was 6vdc. It also had a round Honda badge. And the rims were aluminum with galvanized spokes, it had an after market windscreen with a leather skirt around the headlight between the windshield and head light housing, and a chrome head light bezel, and a tiny tail light. It also had a jewel on the head light housing, that lit up when the bright light was on and a kick start. What colors did you have a choice of? Did you have issues with the title? Does it have the reserve on the gas petcock? You could push start the Honda pretty easily. Pop it in 2nd and it starts up in about ten feet sometimes a lot quicker.
@martinryan5069 lol yeah mine died from a fatal field mouse attack oon the wire harness. I wish I had mine back.. they are ridiculous high priced around here.
Don't you hate that mirror engineering? Its not a reflection on your comprehension, its the difference in culture. Two lefts can make a left and a right if mirror engineering is used. Like footpegs are for old dirtbikes. Pretty clever.
I like the style of this.. I've got the original 125cc from my Boom Vader that was upgraded to a 141cc with a z40 cam and ported head.... I could certainly see that engine in this little frame. The Vader now a Has a 212cc 4v engine.
Looks and sounds almost identical to a late 60's Honda S90!! How cool is that? No frills (except electric start), just like it should be. I would buy one in a minute if I wasn't all crippled up.😛
What if I were to try and drive this from Springfield Missouri to Spokane Washington in early January? With zero experience in fixing motorcycles or riding long distance
This vid was suggested after I viewed an Allen Millyard vid... and he has made a 2 cylinder SS180cc out of two of these sized original Honda engines....
Grandmas hot rod wheelchair. Racing paddlewheel light boats, rice field specialized farm equipment, harvesters as well as planters. Rototillers. Rich kid kiddy cars. It's all good.And the reliability is self driven so that should improve.
Wait a minute....you have 400 miles on your new bike and you need parts for it? Crash damage, stuff falling off, or premature failure? Doesn't sound all that great to me.
Here in South east Asia you can buy for same 1000$ Yamaha YTX 125 and it’s a power horse, it rides with a cabin to your left and it’s called trickle in the Philippines and I see them pull up to 6-8 people no problem still doing reasonable city speeds.
That zhongshen zs190 should fit and you can even upgrade then with a cylinder of 230cc.. i think it is the xy190.. they have them in many variations, automatic or manual clutch and with or without electric start. Perhaps change the front fork to a dicc break
I've had several chinese scoots out of the box. Had a disc brake line loosen during shipping and had brake fluid runoff. Other than that, no problems. I used the metal frame from the box, made a workbench, bought a locked up (engine and tranny) 71 honda cl175. Covered up with plastic sheet when done working on it behind the apt. building...only had an air garage:))) One flight of steps to retrieve tools....yuck.
You get what you pay for. I bought a 25 year old BMW, for much more. I spent $ for repairs and maintenance, almost as much as your bike. Since May, I have had 1000's of trouble-free miles. Long day cruises, high country, freeways at 80 mph all day. You'll get what you pay for in a motorcycle.
I'm in the Philippines.. purchased a Rusi Macho tc 175cc brand spanking new for in your money $845.56 ..from the dealership with one year free breakdown cover in-house...plus enough spares to fill a battleship ..runs perfectly so l'm happy ..find a bargain and make your life happy 😊...peace ✌️
Not SMOG legal in CA......can't have one..I guess I'll cold start my 12 MPG F250 4X4 and drive to the hardware store...guess I'm saving a LOT of pollution THAT way...
There is a guy on UA-cam who owns one in California and has it plated and rides all over. Not sure how. Depends on county I guess. My ranch in inyo county ca has no smog.
Wow that's a lubrication issue or a fitting polishing of mating parts didn't happen. Mechanical engineering oopsie is unlikely but it did happen in the very early bikes and cars. Try disassembling it and check for rough parts or uneven polishing of mating parts.
I've always liked drum brakes for their looks but appreciate disks for the stopping power and weight reduction. This bike crys out for disk brakes and new rims. It's got the looks that a lot of people want. And the price point allows a lot of customization options.
Sell the 125cc and buy a zs190cc engine it's a direct replacement 5 speed electric and kick start complete engine should get you in the 75-80 mph depending on gearing it will definitely be a lot more fun.👍👌✌️💯🛠️🥂
Awesome comment! Thank you!
Awesome. I top out about 60mph now
@@TimelessMotors perty good the 190cc will Cruz at 60mph in 4& 5th gear is like over drive it just drops the rpm down so it not so hard on the engine it will last longer at top speed and make it more high way safe. Some say if it's gear rig.ht it can get in the upper 90mph range not to bad for 28hp engine that a direct swap out and complete.👍👌✌️💯🥂🍺🏍️
@@josephsaucedo8691 link to the engine?
Damn, do I want to go that fast on this thing?
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I think you have to change the oil on these immediately. The factory oil used during assembly is not meant to be used for normal road use
Nice review. Thanks. I, like some other people, couldn't help but notice how much this bike looks like the classic S90 Honda from the 60's. That was my first motorcycle. My Dad bought it for me from a friend of his whose son was in the Vietnam War. Really brings back memories. Rode the heck out of that bike and had as much fun on it as any bike I ever owned. If this clone is half as good as the Honda it would likely still be a good bike to own.
It's basically a Honda clone! They got the old tooling for the frames it seems.
I bet if one could find a S90 tank.
A modern Honda S90. Nice!
❤thank you for you comment on the bike! I I'm gonna purchase one now
Thank you for posting this video. Looks like a simple old school Honda, even sounds like one.
I've been riding since 1970 - all kinds of machines;
Harleys, Rockfords, Hondas, Royal Enfields, Triumphs, SSRs !
Have fun man, I dig it !
I got one a year ago and have had quite a different experience. Damaged in the crate before I even start putting it together. Holes that didn't line up so assembly was a nightmare. Finally got it together. Gas line got airlocked and wouldn't feed gas to the carb. Got the gas going and the coil burned out after a minute of running. They sent me a new coil but it was the wrong one. Finally got the right coil and got the bike running well enough to take a ride. Bike literally bounced down the road. Checked the wheels and found the hub on the rear wheel was not centered in the spokes. No help from the mfgr. on that one. Went to a cycle shop and paid $250 to get the wheel fixed. Took it out again and almost immediately got a flat tire. Got new inner tubes from WM. Front tire went flat just sitting in my driveway. After a year of ownership I have a total of 20 miles on the bike. I'm afraid to take it more than walking distance from my house for fear of the next disaster. Shall I go on? Buy one of these at your own considerable risk. BTW, I've had 6 different bikes in the past with no problems. Of course, those were Hondas & Yamahas.
The other issue is that these Chinese outfits are here today and gone tomorrow. Even if you got one to last, good luck with parts or service even 5 years down the road. If I were looking at something in this price range I would just go buy a Nighthawk 250 and be done with it.
Yeah I don't understand why people buy these Chinese bikes for 1000-4000 bucks instead of literally opening up the classifieds, FB marketplace, Craigslist, or any other used bike site and buying a used motorcycle from a Japanese manufacturer.
I don't know how many great condition used Honda CB's I've bought over the years for under 2k, usually threw some tires and tubes(if tubed) on them, cleaned out their carbs, threw some new plugs in (not like 99% even needed anything, just because) and never once had one break down or have any issues whatsoever.... plus you're supporting your local economy instead of a Chinese one when doing so and keeping a classic/vintage out of the scrapyard.... and not having any issues and if you want a new bike and want to sell that one, you can lol.... not like one of these Chinese bikes that are worth $100 used if it's running still.
It's not my money, but I know I'd rather have something used that's going to hold or increase in value and never give me an issue while I ride it.
But otherwise, it’s great Lol
its hard to want to buy a used bike in my area like 5000 to 7000 over what id feel comfortable paying for
a 8-10 year old bike buying a non running bike is a risk that most people here know not to take theyre the engines are usually in need of a full rebuild or the gear boxes are grenaded thats why a lot of people consider chinese garbage bikes theyre usually cheaper than used japanese bikes and new
but they fail to understand the chinese bikes usually are cheap because the materials are sub par
the wiring harnesses use copper that isnt pure (creates electrical problems) the fasteners are made of a really soft iron and cant handle being torqued ibut your average consumer wont know any of this untill they buy and learn from experience
Because some people don't want An ugly used bike with 21,000 miles Rusted@@johnnygeorgopoulos4072
Looks a lot like the Honda CT75 I had back in the late 70s, was a early 70s bike. Had a ton of fun on it. Moved up to a xl100, then a XL125, XR175, CM400E twin, A honda CB750K, then a 1200 honda goldwing
Ive had one of these for a few months now. About 400 miles on it. And honestly, it's a great little bike!! Currently theyre not being sold (unless you check on marketplace) but i got mine for 1059 with 399 shipping. Once registration and all that im about 1700 into it. The company has been great with replacing parts as needed, and its been a blast to ride. Its a head turner for sure, several people have acknowledged how great it is that someone finally "Brought the S90 back"
I just bought one and it is on a truck. I am pretty sure Amazon charged me state sales tax. I am gonna be miffed if they charge me sales tax again when I go to register it! Any suggestions?
They charged me tax when I bought it, and I showed them that and they did a special write in when I registered it so I didn’t get nailed twice. What state are you in?
@@matthewsterner2880, I am in Texas.
I'll hope for the best! :-)
Amazon collected 10% California state sales tax (LA) so I am gonna be paying again to Texas. :-|
I bought mine from a powersports dealer
I would change all the fluids before starting or riding it. Stock oil is like fish oil.
I haven't rode motorcycles in years. Thinking of getting one of these just so I can get back into the hobby and "relearn" motorcycles, from simple riding to tinkering/modifying/fixing. If I get one, I'm going to go for more of an old school vintage scrambler look.
Same here.
Haven't ridden in decades and just looking at something affordable that isn't intimidating to relearn on.
Also way too old to ride something Grom-ish or a sport bike.
I actually got thos for my wife to learn on but I've been enjoying tinkering with it
Well l'm 67 and riding my 175cc Rusi ...happy as Larry so hats off to him..." You don't stop riding when you get old....you get old when you stop riding 😊.. go get your ride...peace..✌️
I'm 55 and just past my test today in Thailand because I wanted a retro style bike to play with. Have a look at Stallion model in Thailand. Cheap as peanuts but look so cool. I bought a SM250
This bike is a derivative of the JH70 from china, which is mostly/fully made up of cloned honda parts from the CL70/SS70. The drum brakes would be quite weak and need regular adjustment. There is probably no stainless steel sleeve in the wheel hubs so eventually you need to replace the wheels once they wear too far.
There is a front disc brake upgrade that's a direct swap (don't know why they don't just sell it with this for a bit extra) which fits honda bikes like the CG125 and probably the old CTs. They are on aliexpress but probably available more locally for most people.
Back in 1969 I was a Junior in High School, and a Senior-class guy I grew up with, as well as a classmate of his, each bought a Honda Super90! Except for the black paint - theirs' were Honda Red - and lack of Honda stripes and logos, your bike is pretty much as I remember them, right down to the stamped sheet metal frames. Coolest machines that Junior had ever seen. Yep! I'm digging that frame. Almost makes me want to buy one just to hang it on the wall!
What I'm not digging is that pair of drum brakes. I noticed in the video that the brakes are about the same diameter as the exhaust pipe tip on that green mini-SUV in the background! I bet'ca that one descent down a typical Kentucky Appalachian foothill around here and those brakes would be on fire!
But there's no doubt that I would buy one of those over a step-thru scooter any day.
Drum brakes are perfectly adequate for a sub-200 lb. machine that only goes 45 mph. And they don't freeze up like discs do.
I have 100 miles on mine now and I love it. Several factory quality issues I cover in my review but I would buy it again.
Mine came with the Xpro sticker instead of BOOM, my tank did not come pre-dented 😞. I had to replace the front wheel bearings as mine were seized and the wheel wouldn't turn. Once I did get the wheel to turn, I discovered that neither wheel is actually round so, it's like riding around with eggs for wheels. lol
If you have feet, the heel-toe shifter is useless as you constantly step on the heel part. The rear brake lever is positioned such that you have to ride with your foot cocked out to the side to avoid riding your brake but, that's OK because your foot needs to be cocked that way to avoid pushing down on the kick starter which makes a horrible noise if the bike is running.
I need to square up the front end because when the bike is going in a straight line, the handlebars are turned slightly.
It's basically a kit bike with most of the pieces loosely thrown together to show you how it should look after you disassemble it and put it back together correctly.
I would still buy it again though.
My husband owns the bike and says he notices it not being round but other then that and the drum brakes which be careful by the way! The drum brakes when they wear in become alot more sensitive which will come down to you driving and using brake and its almost like it locks us
@@alisalucas4579 I took my wheels off to true them and the bike rides much better now.
That back wheel is a bear to put back on though. The spacer between the bearings on mine was not held snugly so, I had to re-seat my bearings until it held. The front is no big deal because you can stick a bolt in the opposite side to line it up when re-installing the wheel but, the rear wheel can only be accessed from the left side unless you remove the muffler.
I noticed the front brake had a lot of dust in it too considering I only have about 100 miles on the bike.
I may buy some C90 wheels from Thailand. I'd feel safer riding on them.
@@davecummings3335 thanks going to show this to him so you take off the back wheel and how do you tell it's straight ?
@@alisalucas4579 You have to be able to spin the wheel while it's on a shaft. I have a truing stand for it but, you can use a piece of pipe or solid rod held in a vice too. Spin the wheel and see if it wobbles from side to side or up and down. If it does, you can loosen or tighten the spokes which will pull on the rim and you can get the wheel to run smoothly.
you can adjust the shifter pedal
I had one too; last year. Upgraded the tires and sprocket and got really close to 50 (am 200 lbs btw). Needs one more gear tho. The rear shocks are stiffer than the forks. Rode for one season and sold the next. Most def tighten and the bolts, maybe loctite. Good towny Moto. Almost forgot…had to true the wheels too. Oh, removed the silencer in the muffler.
Heck yes
Love it ! Retro look and a great price.just wish we had the weather here in the UK.. I'm 64 now and this is how I remember bikes looking😊
You should paint that scene on gas tank at 3:50 or 5:00 or 6:24 blue sky with the palm tree limbs
Got to love your attitude.
Especially about the dent. Lol.
I mean, if it were a Honda or something, it would be bad.
I went to an estate sale with a friend and he got a 1982 Suzuki six-speed (dirty) for $50 with less than 2000 original miles on it. $48 for carb/gas tank cleaning and re-jetting, $16 worth of premium platinum-iridium spark plugs, $21 for oil and filter, $261 for two new tires (H-rated Conti's) mounted and balanced, $15-17 for registration and tag and five days from when he got it, until he was riding it! As expected, it 1/10th's of a mile in under 8 seconds @ 86 MPH and riding to work, he's getting 57-62 MPG. I forgot, it cost nearly $5 in quarters at the car wash to clean it up. I had Maguire's cleaner and Mother's hard carnuba wax and Semichrome and some vinyl seat cleaner/treatment (HINT: NEVER, EVER use Armor-All on cycle seats!!! It makes 'em slicker than snot!).
I am from the UK and had a Honda SS 50 when I was 16 (SS stood for Sixteener Special I believe) this thing looks so much like it it's pretty much a copy. You can't go wrong for the price 👍
It's super sports
Always check these Chinese bikes for tight valves, simple fix, but very common issues
They ship those with vegetable oil in the engine you want to change that before you start it
Um no. It's real oil
I recommend getting a used bike like a Honda CB 250. I got one for $600 with only 8k miles on it. The bike is a tank! One of the toughest most hard core bikes you could ever purchase. I could put old used fish fry oil in the SON beach and it will run. Nuff said...
That is wise advice. The CB250 was made till 2008 and you can still find some with 10k or less miles. They'll be stronger than this even with 50k miles and abuse.
This is ideal for a teen though if an experienced motorcyclist puts it together and straightens out all the defects. It is somewhat evocative of the S90 of the 60s. However it is nearly a dead ringer for the CL70 and CL100 of 1970....probably produces the same HP at Chinese 125cc as those did. I started on a CL70 at 14.
Retro Honda town bike knockoff. If that's what you want, this is the place to get it. Closest Honda offers is the Cub and Trail 125 retros.
I understand the appeal of this. It looks like a fun little toy
It also looks like a pia once things start to break, wear out, need to be replaced
I agree with nonyabiz. I think getting something from a company you've actually heard of before, with a good reputation, makes A LOT more sense
Agreed. A proven used bike with tons of parts and service options beats a brand new mystery crate from China.
Honda CB 250? Hasn't been made as a US sold bike since the 1970's
@@tauncfester3022 yes it has. The CB250 was called the Nighthawk in the US, but CB250 on the official paperwork. I bought the last year, 2008 in black that year.
After 60000 miles still starts every day and looks almost new.
The drive bys were funny AF. Gotta have one. Reminds me of the old mopeds. Always wanted one .
Super fun!
I've had several chinese boxed delivered. Only had a brake fluid line come loose during shipping and had runoff. Used the metal box frame to make a workbench, bought a locked up (engine and transmission) cl175 and worked on it outside. Used a plastic sheet to cover it up at night behind the apt. building. Only had an air garage. :)) Rough going up 1 flight stairs for tools needed :(
Yeah. Wow, I loved the Honda S90 back in the 60s. This looks and rides a lot like it. Great bike . Great video.
I’ve seen many an Afghan family of 5 getting from point A to B on a bike that size!
Hey just a thought. Try using non ethanol gas if possible. I buy mine at a bait and tackle gas station. 93 octane. And as you know, no worries about letting it sit up. Love the way it looks! I have a x pro 125 pit bike. Love the bike but would prefer yours over mine. Now I'm jealous. Haha! Enjoy and be safe!
Definitely!!
If you do use 10% ethanol (100% gasoline is not always easy to find) then drain the carb float bowl if you don't run the engine for 2 weeks. This will prevent the main jet from clogging. Ask me how I know. (Honda generator, Honda CB750)
I use rec fuel and it does a lot better
This is one of the only motorcycles with the same tires and rims front and rear. Drum brakes. The idle is beautiful. Front rear long suspension.
love that pre-dent on the tank/ this is a little different than my Sanyang 125 I had in Taiwan 30 years ago/ that had a tube frame, and engine angle was higher/ more traditional/ but still a 4 speed/ clutch moto/ I will just assume this has the international transmission, (circular, clicking down in 4th sends you to neutral/ while up takes you back to third),,, but maybe that is in the video soon as well/ will find out.
Love the looks, almost exactly like a suzuki k50 moped from the 70ties..
Last summer, I bought a 50 cc Chinese bike that looks like a modern version of a Honda Cub 50. The dealer swapped the engine with a 110 cc. It runs like a charm. I used it the entire summer overseas.
I have 1800 miles on mine. They work but you have to to a lot of maintenance, if you ok with that then its a decent bike. 90mpg out of mine
Cool looking bike. A lot of the cheap Chinese bikes have been getting better reviews over the years. For a grand looks fun af
Hey, that's a Honda 125.. I had one just like it... I can not remember the letters in front of the 125 but I think it was something like CA-125.. . I think mine was a 1969 or something. how fast is it? The Honda would actually get up to 70 mph... On a good day. Lol. Mine had chrome fenders, was fire engine red, a longer seat, a chrome rack on the back, a tool box, and a gray plastic cover over the battery mine was 6vdc. It also had a round Honda badge. And the rims were aluminum with galvanized spokes, it had an after market windscreen with a leather skirt around the headlight between the windshield and head light housing, and a chrome head light bezel, and a tiny tail light. It also had a jewel on the head light housing, that lit up when the bright light was on and a kick start.
What colors did you have a choice of? Did you have issues with the title? Does it have the reserve on the gas petcock? You could push start the Honda pretty easily. Pop it in 2nd and it starts up in about ten feet sometimes a lot quicker.
Ok I looked up mine and it was a 1966 S65.. I think.
It was a Honda cg 125 bulletproof I couldn't kill mine off road or on excellent little machine
@martinryan5069 lol yeah mine died from a fatal field mouse attack oon the wire harness. I wish I had mine back.. they are ridiculous high priced around here.
I found it on Amazon very easily. Good review. I like it.
Cool, thanks!
They sent me two left mirrors. What I realized is that the mirrors rotate 360 degrees. You can still use them without any problems
Haha that's what I did
Don't you hate that mirror engineering? Its not a reflection on your comprehension, its the difference in culture. Two lefts can make a left and a right if mirror engineering is used. Like footpegs are for old dirtbikes. Pretty clever.
I like the style of this.. I've got the original 125cc from my Boom Vader that was upgraded to a 141cc with a z40 cam and ported head.... I could certainly see that engine in this little frame.
The Vader now a
Has a 212cc 4v engine.
I own a Honda cd70/cl70 1979 , looks like it my grandfather got it in a crate from Japan , still running strong after 40+ years!
Looks like a cross between a SS, AP and FS1E. The pressed steel frame brings back memories and add some pedals, I could be back in the 70s.
Thread Lock is your friend with any mechanical Chinese product. My 2 cents.
Looks fun! Reminds me of early 60s stamped steel Honda bikes.
Exactly!
Looks and sounds almost identical to a late 60's Honda S90!! How cool is that? No frills (except electric start), just like it should be. I would buy one in a minute if I wasn't all crippled up.😛
What if I were to try and drive this from Springfield Missouri to Spokane Washington in early January? With zero experience in fixing motorcycles or riding long distance
It would be the stuff of legends
@TimelessMotors maybe not a good idea since if I took too long I'd he AWOL
looks and sounds like my super 90 from the 60s !
That's why I loved it. How did you find this video brother?
This vid was suggested after I viewed an Allen Millyard vid...
and he has made a 2 cylinder SS180cc out of two of these sized original Honda engines....
In China that engine and others like it (a lot of manufacturers make that engine in China) are put on or in almost anything that moves.
Grandmas hot rod wheelchair. Racing paddlewheel light boats, rice field specialized farm equipment, harvesters as well as planters. Rototillers. Rich kid kiddy cars.
It's all good.And the reliability is self driven so that should improve.
The pre-dented, antique look is what sold me
😆
I like the way dent is positioned to the most obvious place on the bike. Hahaha.
What a beauty. And the sound that little engine makes.
I love it
Hey nice! I’ve seen them put the whole family on these things🙌🏻😁
Definitely! In other countries these are a staple!
' tank comes pre- dented '
Chinese think of everything
It's interesting, like a cheapa55 Honda Trail, but not $1000 interesting.
At $600 it would be a winner.
Please pleae please do a 1 year review. Even if you show the pile of parts it turned into.... especially if it is a pile of parts.
I second this request!
I'll do a video update soon! It's been sitting at my ranch untouched in the elements and it flooded out there too. Should make for a good video.
@@TimelessMotors you mean it ain't ur daily?!
Looks like a great bike to hang on the back of the motor home when going on vacation.
Wait a minute....you have 400 miles on your new bike and you need parts for it? Crash damage, stuff falling off, or premature failure? Doesn't sound all that great to me.
Use the crate frame to make a side car.
Tank comes pre dented. 🤣🤣🤣
for 1000 brand new tho
Kinda like my super 90 honda. And i drove it till i ran the wheels off. And the dealer gave the bums rush hi hi odn-1
You can get a ton of performance parts for that engine!
Post links!
I want an update on this one
This guy is easily impressed.
Shorts, sandals and no helmet: he’s not a real motorcyclist.
I’m betting you’re not a “real” mom, either. Gtfo
I'd slap some Triumph tank decals on it and laugh....
Here in South east Asia you can buy for same 1000$ Yamaha YTX 125 and it’s a power horse, it rides with a cabin to your left and it’s called trickle in the Philippines and I see them pull up to 6-8 people no problem still doing reasonable city speeds.
All that and the tank even comes pre-dented lol awesome👍🏻👍🏻
That's a great looking bike. I just wish these makers would give us at least a 300 or something.
Just the way the fairings look and the way the engine hangs below the frame, is very reminiscent of 60s honda cb100 bikes.
When your so poor that a bike like that is your dream bike. At least I know how to do the mechanic part
Big or small a dream is a dream!
@@TimelessMotors your very true, also nice video, you got a new subscriber, greeting from a Brazilian travelling through Uruguai in a bycicle :)
@CarlosEduardo-lm7fk you make it here the bike is yours brother!
That zhongshen zs190 should fit and you can even upgrade then with a cylinder of 230cc.. i think it is the xy190.. they have them in many variations, automatic or manual clutch and with or without electric start. Perhaps change the front fork to a dicc break
Now go for a two thousand mile ride.
I did ride it over a mountain if that counts
Can't get these shipped here to Commiefornia ( CA. )
Very reminicent of the old Suzuki GP 100 from the late 70's.
You're right - that bike has vintage Honda vibes all over it! I hope these internet bikes get a few folks out on two wheels.
More like a Puch or MZ moped from where I'm sitting. Hardly a bad thing though.
I've had several chinese scoots out of the box. Had a disc brake line loosen during shipping and had brake fluid runoff. Other than that, no problems. I used the metal frame from the box, made a workbench, bought a locked up (engine and tranny) 71 honda cl175. Covered up with plastic sheet when done working on it behind the apt. building...only had an air garage:))) One flight of steps to retrieve tools....yuck.
Maybe other manufacturers will realize that there’s a demand for classic bikes and respond in kind.
At which point the price will go out the roof.
Terry
@@ForestToFarm Probably!
Add MV Augusta stickers to the tank for increased speed!
I'll have too! How did you find this video. Its finally getting views after a year online!
Looks like it's missing some frame. 😅
Most Hondas had that triangle between the rear wheel and the down frame under the seat filled in with a tool set holder and side covers...
Love your Jeep Comanche in the back ground a classic next to bike
Thanks I am known as the Comanche man
Did u at least change the oil before riding it?
lol nope
You get what you pay for. I bought a 25 year old BMW, for much more. I spent $ for repairs and maintenance, almost as much as your bike. Since May, I have had 1000's of trouble-free miles. Long day cruises, high country, freeways at 80 mph all day.
You'll get what you pay for in a motorcycle.
i have to admit, thats a pretty cool bike for a cheap chinese brand they dont often look that cool. Thanks!
You bet!
Well, it looks like the early Honda SS 50, right? Nice video. Best wishes from Germnay.
I'm in the Philippines.. purchased a Rusi Macho tc 175cc brand spanking new for in your money $845.56 ..from the dealership with one year free breakdown cover in-house...plus enough spares to fill a battleship ..runs perfectly so l'm happy ..find a bargain and make your life happy 😊...peace ✌️
How many MORE times are you going to hit that cardboard box?
You will be wrenching on that more than you will be riding it. I’ve heard horror stories especially boom bd 250
It's not called "Boom" for no reason... ;-)
That’s the “classic” $35 eBay tank I used on a couple of 250 cafe racers a couple of years ago.
I wondered if this wasn't a jewel, thank you for the review
You're welcome
I love that the gas comes pre dented
I get it totally; it's like my little BSA single 😀 At that price, you can even buy a second one for spares.
Not SMOG legal in CA......can't have one..I guess I'll cold start my 12 MPG F250 4X4 and drive to the hardware store...guess I'm saving a LOT of pollution THAT way...
There is a guy on UA-cam who owns one in California and has it plated and rides all over. Not sure how. Depends on county I guess. My ranch in inyo county ca has no smog.
Cant wait for more vids. Subscribed
It's a Honda SS 50 frame from the 1970s with a 125 version of the 4/5 speed motor
Only me..again!
Make sure you disassemble and grease bearing,spindles etc.
Thanks for sharing this video of X25 125cc! 🤠
Nice Scion!
Thanks!
Im glad youre so happy with your purchase, bud 😂.
drum brake on the front ???? wtf
Lmfao right
The one I ordered should be here by Friday. $1059.00 plus $399.00 shipping.
Fuck yes
That’s a long way from $1000 like this guys says
I did see the chinese honda super cub clone 125cc allready for some $450 u.s. dollar ex shipping costs
Watch the brake calipers on these they seiize up I ride in UK so have to clean them
Wow that's a lubrication issue or a fitting polishing of mating parts didn't happen. Mechanical engineering oopsie is unlikely but it did happen in the very early bikes and cars.
Try disassembling it and check for rough parts or uneven polishing of mating parts.
It's beautiful! Dang it's slick looking.
I've always liked drum brakes for their looks but appreciate disks for the stopping power and weight reduction. This bike crys out for disk brakes and new rims. It's got the looks that a lot of people want. And the price point allows a lot of customization options.
"Tank even comes pre dented" LMAO!
Does it come with a title
Yup