Meguiar’s HYBRID PAINT COATING Deep Dive How-To
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- PART 1 (of 2). This video covers an in-depth product DEEP DIVE for the all-new for 2021 Meguiar’s Hybrid Paint Coating, along with a very detailed HOW-TO tutorial so that ANYONE (DIY or PRO!) can make sure to get the best possible performance from this product without issues.
CHAPTERS
02:38 How-To: Inspect + DECON
03:20 Do I have to polish?
7:42 What is HPC REALLY?
13:10 How LONG does it last?
14:59 Is This just Fast Finish?
15:55 How was 1+ Years determined?
17:55 Are high spots an issue?
22:00 Does it have UV protection?
24:11 Does it work on Glass/Plastic?
25:05 Does it work on Vinyl? Matte?
27:27 How to use M122
32:11 How-to Apply HPC
35:32 #1 PRO TIP to Apply
36:00 2-Towel Method
43:46 How many cars can I do?
45:05 When can I wash it?
ABOUT ME: I am NOT getting compensated in any way for this video, nor was it sponsored in any way. This was my own independent video based on my personal experience developing, testing and applying this product as a former Meguiar’s Product Manager. The views expressed in this video are of my own. I have had this applied to vehicles for over a year - come learn what I learned!
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Would this be safe to put on plastic trim/ headlights/windshields?
@@mattlester7799 it will not bond well yo glass, but in my experience it works pretty well on trim. I’ll be doing a video about it at some point
What about headlights? Won’t stain them?
@@mattlester7799 Totally safe.
@@MarkusKleis thanks for your reply’s, I just picked this up today, what do you think is the everyday duration of it? Car parked outside vs garaged, c2v3 claims 8 months but only get about 2 months outside vehicle probably hard to say considering it’s not been put to long but I’m sure it’s been tested before release
You’re a wonderful speaker. Very clear, concise, honest, educated, and easy to follow. Can’t wait for more videos!
Thank you very much! That means a lot.
i saw this video in a detailing group on Facebook and thought "holy shit it's the guy who showed Obsessed Garage around Meguiar's HQ!" so glad to see you making your own content because i literally couldn't get enough of hearing you speak in Matt's videos. quickest subscribe ever lol
Ah man, that means a lot. Thank you. I hope I am able to continue to deliver some quality educational content for you to digest :)
The same way I found out about him.
Sad to hear you’re no longer with Meguiars, but best of luck to whatever you’re doing next!
It makes me sad, too! I wish I could be two places at once, because I never wanted to leave - I just knew I needed to grow professionally and personally and the new challenge was what I needed.
Hello Markus, I am absolutely pumped to try this product, if it bests my favorite hybrid ceramic spray wax it may be my new personal coating. Btw I first saw you on Obsessed Garage, and gotta say I am extremely excited you are starting your own channel. I can't wait for it to blow up! You are a fantastic presenter that covers the little things without putting people to sleep. Keep it up, good sir!
Wow, thank you Andrew - very kind words! I hope to continually improve and bring some unique content to the detailing world. Thanks for the support!
This is fantastic content, and you are truly showing your subject matter expertise. Great work on a complete deep dive, which appears to be a world-first for this product, no?
Yes sir, and thank you
Can't wait to try this out, it might be a go to for a cheaper coating option for customers
I'm new to coatings. How much would you charge for a service like this?
Cost would be determined by the condition of the paint. As an example; wash, clay, wash, iron remover, wash, compound needed areas and polish entire, then the prep spray. On my f150 took me around 8 hours, with no hurrying. The coating took 25 minutes. Second coat was less than that. Now add in trim and rims. I would charge you have to charge you $1000. But I would never pay that as I as well as you should enjoy the process and be proud of the final product!
Late to this video,but i was lucky enough to find a kit for 19.99 so i purchased 2 right away.Started to look up info and found this channel.
Great to hear from the guy who helped develop the product.Thank you!😎👍
Ugh, hearing your not with Megs is a shot to the gut...
But, I'm thankful for what you provided through that venue, and excited to see what comes ahead!
Thank you, Markus. Great tutoral!
Thanks Dan - that means a lot.
Looking forward to the first wash and beading shots! This coating looks amazing and almost too good to be true.
Thanks for the deep dive and step by step procedure!
Thanks - I think you will love it :)
Not going to lie, this video and channel is on par with Ammo NYC. Very informative and great visual demonstration for the DIY detailer.
Wow, that means a lot. Thank you. Larry puts out incredible content, so I appreciate being in the same mention!
My thoughts exactly. Excellent video and information. Can't wait to get my hands on some of this stuff.
Well done Markus! See you next week!
Thanks Steve! Hope all is well my friend.
I just took you from 999 subs, to the 1k, Markus. Good luck to you, sir. Thanks for this thorough video
Woohoo! You rock, thank you! Now I just need to get a couple thousand hours viewed and I can start to pay for all of the equipment haha
@@MarkusKleis Woohoo is a word (phrase?) I use myself, so more props to you!! Keep putting this content and I'm sure you will get there.
@@bbdetailing9123 Thank you very much. I plan to do both longer/more involved stuff like this, as well as some shorter videos (that I will pack as much into as I can!)
Done with my fine clay towel (no marring) and surface prep and ready to apply the coating after lunch. Can't wait to get this done. I also did an iron removal but I saw no purple so I don't think it was necessary.
Did everything except the wheels. Paint, plastic trim; textured and gloss. Car is really slick now. That's what you want! I only did one coat because this was already 2 days of labor and I was super thorough. Too tired to go over it again.
Next is the Gyeon Quick View for the glass.
Also, I sprayed the can upside down then took a towel and scrubbed the nozzle with the surface prep when I was done. Will that be enough to keep it from plugging up? I'd like to apply the other half of the can next year. Thanks.
Wow, where have I been that I didn't come across this channel earlier???? Anyhow, great information, truly appreciate it, can't wait for more insights into using these products!!
Thank you very much for the kind words! I’ll be dropping a fun new video later this weekend - let me know what you think!
-MK
Great video Markus. Looking forward to seeing that first wash :)
Coming soon!
Great video, looking forward to following your channel!
Thanks Justin! I appreciate your support!
I applied this exactly one year ago and only hand washed afterwards. I can testify that the water still beads after one year.
Hi Marcus,
I Recently learned about this product and your channel from Chelsea A2D, then watched Pan, and Apex and decided to purchase it. It was a joy to apply and remove and the results are amazing. The paint feels super smooth and has a nice gloss, I also applied it to all of the black plastic trim. Because I have a 1 car garage with limited room to go around the car I had to apply it outside on my driveway (Temp High 60's to low 70's partial shade) I know not the recommended method, but I did park the vehicle overnight in the Garage to protect it from the massive Pollen bloom we are going through over here on the East Coast so it can cure properly. Looking forward to viewing more of your content.
Glad the install went well! I wouldn't expect any issues based on what you described, you should be golden!
-MK
Great video , Markus!!!
Thank you very much!
So glad I found your channel, excellent material
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Hey can you make a video about m27
I sure can, I will put that on my list to create - thanks for the suggestion!
I’ll let you know how it stands up to Canadian winters. Ordered it from autogeek and I’ve got it on the way from myusaddress.
Awesome - please do! I know we did testing in Minnesota during the winter, so it will cool to see how it fares up there!
Tomorrow is the day of application!
Thanks for the vid. The results look great. I ordered it and was wondering if you applied it to the headlights? Wasn’t sure how it would do on plastic.
Hey Matt! Thanks. Yes, I go over virtually every surface - plastic and trim included. It beads like crazy on all of them. The only thing it will not properly bond to is glass, but frankly, no ceramic coating will without a unique bonding agent.
-MK
Great video Markus!
How does it do in sunlight.. asking for a friend
Hey Ry! This should definitely be on the friendlier side of things as far as performing coatings outside as a mobile detailer, for example. I would still recommend trying to at least limit it to indirect sun, like being under a canopy, for example. If it is winter, you could likely do this even in direct sun without issues. The amount of time you would wait before leveling/removing would be closer to 30-60 seconds.
In any case, if the paint is so hot it burns your hand - that is too hot for sure. Slightly warm should be fine.
Hello Markus.
I'm not used to leave a com' on YT but i was following you since i saw you, speaking about Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, on OG channel.
I have to say you were by far the best teacher about this line of products and i will watch your new content on your own channel every time.
Your knowledge is a very good thing in the detailing industry.
Can i just ask you if this paint coating can be applied outside ? I don't have a garage so i'm stuck with Sio2 water based product but i would like to put this one on my car on summer.
Greetings from belgium.
Oh man, thank you very much! These comments make my day. I will do my best to continue to educate at the highest level possible!
As for applying outside, yes, you can. My advice is do not apply in true direct sun, or if the surface is actually hot to the touch. If you are outside but in indirect sun, that should be fine. Just be careful about dust and be gentle when wiping.
It would be a good idea to wait and do the M122 wipe on each panel right before you coat it - that way you could remove any possible dust or pollen.
Hope this helps!
-Markus
Good job!
Thank you!
I love MOL, I was on there pretty much everyday 10 years ago LOL. Good video MK
Those were the good ole days!
@@MarkusKleis Heck ya they were brother
Amazing video
Thank you!
What if you didn’t notice that greasy film until 4 days after the application? Will the film be removed on the first wash?
Yes, it will come off in the first wash. My recommendation would be to use a clean microfiber towel and just water and immediately try to gently remove any excess you come across before the first wash. Do not aggressively rub it and cause swirls, just gently wipe the area clean.
Then wash at the end of the first week and you should be good to go. Let me know if you have any issues and I will try to help troubleshoot it for you.
-MK
Thank you for the info! The majority of my customers can't afford the High end Ceramic Coatings. This is more consumer friendly Coating & I don't have to charge a whole lot of money for the high end especially I live in a area that alot of people can't afford the $5,000 ceramic coating. Again thank you! I use alot of Meguiars products
HYBRID CERAMIC WAX vs Hybrid paint coating which is the best of those 2 products in terms of durability and gloss!very good content keep it up.
Do you happen to know what kind of Mohs hardness we can relate the coating to? By the way I did my first bird bomb removal today and it came off **way** easier with the coating.
Can is use Meguiars Hybrid Paint Coating for wrapped car?
Yes, you can. I would only caution that it is hit or miss on matte wraps or surfaces, but should be safe for most satin wraps. The key is applying to the applicator not the wrap, and then massage it thoroughly to get even application.
If for some reason you do see uneven patches on any matte or satin surfaces, apply more product to the applicator and re-work that area immediately and then immediately remove the residue without waiting.
But for any normal gloss wraps or PPF, definitely works awesome!
-MK
Markus, great content... keep going with your youtube channel..I watched these in reverse order so I saw the hydrophobics,,looks great...I'm not a durability snob, I'm not keeping a coating on for 3 plus years anyway. Need to polish that marring away to sleep at night. Im much more interested in slickness, gloss, ease of use, price, then durability... How is the gloss enhancement compared to other Megs products? I would be interested in your professional opinion... Also, I might have missed it in the video but did you apply to the wheels? Im sure it doesn't last quite as long but I will typically coat my wheels / barrels as well
Would love to try this on my personal vehicles. Where can I get in Canada?
I heard that it is going to come to Canada, but I do not think it is officially for sale there yet. I think it should be within a few months.
Subscribed. Didn't know you had a channel Markus. Sad to see you not part of Meguiars but hope the future is bright for you. This product seems like an interesting product. I might think of offering it as an "entry" line coating. I didn't enjoy using Cquartz lite. It felt like stuck on syrup to remove and that was using 2x2 sections wiping off immediately after application. Crystal Serum light, Gyeon Mohs and even Cquartz U.K 3.0 was MUCH easier to remove in comparison(ironic, to say the least since these products have far better durability compared to CQ lite).
This may be irrelevant but how does surface prep smell? Does it have some scent or is it just a strong alcohol smell? Is there enough lubrication so that you dont marr during this process?
I hadn't touched this channel in about 10 years as I really wasn't able to when I had certain jobs. But I am back and will be cranking out a video per week from here on out! And yes, I was sad to go as well - truly was an amazing place with awesome people and I loved being able to create products there but I needed to challenge myself with something new.
As for the product, I do think this makes a lot of sense as an entry-level offering for sure. Definitely easy wipe-off and slick right out of the box. I have to keep telling the clients not to rub their hands on the car lol.
As for M122, we intentionally did not add fragrance as fragrances are oils and that didn't make sense given that we wanted this to remove that from the surface. That said, it has a mild chemical smell - not super strong, and not predominantly alcohol to my nose. This is a mixture of a few things, it is not simply IPA - this behaves very diferently than IPA in that it does add a lot of lubrication for the wipe-off. We specifically wanted to provide more marring protection compared to other offerings out there, including IPA.
M122 is also safer in terms of not staining sensitive plastics or hot paint/plastics (like when you polish it and hit it right away). It's also really awesome for removal of compound and polish residue that is dried on or sticking to the paint.
Can you apply a product like bead maker after 24 hours as a sacrificial layer great video very informative
Such an underrated channel!!! Im about to coat my Mercedes this week with this product. Do you have any advice not given on your video..i live in Florida not getting it wet for a week pretty much won't happen. Thanks in advance bro!!!
Hi there Gators fan :)
If you can give it a full 24 hours of no rain, you should be fine. My advice would be to just avoid chemicals for 5-7 days. If you do get splash-up of gunk from the road, I would gently take a damp (water only) microfiber towel and gently remove it as soon as possible. Just be gentle and you should be fine.
Thanks again for the kind words!
-MK
@@MarkusKleis Thank you bro! Your knowledge and advice are priceless!! As always GO GATORS!! Lol
I have the same garage door opener! LOL. When that lock mechanism fails, don't buy a new one. Open it and you'll see where it failed. Just need zip ties to repair it.
Anyway, I live in Vegas. Yesterday, it was 117* ambient. Is there a MAX temp to apply? I will be in a garage, of course, but wanted your input on this. Thanks!
Hah, good to know - thanks for the tip. I know I answered you on FB about the heat, but for others, there isn't a max per se, but in temps above the high 80s you will need less cure time. Over 100 you probably only need to wait around 30 seconds, especially if you have a lot of airflow with fans and such. I would just spread the product a little longer, wait less time when done applying than usual, then remove quickly. also make sure to immediately apply the second coat if you are doing 2 coats.
Wowww so much information, great job.
However I had the thought of reusing the microfiber cloths provided in the kit.
Some thoughts that come to mind:
-Cutting up the cloths into its folded squares, using one set (cloth #1) for the initial buff and then the second set (cloth #2) for a final/levelling buff. My reasoning for cutting them up, so as to limit the time a cloth has been contaminated with the coating to be exposed to air/oxygen. Once a cloth feels to be used up, then dunking it into a very warm bucket of strong solution APC or laundry liquid (microfiber safe). What are people thoughts and answers, including you Marcus?
Hi Ricardo,
Thank you very much! As for the towels, the coatings I have worked with do not cure fast enough that you would need to cut the towels in my opinion. I think folding into eighths should suffice. It typically takes over an hour to cure to the point that it might make a towel or applicator a scratch risk.
As for tossing towels into a bucket with a mixture to keep them from clogging/curing, I know a lot of folks do that with success. I have not honestly spent a bunch of time testing to find the right chemical specifically for HPC, so you might have to test a few and report back. I will do the same if I find a good solution (pardon the pun, hah!).
-MK
The numbers are telling me Kabbalah
Very interesting to hear that the health risks in some ceramic products affected Meguiar's decision. Wonder if this will become an issue in the future for some other companies?
I think it will eventually - it comes down to how much risk companies are willing to take. For smaller companies with fewer assets, it's less of a concern as they aren't the usual targets of lawsuits. People always go after the big guys with deep pockets first.
Good video！！！！
Thank you very much!
Also, this is a nice change from everyone doing chemical resistance tests, for the most part that seems a bit overrated. I can't remember the last time I accidentally washed entire car with acidic wheel cleaner.
Thank you - I really hope that I can find a way to add value to detailers and DIYers who want to better understand the products they are using beyond how they perform in some sort of chemicals death matches. :)
Markus, if I notice weakening hydrophobics on certain parts of the car, could I simply reapply HPC to that area without needing to do a light polish? I do use a ceramic detail spray occasionally as a drying aid too.
Hi ea0529,
The first thing I would try is a wash with an iron remover in that area and see if that helps. Secondly, if you have an acid-based water spot remover, try wiping the area with that as well. Then thoroughly wash/rinse. *Sometimes* coatings can become "clogged" with minerals or fallout and one or both of those processes can help clean and uncover the coating.
If neither works, then simply wipe the area with M122 and re-apply to the full panels in question. It will bond where the coating is severely weakened or missing, and will wipe right off areas that are still strong.
-MK
@@MarkusKleis I’ve got iron remover readily available at home, so I’ll try. Thanks, Markus.
Excellent video. Looking to do my new Dodge 1500 Crew Cab Olive Green.
Awesome - let me know if you have any questions!
Efrain, how did it turn out? I just purchased the same truck and I’m curious about these products.
I’m trying to increase the gloss , could after applying the coating could I use a topper several hours after?
Hi Ace,
I wouldn’t add any toppers for at least 24 hours - if not a week. You risk mixing the products and reducing the durability of the coating.
Also, IMO you won’t really increase the gloss anyway. If you want maximum gloss I suggest putting extra effort into the prep before the coating (namely the deep cleaning, compounding and polishing) as the coatings and toppers do very little to effect gloss (in fact many reduce it) compared to a properly polished surface.
Most of the toppers and spray products aimed at “increasing gloss” do so by filling imperfections in the paint with oils, silicone, etc. But if you properly prep then there shouldn’t be anything to fill.
Make sense?
-MK
The you recomend for my own car Meguiar's G210300 Hybrid Paint Coating after one year??? Of this video
Hi Adan, not sure I understand. Do you mean what do you do after having it on your car for 1 year? If so, evaluate how it is holding up with a wash. If you seem the beading going away slightly, use Hybrid Ceramic Wax or Detailer to boost it. Or if it is really starting to fade hard, then perform a chemical decontamination with an iron remover (I suggest D1801 for the cleaners) and you can also use an acid-based water spot remover to remove any minerals that may be covering the coating.
Evaluate again. If you still feel it is weak, then simply repeat the same process you used the first time and add a fresh coat.
If you have bad swirls you want to fix, then you would need to compound and/or polish, too.
-MK
Hey Markus,
Thanks for the how-to. I used the coating today on a brand new Mazda and it was so easy. I was wondering if the coating is compatible with Megs Xpress spray wax?
Hi Jeff,
Glad I could help! So one of the downsides to HPC is the fact that it has such high contact angles nearly every product out there will actually LOWER the performance if you top HPC with them. This is especially true for the first 6 months or so when HPC is still fresh and strong.
The good news is that there really is no need or benefit to topping it during that time. Anything, and I mean anything you top it with will literally fall off the first time you wash it.
But if let's say you wash it and want something to wipe it down at the end to remove minor water residue etc, then I would personally use either M799 or Hybrid Ceramic Detailer as they are the closest to HPC (still lower).
If you use D156 it will not hurt anything permanently, but it will reduce the hydrophobics performance a little bit until you wash it. Frankly, you may not even notice it so feel free to try it and see what you think. It's getting pretty nit-picky at that point...
-MK
I have a 21 Tesla model 3, how would you use this on this with the glass roof and black satin trim? My car has ppf in the front end. I was just wondering if it would work ok on the roof and rear glass or should I use another product? Also can it be used on my wheels? Thanks great video, very informative.
Hi John! Congrats on the new Tesla, should be a fun car! I use HPC over trim, paint, PPF and vinyl without issue, but as you noted on glass it is not able to form the direct bond in the same way it can on the other surfaces without a primer. As of now, Meguiar's does not offer one that works for that application. I would get a dedicated glass coating for that.
As for the wheels, I got a solid 18-24 months on my wheels with HPC. The strong chemical resistance properties seemed to make it a great fit for wheels. I also found I could usually just use car wash soap and gentle microfiber "brushes" or mitts to clean the wheels instead of harsh chemicals. I also used D1801 (Meguiar's pro iron remover and wheel cleaner), as well as the alkaline wheel and tire cleaner and they didn't seem to harm it (at least not in the first year).
Hope this helps!
-MK
@@MarkusKleis Thank you, maybe I will just put the ceramic detailer on them and maintain them that way. Great info, thanks for the quick reply. It’s on sale right now.
Do you recommend sticking to the microfiber applicator rather than a microsuade with a membrane insert that helps prevent the coating from ending up sinking into the applicator? Found a crazy deal on the suade type which prompted the question.
Hey Jason,
We did quite a bit of testing with various style applicators when developing this and actually found the experience much more enjoyable with the supplied applicator than with micro-suede. It just seemed to spread better.
Also, because of the thin nature of the product when being delivered via aerosol, we didn't find that it was soaking into the applicator nearly as much as a traditional liquid coating, so it wasn't a big issue.
-MK
Can i use ANY brand sio2 detailer/drying aid after washing or does it have to be the 799? I just find i get way better drying results with a aid. Thanks.
Hey Hemi2247,
It’s unlikely another brand will harm the coating- but the thing to consider is that many products out there labeled as ceramic or containing sio2 use a different type of chemistry that results in a lower contact angle (inferior beading) and you may notice a slight dip in performance as a result. Will it be the end of the world? No. So just use what you like 👍
-MK
@@MarkusKleis thanks for the quick reply. As a dedicated drying aid and not a booster, is it more economical to use the consumer ceramic quick wax or the ceramic quick detailer instead of the 799?
What are your thoughts on bugs and/or general road grime during the 1 weeks curing time? Leave it until the wash or…?
If you get anything beyond dust on it during the initial cure, it is better to get it off than leave it. I would suggest using a microfiber and water only. Try to use reverse osmosis to soften anything (ie get it wet and let it sit and soften before wiping). For the same reason you want to avoid introducing a bunch of foreign chemicals before it fully sets up, you also want to avoid having things like bird droppings or bug guts sit and mix in as well. Bugs in particular can sometimes really wreak havoc.
I've watched both your videos on this product. I'm hoping to find a product that would offer longevity that's also safe for kids (and adults).
I've four kids who sometimes touch the car before putting fingers in their mouth. Through your experience, extensive tests and reading of Safety Data Sheets, could you please let me know what's are some products that you'd use if you were me?
Would silicone-based products like Meguair's Hybrid Paint Coating be a good middle ground product if I'd like to avoid the more dangerous ones?
Around the 9 min mark, you mention that Meguair's said the R&D lab cannot use some commonly used chemicals. That is truly reassuring to hear, but what PPE would you recommend just to be safe?
Thank you for taking time to share.
Hey oldporkchops,
Sorry for the delay - last week was SEMA week and I was BUSY. As for your concerns, what I have learned is that generally speaking, the larger the company, the more careful their legal department is since they are a bigger target for lawsuits.
Since Meguiar's is owned by 3M, it makes them a big target - so they go beyond what the law states today and actually try to predict future restrictions years in advance. This makes many of their products uniquely safe.
This is of course not to say smaller brands can't make safe products, or that they don't make awesome products - but if you are strongly prioritizing safety, I would personally avoid small brands as they are more likely to lack the resources or needs to be as safe on the formulation front.
As for HPC, if anything, just wear gloves. There are no PFAS chemicals in HPC, and it is a very safe formula. No need to worry about contact after cure at all, either. You will not find another product on planet Earth with the performance of HPC without PFAS.
-MK
Hello MK, thank you for such a considered reply. I will go ahead with my HPC purchase as a result of the info you shared. Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to share. I sincerely appreciate you allaying my concerns.
When using an iron Decon, how much would you use from a 32 ounce bottle? Let’s say a small four door car? I feel like I might be using too much. I be wanting to cover the whole painted surface
It’s a good question and the answer really varies based on how bad the contamination is. Sometimes you can hit one time and be good, sometimes it takes 2-3 applications. That said, when we did the calculations it was around 6-8 ounces for a “normal” case and about twice that on the most extreme end.
-MK
I need some clarity on megs hybrid paint coating prep. Current vehicle has properly applied megs hybrid ceramic and use of megs hybrid wash wax for shampoo, even detail with megs hybrid ceramic detailer. I want to use megs hybrid paint coating this summer to better protect for the length of northern Indiana winters. I’m happy with current paint condition and do not need clay or compound or polish. Now what? Need to remove what I have? How? Can’t simply just use the paint prep? Won’t “stick”. Etc ???
For that scenario I would step up to a wax and grease remover. With that much layered on hybrid ceramic the M122 alone won’t take it off. Kleen Rite Prep-All Wax and Grease Remover Is an example of one.
Thanks for the video, very helpful. I wasn't clear on your recommendation for plastic or vinyl trims and cladding, go for it, or avoid it? How about headlights, turn signals, camera lenses, plastic grills, etc.? What about rubber moldings around sunroofs or convertible tops? And last question, how about rims, would it help with brake dust?
In a nutshell, my personal experience is that this does well over most trim. I put it over headlights, taillights, side markers, etc and even pebble textured plastics and I am getting great durability. I don't know that it will bond well to camera lenses as they are some type of glass I believe, but it won't hurt it to try.
As for rubber moldings, I have gone over those and had no issues, although it doesn't seem to bond quite as well there. Just make sure you wipe it evenly.
Lastly, for wheels it works well - I have had it on my Raptor satin black wheels for one year and they all still bead water. As with on panels, make sure to perform regular washes and it should hold up. I suggest sticking to either basic car wash soap, or something like Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner or D1801 Wheel & Paint IRON Decon for cleaning the wheels. Avoid Wheel Brightener or the Chrome Wheel Cleaner as they contain a chemical that can hurt the beading.
I’ve been using the meguairs hybrid spray wax, hybrid wax and hybrid spray detailer on my car. In order to apply this new product what’s the best way of removing that previous layer? I’m not familiar with polishers or buffers. Thanks. Great video
The most sure way to prep the surface would be to use a mechanical process, even a light polishing with something like M205 or Ultimate Polish to clean the area, followed by the M122 Surface Prep supplied in the kit. If you do not have a polisher, it can be applied by hand as well for this purpose. You will not get much correction, but it will clean and remove some of the wax.
If you want to knock it all down even more, hit it first with either D2002 Iron Removing Spray Clay or D1801 Wheel & Paint Iron DECON. If you use an iron remover, do that first, then polish, then M122.
That said, the HPC will actually still be able to fight through a pinch of remaining contamination because of what is in the formula and should still work at least 90%.
Let me know if you need more info or if you are good.
I just tried this. My first attempt at any sort of coating. I've messed up with old school waxing before, too much or waited too long. So I'm no pro! But this was very easy to apply and get good results.
I did it on an almost 10 year old and 125k mile Lexus. I first did paint correction. My first attempt at that too. Car didn't have tons of spider lines, but did have a lot of scratches. Wasn't trying for perfect, just minimize defects and greatly enhance gloss.
Came out great! Then applied the hybrid paint coating. It was very easy. Did the wheels, plastic, every exterior surface except the glass.
I would say anyone that can follow instructions and has any experience applying wax, sealants etc can successfully apply this. An easy diy. Just need to make sure its clean, clean, clean!
That's awesome - thank you for sharing your experience and glad you like it so far!
I have an old 96 black Mustang which really probably needs to be repainted though some area are OK. I'm removing some swirls and scratches and wondering if this will fill in some of the minor scratches. I'm not sure how much of the clearcoat is left so I'm being really cautious.
Hi Justin - any chance you can share some decent photos of the condition of the paint? Generally speaking, coatings don't tend to perform all that well over severely oxidized or near-death paints. They struggle to bond and the lack of even surface tension can really inhibit the water behavior. That said, depending on the condition of the paint - a 1 step paint enhancement might do the trick to prep the surface to receive the coating. As for filling it, it will do some, but really just lighter swirls and such.
Can we top this in 6 months with Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax? I don't find the ceramic detailer very durable here in South FL. Here in SoFL, the temps on dark paint hit 190 degrees on a daily basis. We only get 6 months with the HPC on a daily driver down here that's kept outside. Garaged gets 12- 13 months.
Hi Bob!
Yes, you can coast over the coating once the hydrophobics die back enough. If you have been using detailers and such I would do a wash, then a chemical decon (D1801 is ideal because it has additional solvent cleaners which help remove waxes and such), and then simply apply the coating just like the first coat.
-MK
Can I use Synthetic X-press spray wax (D156) or another wax (carnauba) after applying HPC during all time period? Or better to use M799?
Hey Maksym, I think you maybe made a typo and meant to ask “during the curing period,” and if so, the answer would be to avoid using ANY chemicals for the first week if at all possible. Introducing other chemicals to the coating before it fully cured could potentially cause slight damage and reduce the coating performance.
Now, after the first week you can start to use spray waxes or sealants as they will not be able to damage the coating BUT keep in mind that most products will have worse hydrophobics than the coating itself, so when you cover up the coating with something inferior it temporarily masks the coating and will perform like what is on top.
M799 does have a higher contact angle than D156. I personally stick to M799 or other Hybrid Ceramic items if I need to use something on top of HPC.
-MK
Express Wash is it safe? How much ml express wash need to add to ordinary bucket 12-15 liters?
It is good to show about express wash (express wash and wax) meguiars product pro tips
Hi Maksym,
Yes, Express Wash is safe to use as long as you use common sense and use it on an appropriately soiled vehicle like any alternative wash.
dilution ratios for this are not set in stone, but this is generally what people follow:
Rinseless Wash Ratios
Extra filthy cars - 128:1
Normal filth cars - 256:1
Waterless Wash 128:1
-MK
Great video
I have a coating on my car already. Would this be suitable to be installed on-top of it as a topper to extend its life?
Hi Charles, depending on the base coating you have (specific one), AND the condition it is in (ie how fresh it is, or if the hydrophobics are dipping) it might work great on top of it. Many fresh/strong coatings (including Hybrid Paint Coating) will reject other coatings if you allow the initial layer to fully cure - but over time as they degrade they tend to then accept toppers again.
So if your has dipped down, I would give it a shot. I would do an iron decon, wash, M122 and then apply the coating. Hope this helps!
@@MarkusKleis great. Thanks
Will you have to clean the microfiber pad after use, where to throw it like most ceramics? There is no ceramic in it, but does it harden the microfibers ?. Thank you
It will clog them so they will not work properly, but it doesn’t get crunchy like some. It almost feels fluffy - it’s a flexible coating so it has a different feel. I still keep the towels but I relegate them to nasty clean up jobs and toss them.
@@MarkusKleis thank you markus! 👍
So Markus, I’m on my third wash since properly prep and coating with hybrid paint coating. Just let me say, wow! Very interesting. Washing my truck is really crazy. Not sure this will make sense but not even the soapy water sticks. Foam gun…don’t really need it because it drips right off. Wash one panel at a time and by the time you get back around the truck is almost dry. Almost like fast forward. Dirt isn’t stuck, but neither does soapy water! It is really interesting. I used megs hybrid ceramic wash after foaming with a different product and the megs soap with the boost doesn’t even perform like before because it won’t “stick” to add a layer. Really crazy! Very easy to wash due to not sticking dirt but also a very interesting due to soapy water won’t “stick” either. Good problem to have I guess. Any thoughts?
Haha, sounds like exactly what I experience. I was recently trying to test different types of grit guards to see which worked best but since both of my cars have HPC, there was so little dirt that even made it to the bucket I couldn’t even complete the test. The “self-cleaning” is no joke! Just rinse and you barely have anything left which means less contact and fewer swirls!
Glad you like it and thanks for sharing!
-MK
I am thoroughly impressed. I had a rain event that had passed last week but roads were wet so by the time I got across town. The overspray was all over my truck. Rather than leave it I grabbed a pump sprayer I had with distilled water and quickly rinsed entire truck. No drying. Went about my day. At quitting time I arrived out to what looked like a freshly washed and dried black f150! Are there any shampoos you have found for foam gun that do “stick” enough to be present during washing? I feel I might want some added lubricity during contact washing. Thoughts. I was using the Gwash by gtechniq today. Seemed to just drip off!!!
One more thing, you have mentioned using the bead booster product as maintenance for hpc. I’m not sure how it or anything else could “stick” to the hpc to add protection. I own a new bottle but it would seem like you would be just wiping it on and completely wiping it back off!!
@@Mize77 Actually yes, you’re right, when the coating is still at or near full strength it won’t even allow toppers to stick fully. You can use HCD/M799 as a drying aide for example for the added lubrication, and it will stick just enough to actually stay there until you wash it with combined mechanical and chemical cleaning (wash mitt and soap), and the mitt will remove it all. As the coating ages (beyond 6 months usually) it will start to degrade just enough to allow it to stick better.
-MK
@@Mize77 Yes. Ultimate Snow Foam was actually engineered specifically to cling to hydrophobic surfaces better - so it sticks really well. You can see the difference on my latest video on the snow foam sticking to the M799 side and sliding off of the blank side.
-MK
MK, for a vehicle parked outside, what is a realistic time frame for longevity? Ty!
Without toppers of any kind, just simply washing on a reasonable schedule (every week or two), you should still see a year or more. The main thing that hurts coating durability is being applied to a surface that is either already severely oxidized or degraded, or filthy. Secondly, not keeping it clean over time. The contaminants can settle in and inhibit the coating. UV is also a big one.
But long story short, as long as it is applied properly to paint in hood shape you should see 12-18 months even if outside.
@@MarkusKleis Awesome. Ty for your quick and informative response!
Is there anything that will cure in your microfibers or applicator that will make them unsuitable for use on paint, like how ceramics harden and will easily scratch paint after curing on a towel?
Hi Dylan, Yes, the HPC itself will clog the towels. It will not get hard and crunchy since it is a flexible coating, but it will clog the towels so that they are not absorbent at all. They actually feel softer in a sense because the microfiber doesn't catch your rough skin anymore since it is sealed.
So the 2-3 towels you use to level the coating should either be tossed, or turned into shop rags.
-MK
@@MarkusKleis thanks. That’s always the worst part for me haha
You bet. Also, the kit comes with two large 16x24 inch towels. So at most you will ruin one more towel beyond that.
-MK
HI MK! - love your content and your thoughtful/intelligent commentary. I just purchased HPC and will be applying it this coming weekend. I wanted to ask a few questions before I do: 1) Can I apply it everywhere without concern? Meaning the rubber along the windows, chrome (fake/real), hard plastic, ABS accents (like diffusers and splitters), black piano surfaces (acrylic?), headlights, taillights, and glass. 2)On the off chance I am not happy with the result can it be removed without compound/polish with maybe something like Adam's Strip Wash/CG Clean Slate/Poorboy's World Stripper, various APC's, various wax/polish removers UNDERSTANDING it would take multiple passes as the HPC is fresh? 3) Can I top off over in the coming weeks/months with spray waxes (ie Griot's Best of Show Spray Wax) or spray sealants (ie P&S Bead Maker) without it affecting its life or performance? Thank U!
Hi AP! Thank you for the kind words! Good questions. My recommendation would be to avoid the windshield as you may get chattering issues with the wipers. You can apply it to glass, but it doesn't bond the same way to glass as to paint or plastics, so expect less durability. I have personally used this right over all exterior trims without any issues of any kind. Just make sure the surfaces are as clean as possible ahead of time. For the glossy plastic, do a quick light polish and it should help improve the durability and final appearance. As removing the coating, it has extremely high chemical resistances, so it would actually be safer and easier to remove with light polishing than trying to use caustic chemicals. Strip washes won't even touch it, unless you use a strip wash like Wash+ with abrasive power. The good news is that you really shouldn't need to do this - you cannot high spot this coating the way others will. So I doubt you will need to do that. Lastly, yes, you can use toppers over it (they will not harm it), just know that for quite a while (usually 6+ months), they will struggle to bond. So they will apply, but once you wash the vehicle, the combination of chemical and mechanical cleaning action will likely 100% remove them. Also, know that damn near every topper out there will actually have WORSE self-cleaning properties than the HPC itself, so topping it with Beadmaker for example will temporarily make it perform worse from that perspective. It may also increase how much dust and pollen are attracted to the surface. For those reasons, I personally stick to products that I know have similarly high contact angles (M799, HCW, HCD). Hope that helps!
-MK
@@MarkusKleis Thanks for quick reply MK. I'm curious about Wash+. It looks like it's been discontinued as I cannot find it available anywhere. Can you suggest an alternate? Chemicals work better for me. I don't have the desire or energy for compounding/polishing. Having said that regarding the last comment and on another note where would you say the Megs 3in1 wax falls in terms of abrasiveness? I know it's consumer grade so it must be on the mild side. Is it on par with Megs Scratch X2.0? Again, consumer grade. Can either be machine polished? Are they more polish then compound? How do they compare with let's say a product like 3D One Hybrid or Rupes Uno Protect. I know you may not have used them. Just throwing it out there as a comparison. And I know I threw multiple questions. Just giving you more ammo. Thank you!!
@@brooklynpratt The problem is anything abrasive (including Wash+) will risk at least light marring, which would lead to you wanting to polish most likely. Can I ask why you are so concerned with the removal aspect? I ask because I really can't think of many reasons why you would need to remove it - but it would be helpful to understand your concerns.
As for 3-in-1, it is a fantastic product but very gentle. It's a great maintenance wax for folks that wax every 3-6 months as it has light polishing abilities, some good filling and great gloss. It would be a little less aggressive than ScratchX 2.0, and leave a better/glossier finish on average. Either can be applied by hand or machine, but ScratchX is really meant for isolated scratches rather than doing large areas. Ultimate Compound would be a much better option for a friendly whole car swirl and scratch removal.
3D One is probably a bit more aggressive than ScratchX, but not by much. It is easy to use, but know it does definitely fill. I picked some Uno Protect up, but haven't had a chance to use it yet.
-MK
@@MarkusKleis Awesome response. Thank you so much! With regards to why I would maybe remove it (not need to but want to): Having a product on my car (2017 VW Golf R in Oryx White by the way, beautiful pearlescent) for a year plus kind of scares me. Not from a fear stand point. Scare might not be the appropriate word. I just love to apply product after a wash. For me it's very satisfying putting on the finishing touches. The products I use are the ones I mentioned above, Griot's Best of Show Spray Wax, Beadmaker once in a while, and also Griot's Best of Show Detailer, Megs Ultimate Quick Wax, Xtreme Solutions Topper...anything that provides some protection and some gloss. And you'll notice they are in spray form. Again, very satisfying and very easy. My first delve into protection was TW Ice Seal N Shine. Loved it. Then I wanted a more "waxed look" hence the Griot's. But of course all of these are weeks to months of protection. Not a year. The only reason why I am applying HPC is purely curiosity for the product for the past year and your videos with the latter being very compelling. The interesting thing is I haven't found any videos or reviews on HPC at all, which plays into my fear (actual), especially when Fast Finish, all be it a different chemistry, was such a hit with plenty of videos and reviews. So having a product on the car for a year, and probably more because my car is not driven all that much, without being able to apply some sort of topper would be sort of a bummer for me even with all of HPC's pros.
@@brooklynpratt Great explanation - so knowing that, I have some good news! :) You can use any and all of those spray toppers over HPC. None of them will harm the coating. The only two things you need to know is that A.) Nothing - and I mean nothing - will fully stick for quite a while (6+ months). That means when you use those spray toppers they will apply and sit on top and add whatever properties they normally give EXCEPT once you hit the car with a wash mitt and soap, they will come right off. So if you want to use drying sides and stuff - go for it! You just have to re-apply after each wash.
Two, keep in mind that whatever sits on top dictates the hydrophobics and slickness. So if you top HPC with something with a lower contact angle (like Beadmaker or Seal and Shine), it will temporarily mask the coating and only perform like the topper. So just pick a topper wisely. The griots one you mentioned is solid. You can also use any of the hybrid ceramic items - pro or consumer.
-MK
I would love to see it on a black car.
I just applied it to a white car this weekend, heh, but I will see if I can line a black one up.
This is a great video. Question though, since meguiars no longer has D114 I use ONR no rinse. Would using this rinseless wash affect the Hybrid Paint Coating?
Hey Marty, when I didn't have D114 around I have used D155 Last Touch. That said, if you use that, you definitely want to be thorough with the M122 Surface Prep, or just make sure you do 1 step of paint correction and that should remove anything left behind from the Last Touch. Or you can use something like ONR if you have it.
@@MarkusKleis ok so ONR wouldnt hinder any negative results if used as a maintenance wash after applying the HPP?
@@martymccord9875 You can use ONR, D155 or any rinseless wash or waterless wash that doesn't have a "wax" component to it after the HPC cures no problem.
Hey!! I’ve just applied the coating yesterday and I noticed some flakes coming up…….. wonder if you could help me out. I did a three step paint correction ( clay, compound, polish) applied the m122 before and followed the steps
What do you mean by flakes? Email me pics if you can paint care specialist at gee mail but no spaces between anything.
@@MarkusKleis just sent you an email.
I had a horrible experience with a strange lint issue during application. I did switch to other microfiber clothes due to loading of the supplied ones. Prewashed chem guys quality micro fiber. The lint appeared to be on top but mixed in with the coating. Very frustrating. I had to walk away and I hope it is not one year + permanent in the finish. Any suggestions?
Microfiber towel lint does not cause any issues at all. A coating is about a micron thick - the microfiber lint is no where near the size it would need to be to actually mix in and interfere with it. You have nothing to worry about. The fibers will be gone the first time you wash it.
Usually when a towel leaves lint it is either because the towel was washed with aggressive chemicals or dried with heat and it causes it to release the fibers.
The other cause would be that there was either too much coating used (people tend to use more than they need) and so it cling to it since it was so thick.
Either way - nothing to stress about. You can either wait a way and wipe it again with a clean towel, or wait to wash it.
You were correct, the lint was not present after the first wash! Thank you.
Just purchased this to apply on my car. After it’s applied can I also use the meguiars ceramic wax or do I just maintain this with ceramic quick detailer?
Make sure you wait a full week before you use ANY chemicals on it, but when you do - you can use either ceramic wax or the ceramic detailer. You can also use the hybrid ceramic wash & wax that I did a video on.
That said, the detailer or the wash are the best ones to start with - the HCW is overkill on top of this when it is fresh.
@@MarkusKleis Thank You!
Can it be topped with Nv Lustre or Phoenix Titan to add more gloss?
I have not specifically tried those products, BUT, what I do know is that for at least 6 months (or longer) the coating is so strong that nothing you top it with will properly stick. As soon as you perform a contact wash it comes off. You can add it on there and it will sit on top, but it won't last like it would on bare paint.
I primarily use M799 as my topper and it faces the same challenges.
-MK
@@MarkusKleis thanks!
@ MK's Details & Deep Dives Can this product be applied over the meguiars ceramic liquid wax or before?
Hi Ronald, with any type of true coating you want to fully clean the surface so that the coating can bond directly to the surface (paint, plastic, glass, whatever it is). You have two options for how to do this - one is to compound or polish (or compound AND then polish) the area as this will mechanically clean away existing waxes or sealants, and then you need to use a Surface Prep product (like what is included in the kit).
Alternatively, if you do not want to perform a paint correction and you know you have fresh/strong protection there, use a Wax & Grease Remover (it's a solvent-based heavy chemical cleaner) and simply wipe the area. I would do two passes. You can then check the area with water to see if the beading is gone. If it is, you can proceed to use M122 and then apply the coating.
If that is confusing, let me know what questions you have and I will try again :)
@@MarkusKleis thank you for the clarification. I just watch the video again and you did specific this. I use the meguiars da microfiber correction system regularly when I compound and polish. Thank you for the quick response and look forward to more videos.
Oh and you didn’t mention in the video I don’t think, can it be topped with something like M27 or even Hybrid Ceramic Detailer? Or will those simply just not bond to it, essentially wasted.
Hey there, this was stuff I was going to mostly cover in the follow-up video with the first wash. That said, you *can* use something like Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, but honestly when the coating is new the toppers will be very temporary as they will likely not stick through the wash process. I would personally wait until you saw the beading start to dip before using toppers.
@@MarkusKleis Hey Markus, do you happen to know, If I missed the one hour window for the second coat, when is it safe to apply? Is a second coat even needed? Thanks!
@@soapa4279 Hey there, if you completely miss the 1 hour window I would just keep the extra product for down the road. After your first 1 week when you perform the first wash if you notice areas where it is not hydrophobic because you maybe missed a spot, then apply to those spots. It will not be able to bond to the stronger cured areas after about an hour.
@@MarkusKleis Thank you, really appreciate you responding and making this video. I applied it to my wife’s SUV last night and the one thing stood out to me that you mentioned, is the SLICKness. Holy moly it’s super slick.
@@soapa4279 You bet - and haha, yeah man it is no joke. I just performed a 6-month wash on a truck I coated and I was amazed at how slick it was. Like day one still and the guy parks the truck outside 24/7 and takes it to car washes, too.
Does it prevent uv fading?
Yes. All coatings, waxes or sealants from Meguiar's contain UV protection.
Trying to figure out who he us talking to....
A fair point - I cover some detailed, deep industry information, but also cover ALL of the bases so *anyone* should be able to confidently buy and apply this product after watching this. There are a lot of people new to coatings who would like to try it but are afraid to mess things up - I attempted to provide them with enough information to give them confidence to apply this product. Hopefully that helps clear that up :)
Can you wax the car after applying the hybrid paint coating?
Yes… it won’t harm the coating, BUT, it also won’t bond properly. It will come off as soon as you wash it next. Also, the wax will temporarily cover the coating so the hydrophobics will lower to the level of the wax.
-MK
@@MarkusKleis
Thanks for the quick reply.. I just want to apply something on top to boost the gloss and shine do you recommend anything? Or should I just ride with the coating?
@@monster83114 Gotcha! I use M799 or the closest consumer version which is Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. I use them as drying aides mostly. After 6+ months you can benefit from toppers like Hybrid Ceramic Wax as well.
-MK
Was that D114 I saw?!?
Haha, I knew there would be some eagle eyes that spotted that. I stockpiled some a ways back, and that is one of my 2 remaining gallons... like liquid gold!
@@MarkusKleis Ugh!! I miss that stuff so much. I have like half a gallon left but I’m so afraid to use it because I know I can’t find it anymore
Do you have a instagram page detailing
I do, but I haven't been very active. It is mks_detailsdeepdives
Megs should be paying you for marketing their product so much better than they do lol 😂 I tried watching their video on this and couldn’t finish it because it was so cringeworthy (the one with the old dude)
Lol. thank you :)
-MK
Keep making UA-cam videos please
Haha, I promise I will! I hope to have a follow-up video in one week showing this car getting the first wash and giving a few tips about maintaining it. There will be many more after that, long and much shorter videos as well. Thank you!
Thank you glad to see you active you were a huge help in many Meguiars videos you clearly are very experienced in the detailing world I would love to see some wash and talk videos just how you detail what you use stuff like that would be awesome and to see the latest ultimate paste wax updated version review to but anyways thanks for making the videos.
Kissing cousin is a odd saying
Haha, when you think about it, it definitely is lol.
That stuff is utter garbage plus it absolutely stinks too
😂😂😂. So you can’t figure out one of the most user friendly products on the planet, therefore it’s garbage. Meanwhile, everyone else loves it. Thanks for chiming in!