BlackBerry Classic vs. BlackBerry Q10 in 2024 | Comparison & Review
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- In this video, we're diving into a head-to-head comparison of two iconic BlackBerry devices: the BlackBerry Classic (Q20) and the BlackBerry Q10. As we revisit these timeless smartphones in 2024, I’ll be highlighting the small differences that set them apart and sharing my honest opinion on their performance, design, and overall user experience.
Whether you’re a long-time BlackBerry fan or just curious about these classic devices, this comparison will provide you with insights into which one might be the better choice for you in today’s world.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:13 Searching for the perfect dumbphone
00:47 Acquiring the Q20
01:27 Display and design
03:37 Screen quality
05:13 The downsides
08:11 Software bug
📱 Devices Compared:
BlackBerry Classic (Q20)
BlackBerry Q10 - Наука та технологія
I recently got the Q20 used and the previous owner thought it better to reset it. The complete setup notification was so annoying primarily because I am using it for calls and messages and unnecessary notification light or buzz just irks me until I check it.
Thankfully though, I found a hack on how you can turn on reader mode and when you go to the network page where it usually gets stuck, the reader will read out various options including skip and you can skip it then, same thing for one of the last steps in the process.
Once I did that, I haven't faced the setup notification again and it feels so much better now haha great video and comparison, I thought about getting a Q10 but couldnt find one in as good condition/price as the Q20, but im really happy with the Q20
Thank you so much for this tip! I am going to try it out straight away. The notification drives me nuts after a while. Especially as someone who was addicted to checking their phone anyway.
@@LauraMalvoyante I feel ya!! In the beginning I thought I could live with it but after a couple of days it just started frustrating me too much
I followed the instructions on this video ua-cam.com/video/VMFKJpxEIn4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
But there's other videos like it as well. The process itself was p simple and took me 4-5 tries because I missed the touch input timing smh but all in all took 15 minutes and now I live in peace knowing I won't get that darn notification again haha
@@TashfeenBukhari thank you so much for sharing this tip! I finally got around to doing it today and I no longer have the setup notification 🎉 It took a few tries and I kept making simple mistakes. I may do a tutorial on it myself to better explain to people so they don't lose time on the nuance of each step. I will also test this method on my Q10.
@@LauraMalvoyante I'm so glad to hear that!! 😄 Anyone who owns a Classic or any BB OS 10 phone could benefit from this. I know how annoying that notification can be and can turn people away from the phone itself (nearly made me stop using the phone haha) so please do make and upload a video about this tip so more BB device owners can be aware 😌
Edit: Just saw your video and it's so good and explains things in such a clear way. Great video!
Why what'sapp not working on Bb any solution for this problem
I would kill for an updated android version of the Classic
Same !!!
I'd honestly prefer the actual blackberry os with developer support for apps. If it could be updated with a 2024 refresh and have all the apps I need, I'd pay any amount of money
There are some communities that still use these phones, they find solutions to bugs like the one you mentioned and exchange programs that still work today. Yes, it is the father of smartphones, and it is a shame that it was discontinued.
Without BB smartphone world become boring
Agreed 👍
True, but I am happy to see someone give these phones a second look… when I look at these phones I am always reminded of the limitations of modern economies or civilisations. I think people still like these types phones but they’re not many enough to make business sense.
So, I have to ask is there or, can there be a nonprofit organisation that can offer new phones of this type? Or a business that can operate on slim profile margins to produce phones like these?
Congrats on 1K subscribers! Very detail comparison review video!
Thank you! I can't believe I'm at 1k 🥹
Hey, your channel is great! Keep up the good work! I have a number of Blackberries, Q10, Classic and Passport. Tried them again as daily drivers but sadly, they are slow... However, I miss the time when I used them all the time
Thank you! It's really hard to use them as a daily driver. I try but it's almost impossible these days.
Geat comparison! ❤
This review is very timely. Thank you.
Thanks you
Amazing! Thanks for the review, is amazing know the pros and cons of this phones, im looking to use one as my dumbphone and you help me to decide wich one.
You're welcome and good luck with your new dumb phone!
Laura, Good video. Very interesting. It would be great to see / hear your thoughts on the Blackberry Storm , Storm II and the Blackberry Priv ???
Thank you! I've been keeping an eye out for the Storm. I used to have a Priv but I gave it away. I will continue to build my collection.
I am the same way with the sensitivity . It took me forever to get a hold onto matte screwn protector... I miss phones that got the judge done, and they lasted for days at a time.
I have an older BlackBerry around here somewhere. I was going to try to find it but TMobile said it wouldn’t work. Did you have any problems? Also I don’t have a cord to charge the phone. Do you know where I can find one ? Thank you for this video. I loved it.
I use a curve, 2 q10s, a classic, a KEY 1 and a KEY 2 on a daily basis.
Keep making videos. Instant subscribed.
Wow that's quite a collection! Thanks for the kind words.
You're welcome. The fact that you are making blackberry videos makes you 10x cooler than the average person. Are you in the states?
@@mauricioreyes3372 I'm American but I've been living in France for 15 years.
@@LauraMalvoyante nice. In your opinion is bbos7 more secure than bb10?
@@mauricioreyes3372 I think BBOS7 could be considered more secure than BB10 becuase you cqnnot sideload third party apps like you still can with BB10. Both are still a lot more secure than Android and iOS devices nowadays
So, would you recommend some BB as a dumbphone today? Is it worthy? I'm in doubt because of whatsapp only, so I need it for work reasons. Nice videos!
If you need WhatsApp I would not get a BB. I would use a feature phone or a dumbed down smartphone to use WhatsApp.
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
Hopefully Blackberry model like Classic comeback with modern fitur... That will be awesome...
I need phone like that... So memorial if still alive ...
My BB classic just keep in library because we can use more the moment
I have several. Stopped using when they wouldn't run software. My KeyOne is on its last leg too.
I wish they would release a modern version of the Blackberry Pearl 3g, I miss that SureType keyboard so much!!
The BlackBerry Pearl was my first BlackBerry. I would love for it to come out again.
I can't tell you how much I miss the Q10 and Classic. The OS, when it was being supported, was a delight. In 2024, it's hard to imagine being unable to use Google Maps on my phone, though.
We've become reliant on some apps. I agree that Google maps is one that's hard to live without.
My vote is for the Classic.
I have these, the Z10, Z30, and Porsche Design. I wish I still had the Passport.
The Porsche design is my dream phone. I would like to try the Passport since I never had one.
@@LauraMalvoyante It's a nice one for sure! And If you get a hold of the Passport, the Silver Edition is the way to go.
Like you I am visually impaired so the Blackberry I use is the DTek 60, it is android so it will work with Google apps and it has a IPS display of around 5.5 inches so it can fit in my pocket easily and the sound from it's two speakers is amazing. I still have my Z30 device which again is android a d performs well in a modern world for those of us who need Blackberry in our lives.
I loved my Priv. The Dtek 60 is a good phone as well. I am looking at getting an Android BlackBerry again.
My 70ty year mother still ablolutely loved him. Shes used him for 7 years
Damn didn't realized you were French before I saw F SFR on your phone.
1) Blackberries aren't dumb phones, they were and remain designed as secure, productivity devices -- especially important in this age of constant distraction.
2) BB10's heyday has gone and past especially with respect to the App World, but it's still arguably the most secure "smartphone" OS available. (Point being, BB10 was when BB wasn't just a productivity device and it had more entertainment than BB7 devices including Amazon apps, but was still the paramount of security). Circa 2020 BB's CEO John Chen stated as much and was the only device authorized for HQ employee use in their evolving business of IoT security...
3) Android 4 apps can still be sideloaded AFAIK, and some App World apps APKs are also in the wild.
4) Yes, the Q10 is a better form factor than Q20, and roughly same form factor as the Blackberry Bold that also had the toolbelt. Ran the Bold until the shutdown as my primary for a decade... The toolbelt on the Classic is clutch however -- but also don't forget BB first had "gestures" in BB10/Q10 that controlled on an Android 4 system, when Google didn't have gestures until Android 9 IIRC (and the newest BB devices -- Key 2/Key 2LE -- both capped out at Android 8.1, so never saw the gestures functions).
5) You're lucky you're in Europe where using old devices don't get you booted from networks. In the US, that's a thing... Some old BB enthusiasts are using UK/EU sims to keep on keeping on.
6) BB10's Hub is and remains awesome tech, and it's unfortunate that most calendar and contact syncs no longer work. I think gmail email still works, but the rest -- not so much. The loss of consistent calendar and contact sync is a "bridge too far" for day to use for me...
YMMV.
3 days ago i ordered bb classic on ebay. I'm live in saudi but i ordered sqc 100 1 is it work here? Also if i buy it can i use for msg and call include internet? Please explain me thank you
I’m not sure what service provider you have but if you have 4g or 5g messages and calls as well as the web browser should work.
I see the Classic SCQ100-1 and that is Bands for USA Canada and the Q10 SQN100-3 Bands for UK. Anyway how did you get it to connect to voice service. Here is the USA I got AT&T to work by putting sim in another phone. But no voice. I use the Q5 on my horse as it is small light very easy to use. And I can afford to drop it. The Magic is in the keys. No endless swiping up down searching for that app. I also got a Unihertz Pocket and the Q5 blows it away.
I live in France and the carriers still support 2g and 3g bands for voice and texting. It probably won't work for many years for me but it should be functional until the end of 2025.
Btw, what mp3 player do you use?
@@Adnardiean I have been using the Mechen but this week I started using a KLIM Nomad CD/MP3 player combo
I LOVED the physical qwerty keyboard design on the Blackberry phones, one of the best models I had was the Torch 9810 (slider). However, my MAIN use for a phone is WhatsApp (all friends and family are on it), and well, Blackberry and WhatsApp... Non existent... IF, Unihertz was able to take the keyboard design licence from Blackberry, THEN, I MIGHT consider going for a Titan/Titan mini or whatever... 🤔😏
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Yes I use WhatsApp too for all my communication with family and friends in France. I use it mostly on my desktop and tablet these days. I don't need it as much as I thought I did and since I work from home the Blackberry is enough for my texting and calling needs. If anyone gets the right to use BlackBerry keyboards for their device they will have a lot of customers lined up, myself included 😄
are there any BBs that support 4g? i live in the US
I think for the US the Android BlackBerrys work on 4g (KeyOne etc) but the BB10 devices only work on 3g for calls and 4g for data.
Do you use microsoft teams on your device?
No I don't. I doubt it would work unless you find an APK that works 🤔
I HAVE BEEN USING BLACKBERRY PHONES FOR 15 YEARS NOW.
But how can you still use it? I think I'd piss people off if I tried to. Plus I do use Android Auto every day. Lol, maybe I'll give my passport a go. I do miss my pkb.
I still use a P9983 (q10) but the phone is very slow. The Classic is also a nice walk around phone. As of today, Bb10 only performs good on the q30 (passport)
I will get a Passport someday. I want all the BB10 devices 😄
Do BB still work in 2024? If so which carrier? I miss the BB dearly
The BB10 devices can still do call and texting. They use 4g networks. The newer BB devices like Keyone and Key2 use android and have more options for apps. I am not sure about carrier support because I live in France. I buy devices that are unlocked and they seem to work okay as far as carrier issues.
The setup loop is happening because the devices need to connect to BlackBerry servers to complete. The servers were shut down years ago so it can never complete. I wiped and reset one device just before the shutdown and never touched the other. On the second device I can still see old BBM chats that are saved on-device. Memories ❤
I finally fixed the setup loop today thanks to another comment. I pinned the comment with the solution and it works for all my other BB10 devices too.
@@LauraMalvoyantethank you! I’ll pass this along to my other BlackBerry-using friends
Can we use what’s app In this ?
No it's not possible anymore 🫤
I used blackberry 20 years ago. Like class c blackberry Q10.
Like my Q10, but my email provider (in Germany) no longer supports BB. Surfing the net has also become extremely limited. Many sites will not open. Too bad. Nice phone. Nice paperweight (at least for me).
Yes this is true in France as well. I use it as a dumb phone. Only texts and calls.
Wait ...... I meed this phone if i can call andntext on it
Hey I’m from Canada I wanted one badly but I heard if u buy one new you can’t use it ?? Anyone know if it’s true
The phone should work fine but you may get stuck with an annoying notification to complete the setup process. If that happens check out this link ua-cam.com/video/7tu1VMWNGZU/v-deo.htmlsi=3P6sdFP-CcxatIyC
@@LauraMalvoyante copy thanks
I still using Q20 as daily....still love it still big whaaat when someone saw this device.....i dont use social shitty apps only email sms and calls.
It's really a beautiful phone. I love Blackberry and I will never stop using them. I don't use any social media anymore either so this phone is perfect for those who want to enjoy their life away from a screen.
Please can you tell me ebay is the safe site for purchase blackberry classic Q10. I want to buy it. Seller says its brand new device with sealed box. All accessories available. The cost of this phone $103. Please can you tell me is this genuine site for purchase????
I bought mine on eBay with no issues for $40. Mine was used with no accessories and it works fine. I haven't had issues but it depends on the seller. Check their rating and buy from good rated sellers if possible.
@@LauraMalvoyante Thank you for your suggestion. It's very helpful for me.
Is the web browser still working on these phones?
Yes but some websites don’t work. I use it to access Google services with no issues.
@@LauraMalvoyante Perfect! Im in. refurbished here i come! androids/iphones can kiss my @ss!
@@LauraMalvoyante and may i add does the BBM also work?
Look at here I’m still trying to find somebody to pick up my blackberry torch. I got a lot of movies in lotta stuff on my blackberry torch and it still work very very well. Matter fact, I trying to get a carrier USA and they said that they cannot work with the blackberry torch, and is six dollars a month so therefore, please help me out with my blackberry torch
I don't think it's possible to use the BlackBerry torch in the USA anymore. They don't support 2g or 3g bands anymore. You can still use it for music or movies on wifi as a companion device maybe?
Q20 is a nice device you just can use it in the states
10 years ago, I liked my Blackberry, wouldn't use it these days
Apple iPhones Pro all the way now....wouldn't go back, but in it's hay day Blackberries were great
I miss these phones. I wish Blackberry was still a viable option.
Me too
HOW DO YOU USE THIS IN 2024?
Thanks... What about what's app , Gmail....is there any problem with these...?? Have you try it
I couldn't connect my Gmail in the accounts but I can access Gmail via the browser. Apparently BlackBerry no longer meets Google's security criteria (logical since the phones no longer get security updates or OS updates)
@@LauraMalvoyantegreat way to stay disconnected.
I had the q10. I wish blackerry would come back with new OS. Not android.
Me too!
I thought it was shut down and not sble to get service
It is shut down but the phone/texting function still works. There are people still creating APKs for them as well
Do these work in America?
I think it will depend on the carrier. They connect to 4g.
Passport was the best bb10 device
Will whatsapp work on this phone??
No not anymore 😔
Bold 9000 is better.
Why?
I sold my keyone recently and I regret it.
On no. I know that feeling. I gave my Priv away and I regret that too.
You are out updated 😂😢
Just a bit 😅
Support WhatsApp messenger? 2024
Unfortunately no
Next up..... BlackBerry PASSPORT!
I still use BlackBerry 10..best device ever
Hi. Everything is working? Email whatsapp insta and fb. Last week i recieve my black berry porche design. You able to use. The apps i mention
.thanks
There are Instagram and Facebook APKs but Whatsapp doesn't work. I use my email in the browser.
I have an older BlackBerry around here somewhere. I was going to try to find it but TMobile said it wouldn’t work. Did you have any problems? Also I don’t have a cord to charge the phone. Do you know where I can find one ? Thank you for this video. I loved it.
I think older BlackBerry phones (BB10 and older) no longer work in the US. I am living in France and the BlackBerry 10 devices need 3g for calling. They do use 4g for data. I have found BlackBerry chargers on eBay for cheap. Thank you so much for watching!
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
This is what I thought. It's annoying but it doesn't stop me from using either device. I want to try the Key one or key2. Whichever I can find for a good price 😅
@@LauraMalvoyante exactly.. my passport was giving me the same reminder so I got the classic and the owner had not reset it. I wish the bold 9780 /9700 was able to use 4g :( the leather back had me hooked!
@@blaketimmins-mn2ss the passport is a unique device and I hesitate to get one but if it has the same issues I will pass.
@@LauraMalvoyante passport is stunning little big though.. classic and q10 are perfect everyday runners so you’ve got me looking for a q10 as I haven’t got one yet for my Collection.. nice to know there are still people missing this device.. mostly BBM.