Was Gillie Da Kid A TRASH Rapper? What Stunted His Musical Growth?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2021
- If you haven’t heard of today’s feature as one of the more popular pieces of new age entertainment, then you must not enjoy said new age entertainment, as he along with first cousin Wallace Peeples aka Wallo have created and run one of the more unique and enjoyable podcast in the game right now. As some of you may know, he was also a rapper from the late 90s early 2000 trying to get on in the rap game just like the countless other inner city males all over the world. But his rap story is vastly different from those males and his success came as stark contrast to his rap persona, but also makes complete sense in hindsight as to why he didn’t see the same success, as being a personality was clearly his strong suit. He’s one of the co founders of the Philadelphia hip hop group Major Figgas that received high praise locally, but never truly turned that into group success. It led Gillie to seeking out a solo career, going all over the country trying to find the right fitted situation. That situation never came, and if you ask Wallo, most of it was to his own doing. He was supposed to be the next big thing from Philly in the early 2000s, bringing his versatile, witty flow to the game, that Brian Baby Williams actually confirms for penning some of the best hip hop of the 2000s, after previously denying it for a decade. With all those attributes, and clearly a Star personality in 2021, why didn’t he become a successful rapper? Here are 3 Growth Stunts in his rap career that caused that to happen. Was Gillie Da Kid A TRASH Rapper? What Stunted His Musical Growth?
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There's a saying that goes...SOME HAVE THE DESIRE AND NOT THE TALENT OR THEY HAVE THE TALENT BUT NOT THE DESIRE...I think this is him in a nutshell...some people want to be something but maybe not have the talent..but they want it Soo bad?...their desire takes them far..but some have the talent but no motivation to be more than what they are...GILLIE is a cool dude it seems..but you are right...he is like a guy who wasn't very good at basketball,but he became a great coach.. because his calling was to teach from a different angle...I salute Gillie for his perseverance...
It sounds good, but Gillie was in the streets and caught a fed case for pounds of weed. That stunted his growth... Not his skills.
Lol what he was literally a basketball star in philly and was signed and had #1 records before wayne did..
False, Gillie can ball and He's never been a trash rapper.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Gillie Da Kid and Wallo admitted that Jay-Z effectively blacklisted him after he refused to sign to Roc-A-Fella and become a member of State Property.
A lot of people look up to jay like a messiah … I don’t think SG do but jay demeanor always been foul and people love him for it
Bench Warmerss yea because it’s a dog eat dog world that’s what most people who hate him don’t understand them same niggas would be the first ones in line to be Jay Z or do what he did to be successful. I don’t hate him how can I hate on another successful black man he did what he had to do to make it notice everyone who he grew up with and stuck by him is successful. Ta ta, Emory Jones, etc.
@@clos1203 that’s a damn shame honestly .. but money run a lot of people’s lives so idk why I’m even surprised.
Yea that was important. I think his group Major Figgas was supposed to sign to the Roc as a group seeing as Jay already got money for a group. When his group mates all went their own way, the Roc needed a group and created state property. Wasn't the only major heads that blocked him though. Jay did some questionable ish over the years man.
Nah bruh he could’ve sign with interscope and he tried to strong arm then they laughed at him. Read 50’s book 📖
Shout-out to Wayne for stealing his flow and putting it to good use, otherwise it would've been a tragic waste
Wayne stole nothing from this man
@@donpatchey3178 Stop Wayne was Gillie Jr.........
@@waxx6426 waaaaas... then why couldn't gillie make a name as senior if wayne was jr.. lol.. lames ash
Gillie wrote Wayne ish
Lmao
He Gave Lil Wayne The juice !!!!!! When Weezy was on that mixtape dedication shit
Gil always had bars.. this title is disrespectful 😂 but hes certainly much more relevant in this line of work
Right his ego stopped him from being a success ghostwriter
he had bars, but he couldn’t make a good song
good songs > bars
Disrespectful, but true. If you are unable to write a good song or even deliver your bars in a way that’s compelling, you are a trash rapper.
@@mistahmst no kapp
Facts they definitely need to take this goofy shit down smh the industry blackballed that's why he didn't go mainstream people say anything nowadays
As A Big Lil Wayne Fan I Honestly Believe He Wrote Tha Carter 1( They Was Kinda Beefing By The Time TC2 Came Out) Hands Down. When You Listen To GDK And Early Wayne You Can Clearly Hear The Outstanding Similarities
What song he write because Wayne is on the credits of the good songs and if gillie did write but didn’t get put on the credits why didn’t he sue
@Dickie Moltisanti Around The Carter 2 Lil Wayne Started To Run With The Clipse Style From Wearing Bape & Rapping About Moving Heavy Coke (Example Money On My Mind From TC2). The Clipse Took Notice And Threw A Few Shots.
??????
@@airpegasus5167His mentor is literally the Birdman 😂😂😂 Clipse were small time dealers compared to Baby and Slim
Can you do Rich Homie Quan?
Forgetting the lines at hip hop honors …. His has one and only … he was doing good until then.
Once he did that funny dance 🩰 that made me feel some kind of way it was a wrap 🌯 for quan
Hell No! He shifted the game!!! Imagine Cash Money with no Gillie?! Their wouldn’t be a Wayne as we know hom
@wade wilson true gillie planted that upnorth punchline seed in wayne the whole swag at that time
Wayne took gillie swag and ran with it and the rest is history
That would've been okay
@@errickdeniro8845 how did he take it if gillie was helping him ?
@@ellsworthconstructionllc so Weezy didnt write his famous punchlines. aint a proper rapper if one dont write, juat a popstar.
He was always a average rapper in my book. His personality is what makes him who he is
Your book is not long so it doesn't hold any weight. You knew him as a personality first is why, if you grew up in the tri-state in the 90s you wouldn't say that.
Exactly
@@15lesson what good songs have he made🤔🤔 I've never heard anyone in my life play his music not even in the 90's
@@shawtyeatemup1352 they was big with mixtapes at one point they was arguing who was the best spitters from Philly and Gil definitely was in the argument for awhile. jayz wanted him and the figgas just as bad as he wanted beans MF 2000 was one of the best mixtapes in the city and his appetizer series was definitely fire y’all sleeping on gillie as a rapper he was a huge underground rapper that never really cared to go mainstream
I wonder if you thought he was a average rapper when he was writing for Lil Wayne.
Gillie had crazy bars. I was a fan for sure but he looked like a Martian and couldn’t stay out of beef with bigger artists
Lol this is true
He look like the type of dude that look like he can fight but he really can't fight but he look like he can fight so he got a lot of niggas in the streets shook lol.. He look like he can back up what he say...
50 said in his book "Hustle Harder Hustle Smarter" that someone asked him to put Gillie on but Gillie was demanding 1 million dollars; I bet that Gillie regretted it even if he won't admit it.
Yup i read that book I was like man Gillie fucked up but at the same time he’s having so much success with the podcast i
Nobody that 50 put on went on to continually garner success though, so maybe it was good he didn’t get put on by Fif
@@Countmacula666 read his book he explains that he wasn’t gonna put Gillie in G-Unit… he just put in the word to Interscope but Gillie wanted a million… as far as the ppl 50 did put on he tried to help them out but they obviously didn’t have the drive to do it for themselves
@Terence Johunkin exactly ppl are so quick to blame 50 but they gotta remember 50 put them on now they gotta do the work to stay hot and they were lazy except Game and Prodigy
@@4DaFam Rap groups are bound to fail regardless; it doesn’t work because 1 artist is more valuable to these labels and executives
Gillie and the Figgas are Legends in Philly.
I'm from EA, 13th and Erie. Those MF mixtapes was the hottest things on the streets 98 99 2000!! They had an incredible buzz in the city. MF 2000 is a Philly classic!! I Love Being a Gangsta?? 🔥🔥🔥 work!! I really wished they would've made some real noise in the industry.
Facts!! The Appetizer Mixtapes were 🔥!
“I love being a gangsta” gets play with me regularly still 💪🏾
Gillie wasn't trash. I remember when Gillie was on Suave House (Original Label Of 8ball & MJG and I still have that compilation with Gillie today) and also with Major Fighas. I also remember him from Ice Cube's Like Weight Remix from 1999. Somethings just don't work out.
These kids know nothing but assume
Yeah he didnt see any sucess cause he was a wack rapper and he'll still is.
@@sherrythompson9338 but you like Wayne
@@andrejamison2723 Wayne got a million freaking hits and that boy don't have one, and just that shows that he didn't have a dam thang to do with Wayne success, Future started out as a writer and you see how big he became, the same thang should have happen with Gillie if he really was writing anything for Wayne or was truly talented the boy straight trash end of story Wayne showed you dummies plenty of footage of him rapping off the top of his head in all his sessions.
Love gilly showed the publishing checks. Listen to his flow pre major fights. Sound like a down south artist. After a philly ny nigga. Gillie taught him how to structure multi syillliable bars. Drake Nicki Jae mills gutta Cory guns. List goes on people who has written for wayne. Thats y he was able to put out volumes of music. Young money was a sweat shop. Like most labels full of artist who never drop. Future is related to Rico love dungeon family. Outkast goody mob.
Crazy how wayne took his style and flow
Name10 gilly songs
@@101_Juice solo or doesn't matter.
I'm from Philly
@@dirkgarner9342 I’m just trying to understand how Wayne who has more music and versatility than anyone but somebody with way less work. Wayne switches up his flow bro. If he took from Gillie, but remember when 500 Degrees dropped and he got close with Jay. I see you’re point but be fair. That’s all I’m saying
Gillie ✍🏽for wayne
I been Gillie Da Kid fan since 99! Major Figgas and Suave House compilation!
You & what army? 😂
Philly rappers are extremely hard to market…… They definitely have the talent but its something missing.... This literally the 5th Philly rapper and you can actually do more.
Same with DC and Va rappers. So much talent. Too authentic for the industry
Philly is one of the major hubs of hip hop in lyrics and success. Has always been a strong spot. Philly, Newark, NJ, NYC, Now Buffalo and DC to a certain extent has major success and history they've always been a great market.
Joey Jahid was supposed to be up next
@@everythingdivine agree ish with certain DC rappers, but Wale was the opposite of DC rappers coming up, he wasn’t street rapper and he incorporated go-go music the right way.
Isn't will Smith from Philly?
50 actually got him a deal…if you recall around early 00s…50s stamp was a big push…but gillie wanted 1million…and at the time for a new and basically unknown rapper that was asking to much
He wasn't an unknown artist tho. 4 members of the figgas were already signed to interscope. Gill already had 3 record deals including a million dollar deal with Warner in 2000. They knew him very well but he just wasn't popping at the time because he was blackballed by jay with the whole state prop thing
Gillie definitely found his true calling
I didn’t expect this one. Much luv, love this channel. Keep up the excellent work.
As a philly native Gillie is a great rapper however it's just not in his cards to be a successful solo act.
But I will say y'all need to give Gillie credit for helping shape Wayne's flow and cadence with C1 and C2.
Facts
Right
For what it ain't put no money in my pocket 😂 Stop It🙌🏽
@@numeraluno8148 Because of Birdman shady business tactics, that's why Gillie didn't get paid. But you can't ignore Gillie influence on Wayne's flow during C1 & C2 era.
@@TheMelody15 he’s the reason Wayne is who he is today and Wayne never said a word bout gillie on his tracks
Please do Nature the rapper next
I never was really into a freestyle no beat accapella Gillie Da Kid, but put this man on a beat dam near any kinda u pick and he gon turn u into a believer and he's a problem periode.... I don't know if flowers are needed but u can give him a daisy you heard
A carnation perhaps 😂
Get Down On The Ground Was Hard and The Remix Was Too 💯
All facts
LOL no it wasn't. I swear, you guys will cape for anybody with any modicum of Fame whatsoever. That song was trash, his rap career was complete trash for the better part of a decade and he literally couldn't get his career off the ground no matter what he tried.
Guys, not every single rapper with a mixtape or music video is "fire" or has "bars". Some are trash, like this guy, and it's completely okay.
This was an excellent episode!! I had always wondered WHY he wasn’t as big in the game as many others said he would be!
I love watching your videos and after watching this one I finally became a subscriber this is the forth video that popped up on my feed and it great… keep up the good work😁👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🔥🔥🔥
Had no idea this man had a music version of stunted growth! Instant subscribe
This channel is the shit bruh
You’re insightful and that’s your gift STUNTED GROWTH, and I’m glad that you found your gift or calling so to speak and it wasn’t necessarily basketball for you, it was having the insight and perspective to give thorough analysis on music and sports 🏀!!! Thanks Fam I Appreciate You
I requested this video. I'm not sure if that was the reason it was made but thanks. Also, what stunted The Cool Kids growth?
Damn. Ahead of there time...
Troy Ave Should Be Next That Stunted Growth At An All Time High FrFr 💯
Shyt
@@shehateme9955 What You Mean?
@@slicktalksampson1727 as in shit...damn. u said it all
Troy ave is hard
Troy Ave 😂😂😂
Stunted his own growth by being straight trash
That intro and delivery sounded like Wayne....I see that Wayne did get that delivery from Gillie
PLEASE do the following:
Black Rob(RIP)
Nature
Saigon
Uncle Murda
Joell Ortiz
Ace Hood
Wale
J-Hood
His delivery, cadence, confidence and charisma is what made him dope
Fabulous
My nigga GDK said "fee fi nigga fo fum" lmaoo Gillie was mad different back when he was doing his shit lmao I mean dude changed Lil Wayne whole flow in addition to some others on Cash Money .. #MajorFiggas was a wave as well !!! Gotta put #respect on GDK name when it comes to rap/hiphop no cap at all !!! 💯💯💯✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Facts! Being from New Orleans and listening to Wayne's flow when he was teen, you can tell he switched his flow to fit more of an East coast style. Gillie definitely helped him!
Love the content Playboy. Can you do one on Smoothe Da Hustler
I'm commenting before watching, but i HOPE you mention "frontin like ya daddy", i don't know how that didn't end lil wayne. funniest diss track ever
Can you do Lil Romeo or Vanilla Ice
This was good
Btw if u do gill u got AT LEAST 2 more figgaz members to do in: Dutch man and spado!!!!... my man!?......SPADEOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,, super slept on and underrated in spade!!
Spade-O Was Dead Nice . Arguably The Leader Of Major Figgas 💯
Yeah, Spade-O 💯
It’s easy to see why they ain’t go no where lol
Well…there was an entire generation of Philly rappers that didn’t blow up right alone with Gil but at one point he was supposed to be the Jay Z of Philly. You had to be there in the 2000s to understand that little known era of Philly trying to become a rap mecca. But you also gotta know that most Philadelphians are underdogs no matter what they go after. Just my opinion as a person who was there. South Philly yuuuuuurp 💪🏾
I'm from Brooklyn I remember dudes having heated arguments in school saying Gil was better than Jay.
I rocked with Major Figgaz !
Fabolous needs one next. His career is so tricky to me. He clearly had potential, in a lot of ways met but he still leaves a lot to be desired
Mfs listen to Fab and fw him heavy idk what it is either. It's like a invisible wall
@@LxrdBreezy00 Man! It's weird. From mixtapes to pop hits, he had em. He resonates with a younger still. But his career is still a big question mark to me. He's like C Webb but the rap version
@@CashColorCannabis wait what fabulous had one of the biggest songs ever and a plethora of hits. I’m not a fabulous fan but he should be nowhere near videos like these. He was a star
He ended up doing one on Fab
According to what I heard he was just rap hustling. He wasn't trying to be a rapper like that anyway
“Yea that’s us” 🎵🎶
You hit it on the head with this one. Funny how life turns out but sometimes those L's lead you to your biggest W's. If you don't succeed try,try again!!!!
He was actually approached to sign to Rocafella, but they only offer him 10K.
Nothing but love 💞
Gillie b goin off on the court too at age 47. Dawg been killin in BIG3 celebrity games the last 2 years
He was fire before he went to New Orleans. He tried to put that twang on shit. He think it's swaggy but it didn't age well
As a rapper he is nobody I'm putting on my favorite list. It's the charisma, that's all.
Son was mad nice, prolly ahead of his time, and he wrote for wayne 🤷🏾♂️ respect do✔
Cuzzzz you outta pocket for this one, Gill still running up a bag..I wish I could tag him &wallo🤣😂😂 they definitely would like this jawn-prolly be cracking up♠️ #215 affiliated💯
Dm it
This dude is a joke Fam, he talked about Fab and never mentioned SoulTape 1,2 or 3.
I ain’t gonna lie I never listed to gillie like that but when I come by some gillie shit that man was talking THAT SHIT!!!! 🔥 🔥🔥💨💨💨
Gillie gon diss you on the next podcast lmao
😅 No lies told.
Yeah his arrogance would’ve gotten in his way even if a label did push him, I liked Gillie as a rapper but when the dvd era came and the behind the scene side of rappers was exposed he was too cocky when he spoke of himself. Like calling himself the King of Philly without a full album project to back it up, him going at Wayne after giving Wayne his style didn’t work in his favor because hearing him rap after Wayne popularized the style it made him come off corny even tho the style originated from him, I think him even being a ghost writer stunned his growth also. Another thing the beefs and him in the streets played a part too, after cash money he was more known for pulling up on Cassidy block than he was music. I’m glad he prospering right now with his podcast as a rapper he was a talented problem.
Damn Wayne really stole this man delivery lol however I don’t think Gillie ever had the image nor the song making ability to excel.
I forgot, please do Red Cafè, State Properly, Major Figgas
Him and his Cousin running up Millions together gotta make the family proud as hell
Major Figgas were signed to Ruff House , they all had solo deals gillie had a solo deal with Suave House, Ab liva was at aftermath, Dutch and spade unetertainment, then gillie signed to cash money
Ruff nation / Warner** dutch & spade went from untertainment to interscope in 99-2000.
Gillie Da Kid the Cuttino Mobley of Rap.
Lmao the Cat I’m done 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO. I haven't heard that name in a while.
Guille is Dope! Look at lil Wayne numbers
He always looked old
Facts 😂😂😂 bro was 19 looking 49
@@dwadeisthegoat2020 His age is catching up with his face
Major figgaz was signed to ruff nation. They had a decent hit "Yeah that's us." Gillie signed to Suave House solo. Check him out on Eightball and MJG album in our lifetime. The track is titled ARMED ROBBERY. He has the 2nd verse.
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can you do some about capital steeze, danny brown or mac miller
I was just thinking by in day it seems that the talent was the entertainment now it seems the entertainment is the talent
Gilli has a lot of freestyles out but albums no Gille COULD have been, SHOULD have been, WOULD have been but never made really made it. But I praise him for finding ways to stay relevant and starting his pod cast.
Can you do J Dilla
You gotta do NYCKZ. He got hot over a line in a rando rap battle spot. You know, the "you justmad cuz I'm stylin on ya" dude.
I learned from experience that some ppl just sound better rapping the lyrics that you wrote , hence the Gillie/Wayne Jr Writer/Cam’ron Etc
Hold up... I know you ain't tryna say JR wrote for Cam?
@@smokeyfizzle that’s a known fact , where you been , I’m not saying he wrote for Cam I’m saying he wrote for himself and Cam liked it and swiped it for the better of the community
FYI those lil wayne bars in the beginning are about a rapper named willie the kid not gillie the kid lmao wayne dissed on a track called problem solver
The fe fi fo fom line 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do Willie The Kidd next or when you have time he was a dope lyricist back in 07 with DJ Drama and the Affiliates movement he haven't really done nothing since but pushin out mix 💿
Maze& Muziline from nore
Do a episode on Reed Dollaz
Ab liva tribute. His pen...wow u just spoke his name
@ 21sec mark, you can tell he wrote for Wayne when Wayne was transitioning from his New Orleans flow to his New Orleans/York style. I know Gillie said he wrote for him.... About to finish watching the video...
Wayne stole that man whole flow if nothing else and that shit is obvious
Facts
It was rumored that he wrote the entire First Carter album for Wayne. I remember that.
He didn’t write the whole thing but I can see a few songs Wayne wrote go dj and a few more big songs on that album
This will answer your question, do Gillie have any hit album or records for that matter
So if you dont have that youre trash?
Ok
@@OmarScruggs when you make bold claims that you wrote for Wayne with no proof or evidence of it you are.
@@sherrythompson9338 so if wayne aint say he wrote for him it didn't happen? What do you gain by saying another man wrote for you. If you followed you saw a change in Wayne flow using philly slang etc and it eventually surfaced that he ghost wrote...years later.
@@1625GEE point me to the evidence he ghost wrote beside him saying it then later saying he didn’t
@@Zee006_ yeah these idiots will say anything just to keep stupid mess going although they dont have a shred of evidence that it took place what so ever.
His rapping style and cadence was weird.
It sounds great on lil wayne tho
😆 🤣 😂 😹
The flow he had was made for Wayne.
It’s like wrong vessel and spirit combo
He was a beast on Armed Robbery
His son's might blow and keep the family legacy going. Smart and patient man did not sign his hard work away for somebody else to profit on. Look at him now STILL getting the bag with his BLOOD COUSIN that he stayed loyal to and now they can eat together
What? Him and Spade-O was the best ones of the Major Figgaz. When they dropped their first mixtape, they were thee best in Philly. They had a crazy buzz in the city for years.
Lmaoooo rhetorical
Do Keith Murray or Grand Puba
JC should do one on archie eversole and drama maybe goel
Do Willie Da Kid next…..
Closed caption said "Nasir Fart" 🤣
Gotta de esss these videos or something i don't need asmr
The third stunt applies to so many artists and people in general! GTK was cool, had talent for rap but just wasn’t willing to do what many artists did to be “successful”. Glad he found his calling
DO A STUNTED GROWTH ON SLICK PULLA!!!!
Homie nice the title tripping don't nothing corny come out of Philly
Gillie da kid looks like the sherm head in the movie dueces
Gillie never bent over and took it from the white man I guess
White man or bird man
@@esh5168 👆
Wayne’s writer TRUTH
He was wasnt talking bout gillie bruh! He was talking bout willie the kid that was signed to Dj drama affiliates… willy made a whole mixtape bout Wayne and baby
I know him cause of the pod
I’m Not from Philly, but P4P they have the best spitters then Any 1 city collectively in the world 🌎💯