Ruby Franke’s Husband Questioned By Cops After Kids Found Bound in Duct Tape

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  • @LawAndCrime
    @LawAndCrime  8 місяців тому +145

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    • @TheWritingBug-ws6yq
      @TheWritingBug-ws6yq 8 місяців тому +17

      Before becoming a vlogger, Ruby never had a job. Being a stay at home mom gave her a sense of importance & this is why Kevin never interfered. Because he’s a pushover.

    • @suzannec8400
      @suzannec8400 8 місяців тому +10

      @@TheWritingBug-ws6yqI think you are correct that’s why or at least it appears things got worse when E started school because she has no purpose and lost what was left of her mind.

    • @kellegraff6626
      @kellegraff6626 8 місяців тому +25

      The guy seems to have very little response of any sort upon hearing the horrible news of his son's condition. He seems very passive and detached, sad.

    • @vergeREVO
      @vergeREVO 8 місяців тому +17

      He seems bewildered, and super overwhelmed, devastated.

    • @vergeREVO
      @vergeREVO 8 місяців тому +14

      When you have your hands on your head, constantly, for so long, that indicates he's self-soothing. He's overwhelmed by what happened to them.

  • @ReebaD
    @ReebaD 8 місяців тому +8598

    “How did you discipline your kids when you lived in the home?”
    Kevin: “I’m not comfortable answering that.”
    Tells me all I need to know.

  • @BethRitterGuth
    @BethRitterGuth 8 місяців тому +8547

    He says he wishes he was a better husband, but never says he wishes he had been a better father :(

    • @Ashnod24
      @Ashnod24 8 місяців тому +618

      He al so asked what is happening to his wife. He never asked if his kids will be oke. Only thing he asked about them is when he gets controle over them😔

    • @kittycaruso50
      @kittycaruso50 8 місяців тому +368

      ​@@Ashnod24 exactly he wanted to be able to pick them up and intimidate them into taking back what they said about their mothers abuse. Its all about pleasing Ruby

    • @gregg9672
      @gregg9672 8 місяців тому +202

      Arrogant Monster

    • @irvintheliger3091
      @irvintheliger3091 8 місяців тому +274

      And the first thing he asked when they came back was, what’s going to happen to my wife. Never once did he say he immediately wanted to see his children.

    • @Ashnod24
      @Ashnod24 8 місяців тому +54

      @@irvintheliger3091 you dont have to see them you only have to controle them ...

  • @melissaw5626
    @melissaw5626 8 місяців тому +3415

    If you’re not begging and crying to see your child immediately after hearing that they’ve been hurt, something is amiss.

    • @michaelscott33
      @michaelscott33 8 місяців тому +50

      He was told to pick up his kids, not what happened, genius. Some people may not react the same way as you. As a father, I think I’d rather keep my emotions in check and not crying and screaming like a 5 year old.

    • @flynnlivescmd
      @flynnlivescmd 8 місяців тому +18

      Bingo 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

    • @thepearlswirl
      @thepearlswirl 8 місяців тому +9

      💯

    • @nounouxmarley8771
      @nounouxmarley8771 8 місяців тому +27

      He was mind tricked AF but his children need him, let’s pray for a real life accountability for this dude..

    • @noteverton
      @noteverton 8 місяців тому +7

      Yep. Up to that point he seemed credible.

  • @GoodCitizensSpeakingUp
    @GoodCitizensSpeakingUp 8 місяців тому +627

    He never once asked if his kids were okay - but he asked about what would happen to his wife 👎

    • @barbaras2669
      @barbaras2669 7 місяців тому +11

      He probably doesn't want to raise them himself.

    • @fsimonab.2068
      @fsimonab.2068 7 місяців тому +8

      He is more worried about taking care of them alone

    • @saracooper7904
      @saracooper7904 7 місяців тому +12

      This guy is not a parent. He clearly is not involved in these kids lives at all. He’s a horrible parent, and he should be blamed to some degree. He’s like a robot.

    • @cocowalker1690
      @cocowalker1690 7 місяців тому +2

      Was about to comment the same thing, but scrolled to see if someone beat me. So glad I’m not just being pessimistic because I HATE cases like this but yeah… I think even the police interviewing him were just waiting for him to show emotion to the state of his kids but this guy… He asks after their tormentor and double downs on loving her… I get that that’s somewhat fair, 20 years isn’t something people do nowadays but my goodness, the little emotional distress he showed in regards to the kids seemed forced and that honestly has me thinking he needs to be rocking cuffs as well…

    • @TheSuperriffs
      @TheSuperriffs 7 місяців тому

      He said he’d like to pick them up

  • @saunch09
    @saunch09 8 місяців тому +4664

    "What's going to happen with my wife, I love my wife." Not a word about his kids. So gross.

    • @annamariavalatka636
      @annamariavalatka636 8 місяців тому +35

      SMH

    • @Amzlouuu
      @Amzlouuu 8 місяців тому +91

      I am infuriated with that 🤬

    • @debbied9740
      @debbied9740 8 місяців тому +80

      Addiction to his wife. Focus dude focus on kids.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 8 місяців тому +60

      Lots of co parents see their kids abused in many ways emotional psychological physical and s.a. and do nothing. It's why many grow up messed up by the less abusive or non abusive parent. This guy is useless! Waste of space

    • @perpetualautumn6773
      @perpetualautumn6773 8 місяців тому +78

      It’s sick, I would be demanding to know if my kids were ok, are they gonna make it?! He’s just worried about the abuser.

  • @milff8663
    @milff8663 8 місяців тому +2882

    he doesn’t wanna press charges against his wife but was dying to press charges against his own daughter what a joke

    • @mad7fisher
      @mad7fisher 8 місяців тому +119

      He is. That's no man. 🐁

    • @MillyMasher
      @MillyMasher 8 місяців тому +93

      What a vulgar father 😮

    • @dukeslindaj
      @dukeslindaj 8 місяців тому

      He’s not a father he’s a sperm donor

    • @cynthiaranzolin5175
      @cynthiaranzolin5175 8 місяців тому +177

      No “are my kids ok?”. More concerned about missing his wife than if his kids are actually OK.

    • @mad7fisher
      @mad7fisher 8 місяців тому +37

      Priorities 😑

  • @haznation1
    @haznation1 8 місяців тому +1477

    I keep waiting for this guy to ask "Where are my kids? What hospital? What injuries? Where are they all? Who has them?" BUT nothing.

    • @thanchanok02
      @thanchanok02 8 місяців тому +28

      Agreed! None of them

    • @mamasmurf7830
      @mamasmurf7830 8 місяців тому +26

      Exactly. That says it all! He’s infuriating!

    • @Auddawg90
      @Auddawg90 8 місяців тому +33

      Me too! Really bizarre how emotionless he is and how unwilling to assist in a case that concerns his kids.

    • @lalacarroll431
      @lalacarroll431 8 місяців тому +10

      Exactly! I kept waiting and kept waiting while getting more infuriated by it! Unbelievable!!!

    • @bethhc
      @bethhc 8 місяців тому +12

      Jodie probably told him already when she gave him a call to pick them up😩

  • @shanna5259
    @shanna5259 8 місяців тому +1066

    This husband should NOT have custody of these 2 kids…….he’s just as guilty as ruby and jodi

    • @codedsoul7360
      @codedsoul7360 7 місяців тому

      @@Trrippy_Shadesyou also shouldn’t be allowed near any children. Anim4l.

    • @cragb3334
      @cragb3334 7 місяців тому +4

      How is he? . Hes had no contact for a year. Oh because he's a man???? Is that it?

    • @Aylii1
      @Aylii1 7 місяців тому

      @@Trrippy_ShadesIf you can’t clearly see he obviously has a guilty conscious and lack of care for the wellness of his children then you are an actual fool.

    • @NsS-dy2dd
      @NsS-dy2dd 7 місяців тому +38

      @@Trrippy_ShadesHE OBVIOUSLY IS GUILTY, DONT BE WEIRD

    • @NsS-dy2dd
      @NsS-dy2dd 7 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@cragb3334” because he’s a man” girl you must have watched a different video

  • @chloemonroe2908
    @chloemonroe2908 8 місяців тому +1034

    His lack of outrage is an outrage

    • @MaraChandler
      @MaraChandler 8 місяців тому +13

      well said.

    • @thepearlswirl
      @thepearlswirl 8 місяців тому +6

      no seriously..

    • @thehermitslantern777
      @thehermitslantern777 8 місяців тому

      Yes, he's like a lukewarm dirty dish rag.

    • @differenttakethanmost
      @differenttakethanmost 8 місяців тому

      @@RuggedSourcelack of testosterone, from her having his balls in her pocket: she “invited” him to leave the house but “make sure to keep paying alllll the bills”.

    • @bonniejosavland3227
      @bonniejosavland3227 8 місяців тому +1

      Exactly

  • @GwenPidgeon
    @GwenPidgeon 8 місяців тому +429

    If a police officer informed me my husband had dehydrated, starved to the point of emaciation, put duct tape around the wrist and ankles of my children over existing wounds made by ropes, the last thing I would be saying or declaring is I love my husband. That is absolutely the last thing I would be saying.

    • @Ashley__Rose
      @Ashley__Rose 8 місяців тому +18

      I would say ok take me to my husband, I need to “talk” to him. Give me just 5 mins alone with him, officer. 👿

    • @judithwilber2540
      @judithwilber2540 8 місяців тому +20

      he said whats emaciated....but knew the word nebulous lol strange

    • @cynthiagimbel6590
      @cynthiagimbel6590 8 місяців тому +10

      Agree! His sadness seems misplaced. His wife has sole physical custody for a year, he has no contact w kids, just finds out 2 were horribly abused during that time and his concern is all about Ruby and himself: "I just want my family back..." Very odd. I think most ppl would b focused on the children's health and verbalizing passionate confusion over how their spouse could let that happen.

    • @WeeScot
      @WeeScot 8 місяців тому +7

      By all accounts it was part of Jodies MO she would run marriage counseling courses where she would encourage the partners to break up and blame it all on the men and their inner demons. He was told he was the problem and that's why he wasn't to see his wife or kids.

    • @alexandraa3498
      @alexandraa3498 8 місяців тому +7

      I wouldn’t even be thinking about my husband, I’d have to be held down by 10 people to keep me from seeing my kids.

  • @Robbie_Rotten
    @Robbie_Rotten 8 місяців тому +2270

    This “father” should be “invited” to prison.

    • @lindalucia6334
      @lindalucia6334 8 місяців тому +38

      Best comment here!!🎉

    • @dobnerk
      @dobnerk 8 місяців тому +23

      On the other hand, he was also yet another victim of Jodie's. He repeated her phrases and obviously felt like he was the bad guy and was banished from the family. Jodie was a part of the agreement they came to for Kevin to banish himself for his bad behavior. There is no doubt that Jodie has manipulated many people in much the same way she did to him. The stories are coming out. Don't be so hard until you know the whole story. There's another guy who is blaming Jodie for ruining his life and destroying his family. Sound familiar?

    • @kittydollkori
      @kittydollkori 8 місяців тому +50

      @@dobnerkomg he is a GROWN human. Pls stop.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 місяців тому

      @@kittydollkori Absolutely! I see several people making excuses for this pathetic tool's shabby behaviour. He's an adult.

    • @babiegat
      @babiegat 8 місяців тому +3

      THISS

  • @elaineburris2896
    @elaineburris2896 8 місяців тому +289

    What man agrees to walk away from his home, leaving his children and AGREEING not to have contact with them?

    • @lynnb4348
      @lynnb4348 7 місяців тому +30

      One who seeks freedom. A selfish man. He relieves his guilt by paying the bills.

    • @samum5856
      @samum5856 7 місяців тому

      A dolt.

    • @georgiarasmussen8343
      @georgiarasmussen8343 7 місяців тому

      A wimp. The most despised creature on the face of the planet.

    • @austinscholl
      @austinscholl 7 місяців тому +3

      lol

    • @panda.bear15
      @panda.bear15 7 місяців тому +19

      I think no one is talking about the possibility that he may have been manipulated heavily by Ruby as well. After 22 years of that woman, she may have brainwashed him, like a cult.

  • @TinyRanter
    @TinyRanter 8 місяців тому +2037

    He was perfectly fine abandoning those kids, there is no way he deserves custody now.

    • @ZoeBay-vn1hc
      @ZoeBay-vn1hc 8 місяців тому +74

      He sounds brain washed or she is blackmailing him with his "addiction."

    • @shannonsummar5156
      @shannonsummar5156 8 місяців тому +32

      @@ZoeBay-vn1hc she messed w his head too!

    • @thisisme9136
      @thisisme9136 8 місяців тому +58

      This guy was so manipulated and abused by this cult... this happened to so many men in this cult... they were alienated, coerced and brainwashed... it's disgusting what Jodi did to so many families.

    • @yennyzepol1983
      @yennyzepol1983 8 місяців тому

      He was told that he was poisoning the family because he looked at por n. Then he believed it! Do you know how many couples would get divorced if what he believes about por n to be true. He sounds like a cult follower brain washed by his cult leaders. His wife wanted a verbal separation, not a legal one because then there would be consequences and court custody orders She wouldn’t have any control of. It’s just interesting that it’s after his wife kicks him out that the sadistic abuse occurs. Meaning that he wouldn’t have let it happen had he been living in the house with them. So she needed him to leave in order to be the monster she really is.

    • @TheLoneCamper
      @TheLoneCamper 8 місяців тому +20

      He has every right to them, but he clearly dosen't want them.

  • @kathleentorres2010
    @kathleentorres2010 8 місяців тому +1255

    He cries for his wife. Visibly shaken. But the news that his child was found with rope burns covered in duct tape, emaciated, and begging for help from the neighbor, zero reaction. I have no words.

    • @MiraculousAngelTarot
      @MiraculousAngelTarot 8 місяців тому +148

      The neighbour showed concern and real human emotion, this "dad" shows none.

    • @kellyewers5692
      @kellyewers5692 8 місяців тому +78

      It was worse than rope burn . The wounds were bone deep. Absolutely horrific and this pos is not innocent in this .

    • @squakke
      @squakke 8 місяців тому +16

      That really freaked me out.

    • @ginaverdi6101
      @ginaverdi6101 8 місяців тому +43

      No reaction! He knew this was going on when they lived together! What's wrong with him! He's guilty also

    • @sarahs2288
      @sarahs2288 8 місяців тому +30

      He was most likely aware of all of it, but they don’t have enough evidence to charge him.

  • @LadyJpraise2024unbound
    @LadyJpraise2024unbound 8 місяців тому +1178

    Talk about absentee father. The ultimate betrayal is a parent lying silent while Abuse takes place

    • @mouseandryforever6848
      @mouseandryforever6848 8 місяців тому

      Couldn't agree with you more. He is acting like a sperm donor. Nothing more. Kids aren't safe around him.

    • @mad7fisher
      @mad7fisher 8 місяців тому +33

      How could you not physically need to see your children? I don't understand that - for a year ?!
      he just doesn't give a crap, he doesn't care. That's the bottom line

    • @daisiesorchidsholly
      @daisiesorchidsholly 8 місяців тому +14

      I wish he'd stayed an absentee father, but he's too messed up to realize that he cannot be trusted with the children. He's done enough damage.

    • @charlotte_stevens
      @charlotte_stevens 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@mad7fisherwell said!!!

    • @richardwendt9266
      @richardwendt9266 8 місяців тому +10

      I genuinely think he was just brainwashed.

  • @PoppySeed47
    @PoppySeed47 8 місяців тому +193

    Kevin "we had a son that was acting out in selfish behaviours" what an odd way to talk about your son like he has passed away or something.

    • @TheAmtwhite
      @TheAmtwhite 7 місяців тому +28

      Sounds like the same language Ruby was using while abusing the kids.

  • @xoxolovechristielynn
    @xoxolovechristielynn 8 місяців тому +2794

    Don’t let this POS fool anyone! I’ve been SCREAMING about this family for like 6 or 7 years and Kevin is not innocent. Yes, the abuse obviously got worse once Ruby got in with Jodi, but make no mistake… Both Ruby AND Kevin used starvation as “punishment” for many years and even posted it to UA-cam. He was there when they were hungry, he was there when beds were taken from them for months, he was there when Chad was sent to a labor camp for “rebellious kids”. He echoed the same words about the children living “in distortion”, and needing to save their souls from “evil”. He needs to be charged too! He’s showing his true colors even since the arrests by threatening legal action against his own children! I hope and pray the investigation is still ongoing and he will be arrested soon. I also hope they’re investigating Ruby’s siblings and parents as well because her sisters used to join her in “parenting” videos on Facebook, saying the same damn things. Abhorrent people, all of them.

    • @annamariavalatka636
      @annamariavalatka636 8 місяців тому +37

      Me too!

    • @marcust123
      @marcust123 8 місяців тому

      He needs to be jailed the scumbag

    • @Zoehh473
      @Zoehh473 8 місяців тому +43

      Agree

    • @lisak5804
      @lisak5804 8 місяців тому +25

      💯

    • @honeybunch5765
      @honeybunch5765 8 місяців тому +129

      I haven't watch that much of them but the few episodes I saw it was very clear how weird and off they were as parents. I started watching them shortly before they sent Chad off to that torture camp. I did spot watching through their channel and was shocked about the mother's behaviour. It was obvious the kids were 90% of the time uncomfortable. The advertisements they had to participate in like poor Russel had to promote pull up diapers pretending he still wets his bed. The teen girls had to share their experiences of their first periods to promote sanitary wear. They were forced to play instruments. She would force them to perform infront of others. You could see they hated it and they all gave up their lessons because of Ruby. I saw all that unfold in the short time I watched them and that was enough to put me off and feel sorry for her children. I was sadden but not surprised when all this unfolded. Her sister Bonnie is just as strange and money hungry. Can't stand watching or listening to her. All these Mormon vloggers are weird. I refuse to watch family vloggers where children are involved.

  • @brandih8972
    @brandih8972 8 місяців тому +719

    That cop is begging that father to show even a little bit of concern for his own children

    • @yeesh9215
      @yeesh9215 8 місяців тому +28

      None to be had.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 8 місяців тому +27

      The faux sniffling is very surreal, feels performative

    • @jean55547
      @jean55547 8 місяців тому +34

      he knows he's being recorded, trying to make himself cry 😂

    • @tanyachambers5055
      @tanyachambers5055 8 місяців тому +7

      @@jean55547that’s what I was thinking

    • @tammyminor4272
      @tammyminor4272 8 місяців тому +2

      💯

  • @snowwhite2524
    @snowwhite2524 8 місяців тому +676

    Kevin found out that his wife tortured and starved their children and he's more worried about Ruby than his children. Wtaf?!

    • @DeathOfARockStar
      @DeathOfARockStar 8 місяців тому +38

      He knew all along she did that. Because he did it as well, he used starvation as a form of punishment. Watch their videos.

    • @1972dsrai
      @1972dsrai 8 місяців тому +16

      Thats because they didn’t tell him anything he didn’t already know. He’s equally guilty and should have been charged with them.

    • @nothingelse1520
      @nothingelse1520 8 місяців тому +5

      He's ab absentee father. People throught Ruby was a single mom

    • @arykaarmitage9178
      @arykaarmitage9178 8 місяців тому +11

      I have a feeling she has some kind of info about his behavior around the kids and this is keeping him quiet.

    • @yolly2292
      @yolly2292 8 місяців тому

      This guy’s acting is as bad as his wife’s

  • @theloftons8297
    @theloftons8297 7 місяців тому +197

    How could any CPS official believe this man should have custody of any of his kids is beyond me. He has no interest in caring for his children and should have been arrested as well. Those children have been victims of long-term abuse and he absolutely knew about it.

    • @Karma4All-
      @Karma4All- 7 місяців тому +1

      There are abuse survivor stories from the Church

    • @ChickenSoupMusic
      @ChickenSoupMusic 7 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately CPS just want to close cases because solving problems is too complicated/ takes too long.
      None of our 3 letter agencies function well or with best interest.

    • @Seagal655
      @Seagal655 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes! One of the boys mentioned that his dad was in on it,too while being questioned by the police. What about his culpability?

  • @laurenc2976
    @laurenc2976 8 місяців тому +287

    He really failed his kids and the fact that his primary concern is still his wife is utterly bizarre and yet another failing to his abused and mistreated children.

  • @brookehoskins
    @brookehoskins 8 місяців тому +534

    What a tool. He never even asks about his children's conditions.

    • @m.w.3699
      @m.w.3699 8 місяців тому +12

      Yea he must have already known. There’s no way he wouldn’t have asked ‘is he ok?’

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 8 місяців тому +4

      Ruby called him! "Come get the kids!". That's all we know.

    • @Psychiatricnerd
      @Psychiatricnerd 8 місяців тому +5

      Honestly I think she abused him (emotionally) as well.

    • @ceterisparibus8966
      @ceterisparibus8966 8 місяців тому +1

      I guess, but do you consider that he abused her?@@Psychiatricnerd

    • @merleginsburg388
      @merleginsburg388 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Psychiatricnerd i'm sure you're right.

  • @trinity5283
    @trinity5283 8 місяців тому +580

    He’s aware, she didn’t start behaving that way over night.

    • @sandraabrahamsson6677
      @sandraabrahamsson6677 8 місяців тому +16

      💯 and he sees nothing wrong with her behavior

    • @Mother_of_zebras
      @Mother_of_zebras 8 місяців тому +5

      Go listen the phone called from jail between the two. Made me sick how he had nothing to say except to agree with her.
      Jodi thinks she is the next coming, and that the Bible backs her.

  • @valerierodger
    @valerierodger 7 місяців тому +88

    Damn. I kept waiting for him to ask how his kids were. The fact that he never did tells me more about him than anything I’ve heard since this hit the news.

  • @marilouo4321
    @marilouo4321 8 місяців тому +565

    He was a college professor and he did not know what emaciated meant? He had to ask for a definition. Unbelievable.

    • @77cns
      @77cns 8 місяців тому +38

      I noticed this too. More than once, he asked the police what a certain word means.... then later he says he's smart. ha!

    • @cynthiawilson5066
      @cynthiawilson5066 8 місяців тому +4

      Really

    • @soude85
      @soude85 8 місяців тому +30

      You think that’s odd? Of course he knows what the word means but he doesn’t understand why this word was used in connection with his children. (Like “Are they just skinny or what exactly”)

    • @chevyrell
      @chevyrell 8 місяців тому +18

      But yet used “nebulous” in general conversation🙄

    • @MaurLiz
      @MaurLiz 8 місяців тому +9

      I also thought it was odd that he asked what "emaciated" meant...IMO.

  • @rosemariewalsh1246
    @rosemariewalsh1246 8 місяців тому +1071

    I do not understand why this poor excuse for a father is not being prosecuted.

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 8 місяців тому +89

      Sherri, their eldest daughter, accused them of over a decade of abuse!! Listen to the children! ❤

    • @SalemTheScorpio
      @SalemTheScorpio 8 місяців тому +69

      @@teresathayn5170 I don’t understand why they aren’t listening to the kids. Sherri isn’t a child, nor is the oldest boy.
      Giving the children back to this loser is condemning them to more abuse.

    • @curiositykilledkat1
      @curiositykilledkat1 8 місяців тому +25

      Because LDS I imagine

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 8 місяців тому

      Because he is a holy man who had all these kids in the LDS. Utah is basically a theocracy, run by the LDS cult. That is why.

    • @TheBLGL
      @TheBLGL 8 місяців тому

      Because the Mormons probably don't think the men should be blamed for anything, I would assume.

  • @jenfoster128
    @jenfoster128 8 місяців тому +803

    'She invited me to leave the home' the most Mormon way of saying get out ever.

    • @algomaone121
      @algomaone121 8 місяців тому +29

      I know. No one ever gets invited to be kicked out.

    • @susaneweinberg4411
      @susaneweinberg4411 8 місяців тому +49

      Yes, INVITED. There are so many buzz words that Mormons use that on their face are inappropriate

    • @aClownBaby-
      @aClownBaby- 8 місяців тому +55

      They learn to make everything sound positive, it’s so creepy

    • @SimonkaShow
      @SimonkaShow 8 місяців тому +10

      That sentence sounded so strange to me but I had no idea it's a Mormon thing

    • @jc2385
      @jc2385 8 місяців тому +8

      He comes to get the kids. He’s worried about the kids. Really? He hasn’t bothered to call them or see them in a year! Makes no sense and no one in their right mind would turn kids over to him. He’s a stranger to those poor kids.

  • @Testfordre
    @Testfordre 7 місяців тому +160

    How is this guy not being charged? Who never asks about their kids well being for over a year?

    • @sugarsore
      @sugarsore 7 місяців тому +3

      Lack of evidence.

  • @nw22122
    @nw22122 8 місяців тому +1801

    Him still not having custody back of any of his kids tells us everything we need to know. Clearly he’s unfit.

    • @andreamoore367
      @andreamoore367 8 місяців тому +85

      Who has them ? This whole family is toxic. Her sisters are the same as her. Those poor kids

    • @pcbrightlights
      @pcbrightlights 8 місяців тому +77

      He can’t be trusted AND doubtless the children don’t trust him because he deserted them for more than a year!!!

    • @Patzgtr
      @Patzgtr 8 місяців тому +10

      Absolutely I totally agree

    • @alisalavine1052
      @alisalavine1052 8 місяців тому

      Uh, yeah, no. Just because YOU can't think of other reasons why he may not have custody of kids, doesn't mean there aren't any. Let's try logic for a moment.
      He is also a victim. He's scared. He's confused. He's been gaslit since Jodi came into his family's lives. He's broken and fragile and not able to take his kids until he's stable.
      My guess is that he's going through a lengthy process set forth by the Court to heal and relearn how to be a parent.
      Jodi had just as much a hold on him as she did Ruby.
      Jodi is a narcissist, a sadist, and malignant. She is a cult leader.
      This family, like others that were directed towards Jodi's practice, has to be deprogrammed then reprogrammed.
      Thanks, LDS church. Great job. Add it to a very long list of lives you've destroyed.
      This is what happens when we let a faith community tell us how to live. We stop thinking critically. We don't teach our kids to think critically.
      Like lambs to a slaughter...

    • @AidaShawJ.D.
      @AidaShawJ.D. 8 місяців тому +90

      He was in on it! He said he trusted that wacko life coach! He was disagreeing with the detectives about the horrific injuries his son sustained!

  • @whenimonmymoon6822
    @whenimonmymoon6822 8 місяців тому +178

    Also, this male cop is so clearly reigning in some serious rage. I appreciate the little bit he's letting shine through.

    • @MoreTeaPorFavor
      @MoreTeaPorFavor 8 місяців тому +18

      His ability to throw contained rage shade is remarkable. *chef’s kiss*

    • @tinawhite8835
      @tinawhite8835 8 місяців тому +27

      Early in the interview, this Investigator tried to establish a rapport with this man by stating how it must hurt his heart to be separated from his children for a year, and this guy looked at him like... 'Why would it hurt my heart?'. I think the Investigator decided then, no more Mr Nice Guy.

  • @willieverusethis
    @willieverusethis 8 місяців тому +867

    He should be charged with neglect. He didn't even visit with the two older children after they left the house. What a weak and ineffective human being.

    • @ghents565
      @ghents565 8 місяців тому +32

      You dont get it. He is brainwashed. He is very distraught. He did what the church told him to do. To try and get to see his kids. Ppl need to wake up and not let the church into your life this deep. I am not sticking up for him. He will need help and to be deprogrammed.

    • @laurieg673
      @laurieg673 8 місяців тому +4

      His son lived with him.

    • @teresathayn5170
      @teresathayn5170 8 місяців тому +27

      ​@@ghents565 Nope, I ain't buying it! He was party to all of Ruby's abuse of the kids! She'd make them go hungry, she hated cooking, duh. They were made to scrub the tiles in the bathroom on their hands and knees!! Kevin's all in, ignoring abuse and making millions!!

    • @eiforget
      @eiforget 8 місяців тому +27

      He also questioned why his eldest daughter wasn’t being arrested for “burglarizing” the family home when she went in to gather items like journals and such, likely evidence that she was determined to preserve before her dad or mother could destroy it, and he sees that as an affront and malicious activity. His own daughter and he wants her arrested. He’s a creep, just like his wife and Jodi.

    • @kellywilliams5088
      @kellywilliams5088 8 місяців тому +16

      ​​@@ghents565Seriously? He got out of there. He was free! He had enough time to really think about what he was doing. He knew how Jodi was. He never once told Ruby to back off when it came to her crazy punishments. I'm sorry, but he is complicit.

  • @jamiemoore9275
    @jamiemoore9275 7 місяців тому +30

    Absolutely NO care, worry, anxiety, anger, sadness, concern for his children!!! I don't need to hear anymore.

  • @shellibabick
    @shellibabick 8 місяців тому +2233

    I don’t believe this man is innocent of not knowing that his wife was cruel to their children while they were together. He knew exactly what she was doing. And he did nothing to stop her. He may not have been as cruel and evil as Ruby, but he knew what she was doing and let her do it anyway. Then he runs away like a coward for a year or so abandoning his children and leaving them with his wicked wife.
    He’s guilty.

    • @midnitdragoon
      @midnitdragoon 8 місяців тому +67

      What evidence do you have of his alleged involvement or knowledge in this horrendous situation? 🍿🍿🍿

    • @peppercat8718
      @peppercat8718 8 місяців тому +23

      My thoughts exactly 👌🏼

    • @Astral_Clover
      @Astral_Clover 8 місяців тому +1

      Nope… he put his tail between his legs and listened to these women and moved out!

    • @grapevinez6026
      @grapevinez6026 8 місяців тому +1

      ​their youtube videos documenting their abuse of the children, including denying them food @@midnitdragoon

    • @shellibabick
      @shellibabick 8 місяців тому +100

      @@Astral_Cloverexactly m. He’s a coward and abandoned his own children.
      He’s guilty.

  • @hollyantoun63
    @hollyantoun63 8 місяців тому +332

    When he is told what condition his son is in ... he never even asks about his daughter.

    • @Jiorgiapeach
      @Jiorgiapeach 8 місяців тому +25

      He doesn’t even know where his kids are. Like he didn’t even know if they were all in the same house. She totally cut him off. She caught him watching pr0n, kicked him out of the house and cut off all communication. Just like with the children, ruby convinced ppl that the abuse was their own fault. He thought he didn’t have the right to even know his children’s whereabouts because of his evil decisions.

    • @lornadryden5650
      @lornadryden5650 8 місяців тому +13

      But to be fair he didn’t know where any of the kids are and he’s probably still trying to honor Ruby by no being involved with the kids, he’s brainwashed

    • @cynthiawilson5066
      @cynthiawilson5066 8 місяців тому +5

      Disgusting

    • @soude85
      @soude85 8 місяців тому +7

      He actually did, it’s when the audio was cut off,

    • @elinaq750
      @elinaq750 8 місяців тому +1

      What time stamp?

  • @xxlouda01xx
    @xxlouda01xx 8 місяців тому +688

    His wife almost killed his children and he is not "comfortable" answering questions? Wow.

    • @deeandrew38
      @deeandrew38 8 місяців тому +35

      He’s also not comfortable asking if his son is going to be ok.

    • @MathewWoodard
      @MathewWoodard 8 місяців тому +28

      He doesn’t want to implicate himself, simple as. He knew what was happening, maybe not every detail, but he was aware. This guy is culpable.

    • @Nikki_alterego
      @Nikki_alterego 8 місяців тому +5

      Exactly!!!

    • @deeandrew38
      @deeandrew38 8 місяців тому +12

      @@MathewWoodard yeah… so why is he not being charged at all? This is neglect at best on his watch.

    • @amandataylor1604
      @amandataylor1604 8 місяців тому +5

      My understanding is that he was told to pick up his kids....so at this point he doesn't know anything

  • @PatrickPierceBateman
    @PatrickPierceBateman 8 місяців тому +58

    This guy neglected his children and allowed his wife to abuse them and he gets to walk away like nothing happened? Why isn't he in prison?

    • @nadiad9307
      @nadiad9307 5 місяців тому

      À ce demander s'ils sont tous normaux dans leurs cerveaux à ces policiers et juges aux Etats Unis. Si eux ne défendent pas les enfants !!! Qui va le faire ?

    • @varsande
      @varsande 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nadiad9307 the police are there to gather as much information as possible. Do you even know how the justice system works? The police are not the prosecutors.

  • @lachexamour
    @lachexamour 8 місяців тому +944

    How is he a college professor and he doesn’t know what ‘emaciated’ means? On so many levels, what a complete fool!

    • @iloveschicken6527
      @iloveschicken6527 8 місяців тому +38

      Facts!

    • @stephaniesmith1086
      @stephaniesmith1086 8 місяців тому +58

      Could be in a state of shock that he isn't processing normal things. Not to defend him, but sometimes under stress people don't really comprehend. Could also be he doesn't understand how his kid could be in that condition, I mean he hadn't seen them in a year and now told this, he doesn't know how bad it is. He is a horrible father

    • @genericamerican7574
      @genericamerican7574 8 місяців тому +119

      Brigham Young University… need I say more? I would have been shocked if he didn’t act like this. They all speak with the same affect.

    • @jenscheibner792
      @jenscheibner792 8 місяців тому +9

      Doesn't care??

    • @stephaniesmith1086
      @stephaniesmith1086 8 місяців тому +83

      @@genericamerican7574 the church is also to blame, they promoted Jody, loved her, and it made others believe her and her methods. That church and all its affiliations are to blame

  • @LauPalomas
    @LauPalomas 8 місяців тому +258

    He's guilty af too. Why he's not behind bars is something I can't comprehend.

    • @raeannespears
      @raeannespears 8 місяців тому +9

      I feel like his time is coming.

    • @EpsteinsRope
      @EpsteinsRope 8 місяців тому +5

      Because he's literally not guilty otherwise he would be... derp

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 8 місяців тому +1

      because hes not guilty and you are not the law. you are protected by the law ad the family court system. you are the problem here. You are the ones who take children from the fathers. one 100 years there has not been one man who has successfully been able to get full custody of his kids in a divorce or separation matter.

    • @CarlaKay23
      @CarlaKay23 8 місяців тому

      The pos just admitted to not seeing his children for over a year yet he has seen his wife. Why hasn’t he got an attorney at the time of this video fighting for his rights to see his children? The pos speaks for itself here… also men rarely get full custody because men tend to be the majority when it comes to being selfish self centered pos who abuse and abandon. Dont like that fact?change it.

    • @Mushroom_moon_stirfry
      @Mushroom_moon_stirfry 8 місяців тому +2

      Because evidence

  • @CocoKmimi
    @CocoKmimi 8 місяців тому +418

    He cries for his grief over the loss of his family. He cries over his love for Ruby. He does not cry over the abuse his children experienced

    • @differenttakethanmost
      @differenttakethanmost 8 місяців тому +5

      He’s pretty sure she was right, he trusts her.

    • @shaft5
      @shaft5 8 місяців тому +13

      Not a single question about the kids.
      Thats pretty damning evidence.
      For a long time, I wondered why CPS did not immediately release the kids into his custody.
      Now I know why, and I agree with their initial assessment of this guy.
      Dude is a real POS.

    • @katiehenry7
      @katiehenry7 8 місяців тому

      Are the kids all with the dad right now?

    • @jedimindtrick-pi8xe
      @jedimindtrick-pi8xe 8 місяців тому

      I don't think so.

    • @nursebev2249
      @nursebev2249 8 місяців тому +1

      Because he was a part of it before he was kicked out. He knew how his kids were treated.

  • @LR-SingleMother
    @LR-SingleMother 8 місяців тому +45

    He should be charged as well. Living in the same household, and not doing anything is beyond terrifying.

  • @thomash.larsen6932
    @thomash.larsen6932 8 місяців тому +1053

    This guy participated in the abuse together with Ruby, and afterwards abandoned those kids for a whole year 😳
    Lock him up.!

    • @amyh7554
      @amyh7554 8 місяців тому +4

      Yeppppp!!

    • @kasie680
      @kasie680 8 місяців тому +5

      Know them personally do you?

    • @amyh7554
      @amyh7554 8 місяців тому +13

      @@kasie680 you would be surprised. Actually yes

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 8 місяців тому +20

      @kasie people know them from all of the videos they recorded of themselves abusing the children and bragging about it. We don’t need to know what was in their heart - we saw the abusive actions prior to them getting fueled by Jodi Hildebrandt.

    • @amyh7554
      @amyh7554 8 місяців тому

      @@basicallyno1722 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @arinaeliott5329
    @arinaeliott5329 8 місяців тому +915

    Asks about his crazy wife but not his traumatized kids. He’s just as guilty

    • @jenniferlee1410
      @jenniferlee1410 8 місяців тому +27

      Right? Says he's separated, doesn't know what they're doing for an extended period of time but is more concerned about her than the children. Sick.

    • @pennyc11
      @pennyc11 8 місяців тому

      So happy they kept kids away from him. All he cares about is getting laid.

    • @fjb3544
      @fjb3544 8 місяців тому +5

      On what grounds? What do you know about this man? He obviously has issues. But that does not make him a child abuser.

    • @hoppersdoppers
      @hoppersdoppers 8 місяців тому +15

      First thing i would've said is how are my kids. Not about his wife

    • @melissas4874
      @melissas4874 8 місяців тому +15

      He was quite in denial and being gaslit by his wife and this other woman into thinking he was a horrible person. Also, he does ask about his kids, but when they tell him what happens he doesn't believe it and says it sound like something made up. He's been told to not trust himself or his own eyes by those 2 women for years and they are always right. I guess when women are gaslit and emotionally abused we are supposed to believe it, but not men huh?

  • @sofiamaria194
    @sofiamaria194 8 місяців тому +291

    “What’s going to happen to my wife” WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS. WHAT.

    • @amym5114
      @amym5114 8 місяців тому

      FACTS!!

    • @cuestarey5565
      @cuestarey5565 8 місяців тому

      Kevin, knew exactly what was going to happen to Ruby this time. The Family had been under scrutiny for Child Abuse allegations by DCF for years, now she was caught red handed, real evidence she tortured her children.😢

  • @thesehandsart
    @thesehandsart 8 місяців тому +60

    Something WAAAAAYYYY off with Dad, he needed way too much leading in response to the children's condition. NEVER asked how the kiddos were. These poor poor children!

  • @dr.catdoga384
    @dr.catdoga384 8 місяців тому +1365

    This mf need locked up too. If he had any interest in his own children, he knew what was going on.

    • @kazshaw3945
      @kazshaw3945 8 місяців тому +15

      100% True !😠

    • @kazshaw3945
      @kazshaw3945 8 місяців тому +29

      @@virtuserable Ruby was doing this long before she met Jodi ,hence Kevin would have known and went along with it !

    • @shayshaymann113
      @shayshaymann113 8 місяців тому +23

      @@virtuserableKevin and Ruby were abusing those children wayyy before Jodi came around

    • @SunFlower-sf1go
      @SunFlower-sf1go 8 місяців тому +4

      I think that guy did fight for his kids though@@virtuserable

    • @LadyLuck13
      @LadyLuck13 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@virtuserablethe proof is in the videos he posted with Ruby on their channel. Do some research

  • @asbisi
    @asbisi 8 місяців тому +216

    It is documented: He loved humiliating his kids, laughed at them when they fell, laughed when their mother punished them. He is as sick as the two in jail.

    • @whoseturnisit9733
      @whoseturnisit9733 8 місяців тому +12

      If the law will not reprimand him for his neglect and abuse while he live with them, here is hoping the kids sue him for all the 8 passengers money. After all they were paraded and used for their monetary benefit.

  • @emmakathryn8118
    @emmakathryn8118 8 місяців тому +153

    I hope he doesn’t get the kids. They need a loving home. 😢 he’s just as nuts as Ruby.

  • @pam9231
    @pam9231 7 місяців тому +34

    Where is his concern about his starving injured son? He kept talking about how much he loved his wife but never asked if his son was going to be okay. So sad these two narcissistic parents had six children. Those children deserve better.

  • @unsocialsocialbutterfly294
    @unsocialsocialbutterfly294 8 місяців тому +2153

    “I’m not comfortable giving my address right now“ I’m not comfortable with this and that 🙄 Bro!! Your children were just found bound, beaten and starved! Wtf is wrong with you?! Kevin was right next to Ruby for years watching all her abuse! He belongs in jail right next to his wife!

    • @kittycaruso50
      @kittycaruso50 8 місяців тому +35

      Ok but the cops just told him to answer what he wanted and say he wasn't comfortable answering anything he wasn't comfortable asking. Why the cop set things up like that, idk, maybe just to keep him from sropping the interview all together. But it allowed him to dodge any tough questions

    • @VirginiaGeorge
      @VirginiaGeorge 8 місяців тому +47

      He didn’t know at that point.
      ETA Kevin did not know the state in which his children were found before this interview.

    • @Famr4evr
      @Famr4evr 8 місяців тому +59

      The children were uncomfortable their whole lives!! Dude! Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and the state your children are/were in

    • @rhondamoore1682
      @rhondamoore1682 8 місяців тому +60

      HE KNEW!!! 😡

    • @gtaylor6937
      @gtaylor6937 8 місяців тому +57

      What a weak sister this guy is! I can't even get over how pathetic an excuse he is for a father. After the condition of his son has been described to him, he can't figure out how he should feel. Uugghhhhh!

  • @madisonandthefarm
    @madisonandthefarm 8 місяців тому +282

    Abandoned 6 kids with a monster…no contact for a year…wow!

    • @paulinedye5479
      @paulinedye5479 7 місяців тому +9

      Crazy isn't it. He is a dirtbag, also...
      Sounds like Ruby made her choice to leave him for the crazy therapist. Then she continued to abuse them. All 3 involved need to go to jail for abuse...

    • @inkerikavantera
      @inkerikavantera 7 місяців тому +5

      when you're with a narc that's really the only choice.

    • @Awake-Free-CT
      @Awake-Free-CT 7 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@inkerikavanteraYou're only choice is to leave your kids with her. No. I know what I'm talking about as I've been with a narcissist, and I would have removed him from this earthly plane before leaving my kids with the creature.

  • @jenfehr1
    @jenfehr1 8 місяців тому +364

    Even after hearing the condition his son was found in.. not ONCE did he ask if that little boy was okay. My heart breaks for those children.

    • @1WFran
      @1WFran 8 місяців тому +6

      Exactly

    • @Kloetenhenne
      @Kloetenhenne 8 місяців тому +12

      I once heard a Mormon man say that people who are married are soulmates and that even the relationship with their children is below that bond. No wonder he doesn't ask about the children and tells them how he looooves his wife..

    • @suzannec8400
      @suzannec8400 8 місяців тому +3

      As an Aunt to a Nephew who is my everything I saw that to.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 місяців тому +13

      "Would I condone that behaviour. Based on that description, no, but then I don't know the details". WTF!!!
      Where's the concern, the immense worry for his children, the pain of knowing your child has been in pain, the shock, the anger at their primary caregiver for allowing that to happen?

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 8 місяців тому +5

      @@Kloetenhenne Even if his concern for his children is less than his wife - which I don't get because love is love and for me at least is immeasurable for those closest to me - where is his basic humanity an empathy when hearing about the state his desperate son was in.

  • @Beachgrl1717
    @Beachgrl1717 7 місяців тому +29

    I pray 🙏🙏 that those precious children do not get put in this mans custody.

  • @watsonspuzzle
    @watsonspuzzle 8 місяців тому +220

    He angers me so much. It was Ruby who told him to pick up the kids, but he refused to tell police it was her. He hears about the near deaths of his 2 young children, and all he cares about is if Ruby is going to be in trouble and how much he loves her. No wonder child protection services wouldn't give him his kids back. I bet they still haven't. He TOTALLY betrayed those kids. He's so weak and pathetic. He didn't even ask about the kids after he found out what happened to them. It's all about his wife and his shattered dreams. Very sad.

  • @ThatsCrazyRight
    @ThatsCrazyRight 8 місяців тому +739

    A dad who didn't check in on his kids. Disgusting.

    • @FINfinFINfinFINfin
      @FINfinFINfinFINfin 8 місяців тому +20

      That's a huge percentage of all fathers. Mine included.

    • @BrendaD72
      @BrendaD72 8 місяців тому

      Not defending him at all, but he admitted he had a p*rn addiction. She probably used that as leverage against him….like they probably threatened to out him.

    • @alondra_missi
      @alondra_missi 8 місяців тому +16

      @@FINfinFINfinFINfinTrue and same. It's a miracle some of us turned out okay being raised by stressed out and overworked single mothers.

    • @greenbananas7766
      @greenbananas7766 8 місяців тому +12

      @@FINfinFINfinFINfin In defense of many "fathers". There are too many women who use innocent children for pawns & it makes me ill. Courts have no problem letting the "father" be a bank book & won't do much for the ones that want to be in their children's lives. Then sadly, when the children grow up, they have heard nothing but garbage about father & end up having no relationship with either parent. Been there too many times.
      My soul hurts for you all. I had an awesome Pop!

    • @mindfuqq
      @mindfuqq 8 місяців тому +1

      lol he went to work everyday to pay for those kids. He did his part the mother was supposed to do hers.

  • @Monkeyshine911
    @Monkeyshine911 8 місяців тому +139

    "I've had ZERO communication about my kids in the last year."
    "You're taking my kids away from me?!" 😂😂😂

  • @ellencercone9299
    @ellencercone9299 8 місяців тому +31

    They should never get out of jail The way Ruby talks she still thinks the kids are evil So scary 😱

  • @Sunshine-fx9op
    @Sunshine-fx9op 8 місяців тому +179

    He was there when they denied Christmas for the young ones. Supposedly for not being grateful. He's a horrible father.

    • @carlynhelaine
      @carlynhelaine 8 місяців тому +12

      And when the oldest son was sleeping on a bean bag chair. And when the youngest girl forgot her lunch at home and ruby refused to bring it to her bc it was HER responsibility

    • @joannamillan8882
      @joannamillan8882 7 місяців тому +1

      That's sad 😔

    • @ellenhenderson6865
      @ellenhenderson6865 7 місяців тому +1

      @@carlynhelaineomg! Was this stuff in her videos?! How did that go on for so long? She was profiting on yt on their suffering, sounds like. Insane.

  • @LoveLeigh313
    @LoveLeigh313 8 місяців тому +328

    It makes me physically sick to think this “man” may get custody of these kids

    • @karenv5103
      @karenv5103 8 місяців тому +6

      If he isn't charged with abuse and works to support them, it's very likely he will get custody.

    • @LoveLeigh313
      @LoveLeigh313 8 місяців тому +23

      @@karenv5103 he should be charged, but I know how jacked the system is

    • @Spiritual_warrior834
      @Spiritual_warrior834 8 місяців тому +9

      I hope he doesn’t get them

    • @karenv5103
      @karenv5103 8 місяців тому +9

      @@XCBen He didn't protect his kids and there's abuse claims from before Jodi came along

    • @rosannemorkel2412
      @rosannemorkel2412 8 місяців тому +7

      Oh please no, don't let him get custody

  • @jamesreynolds2746
    @jamesreynolds2746 8 місяців тому +241

    Such an odd reaction from a dad to find that his kid was bound and starved. Emotionless and no anger at who did this.

    • @monicataussig9784
      @monicataussig9784 8 місяців тому +5

      Same thoughts🤬🤬🤬🤬

    • @princessmariposa828
      @princessmariposa828 8 місяців тому +9

      Because he already knew there was no way he couldn't have known

    • @raincadeify
      @raincadeify 8 місяців тому

      Did you miss how hard he tried to cry though? Doesn't that count for something? Poor Kevin, all these bad things are happening to him.

    • @shirleybleazard8049
      @shirleybleazard8049 8 місяців тому

      A telling word came out of the interview.

    • @nanapam6376
      @nanapam6376 8 місяців тому

      I just commented about his odd cadence. He seems high or very artificial!

  • @reen7050
    @reen7050 7 місяців тому +31

    Him not answering the question: How do you discipline your children?
    says a lot

  • @kwest5171
    @kwest5171 8 місяців тому +527

    How did he allow that cop continue talking without interrupting to ask if his boy was ok?? This guy hadn't seen his kids for a year? I hope someone other than him has them.

    • @froandcara
      @froandcara 8 місяців тому +14

      Agree! Who has them?

    • @OpalLeigh
      @OpalLeigh 8 місяців тому +38

      He failed them too. I have no sympathy for this man.

    • @blazefairchild465
      @blazefairchild465 8 місяців тому +49

      He didn’t ask about hid daughter either.

    • @elizabeth4053
      @elizabeth4053 8 місяців тому +43

      How do you sit down with officers after being told to come to the station to pick up two of your children and not ask where the two youngest are and are they okay?

    • @blazefairchild465
      @blazefairchild465 8 місяців тому +46

      Wow he doesn’t ask about the children nothing about his daughter, only says I love & trust my wife. What dork . He was told his son was emaciated, he knows what that means, he was a college professor at one time ,he asks about his wife’s feelings first not about his children’s feelings.
      He had no reason to speak to his wife about the kids in a whole year ? Wth?

  • @Morgana191
    @Morgana191 8 місяців тому +162

    Abuse has been going on in that house LONG before he left it. The entire internet saw.

    • @ballinv2452
      @ballinv2452 8 місяців тому

      if he was around there would be no ductape and locking kids in walk in safe. but they had to get rid of the dad. fatherless behavior.

    • @nathanmerritt1581
      @nathanmerritt1581 8 місяців тому +6

      @@ballinv2452 BS! he was a willing participant that got away with it!

    • @mad7fisher
      @mad7fisher 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nathanmerritt1581 I agree. This didn't just start the minute he walked out the door

  • @Time_Is_Left
    @Time_Is_Left 8 місяців тому +2331

    A child acted out in SELFISH behavior?!? Are you serious

    • @jenscheibner792
      @jenscheibner792 8 місяців тому +120

      Yeah, he/she was probably hungry...

    • @kjh6903
      @kjh6903 8 місяців тому +200

      @@jenscheibner792right !! He needs to be in jail too . The abuse was going on long before he moved out .

    • @domodomo4032
      @domodomo4032 8 місяців тому +34

      I have a 16 year old that acts out in that exact way

    • @Time_Is_Left
      @Time_Is_Left 8 місяців тому +102

      @@domodomo4032 Children are born selfish, that’s literally the only survival mechanism they have
      If your child is selfish, they either haven’t developed to that point yet, or they weren’t taught that maturity.

    • @Jay-js5ik
      @Jay-js5ik 8 місяців тому +65

      @@Time_Is_Left
      Exactly. My son is naturally very generous and is constantly thinking of others. Yet he still has some selfish tendencies. He’s 8. It’s just how they are. Parents need to teach kids how to be empathetic and giving.

  • @pamscarr8696
    @pamscarr8696 8 місяців тому +29

    Those children should NOT be with their father any more than they should be with the mother or her "friend".

  • @ana-gd6nq
    @ana-gd6nq 8 місяців тому +432

    Kevin: "Chad was acting in a selfish behavior"
    Also him: Abandoning his kids

    • @AidaShawJ.D.
      @AidaShawJ.D. 8 місяців тому +5

      🎯

    • @jenniferbyork690
      @jenniferbyork690 8 місяців тому +5

      He learned from his parents!

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 8 місяців тому

      Also Kevin / NEVER saying nuff is enough hun...ok..go get a boxing ball.

    • @Sam82631
      @Sam82631 8 місяців тому +3

      his selfish act was playing a prank on his little brother by waking him up in the middle of the night and saying he was late...for that he slept on a beanbag for months and went to wilderness

    • @conscientiousobserver8772
      @conscientiousobserver8772 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Sam82631I think it was more like a trip to Disney, made the kid pack and everything.

  • @michaelkline884
    @michaelkline884 8 місяців тому +535

    😂 “I’m not comfortable giving you my address” Dude it’s a massive child abuse investigation They know what kind of underwear you have on !

    • @billsmith9249
      @billsmith9249 8 місяців тому

      you're another example of an 'arm chair' commenter. This is happening to him in real life. He had NO IDEA (presumably) what was going on. People like you who judge police actions, suspects, etc.. from watching a video, knowing ONLY what evidence has been to released to the public, go about judging other humans for some odd reason to try to elevate yourself? Do you feel superior because you know evidence that he doesn't know at that point in history? You have some vast inferiority complex issues; you and many other commenters

    • @JasmineTanis
      @JasmineTanis 8 місяців тому +8

      Fr 😭 like ur kids got hurt WYM

    • @kittymeowc8061
      @kittymeowc8061 8 місяців тому +4

      He didn't know at this point yet where his kids were and what had happened to them

    • @mwrice45
      @mwrice45 8 місяців тому

      Bwaaahhaa, BWAAAHHAA! So right.

    • @heatherl7028
      @heatherl7028 8 місяців тому +3

      For real lol . Thats the weirdest question to not answer… Not like your address is going to be held against you .

  • @Moon-cv9wb
    @Moon-cv9wb 8 місяців тому +660

    What kind of father just leaves and never once checks up on his kids ?. He needs to be held accountable and he certainly doesn’t deserve the kids at all.

    • @Boggyboytad
      @Boggyboytad 8 місяців тому +21

      A real "Dad" would have demanded some visitation with the kids when he was invited to leave. When I left my ex I demanded to see them whenever I wanted with zero limits

    • @MrGrumpyGills
      @MrGrumpyGills 8 місяців тому +13

      Sadly, there are way too many fathers who do just that...

    • @TheBLGL
      @TheBLGL 8 місяців тому +15

      The Mormon kind.

    • @Jiorgiapeach
      @Jiorgiapeach 8 місяців тому +16

      He’s the extremely submissive type.

    • @Tricia-yf1ld
      @Tricia-yf1ld 8 місяців тому +6

      He never went to see them? Why?

  • @kimjorg
    @kimjorg 8 місяців тому +47

    The way he only thinks about Ruby and not those precious children. Heartbreaking

  • @Angelstar7774
    @Angelstar7774 8 місяців тому +262

    So he VOLUNTARILY abandoned his children for over a year

    • @april4848
      @april4848 8 місяців тому +3

      Sick

    • @xoxzarinaxox
      @xoxzarinaxox 8 місяців тому +22

      I think that he is also a victim of cult programming. I'm not saying he failed the kids, but he was brainwashed, to a degree

    • @allietaylir
      @allietaylir 8 місяців тому +7

      ruby didnt allow him to see the kids i’m pretty sure and that’s also why he didn’t know about any of what had happened

    • @pamelalansbury94
      @pamelalansbury94 8 місяців тому +8

      He needed the break you guys, he needed time and space to be a better person.
      /extreme sarcasm/

    • @shelhuff1043
      @shelhuff1043 8 місяців тому +1

      Ran off to party & porno

  • @rebbel67
    @rebbel67 8 місяців тому +299

    What I can't fathom is his (lack of) response to what the detective just told him about his son being emaciated and having duct tape around his wrists and ankles.
    No shock, no anger, no crying, no nothing.

    • @froandcara
      @froandcara 8 місяців тому +10

      It’s crazy!!!

    • @meghan3713
      @meghan3713 8 місяців тому +23

      Because he definitely saw this happen alot to the kids in the past ! 😠

    • @stephaniesmith1086
      @stephaniesmith1086 8 місяців тому +14

      He should have been charged from what he allowed Ruby to do before their seperation. He is lucky they did not discover the children gone. This mormon culture has caused all these lies and allowed them to treat their kids like this.

    • @ms.carriage6867
      @ms.carriage6867 8 місяців тому +2

      he has no paternal instinct. It's his natural response and you have a different response. That's people. Everyone is different

    • @gossipgal1418
      @gossipgal1418 8 місяців тому +19

      I don’t know maybe we’re watching two different things but he definitely had a reaction and he was very upset and shocked. I’m not saying I agree with anything that he did but at that moment he was looking pretty upset

  • @Mother_of_zebras
    @Mother_of_zebras 8 місяців тому +206

    When he said that he would not condone that treatment based on what he is being told, but he doesn’t know all the facts so he can’t say if the treatment was justified kills me. He is complacent in the treatment of the children and his older two having no contact with his says it all for me. He is an abusive parent that should never have contact with any children ever again

    • @AllyBeeB04
      @AllyBeeB04 8 місяців тому +3

      The older ones may not have contact with him because they want no contact with their mother and he is obviously brainwashed or something because he was under the impression he was getting his family back.

    • @xoch1717
      @xoch1717 8 місяців тому

      he’s a sicko. no behavior from a child would justify that abuse. there’s no excuse.

  • @sofiagomes3844
    @sofiagomes3844 7 місяців тому +25

    What kind of father wants his kids to be arrested ???

  • @genericamerican7574
    @genericamerican7574 8 місяців тому +357

    The cruelty started *_before_* they started therapy with Hildebrandt. ⚖️
    💐Those kids deserved better 🌈🌟✨

    • @froandcara
      @froandcara 8 місяців тому +12

      100% those of us who saw a few of their eight passengers knew this was really bad way before

    • @trishah2145
      @trishah2145 8 місяців тому +9

      @@froandcara correct. I saw the video that went sort of viral, when one of her youngest forgot to pack her own lunch and crazy mom told the teachers and staff to not feed her to teach a lesson. Awful awful awful. I think the little girl was in Kindergarten? Like WTH

    • @martinezanamaria26
      @martinezanamaria26 8 місяців тому +1

      Agree ☹️

    • @perpetualautumn6773
      @perpetualautumn6773 8 місяців тому +1

      Yep, he knows his kids were abused. He participated, as an active participant or by being a silent bystander.

    • @midnitdragoon
      @midnitdragoon 8 місяців тому

      What evidence do you have of his alleged cruelty 🍿🍿🍿🍿?

  • @rob-time
    @rob-time 8 місяців тому +517

    This dad isn't comfortable answering questions about his involvement in the abuse of his own children.
    His children certainly weren't comfortable with being abused by their own parents. He is a coward.

    • @macjuiceplussharesmiller4379
      @macjuiceplussharesmiller4379 8 місяців тому +11

      Trruuuth.

    • @rivkahmiri513
      @rivkahmiri513 8 місяців тому +3

      Exactly Well said.

    • @KentuckyS1960
      @KentuckyS1960 8 місяців тому +8

      But I'm reminded that he's had zero contact or discussion about his own children in over a year! GET AN ATTORNEY! FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILDREN! That's what most of us would do but these people are narcissists. Unbelievable.

    • @maryperry1773
      @maryperry1773 8 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @deborah3912
      @deborah3912 8 місяців тому +6

      spineless, he even has a purse

  • @SpandexSuperstarr
    @SpandexSuperstarr 8 місяців тому +280

    If Jodie hadn't made him leave, he would have been abusing the children with the other two

    • @komplizia
      @komplizia 7 місяців тому +6

      Exactly. As he did before he moved out.

    • @WilliamWagner-hq9ut
      @WilliamWagner-hq9ut 7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the self reveal...

    • @amyturner6275
      @amyturner6275 7 місяців тому +2

      Maybe she made him leave because he would protect them ? .
      It sounds like they didn't like male authority is what I hear . Breaking marriages and making out the men are useless. He was mayne passive and didn't speak up or even present.

    • @SpandexSuperstarr
      @SpandexSuperstarr 7 місяців тому +4

      @amyturner6275 that's not what his past behaviour and own statement show. He said in his second interview that he'd do anything Ruby asked. They withheld food and gave cruel punishments to their kids before they met Jodie. Ruby said Jodie had influenced her for only 4 years.

    • @ZachJames
      @ZachJames 7 місяців тому

      Exactly

  • @tonyfauci9963
    @tonyfauci9963 7 місяців тому +21

    When he slammed the table yelling how he works every day, likely says a lot about his psyche

  • @samanthavettel4793
    @samanthavettel4793 8 місяців тому +139

    He is remarkably calm for a man who got alerted he needed to pick up his kids from the police station. He also uses the language of Jodi; “ Honest and responsible choices.” Ruby “invited” him to leave the home etc

    • @lindalucia6334
      @lindalucia6334 8 місяців тому +3

      He sounds loaded

    • @ringbling420
      @ringbling420 8 місяців тому

      He is fixated on a woman - this is the archetype of mormon guys - all they want is a wife - and the fixate on one woman to become that wife - that wife only wants and fixates on kids so you have an endless cycle of neglect that permeates the entirety of these mormon families - they are only concerned about making sure the facade they put out looks perfect but when you dig just a little bit - you find absolute chaos. That's religion - specifically the mormon religion.

    • @Sara.Rose.
      @Sara.Rose. 8 місяців тому

      They all love to use the words “Honest” “Trustworthy” and “Truthful”

    • @sondrascheffler2500
      @sondrascheffler2500 8 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like Jodi manipulated a lotta things..

  • @amberday6108
    @amberday6108 8 місяців тому +242

    His lack of outrage and emotion when the cops tell him his child was duct taped, is proof he abused them too😢 disgusting!!!!

    • @redlocculturetalk
      @redlocculturetalk 8 місяців тому +4

      right i would have been crying so hard with anger saying my child is innocent and sweet and never felt pain. i’d be doing and saying everything

    • @nina2222
      @nina2222 8 місяців тому +1

      This

    • @n.sarahsteele2619
      @n.sarahsteele2619 8 місяців тому +5

      To me he just looks completely chocked, and in denial of what he'd just heard

    • @mr.skittletime9304
      @mr.skittletime9304 7 місяців тому +1

      Well everybody reacts differently

  • @patricesoffer8341
    @patricesoffer8341 8 місяців тому +114

    He seems like he's acting like he's clueless, but knows what was really going on

  • @susanstone3588
    @susanstone3588 7 місяців тому +31

    Even based on the fact he admitted to being addicted to pornography let alone showing no concern for his children's current situation this man should NEVER have custody of his children.

  • @MidwestLife87
    @MidwestLife87 8 місяців тому +505

    What kind of FATHER doesn’t stay involved with his minor children regardless of a separation or what Ruby requests … WEAK MAN !! SICKENING!! He is GUILTY at a minimum of NEGLECT of his minor children which then allowed them to be in physical danger !! Those kids should NEVER be in HIS or Ruby’s care EVER again!

    • @gracieblake3024
      @gracieblake3024 8 місяців тому +13

      This kind of man baby!

    • @lalasouthward
      @lalasouthward 8 місяців тому

      Mormon Church is a messed up cult and he was guilted into it or he risked losing his wife and kids if he didn't obey. They hold a lot of authority over their members. This is not just on Jodie.

    • @seansanford7684
      @seansanford7684 8 місяців тому

      A very weak, brainwashed sociopath one

    • @TheBrittbrat2341
      @TheBrittbrat2341 8 місяців тому +11

      The entire family....including her siblings and parents should ALL be under investigation!

    • @shayoway7414
      @shayoway7414 8 місяців тому +9

      So all of Jodi’s victims were “weak” men too?
      This was her specialty separating families

  • @kfervell
    @kfervell 8 місяців тому +202

    Disgusting. The fact that he asked about his wife and not his children is beyond upsetting. He does not care about his children. Also, the fact that he didn’t contact or want to contact his kids in over a year?? He needs to be locked up.

  • @williammorshead2614
    @williammorshead2614 8 місяців тому +65

    “I’m not comfortable giving my address”! The easiest thing for anyone to find out including the police. And he withholds that. This guy is a real gem.

  • @preciousgankila1547
    @preciousgankila1547 7 місяців тому +21

    Please don't give the man these kids

  • @catalinacurio
    @catalinacurio 8 місяців тому +458

    My concern is that Ruby was ignored despite many complaints, don’t make the same mistake with this so called father who was part of the abuse.

    • @shayoway7414
      @shayoway7414 8 місяців тому +4

      I guess families who Jodi abused and separatied.. oh never mind…

    • @nancydonahue4256
      @nancydonahue4256 8 місяців тому +6

      Probably also explains why he hasn’t gotten the kids back yet.

    • @becksx6568
      @becksx6568 8 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, he's used to acting for UA-cam. This is just another video for him. Pos, he is definitely complicit

    • @arykaarmitage9178
      @arykaarmitage9178 8 місяців тому +5

      I have a feeling he was into far worse abuse to these children and that is the hold she has over him for his behavior right in this interview.

    • @annewanken6288
      @annewanken6288 8 місяців тому

      Did he ever visit Ruby in jail?

  • @ChapriciousMoody
    @ChapriciousMoody 8 місяців тому +146

    Not one tear for his starved, beaten, ducktaped kids. He needs to go to jail to. What a monster.

    • @chandrad951
      @chandrad951 8 місяців тому +4

      Only worried about his wife whom he “trusts”.

    • @gryffinberner
      @gryffinberner 8 місяців тому +2

      I disagree. He is pretty upset when the police are out of the room. And in shock - disassociated. Imagine the shock of hearing all this at once after being out of the picture, I am not saying he is a responsible father or husband, just the facts. He has filed for divorce and has made many attempts to get his kids back since all this came to light

    • @jowhite4048
      @jowhite4048 8 місяців тому +3

      @@gryffinberner I disagree he’s only upset because they’ve been caught

  • @jacsfalconer1929
    @jacsfalconer1929 8 місяців тому +226

    He has absolutely no shock or rage about the cruelty to his two wee children. What loving father won't see his beloved children for a YEAR......... A shining example of a guttless wonder.

    • @debbiemohekey1509
      @debbiemohekey1509 7 місяців тому +2

      He seems more worried about how he is going to get out of all of this trouble rather than the trouble itself. I feel he is trying to act concerned, rather than being genuinely concerned.

    • @jacsfalconer1929
      @jacsfalconer1929 7 місяців тому

      @@debbiemohekey1509 He's like a cornered rat looking for an escape route. The truth will always eventually be known.

  • @GaiaNaVi
    @GaiaNaVi 7 місяців тому +16

    He doesn’t ask about the physical condition of his kids when the police give him an opportunity. I'm absolutely horrified. Those poor children, i hope he doesn't get custody.

  • @tinajack444
    @tinajack444 8 місяців тому +228

    It is so creepy to see how cold he is. He doesn‘t seem mentally „normal“, something is wrong with this guy

    • @agak61
      @agak61 8 місяців тому +14

      Yep or he is playing one. Narcissistic behavior. Scary

    • @SchoolHouseRudd
      @SchoolHouseRudd 8 місяців тому +7

      He was so much livelier on earlier videos of 8 passengers. This guy is cold.

    • @caseyconatser7926
      @caseyconatser7926 8 місяців тому +5

      Agreed
      But I got to thinking these people got so use to being ON all the time making videos and preparing for them that he could still believe he is ON if you know what I mean .

    • @thepearlswirl
      @thepearlswirl 8 місяців тому +5

      Exactly my thoughts.. seriously so creepy and weird how he responded to the news.

    • @MyAngels5
      @MyAngels5 8 місяців тому +6

      It's the Mormon way...IMO

  • @rhodadutoit1747
    @rhodadutoit1747 8 місяців тому +173

    All I actually ever needed to know about this guy is that the boy didnt ask the neighbour to call his father. It is clear this POS would not have rushed to save him. The poor boy knew that. It is heartbreaking

    • @arielgaede3673
      @arielgaede3673 8 місяців тому +5

      To be fair, the kid was old enough to know the neighbor wouldn't have his number and the kid probably didn't know it himself. I haven't memorized a single phone number in probably 15 years thanks to smart phones.

    • @keke8880
      @keke8880 8 місяців тому +19

      ​@arielgaede3673 Sure, but he didn't say "I need someone to get my dad" either

    • @arielgaede3673
      @arielgaede3673 8 місяців тому +5

      @@keke8880 Also very fair

    • @reneealese01
      @reneealese01 8 місяців тому +5

      I read that Russell didn't go to the neighbour's to call police on his mum. He wanted to be dropped to a police station so he could go to jail himself, as his mum kept telling him he had the devil in him and he believed he was a bad kid 😢

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower 8 місяців тому +448

    I hope that the oldest daughter gets custody. This ‘dad’ should not have custody, only supervised visitations.

    • @frauschuhstiefel2594
      @frauschuhstiefel2594 8 місяців тому +61

      Not sure about that. She seems to have reconsiled with Kevin and is still in touch with her aunts (who seem to have simillar opinions about how to raise kids). Sometimes it's safer for kids to be raised outside their biological family to allow them to heal...

    • @ting1565
      @ting1565 8 місяців тому +43

      Although she is legally an adult, she is still a child.

    • @Lilleybugglane
      @Lilleybugglane 8 місяців тому +6

      She's not as innocent in this while thing as you may think... if you watched the videos... you know 🇺🇸

    • @kathleenschoultz
      @kathleenschoultz 8 місяців тому +29

      NO. Sherrie may be an adult but she is still young and need to focus on herself. Not to take care of her siblings

    • @ChrisCarlin-is8wv
      @ChrisCarlin-is8wv 8 місяців тому

      @@Lilleybugglane she was groomed by her mother and that other bish. She grew up with this abuse, she’s not to blame for what adults planted in her head.

  • @Fonoyb
    @Fonoyb 7 місяців тому +8

    It saddened and angered me when the "Father" asked about how his wife was BEFORE he asked about his Children!

  • @PatriciaAllen-dn7ix
    @PatriciaAllen-dn7ix 8 місяців тому +184

    Why doesn't he ask how his children are doing?

    • @colleenpeck6347
      @colleenpeck6347 8 місяців тому +10

      He's self-absorbed!

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 8 місяців тому +4

      He isn't bothered is why. My mother and father allowed their friends kid to kcause me bodily harm writing it off as kids stuff. I couldn't walk for two sprained ankles and a cut that needed stitches (though I didn't get taken, just bandaged), winded couldn't breathe. They stayed friends still. Some parents don't care about how their kids suffer. Like his wife, they just care about how things look, the 'perfect' family. My father wouldn't even get me water when I had broken my ankle in another incident. This guy cares about himself and shouldn't have had kids. This is a performance and definitely not Oscar winning

    • @e.k.4508
      @e.k.4508 8 місяців тому

      ​@@bereal6590I'm so sorry you had to experience this abuse and above all, no support at all from your parents

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 8 місяців тому

      @@e.k.4508 thank u very much, I was just tying to say that there is so much goes on small and large and it's really bad for kids and imo how kids are should be high priority for our health as a society. I'm really quite touched by your kindness and thoughtfulness, thank you and wherever you are in the world have a lovely weekend 😊

    • @garfield2439
      @garfield2439 8 місяців тому +2

      Because he does not care. He didn't bother to contact them in over a year even though he knew what his wife is like. Despicable

  • @jeanettebrown4039
    @jeanettebrown4039 8 місяців тому +114

    He hasn’t even talked to his kids on the phone? Why not? Something is strange with this.

  • @hpNerd0003
    @hpNerd0003 8 місяців тому +107

    I sincerely hope no judge gives him custody. He clearly does not care for his own children.

  • @tania_0rt3ga
    @tania_0rt3ga 7 місяців тому +7

    Him saying he doesn’t know how Ruby disciplines or deals with behaviors with the kids is one of his biggest lies.

  • @Falkon952
    @Falkon952 8 місяців тому +150

    "No human being should be treated like that. That's my thoughts but we might differ on that..." Dude was letting him know exactly what he thought right there.

  • @DOUBLLWorld
    @DOUBLLWorld 8 місяців тому +520

    So he respects Jodi, trusts her and thinks she’s the most honest person in the whole world, but his own son is cruel and mean??!!!! WTF why is this man not in jail too? How could he not care at all about his children for one freaking year!

    • @staybent9380
      @staybent9380 8 місяців тому +30

      Exactly. He needs to face charges

    • @rebeccabaron1348
      @rebeccabaron1348 8 місяців тому +17

      Yes!!! He is just as guilty as she is. He better do some time!

    • @kamencic
      @kamencic 8 місяців тому +3

      Exactly

    • @JudithBisson
      @JudithBisson 8 місяців тому +6

      Wow, he was told to stay away so he did. Should he have not, yes but he didn’t do anything and is going to get his children back.

    • @MummyBrown
      @MummyBrown 8 місяців тому +12

      I can’t imagine why they would grant him custody after all of this.

  • @lizg833
    @lizg833 8 місяців тому +280

    Oh now he wants to get his kids. What about all the months you didn’t check on them to let them get to this point Kev? Huh?

    • @bewitched3912
      @bewitched3912 8 місяців тому +26

      Kevin wants Jodie's money from the sale of her home

    • @lizg833
      @lizg833 8 місяців тому +1

      @@bewitched3912 and he also tried to press charges on his oldest daughter so it’s hard for me to trust him

    • @lizg833
      @lizg833 8 місяців тому +17

      @@virtuserable I did watch the Mormon stories podcast w Adam. I do try and take that into consideration. However, Kevin was on the 8passengers channel abusing those kids a long time before the separation. I would wager to say (and this is my opinion I could be wrong) that he has a predilection for not caring for the kids in a loving & fatherly capacity so abandoning them is not outside the scope of what he could’ve done. I hope this makes sense

    • @carlaperkins655
      @carlaperkins655 8 місяців тому +6

      @virtuserable I have similar feelings about these parents. I think the public way they lived their lives just makes it harder to understand but the facts of this case are bizarre. There are family cultures out there that we know nothing about.

    • @annamariavalatka636
      @annamariavalatka636 8 місяців тому

      I know!?