This ending didn't have to be a cliffhanger. That can just be the ending of the franchise, evil continues to live on but in other people and there's no killing it no matter what you do.
@@scp-507 ok, but we don't have any resolution. Did Hawkins confess to shooting His partner and if you don't wanna explain that then the flashback was meaningless
@@andrewebb3283I think it was meant to motivate his intention to kill Myers along with the other people of Haddonfield he terrorized. That's the payoff.
One thing that still bothers me about the ending is that no one seems to care nor is anyone surprised that Corey was wearing the mask. Laurie didn't know Corey was under the mask when she shot him. She had little to no reaction that it was him instead of Michael. Allison didn't even stop to process that Corey was wearing coveralls, covered in blood and the mask was on the floor beside him. Not how I'd have handled this part of the film but I really enjoyed Ends and the chance they took on it.
@@scp-507 true but she had zero idea that Corey had the mask. She knew Michael was still out there despite being over it. Then a person wearing Michaels mask and very similar coveralls shows up in her house and she looks directly at him before shooting him. There's no way she could have instantly thought that was Corey or anyone else under the mask. No one else has ever gone after her while wearing that mask other than Michael. Nor was there any rumor or speculation that a copycat was out there.
I'm really digging this channel's focus on reevaluating "bad" movies. I've been an apologist for Zombie's Halloween 2 and Southland Tales for a long time. Love those movies. And there is so little analysis of Southland Tales out there, it's really cool to see.
I hate Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 with a fiery passion. It's literally my least favorite movie of all time. However, I respect your opinions and differences in tastes. I also really enjoyed Halloween Ends. I think as a standalone movie it works well, its just kind of a bad ending to this trilogy.
@@MisterSouji thanks. I plan on redoing my Halloween 2 video eventually because I hate it and I had no idea what I was doing. But it’s genuinely one of my favorite movies ever.
@markmac2206 I struggled to finish it the first time. Like, I get the characters are meant to make you uncomfortable and be unpleasant to watch. And it works. But that's not what I want. I always loved the original Halloween because it was terrifying by being subtle and atmospheric.
I heard there was at least one ending where Allison shot Corey out an upstairs window like in the original Halloween and Corey disappeared into the night just like Michael did but I don't know if it was filmed or not!
Wow out of three endings discussed, 1 - your ideal ending 2- the ending we got 3 - alternate ending. It would be interesting to hear more about the novelization, it may help me appreciate this film more.
How does one know what’s happened in any house, that was previously owned? Just because it wasn’t news, or reported, doesn’t mean heinous shit hasn’t happened there. It’s usually a specific type of murder or crimes, that tend to make a house difficult to rent or sell. Kid, stabbing his sister to death, who still lives at the local institution for the criminally insane? Yeah, I don’t want to live there.
Thanks for the video. I really liked the unexpected path DGG took with Ends, but yes, not sure it was the way the wrap up the timeline. I know i am somewhat in the minority but my son and i love Kills and saw it 5x in theaters. The brutality of MM along with the score far outweighed the drag of the hospital scenes. I will say that the Ends we got didnt deliver on the iconic scenes such as Michael putting his mask on at the gas station in '18, emerging from the gun closet through the fire, or putting his mask back on to square up against the locals in Kills, that i could watch 100x and still get that rush of adrenaline and excitement. The closest it came was MM appearing in the Dr house and killing the nurse. The alternative book ending you mentioned sounded very intersting. Also, the one i just saw in the comments with Allison shooting Cort out the window and then disappearing. After all, we dont know what death is..... Anyway, you gained a new subscriber.
I think Halloween ends is what would have happened with Jamie Lloyd had they went that direction. Corey had that innocent Jamie Lloyd vibe in the early stages of the film. I believe Michael gave the remainder of his power to Corey before he snapped his neck.
Interesting theory but I totally disagree with the Jamie comparison. I didn't get that vibe from Cory at all. And I honestly found him unlikable from the beginning. Actors portrayal didn't help and Danielle Harris did so much better making the audience empathize and root for her character even as a child actress. Corey is a terrible character.
Really dug hearing Shatter at the beginning of your video! I absolutely love Bray Wyatt and Code Orange so as soon as I heard it I knew it’d be a great video, and I am not disappointed. Absolutely great video, man!!
To be honest, I don't think this ending works for me. Plus, I would go by this kill count with a few changes, including this ending I made. Here's 10 examples of changes. 1. Have Michael Myers be supernatural and less weak. 2. Add all the deleted scenes into the movie. 3. Add Laurie's reaction to Karen's death and having trouble moving on from the inside. 4. Have Allyson not forget that Michael killed her parents. 5. Remove Sondra from the movie and have her actually die in Halloween Kills. 6. Instead of Corey stealing Michael's mask, he uses his scarecrow mask to become his own version of The Shape and continues to help Michael regain more of his strength. 7. Michael keeps the same rusty knife he pulled out in the sewers and uses it on Halloween night (2022). 8. Have the final showdown between Michael and Laurie longer than 5 minutes and add a showdown between Corey and Allyson. 9. After killing Doug, Michael is no longer staying in the sewers. 10. Mash up both themes of Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends. 11. Remove the plot armor Laurie had in the final showdown. *Halloween (2018, during Halloween Kills)* Jeremy Allen: accidentally killed by Corey Cunningham *November 1st (2018, after Halloween Kills)* Ozzy: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Hugo: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *November 1st (2018)* Little girl: infected by Michael's evil to kill her abusive father, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Halloween (2019)* Ryan Couper: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Kimberly Hart: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Halloween (2020)* Meredith: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Halloween (2021)* 2 teenage graffiti artists: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *2022* After being dragged in the sewers by Nelson Christopher, Corey encounters Michael and gets infected by his evil. *Sewers - This morning...* Nelson Christopher: killed by Corey Cunningham *Sewers - This night...* Doug Muleny: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Dr. Mathis' house* Dr. Tanner Mathis: killed by Corey Cunningham Deb Jennings: pinned to the wall, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 As Allyson and Corey embrace each other at the radio station. Unoticed by Allyson, Corey sees Laurie in her truck as she watches them. Unnoticed by Corey, Allyson sees Michael under a tree as he stalks her and his "protege". *Halloween (2022)* During the gas station scene, Michael stalks Corey and the bullies before following them to the junkyard. *Junkyard* Billy: killed by Corey Cunningham Stacy: killed by Corey Cunningham Ronald Prevo: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Terry Tramer: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Margo: killed by Corey Cunningham *Radio Station* Susan (Radio Receptionist): impaled to the wall, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Willy the Kid: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Corey's house* Joan Cunningham: killed by Corey Cunningham Michael arrives at Velkovsy's and stalks Lindsey Wallace and Frank Hawkins. He notices Danny McBride taking a crap at the side of the bar. Michael attacks him as he turns Danny around, stabbing him in the stomach and twisting his knife around it as he begins to bleed out. Lindsey hears screaming outside as she goes out to investigates. She finds Danny dead at the side of the bar. Suddenly appearing, Michael attacks Lindsey as they begin to have a showdown once again like in Halloween Kills. Michael gets the upper hand and kills Lindsey. Frank goes outside and sees Lindsey lying dead on the floor. He looks back up to see Michael standing above her. Michael does recognize him from 1978 and 2018. Frank pleads to Michael about his partner McCabe being killed by accident, realizing long ago that he should've let Loomis kill him in 1978. Referencing Loomis trying to shoot Michael in Halloween 4, Frank shoots at Michael, but he's already gone. *Velkovsy's* Danny David: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 Lindsey Wallace: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 *Elsewhere...* Theresa Allen: killed by Corey Cunningham At his demolished home, Michael stalks 7th graders who are dressed up as him. They want to summon Michael Myers to get rid of the people that were mean to them. Michael does appear as he stands where his sister's bedroom once stood, stalking the 7th graders. As a few cops arrive, they tell him Michael Myers was here, but he's already gone. Laurie's house - *The Older Generation (Michael Myers vs Laurie Strode) & the Newer Generation (Corey Cunningham vs Allyson Nelson)* Corey Cunningham: shot twice by Laurie Strode, shot 4 times in the chest and a 5th time in the head and fell out of the window of Laurie's office, killed by Allyson Nelson Michael Myers: "killed" by Allyson Nelson Laurie Strode: injured by Michael Myers, killed by Allyson Nelson due to her granddaughter being infected by Michael's evil Allyson Nelson: infected by Michael's evil to kill Laurie, injured by Michael Myers 🎃🔪 After killing Corey, Allyson goes downstairs as she goes over to find her grandmother dying. Approaching Allyson from behind, Michael turns her around as he chokes her, infecting her with his evil. As Michael hands her his knife, Allyson looks down at her dying grandmother as Laurie pleads for her to not kill her. She then says "Evil will never die... It changes shape...". Allyson slits Laurie's throat, killing her grandmother. As Allyson turns to Michael, he takes the knife and stabs her in the stomach. As he looks down at Allyson, he raises his knife before hearing sirens. After Michael leaves the house, Frank, Sheriff Barker, and the cops arrive as they find Laurie and Corey dead. They found Allyson still alive as they took her outside to treat her wounds. She looks over to Corey dead on the grass before being taken to the hospital. Frank approaches Allyson if she's alright. She says nothing with no emotion. Michael's heavy breathing is heard everywhere in Haddonfield before the screen cuts to black as the Halloween theme plays and the credits roll.
Lori should have been pulled through the shredder by Michael while everyone watched in horror and her granddaughter screaming while Michael’s mask lay on the ground in front of everyone end credits!
Another fantastic piece of work bru! I'm still split on the film personally and I'm not sure the alternate ending would have changed that but your suggestion that Corey is missing following the nights events would have been a perfect thread to leave unresolved.
@@jeremy-caesarI like it too but it just needs narrative streamlining to be a perfect book end. That being said I do agree that Cory could've been hinted to become the nee evil
Hello. I’m new here. The quick reviews are always a good choice when you want to quickly get your ideas out. Enjoyed the video and the alternate ending ideas !
Nice explanation. Here's what could have been a neat idea too. Make this movie take place the same night as the other two, the ending happens the same way. Laurie kills Michael in the kitchen and they grind him up or burn him to ashes. Laurie keeps his mask, she has her happy ending in the house. We then jump ahead one year or two, have the Corey babysitting kill the same way and then have his spiral to evil due to society calling him the NEW Michael. He can still fall for Allison. And have that romance. The bullies still treat him had and he's conflicted with darkness. Just remove his connection to Michael in the sewers. He grabs Michael's mask from Laurie's house at some point when he is with Allison. Make everything else the same. You can even have him kill himself at the end too if you want. Or he gets sent to Smiths Grove, just like Michael did. Laurie still has the sheriff and writes her book, and Allison still leaves Haddonfield. It starts an all new generation. I think they just needed to rearrange the movie and it would have worked a lot better.
I’m not. His “evil” was based on him accidentally killing a kid. Michael deliberately killed his sister Judith Myers. Just not a good predecessor for Michael
Fun idea for the ending. For me, I never took Corey as pure evil, just a situational evil, much in the same way of Rob Zombie's Michael. I imagine the final line about the evil transferring over is about some other 6 year old boy somewhere in the world but I also do like the idea of it just being gone. I also do love the finality of that ending but I kind of expected Michael to grab Laurie's leg and drag her down with him at the end lol. All this to say: good video, too much of Ends' conversation has been shrouded by negativity so this was great to watch.
I'm a huge fan of the alternate (very well fan-made) ending where the last shot you see is Michael's mask but it ends with the style & music of Halloween iii, implying that it's...one of those evil masks from that factory that's been controlling Michael the whole time. Yeah, I get that H3 is no longer cannon, but still, would've made for, in my opinion, one of the best twists ever.
I liked Halloween Ends, I did like that Laurie did had a good ending and I liked the themes of what the movie had and I liked how much of Michaels impact had over Haddonfield. The movie isn't perfect and it has some issues but I don't think it's bad. The alternative ending of Laurie becoming evil does remind me of this Spoilers for Halloween #3 the devil's eyes comic - Laurie is revealed to have became Michael Myers. It happens after the events of issue #2 of the Chaos Halloween comic "The Blackest Eye's" and H20. After she kills Michael she became obsessed and became Michael Myers and even kept his head as some trophy and made it like a jack O Lantern.
How I would have ended ENDS, is to have Laurie and Myers have a chase at the junkyard, to which they climb onto the shredder and Myers is somehow knocked in, getting pulverized with the mask on. We see Myers put the mask back on before this, so no tricky H20 crap. After that, we see Laurie at home, writing her novel, her narration, Fear The Reaper music begins to play over her narration, and we cut to another state, town, where a killer is on the loose. Music keeps playing, Laurie keeps narrating. We cut to the new town where everyone is panicking about this new killer, and then cut to an abandoned farm house. A man or woman is tending to the fields, climbs out of their tractor, and walks into the farm. Reaper tune keeps playing, and the farmer opens the large farm door, hears a creaking sound, turns and bam, the new killer is right there and yanks the farmer out of frame. Cut to black, Reaper song lyrics begin over credits.
Nice video. Ok…so my thoughts on Ends have changed. I initially said the movie should not exist, was a slap in the face to the true fans, and is an abomination to the franchise. I stand by that it’s a slap in the face given it’s placement in the “trilogy” or “quadrilogy” but I’ll take back the abomination and shouldn’t exist parts. However….this movie as is should absolutely 100% not have been the finale to these particular installments. You can keep ALMOST all elements to this movie, but the ending that I wanted was Corey DEAD, Laurie DEAD, Alyson DEAD, and yes, Michael DEAD. My ending was the kitchen fight scene but obviously longer and more brutal….my changes….Laurie, while hiding in the pantry, grabs a mason jar of home grown jarred “ghost” peppers that Lindsey brought over earlier in the movie and slams it in Michael’s face breaking the jar. Michael is now temporarily blinded by the pepper juice and glass shards and holding his face. Laurie takes the remainder of sharp, broken jar in her hand and stabs it into Michael’s face/cheek area. Michael stumbles back and slowly, and seemingly painlessly removes the jar from his face. No longer blinded, the fight is ON. Michael severely injures Laurie in multiple ways, slamming her, breaking her nose, stabbing her, choking her, and Laurie delivers damage to Michael as well. Michael sustains multiple stab wounds during this fight, bleeding profusely. Michael keeps coming though. So does Laurie, even though she has taken so much damage. Like in the original, Alyson comes back, enters the fight, saves her grandmother but Michael bests her as well, killing her in a blurry manner with a camera view that is from Laurie’s POV, but not before Laurie can deliver one last knife to Michael…in his femoral artery. Michael then kills Laurie as she gazes upon Alyson’s lifeless body by putting his boot on her throat and pressing down slowly, almost as a mercy killing as she is obviously dying from the battle damage.. Michael, breathing heavily, pulls the knife out of his leg. We see blood GUSHING from his leg. He exits the house. Halloween theme starts. Camera follows him slowly walking down the street. A Blood trail and bloody footprints follow until Michael sits down on a random bench on a haddonfield sidewalk as he lays the knife down beside him. Music stops. We see his blood pooling up around his leg on the sidewalk. We now not only hear the breathing but we SEE his warm breath just a tad in the cool night air until….the breathing suddenly stops and so does the visual of the breath. After some time, Police arrive after seeing what they think is someone who’s had too much to drink on Halloween night only to see the blood and realize hat it is indeed the one and only Michael Myers. One cop thinks he’s dead, stating he’s not breathing (h2 homage). The other cop says “hey, don’t you remember 2018?!” The other cop “well yeah, and?” Then, after a brief pause, the other cop says “so we’re not taking anymore chances with this motherfcker. This is for haddonfield”. The camera catches a quick glimpse of Officer TRAMER’s name plate as he points, aims, and shoots the already seemingly dead Michael Myers in the side of the head. His lifeless body falls to the ground in a pool of his own blood and brain matter, even more blood now spewing from his head. Halloween theme resumes as the camera zooms in on his blown out , bloody mask/head. Michael IS DEAD. They are ALL dead. End credits.
For my ideal ending for Halloween Ends, we would see Laurie in her study after she forces Allison to leave Haddonfield for her safety as the evil is slowly taking over. As she finishes writing her memoir, we see a revolver on the desk, positioned next to her laptop. Upon completing her final sentence, Laurie takes the gun and places it directly at herself. At that moment, we see Laurie weep while hearing her breathe heavily under pressure. She is committed into ridding the evil by any means, even if she has to do the unthinkable. The camera zooms in on her teary eyes, and there we see her pupils as they begin to dilate, with her heavy breathing slowly turning deep and slow, akin to how Michael breathes under the mask. And as the scene cuts to black, we suddenly hear the sound of a gun shot
My head canon he becomes a new shape for the town in a similar vein to Michael. Personally I always like the whole"The more things change the more they also stay the same" endings
There's so much about ENDS that I love. Overall, it's a messy movie with lots of great ideas, performances, themes. When Corey dies I usually turn the movie off. I would have preferred as soon as Michael is dropped in the grinder Corey sits up as we've seen Michael sit up in the original next to the bed. Corey is now The Shape. oh, and I hate the idea of Laurie becoming the Shape.
I really enjoyed the first one (2018), because it felt like a much needed grounding after years of sequels going further and further off the rails. Then Halloween kills gets off to a good start only to start jumping sharks right and left towards the end. I will consider 2018 a good sequel to the original, and can happily forget about the rest
Unfortunately the Halloween franchise has long been assailed with bad box office results when directors try to go off script and test new ideas. Now one could argue allot of the previous ideas were so poor, they deserved their fate. But here we have one that at least challenges that assessment, yet the results remain the same. Diehard fans will always seek out the hidden novel in these films. But what makes these movies work is the general public coming along. Unfortunately they're usually only present for the anniversary installments that retell the same story all over again. Anticipate that to replay in 2028 for the 50th.
In any event, great video, thanks so much for sharing and I definitely can't wait for the one that you have planned for Halloween Kills in October, great stuff and thanks again, take care for now 🎃🎃🔪🔪
i heard that there was an unused ending where michael (weakened) fights laurie, while corey at his full power fights allyson, laurie kills michael and goes to the other fight just as allyson is about to lose, she saves her by shooting corey six times, making him fall from the 3rd/2nd floor of the house, just like in the original film, and then showing that corey is gone, in my opinion this is a great ending to the franchise, similar to halloween 4, michael dies, but his evil lives on, but this time it actually makes him even scarier, as this confirms that the whole trilogy was his masterplan, he had his moment of full power in halloween kills, and then he knew he would naturally die, so he purposely picked corey as his sucessor, iniciating an endless cycle of evil, so we have laurie finally getting rid of michael, but also michael still being scary and his evil still being present
I haven't got an alternate ending. I actually like the movie as is well enough. For many reasons. It's not how I would have made it. But considering I expected to hate it and....didn't lol...I can't complain much. But ideally (IMO) it should have gone one of two ways. Either Michael Myers isn't in it AT ALL....not alive at least. Or it should have tied directly and deeply into Season of the Witch. Option 1: The film opens with Michael killing Karen like at the end of Kills. And instead of vanishing into the night...he crawls off to the sewer and dies from the wounds the mob gave him. He's dead but his legend is larger than ever. Corey accidentally kills the kid...becomes an outcast...and then gets bullied and beat up on the regular and finds Michael's mummified corpse in the sewer while hiding from his tormentors. Then he takes the mask and strikes back at the people who are making his life hell. Eventually crossing paths with Laurie who he ends dying in a confrontation with. She takes the body and puts him in the grinder with the mask on...killing Michael's legacy because the town would think it was the real Michael Myers while also nipping the Shape's next incarnation in the bud. It would also make Kills that little bit less silly because evil DID in fact die that night lol. Option 2: Opens with Michael killing Karen again, just like the end of Kills. Cut to Laurie and Allyson leaving the Haddonfield hospital when Michael appears to kill them to when Tom Atkins character from Season of the Witch rolls up in a truck like Kyle Reese and blasts Michael with a shotgun who then promptly gets back up. They have to go destroy Silver Shamrock like Skynet because it's sending the Kill signal to Michael's mask. Cue flashback scene to 1962. Young Michael Myers is at home. His parents worked at Silver Shamrock but are now trying to expose them. They have some of the mask chips, which Michael finds. The chip compels him to kill his sister. This original plan is abandoned by Silver Shamrock because it doesn't cause every child to kill...only the ones who are predisposed to kill already. Then in 1978, Michael returns to his old house to retrieve another chip for his new mask. Then you can get awesome scenes back in 2018 of Michael stalking Laurie, Allyson and Tom Atkins through the dark corridors of the Silver Shamrock factory...maybe Michael could even kill a few of those robot assassins from Season of the Witch. It could have been really rad! Lots of missed opportunities but I still don't hate Ends as is..
I know there are already a few other versions to the ending to Halloween Ends, including the survival of Michael Myers and not Laurie Strode, that being said, it doesn't matter whet ending happened in regards to Halloween Ends, and there even is a satisfying ending for most at this point, including what I have seen personally from the film, no matter what, wether Michael lives or dies physically, his darkness will forever reign over the town of Haddonfield, especially during Fall/Autumn and it will always be Michael's home, it's just too bad that so many innocent people lost their lives to this darkness that was always destined for this town 🎃🎃🎃🎃🔪🔪🔪🔪
I was extremely disappointed with Halloween ends, after what had gone before...becoming more powerful everytime he kills and then to see him like an old hobo in the sewer did not do it for me. Too much of the film focused on Cory and not Michael, i wanted the finale to be full of dread and atmosphere like the original and then for Laurie to say he is not the boogeyman...he is a man, undid all the mystery and myth of Michael as he no longer seemed the unstoppable superhuman juggernaut we love...a missed opportunity i thought.
When she said evil never dies she meant and knew Allyson was pregnant with evil growing inside of her Laurie will have to fight more demons with Allyson as a new evil
I still think Corey is alive. That could still happen after Michael was incinerated he came back to life. They could continue this with Corey and Allison who is carrying Corey's child.
That's all well and good that the Evil inside Michael Myers passes on to others by looking into his eyes and being around him but there is no indication of this since Halloween 1978, Loomis said: "I met this six-year-old child, with this blank, pale…emotionless face and, the blackest eyes... the DEVIL'S eyes! I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply... EVIL!" Oh Loomis didn't become evil then nor the rest of Smith's Grove Sanitarium? They had two movies before HW Ends to try and bring this idea of passing on the evil and they failed in my opinion. This Myers doesn't even act like the original, 78 Myers set people up then kills them, very smart and methodical. Halloween Ends the love story!
Hi, is this UA-camr: Jeremy Caesar? If so, are you available to chat with one of your biggest fans on your channel if you have any spare time? I’d would like to ask you a question if it’s alright with you?
@@jeremy-caesar Hi, Jeremy. My name is Logan Hayes, and I’ve been a huge fan of your channel for quite some time, and I was wondering if I could ask you a question possibly if it’s alright with you from me?
Mr. Narrator, the line, "Evil doesn't die..." is true. Nothing ever dies, as in concludes. Everything, even our thoughts, are energy. Energy and matter are one in the same. It never ends. It changes form, no matter what the end to the movie is. But on a more practical note, that theme is visited throughout the movie, when Laurie is confronted and told that the killings of the last two movies are because of Laurie's Boogeyman, that the events in the town this time around is because the town needed a new scapegoat since Michael Myers has gone. The theme gets revealed several times in Halloween Ends, how Evil will influence others and sometimes turn others evil. That is what I think is meant by "Evil Never Dies." It's also a callback to the lame chant in Halloween Kills(which is a stupid title, btw)
Like you I enjoyed Halloween Ends. I love when movies try to deviate form the norm. Sadly it didn't quite stick the landing and I still have issues with it even after all this time. Corey is one of them. This would have hit a bit better if, like the novel, we had build up for him. Give the audience more info dump on who he is and give a reason why he is so susceptible to the evil would have made the movie flow a bit better. Allison is issue I had but that is another topic entirely.
I still maintain that Michael should not have been in this movie. It should have been all Corey. Laurie shouldn’t have found out who was under the mask until the scene at the metal grinder at the end. She should have been under the impression that she had killed Michael, but when she casts his body into the grinder, the mask should have snagged on something and revealed Corey’s face to Laurie. That way it makes sense for her to believe that evil never truly days (the mask escaped the grinder), it just changes shape (because it wasn’t Michael under the mask.) The whole time she is doing that ending monologue, the camera would be a pov shot of someone walking to the metal grinder and putting on the mask, but no confirmation of who it is. This would have still given Laurie her ending without screwing over Michael. It would fully establish Corey as the new Michael whilst showing his replacement at the end. Haddonfield always needs a man in a mask, even if it’s not Michael or Corey. Fans would be left wondering what happened to Michael after Kills and if this series ever gets a sequel following Jamie Lee’s exit from the series, they can just run it as Michael getting his mask back and going from there. As it stands, Ends has a terrible ending that satisfies no one
How about they bring the movie back with the opening scene of the night that Michael died Corey being placed into the ambulance and he sit up like Michael in the body bag…..
I respectfully disagree, I liked the ending as it was. I feel like had they gone with the ending in the book, it would have came across as too sensational and a touch ridiculous. Laurie was damaged but she wasn't evil. the 'evil doesn't die, it changes shape' was reflected in how Michaels evil infected Corey.
and in another decade or two they'll retcon this trilogy for a new one to try and unshit the bed again. this trilogy started out strong with halloween 2018 but lost their bearings with Kills then full on tubgrilled with Ends
I’m happy for anyone who was able to enjoy the film so I’m like very happy for y’all but personally even if it had been advertised correctly I still wouldn’t have liked it it made no sense to do this in the last film of the trilogy I think the idea was good but the way they did it in my opinion was terrible and cringe. Plus I just don’t think this is something you do at the end of a trilogy that had two earlier films that felt connected but have this one that in my opinion doesn’t feel connected but I am very happy for people who liked this film I hold nothing against people who liked it
Agreed. I feel like this would’ve been considered a great horror film if it wasn’t connected to the Halloween franchise. Seeing Michael Myers get bullied by a guy who was bullied by a marching band was worse than Busta Rhymes kicking his a** in Halloween Resurrection. Just awful
We should NOT have to read the novel to get the full story; it's up to the filmmakers of this piece of crap movie to tell their story right and make sure that the audience enjoys it. Like, don't start a new trilogy without a properly mapping out the Beginning, Follow-Up and Ending, instead of making it up as you go. I honestly hate that crap.
my opinion is nobody doesn't matter who wears the mask but if it's not Michael Myers I don't want to watch a movie about Halloween supposed to be Michael Myers with somebody else in the mask
Halloween ends is TRAAASSSHHH! One of the worst Halloween movies ever! They made michael so weak. Its a slap in the face to fans who love Michael Meyers!
What song was that in the beginning of the video? It sounds familiar. The movie would have been better IF Micheal's power was passed on to that nerd, can't remember his name. This movie just sucked.
I don’t think having both Michael and Corey die and the line “Evil doesn’t die, it changes shape” is a contradiction. There’s still evil out in the world that can manifest in different forms that doesn’t have anything to do with Michael. I’m also not a fan of Laurie being infected with evil at the end because that’s too literally supernatural for my tastes. Laurie has a pure heart so her becoming evil just because she looked into Michael’s eyes is going too far in my opinion. I’m fine with Corey turning evil because we aren’t sure if he was destined to be evil or if society made him that way, or if it’s a combination of both. I think that type of ambiguity ties in nicely with the original Halloween.
I think the ending works as this trilogy has been a commentary on trauma in the age of Me Too so I like that is shows people can have happiness and a life outside of the worst thing that ever happened to them, especially as someone who has experience with that subject
Halloween officially ends for me in 1981 when Michael’s doctor blows him up in HMH. David Gordon Green sucks as a director, should be banned from touching any other horror franchises.
the whole movie was a disaster...an embarrassment to the halloween franchise...is there a new cut of whole movie? 🤣.....honestly they did michael a favor killing him at end cause that was joe bidens version of michael....not real michael
This ending didn't have to be a cliffhanger. That can just be the ending of the franchise, evil continues to live on but in other people and there's no killing it no matter what you do.
I like how no one noticed that Corey was moving after he got killed.
This movie literally undid EVERYTHING from Halloween Kills
GOOD!
@@scp-507 ok, but we don't have any resolution. Did Hawkins confess to shooting His partner and if you don't wanna explain that then the flashback was meaningless
@@andrewebb3283exactly too many blank areas from the original story , but that flashback sequence was so well shot
@@andrewebb3283I think it was meant to motivate his intention to kill Myers along with the other people of Haddonfield he terrorized. That's the payoff.
One thing that still bothers me about the ending is that no one seems to care nor is anyone surprised that Corey was wearing the mask. Laurie didn't know Corey was under the mask when she shot him. She had little to no reaction that it was him instead of Michael. Allison didn't even stop to process that Corey was wearing coveralls, covered in blood and the mask was on the floor beside him. Not how I'd have handled this part of the film but I really enjoyed Ends and the chance they took on it.
Quick writing to crank out the movie to make $$$ before public lost interest in the series. It’s a shame, as H2018 was amazing but the last two… ouch.
Yes she did, who else would it be? She’s not expecting the real Michael.
@@scp-507 true but she had zero idea that Corey had the mask. She knew Michael was still out there despite being over it. Then a person wearing Michaels mask and very similar coveralls shows up in her house and she looks directly at him before shooting him. There's no way she could have instantly thought that was Corey or anyone else under the mask. No one else has ever gone after her while wearing that mask other than Michael. Nor was there any rumor or speculation that a copycat was out there.
I'm really digging this channel's focus on reevaluating "bad" movies. I've been an apologist for Zombie's Halloween 2 and Southland Tales for a long time. Love those movies. And there is so little analysis of Southland Tales out there, it's really cool to see.
Thank you! I’ve loved H2 since 2009 and Southland Tales since I saw it a few years ago.
Glad to have you aboard.
I hate Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 with a fiery passion. It's literally my least favorite movie of all time. However, I respect your opinions and differences in tastes. I also really enjoyed Halloween Ends. I think as a standalone movie it works well, its just kind of a bad ending to this trilogy.
@@MisterSouji thanks. I plan on redoing my Halloween 2 video eventually because I hate it and I had no idea what I was doing. But it’s genuinely one of my favorite movies ever.
it took me about 6 viewings but i really like RZH2.
@markmac2206 I struggled to finish it the first time. Like, I get the characters are meant to make you uncomfortable and be unpleasant to watch. And it works. But that's not what I want. I always loved the original Halloween because it was terrifying by being subtle and atmospheric.
I heard there was at least one ending where Allison shot Corey out an upstairs window like in the original Halloween and Corey disappeared into the night just like Michael did but I don't know if it was filmed or not!
That’s what I heard too and that the screening for it was loved idk why they changed it
@@conswan57that would have been an awesome ending!
Wow out of three endings discussed, 1 - your ideal ending 2- the ending we got 3 - alternate ending. It would be interesting to hear more about the novelization, it may help me appreciate this film more.
I never understood why people kept buying the Myers house even though they knew the history of the previous owners being murdered there.
How does one know what’s happened in any house, that was previously owned?
Just because it wasn’t news, or reported, doesn’t mean heinous shit hasn’t happened there.
It’s usually a specific type of murder or crimes, that tend to make a house difficult to rent or sell.
Kid, stabbing his sister to death, who still lives at the local institution for the criminally insane?
Yeah, I don’t want to live there.
Thanks for the video. I really liked the unexpected path DGG took with Ends, but yes, not sure it was the way the wrap up the timeline. I know i am somewhat in the minority but my son and i love Kills and saw it 5x in theaters. The brutality of MM along with the score far outweighed the drag of the hospital scenes. I will say that the Ends we got didnt deliver on the iconic scenes such as Michael putting his mask on at the gas station in '18, emerging from the gun closet through the fire, or putting his mask back on to square up against the locals in Kills, that i could watch 100x and still get that rush of adrenaline and excitement. The closest it came was MM appearing in the Dr house and killing the nurse. The alternative book ending you mentioned sounded very intersting. Also, the one i just saw in the comments with Allison shooting Cort out the window and then disappearing. After all, we dont know what death is..... Anyway, you gained a new subscriber.
Agreed. Liked the movie but other endings would have potentially been preferable.
Glad to have you here 😊
I think Halloween ends is what would have happened with Jamie Lloyd had they went that direction. Corey had that innocent Jamie Lloyd vibe in the early stages of the film. I believe Michael gave the remainder of his power to Corey before he snapped his neck.
Interesting theory but I totally disagree with the Jamie comparison. I didn't get that vibe from Cory at all. And I honestly found him unlikable from the beginning. Actors portrayal didn't help and Danielle Harris did so much better making the audience empathize and root for her character even as a child actress. Corey is a terrible character.
Really dug hearing Shatter at the beginning of your video! I absolutely love Bray Wyatt and Code Orange so as soon as I heard it I knew it’d be a great video, and I am not disappointed. Absolutely great video, man!!
To be honest, I don't think this ending works for me. Plus, I would go by this kill count with a few changes, including this ending I made. Here's 10 examples of changes.
1. Have Michael Myers be supernatural and less weak.
2. Add all the deleted scenes into the movie.
3. Add Laurie's reaction to Karen's death and having trouble moving on from the inside.
4. Have Allyson not forget that Michael killed her parents.
5. Remove Sondra from the movie and have her actually die in Halloween Kills.
6. Instead of Corey stealing Michael's mask, he uses his scarecrow mask to become his own version of The Shape and continues to help Michael regain more of his strength.
7. Michael keeps the same rusty knife he pulled out in the sewers and uses it on Halloween night (2022).
8. Have the final showdown between Michael and Laurie longer than 5 minutes and add a showdown between Corey and Allyson.
9. After killing Doug, Michael is no longer staying in the sewers.
10. Mash up both themes of Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends.
11. Remove the plot armor Laurie had in the final showdown.
*Halloween (2018, during Halloween Kills)*
Jeremy Allen: accidentally killed by Corey Cunningham
*November 1st (2018, after Halloween Kills)*
Ozzy: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Hugo: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*November 1st (2018)*
Little girl: infected by Michael's evil to kill her abusive father, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Halloween (2019)*
Ryan Couper: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Kimberly Hart: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Halloween (2020)*
Meredith: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Halloween (2021)*
2 teenage graffiti artists: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*2022*
After being dragged in the sewers by Nelson Christopher, Corey encounters Michael and gets infected by his evil.
*Sewers - This morning...*
Nelson Christopher: killed by Corey Cunningham
*Sewers - This night...*
Doug Muleny: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Dr. Mathis' house*
Dr. Tanner Mathis: killed by Corey Cunningham
Deb Jennings: pinned to the wall, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
As Allyson and Corey embrace each other at the radio station. Unoticed by Allyson, Corey sees Laurie in her truck as she watches them. Unnoticed by Corey, Allyson sees Michael under a tree as he stalks her and his "protege".
*Halloween (2022)*
During the gas station scene, Michael stalks Corey and the bullies before following them to the junkyard.
*Junkyard*
Billy: killed by Corey Cunningham
Stacy: killed by Corey Cunningham
Ronald Prevo: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Terry Tramer: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Margo: killed by Corey Cunningham
*Radio Station*
Susan (Radio Receptionist): impaled to the wall, killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Willy the Kid: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Corey's house*
Joan Cunningham: killed by Corey Cunningham
Michael arrives at Velkovsy's and stalks Lindsey Wallace and Frank Hawkins. He notices Danny McBride taking a crap at the side of the bar. Michael attacks him as he turns Danny around, stabbing him in the stomach and twisting his knife around it as he begins to bleed out. Lindsey hears screaming outside as she goes out to investigates. She finds Danny dead at the side of the bar. Suddenly appearing, Michael attacks Lindsey as they begin to have a showdown once again like in Halloween Kills. Michael gets the upper hand and kills Lindsey. Frank goes outside and sees Lindsey lying dead on the floor. He looks back up to see Michael standing above her. Michael does recognize him from 1978 and 2018. Frank pleads to Michael about his partner McCabe being killed by accident, realizing long ago that he should've let Loomis kill him in 1978. Referencing Loomis trying to shoot Michael in Halloween 4, Frank shoots at Michael, but he's already gone.
*Velkovsy's*
Danny David: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
Lindsey Wallace: killed by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
*Elsewhere...*
Theresa Allen: killed by Corey Cunningham
At his demolished home, Michael stalks 7th graders who are dressed up as him. They want to summon Michael Myers to get rid of the people that were mean to them. Michael does appear as he stands where his sister's bedroom once stood, stalking the 7th graders. As a few cops arrive, they tell him Michael Myers was here, but he's already gone.
Laurie's house - *The Older Generation (Michael Myers vs Laurie Strode) & the Newer Generation (Corey Cunningham vs Allyson Nelson)*
Corey Cunningham: shot twice by Laurie Strode, shot 4 times in the chest and a 5th time in the head and fell out of the window of Laurie's office, killed by Allyson Nelson
Michael Myers: "killed" by Allyson Nelson
Laurie Strode: injured by Michael Myers, killed by Allyson Nelson due to her granddaughter being infected by Michael's evil
Allyson Nelson: infected by Michael's evil to kill Laurie, injured by Michael Myers 🎃🔪
After killing Corey, Allyson goes downstairs as she goes over to find her grandmother dying. Approaching Allyson from behind, Michael turns her around as he chokes her, infecting her with his evil. As Michael hands her his knife, Allyson looks down at her dying grandmother as Laurie pleads for her to not kill her. She then says "Evil will never die... It changes shape...". Allyson slits Laurie's throat, killing her grandmother. As Allyson turns to Michael, he takes the knife and stabs her in the stomach. As he looks down at Allyson, he raises his knife before hearing sirens. After Michael leaves the house, Frank, Sheriff Barker, and the cops arrive as they find Laurie and Corey dead. They found Allyson still alive as they took her outside to treat her wounds. She looks over to Corey dead on the grass before being taken to the hospital. Frank approaches Allyson if she's alright. She says nothing with no emotion. Michael's heavy breathing is heard everywhere in Haddonfield before the screen cuts to black as the Halloween theme plays and the credits roll.
Lori should have been pulled through the shredder by Michael while everyone watched in horror and her granddaughter screaming while Michael’s mask lay on the ground in front of everyone end credits!
I agree with you, sir. I loved the film and the book was even better.
Another fantastic piece of work bru! I'm still split on the film personally and I'm not sure the alternate ending would have changed that but your suggestion that Corey is missing following the nights events would have been a perfect thread to leave unresolved.
It’s definitely not a film for everybody. It’s a bad movie to end a trilogy with, but I love it.
@@jeremy-caesarI like it too but it just needs narrative streamlining to be a perfect book end. That being said I do agree that Cory could've been hinted to become the nee evil
Hello. I’m new here. The quick reviews are always a good choice when you want to quickly get your ideas out. Enjoyed the video and the alternate ending ideas !
Nice explanation. Here's what could have been a neat idea too. Make this movie take place the same night as the other two, the ending happens the same way. Laurie kills Michael in the kitchen and they grind him up or burn him to ashes. Laurie keeps his mask, she has her happy ending in the house. We then jump ahead one year or two, have the Corey babysitting kill the same way and then have his spiral to evil due to society calling him the NEW Michael. He can still fall for Allison. And have that romance. The bullies still treat him had and he's conflicted with darkness. Just remove his connection to Michael in the sewers. He grabs Michael's mask from Laurie's house at some point when he is with Allison. Make everything else the same. You can even have him kill himself at the end too if you want. Or he gets sent to Smiths Grove, just like Michael did. Laurie still has the sheriff and writes her book, and Allison still leaves Haddonfield. It starts an all new generation. I think they just needed to rearrange the movie and it would have worked a lot better.
Hi, is this anthonywukowski199? If so, are you available to chat possibly?
I'm honestly rooting for Corey to be the new Shape.
I’m not. His “evil” was based on him accidentally killing a kid. Michael deliberately killed his sister Judith Myers. Just not a good predecessor for Michael
@bnevz Corey is one of the worst horror movie characters ever on film.
Corey is the new face of horror. I love seeing Myers fans cry.
Fun idea for the ending. For me, I never took Corey as pure evil, just a situational evil, much in the same way of Rob Zombie's Michael. I imagine the final line about the evil transferring over is about some other 6 year old boy somewhere in the world but I also do like the idea of it just being gone. I also do love the finality of that ending but I kind of expected Michael to grab Laurie's leg and drag her down with him at the end lol. All this to say: good video, too much of Ends' conversation has been shrouded by negativity so this was great to watch.
I'm a huge fan of the alternate (very well fan-made) ending where the last shot you see is Michael's mask but it ends with the style & music of Halloween iii, implying that it's...one of those evil masks from that factory that's been controlling Michael the whole time. Yeah, I get that H3 is no longer cannon, but still, would've made for, in my opinion, one of the best twists ever.
I liked Halloween Ends, I did like that Laurie did had a good ending and I liked the themes of what the movie had and I liked how much of Michaels impact had over Haddonfield. The movie isn't perfect and it has some issues but I don't think it's bad.
The alternative ending of Laurie becoming evil does remind me of this
Spoilers for Halloween #3 the devil's eyes comic
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Laurie is revealed to have became Michael Myers. It happens after the events of issue #2 of the Chaos Halloween comic "The Blackest Eye's" and H20. After she kills Michael she became obsessed and became Michael Myers and even kept his head as some trophy and made it like a jack O Lantern.
How I would have ended ENDS, is to have Laurie and Myers have a chase at the junkyard, to which they climb onto the shredder and Myers is somehow knocked in, getting pulverized with the mask on. We see Myers put the mask back on before this, so no tricky H20 crap.
After that, we see Laurie at home, writing her novel, her narration, Fear The Reaper music begins to play over her narration, and we cut to another state, town, where a killer is on the loose.
Music keeps playing, Laurie keeps narrating. We cut to the new town where everyone is panicking about this new killer, and then cut to an abandoned farm house. A man or woman is tending to the fields, climbs out of their tractor, and walks into the farm. Reaper tune keeps playing, and the farmer opens the large farm door, hears a creaking sound, turns and bam, the new killer is right there and yanks the farmer out of frame. Cut to black, Reaper song lyrics begin over credits.
Nice video.
Ok…so my thoughts on Ends have changed. I initially said the movie should not exist, was a slap in the face to the true fans, and is an abomination to the franchise. I stand by that it’s a slap in the face given it’s placement in the “trilogy” or “quadrilogy” but I’ll take back the abomination and shouldn’t exist parts. However….this movie as is should absolutely 100% not have been the finale to these particular installments. You can keep ALMOST all elements to this movie, but the ending that I wanted was Corey DEAD, Laurie DEAD, Alyson DEAD, and yes, Michael DEAD. My ending was the kitchen fight scene but obviously longer and more brutal….my changes….Laurie, while hiding in the pantry, grabs a mason jar of home grown jarred “ghost” peppers that Lindsey brought over earlier in the movie and slams it in Michael’s face breaking the jar. Michael is now temporarily blinded by the pepper juice and glass shards and holding his face. Laurie takes the remainder of sharp, broken jar in her hand and stabs it into Michael’s face/cheek area. Michael stumbles back and slowly, and seemingly painlessly removes the jar from his face. No longer blinded, the fight is ON. Michael severely injures Laurie in multiple ways, slamming her, breaking her nose, stabbing her, choking her, and Laurie delivers damage to Michael as well. Michael sustains multiple stab wounds during this fight, bleeding profusely. Michael keeps coming though. So does Laurie, even though she has taken so much damage. Like in the original, Alyson comes back, enters the fight, saves her grandmother but Michael bests her as well, killing her in a blurry manner with a camera view that is from Laurie’s POV, but not before Laurie can deliver one last knife to Michael…in his femoral artery. Michael then kills Laurie as she gazes upon Alyson’s lifeless body by putting his boot on her throat and pressing down slowly, almost as a mercy killing as she is obviously dying from the battle damage.. Michael, breathing heavily, pulls the knife out of his leg. We see blood GUSHING from his leg. He exits the house. Halloween theme starts. Camera follows him slowly walking down the street. A Blood trail and bloody footprints follow until Michael sits down on a random bench on a haddonfield sidewalk as he lays the knife down beside him. Music stops. We see his blood pooling up around his leg on the sidewalk. We now not only hear the breathing but we SEE his warm breath just a tad in the cool night air until….the breathing suddenly stops and so does the visual of the breath. After some time, Police arrive after seeing what they think is someone who’s had too much to drink on Halloween night only to see the blood and realize hat it is indeed the one and only Michael Myers. One cop thinks he’s dead, stating he’s not breathing (h2 homage). The other cop says “hey, don’t you remember 2018?!” The other cop “well yeah, and?” Then, after a brief pause, the other cop says “so we’re not taking anymore chances with this motherfcker. This is for haddonfield”. The camera catches a quick glimpse of Officer TRAMER’s name plate as he points, aims, and shoots the already seemingly dead Michael Myers in the side of the head. His lifeless body falls to the ground in a pool of his own blood and brain matter, even more blood now spewing from his head. Halloween theme resumes as the camera zooms in on his blown out , bloody mask/head. Michael IS DEAD. They are ALL dead. End credits.
For my ideal ending for Halloween Ends, we would see Laurie in her study after she forces Allison to leave Haddonfield for her safety as the evil is slowly taking over. As she finishes writing her memoir, we see a revolver on the desk, positioned next to her laptop. Upon completing her final sentence, Laurie takes the gun and places it directly at herself. At that moment, we see Laurie weep while hearing her breathe heavily under pressure. She is committed into ridding the evil by any means, even if she has to do the unthinkable. The camera zooms in on her teary eyes, and there we see her pupils as they begin to dilate, with her heavy breathing slowly turning deep and slow, akin to how Michael breathes under the mask. And as the scene cuts to black, we suddenly hear the sound of a gun shot
That’s pretty fricken badass actually….
Tbh I believe Corey is still alive since we never really saw the area where his body was after that so maybe idk
My head canon he becomes a new shape for the town in a similar vein to Michael.
Personally I always like the whole"The more things change the more they also stay the same" endings
There's so much about ENDS that I love. Overall, it's a messy movie with lots of great ideas, performances, themes. When Corey dies I usually turn the movie off. I would have preferred as soon as Michael is dropped in the grinder Corey sits up as we've seen Michael sit up in the original next to the bed. Corey is now The Shape.
oh, and I hate the idea of Laurie becoming the Shape.
I really enjoyed the first one (2018), because it felt like a much needed grounding after years of sequels going further and further off the rails. Then Halloween kills gets off to a good start only to start jumping sharks right and left towards the end. I will consider 2018 a good sequel to the original, and can happily forget about the rest
Unfortunately the Halloween franchise has long been assailed with bad box office results when directors try to go off script and test new ideas. Now one could argue allot of the previous ideas were so poor, they deserved their fate. But here we have one that at least challenges that assessment, yet the results remain the same. Diehard fans will always seek out the hidden novel in these films. But what makes these movies work is the general public coming along. Unfortunately they're usually only present for the anniversary installments that retell the same story all over again. Anticipate that to replay in 2028 for the 50th.
In any event, great video, thanks so much for sharing and I definitely can't wait for the one that you have planned for Halloween Kills in October, great stuff and thanks again, take care for now 🎃🎃🔪🔪
They completely riipped off the Correy Cunningham character from Arnie Cunningham in the movie Christine how lazy is that?
Thought you were talking about the silver shamrock ending
i heard that there was an unused ending where michael (weakened) fights laurie, while corey at his full power fights allyson, laurie kills michael and goes to the other fight just as allyson is about to lose, she saves her by shooting corey six times, making him fall from the 3rd/2nd floor of the house, just like in the original film, and then showing that corey is gone, in my opinion this is a great ending to the franchise, similar to halloween 4, michael dies, but his evil lives on, but this time it actually makes him even scarier, as this confirms that the whole trilogy was his masterplan, he had his moment of full power in halloween kills, and then he knew he would naturally die, so he purposely picked corey as his sucessor, iniciating an endless cycle of evil, so we have laurie finally getting rid of michael, but also michael still being scary and his evil still being present
Awesome video, glad to finally see somebody defend this Movie. Corey totally should have lived.
Great video !
I haven't got an alternate ending. I actually like the movie as is well enough. For many reasons. It's not how I would have made it. But considering I expected to hate it and....didn't lol...I can't complain much. But ideally (IMO) it should have gone one of two ways. Either Michael Myers isn't in it AT ALL....not alive at least. Or it should have tied directly and deeply into Season of the Witch. Option 1: The film opens with Michael killing Karen like at the end of Kills. And instead of vanishing into the night...he crawls off to the sewer and dies from the wounds the mob gave him. He's dead but his legend is larger than ever. Corey accidentally kills the kid...becomes an outcast...and then gets bullied and beat up on the regular and finds Michael's mummified corpse in the sewer while hiding from his tormentors. Then he takes the mask and strikes back at the people who are making his life hell. Eventually crossing paths with Laurie who he ends dying in a confrontation with. She takes the body and puts him in the grinder with the mask on...killing Michael's legacy because the town would think it was the real Michael Myers while also nipping the Shape's next incarnation in the bud. It would also make Kills that little bit less silly because evil DID in fact die that night lol. Option 2: Opens with Michael killing Karen again, just like the end of Kills. Cut to Laurie and Allyson leaving the Haddonfield hospital when Michael appears to kill them to when Tom Atkins character from Season of the Witch rolls up in a truck like Kyle Reese and blasts Michael with a shotgun who then promptly gets back up. They have to go destroy Silver Shamrock like Skynet because it's sending the Kill signal to Michael's mask. Cue flashback scene to 1962. Young Michael Myers is at home. His parents worked at Silver Shamrock but are now trying to expose them. They have some of the mask chips, which Michael finds. The chip compels him to kill his sister. This original plan is abandoned by Silver Shamrock because it doesn't cause every child to kill...only the ones who are predisposed to kill already. Then in 1978, Michael returns to his old house to retrieve another chip for his new mask. Then you can get awesome scenes back in 2018 of Michael stalking Laurie, Allyson and Tom Atkins through the dark corridors of the Silver Shamrock factory...maybe Michael could even kill a few of those robot assassins from Season of the Witch. It could have been really rad! Lots of missed opportunities but I still don't hate Ends as is..
I agree horror movies need to stop having good endings. It’s horror it should have you guessing and not be so predictable
I know there are already a few other versions to the ending to Halloween Ends, including the survival of Michael Myers and not Laurie Strode, that being said, it doesn't matter whet ending happened in regards to Halloween Ends, and there even is a satisfying ending for most at this point, including what I have seen personally from the film, no matter what, wether Michael lives or dies physically, his darkness will forever reign over the town of Haddonfield, especially during Fall/Autumn and it will always be Michael's home, it's just too bad that so many innocent people lost their lives to this darkness that was always destined for this town 🎃🎃🎃🎃🔪🔪🔪🔪
I was extremely disappointed with Halloween ends, after what had gone before...becoming more powerful everytime he kills and then to see him like an old hobo in the sewer did not do it for me. Too much of the film focused on Cory and not Michael, i wanted the finale to be full of dread and atmosphere like the original and then for Laurie to say he is not the boogeyman...he is a man, undid all the mystery and myth of Michael as he no longer seemed the unstoppable superhuman juggernaut we love...a missed opportunity i thought.
I wish it would have ended with it seeing that there is a Silver Shamrock logo on Michael’s mask
When she said evil never dies she meant and knew Allyson was pregnant with evil growing inside of her Laurie will have to fight more demons with Allyson as a new evil
I still think Corey is alive. That could still happen after Michael was incinerated he came back to life. They could continue this with Corey and Allison who is carrying Corey's child.
That's all well and good that the Evil inside Michael Myers passes on to others by looking into his eyes and being around him but there is no indication of this since Halloween 1978, Loomis said: "I met this six-year-old child, with this blank, pale…emotionless face and, the blackest eyes... the DEVIL'S eyes! I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply... EVIL!" Oh Loomis didn't become evil then nor the rest of Smith's Grove Sanitarium? They had two movies before HW Ends to try and bring this idea of passing on the evil and they failed in my opinion. This Myers doesn't even act like the original, 78 Myers set people up then kills them, very smart and methodical. Halloween Ends the love story!
Okay shatter playing inna halloween video; never thoughts i’d see it
A quick video that gets to the point? Oh my, true horror!
Interesting concepts! Rather bleak, but circular.
Hi, is this UA-camr: Jeremy Caesar? If so, are you available to chat with one of your biggest fans on your channel if you have any spare time? I’d would like to ask you a question if it’s alright with you?
Okay
@@jeremy-caesar Hi, Jeremy. My name is Logan Hayes, and I’ve been a huge fan of your channel for quite some time, and I was wondering if I could ask you a question possibly if it’s alright with you from me?
Mr. Narrator, the line, "Evil doesn't die..." is true. Nothing ever dies, as in concludes. Everything, even our thoughts, are energy. Energy and matter are one in the same. It never ends. It changes form, no matter what the end to the movie is. But on a more practical note, that theme is visited throughout the movie, when Laurie is confronted and told that the killings of the last two movies are because of Laurie's Boogeyman, that the events in the town this time around is because the town needed a new scapegoat since Michael Myers has gone. The theme gets revealed several times in Halloween Ends, how Evil will influence others and sometimes turn others evil. That is what I think is meant by "Evil Never Dies." It's also a callback to the lame chant in Halloween Kills(which is a stupid title, btw)
HAHA The Fiend Theme in the intro i see what you did .
One of my favorite current themes.
@@jeremy-caesar i can dig it
the story will never end until Laurie is dead in this new timeline
Man. I gotta get the novelization of this trilogy
The first 2 don’t add too much new to the stories. The Halloween Ends novelization is the one I recommend. It adds so much more to the story.
@@jeremy-caesar thank you!!! I will totally get it .
Like you I enjoyed Halloween Ends. I love when movies try to deviate form the norm. Sadly it didn't quite stick the landing and I still have issues with it even after all this time. Corey is one of them. This would have hit a bit better if, like the novel, we had build up for him. Give the audience more info dump on who he is and give a reason why he is so susceptible to the evil would have made the movie flow a bit better. Allison is issue I had but that is another topic entirely.
It’s still a bad movie 🍿
@@kascnef Oh for sure. Worst of the trilogy by far. Still it takes a lot for me to absolutely hate a movie and I did not hate this one.
Definitely do the novelization!!
I still maintain that Michael should not have been in this movie. It should have been all Corey. Laurie shouldn’t have found out who was under the mask until the scene at the metal grinder at the end. She should have been under the impression that she had killed Michael, but when she casts his body into the grinder, the mask should have snagged on something and revealed Corey’s face to Laurie. That way it makes sense for her to believe that evil never truly days (the mask escaped the grinder), it just changes shape (because it wasn’t Michael under the mask.) The whole time she is doing that ending monologue, the camera would be a pov shot of someone walking to the metal grinder and putting on the mask, but no confirmation of who it is.
This would have still given Laurie her ending without screwing over Michael. It would fully establish Corey as the new Michael whilst showing his replacement at the end. Haddonfield always needs a man in a mask, even if it’s not Michael or Corey. Fans would be left wondering what happened to Michael after Kills and if this series ever gets a sequel following Jamie Lee’s exit from the series, they can just run it as Michael getting his mask back and going from there.
As it stands, Ends has a terrible ending that satisfies no one
How about they bring the movie back with the opening scene of the night that Michael died Corey being placed into the ambulance and he sit up like Michael in the body bag…..
That would have been a DREADFUL Ending
Explains Sartain too
Yeah. I forgot to mention it in the video but I hate the Sartain twist in 2018, but the “contagious evil” makes that twist work more.
my ideal ending is the end of Kills.
I enjoyed this video 1000x more than Halloween Ends. 😄 Great job!
Thank you 😊 some day you’ll come around, I’m sure 😂😂
@@jeremy-caesar I would be honored!
And I thought Halloween Ends couldn’t have been worse, but I guess I was wrong. This sounds horrible.
Yeah, it’s a bad ending, but the normal ending doesn’t actually show evil changing shape.
I respectfully disagree, I liked the ending as it was. I feel like had they gone with the ending in the book, it would have came across as too sensational and a touch ridiculous. Laurie was damaged but she wasn't evil. the 'evil doesn't die, it changes shape' was reflected in how Michaels evil infected Corey.
and in another decade or two they'll retcon this trilogy for a new one to try and unshit the bed again. this trilogy started out strong with halloween 2018 but lost their bearings with Kills then full on tubgrilled with Ends
I think a better ending would of been Michael grabbing laurie and taking her with him when he got cut to pieces and they both die
I’m happy for anyone who was able to enjoy the film so I’m like very happy for y’all but personally even if it had been advertised correctly I still wouldn’t have liked it it made no sense to do this in the last film of the trilogy I think the idea was good but the way they did it in my opinion was terrible and cringe. Plus I just don’t think this is something you do at the end of a trilogy that had two earlier films that felt connected but have this one that in my opinion doesn’t feel connected but I am very happy for people who liked this film I hold nothing against people who liked it
I do get why people hate this film but I actually enjoyed it was like i was watching a trashy 80s film except its new
Agreed. I feel like this would’ve been considered a great horror film if it wasn’t connected to the Halloween franchise. Seeing Michael Myers get bullied by a guy who was bullied by a marching band was worse than Busta Rhymes kicking his a** in Halloween Resurrection. Just awful
We should NOT have to read the novel to get the full story; it's up to the filmmakers of this piece of crap movie to tell their story right and make sure that the audience enjoys it. Like, don't start a new trilogy without a properly mapping out the Beginning, Follow-Up and Ending, instead of making it up as you go.
I honestly hate that crap.
I agree to an extent. 2018 and Kills were planned from the beginning. Ends wasn’t. I think Blumhouse wanted a trilogy though so it was added on.
they set so much up in the first 2 then just forgot everything.
It's time to let this franchise RIP. And I'm saying that as a fan of it.
I agree 100% but chances are it’ll be rebooted in the next 5 years 😂
I was definitely hoping for Corey to live on and continue his own franchise as the new face of eViL!!
this ending was better than the real ending,
about Allyson die is not fine... she leaving in the car was better ;)
my opinion is nobody doesn't matter who wears the mask but if it's not Michael Myers I don't want to watch a movie about Halloween supposed to be Michael Myers with somebody else in the mask
Are u a fan of bray wyatt?
Bray Wyatt music
Bray Wyatt fan?
Halloween ends is TRAAASSSHHH! One of the worst Halloween movies ever! They made michael so weak. Its a slap in the face to fans who love Michael Meyers!
I read the books of the new trilogy. They were all better than the movies
What song was that in the beginning of the video? It sounds familiar. The movie would have been better IF Micheal's power was passed on to that nerd, can't remember his name. This movie just sucked.
It’s Bray Wyatt‘s theme
@@jeremy-caesar Now I look like a total nerd, but on the bright side we haven't had to see him recently enough for me to relate that song to him 😃yay!
I don’t think having both Michael and Corey die and the line “Evil doesn’t die, it changes shape” is a contradiction. There’s still evil out in the world that can manifest in different forms that doesn’t have anything to do with Michael. I’m also not a fan of Laurie being infected with evil at the end because that’s too literally supernatural for my tastes. Laurie has a pure heart so her becoming evil just because she looked into Michael’s eyes is going too far in my opinion. I’m fine with Corey turning evil because we aren’t sure if he was destined to be evil or if society made him that way, or if it’s a combination of both. I think that type of ambiguity ties in nicely with the original Halloween.
Doesn’t matter, the movie completely sucked no matter what the ending was!
Someone’s a bray Wyatt fan
100%
I think the ending works as this trilogy has been a commentary on trauma in the age of Me Too so I like that is shows people can have happiness and a life outside of the worst thing that ever happened to them, especially as someone who has experience with that subject
I thought Corey ruined the movie.
Ya think Curtis wouldn’t want that ending where she becomes evil stupid chick
Yeah the movie just isn't very coherent in its themes or ideas really.
It was juvenile woke crap you drug addicts eat this crap she is not the star loomis was
I would have made ends like Rambo first blood a full on manhunt for Michael
Movie wasn't good imo. Shouldn't have to read a novelization to fix the films wrongs
worst movie i have ever seen ...Didnt bring it ....Some kid running in the sewer ...Horrible move making sorry i had to say it
Halloween officially ends for me in 1981 when Michael’s doctor blows him up in HMH. David Gordon Green sucks as a director, should be banned from touching any other horror franchises.
That’s not a bad ending. I just don’t like the brother/sister story.
@@jeremy-caesar It was cheesy but that was the 80’s.
ending never was seen so why would it work
I explained in the video that it’s in the novelization.
Halloween Ends was just a thrown together hot mess it had no real direction it was a shame the trilogy came to that
well halloween ends was voted worse of the series the other day
the whole movie was a disaster...an embarrassment to the halloween franchise...is there a new cut of whole movie? 🤣.....honestly they did michael a favor killing him at end cause that was joe bidens version of michael....not real michael