The Secret Role of Withers Explained in Baldur's Gate III
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Withers is a powerful yet mysterious ally in Baldur's Gate III. Time to find out who he is...
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Tracks from Baldur's Gate III
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00:00 Intro
00:45 The Ancient Crypt
04:03 Who is Jergal
08:09 Withers' Arrival in Camp
11:40 Abilities & Services
16:17 Do Illithids Possess Souls
21:14 Arabella
26:22 Saving The Dark Urge
31:56 The Grand Mausoleum
35:06 Withers' Party & Post Credits
42:12 Conclusion - Ігри
Me, who has zero DnD knowledge: "yep, that sounds exactly right"
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As someone who does. This is pretty on point except for the "his own mess" part Jergal he stepped down because he knew the three would be their own doom. It was the path of least resistance to their initial self-inflicted downfall. Though it may be that he could not see the second sundering as the Tablets of Fate that maintain the balance of the realm-space were destroyed by AO a higher power that exists and operates outside of all that is written. Such an act would be beyond Jergal's comprehension. I would be surprised if he doesn't bear some resentment of AO for that act.
@@zenivinezp😊l
I believe the question about a skeleton not being able to talk is a shout out to the original Divine Divinity, in one of the first dungeons there are two skeletons chatting who suddenly realise they shouldn't be able to talk, have an existential crisis and collapse in a pile of bones, it's one of the funniest moments I've seen in a CRPG.
omg classic larian joke
Hi, Old man here, 35+ years of DMing and I have played pretty much all the previous D&D computer games. (huge massive spoilers and history lesson)
This is a good assessment of information available in BG3 - and I think you are almost right. You young man are missing some important data, from previous times. And when you have read this you will love larian even more.
In my opinion BG3 is not only a sequel to Baldurs gate 2 but also a lore sequel to Neverwinter knights 2 and its expansion Mask of the betrayer(MOTB), and even a sequel to the ANCIENT game eye of the beholder (one of the first D&D computer games)
The Emperor's location on the astral realm is actually a previous location from MOTB. It is the corpse of Myrkul, even a dead god has a corpse on the astral.
According to my understanding of what happens in the fugue plane in MOTB withers is actually not jergal himself, rather a split off aspect of the god, a divine shard that imbues an undying chosen. Further more the hand behind this is kelemvor - whom after the events of MOTB chose to take a role in finding a solution to the wall of the faithless - and what happens to souls who do not have a patron god.
now on to really old times: eye of the beholder. it is revealed here that mind flayers (and other aberrations such as beholders) are not from another plane, they are from another crystal sphere - another universe entirely - outside of AO's control. Even the gods don't know IF they have souls, or where those souls go and mortal becoming aberrations is essentially theft from the total balance of the universe (all planes, life and death).
Thanks for reading, and thanks to larian for making this old git happy and giving me a sequel I waited 20+ years for!
Damn, thank you for this extra info, ive always wondered whos skeleton it was in the astral realm
Oh my goodness I thought I was the only BG player to remember eye of the beholder! Brought on some dusty memories friend!
@@sharb7320 you are quite welcome!
Larian really did their homework when it came to BG3. A real shame that they wont make BG4, probably because of IRL VG politics rather than desire or ability to do it justice. Its sad that BG3 will be the outlier rather than the shining example of gaming.
@@Sirfinchyyy yep, hasbro are greedy sods that hate their customer base. D&D setting is great and all that - though the rules mechanics are mediocre. I trust larian to make a good game in their own setting with their own ruleset, and more power to them I say as Hasbro seem determined to ruin D&D by massive over monetization ever since they bought out TSR,
"You do not stoke fear by reaping your own fields, but by burning your foes." Is such a badass line.
The interactions between Arabella and, well, "Bone Man" are one of the most wholesome experience of the game.
Gods in D&D have the ability to project their power into an "Avatar" sort of a physical manifestation of them in the material plane that makes it possible for them to interact directly with mortals without leaving the safety of their own divine plane. withers is almost certainly such an Avatar, rather than [SPOILER] in the flesh or a resurrected mummy/zombie he talks through.
also something you've missed is that withers casts "True Resurrection" (a level 9 necromancy spell with very few limitations including not needing the body of the deceased) rather than revivify (lvl 3) or raise dead which would be the resurrection spells within the level gap of BG3 further hinting at his probably divine status.
And if you attack a companion during the epilogue I believe he casts the Gate spell (another 9th level spell) which sends the target to another plane of existance precisely where the caster wants.
Technically you CAN get True Resurrection as a scroll ingame, through a Gale storyline if he dies.
Unfortunately as far as I can tell it only works like revivify in game, though :(
Exactly this. I've been convinced from the beginning that Withers is an avatar, not Jergal himself, and certainly not some animated meat puppet.
This is one of, I believe, 3 ninth level spells in BG3. Power word: kill, wish and true resurrection.
Something worth noting about Jergal - When he dumped a bunch of his work onto the dead three, he kept some of it as a primordial god can't really retire. They were never a lesser being, so can't downgrade themselves.
The divine portfolios he kept? Runes and FATE. Remaining in control of fate matters, as it also gives him a means to move against the lunatics he gave his powers to. It's such an absurdly powerful portfolio, ranking right up there with Tyranny, Fear, and Death. (Bhaal did not manage to claim even one of Jergal's top portfolios.)
I genuinely hope they never elaborate on Arabella, it makes the world feel more alive by having her go off and do her own adventures. Who knows, maybe in some future rulebook we'll get a line about a Tiefling wizard on the sword coast with ties to the former god of the dead
Arabella is most likely a sorcerer. how she describes the way she casts her spells is fitting how a sorcerer uses their power.
@@alexwang3282 She could also be a Druid, her first spell we see is most likely Entangle, which is a Druid spell. Plus she said she "got" her magic after stealing the Sylvanis Idol. Maybe she'll serve as a teaser for a new Sorcerer subclass though, so who knows...
My theory is that since she has the power of the decaying forest she might become another god of death in the future maybe the god of natural death or something idk
Maybe Arabella will become the future scribe of the dead, once she has learned enough.
@@thundertwonk1090 But her acts are more like sorcerer powers. Their innate powers not powers you get from working with nature to help it.
Because he’s just a cool dude
I fucking love withers, best npc in the game
Hope is better
If you play has a cleric of Kelemvor you can get a bit more out of him with a 20 religion check
Or even a warlock of the ancient one.
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I thought you meant you like watching Sam at the gym. Like staring at him workout at the gym.
@@chinaman1 Well, don't tell him I do that too. Me and the others have a hard enough time not making ourselves too obvious when we are jockeying for the best vantage point to look from.
Lol I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who was like, “why you watching Sam workout?” Followed by, “where do you watch Sam workout?” Lol
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@@joeracer302I literally scrolled through the video to see if there was a full segment of him working out
What’s crazy is the dead three had a contest where they bowled against each other in order to decide who got to pick first when choosing from Jergal’s divine portfolio.
I think the game they played to decide who got what was named “rattle-bones” and I always imagined it was something like liars dice
@@courier6960 That's pretty much correct
I haven't seen it myself, but apparently Withers has unique lines for clerics of Kelemvor that strongly hint to him being Jergal too.
Edit: Spelling
Now, that Larian confirmed they're adding new endings specifically for evil runs in patch 7, I wonder if any will be connected to Jergal. After all, in one of the teases we can clearly see the Dark Urge walking around the domain of Bhaal, presumably at the end of all time (as written in Sarevok's journey)
I feel the need to point out that the Second Sundering was an event that happened very recently in Forgotten Realms D&D lore, like a decade before Baldur's Gate 3. 2:21 That book there lists the names of gods that have been deceased over the past century, and the last three unreadable names sitting so close together are Bhaal, Bane and Myrkul who have died more than a century before Baldur's Gate 3. To those who are curious, I'm going to explain how these three gods died.
(Bhaal): 124 years before Baldur's Gate 3 and 10 years before Baldur's Gate 1, Bhaal died during a world shaking event known as the Time of Troubles, when the overgod Ao forced every deity known in the Forgotten Realms (except Helm) to walk around Faerun as mortals because Bane and Myrkul stole the Tablets of Fate, thinking they could control the fate of mortals with said tablets, but they had no clue that the tablets don't do that. Ao, not knowing Bane and Myrkul were responsible for the theft of the Tablets, punished every god and goddess by forcing them to be mortals. Bhaal was killed by a mortal man named Cyric, who would eventually become a god himself and take over as the god of murder for the next 110 years until Bhaal's revival. In the lore told in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Bhaal figured out a decade before the Time of Troubles that he will become mortal and be killed by Cyric from someone who can predict the future, so Bhaal prepared a contingency plan: creating his mortal children, the Bhaalspawn. He created an unknown number of lesser Bhaalspawn by walking around Faerun in his avatar knocking up females of almost every race. Baldur's Gate 3 lore states he created The Dark Urge by himself with no sexual activities with anybody. His plan was when his mortal children become old enough, like early to mid 20's, they will be manipulated into killing each other (The Dark Urge was to have no involvement in this, Bhaal had different plans for Durge), and the portions of his godly energy that they borrow until their deaths will bring him back. Bhaal was killed by Cyric on Boareskyr Bridge, which is north from the city Baldur's Gate. Unfortunately for Bhaal, the actions of one of his mortal children known as Gorion's Ward (Gorion was a former Harper who adopted the BG1 and BG2 protagonist) delayed his revival for 110 years, until 10 or 11 years before Baldur's Gate 3, during the beginning of the Second Sundering, Bhaal was revived because his last two living lesser mortal children, two humans that aged very slowly because of Bhaal's essence in their bodies, Abdel and Viekang killed each other.
(Myrkul): Myrkul's avatar was destroyed by the mortal woman who goes by the nickname Midnight who eventually became the new Mystra. He was restored during the Second Sundering.
(Bane): The god of tyranny and strife was killed by Torm, the the patron deity of paladins near a city called Tantras which is far east from Baldur's Gate, during the Time of Troubles. But a decade before his death, he had a son named Iyachtu Xvim, who was a cambion like Raphael. Like Bhaal's mortal sons and daughters, Iyachtu Xvim inherited some of Bane's powers for his revival after his death. In the year the events of the Neverwinter Nights game happened, Xvim with the Red Wizard who specializes in necromancy, Szass Tam (who had not conquered Thay yet), and Bane's Chosen, Fzoul Chembryl conducted a ritual that brought Bane back. So basically Bane was revived long before Bhaal and Myrkul were during the Second Sundering.
I forgot to mention that the Second Sundering was meant to undo the damages the Time of Troubles and Spellplague have caused to the Forgotten Realms. Ao has brand new Tablets of Fate now.
The deletion of souls via the absolute destroys a thread in the tapestry of fate. If you look at The Balance as the entity that controls the entirety of this sphere these petty gods were breaking the cycle that The Balance designed and so it sent the most powerful aspect in its service to deal with the issue. It is likely Ao who Jergal is working for since he is "The Overgod" and "the Realmsian embodiment of The Balance".
My only issue with this theory is that that isn't normally how Ao operates. Ao 'sending' Jergal anywhere just doesn't feel right. There are a couple gods Ao delegates to directly--Helm and Tyr, for instance--but I never got the impression that Jergal was ever one of his direct lieutenants in the way that Tyr and Helm are.
Tyr was blinded for failing to notice the theft of the Tablets of Fate (indicating that Ao had expectations of Tyr that he didn't have of the other gods) and Helm was charged with preventing any of the gods from returning to their home planes. And Jergal? Nobody knows. Doesn't seem like he was even an afterthought to Ao. I use the Time of Troubles specifically as a barometer because Ao was so hands-off prior to the Time of Troubles that mortals weren't even aware he existed; so, if Ao had the kind of relationship with a god that Ao would've given that god a specific job, we'd have heard about it before it. I think, anyway.
Withers thou goest, I follow
Until I started watching BG Lore videos, in my first BG3 playthrough (I was a Paladin) I thought that Withers was a Chosen of Jergal.
Milil was the god of music in the Forgotten Realms. Not more familiar with more current lore, he apparently got killed or depowered more recently. He is all huffy at the party because he was the god of music and now has to play the equivalent of a kid's birthday party. He feels its so beneath him.
He cheers up if you recognize him
Great video. I realized that he was Jergal quite quickly in my own playthrough, but was never able to grasp his exact motivations. Your video explained a lot of things for me, thanks.
I knew and screamed my death gods name when I first started playing. entered the crypt and saw the scroll in the skull on the wall.
JERGAL I proclaimed then after the skele' fight, Withers came from the tomb. JERGAL'S CHAMPION I called. no...
Jergal himself.
I theorized on my first playthrough that Withers is actually Jergal, the god the Dead Three made a deal with to become the deities they are now. This is basically only based on his being death-centric, and the way he mocks the Dead Three in the post credit scene. I’m sure that’s wrong, but I can’t wait to watch this video and figure it out.
Edit: NO FUCKING WAY I WAS RIGHT
Haha, play through the temple again. EVERYTHING there is basically screaming at players that Withers is Jergal. Noticed nothing during my first playthrough, noticed about 600 easter eggs the second. It's almost like Larian was screaming it at us. I just thought he was 'flavor' at first, just a gameplay system disguised as a character.
The reason he mocks the Dead Three at the end credits is because of what they did during the Spellplague, during the time of troubles, and the countless times they were responsible for trying to usurp Ao the overseer. Basically these 3 even after becoming greater deities, then quasi- deities, and then barely demigods. Always sought more power even though they were already gods. His mockery of them was because they "Just" were never truly satisfied with the power they already had. Ambition as "Gale" put it.
I always presumed he was Jergal and the reason he was helping the party was because AO commanded him to clean up his mess he made with the dead 3.
I know nothing about DnD outside BG3 so I’m just saying this theory out of my experience from the game. I think withers makes the player his chosen and as his chosen he offers advice and resurrects as needed. The only thing he asks in return is to be able to observe the journey.
This is exactly what I've been saying about the no souls illithid theory. In 3.5, there were texts to support the theory that they do still have souls, just not any form thats natural to this realm and their souls go to the alien gods they may or may not worship on their own plane, nothing the current gods are familiar with or understand. But most of those texts are considered non Canon now.
I've been playing through BG1 and I found a book about the dead three and Jergal and I'm completely convinced Withers is Jergal.
AO would 100% not get involved with this petty level of mortal affairs; the only reason we even know about him is the Time of Troubles and that was the first and last time mortals had any interaction with him and he was not there for their sake but to reestablish the deific balance that the gods had destroyed.
That's fair and thank you for clarifying. Definitely not the 'he' that Withers spoke of then. Any ideas for other candidates?
@@SamBram Yes. There were older datamined files from EA. It suggests that Helm is the one who told him to do it to make up for his mistake of releasing the Dead Three upon the world...now that does not make much sense but the files DID exist...so there's that.
@@spellandshield I guess the line could be a remnant from an earlier version of the game. I read briefly about the datamined Helm stuff when researching this video but decided not to mention it since it didn't fit with the clues found in the game and at a guess was ultimately rewritten. I don't know a tonne about Helm though, just the basic character Dossier stuff but if you're thinking along the same lines then that makes me more confident haha. I guess that line will just have to remain a bit of a mystery. For now...
@@SamBram It is weird and does not fit, lorewise. Helm has no authority over Jergal but BG3 does break a lot of rules.
I suppose this could also be foreshadowing of future content (not from Larian) ... games, novels, source books. While Ao does not care about mortals, he does care about gods, so he might have dispatched Withers/Jergal as the first move in an extended plan to depose the Three and pass along the portfolio to yet someone else. Pure speculation, of course.
Gonna be one of the best videos on the topic on UA-cam. Good job and well done.
Much appreciated. Thank you :)
29:52 Ah, that reminded me of spell divine intervention. Though, far less extraordinary...
Yo! New Sam content, and it's BG3! Fucking awesome! Thanks for all your hard work dude!
LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!! definitely upload more games
Ohh all your videos are good Sam! I was getting tired of Cyberpunk and was pleasantly surprised to see you do a BG3 lore video. Keep them coming!
Ed Greenwood recently confirmed withers to be an avatar of Jergal
Amazing video! So good. For four decades I've been deep in forgotten realms lore, this is so well researched both from the D&D lore perspective and the BG3 perspective. Amazing accomplishment for you!
Thank you, that means a lot! I was very careful with fact checking pretty much every sentence and it took a while so this is really nice to hear
This is a deep dive I never knew I needed. Fantasticly done man!!!!
Spoiler alert:
I called the Jergal connection when i was playing a "redeemed" Dark Urge that rejected Baal's gift. Baal kills you and Withers more or less reveals himself as Jergal and says, "Nope."
It also had an interesting prologue when I chose to become a mindflayer (role-playing that I was doing it knowing it'd be sacrificing my soul as penance).
I noticed when my Cleric of Kelemvor had his first interaction with Withers. I suspected Jergal shenanigans from the start.
@@LoreFoundry Yeah, that "redeemed" was a Paladin, so I also passed the Divinity check on Withers, but wasn't certain until that later scene.
I called the Jergal connection literally the moment he crawled out of the coffin, during early access.
The main reason I did this is because I had played Baldur's gate one.
In that game, you learn quite a bit about the history of jergal and the dead three.
Now, it wasn't that reasoning, but simply intuition. I knew about Jergal, at all, that's why I guessed such.
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If you have sought company that cold, lonely night, Withers would butt in with a "reminder" that all pleasures of the flesh are temporary and hold no true value... or something... The guy has no notion of personal boundaries whatsoever. Absolutely fantastic character in both, concept and execution.
He calls them a “bosom companion” 💀
Remember that in time all becomes dust and bone he says BUT if you have no romanced companion he will say something about not seeking the comfort of others, no matter what you answer as excuse or dismissal he will retort: Yet thou art alone.
There is NO pleasing the guy with your sex life
@@mahmud7645 Neh, the guy is clearly bored. The fact that he actually butts-in I find hilarious.
great video, many thanks for the well organized explenation of withers
Let's not forget that Kelemvor is not the god of death. He is the god of the balance between life and death. His symbol is literally scales of balance
This was a good ass video. I loved every second of it. I have 1100 hours in bg3 and still haven't seen some of those scenes you showed. Incredible
It was a real pleasure meeting Jergal in the game ! But I feel that more than just Cyric, we could also have been facing Malak the Beastlord, since he also coveted Jergal's Throne of Bones and tried to compete with the Dead Three for it, only to be deceived by a quite unwilling Final Scribe
Really well researched and presented.
It felt so appropriate as resist durge to respec from sorcerer to great old one warlock after the orin fight.
I thought this Withers was going to be the dude that maintains the Tomb of Annihilation for Acererak...
the spear in the temple is called the “watchers guide” he says his main job is too just observe and there are books on life death and resurrection all over his first temple not just the book of dead gods loved this video i think withers is cool definitely my favorite version of a grim reaper
Bruh, he's the accountant who cooks the books when you slip him a Benjamin.
Awesome vid! Thanks!
Wow, I am blown away by this. Learned a lot. Sub'd.
Also Cleric of Kelevor creates some unique dialog with Withers in both the tomb, and at camp to try to figure out what he is.
I love him. Always calm, respectful and properly articulated. And I respec a lot. He's my MVP.
Excellent first choice dude 🎉
You've missed the moment when Withers is getting angry if you'll kill at the ending party, still this confirms balance keeping.
There's developer notes in the game files that confirm that he is Jergal himself, and that he was entombed and is now helping the party under the orders of Helm, as punishment or duty for allowing the Dead Three to become gods
Satisfyingly incorporating the Pratchett-esque
Very definitive explaination, thanks
yo, this is cool that you are doing bg3 lore, big fan of cyberpunk stuff
i personally didn't play the game yet, so I'll save it for later
in the meantime leaving a like and comment for algo stuff 😚🤗
I call him Grandpa Withers. Indirectly he's kind of that to my Durge. Particularly after being redeemed. Lol
Withers, the Great Equaliser😂
Part of the role of Gods in the D+D setting is tied to their very important portfolio they hold, and their power is drawn partially from their followers performing the acts that their followers perform. So it's not a total loss for the three chaos makers are still feeding off their followers actions. They may not have the souls, but the act of killing could be feeding them as well.
As well for the multiple bodies, gods have the ability to maintain several avatars in a world, and it would be quite possible for him to maintain a few at a time, probably reduced once his domain was reduced. I wouldn't be shocked if the reason he appeared in front of the acolyte was simply to test the acolyte to see if he was worthy of being an emissary or avatar.
Also I find it deeply hilarious he offers the resurrection spell at like 1/10th the cost of the tabletop.
(Spoken as a longtime DM and possible ignorance because I have not played the game yet.)
Oh man my favorite cyberpunk channel makes baldurs gate videos?! Yes!
Yay more bg3 content ❤❤
- Rise from the dead
- Speak a clue
- Refuse to elaborate
- leave
what a chad
I'd come to realize Withers was something far more than he initially appeared but wasn't sure what. This video pretty well explains it.
I do enjoy Withers’ dry sense of humor. ☺️
I always interpreted "this is the price of balance" as the devs speaking to the player.
yah, that was one question i thought about some time - and your explanation satisfy my curiosity
even though i'd like to know who "he" is - at first i thought it was Jergal he was referring, but he is Jergal himself, well...
but overall, that's the story behind the story, the grand scheme
You are absolutely one of the best upcoming gaming youtubers. Very well made and in-depth videos. I found you from the Cyberpunk vids. Keep up the gooöd work Sam!
Just in Time to Eat and Drink Coffee. Sweet
Would be cool if you could get withers to recruit other characters you’ve created in other playthroughs
He's saying you're more powerful than an average human, but no more powerful than you were before, He's claiming rights to your soul and putting you back together, you're not immortal, but you will not die simply due to a lack of substance
Love this video and am 99.9% sure that you're right.
The only thing that gets me is that Jergal couldn't have been in that coffin for too long. The role of "god of death" has changed hands quite a few times (first Jergal, then Myrkul, then Cyric, then Kelemvor) and he's served as "seneschal" to each new comer, so theoretically he's been rather busy over the last couple hundred years.
Interestingly, as many times as he's been sidekick to the most recent god of death, you'd expect to have seen Withers pop up at some point prior to BG3 by the command of one of the masters he volunteered to serve. At the same time, though, Kelemvor is the first time he's been okay with the way somebody else was doing Jergal's original job since, well, Jergal was doing the job, so it's possible that, as he chose to step down, he's choosing when and where to obey. (As I understand it, Jergal is the oldest of all the gods, including perhaps even Ao, so giving him commands must be pretty tricky no matter which god is doing it; i.e., it's entirely possible that Jergal basically sent himself and is referring to his own avatar in the third person when he indicates that someone sent him. We see this kind of thing happening in the Holy Trinity in Christianity, for instance, so the idea wouldn't be without precedent.)
WELL Jergal wasn't really bored over his position. He enacted a plan, and it's very complex. You can look it up in the lore.
Withers has the wholesomeness of death from the discworld. ❤
I appreciate this video a lot! I tried my best to interact and read everything in the game but I was not able to connect all the dots.
In my dream world there will be a BG4 where Warlock Mol, Arabella, and Yenna are party members
Withers is the best. I will never forget the first time I met him - scared he was a lich and I was done for, only to realise I gained a powerful if mysterious friend.
I can't believe I've been pickpocketing a god all this time. I've also found a nice exploit for him specifically, where if you spam the button to attempt to steal the gold before the screen changes back you can attempt to steal from him multiple times at once, and even after you succeed if you did it fast enough the game can still roll again and fail, despite the gold already being in your inventory
He doesn't judge your actions but does tell you things thru the campaing, for example, i tried speed runing so i barely spoke to the party not even with the !. and wither keep up bugging that i was going to die alone
I actually found that journal in the mausoleum which help me realize who withers was
I like the idea of there being these specially prepared and adorned mummies for jergal to inhabit
Hell yeah more bg3
An interaction which I think really show more of Withers' personality happens if you kill another group member in the epilogue party.
Withers might also be a reference to some of Larians other games too, after all there's a Withersmoore in Divinity OS 2. (the name similaritys)
Withers had a good joke for me after I beat the game, remarking that I made Karlach carry all my loot.
the fact that this god that can bring dead people to life nonchalantly engages in conversation with a random child is hilarious
I found out that if you choose cleric as a class and the god of death as your diety you can actually do a wisdom check then a religion check to get a slight maybe answer from withers, he will even commend you on your efforts to reveal him.
36:40 Who's to say that ours is the only party Jergal is helping right this minute? Maybe in Chult there's some other world ending threat? Maybe that's why he has so many bodies around the world? ;)
Hmm. It seemed clear to me that Withers is not the scribe of the dead himself, but rather his chosen.
Withers is definitely Jergel. The description shows up on the loading screens I'm game. Original god of death, then kinda turned it over to the dead 3.
43 minutes vid of Withers? Yes please!
In my first game play, I bypassed his room entirely and was really confused when he popped up in my camp😅
withers really makes BG3 for me.
The difference between how he treats the party and how he treats Arabella may be quite simple. The party are a tool for a problem. So he can't get too attached. Arabella on the other is literally a chaotic element that he has to help train. She probably was not planned but the position she unintensionally took is very important and a heavy duty. So tutoring her in it now that she has it is something that forces genuine emotion from Withers.
Now do not mistake Arabella not being intended for the position as the position being not one that was long planned for by the gods. It may have been the position was such no one could be groomed for it so only the one who stumbled into it could be worthy of it.
His showing up during the dark urge play through was so cool
I had a run where Halsin walked through my spike growth directly after the portal fight while walking back to the Last Light Inn in the shadowlands and withers wouldn’t rez him! 😢
Withers is the vault salesman from FO4
Damn nice video
This is why I love Jergal. He doesn't represent the evil side of death. He sees it as a new beginning for that soul. Jergal life and death equally.