My favorite bit of lore is that they're travelers from the end of time, going back to 'correct' the mistake they made that lead to their downfall. They're basically stuck in a time loop because Mind Flayers are (as you can see in BG3) extremely arrogant and self-serving. They just can't learn from their mistakes, so they just build up the empire, lose the empire, then when nearly extinct they go back in time to try again. Over and over and over. Every campaign, every setting, every thing in existence is basically just another reality in which they are trying to correct their mistake. Also worth noting in an insanely creepy way: Mind Flayers have a strange relationship with Aboleths. Aboleths have extremely powerful memories, and their children inherent the memories of the parents, so forth and so forth. Therefore, Aboleths remember a time before the gods, in the primordial oceans of world. They've seen the rise and fall of countless civilizations. But the freaky part is they're terrified of Mind Flayers. Why? Aboleths don't know where the Mind Flayers came from. They have no memory of their origins. This gives credence to the theory that Mind Flayers are time travelers who travel back in time, remade their empire, lost it, again, and are now hurtling towards the inevitable time loop. It creates all sorts of freaky time paradoxes, which makes the Mind Flayers all the more interesting.
@@ANDELE3025 holy shit this hurts my head lol. I'm about to go on a deep dive to learn more about *Mind Flayers & Gith* ... any videos you would recommend for someone who's brand new too *DnD* and the *Baldurs Gate* universe? I've only played *DnD* for about 30 mins total a couple times and never played *Baldurs Gate 1 or 2* so I am now learning about tons of lore and history of this *Universe*
It's still so surreal that Larian started off as a company making games inspired by DnD and has now progressed to being the developers for the official DnD game.
I have a lot of affection for the Gith, mostly from having Dak'kon as a companion in Planescape: Torment. The Unbroken Circle of Zerthimon is possibly my favourite piece of lore from an RPG, which talks about the history of the Gith and the Illithid.
Same. I really wish the githzerai was a playable gith subrace in BG3, but I guess it would require too much work for proper reactivity and would add another layer to the game's already complex lore.
I second this. I've never been into min maxing, especially in RP heavy games like Baldurs Gate. Obviously everyone can play their games how they like, but it's annoying to see so much content for this game revolving around "broken OP builds" or "best class/party composition" or whatever, while being genuinely hard to find content that leans more towards RP. Even just interesting RP builds, or unusual dialogue choices and story outcomes would be cool to watch. But everyone always goes for the same choices to get the highest numbers, and the most perma buffs and what not. Ugh... anyway, rant over.
Mort, dude, getting sponsored by Larian is absolutely incredible. It's been incredible to see you grow so quickly. Hope both you and your son are doing well.
As a D&D Planescape nerd I want to add two things: 1) Ilsensine is a "deity" of sorts of Mindflayers, living in the Outlands. Nobody knows its plans... But I bet it isn't happy with the BG3 situation. 2) Cranium Rats! Rats with clearly visible brain matter. They are spies for the Mindflayers (although there is a hive mind in Sigil that broke free from the illithid control with the help of a gith ratcatcher). You actually can meet cranium rats in the sewers under Baldur's Gate... (and if you're anything like me you'll kill them on sight).
Man, you did really well covering them in a timely manner and hitting all the major points. Like many others, the Gith and Mindflayers have always been one of my favorite settings. I am sp happy to keep seeing this channel grow. You should link those lore videos in the description or the comments lol.
I live the fact that Larian is willing to just let you tuber do their thing and sponsor them, its sutch a symbiotic relationship for creator and compagnies
I would love more lore videos like this. There was so much content in the game that I had no idea what they were talking about. I had to keep Googling things to fully understand.
For someone like me who is completely new to Baldur's Gate and the general Dungeons & Dragon world, it would help immensely to see a video like this that hopefully explains the relationship between the Grinch (The Githyanki) and Mindflayers. I haven't seen the video yet but will do it in a few hours, later tonight, when I'm home and have time, but will save this one in the "Watch Later" category.
The video speeds over certain details. Essentially: the gith were once humans long ago, from a different planet. When the Mind Flayers came to their planet in ancient times, they were kidnapped and enslaved. And then, they were subjects of selective breeding. They bred them to grow the tastiest, most psionically nutritious brains. They bred them to reproduce asexually (this is why they have humanoid genitals despite not using them for reproduction). By the end of it, they were no longer recognizable as human. They were cattle. However, breeding them to have psionic brains would be the mind flayer's downfall. When Gith was born, she possessed a powerful psionic mutation which disrupted hive mind communication. She bided her time, she prepared her people and organized them, then she unleashed her power. Slaves were freed from domination, illithids could no longer communicate. Within just one year countless elder brains were slain, such that the illithid empire crumbled and the survivors went into hiding. The Gith people took their leader’s name for their own. But then divisions began to form: Gith wanted to hunt down the remaining mindflayers, and then establish a multiplanar empire such that the gith could conquer the multiverse. Zerthimon argued that this would end in the same kind of tyranny their people just escaped. The Gith race split: the Githyanki are those who followed Gith, and Githzerai are those who followed Zerthimon.
All the way back to the start, but with the recognition you deserve for the years or work you’ve put into your channel. Looking forward to the Baldur’s Gate 3 lore supercut.
When comes to the sbubjest of Gith most people will no doubt think about dak'kon form Planescape torment ( and for good resaons, he's wey well written character ), tho that choice is kind of ironic - he supposed to be outcast among his people, yet he established most of the modern D&D lore about them.
Sounds kind of like a certain drow. People do love the outcasts. (Sometimes a little too much. The number of spelling variations on Drizzt I used to see in MMOs... 😂)
I wish Githzherai were playable, would be interesting to see reactivity, some people confusing them with Githyanki and Lae'zel being pissed off. Dak'kon in Planescape:Torment was a very interesting character. There is even a popular fan theory about Zerthimon being Nameless one (he was the one who gave Dak'kon this Circle of Zerthimon), but it's just that, fan theory.
Mind Flayers have always been my favorite DND enemy faction, (Maybe because CoC is my favorite TTRPG) so having them play such a prominent role in BG3 is great. My first playthrough has been mostly pure evil with the sole goal of getting most of my party to have as many tadpoles as possible. Just started Act 3, so looking forward to the fallout.
A god damn Larian sponsorship awesome! Fun fact for anyone despite the appearance in the game in the table top goblins have dagger like teeth and no lips
You need an Owlcat games and an Obsidian sponsorship too. You're the one covering the best games out there:) Also we do get a githzerai cleric companion in NWN 2 for the bit of lore she shares.
So cool Larian sponsered you in a lore video! I hope they do the same in a future Divinity game. By the way, congrats on your first video with 1 million views!
Id add that we actually know that Elder brain is spawned from Ulitharid - very rare more powerful mind flayer that eventually takes about half of orthers and leaves to settle new colony eventually becoming Elder Brain.
There is a message on screen when I talk about it pointing people to the Ulitharids if they want more elder brain info, but they don't show up in BG3 so I didn't want to confuse people too much.
i must ask is it possible you tell a whole bg3 story as a TAV pov ? and the reason why I'm asking this is that it would be easier to show the story in video format when trying to tell it to someone who doesn't know what Baldur's Gate 3 is. I would greatly appreciate it
3.5e got really weird with Illithids by the end of their run. Monster Manual 5 has some crazy mind-flayer based things in it. Personally, I like The Far Realm as their origin.
Just so you know, you are feeding my Mindflayer video addiction. I don't get tired of hearing (potentially) the same information from different voices. Please tell me more about the Grand Design and the 6 tentacled mind flayer royals and the one mindflayer prohesized to ruin them all or whatever. Don't forget about their method of reproduction. That's the good stuff. P.S I have run out of mindfflayer lore videos to watch, anyone know any D&D story video channels with the Mindflayers front and center.
could you do a video of characters in 3 that appeared in 1 and 2? couldnt find any after a quick search on UA-cam. (I know there's the full story recaps, but only interested in the reappeared characters)
If you’re looking for ideas for more videos a lot series on the history of the forgotten realms setting/universe would be cool! It’s changed so much over the years it’s hard to keep track for us casual fans.
Oh I would LOVE to know what Tiamat gets out of the deal with the Githyanki. Is it just because dragons get tadpoled too? At least in the BG3 intro cinematic the red dragon looked extremely pissed off when the nautiloid escaped for the final time. Is there lore on how the dragons travel between planes? Oh lord this rabbit hole.
What makes Gith unique is her ability to completely disrupt and neutralize psionics thanks to a genetic mutation unknowingly granted by the experiments mindflayers performed on the race as whole. Presumably Tiamat wants that nearby. Theres also a bit more too it that involves the current gith ruler Vlaakith and her role in it. As a funny sidenote, mindflayers actually made the same mistake again that led to the creation of the duergar dwarves who also revolted against them.
Does the lore explain why the Emperor turns his back on your and runs to the elder brain the second you decide to try the Orpheus path? Even if he's been manipulating you until that moment, what can he potentially gain out of it? I can understand if he runs on his own or something, but getting back to thralldom?
I think this is explained in game. Spoilers obviously. The Emperor was bound to the elder brain known as The Absolute. When he was taken to Moonrise and changed, he bound to it, but was able to break free with help. Gortash found him and returned him to the brain, enslaving him again. He was sent to find the Astral Prism, along with other Mind Flayers, and was the first to locate it. Once he got his hands on it, it released him from the power of the brain and he had freedom once again. Separate from the Prism, he would return to the brain anyway. He also likely figures that Orpheus would kill him the first chance he had when he woke up. he had no choice, because once Orpheus awoke, he'd be enthralled again and killed if he stayed. Returning to the brain gives him a chance that he'll be free again if the brain is defeated or find another way. Staying meant he'd die no matter what. I suppose it's possible Orpheus could have kept him shielded from the Absolute, but the Emperor assumes that Orpheus would kill him right away instead, both for being a Mind Flayer and for keeping him enchained.
As far as I've read, the Emperor's self preservation trumps everything, like the situation with him pre-emptively striking first on Ansur. I think the Emperor believed he had a chance of escaping the Elder Brain once again versus being certain that Orpheus would destroy him as soon as he was released from captivity. That's kind of what I've gathered though from what I've seen and read on a few different threads.
Also Orpheus seems to know what you did in a astral prism, which mean he might know Emperor antics, without ability for latter to persuade him thus consider Emperor not worthy living and not an truly independent ghaik. I guess if we had Omeluum in place of Emperor Orpheus might not kill him.
@@jonk8916 Right, but why not make a run for it instead? Is the Netherbrain range unlimited or something, so he would risk everything on the off chance that someone defeats the brain (and conveniently decided to let him live afterwards, even though the practically backstabed everyone), instead of running? I can understand him being reluctant to stick around once Orpheus is free, but was running back to the Netherbrain the next best option? To me at least, makes no sense, and was a huge WTF moment.
@@darius9534 Well sure, but as with the above argument, wasn't running away an option? Not to mention Orpheus was very quick to make a compromise "for the greater good", so he might have even spared him until the brain is dealt with. Which again gives him plenty of wiggle room.
Yes, they do, just like preety much all living beeings in DnD. As for trust, well, vast majority ( almost all ) of them are evil, self-serving, manipulative and fanaticaly racist. Neutral of even good ones exists, but are RARE
Wow Larian themselves! Congratulations Mort, well deserved.
Thanks to this video, the game's prologue finally makes sense: The role of the red dragons, who is riding them, etc.
Some of you don't wander in wisdom, and it shows.
Legendary channel tbh top 3 on all of youtube.
My favorite bit of lore is that they're travelers from the end of time, going back to 'correct' the mistake they made that lead to their downfall. They're basically stuck in a time loop because Mind Flayers are (as you can see in BG3) extremely arrogant and self-serving. They just can't learn from their mistakes, so they just build up the empire, lose the empire, then when nearly extinct they go back in time to try again. Over and over and over. Every campaign, every setting, every thing in existence is basically just another reality in which they are trying to correct their mistake.
Also worth noting in an insanely creepy way: Mind Flayers have a strange relationship with Aboleths. Aboleths have extremely powerful memories, and their children inherent the memories of the parents, so forth and so forth. Therefore, Aboleths remember a time before the gods, in the primordial oceans of world. They've seen the rise and fall of countless civilizations. But the freaky part is they're terrified of Mind Flayers. Why? Aboleths don't know where the Mind Flayers came from. They have no memory of their origins. This gives credence to the theory that Mind Flayers are time travelers who travel back in time, remade their empire, lost it, again, and are now hurtling towards the inevitable time loop. It creates all sorts of freaky time paradoxes, which makes the Mind Flayers all the more interesting.
@@ANDELE3025 holy shit this hurts my head lol. I'm about to go on a deep dive to learn more about *Mind Flayers & Gith* ... any videos you would recommend for someone who's brand new too *DnD* and the *Baldurs Gate* universe? I've only played *DnD* for about 30 mins total a couple times and never played *Baldurs Gate 1 or 2* so I am now learning about tons of lore and history of this *Universe*
It's still so surreal that Larian started off as a company making games inspired by DnD and has now progressed to being the developers for the official DnD game.
No other channel deserves such a sponsorship more. GG morty.
Lore vids...ahhhhhhh yes!
And sponsored by Larian.
About time and congratulations!
Larian asked you to talk about BG3 lore? Heck yes! You deserve it for all of your hard work
I have a lot of affection for the Gith, mostly from having Dak'kon as a companion in Planescape: Torment. The Unbroken Circle of Zerthimon is possibly my favourite piece of lore from an RPG, which talks about the history of the Gith and the Illithid.
Yeah I see a fellow person of culture! I tip my hat to you.
Yea, Dak'kon is one of the best of all time.
Same. I really wish the githzerai was a playable gith subrace in BG3, but I guess it would require too much work for proper reactivity and would add another layer to the game's already complex lore.
Githzerai lore was really explored in planescape torment
Endure
I'm glad larian picked you. You are easily the best bg3 content creator on UA-cam. Pushing for rp over min maxing is very refreshing too.
I second this. I've never been into min maxing, especially in RP heavy games like Baldurs Gate. Obviously everyone can play their games how they like, but it's annoying to see so much content for this game revolving around "broken OP builds" or "best class/party composition" or whatever, while being genuinely hard to find content that leans more towards RP. Even just interesting RP builds, or unusual dialogue choices and story outcomes would be cool to watch. But everyone always goes for the same choices to get the highest numbers, and the most perma buffs and what not. Ugh... anyway, rant over.
Mort, dude, getting sponsored by Larian is absolutely incredible. It's been incredible to see you grow so quickly. Hope both you and your son are doing well.
As a D&D Planescape nerd I want to add two things:
1) Ilsensine is a "deity" of sorts of Mindflayers, living in the Outlands. Nobody knows its plans... But I bet it isn't happy with the BG3 situation.
2) Cranium Rats! Rats with clearly visible brain matter. They are spies for the Mindflayers (although there is a hive mind in Sigil that broke free from the illithid control with the help of a gith ratcatcher). You actually can meet cranium rats in the sewers under Baldur's Gate... (and if you're anything like me you'll kill them on sight).
Yo! Congrats on the larian-sponsored lore vid! Full circle, pretty cool
Mindflayers are actually kinda badass. But if I was one, admittedly, I would be using disguise self every day lol.
Larian and Bethesda fighting over lining Mortym's pockets is incredible 🙏 I'm playing a Gith dark urge warlock
Man, you did really well covering them in a timely manner and hitting all the major points. Like many others, the Gith and Mindflayers have always been one of my favorite settings.
I am sp happy to keep seeing this channel grow. You should link those lore videos in the description or the comments lol.
Congrats. :). Fun to see Larian sponsoring some of my favorite UA-camers, you and Wolfheart I have seen so far.
I live the fact that Larian is willing to just let you tuber do their thing and sponsor them, its sutch a symbiotic relationship for creator and compagnies
I would love more lore videos like this. There was so much content in the game that I had no idea what they were talking about. I had to keep Googling things to fully understand.
I liked Illithid campaigns when I played tabletop back in DnD 3.5. So when Larian showed them in their trailers for the game, I got so excited.
Finally appreciated by Larian as you should be Mort.. you've done a lot to promote their games.
Happy to hear that!
Wow they asked you for this themselves? That's actually really cool. Hope you do more videos like this in the future
For someone like me who is completely new to Baldur's Gate and the general Dungeons & Dragon world, it would help immensely to see a video like this that hopefully explains the relationship between the Grinch (The Githyanki) and Mindflayers.
I haven't seen the video yet but will do it in a few hours, later tonight, when I'm home and have time, but will save this one in the "Watch Later" category.
Quick summary; the Gith are a slave race which rebelled against the mind flayers.
The video speeds over certain details. Essentially: the gith were once humans long ago, from a different planet. When the Mind Flayers came to their planet in ancient times, they were kidnapped and enslaved. And then, they were subjects of selective breeding. They bred them to grow the tastiest, most psionically nutritious brains. They bred them to reproduce asexually (this is why they have humanoid genitals despite not using them for reproduction). By the end of it, they were no longer recognizable as human. They were cattle.
However, breeding them to have psionic brains would be the mind flayer's downfall. When Gith was born, she possessed a powerful psionic mutation which disrupted hive mind communication. She bided her time, she prepared her people and organized them, then she unleashed her power. Slaves were freed from domination, illithids could no longer communicate. Within just one year countless elder brains were slain, such that the illithid empire crumbled and the survivors went into hiding.
The Gith people took their leader’s name for their own. But then divisions began to form: Gith wanted to hunt down the remaining mindflayers, and then establish a multiplanar empire such that the gith could conquer the multiverse. Zerthimon argued that this would end in the same kind of tyranny their people just escaped. The Gith race split: the Githyanki are those who followed Gith, and Githzerai are those who followed Zerthimon.
All the way back to the start, but with the recognition you deserve for the years or work you’ve put into your channel. Looking forward to the Baldur’s Gate 3 lore supercut.
Few cool tidbits I had never picked up but added good context to my BG3 play through.
You deadset legend :)
You totally deserve Swen love.
You've been sharing the Divinity lore so long.
Man, after BG3 there was a ton of new Mind Flayer lore added, I wonder if it'll be incorporated into D&D at some point.
Oh sweet baby jesus PLEASE DO MORE BG3 LORE! PLEASE I AM STARVING! Pointed, informative, fast moving, perfect.
If Mindflayers came from the future, they’re responsible for the 1st savescum
When comes to the sbubjest of Gith most people will no doubt think about dak'kon form Planescape torment ( and for good resaons, he's wey well written character ), tho that choice is kind of ironic - he supposed to be outcast among his people, yet he established most of the modern D&D lore about them.
Sounds kind of like a certain drow. People do love the outcasts.
(Sometimes a little too much. The number of spelling variations on Drizzt I used to see in MMOs... 😂)
Glad they reached out to your channel!
You should do a short video on Whiters, a short or few minutes on him for ppl to appreciate him a bit more :)
Great video! Loved the editing at the end to close it out.
I've never been happier about a videos' sponsorship. Well done, my dude!
Mindflayers are such cool villains I used them in my tabletop campaign as well.
I wish Githzherai were playable, would be interesting to see reactivity, some people confusing them with Githyanki and Lae'zel being pissed off. Dak'kon in Planescape:Torment was a very interesting character. There is even a popular fan theory about Zerthimon being Nameless one (he was the one who gave Dak'kon this Circle of Zerthimon), but it's just that, fan theory.
I agree with the others. I'm glad Larian is giving your channel its due credit. Onward to 300k. All glory to the algorithm.
Thanks you this. I have been fascinated with mind flares since the forgotten realms stories.
Great video. I hope Larian keeps this relationship going. I can never get enough lore videos.
Would love to see more lore vids like this! Never played D&D so all of this is super interesting
I love these lore videos as it's tough to find this information anywhere else.
You are one of the most deserving game reviewers. 😊
I love the lore videos Larian are sponsoring. Already saw another one yesterday from another channel.
Wow!!! Nice man... Congratulations and amazing video as always!
Great video! Nice to see a sponsor from Larian!
Mind Flayers have always been my favorite DND enemy faction, (Maybe because CoC is my favorite TTRPG) so having them play such a prominent role in BG3 is great. My first playthrough has been mostly pure evil with the sole goal of getting most of my party to have as many tadpoles as possible. Just started Act 3, so looking forward to the fallout.
Congrats Mort on the Larian sponsorship. Your passion has paid off.
Congrats on the sponsorship!! deserved!!
A god damn Larian sponsorship awesome! Fun fact for anyone despite the appearance in the game in the table top goblins have dagger like teeth and no lips
Fuck yesh, Larian sponsor!!! You deserve that more than any other channel :)
And ah, aberrations... let us grab "Lords of Madness" and rejoice.
Well deserved sponsorship, congrats!
Congratilations on the sponsorship!
Amazing videos and congratz ! And personally i would love if this becomes a series !
Great video, glad to see you partnering with a great company for lore deep dives :)
It's about time that Larian finally noticed you! Congrats
This actually really cool to watch! I'm up for more of such videos :)
You need an Owlcat games and an Obsidian sponsorship too. You're the one covering the best games out there:) Also we do get a githzerai cleric companion in NWN 2 for the bit of lore she shares.
Nice vid - makes BG3 even more immersive.
Larian is awesome for supporting good creators. Congrats!
Gz on the sponsorship! Great video 👍
Ahhh thanks for this! This sure brought back memories of solving the unbroken circle of zerthimon!
So cool Larian sponsered you in a lore video! I hope they do the same in a future Divinity game. By the way, congrats on your first video with 1 million views!
Omg you got sponsored by them ❤❤ congrats so well deserved!!
Much of this I didn't know. Thanks for all the info! ^_^
Congrats on the sponsorship. I imagen this one meant something given how your channel started.
Congrats these videos are great for everyone involved
Well deserved, love your content!
I'm glad that larian asked ! Well deserved !
Congrats Mort, you got the big promotions now!
Yaay new lore, I watched your PoE lore videos ❤ Maybe one lore video on Warhammer 40k when Rogue Trader releases? (I love 40k lore 😁)
Id add that we actually know that Elder brain is spawned from Ulitharid - very rare more powerful mind flayer that eventually takes about half of orthers and leaves to settle new colony eventually becoming Elder Brain.
There is a message on screen when I talk about it pointing people to the Ulitharids if they want more elder brain info, but they don't show up in BG3 so I didn't want to confuse people too much.
@@MortismalGaming sorry there :) i was listening to this one instead of watching
WOW! I have learned so much! Thank you!
Playing the game so far i hate these creatures but after hearing your story i kinda sympathize with them now. Great video man
This was very helpful, I am new to all this. Thanks.
Please keep those lore videos coming!
Great content. Good sponsorship choice. A+ all around
I think its weird they made a while game about Mindflayers and psychic powers but did not add Aberration (Psychic) Sorcerors
Congratulations, great video!
Congrats Mort on the sponsorship you deserve it 🎊🎊
I love the lore vids, thank you!
i must ask is it possible you tell a whole bg3 story as a TAV pov ?
and the reason why I'm asking this is that it would be easier to show the story in video format when trying to tell it to someone who doesn't know what Baldur's Gate 3 is. I would greatly appreciate it
Thanks! Maybe at some point, but not any time soon
@@MortismalGaming awesome! i can't wait :)
That’s the content I was looking for 🎉❤ thanks
Dude congrats on the sponsor!
Great video Mort 🎉
3.5e got really weird with Illithids by the end of their run. Monster Manual 5 has some crazy mind-flayer based things in it.
Personally, I like The Far Realm as their origin.
Just so you know, you are feeding my Mindflayer video addiction.
I don't get tired of hearing (potentially) the same information from different voices.
Please tell me more about the Grand Design and the 6 tentacled mind flayer royals and the one mindflayer prohesized to ruin them all or whatever. Don't forget about their method of reproduction. That's the good stuff.
P.S I have run out of mindfflayer lore videos to watch, anyone know any D&D story video channels with the Mindflayers front and center.
could you do a video of characters in 3 that appeared in 1 and 2? couldnt find any after a quick search on UA-cam. (I know there's the full story recaps, but only interested in the reappeared characters)
Great job. I love it.
Great video!❤
Kudos man !
Thanks Mortismal :)
If you’re looking for ideas for more videos a lot series on the history of the forgotten realms setting/universe would be cool! It’s changed so much over the years it’s hard to keep track for us casual fans.
Oh I would LOVE to know what Tiamat gets out of the deal with the Githyanki. Is it just because dragons get tadpoled too? At least in the BG3 intro cinematic the red dragon looked extremely pissed off when the nautiloid escaped for the final time. Is there lore on how the dragons travel between planes? Oh lord this rabbit hole.
What makes Gith unique is her ability to completely disrupt and neutralize psionics thanks to a genetic mutation unknowingly granted by the experiments mindflayers performed on the race as whole. Presumably Tiamat wants that nearby. Theres also a bit more too it that involves the current gith ruler Vlaakith and her role in it. As a funny sidenote, mindflayers actually made the same mistake again that led to the creation of the duergar dwarves who also revolted against them.
Lore videos are back!
I want beholder lores next
Does the lore explain why the Emperor turns his back on your and runs to the elder brain the second you decide to try the Orpheus path? Even if he's been manipulating you until that moment, what can he potentially gain out of it? I can understand if he runs on his own or something, but getting back to thralldom?
I think this is explained in game. Spoilers obviously.
The Emperor was bound to the elder brain known as The Absolute. When he was taken to Moonrise and changed, he bound to it, but was able to break free with help. Gortash found him and returned him to the brain, enslaving him again. He was sent to find the Astral Prism, along with other Mind Flayers, and was the first to locate it. Once he got his hands on it, it released him from the power of the brain and he had freedom once again.
Separate from the Prism, he would return to the brain anyway. He also likely figures that Orpheus would kill him the first chance he had when he woke up. he had no choice, because once Orpheus awoke, he'd be enthralled again and killed if he stayed. Returning to the brain gives him a chance that he'll be free again if the brain is defeated or find another way. Staying meant he'd die no matter what. I suppose it's possible Orpheus could have kept him shielded from the Absolute, but the Emperor assumes that Orpheus would kill him right away instead, both for being a Mind Flayer and for keeping him enchained.
As far as I've read, the Emperor's self preservation trumps everything, like the situation with him pre-emptively striking first on Ansur. I think the Emperor believed he had a chance of escaping the Elder Brain once again versus being certain that Orpheus would destroy him as soon as he was released from captivity.
That's kind of what I've gathered though from what I've seen and read on a few different threads.
Also Orpheus seems to know what you did in a astral prism, which mean he might know Emperor antics, without ability for latter to persuade him thus consider Emperor not worthy living and not an truly independent ghaik. I guess if we had Omeluum in place of Emperor Orpheus might not kill him.
@@jonk8916 Right, but why not make a run for it instead? Is the Netherbrain range unlimited or something, so he would risk everything on the off chance that someone defeats the brain (and conveniently decided to let him live afterwards, even though the practically backstabed everyone), instead of running? I can understand him being reluctant to stick around once Orpheus is free, but was running back to the Netherbrain the next best option? To me at least, makes no sense, and was a huge WTF moment.
@@darius9534 Well sure, but as with the above argument, wasn't running away an option? Not to mention Orpheus was very quick to make a compromise "for the greater good", so he might have even spared him until the brain is dealt with. Which again gives him plenty of wiggle room.
I think the people are gonna want a DOS new player guide, for those coming from bg3
The more I hear about Mindflayers, the more I want to romance one :D
I need more tentacle daddy, Larian!
Mortim Do mind flayers have souls?
Hypothetically would you trust a mind flayer?
Yes, they do, just like preety much all living beeings in DnD. As for trust, well, vast majority ( almost all ) of them are evil, self-serving, manipulative and fanaticaly racist. Neutral of even good ones exists, but are RARE
......-DOMINATE-......-kneel-....-DOMINATE-...-subjugate-....-reunite- -dominate-...-KNEEL-.
Mind flayers are amazing kissers as well