I really liked that Chilchuck was the one to open up first like that. A subtle way to help Senshi feel more comfortable telling them about his past, because up until now Chil has been extremely protective about his personal life. It was a really nice character moment
He's really one of the eldest in the group, considering their respective race's average lifespan. Whatever his personal issue with his family, he took his job very seriously and Senshi's wellbeing is central to their group's longevity in the dungeon right now.
In the manga they elaborate on that joke on one of the mini episodes after the volume ends. It ends up showing that he actually taught him the way that dryad flowers reproduce with each other, which actually ends up giving him a sort of appreciation for life or the way it all works. It's a fun misdirection that ends up in a still funny bit. Look it up, it's a 1 page gag, you can find it by searching "senshi explains dryads to chilchuck" in google :))
Alrighty, I'm ready to learn some dwarven lore about Senshi's past! **starts playing diggy diggy hole** **suddently hears "Hello darkness, my old friend..."**
goats have horizontal rectangular pupils, the closest pupil in nature to magic thistles would be something like a vertical beaded pupil, found in some geckos and fish, though theres not really a good matchup
I actually really like when anime goes off model a bit for heightened emotion or action. Its an opportunity for animators to really flex and get expressive with their creative juices. Like really go wild with the medium beyond just re-creating panels off the manga. I especially love it when animators like Kouki Fujimoto or Yutaka Nakamura go wild and play with the 3D space. Or in Yutaka Nakamura's case just flex every possible way to sell an IMPACT of an action while playin around with thr 3d space like he has for basically every cut he's done in the previous decade. Probably one of the reasons I adore the adaptation of Mob Psycho 100 is it's sketchy rough art style gave so much leeway for animators to go hog wild with the animation. Despite how rough ONE's art was, It really knew how to sell action and emotion in its panels and thst translated really well under the different lenses of many animators of the anime.
I really like the transitions between styles, personally. Since they tend to lean on Kanno for more action-heavy cuts, it gives the show an entirely different feel when things get real dangerous. The first time I really felt that was the Undine fight, which is also (not coincidentally) the first fight they have to full-on pull out of because it messes them up so bad and almost kills Marcille. Cutting this with comedy shots also makes the juxtaposition funnier imo because it becomes full-on juxtaposition of the work against itself from theme to styles and is more jarring in a funny way.
Jawn! They changed the Chilchuck reveal in english! In the OG-Manga scene he says "Daughter", a definite singular, and now he sads Kid*s*! xD They took away the future secondary reveal!
No, in the OG manga he says something in Japanese, a language which does not explicitly pluralize words like English does. So if Chilchuck didn't specify, it could be one or multiple daughters. The original manga translator didn't know it was multiple, because that hadn't been revealed in story yet.
@@nnelg8139 ...oh thats an interesting thing. The german Dub explicitly says "Tochter" aka Daughter Singular The manga translation I read also said Daughter.
@@Excelsius_Cerell you are right that the knowledge that it's multiple is an additional reveal, but the only way to do that in English or similar languages is to have Chillchuck go out of his way to use singular now, when plural is more natural. It'd also be a minor lie, which doesn't mesh with the notion he's being unusually open and honest here.
I LOVE HOW THE "GRIFFON" ACTS. THE WAY IT KICKS AND MY KNOWLEDGE OF MYTHOLOGY LET ME FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS, ALONG WITH LAIOS. I'M SO PROUD OF MYSELF FOR GETTING IT
> he still thinks of himself as a benevolent guardian The worst thing: he IS a benevolent guardian... in a sense, because he tries to use cursed book as little as possible.
Without exaggaration I honestly watch the Dungeon Meshi anime *for* the stylistic departures. As much as I love and enjoy Kui's artwork, it's the animators' embelishments and artistic choices that elevate the material in the adaptation. I get to see, and discuss what animators saw in source material as important and worth celebrating or preserving.
I'm pretty sure dwarves originated in the east. There was a war between the east and west between the dwarves and elves. And considering the elves are from the west the Draves are inferred to be from the east.
oh wow I learned something about knife grips today. I used the point grip probably because I subconsciously picked it up from anime until a boyfriend was like "no you have to grip it this way" because apparently I was doing it wrong. It is very satisfying to know I wasn't doing it wrong at all
This anime looks awesome... I just cant get past the first episode They build up too much urgency with the first couple of scenes. And instantly kill it by going around cooking and chilling. If my sister that sacrificed herself to save me is on a dead timer, i would be a lil more worried and in a hurry. Someone told me they are like that cause she can be revived, but that just removes completely the threat of death in the story =/ Also, there are other 2 characters in the dragon fight, and no one gives a poop about them, they don't even mention them? What comes after the first episode looks really good, but just cant get past this =/
something that striked me outside of the animation: I was really startled when Marcil just cut off a big chunk of her hair, considering how precious it is to her.
I startled too, despite knowing this from manga, because in manga it was way smaller piece of hair, ang also was braided in a way that made me think it was meant to situations like this or similar
It's super jarring, but it makes sense. She's a neat freak for sure, but she also explained that hair is a vital part of spell casting, and having a lot of clean and ready ingredient for some spells would be helpful.
Interesting how outside of the usual clumsiness and nagging, she never hesitated at times like this. Whether it’s the elven laws, her cherished hair, or revolting food ingredients, Marcille can cross any line for her friends. And this devotion is more and more evident as every detail comes out from the plots.
The individual animators styles showing is so nice to see because an animated show didn't just spawn out of nowhere, its the work of so many individuals working together... at least let them put their creative signatures on it lol
This is not a modern-only approach, either. I remember watching Fist of the North Star in the 80s, as a kid, and episodes were clearly painted and animated by different people. So, to me, this feels kinda nostalgic too...
I thought this when I read the manga the first time... and what follows gave me critical psychic damage. I picture both Steven and Senshi in the same situation and it HURTS my soul.
I also commented about how Senshi was sort of Japanese on Tumblr and someone pointed out that in the extras for the oneshot she shows their Wizardry 3 classes and paths as she was conceptualizing them, and Senshi was a Samurai, which I think explains his (and following from that, the dwarven) "Japaneseness" In the original art for him, he's flatter faced and his beard is more wild, which makes him really seem like a sort of somewhat deranged ronin. From there, by the time he made it to serialization, his overall design became rounder and more handsome / less haggard.
When you combine that with the fact that (iirc) Toshiro is completely absent from the original oneshot, it seems like Kui decided to take what she had in mind and split it up into two separate characters. Which I definitely think worked out for the best lol
@@rivermichael4357 Yup, Toshiro and Namari didn't exist in the one shot, the original party is Laios, Marcille, Izutsumi, Senshi, and Chilchuck. Falin is still in the story / the party but the goal is still to rescue her. There's some other changes that were pretty smart between the two as well I think, like making Izutsumi show up later in the story and making her younger and more volatile.
Spoilers below I wonder if they will make it a half-and-half thing and try to squeeze some of the changeling stuff in or if they're going for a fully senshi centric episode, making ep 24 the changeling one. One thing is clear though, from how things look, they're definitely ending the season on chapter 52
The Skyfish and chips opens another avenue of cooking, specifically fine dining. Marcille dismissed Laios' idea to incorporate familiars in cooking, but a suitably culinary and artistic magus can take the culinary world by storm by providing dinner and a show to the world's elite
@@rowanheart8122 Which is why I said fine dining. Out in the frontier where resources are crucial, eating familiars are a waste. But to overfed nobles like the Lord of the Island? He'd eat this shit up and flex to others that he could afford this sort of thing
I don't think it would work since it has hair in it (or I think the alternate option Marcelle mentioned is the magic user's blood). You could probably get a few ignorant nobles, but eventually a magic user would find out and expose your ingredients - getting you shut down.
In my invertebrate biology books, we had a picture of a worm's insides that looked exactly like what the worm-like familiar looked like when he was cut up for dinner
Actually it reminds me more of a lamprey dissection, the onion ?? down the center looks remarkably like a notochord in a horizontal cross section of a lamprey. It's debated whether they are vertebrates or not but they are chordates and are thus studied in vertebrate zoology courses instead of invert (Sorry lol I don't mean to be all "actually 🤓" but I love zoology and it's part of what drew me to this show)
There were some production assets leaked that indicate there might be a season 2. They were Senshi Pantyshots, of course, and they lined up with content from around chapters 64-65
In case it hasn’t been said by someone else, I would love this kind of deep dive on other anime too, be it other Trigger anime or older ones, the original Tri Gun comes to mind for example
Same! I would love if he did this with other anime that have creative animation like Dungeon Meshi (like Kill la Kill for example, love how creative it uses perspective)
Just like the rest of the fanbase, I was super charmed by Sky Fish (who wouldn't?), but your thoughtful points on the wyvern made me love it as well, especially its initial flight where it seemed like a fledgling leaving the nest for the first time. Laios, Marcille and Izutsumi got some awesome acting moments this episode too, particularly the former two.
I was pretty sure a lot of dwarves are from the eastern continent, right? So it makes sense the food senshi makes is somewhat similar to the eastern tall men albeit somewhat “westernized”
When I got the update on my phone I only saw the word Disappointment and not the thumbnail and I was genuinely worried that you thought this was a bad episode.
Ever since I started watching these videos, while I’m watching the new Dunmeshi episodes, I’ll think to myself, “Swamp Jawn is probably gonna talk about these scenes” lolol
Hey. Thank you for always putting out your content out a few days after the episode premier. I know if its from you, it wont be a spoiler. I've had to hide so many creators because they post with spoilers in the title, like, 30 minutes after the show is released.
as an animation fan as well i personally love how animators were allowed to lean in on their specific mastered styles. its so fun and refreshing and also so cool how one can identify who worked on a scene just by how distinct it looks
About the stuff you said at 5:50 Watiching the show weak by weak makes it much less of a problem. I remeber what characters looks like but the style isnt really the thing that stays with me for that long. Its just a cool looking show each new weak.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I love it! I'm not an animator and this really helped me dig in have a deeper appreciation for the work put into this series, thank you!
We've been at this for so long that as I was watching the episode, as soon as the second familiar was put into motion I heard a little Jawn in my head say "An here we can observe the work of the notorious key animator Ichigo Kanno". Honestly I don't mind the style changes: it's not like the manga was not prone to that, especially regarding Izutsumi but not exclusively, right?
With the last couple of episodes farmed out to other studios it was clear TRIGGER was saving this one for themselves. One of my favourite chapters in the comic and it's become the same in the show.
10:25 big spoiler warning, bigger rambling warning I'm always had this --thing-- about how and why Senshi knows the vast scope of dishes from different regions that he does, as well as the cooking style he uses(like you said, the way he holds his knife and the fact that he often uses chopsticks). I can’t stop thinking about it, there are so many sides to tackle it from and it’s so interesting! Most of the food he makes is Japanese but there are frequent references to food from other regions as well, such as the barometz balut. According to Senshi’s timeline: he’s from Izganda; then he got stuck in the dungeon and learned from the orcs; now he occasionally comes up to the surface of the island to get supplies and of course he lives full time in the dungeon. So…where would he have learned so many different types of cuisine? The easiest thing to do would be to assume Izganda is in/near “the east”. That wouldn’t explain all of Senshi’s cooking knowledge, but it would at least account for a good portion of it since we know the east is basically just Japan. There are really no cultural signifiers of what real world location Izganda could be anchored to, so there’s nothing for or against this explanation on that front. However it’s said multiple times that just about the only races other than tallmen in the east are ogres. It’s also said that there are no long lives races in the east. Given this, it’s unlikely that Senshi and the other dwarves are from a place anywhere near there. The answer for why Senshi makes so much Japanese food is both inside and outside Dungeon Meshi itself, and in some ways it’s pretty simple: Dungeon Meshi was created because Ryoko Kui really, REALLY likes drawing the process of people cooking. There are so many spreads in the daydream hours of her expressing craving for different food by drawing the process of making it, and some unrelated short stories that are solely about cooking. I'm oversimplifying the reason of dungeon meshi's creation of course, and I'd probably even point to other oneshots she's done that connect to other themes she wanted to come back to in Dungeon Meshi, but drawing food she loves is definitely a core component. There’s metacommentary in Dungeon Meshi that I feel ultimately addresses this whole thing. When the party is trying to piece together what Marcille’s “local cuisine” is, it sounds like they could be describing various regional dishes(probably italian)…and finally, it's revealed Senshi made ramen. Izutsumi is like, "isn't this COMPLETELY wrong" and the crux of the gag is they have no idea what she’s talking about and they reach various levels of absurdity to misinterpret why she's confused. The fact that this is in the manga tickles me to no end and it's all the acknowledgement I need to, especially when near the end of the manga, to be like “yeah…maybe it doesn't make too much sense but it’s whatever! the food's still delicious~!"
About our favourite halfoot's reveal. Keeping in mind I haven't read the manga. I got the impression his relationship with them was (more than geographically) distant. I could totally see Chilchuk as a bitter middle aged devorcee using work as an excuse to ignore his relationship issues. Not to mention the whole 'husband/father working overseas which is why he's never around' trope in anime. It's wild that we're following the absentee father's pov for once. As for Senshi. I don't need spoilers to know his backstory is going to be rough. Not when he just had a legitimate full on PANIC ATTACK at the sight of that griffin. I've suffered from them all my life so could clearly see it for what it was. Honestly the best depiction of such in media I've seen since Puss In Boots: The Last Wish. Hopefully I can stay strong and not seek out spoilers before the big reveal next week.
I just want to add that the skyfish design is really reminiscent of the "flying rod" cryptid which I remember seeing on one of those unexplained mystery type shows. Basically insects caught on camera with enough motion blur to stretch out and appear to have multiple sets of wings.
i think you only seek to GAIN something from allowing creatives to take their own spin on styles. nothing in the show has looked "off model" but the sheer difference in, lets say "general detail" between senshi getting squashed under the red dragon's foot to his triumphant grabbing of kensuke really emphasizes the moment. the entire scene is split second decisions with a lot of movement and action so it works well
Interesting pount about knife grip. As European with no training in cooking I found it natural to use point grip - that's why I dislike knifes with narrow blade or sharp edges on back.
I never noticed that the art style changes as different animators swap the work load until you mention it and my brain went oh so that’s why and . . . Why did I never notice.
@@swampjawnthen you should have replaced the "(It's Good Though)" from the thumbnail text with that. Titling your video like that is very clickbaity and misleading
Did Laos and crew just all up and ate Marcille's Hair? Jokes aside, this was my favorite episode but of course I moaned in agony when the episode ended on a cliffhanger, so hoping the next one takes the cake. All of the Characters (minus Izumi who just joined) had some really good characterization showing how they've grown their bond.
i thought the way the griffon flies showed how its kind of ... not used to this shape? it came across to me like it was being awkward trying to balance its two halves rather than NATURALLY balancing them. for reasons. great video as always btw love to see these and get to think about the animation more deeply
Oh wow the detail of BLOODY INDIVIDUAL KNIFE GRIPS!? This anime and manga are beyond amazing :DD The attention to character detail is just **chef's kiss**
It’s very brief, but i really like the shot you can see at 9:40. Something about the way they turn the sky fish into a visual effect, then bring back its shape as a sort of impact frame is really cool to me. They really made something as goofy as that look really cool sometimes.
I love how dungeon meshi handles shared point of view of familiar and master, marcille got sick because her brain cant handle of double sensory information, this is also why izutsumi have only cat ears because her brain will explode from having 2 pairs of ears
I GOT DUPED, I thought this vid was gonna be talking smack about the episode and I wanted to hear what you didn't like but I was instead surprised with a pretty thorough analysis of the episode with a lot of praise Was so surprised and captured that I watched the entire thing, well done!
I wonder if you’ll keep making these videos once dungeon meshi is over, because I actually learned a lot from your videos as a beginner animator myself. It would be interesting to see older studio Trigger works, or maybe some crazy jujutsu kaisen sequences.
this show does something with Griffins that I didn't realize I needed until I saw it. I always loved the idea of riding a Griffin because it's like a cool mythical creature. But it has the head of an Eagle and the body of a Lion, that Identifies as a Threat in most cases.
Episode 22 is so cool because it confirms chilchuck chilfucks
He has three daughters too, that man was busy
Sorta spoilers: that man has three ADULT daughters
@@enzopereira2606 i know tumblr spoiled me thoroughly
@enzopereira2606 he's middle aged so it seems kinda obvious his 3 children are old too
My name's ChilBuck and I'm here to ChilFuck!
I really liked that Chilchuck was the one to open up first like that. A subtle way to help Senshi feel more comfortable telling them about his past, because up until now Chil has been extremely protective about his personal life. It was a really nice character moment
Chilchuck is definitely the most mature!
He's really one of the eldest in the group, considering their respective race's average lifespan. Whatever his personal issue with his family, he took his job very seriously and Senshi's wellbeing is central to their group's longevity in the dungeon right now.
Chilchuck is like middle age to an old man, so yeah, he went out of his retirement for dungeon crawling...
@@cutepinkyothat IS clearly laios i don't even know How you could even say that It isn't
@@microcelltechnicalassistenceyou can't be serious
It's funny because Senshi taught all those 'Things' towards Chilchuck when he's already married lmao
In the manga they elaborate on that joke on one of the mini episodes after the volume ends. It ends up showing that he actually taught him the way that dryad flowers reproduce with each other, which actually ends up giving him a sort of appreciation for life or the way it all works.
It's a fun misdirection that ends up in a still funny bit. Look it up, it's a 1 page gag, you can find it by searching "senshi explains dryads to chilchuck" in google :))
my fav little detail from the monster tidbits is that he did actually learn about plant fertilization and it transfixed him
stamen and pistil🌱
"You seem like a kind of guy to become a teen dad so listen closely!"
Senshi wrote that in his journal that he is embarrassed and ashamed of mistaking Chil as a child, especially when the latter has kids
I'm sure that the fact that one of the companions from Senchi's past having the same helmet as his but without a hole is nothing to worry about.
`Yeah certainly nothing bad happened to them surely
:)
Ho ho ho ho
He he he he
Ha ha ha ha...
stay tuned.
@@diccchocolate416This is going to be good!
Alrighty, I'm ready to learn some dwarven lore about Senshi's past! **starts playing diggy diggy hole**
**suddently hears "Hello darkness, my old friend..."**
Totally thought the eyes went goat mode, not hourglass mode
They're actually infinity symbols
goats have horizontal rectangular pupils, the closest pupil in nature to magic thistles would be something like a vertical beaded pupil, found in some geckos and fish, though theres not really a good matchup
I actually really like when anime goes off model a bit for heightened emotion or action. Its an opportunity for animators to really flex and get expressive with their creative juices. Like really go wild with the medium beyond just re-creating panels off the manga. I especially love it when animators like Kouki Fujimoto or Yutaka Nakamura go wild and play with the 3D space. Or in Yutaka Nakamura's case just flex every possible way to sell an IMPACT of an action while playin around with thr 3d space like he has for basically every cut he's done in the previous decade.
Probably one of the reasons I adore the adaptation of Mob Psycho 100 is it's sketchy rough art style gave so much leeway for animators to go hog wild with the animation. Despite how rough ONE's art was, It really knew how to sell action and emotion in its panels and thst translated really well under the different lenses of many animators of the anime.
I really like the transitions between styles, personally. Since they tend to lean on Kanno for more action-heavy cuts, it gives the show an entirely different feel when things get real dangerous. The first time I really felt that was the Undine fight, which is also (not coincidentally) the first fight they have to full-on pull out of because it messes them up so bad and almost kills Marcille. Cutting this with comedy shots also makes the juxtaposition funnier imo because it becomes full-on juxtaposition of the work against itself from theme to styles and is more jarring in a funny way.
Jawn! They changed the Chilchuck reveal in english! In the OG-Manga scene he says "Daughter", a definite singular, and now he sads Kid*s*! xD They took away the future secondary reveal!
There are 3rd and 4th reveals also. I wonder how they will handle them
No, in the OG manga he says something in Japanese, a language which does not explicitly pluralize words like English does. So if Chilchuck didn't specify, it could be one or multiple daughters. The original manga translator didn't know it was multiple, because that hadn't been revealed in story yet.
@@dmitriypi6983 Yeah exactly! They took ahead atleast one of the later reveals!
@@nnelg8139 ...oh thats an interesting thing. The german Dub explicitly says "Tochter" aka Daughter Singular
The manga translation I read also said Daughter.
@@Excelsius_Cerell you are right that the knowledge that it's multiple is an additional reveal, but the only way to do that in English or similar languages is to have Chillchuck go out of his way to use singular now, when plural is more natural. It'd also be a minor lie, which doesn't mesh with the notion he's being unusually open and honest here.
I LOVE HOW THE "GRIFFON" ACTS. THE WAY IT KICKS AND MY KNOWLEDGE OF MYTHOLOGY LET ME FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS, ALONG WITH LAIOS. I'M SO PROUD OF MYSELF FOR GETTING IT
> he still thinks of himself as a benevolent guardian
The worst thing: he IS a benevolent guardian... in a sense, because he tries to use cursed book as little as possible.
Why does young Senshi looks like a young anime version of Steven Universe
Without exaggaration I honestly watch the Dungeon Meshi anime *for* the stylistic departures. As much as I love and enjoy Kui's artwork, it's the animators' embelishments and artistic choices that elevate the material in the adaptation. I get to see, and discuss what animators saw in source material as important and worth celebrating or preserving.
I'm pretty sure dwarves originated in the east. There was a war between the east and west between the dwarves and elves. And considering the elves are from the west the Draves are inferred to be from the east.
I screamed. I'm on my way home now. I'm so gonna watch this as soon as I get home while eating dinner. 😭😭😭
In my opinion this is the best piece of animation series of this year
oh wow I learned something about knife grips today. I used the point grip probably because I subconsciously picked it up from anime until a boyfriend was like "no you have to grip it this way" because apparently I was doing it wrong. It is very satisfying to know I wasn't doing it wrong at all
Thisle is god's edgiest femboy
Another banger! Good stuff!
For some reason the color of the familiars suprised me. Despite them being made of meat, I expected them to be white?
Honestly same thought here
i expected them to be yellow or cyan
7:57 griffon ball z
ya mijo son caricaturas
How many times will the thumbnail change this around?
This anime looks awesome...
I just cant get past the first episode
They build up too much urgency with the first couple of scenes.
And instantly kill it by going around cooking and chilling.
If my sister that sacrificed herself to save me is on a dead timer, i would be a lil more worried and in a hurry.
Someone told me they are like that cause she can be revived, but that just removes completely the threat of death in the story =/
Also, there are other 2 characters in the dragon fight, and no one gives a poop about them, they don't even mention them?
What comes after the first episode looks really good, but just cant get past this =/
Great video though =P
Engagement
jelk? what does that mean
Oh no
I REALLY liked the skyfish's first takeoff. It just fukin DISAPEARS and displaces all the air around it, like a cavitation.
Truly a miracle
It went so fucking hard lol
Really sold "this buddy exists for one purpose and one purpose only"
something that striked me outside of the animation: I was really startled when Marcil just cut off a big chunk of her hair, considering how precious it is to her.
I startled too, despite knowing this from manga, because in manga it was way smaller piece of hair, ang also was braided in a way that made me think it was meant to situations like this or similar
It was a necessary piece for the familiar to be created, that's the kind of situation Marcille keeps her hair for.
It's super jarring, but it makes sense. She's a neat freak for sure, but she also explained that hair is a vital part of spell casting, and having a lot of clean and ready ingredient for some spells would be helpful.
Marcile maintains her hair specifically FOR magic though, so it makes total sense
Interesting how outside of the usual clumsiness and nagging, she never hesitated at times like this. Whether it’s the elven laws, her cherished hair, or revolting food ingredients, Marcille can cross any line for her friends. And this devotion is more and more evident as every detail comes out from the plots.
The individual animators styles showing is so nice to see because an animated show didn't just spawn out of nowhere, its the work of so many individuals working together... at least let them put their creative signatures on it lol
This is not a modern-only approach, either. I remember watching Fist of the North Star in the 80s, as a kid, and episodes were clearly painted and animated by different people. So, to me, this feels kinda nostalgic too...
If they dont make plushies of the first draft of the familiar I will be disappointed
I think they already did!
@@swampjawn where! I need them
Where’s the source
@@triggerhappy4199 I pre-ordered mine on hlj!
@@triggerhappy4199 goodsmile!
Chilchuck revealing he has a wife and kids while Marcile's whole reality breaks apart in the background was great.
Laos creating a dual head fire and ice dragon is so funny to me, its like he's made it before in his free time
This was actually the first episode where I thought a little bit less of his monster knowledge.
@@dg7815 Well the knowledge comes second to his fantasies about creating monsters of his own so of course he'd get carried away.
I really like how they dubbed it in en. 😂😂 "WITH TWO HEADS!!!!"
OC creation moments
He made Jakiro the twin headed dragon from Dota2
young senshi looks like steven universe
senshi universe lol
You have willed new abominations into existence.
...
Thank you. Good Job.👍
my thoughts exactly
Same. Now we just need a completely unnecessary crossover that like only three people asked for but the creators and chill enough to do anyway.
I thought this when I read the manga the first time... and what follows gave me critical psychic damage. I picture both Steven and Senshi in the same situation and it HURTS my soul.
I also commented about how Senshi was sort of Japanese on Tumblr and someone pointed out that in the extras for the oneshot she shows their Wizardry 3 classes and paths as she was conceptualizing them, and Senshi was a Samurai, which I think explains his (and following from that, the dwarven) "Japaneseness"
In the original art for him, he's flatter faced and his beard is more wild, which makes him really seem like a sort of somewhat deranged ronin. From there, by the time he made it to serialization, his overall design became rounder and more handsome / less haggard.
When you combine that with the fact that (iirc) Toshiro is completely absent from the original oneshot, it seems like Kui decided to take what she had in mind and split it up into two separate characters. Which I definitely think worked out for the best lol
@@rivermichael4357 Yup, Toshiro and Namari didn't exist in the one shot, the original party is Laios, Marcille, Izutsumi, Senshi, and Chilchuck. Falin is still in the story / the party but the goal is still to rescue her.
There's some other changes that were pretty smart between the two as well I think, like making Izutsumi show up later in the story and making her younger and more volatile.
manga fans waiting for this week's episode with demented grins of Knowledge
Spoilers below
I wonder if they will make it a half-and-half thing and try to squeeze some of the changeling stuff in or if they're going for a fully senshi centric episode, making ep 24 the changeling one.
One thing is clear though, from how things look, they're definitely ending the season on chapter 52
RICH AND RED
The chopping hand gesture are so easy to miss, but dang, such a satisfying difference
It means that i'm not a true european because i do it as senshi does
@@KiraiKatsuji I’m Asian and I chop like Laios, thanks to modern inventions our cooking techniques are not limited to the ancient cultural lineage lol
The Skyfish and chips opens another avenue of cooking, specifically fine dining. Marcille dismissed Laios' idea to incorporate familiars in cooking, but a suitably culinary and artistic magus can take the culinary world by storm by providing dinner and a show to the world's elite
The only issue is the amount of resources it takes to make a familiar. It took a weeks worth of food just to make three small ones.
@@rowanheart8122 Which is why I said fine dining. Out in the frontier where resources are crucial, eating familiars are a waste. But to overfed nobles like the Lord of the Island? He'd eat this shit up and flex to others that he could afford this sort of thing
I don't think it would work since it has hair in it (or I think the alternate option Marcelle mentioned is the magic user's blood). You could probably get a few ignorant nobles, but eventually a magic user would find out and expose your ingredients - getting you shut down.
I was not prepared for sad senchi
Soft spoiler :
Prepare to sob your eyes out next ep
The flying sausage BROKE me. Easily the best laugh of the show, so far.
In my invertebrate biology books, we had a picture of a worm's insides that looked exactly like what the worm-like familiar looked like when he was cut up for dinner
Actually it reminds me more of a lamprey dissection, the onion ?? down the center looks remarkably like a notochord in a horizontal cross section of a lamprey. It's debated whether they are vertebrates or not but they are chordates and are thus studied in vertebrate zoology courses instead of invert
(Sorry lol I don't mean to be all "actually 🤓" but I love zoology and it's part of what drew me to this show)
@@-yuiyua-2674 dont mind the "actually"! Love to meet a fellow biology nerd in the wild!
I'm surprized you didn't mention the way the griffin kicked with its hind legs
That was also a cool touch, it showed something that only a Griffin could do that an eagle or lion couldn't.
@@dg7815actually a griffin wouldnt have done that, since their back half is still lion-ish
Pretty sure that'll be mentioned in the next episode for reasons i won't spoil to the anime-only crowd !
@@DoCaMakesArt Thank you for that
@@DoCaMakesArt it's a surprize tool that will help us later
They did my boy Skyfish justice (RIP Skyfish)
me: remembers that Marcille used her hair to make the familiars
.....
Hey, wait a minute. Are they......did they eat her hair?
💀💀💀
I think so...
no, hairs become meat
There were some production assets leaked that indicate there might be a season 2. They were Senshi Pantyshots, of course, and they lined up with content from around chapters 64-65
then again it’s Netflix so there’s always cancelation in the air
@@luckyshot3950nah the second season would show the rest of the manga so it’s extremely unlikely they’ll cancel it
I can't wait for Senshi Universe this week
This ep was a true delight.
In case it hasn’t been said by someone else, I would love this kind of deep dive on other anime too, be it other Trigger anime or older ones, the original Tri Gun comes to mind for example
Same! I would love if he did this with other anime that have creative animation like Dungeon Meshi (like Kill la Kill for example, love how creative it uses perspective)
Just like the rest of the fanbase, I was super charmed by Sky Fish (who wouldn't?), but your thoughtful points on the wyvern made me love it as well, especially its initial flight where it seemed like a fledgling leaving the nest for the first time.
Laios, Marcille and Izutsumi got some awesome acting moments this episode too, particularly the former two.
I was pretty sure a lot of dwarves are from the eastern continent, right? So it makes sense the food senshi makes is somewhat similar to the eastern tall men albeit somewhat “westernized”
Yeah they’re from the Eastern Continent, which is north of the Tallman and Ogre inhabited Eastern Archipelago.
When I got the update on my phone I only saw the word Disappointment and not the thumbnail and I was genuinely worried that you thought this was a bad episode.
The Jelq comment came as I was drinking and I almost choked to death, thank you lol
Yeah I thought I was behind on my slang... In hindsight I still shouldn't have searched that on my work computer.
Ever since I started watching these videos, while I’m watching the new Dunmeshi episodes, I’ll think to myself, “Swamp Jawn is probably gonna talk about these scenes” lolol
I also love these videos so much!! My sister and I are watching Dunmeshi together, and we also watch these vids together when they come out!!
Hey. Thank you for always putting out your content out a few days after the episode premier. I know if its from you, it wont be a spoiler. I've had to hide so many creators because they post with spoilers in the title, like, 30 minutes after the show is released.
Why is the tittle “Pure disappointment“?
Lol that threw me off too.
as an animation fan as well i personally love how animators were allowed to lean in on their specific mastered styles. its so fun and refreshing and also so cool how one can identify who worked on a scene just by how distinct it looks
This is the earliest I’ve been here!! I love your uploads!! They’re so informative and my animator heart loved the breakdowns
About the stuff you said at 5:50 Watiching the show weak by weak makes it much less of a problem. I remeber what characters looks like but the style isnt really the thing that stays with me for that long. Its just a cool looking show each new weak.
Another great Episode. I wonder how much they can pack in the next Episode since Chapter 49 is pretty huge
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I love it! I'm not an animator and this really helped me dig in have a deeper appreciation for the work put into this series, thank you!
We've been at this for so long that as I was watching the episode, as soon as the second familiar was put into motion I heard a little Jawn in my head say "An here we can observe the work of the notorious key animator Ichigo Kanno".
Honestly I don't mind the style changes: it's not like the manga was not prone to that, especially regarding Izutsumi but not exclusively, right?
With the last couple of episodes farmed out to other studios it was clear TRIGGER was saving this one for themselves.
One of my favourite chapters in the comic and it's become the same in the show.
10:25
big spoiler warning, bigger rambling warning
I'm always had this --thing-- about how and why Senshi knows the vast scope of dishes from different regions that he does, as well as the cooking style he uses(like you said, the way he holds his knife and the fact that he often uses chopsticks). I can’t stop thinking about it, there are so many sides to tackle it from and it’s so interesting! Most of the food he makes is Japanese but there are frequent references to food from other regions as well, such as the barometz balut. According to Senshi’s timeline: he’s from Izganda; then he got stuck in the dungeon and learned from the orcs; now he occasionally comes up to the surface of the island to get supplies and of course he lives full time in the dungeon. So…where would he have learned so many different types of cuisine?
The easiest thing to do would be to assume Izganda is in/near “the east”. That wouldn’t explain all of Senshi’s cooking knowledge, but it would at least account for a good portion of it since we know the east is basically just Japan. There are really no cultural signifiers of what real world location Izganda could be anchored to, so there’s nothing for or against this explanation on that front. However it’s said multiple times that just about the only races other than tallmen in the east are ogres. It’s also said that there are no long lives races in the east. Given this, it’s unlikely that Senshi and the other dwarves are from a place anywhere near there.
The answer for why Senshi makes so much Japanese food is both inside and outside Dungeon Meshi itself, and in some ways it’s pretty simple: Dungeon Meshi was created because Ryoko Kui really, REALLY likes drawing the process of people cooking. There are so many spreads in the daydream hours of her expressing craving for different food by drawing the process of making it, and some unrelated short stories that are solely about cooking. I'm oversimplifying the reason of dungeon meshi's creation of course, and I'd probably even point to other oneshots she's done that connect to other themes she wanted to come back to in Dungeon Meshi, but drawing food she loves is definitely a core component.
There’s metacommentary in Dungeon Meshi that I feel ultimately addresses this whole thing. When the party is trying to piece together what Marcille’s “local cuisine” is, it sounds like they could be describing various regional dishes(probably italian)…and finally, it's revealed Senshi made ramen. Izutsumi is like, "isn't this COMPLETELY wrong" and the crux of the gag is they have no idea what she’s talking about and they reach various levels of absurdity to misinterpret why she's confused. The fact that this is in the manga tickles me to no end and it's all the acknowledgement I need to, especially when near the end of the manga, to be like “yeah…maybe it doesn't make too much sense but it’s whatever! the food's still delicious~!"
Looking forward to the animation of SENSHI LORE DROP!!! ❤❤❤
Chillchuck needed to be the one to share because Laios and Marcille already have.
Botom text?
22 honestly might be my favorite episode so far
swap jam: "i cant go into every detail about the animation"
half fo their fanbase: PLEAS GO INTO DETAIL INFODUMP ON US ARMADILLOMAN
About our favourite halfoot's reveal. Keeping in mind I haven't read the manga. I got the impression his relationship with them was (more than geographically) distant. I could totally see Chilchuk as a bitter middle aged devorcee using work as an excuse to ignore his relationship issues. Not to mention the whole 'husband/father working overseas which is why he's never around' trope in anime. It's wild that we're following the absentee father's pov for once.
As for Senshi. I don't need spoilers to know his backstory is going to be rough. Not when he just had a legitimate full on PANIC ATTACK at the sight of that griffin. I've suffered from them all my life so could clearly see it for what it was. Honestly the best depiction of such in media I've seen since Puss In Boots: The Last Wish. Hopefully I can stay strong and not seek out spoilers before the big reveal next week.
I just want to add that the skyfish design is really reminiscent of the "flying rod" cryptid which I remember seeing on one of those unexplained mystery type shows. Basically insects caught on camera with enough motion blur to stretch out and appear to have multiple sets of wings.
i think you only seek to GAIN something from allowing creatives to take their own spin on styles.
nothing in the show has looked "off model" but the sheer difference in, lets say "general detail" between senshi getting squashed under the red dragon's foot to his triumphant grabbing of kensuke really emphasizes the moment. the entire scene is split second decisions with a lot of movement and action so it works well
Interesting pount about knife grip.
As European with no training in cooking I found it natural to use point grip - that's why I dislike knifes with narrow blade or sharp edges on back.
the little meat-sculpted wyvern was super cute and I want 10
I never noticed that the art style changes as different animators swap the work load until you mention it and my brain went oh so that’s why and . . . Why did I never notice.
Both have storyboards from someone who’s been a staple key animator at the
~studio~
I don't really care about the animation details, I'm just here for the jokes
oof. senshi backstory. i cant wait it to be voice
I'm sorry WHO has a wife and kids????!!!!!!!!!
RIP Skyfish....
You were gone too soon...
Describing sculpting as jelking is so cursed
Thistle? Oh, do you mean Sissle?
i thought this episode was amazing
Why was this video titles pure disappointment?
Just referencing Laios's reaction to Marcille's creations in the thumbnail
@@swampjawnthat can be kinda confusing, I went in the video thinking you hated it for some reason
@@swampjawnthen you should have replaced the "(It's Good Though)" from the thumbnail text with that. Titling your video like that is very clickbaity and misleading
9:12 bro was in a Raiden cosplay lol nice
Swamp JAAAWN! Woooo!
not Laios jelqing bruhh
Kbity. That is all.
Did Laos and crew just all up and ate Marcille's Hair? Jokes aside, this was my favorite episode but of course I moaned in agony when the episode ended on a cliffhanger, so hoping the next one takes the cake. All of the Characters (minus Izumi who just joined) had some really good characterization showing how they've grown their bond.
They did eat her hair! There's a part of the manga where Izutsumi coughs up a hairball after eating the skysnake lol
@@Zorae42 in manga she just cough
i thought the way the griffon flies showed how its kind of ... not used to this shape? it came across to me like it was being awkward trying to balance its two halves rather than NATURALLY balancing them. for reasons. great video as always btw love to see these and get to think about the animation more deeply
They're so silly
That episode remmember me Gundam Witch From Mercury key animation in the fights.
Oh wow the detail of BLOODY INDIVIDUAL KNIFE GRIPS!? This anime and manga are beyond amazing :DD The attention to character detail is just **chef's kiss**
Skyfish :(
Senshi without his hellmet is a hunk.
Comp comp
It’s very brief, but i really like the shot you can see at 9:40. Something about the way they turn the sky fish into a visual effect, then bring back its shape as a sort of impact frame is really cool to me. They really made something as goofy as that look really cool sometimes.
I love how dungeon meshi handles shared point of view of familiar and master, marcille got sick because her brain cant handle of double sensory information, this is also why izutsumi have only cat ears because her brain will explode from having 2 pairs of ears
I GOT DUPED, I thought this vid was gonna be talking smack about the episode and I wanted to hear what you didn't like but I was instead surprised with a pretty thorough analysis of the episode with a lot of praise
Was so surprised and captured that I watched the entire thing, well done!
I wonder if you’ll keep making these videos once dungeon meshi is over, because I actually learned a lot from your videos as a beginner animator myself. It would be interesting to see older studio Trigger works, or maybe some crazy jujutsu kaisen sequences.
Thank you for the video!!
this show does something with Griffins that I didn't realize I needed until I saw it. I always loved the idea of riding a Griffin because it's like a cool mythical creature. But it has the head of an Eagle and the body of a Lion, that Identifies as a Threat in most cases.