Do you know what more annoying? That Colossal Order can't make a perfect realistic city building/traffic managing game: - All helicopters and planes fly through building and hills or mountains. - Despite the fact traffic accidents are in the games, all cars phase through other cars and pedestrians. - When fire trucks, ambulances, police cars, hearse, taxis, garbage trucks block traffic, all vehicles will just unrealistically turn around instead of waiting or drive around the stationary vehicle. - All vehicles don't merge over when road maintenance vehicles "working" on the road, and the fact there's no animations for road maintenance, even roadworks are absent. - Fire trucks, ambulances, police cars, hearse, taxis, garbage trucks and road maintenance vehicles have no animations at all. - No dedicated traffic lights for left turning or right turning traffic, no priority signals for buses and trams. - No railway signals for trains and/or metros. - No traffic signs such as warning, prohibitory, mandatory and indication. - Yes traffic behavior from CS1 in CS2 is SO ANNOYING And the fact that Paradox exists is also annoying.
@@automation7295 They said once that they will add animations to the game later and i really hope they do, especially for road works and the stuff you mentioned since the game doesn’t feel alive like this Also the animations of the rain on the roads and the snow
@@lahead5160 If Colossal Order didn't released Cities Skylines II in 2023 and decided to postpone it till late 2024 or early-mid 2025, they would have time to add animations and roadworks to the game.
I'm a software engineer so I may buy the game just to install the Unity and Visual Studio packages for CS2 modding. If it's possible to tear apart the economic simulation and rebuild big chunks of it, mods could fix a lot of the problems.
I know right, everyone concerned about no workshop. Workshop was average at best and tedious to organize large amounts of mods. PDX can continue to be updated and over time be better than workshop.
The "New Tealand" map itself is nice, but the city is cringe and unrealistic to look at. The "Alien Rock Park" is most unrealistic thing about New Tealand, in real life, they would unsafe and fall and crush buildings and cars below. I also love how Biffa calls his cities realistic when they're not. Even his Kettlebridge isn't realistic, there's still lumps all over the place. His island on his recent CS2 video is unrealistic, he created an unrealistic steep tunnel. Speaking of tunnels, he even unrealistic steep tunnel connecting from the mainland to "Island of Roy" in his "Hugoslavia" build in CS1.
@@automation7295 I like watching Biffa. He's entertaining. I also like his cities. Their not realistic..... who cares? Seriously. He's fun his cities are fun. If I want real, I'll watch a documentary.
@@davidcorreia3901 Yes, he's entertaining and yes his cities aren't realistic. I get that his building for fun, but I still find it funny when Biffa claims that his cities are realistic when they're clearly not. Also most of viewers are stupid, they claim that Biffa's cities are 100% realistic. - Biffa clearly don't notice small lumps, only big ones. Even the quay walls around Kettlebridge aren't straight, making the them very lumpy. - Biffa only overuses the Anarchy mod, meaning that stuff clip through stuff. He often don't or never turn off Anarchy when placing buildings and new roads. He's entertaining , but his cities are unrealistic and cringe
had cs2 on the back burner for awhile this might bring me back blows my mind a huge dev team cant do what a single modder did in his bedroom withing a few weeks of the games release real basic fixes lol
30 people is NOT considered huge, but yes what Colossal Order are doing is embarrassing. I hope CS2 loses even more players, forcing Colossal Order to abandon this game.
Will they have more surfaces than basically green, brown, and white? Can we use editor mode visual settings to run permanently and not just in photo mode?
What if I have already downloaded and used mods in CS2 and want to use/switch to CS2 mods? Will I be able to continue my previously modded worlds using CS2 mods?
Will I buy the game ?: I like to Move it Move it !!! AND , personal mod-choice, first person street-level view, driving/walking around in your city, looking around, see things going on.
That still has issues and coming later in the 'beta'. Eventually everything will be there and better than CS1 editors, in one place. I think it was Q3 this year editor will be complete and out of beta.
I really hope ppl give this game the clean slate I believe it deserves - I know the community is angry but I fell in love with this game with its community because of what it represented amongst so much toxicity elsewhere
The issue i have is the disingenuous nature in which this modding situation has been handled. Paradox / CO have said that they 'can't' support a dual mods system using steam+paradox mods, they absolutely CAN do that and it's exactly what Victoria 3 does. They want to funnel everyone into their own modding ecosystem I feel to ensure new mods don't tread on upcoming DLC and they can have tight control over exactly what gets made. Saying that 'this platform ensures all versions of the game can use mods regardless of platform' feels like just a convenient scapegoat
it just makes more sense to have all mods on one platform. As a Sims player, i can't tell you how annoying it is to have to search through dozens of websites and link to link rabbit holes and bottomless github repositories just to download a thing you like. At least this way, not only we'd have them all on the same platform but also on a better platform than Steam WS.
I have completely given up on CSII now. I don't think the up-and-coming update is going to help at all; the economy I suspect will remain broken, and performance will still be dire... :/
I also hope its bi-migration for those who either hate Paradox mods, cannot use Paradox mods, or other reasons. I would love to see Move It on Thunderstore days after release.
I still say not making node controller a part of the base game was a massive missed opportunity, but I will take the consolation prize of at least being able to install it as a mod again.
Not making node controller a part of the base game was a BIG mistake of Colossal Order. I hope Colossal Order abandon their game and shuts down their studio.
I hope we can get more road models and styles like from CS1. CS2 has lost a LOT of variability on launch. I dont have hedges, no bicycles, no bus lanes (only dedicated bus roads, though I may be wrong). I just want as many options as I did with the original title.
You can add bus lanes to any road by using the upgrade tool. Same with tram tracks. You can even select it to only be on one side of the rode and have asymmetrical lanes.
Cities skylines also had bad variability at launch. paradox just kept adding dlc after dlc, and it got to a point where the game had so many unique buildings
@hermelinnikolas I was fairly late into playing the first one. But I played mostly vanilla with no DLCs and had decent variety, though I couldn't tell you what was an added feature. I just know that I don't seem to have any form of dirt paths for pedestrians or props for making my own parks (which I didn't need mods or DLC for either)
This new mod thing is a major pain in the ass! Spent two hours jumping through all the hoops only to have to uninstall and start over. This is a joke, put the damn mods back on steam Paradox and stop trying to reinvent the wheel. 😤🤬
You know that this patch comes out in three days, right? I would say that is finally news with something to follow. Fixing a broken game will take time. It should have come out Oct this year!
Just to clarify there is no official mods right? you mean official mod interface/support? all (or 99% of mods) will be third party unofficial mods on the official platform
the fact that sc2 didn't ship with full modding support from the getgo i think was one of the reason for its butched launch .. they shud've known better,, also it would've let the modding crowd fix if not all but most of the fkups they made with the basegame... but that train has sailed now, all they can hope for is this will bring some attention back to the game
1:53 traffic behavior from CS1 in CS2 is SO ANNOYING!!!!
Do you know what more annoying? That Colossal Order can't make a perfect realistic city building/traffic managing game:
- All helicopters and planes fly through building and hills or mountains.
- Despite the fact traffic accidents are in the games, all cars phase through other cars and pedestrians.
- When fire trucks, ambulances, police cars, hearse, taxis, garbage trucks block traffic, all vehicles will just unrealistically turn around instead of waiting or drive around the stationary vehicle.
- All vehicles don't merge over when road maintenance vehicles "working" on the road, and the fact there's no animations for road maintenance, even roadworks are absent.
- Fire trucks, ambulances, police cars, hearse, taxis, garbage trucks and road maintenance vehicles have no animations at all.
- No dedicated traffic lights for left turning or right turning traffic, no priority signals for buses and trams.
- No railway signals for trains and/or metros.
- No traffic signs such as warning, prohibitory, mandatory and indication.
- Yes traffic behavior from CS1 in CS2 is SO ANNOYING
And the fact that Paradox exists is also annoying.
That is why i waiting for trafic manager president edition to come to cities skyline II.
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They said once that they will add animations to the game later and i really hope they do, especially for road works and the stuff you mentioned since the game doesn’t feel alive like this
Also the animations of the rain on the roads and the snow
@@lahead5160 If Colossal Order didn't released Cities Skylines II in 2023 and decided to postpone it till late 2024 or early-mid 2025, they would have time to add animations and roadworks to the game.
@@automation7295 true. Do you think they will add these details to the game ?
This feels like a second release for this game. Fingers crossed it will be a better one this time!
I'm a software engineer so I may buy the game just to install the Unity and Visual Studio packages for CS2 modding. If it's possible to tear apart the economic simulation and rebuild big chunks of it, mods could fix a lot of the problems.
MODS TO THE RESCUE 🛟
We shall see I think it might be tough even for the modders to truly fix the game
@@TheGreyGhost873 it won’t truly be fixed by them. Just bandaids to relieve the pain.
@@BeachLookingGuy hopefully at lest
All the mods in the world won't bring me back to CSII till the economy gets fixed.
Great Content as usual, lets hope that these additions can improve the game and hopefully make it what we were all hoping it might be on launch.
PLEASE I NEED A DRIVING MOD IN CS2 I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY DIDNT ADD THIS IN THE GAME BY DEFULT IT WAS A WIDLEY REQESTED FEATURE
because the game runs as shity as it does now
As long as search works, I really don't care if it's not the steam workshop. In fact I'd rather the mods be more available to more people
I know right, everyone concerned about no workshop. Workshop was average at best and tedious to organize large amounts of mods. PDX can continue to be updated and over time be better than workshop.
Now I'm kinda optimistic about the game, with mods it has potential to be better than cs1
I hope biffa can upload a new "New Tealand" map. And CPP uploads "Verde Beach".
The "New Tealand" map itself is nice, but the city is cringe and unrealistic to look at. The "Alien Rock Park" is most unrealistic thing about New Tealand, in real life, they would unsafe and fall and crush buildings and cars below.
I also love how Biffa calls his cities realistic when they're not. Even his Kettlebridge isn't realistic, there's still lumps all over the place. His island on his recent CS2 video is unrealistic, he created an unrealistic steep tunnel. Speaking of tunnels, he even unrealistic steep tunnel connecting from the mainland to "Island of Roy" in his "Hugoslavia" build in CS1.
@@automation7295 I like watching Biffa. He's entertaining. I also like his cities. Their not realistic..... who cares? Seriously. He's fun his cities are fun. If I want real, I'll watch a documentary.
@@davidcorreia3901 Yes, he's entertaining and yes his cities aren't realistic. I get that his building for fun, but I still find it funny when Biffa claims that his cities are realistic when they're clearly not. Also most of viewers are stupid, they claim that Biffa's cities are 100% realistic.
- Biffa clearly don't notice small lumps, only big ones. Even the quay walls around Kettlebridge aren't straight, making the them very lumpy.
- Biffa only overuses the Anarchy mod, meaning that stuff clip through stuff. He often don't or never turn off Anarchy when placing buildings and new roads.
He's entertaining , but his cities are unrealistic and cringe
had cs2 on the back burner for awhile this might bring me back blows my mind a huge dev team cant do what a single modder did in his bedroom withing a few weeks of the games release real basic fixes lol
30 people is NOT considered huge, but yes what Colossal Order are doing is embarrassing. I hope CS2 loses even more players, forcing Colossal Order to abandon this game.
Will they have more surfaces than basically green, brown, and white? Can we use editor mode visual settings to run permanently and not just in photo mode?
There is already a mod that holds photo mode settings permanently, I'm sure it will come to PDX mods soon. Same with the surface changer mod.
There's a way to do it through Thunderstore mods. But yeah, in the base game, the lots on curved roads look very blocky with the different shades.
What if I have already downloaded and used mods in CS2 and want to use/switch to CS2 mods? Will I be able to continue my previously modded worlds using CS2 mods?
@ 4:35 - can we also turn of "Tidal Waves" in the water?
Will I buy the game ?:
I like to Move it Move it !!!
AND , personal mod-choice, first person street-level view, driving/walking around in your city, looking around, see things going on.
Still no assets available. Assets are way more important than Maps.
Still no erosion brush in the map editor... sc4 did it 15 years ago *sigh*
Sim City actually had a city simulation going on 15 years ago though ;)
Nice to see that most likely paradox will lead modders to fix their games. Can’t say I’m surprised
Will they have tidal flow?
Correct me if im wrong but wasnt the Editor supposed to allow us to edit assets? Is that not a thing?
That still has issues and coming later in the 'beta'. Eventually everything will be there and better than CS1 editors, in one place. I think it was Q3 this year editor will be complete and out of beta.
I really hope ppl give this game the clean slate I believe it deserves - I know the community is angry but I fell in love with this game with its community because of what it represented amongst so much toxicity elsewhere
Why doesn't that junction at 1:00 have a roundabout?
Because I like the intersection (and I’d guess the traffic flow was too dominant in one direction, leaving one direction stuck permanently yielding)
The issue i have is the disingenuous nature in which this modding situation has been handled. Paradox / CO have said that they 'can't' support a dual mods system using steam+paradox mods, they absolutely CAN do that and it's exactly what Victoria 3 does.
They want to funnel everyone into their own modding ecosystem I feel to ensure new mods don't tread on upcoming DLC and they can have tight control over exactly what gets made. Saying that 'this platform ensures all versions of the game can use mods regardless of platform' feels like just a convenient scapegoat
it just makes more sense to have all mods on one platform. As a Sims player, i can't tell you how annoying it is to have to search through dozens of websites and link to link rabbit holes and bottomless github repositories just to download a thing you like. At least this way, not only we'd have them all on the same platform but also on a better platform than Steam WS.
Steam Workshop doesn't support consoles, Paradox Mods does.
@@TheRealPotoroo Just remember only thing consoles are getting are assets, still good but no matter what they will never get full mod support
@@lookover1254 They're getting assets and maps. If CO had stuck with Steam they'd get nothing.
I don't have the EDITOR and PARADOX MODS
1:37 is that an AI image?
Hope there's no gatekeeping of types of content included in modding via paradox mods... ie: if things could cause people to skip DLCs for a mod.
Hope Colossal Order shuts down their studio.
no, I dont want that, no matter how pissed I am at them... I'd rather it get fixed, finally@@automation7295
@@automation7295why tho
Now the users must save the game again. Like part one. And don't get even paid. How lucky CO is to have such a great community!
you do realize this latest dev diary was written by a modder who got hired by CO, right?
@@mygetawayartOf course they don't, that would require actually paying attention to what's going on at the Paradox forums.
@@TheRealPotoroo Like the censorship?🤡🤡
ok so ONE modder, what about the other ones?@@mygetawayart
@@aturchomicz821 Censorship should be illegal, except in the USA
I have completely given up on CSII now. I don't think the up-and-coming update is going to help at all; the economy I suspect will remain broken, and performance will still be dire... :/
I swear if anyone makes the twin towers as a mod💀
meanwhile, I've stopped playing the game bc sim speed at 100k ppl is unbearable
once modders have revived the game, co will be able claim it was good all along
I'm so excited! Can't wait!
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to play Dragon's Dogma 2! Also, my friend, who have been considering for very long time, finally bought Helldivers 2!
How about new assets?
The assets editor has problems with importing and is likely still months away.
@@TheRealPotoroo 🫤😮💨
The core mechanics are broken. They should have been the top priority. It feels like they want to pass this off to the moders.
coming in beta lmfao..
Please give us custom themes and Luts...The game looks as ugly as f**k!!!!
they actually used ai to make the stupid donut image... come ON paradox...
bruh, stop making up nonsense
I hope a lot of the mods in the thunderstore will migrate to this new system quikly
A lot will already be there on day 1 because a lot of modders have already had access.
I also hope its bi-migration for those who either hate Paradox mods, cannot use Paradox mods, or other reasons. I would love to see Move It on Thunderstore days after release.
I still say not making node controller a part of the base game was a massive missed opportunity, but I will take the consolation prize of at least being able to install it as a mod again.
Not making node controller a part of the base game was a BIG mistake of Colossal Order. I hope Colossal Order abandon their game and shuts down their studio.
@@automation7295😭😭
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut no custom buildings... meh.
I hope we can get more road models and styles like from CS1. CS2 has lost a LOT of variability on launch. I dont have hedges, no bicycles, no bus lanes (only dedicated bus roads, though I may be wrong). I just want as many options as I did with the original title.
You can add bus lanes to any road by using the upgrade tool. Same with tram tracks. You can even select it to only be on one side of the rode and have asymmetrical lanes.
Cities skylines also had bad variability at launch. paradox just kept adding dlc after dlc, and it got to a point where the game had so many unique buildings
@hermelinnikolas I was fairly late into playing the first one. But I played mostly vanilla with no DLCs and had decent variety, though I couldn't tell you what was an added feature. I just know that I don't seem to have any form of dirt paths for pedestrians or props for making my own parks (which I didn't need mods or DLC for either)
This new mod thing is a major pain in the ass! Spent two hours jumping through all the hoops only to have to uninstall and start over. This is a joke, put the damn mods back on steam Paradox and stop trying to reinvent the wheel. 😤🤬
If code MODs work the same as the game, does that mean there will be no mods which fix the game by changing how the game works?
The mods caused my game to get in loading screen of nothing but the sky and water. Will not load.
I want to see a mod where you can stack the road on the normal 1-6 lane road to a highway because you cant stack those
I hate that they've been JUST TALKING for months without releasing anything significant. I'm just fucking tired of seeing news with nothing to follow.
You know that this patch comes out in three days, right? I would say that is finally news with something to follow. Fixing a broken game will take time.
It should have come out Oct this year!
The first mod I put in is the FPS booster from CS1. We need to stabilize it.
Can't wait to play this game in maybe 3 years!
There is a new mod in development called Damm-It
Its suppose to install CS-1
Just to clarify there is no official mods right? you mean official mod interface/support? all (or 99% of mods) will be third party unofficial mods on the official platform
the fact that sc2 didn't ship with full modding support from the getgo i think was one of the reason for its butched launch .. they shud've known better,, also it would've let the modding crowd fix if not all but most of the fkups they made with the basegame... but that train has sailed now, all they can hope for is this will bring some attention back to the game