It's deadly if you move the piece at all as it cools! Once it cools, there's no problem, but before, move will cause that "cold" joint and cold means you've got that weak structure that forms with movement. A student and I did some rings. I showed her how and she did the other one, but apparently she moved her ring while it cooled. The next morning her husband watched as one side of her panel let loose and swung by one corner (good thing they hung it from two chains and not just one in a loop)❤❤❤
We;re using 1/2" rings. Most hobby and stained glass stores have them. The secret is to hold the ring very still as it cools so it forms a strong joint.
Just have to be able to take solder. There is copper than is coated with lacquer which doesn't work at all. Non coated copper works well. Nickel plated jump rings solder well. Galvanized wire will also solder well.
Zinc can be soldered, Copper works but not as strong so it's needs to be wider material, make sure the rings are attached to strong points that won't stretch or pull away
Say you have a oval stained glass piece with a zinc edge. The design is asymmetrical rainbow with soldering seams on the left and none on the right could you still solder a jump ring on the zinc (1 on both sides)? I know you should usually try to put the rings near solder seams, but in this case the right has none. I hope that makes sense.
It's possible to place your rings as you've described but will it work? That depends on the length of the space that is un-supported If it's fairly short and the window isn't very heavy then it could work. I've had panels that had poor design where the zinc has pulled away, we've fixed it and it has pulled away again. Then we had to fix it again and add reinforcement to the design so it wouldn't pull away again.
Rings are split. If you open them up, they should slide right into the holes, slide them back together and you can hang your panel. You may want to solder the split once it's back together so it won't open at the wrong time.
@@GommStainedGlass Thanks for the quick answer! Couldn't find it by googling and as a Scandinavian I wasn't familiar with this. I found your video very informative. I need to hang a bigger work of mine (just under 3' :-) between the window glasses (we have double window here) as a and it's been a while since doing this so I wanted to check it online.
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Very helpful! Thank you! I enjoy your videos so much.
Thank you, we enjoy doing them!
Can you solder on top of the frame? So the piece can be switched from front to back for display? On a circular piece. :)
Putting a ring on top would be weaker, I wouldn't do it. However there's nothing to stop you from soldering a ring to both sides and using them both.
This was very helpful! Thank you.
Thanks, did you try the magic trick of putting rings together Abracadabra!😀
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Mine must have been a cold joint
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It's deadly if you move the piece at all as it cools! Once it cools, there's no problem, but before, move will cause that "cold" joint and cold means you've got that weak structure that forms with movement. A student and I did some rings. I showed her how and she did the other one, but apparently she moved her ring while it cooled. The next morning her husband watched as one side of her panel let loose and swung by one corner (good thing they hung it from two chains and not just one in a loop)❤❤❤
Do you have a video on how to install an oval 4' piece of stain glass into a door?
We don't but we'll make one next time we do that
Very helpful, thank you!!
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Thank you so much
I hope that is helpful!
What size jump ring are you using for larger panels and where can i buy them?
We;re using 1/2" rings. Most hobby and stained glass stores have them. The secret is to hold the ring very still as it cools so it forms a strong joint.
What type of metal is the ring? Will any type of metal work?
Just have to be able to take solder. There is copper than is coated with lacquer which doesn't work at all. Non coated copper works well. Nickel plated jump rings solder well. Galvanized wire will also solder well.
How big of ring should I use for a piece 32” high x 20” wide?
1/4" rings usually work well
What metal should the rings be made of? Copper,, tin, silver? What is best. I have a 4x5 window I need to hang .. I’ve done smaller windows Yikes!!!
Zinc can be soldered, Copper works but not as strong so it's needs to be wider material, make sure the rings are attached to strong points that won't stretch or pull away
Say you have a oval stained glass piece with a zinc edge. The design is asymmetrical rainbow with soldering seams on the left and none on the right could you still solder a jump ring on the zinc (1 on both sides)? I know you should usually try to put the rings near solder seams, but in this case the right has none. I hope that makes sense.
It's possible to place your rings as you've described but will it work? That depends on the length of the space that is un-supported If it's fairly short and the window isn't very heavy then it could work. I've had panels that had poor design where the zinc has pulled away, we've fixed it and it has pulled away again. Then we had to fix it again and add reinforcement to the design so it wouldn't pull away again.
I have a piece with two small holes on the top came. How can I use these to hang the piece?
Rings are split. If you open them up, they should slide right into the holes, slide them back together and you can hang your panel. You may want to solder the split once it's back together so it won't open at the wrong time.
I like to use screw eyes inserted into the channel of the zinc came and soldering it. It is easier than doing rings
Great Idea!
How much weight will the jump rings hold?
It will usually hold the weight of a standard window. When we have a window that is more than 3' wide, we'll add an extra ring.
@@GommStainedGlass What does 3' actually mean? Is it 3 feet? As 0,9 meter?
@@johannah2270 Yes The little mark after the 3 ' means feet. Good question!
@@GommStainedGlass Thanks for the quick answer! Couldn't find it by googling and as a Scandinavian I wasn't familiar with this. I found your video very informative. I need to hang a bigger work of mine (just under 3' :-) between the window glasses (we have double window here) as a and it's been a while since doing this so I wanted to check it online.
@@johannah2270 Good Luck, we'd love to see a photo of your completed project.
What gauge wire for the rings?
The video that's linked to this one on making your own rings tells you. The gauge we prefer is 18 gauge.
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Solder solder solder solder SOLDER GET IT SOL DER ,NOT SODDER NO NO SOD DER S.O.L.D.E.R. NOT !!!!!! S.O.D.D.E.R.
PRONOUNCED SOLE DER!.
EDUCATIONAL FINISHED YOUR WELCOME .
Maybe you live in England where they pronounce it that way, but in America it's pronounced the way I say it.
Just like aluminum. Pronounce differently on both sides of the pond.
@@Popper_ I always use the English pronunciation when I'm trying to spell aluminum