The Houndmaster’s strength has become a very interesting debate in the DbD community, with some players saying she is Top 5 and overbuffed, while others believe that she is good as is, not close to top 10. This is my thoughts and what changes I would give to her!
To be honest she is just a worse version of the knight.(also in my honest opinion they should have made her scarier. DBD has become too dependent on the licences and the results are bad original characters)
@Bohh219She's a better version of Knight. Faster while her dog is on patrol, has actually useful chase power. She has everything Knight has but better besides base movement speed which is countered by her being faster than Knight at any point when dog is searching. Yes a woman that is like in her late forties with a dog is more dangerous to run away from than a knight with 3 guards.
@Bohh219 I have to disagree, before the buffs I 100% agree she was a worse version of Knight, but now she is significantly stronger than him. The only think Knight got above her is Macro, which does not compensate enough against how fast Houndmaster can down survivors with 0 care if they predrop pallets.
I legitimately thought houndmaster was ok at the beginning but honestly these buffs made her so much more fun to use and she actually presents a real threat when playing against her
Right? I genuinely like facing her and trying to dodge her dog. I feel so alone with this. I’d rather face her than my fourth Huntress that day. (Love Huntress, but I get her like every three matches.)
@@NicxCoay I liked facing her before the buffs. Now it just feels like she gets free downs without even having to try, and is incredibly boring to even play as with how easy and brain dead they made it.
@@hopoutattheafterparty6245 As a Killer main, I don’t ever get this complaint. If you know how to play around their perks and items, survivors can’t do much to you. With Flashlights; face a wall, do a 180 every time you pick up, scare survivors off first. It’s not hard. You even get free downs or hits more often from them having a flashlight than they actually get a save. More over, I want survivors to bring these things. Bring flashlights, head on, lutes, scene partner, blast mine, anything. I want survivors to interact with me and make the match fun. Searching 10 minutes for survivors hiding in bushes and not engaging with me is boring.
Something you forgot to mention as well, they made the dog chase hitbox bigger, making landing bites a lot easier It went from 0.5m to 0.65m which doesn't sound crazy but I imagine when it comes to how forgiving it is, it makes a big difference
Waht is your point spirit was bad on the PPB too now she is S our high A Tier and he isn't saying she should be nerved in my opinion nerfing the vault speed would be a good idea and maybe a missed atacke nerf @@violenceiskey4977
@@violenceiskey4977 It's a noteworthy change that wasn't mentioned in the video idk how you projected or found some kind of negative balance opinion from my comment because there isn't one in there.
That's true, it does make her a bit easier but I haven't seen a single person complain about this, funnily enough! I think that change is perfectly fine!
Yeah one thing that made me frustrated was how small snugs hitbox was I can land a slinger shot more often than a bite. But glad there's a slight bigger margin for a bite. Now all they need is to fix search. I have a hard time getting snug to target specific gens a d totems. At least you can send him to the exit gates.
Making her power CD 3 seconds was the biggest mistake imo. It should go back to 5, with the vault buff and bug fixes she needs a semi-long CD on Snug so she actually gets punished for whiffing or the survivors get rewarded for dodging.
Agree, with the 3 second cool down, it feels like Knight's Garting strategy (where he'd shart out a guard, then would pincer survivors.) Like a loose loose situation.
Classic BHVR moment of releasing a killer in a bad state and then overcompensating instead of actually playtesting. Labour of love moment. I still think her power is crazy. How is it a good idea to have a 115% killer, with a ranged M2 that is easier to use than both deathslinger and even huntress with her shitty hitboxes (both of those being 110%) which recharges in about the same time as the basic cooldown for your M1 (and if you stun the dog, it also lasts 3 seconds so no punishment there), with a hitbox that is a bit more than double the size than Wesker's M2 (30 cms v/s houndmaster's 65 cms according to patch notes and DBD wiki), the dog's vault speed being faster than survivors', and recharging her power without punisment (huntress and PH are slower while aiming and deathslinger is slower while reloading, all of these killers having no base tracking abilities). And she can also get haste with her power which can easily stack with other perks. Plus, with the tendency to shrink maps in size AND in chase resources (with some exceptions), it makes her very powerful on a variety of maps whereas a lot of other killers, ranged or not, are more map-dependent. And not accounting the fact that even in maps with good resources, playing around the timing of her M2 is much harder compared to other killers with strong anti-loop skills like Vecna (and with him, you get the object that gives you haste against mage hand), PH, Huntress, Wesker (although in higher MMR this could be a bit debatable with his hug tech but I still find him to be really balanced) and so on. I believe the only killer who was able to hinder you and gain haste herself through her base kit was SM and you all see how that one went, but correct me if I'm wrong LOL. Why didnd't they just fix the hitbox size but kept the cooldown where it was, and maybe slightly tweak some other aspects of her power instead of buffing almost everything?
Lose-lose situationion around pallets with Houndmaster that you mentioned was made up like 5 times already. Was an excuse to call nemesis, xeno or even trickster too opressive on their release. With newest killer the key is just to drop pallet AFTER she sent a dog so you can just stun the dog with no damage unlike killers before
Xeno, Nemesis and Trickster were also regarded by many survivors as some of the worst killers to play against (Especially Xeno and Trickster) but Trickster is in no way a lose lose situation around pallets, it's only lose lose in low wall loops. Also, you can miss with all of those killers. I have missed close whips and tail attacks with Nemesis and Xeno. Houndmaster aims for you, so there is no skill shot involved!
@@MintSkull Trickster will get you eventually at basically any loop in the game. He hits 2 knives walks round, hits 2 knives repeats, since dodging them only gives him more of an oppertunity due to how fast he throws them The only killer out of them that you can realistically miss is xeno. Nemesis can drag is hitbox to the point where he misses the whip, then walks to the side to make it connect anyway he has the worst unintuitive hitbox in dbd and "missing" as trickster doesnt matter, you have 40 more knives who cares if you miss 10, 20 of them Houndmaster doesnt really aim for you, you're confusing the massive speed of the dog vaulting and its larger hit box after the patch leading to survivors not having enough time to juke and having a pretty forgiving hitbox as players got used to her. If you just pick a middle number between release and now you give survivors a chance to dodge the dog, and give her a punishment of missing then she is much more fun
Not really related to the video, but am I the only one who thinks it was weird to make the pirate killer also the dog killer? Like having a pirate killer is awesome and I’m about, having a killer with a pet dog is also something I’m about, but having a pirate killer with a pet dog is very random to me. Did any historical pirates have dogs? Would this killer have a better story and power without the dogs and a more pirate themed ability instead? What do you think?
I kind of like the dog part because I think it means we could maybe get another pirate killer one day. Her power itself isn’t piratey at all, so maybe one day we could get another pirate named like The Captain or something. I love pirates, so having two piratey killers would be cool. And why not, ya know? We have two chainsaw cannibals in the game and 2-4 aliens (depending on what Unknown really is and if you count Hux). And we have two ghosts, with Spirit & Sadako. So maybe we could have room for two pirates. The fog took Molak in Portia’s lore, so I think it would be cool if one day we got him as a killer and finally get the pirate/ship/sea map I’ve always wanted. Running around a big pirate ship would be so cool! And having a killer that directly connects to another, like Spirit & Oni, would also be cool.
@ I agree I think Molak would be an awesome killer but I don’t think they’ll do anything with him. Jordan was a character we thought we’d get as a survivor and all he did was show up in Tauries lore randomly. Benedict and Vigo were thought to come some day and instead just disappeared
@@bababouille9707True, but I really do think we’ll get Jordan one day and maybe Julien. Maybe as skins for other characters? Though I hope as their own. I’m not sure about Vigo or Benedict, though I hope so. I think the problem is that BHVR have really slowed down the number of original chapters. We get like one a year now. Which sucks, because I get way more excited for them. I think if they were still alternating between original and licensed, then we already would have Jordan & maybe Julien. Oh, well. Maybe some day.
If they do ever add Molak, it would be cool if they added voicelines for them in 2v8. lol. Like if they end up paired together in that mode. If I was playing her and got paired with a Molak, I’d just have to chase him the whole match. :) We’re getting Oni next 2v8, so at least we’ll have those two connected killers, which is cool.
@@NicxCoay I like the original chapters a lot as well, some of the licensed content is phenomenal but it kinda leaves a dead end for lore with those. I wish they acted more like permanent important characters rather than, hey Michael is here too while all these characters have huge lore implications. As for 2v8, Oni would be so cool imagine how much BLOOD is gonna be on the map with 8 injured survivors
The people that want Houndmaster to get nerfed really hate any killer that has power, she is not overpowered, you can dodge the dog most of the times and the dog itself is still buggy, survivors actually need to start to get better bc its crazy how they give up so easily in matches.
Yeah, I don’t get it. I think she’s fun to face. I really like killers where you have to dodge a rush attack, like her or Billy or Blight. They are some of my favorite to face. I hate when my teammates just give up on hook. At least DC so we can have a body doing gens!
I was watching the gameplay of this video and was like. Do survivors just not try to dodge the dog??? Cupcake is getting sent half-map and players are just running in a straight line lol
@@atlasgraham154I play both sides and I feel like killer perks and killers get nerfed way too much, survivors need to get some of there stuff nerfed to make it more fair
Let's all ignore that the dog is crazy fast, there's no decent indication of the dog being sent, AND all latency operates in favor of the killer since hits are registered on killer client (this has been objectively observed and confirmed by BHVR, don't try to argue it). Oh yeah, and since there's essentially no cool down and the killer can move at normal 115 while the dog charges, there's effectively no upside to dodging anyways. That makes it a good bit rougher than people would think. Y'all are just on the other end of the extreme where if your killer main doesn't 4k trounce every team, they're not powerful enough. There is a happy middle, but it's not this and it's not the extreme that some others demand. Technically, a truly "fair" killer would 2k every game and tie outside of skill gaps, but I'm POSITIVE y'all don't think the same. Y'all really can't expect to have constructive conversations when your counter argument is always "skill issue", as that can be abused both on the killer and survivor end of the spectrum. People could argue that the issues with Houndmaster before were just skill issues..they'd be absurdly wrong, but it's a simple argument that requires no explanation or backing. What I'm trying to get at is: "dodge better" is not a solution to a practically non existent cool down with a power that can traverse pallets and close distance at an unprecedented rate.
They need to nerf the cooldown of her chase back to 5 seconds, buff her rope addon to like, 5%, and then nerf the vault speed a tiny bit. They should do it so if you send Snug to vault at the perfect time (assuming he doesn’t damage) you still grab them but if you don’t time it good enough the vault is fast enough for you to redirect quickly.
My favorite killer to play in a long time, even when she was bugged. The buff was mad, but i couldnt put my finger on why. I think you nailed it. Dont want her to destroyed though, i love playing her too much
the dog shouldn't be be able to down people who are midvault. they should be put into deepwounds like deathslinger when he shoots someone over a pallet but even so i just think it looks weird with how fast the dog vaults, its so fast it looks like he teleports 🤣
She is kinda fun to play against, but there is a bug right now in which she will sometimes not whistle before sending the dog out in chase, if that issue was fixed I think she is perfect
I disagree with people saying she has "no counterplay" with the dog vault speed, survivors can fake the pallet drop/vault to make her miss or force her to cancel it. Her counterplay is blocking line of sight like a bunch of ranged killers in this game.
Yeah, if you don’t drop the pallet, Houndmaster has to mind game it or Snug gets stunned (Which if I’m not going crazy actually has a noticeably longer cooldown).
14:06 Idea: Missed Snug grabs give you the 4 second cooldown, while hit Snug grabs give you a 5 second cooldown. It would make her a little less oppressive while still letting her stay in the higher tiers
I always thought she was worth to buy, cause her teachables were interesting. We got: -Coup the grace 2, electric boogalo -I like scourge hooks, how did you know ? -Merciless storm, but for self care.
You forget her biggest weakness… a weakness that the pig and dracula also have. This weakness can turn a 4k game into a 0k if the survivors abuse it…… If they boop the snoot they can live!❤❤❤
We've had killers like Nurse, Chucky's Scamper and Vecna pre-patch who completely invalidate pallets with their powers, which players ABSOLUTELY DISLIKE and their idea for Houndpirate is to just...let her do that same bullshit too? Huh???
Wesker with 1/3 cooldown, longer distance on bounds, can bound after vaulting with no speed penalty, can vault faster than wesker, does not have to wait for survivors to finish vaulting to vault after them, has stronger addons than wesker, has probably better map mobility than wesker, a built in hug tech, with the bound path displayed for the killer, missing is nowhere near as punishing, has a bug that removes the sound queue for the bound, the list goes on . Wesker has some decent slowdown that she doesnt. Seems totally balanced to me. Oh yeah and her dogs hitbox is more than double the width of weskers.
How come my survivors dodge every attack and correcly throw every pallet at the poor dog? I mean, I can't be that high MMR. She feels strong in a few situations but saying she's busted or OP is wrong imo, she's just a mid-high tier killer (definately lower than huntress or blight). Also, the dog gets stuck on walls and stairs, often meaning i've got no power, that should be the thing that gets changed before even talking about a nerf. Also, search mode objects targetting is still terrible.
Its obvious they want to incentivize using her power a lot I hope they incorporate something similar to knight where the dog comes back a bit slower with attacks but the search feature stays at a shorter cooldown
@@cjames9320 I have so much fun having a killer immediately be able to use their power after just gaining a hit with said power that has virtually no downsides. Imagine if Huntress had no slowdown or hatchet wind up time and was able to immediately land another hatchet after just throwing one. That is what the Houndmaster is rn. Nerf her cd by 2 seconds and nerf dog vault by .3 and she will be fun to actually play against.
Dracula is a vampire and turns into a werewolf and isnt as fast as that dog.The animations are extremely buggy looking and immersion breaking. She is ridiculously overbuffed and needs more counterplay.
I think houndmaster is okay, it’ll just take some time for people to get used to her. They can consider kicking the vault speed down just a little (0.45 -> 0.6) but other than that she’s fine I think she just about levels with huntress or a little higher which is fine. Edit: also if nurse ain’t getting nerfed to be fair then I don’t think houndmaster should get nerfed very much at all.
I think the issue with how she is currently is using her power effectively guarantees a hit even when you miss. Ie. Slinger you experience slowdown (and 110), Vecna the same although a little less, huntress the same (and 110), etc etc. With her power, you can just chuck it willy nilly and if it misses, redirect OR dont bother because you can 115 walk around the other side while theyre forced to dodge the dog and just smack them. THAT'S why people complain theres minimal to no counterplay. As Minty mentioned, theres zero downside to spamming her power with the absurd cooldown and it allows for a crazy type of zoning that literally no other killer can achieve at the same level. This turns every chase into spam dog chases and absurdly quick downs with the survivor really not being able to do anything about it because theres zero time to make distance and youre constantly being zoned. Plus her power serves as anti-loop, so good loops aren't even really safe. It literally takes away EVERY mechanic built for survivors to extend chase. Mind you, all of these things are easily observable with baby Houndmasters..just wait until people actually get good with her 😅 I'm all for a strong killer, but that doesn't mean that there's ZERO drawbacks to just spamming your power around. That makes for a super low skill ceiling and a horrible time for anyone versing the killer.
People saying she is not overpowered should try to just play 3 matches of solo q and experience the pain of going down in 5 seconds because if you drop the pallet: yoi're dead, if you don't, you're dead, if you try to dodge, dw, you're also dead.
She is good when she works now, the issue is that she is still filled with bugs. I'd rather have a slightly scaled back killer and a bug free experience.
She must not be that popular I haven't seen anyone use her same goes for the Lich and Dracula everyone says they're popular Killers yet I haven't seen anybody play them
Pretty sure vault speed is waaay faster than 0.45 and bugged. Example look at the first vault in the video on ormand and then the second one on lerys. the one on lerys is way faster…idk what it is but its very inconsistent.
The sound bug also applies to chucky. If he is talking during his charge up you won’t here him do his wind up yell and only here him yelling during his slice and dice. It’s so annoying and im surprised they haven’t fixed it yet.
They also gave her proper facial animations during the match, mori, and lobby like Chucky launched with. (And Chucky's facial rigging has been disabled/bugged for months now.)
I was afraid with all of her bugs and the map not being with the chapter release date we were gonna see a botched overall released killer such as the tools of torment chapter. So I'm glad they were least quick with the changes
Shes fine the way she is now, survivors just need to learn that when she whistles at a palate - you wait for the dog to grab you THEN you drop the palate. If you pre throw you just lose now.
That type of killer also depend on the experience, to me we need some time to see how it does after people start to get used to her new strength (like wesker). Then we will get the full picture, to see if she is too strong or just very good
I was thinking about the houndmaster's ability to see dog's line of dash. The older still killlers dont have this ability basekit or need special add-on, which in my opinion, is very outdated, however, even most recent killers like Dracula can't do it too. Just why, Behavior?
@creativeartstudios6792 i thought about the flames, but the point is that some killers HAVE options to show their power's travel point locked behind add-ons, and that just strange how it's still not basekit
@badguy3602 I think hound master has because the dog could be on any side of her at any point. The other killers the ranged attack always is launched from the same direction. If that makes sense.
This. So much. They'll spin it adound to pretend it's untrue, but really if the killer is reliably good they just hate it, even though 60% is the ragio bhvr aims for, and it also factors in dcs, which happen every other match....it's almost like whoever is first downed will dc 50% of the time
@@magical571this makes no sense blight is one of the strongest killers in the game and is liked by majority of the player base it’s okay to admit bhvr went slightly overboard on these buffs like a killer being strong does not mean there boring trapper is weak but many players find him boring wesker is strong and regarded as a very fun killer to vs the Us vs them arguments are actually insane also dcs don’t affect kill rates they’ve literally stated this on forums and in reddit qna’s
@christianftt3136 I've not heard any survivor say I like going against blight at all, but they love to see a bubba because most of the time he's trash and easily loopable
Biggest thing i don't understand why they made entire new killer inster reworking twins in same way? Change dog model with Victor model andd houndmaster with Sharlot and we have a great rework
Snug currently moves at 40-50 mps, 1000-1250% move speed. If the houndmaster changes stay as they are but Snug moves at 10mps, 250%, closer to reality, i think it would be okay
The real problem in my opinion is that survs don't want to learn new ways to loop, I play her new version and is not even that strong, even if she ends up as a A or even S tier killer, is not broken or anything. Survivors always complain when strong killers release because they yet not know how to counter their mechanics. Also the dog still bugs a lot, so this is just compensating all the chases you lose due to the dog getting stuck somewhere else.
Since everyone and their mom is playing her right now I had quite a few matches against her And my biggest complaint is that there is just not enough risk to her power and no reward if you dodge it She has it back almost immediatly and no slowdown, so most of the time I dodge the dog Im in a position where she can just get a normal m1 anyway And it is actually sad because I did love playing against her before the buff when dodging actually made a difference
Huntress takes 0.9 seconds to ready a hatchet to almost-instantly injure a survivor over a pallet Houndmaster takes 1.0 second to get Snug attached to the survivors, which another survivor can help them with I don't think the fact Snug jumps over pallets so fast is a bad thing Maybe slow it a little bit, but it should definitely be less than it was on release
It's funny how mintskull compares the Houndmaster with hountress and slinger. If you see her chase attack as Weskers dash, its almost the same. No real penalty if you missed it, the hug tech is as busted as the dash. Both do not need to completely stop when using your power. We needed a new Wesker, why not give her a pass like him? 🤔
Perfect nerf suggestions nothing major just small minor tweaks to not give her free two taps and free hits at vaults hopefully they don’t overnerf, I didn’t realize the no whistle audio was also present on the survivor side I thought it was just bugged from the killers POV
Houndmaster counter: Stop holding W, actually look behind you in chase, zig-zag, and hug loops. That said, Mint Skull is right; she just needs some tweaks on her cooldown and her vault speed -- but, because the complainers are the ones BHVR listens too, she's probably going to get the Chucky/Skull Merchant/Pig/Freddy treatment and become a meme killer.
She’s fantastic. Very good character now, I will say that her chase cooldown feels a little fast if you grab > hit > follow up, but then when you miss the first try, the cooldown is between 5 and 10 seconds because the dog has to catch up. It feels like they’re rewarding the wrong part of her. Overall I’m very happy with her now, she’s very fun to play and also fun to play against. Good and interactive counterplay while having strong anti loop. Would’ve been a slam dunk if she initially shipped like thi
The main thing is would say is the issue before even watching this is that her vault speed for her dog was way overtuned every other change I think is fine even the hitbox change because sometimes u would throw the dog and it would go through ppl
A dog should vault faster than a human. Come on, think about it. Increase the cooldown instead, I think its bugged anyway. It seems to cool down while the survivor is in a grab, so you can do it immediately after hitting them, and thats when you can't hear the whistle too. If you had to actually wait 3-4 sec, it would give the survivor a few secs after the wipe animation to get distance, but thats it, no vault speed nerfs. Alien, Nemesis, Unknown, Huntress, Deathslinger, Wesker, low pro Billy etc, can all hit a bad survivor at a pallet if they don't fake and vacuum the pallet properly. We nerfing all them too? If they nerf all the new killers to be weaker than the A teirs, nobody will play them, so you'll just face only A teirs anyway. You guys want to only play Weskers, Nurses, and Blights? Sounds boring to me. Mabee let sone new killers take the spotlight, and learn to beat them.
THANK YOU. I seen 0 people point out the mind games with HM and just say "SHE WEAK. NOT NURSE LEVEL KILLER". And it gets kind of repetitive as someone who decided to main her because she feels like she has a lot of skill play unlike other single power or repetative killers.
She still feels very clunky to play as, I really dislike the slowdown she applies on herself while readying or recovering from a command. The dog also still has some issues/bugs, some of those are caused by the roaming snowmen from the current event. I've yet to make her work, all I get are 0-1Ks from people completing gens far too fast. The biggest nuisance is how long it takes to point at a generator for the dog to draw a path to due to how inaccurate the system is. You easily lose 2-3 seconds on attempts.
I feel that she (like Chucky at launch) doesn't pay enough for all the advantages she gets. Either her power is easy to use, but weak(er) or it's hard to use but strong. Her power is braindead easy to use, guaranteeing hits, and she doesn't really pay ANYTHING for it. Missed? Just wait a couple seconds, with no slowdown at all.
If you're dumb and predrop against her sure she's OP and gives her a free hit. The same thing can happen with huntress and hell even old skull merchant laser tag. That's a you problem not the killer. I've been playing ttf out of her, she plays like a pinhead x huntress hybrid now. I think the cooldown can go back to 4s. The slower cooldown can balance out if she misses. But the vault speed needs to stay or at least more in line to the Huntresss hatchets. Perhaps an in between.
She just needed the flees removed from Snug and she would be just fine. But BHVR decided to give Snug a hoverboard. Which is nice and cool but not really fair to the rest of the bunch.
She’s objectively better than the knight in one sense her dog gives you exactly what you need a slow a lot of survivors got speed boosts and that makes it a lot easier
@VladDracula_Tepes well what else is there left? They obviously cant keep up with the new content theyre pumping out and their attempt at making other big games (casting of frank stone and project T which is canned) have resulted in significant damage to their financial state. Obviously the dense fans and the investors, that want profit right at that moment and not later down the line, wouldn't be happy and the alternative would be to let the game rot. They have unironically dug themselves into a hole. The only financial saving grace, besides a health update, would be some big dlc/show for darkest dungeon 2 (Behavour did acquire Red Hook Studios and I assume they're acting as some sort of publisher for RH) or a hail mary of a licensed chapter like jason or anytging else in that ball park
And obviously they cant skip any planned licensed chapters as that would create a sour taste with any license holder. So with the rumours of the next 3 chapters being licensed they would only manage a health update by the summer of 2026 because theres no way theyre gonna skip on content during october december and anniversary events
The Houndmaster’s strength has become a very interesting debate in the DbD community, with some players saying she is Top 5 and overbuffed, while others believe that she is good as is, not close to top 10. This is my thoughts and what changes I would give to her!
Thx for info.❤
To be honest she is just a worse version of the knight.(also in my honest opinion they should have made her scarier. DBD has become too dependent on the licences and the results are bad original characters)
@Bohh219She's a better version of Knight. Faster while her dog is on patrol, has actually useful chase power. She has everything Knight has but better besides base movement speed which is countered by her being faster than Knight at any point when dog is searching. Yes a woman that is like in her late forties with a dog is more dangerous to run away from than a knight with 3 guards.
@frogsterlicous7040 might be me but I find her buggy to be honest
@Bohh219 I have to disagree, before the buffs I 100% agree she was a worse version of Knight, but now she is significantly stronger than him. The only think Knight got above her is Macro, which does not compensate enough against how fast Houndmaster can down survivors with 0 care if they predrop pallets.
Saw the thumbnail and thought I was going insane
Deadass tho
First it was Spookyloopz, and now MintSkull
love the pfp @cylon_
Is that allowed. That's moist criticals iconic thumbnail?
Peak thumbnail and title
Spooky loops did it first
@@white_hound6811I think he got it from someone else. But we can appreciate it.
The MintSkull situation is crazy
One thing they absolutely need to fix is the targeting on gens for the search mode. Oh my god, it's so inconsistent
They already did.😂 Like several patches ago.
@SkyBlitz64 well, they didn't, because it's still shit
@bopply2616 Sounds like you should update your hardware, hardly hear anybody speaking of gen targeting being a problem. 😁
Indeed, it's so bad!
@@SkyBlitz64 No, the targeting is still shit and inconsistent.
The Charlie thumbnail nailed it. 🤣
Thank you! Was a friend's suggestion to embrace the shitposty nature of my thumbnails :D
I legitimately thought houndmaster was ok at the beginning but honestly these buffs made her so much more fun to use and she actually presents a real threat when playing against her
Right? I genuinely like facing her and trying to dodge her dog. I feel so alone with this. I’d rather face her than my fourth Huntress that day. (Love Huntress, but I get her like every three matches.)
@@NicxCoay
I liked facing her before the buffs. Now it just feels like she gets free downs without even having to try, and is incredibly boring to even play as with how easy and brain dead they made it.
You like facing free win killers and hate it when killers can actually compete with the bullshit survivors have
@@hopoutattheafterparty6245 As a Killer main, I don’t ever get this complaint. If you know how to play around their perks and items, survivors can’t do much to you. With Flashlights; face a wall, do a 180 every time you pick up, scare survivors off first. It’s not hard. You even get free downs or hits more often from them having a flashlight than they actually get a save.
More over, I want survivors to bring these things. Bring flashlights, head on, lutes, scene partner, blast mine, anything. I want survivors to interact with me and make the match fun. Searching 10 minutes for survivors hiding in bushes and not engaging with me is boring.
Something you forgot to mention as well, they made the dog chase hitbox bigger, making landing bites a lot easier
It went from 0.5m to 0.65m which doesn't sound crazy but I imagine when it comes to how forgiving it is, it makes a big difference
☠️ so what smh she good now lol she was terrible before
Waht is your point spirit was bad on the PPB too now she is S our high A Tier and he isn't saying she should be nerved in my opinion nerfing the vault speed would be a good idea and maybe a missed atacke nerf @@violenceiskey4977
@@violenceiskey4977 It's a noteworthy change that wasn't mentioned in the video
idk how you projected or found some kind of negative balance opinion from my comment because there isn't one in there.
That's true, it does make her a bit easier but I haven't seen a single person complain about this, funnily enough! I think that change is perfectly fine!
Yeah one thing that made me frustrated was how small snugs hitbox was I can land a slinger shot more often than a bite. But glad there's a slight bigger margin for a bite. Now all they need is to fix search. I have a hard time getting snug to target specific gens a d totems. At least you can send him to the exit gates.
I hate going against her it feels like snug doesnt even hit me and I some how get grabbed
Don't trust your feelings
@Ashy_Slashy3 I will allways trust my feelings AshySlashy and I wil continue to have you on my hand as I do generators for all of eternity
@spirit2788. Arrrrgh!
I still see snug rub against survivors legs after I send him out and doesn't grab them so idk blame hitboxes
@spirit2788. Arrrrgh!
The hound master had a rough launch but I feel that there will be a lot of people maining her
Already ahead of you. Been binging her since release and I haven't had this much fun playing DbD in months.
@ Nice I main Deathslinger
Tbf she has a dog, most people will want to use her because of it
@ It’s the only reason I’d get her. Plus I love pitbulls
Still playing her from release she’s soo fun especially when you hit you dog commands
Making her power CD 3 seconds was the biggest mistake imo. It should go back to 5, with the vault buff and bug fixes she needs a semi-long CD on Snug so she actually gets punished for whiffing or the survivors get rewarded for dodging.
Shhh, you can’t admit that the killer is overtuned around here…
She's too cheap with 4.6 movement and her anti-window dog.
they should do one or the other and avoid removing all the buffs because she was so sluggish before
What classifies as anti window?@@MsGhoulz
Agree, with the 3 second cool down, it feels like Knight's Garting strategy (where he'd shart out a guard, then would pincer survivors.) Like a loose loose situation.
I'm the Ada on that Lery's match, after I saw your name on the end screen I knew I was gonna be on a new Houndmaster video :D gg and good vid Skull!
Lucky! Thanks for being a part of the vibes 💛🐍
“They made her a bit less buggier” behaviour proceeds to kill switch her because of bugs and exploits
Classic BHVR moment of releasing a killer in a bad state and then overcompensating instead of actually playtesting. Labour of love moment.
I still think her power is crazy. How is it a good idea to have a 115% killer, with a ranged M2 that is easier to use than both deathslinger and even huntress with her shitty hitboxes (both of those being 110%) which recharges in about the same time as the basic cooldown for your M1 (and if you stun the dog, it also lasts 3 seconds so no punishment there), with a hitbox that is a bit more than double the size than Wesker's M2 (30 cms v/s houndmaster's 65 cms according to patch notes and DBD wiki), the dog's vault speed being faster than survivors', and recharging her power without punisment (huntress and PH are slower while aiming and deathslinger is slower while reloading, all of these killers having no base tracking abilities). And she can also get haste with her power which can easily stack with other perks. Plus, with the tendency to shrink maps in size AND in chase resources (with some exceptions), it makes her very powerful on a variety of maps whereas a lot of other killers, ranged or not, are more map-dependent. And not accounting the fact that even in maps with good resources, playing around the timing of her M2 is much harder compared to other killers with strong anti-loop skills like Vecna (and with him, you get the object that gives you haste against mage hand), PH, Huntress, Wesker (although in higher MMR this could be a bit debatable with his hug tech but I still find him to be really balanced) and so on. I believe the only killer who was able to hinder you and gain haste herself through her base kit was SM and you all see how that one went, but correct me if I'm wrong LOL.
Why didnd't they just fix the hitbox size but kept the cooldown where it was, and maybe slightly tweak some other aspects of her power instead of buffing almost everything?
Lose-lose situationion around pallets with Houndmaster that you mentioned was made up like 5 times already. Was an excuse to call nemesis, xeno or even trickster too opressive on their release. With newest killer the key is just to drop pallet AFTER she sent a dog so you can just stun the dog with no damage unlike killers before
Xeno, Nemesis and Trickster were also regarded by many survivors as some of the worst killers to play against (Especially Xeno and Trickster) but Trickster is in no way a lose lose situation around pallets, it's only lose lose in low wall loops. Also, you can miss with all of those killers. I have missed close whips and tail attacks with Nemesis and Xeno. Houndmaster aims for you, so there is no skill shot involved!
@@MintSkull
Trickster will get you eventually at basically any loop in the game. He hits 2 knives walks round, hits 2 knives repeats, since dodging them only gives him more of an oppertunity due to how fast he throws them
The only killer out of them that you can realistically miss is xeno. Nemesis can drag is hitbox to the point where he misses the whip, then walks to the side to make it connect anyway he has the worst unintuitive hitbox in dbd and "missing" as trickster doesnt matter, you have 40 more knives who cares if you miss 10, 20 of them
Houndmaster doesnt really aim for you, you're confusing the massive speed of the dog vaulting and its larger hit box after the patch leading to survivors not having enough time to juke and having a pretty forgiving hitbox as players got used to her. If you just pick a middle number between release and now you give survivors a chance to dodge the dog, and give her a punishment of missing then she is much more fun
Not really related to the video, but am I the only one who thinks it was weird to make the pirate killer also the dog killer? Like having a pirate killer is awesome and I’m about, having a killer with a pet dog is also something I’m about, but having a pirate killer with a pet dog is very random to me. Did any historical pirates have dogs? Would this killer have a better story and power without the dogs and a more pirate themed ability instead? What do you think?
I kind of like the dog part because I think it means we could maybe get another pirate killer one day. Her power itself isn’t piratey at all, so maybe one day we could get another pirate named like The Captain or something. I love pirates, so having two piratey killers would be cool.
And why not, ya know? We have two chainsaw cannibals in the game and 2-4 aliens (depending on what Unknown really is and if you count Hux). And we have two ghosts, with Spirit & Sadako. So maybe we could have room for two pirates.
The fog took Molak in Portia’s lore, so I think it would be cool if one day we got him as a killer and finally get the pirate/ship/sea map I’ve always wanted. Running around a big pirate ship would be so cool! And having a killer that directly connects to another, like Spirit & Oni, would also be cool.
@ I agree I think Molak would be an awesome killer but I don’t think they’ll do anything with him. Jordan was a character we thought we’d get as a survivor and all he did was show up in Tauries lore randomly. Benedict and Vigo were thought to come some day and instead just disappeared
@@bababouille9707True, but I really do think we’ll get Jordan one day and maybe Julien. Maybe as skins for other characters? Though I hope as their own. I’m not sure about Vigo or Benedict, though I hope so.
I think the problem is that BHVR have really slowed down the number of original chapters. We get like one a year now. Which sucks, because I get way more excited for them. I think if they were still alternating between original and licensed, then we already would have Jordan & maybe Julien. Oh, well. Maybe some day.
If they do ever add Molak, it would be cool if they added voicelines for them in 2v8. lol. Like if they end up paired together in that mode. If I was playing her and got paired with a Molak, I’d just have to chase him the whole match. :)
We’re getting Oni next 2v8, so at least we’ll have those two connected killers, which is cool.
@@NicxCoay I like the original chapters a lot as well, some of the licensed content is phenomenal but it kinda leaves a dead end for lore with those. I wish they acted more like permanent important characters rather than, hey Michael is here too while all these characters have huge lore implications.
As for 2v8, Oni would be so cool imagine how much BLOOD is gonna be on the map with 8 injured survivors
The people that want Houndmaster to get nerfed really hate any killer that has power, she is not overpowered, you can dodge the dog most of the times and the dog itself is still buggy, survivors actually need to start to get better bc its crazy how they give up so easily in matches.
Yeah, I don’t get it. I think she’s fun to face. I really like killers where you have to dodge a rush attack, like her or Billy or Blight. They are some of my favorite to face. I hate when my teammates just give up on hook. At least DC so we can have a body doing gens!
I was watching the gameplay of this video and was like.
Do survivors just not try to dodge the dog??? Cupcake is getting sent half-map and players are just running in a straight line lol
Why would they get better when they know crying will bring things down to their level instead?
@@atlasgraham154I play both sides and I feel like killer perks and killers get nerfed way too much, survivors need to get some of there stuff nerfed to make it more fair
Let's all ignore that the dog is crazy fast, there's no decent indication of the dog being sent, AND all latency operates in favor of the killer since hits are registered on killer client (this has been objectively observed and confirmed by BHVR, don't try to argue it). Oh yeah, and since there's essentially no cool down and the killer can move at normal 115 while the dog charges, there's effectively no upside to dodging anyways. That makes it a good bit rougher than people would think.
Y'all are just on the other end of the extreme where if your killer main doesn't 4k trounce every team, they're not powerful enough. There is a happy middle, but it's not this and it's not the extreme that some others demand.
Technically, a truly "fair" killer would 2k every game and tie outside of skill gaps, but I'm POSITIVE y'all don't think the same. Y'all really can't expect to have constructive conversations when your counter argument is always "skill issue", as that can be abused both on the killer and survivor end of the spectrum. People could argue that the issues with Houndmaster before were just skill issues..they'd be absurdly wrong, but it's a simple argument that requires no explanation or backing. What I'm trying to get at is: "dodge better" is not a solution to a practically non existent cool down with a power that can traverse pallets and close distance at an unprecedented rate.
They need to nerf the cooldown of her chase back to 5 seconds, buff her rope addon to like, 5%, and then nerf the vault speed a tiny bit. They should do it so if you send Snug to vault at the perfect time (assuming he doesn’t damage) you still grab them but if you don’t time it good enough the vault is fast enough for you to redirect quickly.
My favorite killer to play in a long time, even when she was bugged. The buff was mad, but i couldnt put my finger on why. I think you nailed it. Dont want her to destroyed though, i love playing her too much
the dog shouldn't be be able to down people who are midvault. they should be put into deepwounds like deathslinger when he shoots someone over a pallet
but even so i just think it looks weird with how fast the dog vaults, its so fast it looks like he teleports 🤣
Lemme break it down in dbd terms:You could master me like that dog ❤❤.
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@@MintSkull bro 😭😭. U my favourite 😍
Girl bye
Simp 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Glazing😂😂😂
She is kinda fun to play against, but there is a bug right now in which she will sometimes not whistle before sending the dog out in chase, if that issue was fixed I think she is perfect
Don’t worry, they’ll nerf her again once the DLC sales start decreasing/in time for the next DLC…
I disagree with people saying she has "no counterplay" with the dog vault speed, survivors can fake the pallet drop/vault to make her miss or force her to cancel it. Her counterplay is blocking line of sight like a bunch of ranged killers in this game.
Yeah, if you don’t drop the pallet, Houndmaster has to mind game it or Snug gets stunned (Which if I’m not going crazy actually has a noticeably longer cooldown).
People just gon complain bro lol happens with every killer smh even chucky
Hound main here, i think the vault speed is still a bit strong, just nerf it a bit and it should be good
it's 0.45s & forcing 50/50s constantly doesn't promote skill gain
thats also only one example what do u do after.. the same thing over and over
14:06 Idea: Missed Snug grabs give you the 4 second cooldown, while hit Snug grabs give you a 5 second cooldown. It would make her a little less oppressive while still letting her stay in the higher tiers
I always thought she was worth to buy, cause her teachables were interesting.
We got:
-Coup the grace 2, electric boogalo
-I like scourge hooks, how did you know ?
-Merciless storm, but for self care.
You forget her biggest weakness… a weakness that the pig and dracula also have. This weakness can turn a 4k game into a 0k if the survivors abuse it…… If they boop the snoot they can live!❤❤❤
We've had killers like Nurse, Chucky's Scamper and Vecna pre-patch who completely invalidate pallets with their powers, which players ABSOLUTELY DISLIKE and their idea for Houndpirate is to just...let her do that same bullshit too? Huh???
how do you counter the dog if you don’t have a pallet to stun it?
The clickbait situation is crazy
And then she was killswitched lol. Portia is punching air right now
Wesker with 1/3 cooldown, longer distance on bounds, can bound after vaulting with no speed penalty, can vault faster than wesker, does not have to wait for survivors to finish vaulting to vault after them, has stronger addons than wesker, has probably better map mobility than wesker, a built in hug tech, with the bound path displayed for the killer, missing is nowhere near as punishing, has a bug that removes the sound queue for the bound, the list goes on . Wesker has some decent slowdown that she doesnt. Seems totally balanced to me.
Oh yeah and her dogs hitbox is more than double the width of weskers.
At first she was very random to me, especially due to the shadow drop, but right now I like her as a killer and I love her perks
How come my survivors dodge every attack and correcly throw every pallet at the poor dog? I mean, I can't be that high MMR. She feels strong in a few situations but saying she's busted or OP is wrong imo, she's just a mid-high tier killer (definately lower than huntress or blight). Also, the dog gets stuck on walls and stairs, often meaning i've got no power, that should be the thing that gets changed before even talking about a nerf.
Also, search mode objects targetting is still terrible.
Its obvious they want to incentivize using her power a lot I hope they incorporate something similar to knight where the dog comes back a bit slower with attacks but the search feature stays at a shorter cooldown
No she’s not overbuffed just scale back her vault speed 0.3 and fix the bugs she still has with the dogs pathing and she’ll be a decent B+ tier killer
I think the dog vault can be 0.6 and not 0.9 again i think the problem is that the dog vaults faster than a survivor and that is kind of strange
I live for this guy saying 'opinion'
honestly im reminded of manual scamper chucky when it comes to this
I GOT HER WITH SHARDES
Grinding to do the same! 4K of 9K so far
Shes actually balanced now, and yet they (SWFS) will cry.
She still needs major QOL improvements though
Killer mains refuse to admit when a killer is unfun to play against lmfao
@@colbyking5423 lmfao is so funny whining about houndmaster when I juke her 99% of the time in matches
@colbyking5423 she is fun to play against, lol, but you probably don't know how to have fun
@@cjames9320 I have so much fun having a killer immediately be able to use their power after just gaining a hit with said power that has virtually no downsides. Imagine if Huntress had no slowdown or hatchet wind up time and was able to immediately land another hatchet after just throwing one. That is what the Houndmaster is rn. Nerf her cd by 2 seconds and nerf dog vault by .3 and she will be fun to actually play against.
@colbyking5423 tell me you've never played against Houndmaster without telling me you've never played against Houndmaster
Dracula is a vampire and turns into a werewolf and isnt as fast as that dog.The animations are extremely buggy looking and immersion breaking. She is ridiculously overbuffed and needs more counterplay.
I think houndmaster is okay, it’ll just take some time for people to get used to her. They can consider kicking the vault speed down just a little (0.45 -> 0.6) but other than that she’s fine I think she just about levels with huntress or a little higher which is fine.
Edit: also if nurse ain’t getting nerfed to be fair then I don’t think houndmaster should get nerfed very much at all.
I think the issue with how she is currently is using her power effectively guarantees a hit even when you miss. Ie. Slinger you experience slowdown (and 110), Vecna the same although a little less, huntress the same (and 110), etc etc. With her power, you can just chuck it willy nilly and if it misses, redirect OR dont bother because you can 115 walk around the other side while theyre forced to dodge the dog and just smack them. THAT'S why people complain theres minimal to no counterplay.
As Minty mentioned, theres zero downside to spamming her power with the absurd cooldown and it allows for a crazy type of zoning that literally no other killer can achieve at the same level. This turns every chase into spam dog chases and absurdly quick downs with the survivor really not being able to do anything about it because theres zero time to make distance and youre constantly being zoned. Plus her power serves as anti-loop, so good loops aren't even really safe. It literally takes away EVERY mechanic built for survivors to extend chase. Mind you, all of these things are easily observable with baby Houndmasters..just wait until people actually get good with her 😅
I'm all for a strong killer, but that doesn't mean that there's ZERO drawbacks to just spamming your power around. That makes for a super low skill ceiling and a horrible time for anyone versing the killer.
Can't believe you didn't end the video with "That's about it, See ya." 😔
Would've been peak
People saying she is not overpowered should try to just play 3 matches of solo q and experience the pain of going down in 5 seconds because if you drop the pallet: yoi're dead, if you don't, you're dead, if you try to dodge, dw, you're also dead.
She is good when she works now, the issue is that she is still filled with bugs. I'd rather have a slightly scaled back killer and a bug free experience.
Fake the room isn't a bareen wasteland after being cleared out
She’ll be nerfed early next year I bet, the complaints always win.
Sadly, yeah
She must not be that popular I haven't seen anyone use her same goes for the Lich and Dracula everyone says they're popular Killers yet I haven't seen anybody play them
Pretty sure vault speed is waaay faster than 0.45 and bugged.
Example look at the first vault in the video on ormand and then the second one on lerys. the one on lerys is way faster…idk what it is but its very inconsistent.
The sound bug also applies to chucky. If he is talking during his charge up you won’t here him do his wind up yell and only here him yelling during his slice and dice. It’s so annoying and im surprised they haven’t fixed it yet.
If the only counter to a characters power is to hope they make a mistake it’s a poorly designed power.
Nurse basically
why play Huntrees or any ranged killer at this point.
We need more PVZ2 music. When i heard it i felt like i traveled back 10 years
The (insert trending topic) situation is crazy is crazy
They also gave her proper facial animations during the match, mori, and lobby like Chucky launched with. (And Chucky's facial rigging has been disabled/bugged for months now.)
You and spookyloopz? Dang
That is purely a coincidence! This thumbnail idea was given from my friends and I decided to go with it, they do not watch DbD content!
dbd players will never admit when anything is overtuned as long as it destroys the other side
I was afraid with all of her bugs and the map not being with the chapter release date we were gonna see a botched overall released killer such as the tools of torment chapter.
So I'm glad they were least quick with the changes
Chucky on the other hand got nerft into unplayability 😔
over 10k here there is nothing skillful about this killer.
The thumbnail was hilarious.
Excellent work, Mint
Shes fine the way she is now, survivors just need to learn that when she whistles at a palate - you wait for the dog to grab you THEN you drop the palate. If you pre throw you just lose now.
Her cool down needs fixing. Everyone is already noticing this. It's too forgiving
That type of killer also depend on the experience, to me we need some time to see how it does after people start to get used to her new strength (like wesker). Then we will get the full picture, to see if she is too strong or just very good
More DBD videos need a title and thumbnail like this
Does anyone else hear plants vs zombies music
That PvZ2 music hit me like a fucking truck, holy
The PVZ Saga is PEAK
I was thinking about the houndmaster's ability to see dog's line of dash. The older still killlers dont have this ability basekit or need special add-on, which in my opinion, is very outdated, however, even most recent killers like Dracula can't do it too. Just why, Behavior?
Are you talking about his flame pillars or when he's in wolf form?
@creativeartstudios6792 i thought about the flames, but the point is that some killers HAVE options to show their power's travel point locked behind add-ons, and that just strange how it's still not basekit
@badguy3602 I think hound master has because the dog could be on any side of her at any point. The other killers the ranged attack always is launched from the same direction. If that makes sense.
People only liked going against her because she was weak. They like practically free wins and trying a minimal bit.
This. So much. They'll spin it adound to pretend it's untrue, but really if the killer is reliably good they just hate it, even though 60% is the ragio bhvr aims for, and it also factors in dcs, which happen every other match....it's almost like whoever is first downed will dc 50% of the time
@@magical571this makes no sense blight is one of the strongest killers in the game and is liked by majority of the player base it’s okay to admit bhvr went slightly overboard on these buffs like a killer being strong does not mean there boring trapper is weak but many players find him boring wesker is strong and regarded as a very fun killer to vs the Us vs them arguments are actually insane also dcs don’t affect kill rates they’ve literally stated this on forums and in reddit qna’s
They don't like free wins. They still dc against skull merchant.
@christianftt3136 I've not heard any survivor say I like going against blight at all, but they love to see a bubba because most of the time he's trash and easily loopable
Biggest thing i don't understand why they made entire new killer inster reworking twins in same way? Change dog model with Victor model andd houndmaster with Sharlot and we have a great rework
Snug currently moves at 40-50 mps, 1000-1250% move speed. If the houndmaster changes stay as they are but Snug moves at 10mps, 250%, closer to reality, i think it would be okay
The forever speed boost houndmaster bug is insane
Lol labor of love bhvr
First Spooky and now Minty???
The DBD creators are on a Charlie high we have to stage an intervention it’s not ok
"Yeah, and that's about it. Cya"
The real problem in my opinion is that survs don't want to learn new ways to loop, I play her new version and is not even that strong, even if she ends up as a A or even S tier killer, is not broken or anything.
Survivors always complain when strong killers release because they yet not know how to counter their mechanics.
Also the dog still bugs a lot, so this is just compensating all the chases you lose due to the dog getting stuck somewhere else.
Since everyone and their mom is playing her right now I had quite a few matches against her
And my biggest complaint is that there is just not enough risk to her power and no reward if you dodge it
She has it back almost immediatly and no slowdown, so most of the time I dodge the dog Im in a position where she can just get a normal m1 anyway
And it is actually sad because I did love playing against her before the buff when dodging actually made a difference
Huntress takes 0.9 seconds to ready a hatchet to almost-instantly injure a survivor over a pallet
Houndmaster takes 1.0 second to get Snug attached to the survivors, which another survivor can help them with
I don't think the fact Snug jumps over pallets so fast is a bad thing
Maybe slow it a little bit, but it should definitely be less than it was on release
It's funny how mintskull compares the Houndmaster with hountress and slinger.
If you see her chase attack as Weskers dash, its almost the same. No real penalty if you missed it, the hug tech is as busted as the dash.
Both do not need to completely stop when using your power.
We needed a new Wesker, why not give her a pass like him? 🤔
Meh....she ok....
-Sick
Perfect nerf suggestions nothing major just small minor tweaks to not give her free two taps and free hits at vaults hopefully they don’t overnerf, I didn’t realize the no whistle audio was also present on the survivor side I thought it was just bugged from the killers POV
Houndmaster counter: Stop holding W, actually look behind you in chase, zig-zag, and hug loops. That said, Mint Skull is right; she just needs some tweaks on her cooldown and her vault speed -- but, because the complainers are the ones BHVR listens too, she's probably going to get the Chucky/Skull Merchant/Pig/Freddy treatment and become a meme killer.
I mean, it’s technically accurate. What survivor will be able to outrun a dog?
Alucard.
@ He can’t even outrun a teenager with a knife
She’s fantastic. Very good character now, I will say that her chase cooldown feels a little fast if you grab > hit > follow up, but then when you miss the first try, the cooldown is between 5 and 10 seconds because the dog has to catch up. It feels like they’re rewarding the wrong part of her.
Overall I’m very happy with her now, she’s very fun to play and also fun to play against. Good and interactive counterplay while having strong anti loop. Would’ve been a slam dunk if she initially shipped like thi
Idea: in order to make missing cost resources, have her need to go to lockers to get treats, allowing you to use snug again after x uses
The main thing is would say is the issue before even watching this is that her vault speed for her dog was way overtuned every other change I think is fine even the hitbox change because sometimes u would throw the dog and it would go through ppl
What happened to survivors figurine out how to counter a killer, yall needa stop bitching and actually learn to counter a killers power
A dog should vault faster than a human. Come on, think about it. Increase the cooldown instead, I think its bugged anyway. It seems to cool down while the survivor is in a grab, so you can do it immediately after hitting them, and thats when you can't hear the whistle too. If you had to actually wait 3-4 sec, it would give the survivor a few secs after the wipe animation to get distance, but thats it, no vault speed nerfs. Alien, Nemesis, Unknown, Huntress, Deathslinger, Wesker, low pro Billy etc, can all hit a bad survivor at a pallet if they don't fake and vacuum the pallet properly. We nerfing all them too? If they nerf all the new killers to be weaker than the A teirs, nobody will play them, so you'll just face only A teirs anyway. You guys want to only play Weskers, Nurses, and Blights? Sounds boring to me. Mabee let sone new killers take the spotlight, and learn to beat them.
THANK YOU. I seen 0 people point out the mind games with HM and just say "SHE WEAK. NOT NURSE LEVEL KILLER". And it gets kind of repetitive as someone who decided to main her because she feels like she has a lot of skill play unlike other single power or repetative killers.
She still feels very clunky to play as, I really dislike the slowdown she applies on herself while readying or recovering from a command. The dog also still has some issues/bugs, some of those are caused by the roaming snowmen from the current event. I've yet to make her work, all I get are 0-1Ks from people completing gens far too fast. The biggest nuisance is how long it takes to point at a generator for the dog to draw a path to due to how inaccurate the system is. You easily lose 2-3 seconds on attempts.
I feel that she (like Chucky at launch) doesn't pay enough for all the advantages she gets.
Either her power is easy to use, but weak(er) or it's hard to use but strong.
Her power is braindead easy to use, guaranteeing hits, and she doesn't really pay ANYTHING for it. Missed? Just wait a couple seconds, with no slowdown at all.
what is the background music??? it feels very nostalgic
I want chihuahua skin.
Complete with the yappy little barks for that skin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'd literally get hooked every time cuz of laughing to much to play properly hahaha
Switzerland mistcritical is crazy
If you're dumb and predrop against her sure she's OP and gives her a free hit. The same thing can happen with huntress and hell even old skull merchant laser tag. That's a you problem not the killer.
I've been playing ttf out of her, she plays like a pinhead x huntress hybrid now. I think the cooldown can go back to 4s. The slower cooldown can balance out if she misses.
But the vault speed needs to stay or at least more in line to the Huntresss hatchets. Perhaps an in between.
You probably make the best thumbnails in the whole dbd community.
A few of them have become inside jokes with my friends.
I agree I hate this new killer the map meh just the worst ever added and I'm going here skill merchant is better by far
She just needed the flees removed from Snug and she would be just fine. But BHVR decided to give Snug a hoverboard. Which is nice and cool but not really fair to the rest of the bunch.
She looks very unfun to play against currently. Behaviour overcompensated with the buffs and are most likely to overcompensate with nerfs after this.
Cry about it
She is so weak wtf why survivors always complain🤡
Get good
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA
She’s objectively better than the knight in one sense her dog gives you exactly what you need a slow a lot of survivors got speed boosts and that makes it a lot easier
The game really badly needs to skip a chapter and do a game health update
You realize this is a bad idea right ? DBD community has a temper tantrum if no content. And most health updates go bad like Seige
@VladDracula_Tepes well what else is there left? They obviously cant keep up with the new content theyre pumping out and their attempt at making other big games (casting of frank stone and project T which is canned) have resulted in significant damage to their financial state. Obviously the dense fans and the investors, that want profit right at that moment and not later down the line, wouldn't be happy and the alternative would be to let the game rot. They have unironically dug themselves into a hole. The only financial saving grace, besides a health update, would be some big dlc/show for darkest dungeon 2 (Behavour did acquire Red Hook Studios and I assume they're acting as some sort of publisher for RH) or a hail mary of a licensed chapter like jason or anytging else in that ball park
And obviously they cant skip any planned licensed chapters as that would create a sour taste with any license holder. So with the rumours of the next 3 chapters being licensed they would only manage a health update by the summer of 2026 because theres no way theyre gonna skip on content during october december and anniversary events
@Slugster_ if they skipped a licence, they would have lost TONS of money for nothing