there was an INSANE amount of heart and care put into the 3ds eshop, and when you look at the switch's eshop it's just....sad. it looks like a generic chain store's half-assed website. there's no seasonal graphic design changes for thinks like Christmas and Halloween, there's no music for no reason, the filters are extremely basic and the genres included in said filter are too generic, the ui is really annoying to navigate....god. Jesus, it sucks
@@darinherrick9224i can tell you now, the wii shop channel, 3DS and Wii U eshop were way faster than the switch eshop. What made the wii shop channel feel slow is that you had to sit on the download screen, no background downloads. The wii u and 3ds were like that for a little bit but got updated
UA-cam also has a worse search engine it has ever had. Despite millions of videos being uploaded all searches give back between 10 and 20 results and then just go back to your main feed.
Really felt that, it's why I don't use google, but I can't avoid that on UA-cam. Makes it difficult to find videos from a decade ago, even from big companies, like LEGO.
ARGH this drives me nuts. You can't search for any more than a few results pertinent to your search it's like its trying to fence you in based on your own interests
I find this with searching for new shark videos. It's the same recycled video content over and over again. I'd like to see the more obscure shark sighting videos people have uploaded, even if it's a flash of fin or nothing groundbreaking.
This isn't an on-off switch, it's a slider. There's a huge gap between quality control that prevents someone from dumping a new AI generated visual novel on the storefront or new bundle for the same asset flip every day and whatever you're thinking of.
@@RhythmGrizzI think he means he just wants better quality control for the eshop, not necessarily for Nintendo to be “stricter”. It’s probably due to all the AI generated art games. It would be nice to have a filter option or something.
Thank you for covering this. The eShop has been nigh unusable for far too long now. I don't even bother scrolling through it now and then anymore like I used to since it's just the same copy paste stuff over and over again anyway.
Nintendo should split the shop into categories: 1. Nintendo games (Super Mario Odyssey, Tears of the Kingdom, Pikmin 4) 2. Third-party AAA games (Call of Duty, Mortal Kombat, Sonic Generations) 3. Verified indie games (Hades, Hollow Knight, Ori) 4. Amateur games/slop (Boobie Hentai Farm Manager 9000) Having selectable tabs like this would make the world of difference.
The only issue is, what is a "verified indie game"? There are some indie gems especially if you are into local multiplayer, that no one will discover because they don't make it to the verified option.
Where do things like retro compilations like the Sunsoft is Back set of three Famicom games from a few months back go? Sunsoft isn't indie but it CERTAINLY isn't triple A and a bunch of Famicom games from 1985 are certainly not indie games. For that matter, EGGCONSOLE's line of MSX and other Japanese PC games from the 1980s. Those are definitely not indie and many are from still big-ish companies like Nihon Falcom but an MSX-2 version of Ys 2 is going to be a hard sell for an AAA category. I buy a ton of retro games from the 1980s and 1990s on Switch and I just don't see a category for them on your list.
All that did was assure the customer that the product was official, and not some unlicensed game/accessory. If these developers wanted to, they could probably make physical versions of some of this slop and they would be official products for the Switch.
They replaced pages in favor of a single infinite scrolling page, which I think is a mistake. The user experience was so much better on previous eShops
@@vincenzomottola7778 My Joycon drifts left meaning I can scroll down a bit before it gets forcibly reset by my defective controller. I literally cannot browse the eShop on the Switch itself.
So about all those store simulator games: it's a unity template sold by a third party and is effectively "feature complete". An offshoot of that focused around Trading cards took off on steam, which is why the other default for the store simulator in TCG stores. That's why they all have the same ganeplay, controls, mechanics, etc., it's the asset flip of 2024
Idk about you Jon, but Hentai Girls: College Romance is definitely my GOTY. It definitely blows FF7 Rebirth, Astro Bot and Metaphor ReFantazio out of the water, no cap whatsoever.
I've gotten into the habit of buying my eShop games off Nintendo's website instead. It'll still automatically start downloading on my Switch as long as I'm connected to wifi regardless of if I'm using my Switch at the time.
When they started offering digital stuff in the Wii/DS era, I feel like their barrier of entry was low because they were trying to course correct from the previous years when they made third party devs wary of making games...but that over compensations lead to the digital wasteland of today
@@obba40 I’d at least expect them to recognize how shitty it is from a quick look, especially since they ADVERTISE them in the "new games" news on the Switch’s news section
By this point, going on the eshop just to browse is impossible. You essentially have to have a general idea of what you want to search for to get anywhere, which takes away the charm of casually logging in to see if there's any interesting new releases you weren't aware of. I really expected better of Nintendo. For all their faults, they usually have had pretty high standards for what they allow on their digital storefronts. This is worse than the Wii's shovelware problem by a wide margin (granted, at least there aren't mountains of plastic garbage that nobody asked for lying around this time around).
Disagree with the shovelware issue, because those were actually physical discs. Absolute waste of resources they were. At least this is just an annoying bit to scroll past. Also, who the hell browses anymore? This ain't the 1950s, nobody's got time for that... Especially not when thousands of companies are vying for every second of your attention and cent you have.
@@shelbyherring92 I absoluely agree about the lack of plastic waste involved with the process (I assume my quick edit took longer than I thought to process), I were talking purely on a basis of numbers of genuine games against nonsense/scam software, as that makes even just the routine updates a pain to sift through. Honestly, I'm an old fogey in my early 30s who don't really keep up with the newest and greatest, especially not when it comes to smaller titles that would've flown under the radar to begin with, so I kind of preferred when I could boot the shop up and take a quick glance to see if there was anything that seemed interesting during the month, especially if it was something lesser known. Still, I get that this situation is a win in the long-term for the world and that the way my generation used to absorb information just isn't the intended way to do things anymore. It still kind of stings since the Switch were advertised as a indies-friendly platform (which were a good 7 years ago... Geez, I really am getting old).
@HenshinFanatic Not really because there were alot of games that would have came over but devs that got rejected talked about and the devs with the better games didn't put it on Wii U out of principle. Nintendo doesn't have leverage like that anymore.
Nintendo in the 90s: "Well Sega is getting more sales on Mortal Kombat for having blood, we'll let our port of Mortal Kombat II to have it then" Nintendo in 2020s: "We'll get more sales on our console if we allow booba games in the eShop"
Unfortunately my kids have fallen into the trap of thinking every single Minecraft clone is worth their time. Any time they get gift cards for holidays or birthdays they insist on throwing them at these ripoffs. They have access to all the greatest games on the console, but they choose to go for rip offs and cash grabs even when I recommend other good games to them.
maybe it could benefit from a star rating system just like the Wii U had. Another feature they could add is a is a way to filter out anything you don't want to see, like blocking out certain publishers from your view and the last thing they can do is actually make the discovery tab, a discovery tab.
Nintendo (along with Playstation and Xbox actually) should add a feature that allows you to "mute" certain games Im not interested in from showing up in your browsing and search list and you dont have to sift through the same garbage over and over again. Like if I want to find a good game thats on sale I want to mute all the shovelware and ai slop thats on sale so it makes finding the good games easier.
Steam pretty much has this, you can have it filter out games with certain tags and individual games you set to ignore. The only problem is that the tags are user-defined on Steam so you occasionally have stuff that gets tagged incorrectly like "sexual content" on a game that doesn't have anything like that just because some people thought it would be funny to tag it with that
Yet another reason why physical needs to stay. It doesn't matter if all future consoles are fully backwards compatible, you'll still be dependent on an eShop that may or may not work properly if digital is the only option.
In a time where the 1.0 physical version will be the most basic version of a game i do not see how that phsical version will be played and enjoyed, once the digital shops close down and you can't access any of the DLC or content patches anymore. Then you're just stuck with a very basic and inferior version of a game. Edit: typo
They really need to revamp and fix the eshop. Not just the loading but the ui, the sorting the filteting. I want just rpgs one section and one for retro, one arcades, one new retro games etc.
I don't know if the solution is to prevent access from developers to release their junk, it's the price we're paying so small developers can publish their games on the Switch more easily. The problem is its how the search query leaves the legitimately good games buried in shovelware. What eShop needs (besides better UX/UI) is a more nuanced algorithm that puts the most searched/liked/reviewed/whatever games on top, and bury the shovelware down.
They really need a review feature. I know user reviews are a bit contentious these days, but they could easily solve the review bombing problem by ensuring only people who have bought & played the game for a set amount of time can review it. Then (hopefully) the slop will get low reviews and be pushed to the bottom.
@Aqua-ij3xs I can see why they don't have a review feature, review bombing is a problem they'd rather not have. But maybe see how engaged people are with the games, they have everyone's game log for starters.
I agree with this. I don't think that restricting content in the name of quality control is the best solution here, but prioritizing (presumably) higher-quality content using an improved algorithm would help filter out the shovelware. Unfortunately, depending on the execution, some stinkers may get through (children often enjoy games that, from an adult perspective, are quite bad, both in the past and in the present; just look at many of the Ubisoft Petz games, barring the original Petz 5), but it'd likely be an improvement regardless.
Removing the star rating system out of the switch eshop that was there at launch was one of the worse things Nintendo did to the store. Not having a eshop jingle of course, is also a horrible offender.
So like anyone can just upload any game on the eshop?? The same thing happened to the 3ds eshop, how is there so many trash looking generic mobile games getting approved?
Vroom in the Night Sky is a million times better than the games showcased in this video. It really shouldn't be hard for Nintendo to not allow AI slop while still allowing merely bad games like Vroom in the Night Sky.
They really need a rating system too. And reviews. I feel like they should do it like they did back with nes and say which games should be on their platform. It's starting to look like steam instead of an eshop.
We are not allowed to have an impact on anything these days or voice our opinion about anything as consumers. Otherwise people would know what's good and what's bad and that simply won't do for these greedy companies pumping out this copy-paste AI generated trash and more.
The fact that I also noticed this for Supermarket Simulator but just wrote it off as "yeah, of course that's on the eshop" is even worse. Practices like this are mostly normalized.
The Switch eShop is basically the new Steam Store. I was shocked when I saw believe visual novels like Nekopara and BlackBerry Honey there (granted they’re the censored versions with none of the 18+ content) which is all fine, I have no issues with that. But then I saw all the “hentAI” garbage and realized it’s even worse than the steam store.
At least Nekopara is a legitimate product. You may not like it, but it's not complete shovelware. Stuff like what's in the thumbnail for this video on the other hand...
The amount of AI slop, name rip-offs, copy/paste "deluxe ultimate pro" versions of the same game, and asset flips have gotten very absurd in the last few years. I generally just look through the much shorter coming soon page. Less cluttered with slop (still exists, though) and I have a higher likelihood of seeing something I wasn't aware of that interests me (ie: an old game re-release or an indie title in general). I'll sometimes look through the recent releases just for fun, but I almost never check the current offers though. I can't remember the last time when the current offers wasn't 90% junk.
The fact that I didn’t know Grapple Dogs existed until I found this video says everything about the eshop. But now I want to look into it. What the Eshop needs is an algorithm system. Something that recommends games to you based on your purchasing history
It’s one thing for the ai thumbnails on so many products, and even more so when the “gameplay” pictures also use the ai pictures. But I really hate how there are games that use a similar name to other ones to try and trick people into buying them. That “Little Strays” game came out a day before the actual Stray game out
It’s the Asylum of video-games; those AI-generated thumbnail copycat games make me feel like a grandma almost mistaking Transformers for Transmorphers.
I am happy that they aren't as strict on digital releases like they were back in the day, I remember Binding of Isaac being such a high profile launch on the Wii U/3DS because that was speculated as a "never gonna happen" for forever. But yeah, as it is now it's too easy for slop to game the system and clog up the eshop.
The TCG Card simulator is a ripoff from TCG Card Shop Simulator on Steam. It seems it even reuses assets. The green lines are stink that you can clear by using air fresheners or air freshener machines. So yeah it's a clone of an actually good game on Early Access on Steam
i mean at least on the wii you had to go to a store to find slop, but now that the slop is exponentially worse they’re letting it directly onto their storefront. they need to just add someone to their store management who can spot garbage and say no to it.
that, and for the most part you at least needed to get someone to print discs for you. now that manufacturing has been cut out of the equation so many more numbskulls get to run wild on the platform.
I miss how on wii u they had more categories and discoverability with stuff like "games for you" as well as a built in review system with star ratings. the eshop definitely felt like just a thing slapped together because they needed a digital store and was never intended to stay this way, but then they just never really added much to make it any better.
Simplest solution: Raise the price of listing a game on the eShop so that a game requires far more sales in order to break even than it currently does. Most of the garbage on the shop probably sells very few copies, so if a developer had to pay a substantial fee, he wouldn't list fifty variants of "Ultimate Extreme Deluxe Clock". The payment structure could be set up in such a way that the listing fee is essentially an advance on Nintendo's take of the sales. I.e. to compensate the developer for paying the listing fee, Nintendo would reduce its cut until the sales reached a certain level. That way, legitimate developers could get the listing fee back, but the fee would still serve to keep out the junk.
Most of the Switch games I buy are physical, so I rarely look at the eShop. There is more quality control with a physical releases typically, it’s interesting to see the barrier of entry so low for digital content now.
If I remember correctly, a few years ago there was supposed to be some game that was going to be released on the Switch’s eShop called “Don’t Get Caught”, where you try not to get caught choking your chicken. It never got released because Nintendo blocked the developers from releasing it due to backlash. If only something like that could happen again.
I remember when we were celebrating Sonic Mania as the Switch's 100th game. It was a HUGE milestone after the Wii U'S failure and when the Switch's succeess wasn't guaranteed. Now it's getting 50 games every singe day lol
It’s modern day shovel ware, but unlike the Wii days it’s not on store shelves, so most don’t pay it any mind. Nintendo (and every other digital platform holder) gets a percentage of those sales, so don’t expect it to improve.
Yea it’s gotten to the point that I wont even open the eShop anymore, Im back to buying all my games physically (which admittedly I should have been doing anyway)
The Wii, 3DS, and Wii U shops were NOT quick. Wii was fairly slow and could only load a few games on screen at once, and it took a surprisingly long amount of time to download even NES games. The Wii U took so long to boot up that they gave you a minigame. Let's not let nostalgia cloud reality here. The music was great though.
@@SuperFirstSecond I guess I meant more in comparison to the Switch's Eshop, being so dreadfully slow and unresponsive. I do feel like the 3DS shop was pretty decent with loading, though, but you're right nostalgia definitly clouds things!
It feels like Nintendo has just left to eshop to die this generation. Sure there was slop on previous iterations before, but it was never THIS bad and THIS level of slop
5:27 I feel like the games given bigger priority on the "On Sale" section are based on how many copies they've sold since they went on sale. If that is the case, then I guess those slop games must sell a fair bit if they're that high up on it, whether it be from people wanting to buy it for a laugh with friends and never touch it again, or kids thinking it's the actual popular simulation games that are on PC. (Ironically enough, there actually WAS a good shop simulator glimpsed at in the video: Moonlighter. It's on sale like the rest, but it's just buried under the slop.) Either way, it sucks that Nintendo has barely any regulation on what goes into the eShop anymore...
It would not surprise me. I can totally see a kid going "Wow a game for 50 cents, that's awesome!" And buying some garbage game without using a single ounce of brain power.
Worst part is that all of these problems are probably still going to be a thing on the next console. (Suthorn village theme from Echoes of Wisdom, what a banger ❤)
I thought my game had a good chance because the surrounding game thumbnails looked a bit crap, so I figured we'd stand out really well among them. But then Plucky Squire dropped a couple days before we did, and kind of swallowed up all the switch news for the week. And I get it. It's a really fun game. But I think I got my hopes up just based on the rubbish adjacent to our thumbnail.
It's embarrassing, how Nintendo just let's their shop being a landfill. It's laggy af to the point that I don't even go there anymore, can't find shit in it and the further you go worse of a experience you'll have.
At this point, it might be feasible to sell me on the Switch Successor even if the only difference is a usable eshop. Same hardware as before, that's why it's backwards compatible, but it's technically a new console, so they can enforce new rules on the eshop successor.
It’s so full of junk that I just don’t bother going in there anymore. A shame because I used to like scrolling through and finding some gem maybe no one had played, but now it’s difficult and feels like I’ll probably just get scammed.
It genuinely baffles me how bad the eShop is. Nintendo is losing ungodly amounts of money just because nobody wants to use the thing, and for some reason don’t want to fix it??
I buy frequently from the eshop and I have to curate every purchase I make cause of the possibility of AI slop occurring, I try to watch a trailer or something before committing
It's the worst kind of shovel ware. It's like Nintendo has no filter and quality for what games can go up for sale. Best thing you can do is add the game that you're interested in buying to your favorite. Cause it will get buried under garbage.
This is crazy. Because of the unhinged shovel-ware problem and the straight up grifting they did with Pokemon Scarlet and Violet and Tears of The Kingdom I am no longer a Nintendo fan. I won't be purchasing any more of their consoles, that's for sure.
My bittersweet example is “One Night Burlesque”. It’s caught my eye and went ahead when it was on sale for under $2. Figured I’d try it sooner or later. Then it kept popping up as deluxe this and complete that…it soured my desire to boot up the game.
Eshop is awful these days but all of the other platforms aren’t much better. Trying to browse for hidden gems just isn’t viable anymore. It’s not gonna happen but every online shop should up quality control and crack down on the asset flip/AI slop and clean things up so it isn’t unusably slow.
Thankfully, we have channels like yours that highlight those hidden independent gems. I downloaded my 10year old son Portal 1 & 2 for £3ish....he loves them!
99% of the asset flip games are real bad. But TCG Card Shop Simulator was being ripped off there towards the end. On Steam, TCG Card Shop Simulator, is Overwhelmingly Positive and it's a fun basic sim game. I played it a few hours. The smelling is just saying you should order deodorant for those types of people that don't shower before going out. Or can set up a machine to spray when someone smelly walks past.
Why I'm not surprised..? Some people don't care whether it's a good game or not, they just puchase to have it. Unfortunately, this increases sloppy AI games on the eshop.
The Switch eShop is just sad but worse than that it's a hard to navigate mess full of shovel-ist of wares with asset AI generated garbage and asset flips. I don't want Nintendo to censor like Sony does but I also don't want the eShop to an unkempt mess. Really feels like they don't care at all that trying to find a game without searching the title is an awful experience.
Look there are things I’m fine with: Releasing mobile games with no ads, odd but ok (long as it ain’t too weird). Making a simple game that can be explained as “developer may not be the best, though you can at least feel they tried.” ok fine. Making cheap games constantly with no improvement, or even the same game in order to get the same buck?! NOO! That’s not something anyone is interested in. I’ll add that any game looking ‘NSFW’, is that fine? Long as it’s not for the kids, like it’s for the T or M rating, then fine by… Putting up any ‘NSFW’ game, say ‘hentai game’ (and I’m emphasizing that) is not right if young children can view it! Children should not be the audience for these products, attempting to sell them is too questionable and a bit disturbing. There are my thoughts.
I didn’t notice actually, all my digital games are on Steam. I 99% of my switch games are physical. I think the only things I’ve gotten from the eShop have been Rain On Your Parade, Blanc, and DLC. Such a shame. Hopefully they’ll reboot the shop in the Switch 2. Hey, maybe the curating is what’s taking so long.
Imo Nintendo needs to learn from Steam. Even more games get published on steam per week (~300) but their discoverability algorithm/curation allows quality games to surface
So, I'd like to make a small correction to the video; the Nintendo eShop doesn't link to individual developers (at least on Switch, it does on the website...most of the time), but instead it links the publisher. That said, the eShop has always been a mess. Scrolling appears to be slower compared to when I last used my Switch, I suspect they did that to prevent the lagspikes the eshop would have when you continuously scroll?
Natethehate did a cover on this, had 2 devs on telling how bad the eshop is. From the loading times to all the shovelwave on it. Glad we have another talk about this. Nintendo needs to make the eshop better.
I still can’t get over how slow the eshop runs to this day
Like I thought the lack of music and themes was to make it run faster 😭
there was an INSANE amount of heart and care put into the 3ds eshop, and when you look at the switch's eshop it's just....sad. it looks like a generic chain store's half-assed website. there's no seasonal graphic design changes for thinks like Christmas and Halloween, there's no music for no reason, the filters are extremely basic and the genres included in said filter are too generic, the ui is really annoying to navigate....god. Jesus, it sucks
We’re talking about the company who’s Wii estoppel was so slow it had elevator music.
@@darinherrick9224i can tell you now, the wii shop channel, 3DS and Wii U eshop were way faster than the switch eshop. What made the wii shop channel feel slow is that you had to sit on the download screen, no background downloads. The wii u and 3ds were like that for a little bit but got updated
It will get better with the next console. The ps4 shop was slow as hell too, luckily the PS5 ks powerful enough to run it decently
UA-cam also has a worse search engine it has ever had. Despite millions of videos being uploaded all searches give back between 10 and 20 results and then just go back to your main feed.
Really felt that, it's why I don't use google, but I can't avoid that on UA-cam.
Makes it difficult to find videos from a decade ago, even from big companies, like LEGO.
ARGH this drives me nuts. You can't search for any more than a few results pertinent to your search it's like its trying to fence you in based on your own interests
If you search for any news related things on UA-cam, then it's different, then you get over 1000 videos shown by the media, and no personal feed.
Ever try the recent uploaded search optimizer?
Yeah its non existent.
Itll go from all the same videos consistently watched to magically nothing smh
I find this with searching for new shark videos. It's the same recycled video content over and over again. I'd like to see the more obscure shark sighting videos people have uploaded, even if it's a flash of fin or nothing groundbreaking.
Nintendo needs stricter quality control and a ban on Gen AI. This seriously stinks
... you want a "stricter" Nintendo? You sure?
We had that in the 90s and devs and players hated it
This isn't an on-off switch, it's a slider. There's a huge gap between quality control that prevents someone from dumping a new AI generated visual novel on the storefront or new bundle for the same asset flip every day and whatever you're thinking of.
@@Reach_Whehe.. switch
@@RhythmGrizz 80s and 90s was freaking awesome. Didn't have as much junk allowed.
@@RhythmGrizzI think he means he just wants better quality control for the eshop, not necessarily for Nintendo to be “stricter”. It’s probably due to all the AI generated art games. It would be nice to have a filter option or something.
It’s just full of junk - it’s slow and hard to find what you’re after
That’s why I hardly ever use it, 99% of my games are physical.
It's not even junk it's got some good ones
Can run Tears of the Kingdom, but can it run eShop?!
Use search? Its not hard at all. Click search, type in game, buy game. No one who is looking for a specific game scrolls through the e shop. Be real.
@@EPS5000You could use your PC browser too
Thank you for covering this. The eShop has been nigh unusable for far too long now. I don't even bother scrolling through it now and then anymore like I used to since it's just the same copy paste stuff over and over again anyway.
Nintendo should split the shop into categories:
1. Nintendo games (Super Mario Odyssey, Tears of the Kingdom, Pikmin 4)
2. Third-party AAA games (Call of Duty, Mortal Kombat, Sonic Generations)
3. Verified indie games (Hades, Hollow Knight, Ori)
4. Amateur games/slop (Boobie Hentai Farm Manager 9000)
Having selectable tabs like this would make the world of difference.
The only issue is, what is a "verified indie game"? There are some indie gems especially if you are into local multiplayer, that no one will discover because they don't make it to the verified option.
the solution is to cap their price at 99 cents at all times and force them into a "trash" category
@@MD-qt1of Have a user ratings system like Steam has. The slop will likely get downvoted or recieve 1-2 stars, so they get filtered out
I feel like this would put even more focus on the games nobody wants to see
Where do things like retro compilations like the Sunsoft is Back set of three Famicom games from a few months back go? Sunsoft isn't indie but it CERTAINLY isn't triple A and a bunch of Famicom games from 1985 are certainly not indie games.
For that matter, EGGCONSOLE's line of MSX and other Japanese PC games from the 1980s. Those are definitely not indie and many are from still big-ish companies like Nihon Falcom but an MSX-2 version of Ys 2 is going to be a hard sell for an AAA category.
I buy a ton of retro games from the 1980s and 1990s on Switch and I just don't see a category for them on your list.
Maybe it’s time to bring back the Nintendo Seal of Approval
But how did LJN games get approved? 😂
@@MrBacchus18 big IPs.
All that did was assure the customer that the product was official, and not some unlicensed game/accessory. If these developers wanted to, they could probably make physical versions of some of this slop and they would be official products for the Switch.
@@MrBacchus18Because they paid for the license to put games on NES/SNES carts.
@@jaketaur Not much of a guarantee of quality then.
I’d be more forgiving if I could at least scroll past all the weirdo/shovelware/ai slop at a reasonable pace. The sluggishness is unreal
All the eshop needs is a buy Dragon Quest 2 button. Remove every other game and feature. They just make it harder to do the only viable goal.
They replaced pages in favor of a single infinite scrolling page, which I think is a mistake.
The user experience was so much better on previous eShops
@@vincenzomottola7778 Gotta use the psychological trick that makes you keep scrolling, even though you just want to buy one game. :P
@@vincenzomottola7778 My Joycon drifts left meaning I can scroll down a bit before it gets forcibly reset by my defective controller. I literally cannot browse the eShop on the Switch itself.
So about all those store simulator games: it's a unity template sold by a third party and is effectively "feature complete". An offshoot of that focused around Trading cards took off on steam, which is why the other default for the store simulator in TCG stores. That's why they all have the same ganeplay, controls, mechanics, etc., it's the asset flip of 2024
I won't be surprised if Nintendo blocked unity sdk on the new switch.
Idk about you Jon, but Hentai Girls: College Romance is definitely my GOTY. It definitely blows FF7 Rebirth, Astro Bot and Metaphor ReFantazio out of the water, no cap whatsoever.
Better than black myth wukong
@@SubzeroEclipseCoomers
Astro Bot and Black Myth is the only good games on that list.
You only say this because you haven’t spent enough time yet with the AAA Clock series. Time to wake up!
@@ilbroducciore Literally! I used it as my firstborn's wake up alarm as soon as he came out of the womb - he looked very unbothered! I think.
This is why I use third party websites for searching game stores. Deku Deals for Switch, and PSPrices for PlayStation.
Yoo thanks for this. Wasn't aware this website was a thing. Thank you!
I wish you could hide games in the eshop like you can in Deku deals.
Any reason to not use DekuDeals for PlayStation as well? I don't have any Sony consoles myself but I'm interested if there is a reason for that
@@swindlesmccoop I've been using PSPrices since years before DekuDeals added support for it. Never migrated my data to DekuDeals to compare.
Deku Deals is awesome, makes buying physical way easier too
I've gotten into the habit of buying my eShop games off Nintendo's website instead. It'll still automatically start downloading on my Switch as long as I'm connected to wifi regardless of if I'm using my Switch at the time.
Duly noted, I had no idea that was a thing so thank you very much for pointing it out 🤣
I've done this ever since the 3DS, because that used to load up so slow and I hated the music.
How Nintendo even allows that to be put on the eShop is beyond me. Let’s just hope they get some sense back and keep it off of the Switch 2’s eShop.
When they started offering digital stuff in the Wii/DS era, I feel like their barrier of entry was low because they were trying to course correct from the previous years when they made third party devs wary of making games...but that over compensations lead to the digital wasteland of today
Why?
*_Mr. Krabs voice_* "Money!"
@@CrustyFox87 do you think they have time to scan through every single game?
@@obba40 I’d at least expect them to recognize how shitty it is from a quick look, especially since they ADVERTISE them in the "new games" news on the Switch’s news section
@@CrustyFox87 and then? Comes still down to manually looking at every single game which no one has time for
It's basically like the Wii shovelware all over again with the Switch eShop
True but without the charm
Yeah but phones didn't exist back then, so much less slop
In terms of quantity it's so much worse now
Switch Eshop is worse.
Or the playstation store
By this point, going on the eshop just to browse is impossible. You essentially have to have a general idea of what you want to search for to get anywhere, which takes away the charm of casually logging in to see if there's any interesting new releases you weren't aware of. I really expected better of Nintendo. For all their faults, they usually have had pretty high standards for what they allow on their digital storefronts. This is worse than the Wii's shovelware problem by a wide margin (granted, at least there aren't mountains of plastic garbage that nobody asked for lying around this time around).
Yeah its only worth looking at the top 30 chart at this point.
Disagree with the shovelware issue, because those were actually physical discs. Absolute waste of resources they were. At least this is just an annoying bit to scroll past.
Also, who the hell browses anymore? This ain't the 1950s, nobody's got time for that... Especially not when thousands of companies are vying for every second of your attention and cent you have.
@@shelbyherring92I still browse. Pretty frequently at that. I like looking and seeing what I could possibly get.
@@shelbyherring92 I absoluely agree about the lack of plastic waste involved with the process (I assume my quick edit took longer than I thought to process), I were talking purely on a basis of numbers of genuine games against nonsense/scam software, as that makes even just the routine updates a pain to sift through.
Honestly, I'm an old fogey in my early 30s who don't really keep up with the newest and greatest, especially not when it comes to smaller titles that would've flown under the radar to begin with, so I kind of preferred when I could boot the shop up and take a quick glance to see if there was anything that seemed interesting during the month, especially if it was something lesser known. Still, I get that this situation is a win in the long-term for the world and that the way my generation used to absorb information just isn't the intended way to do things anymore. It still kind of stings since the Switch were advertised as a indies-friendly platform (which were a good 7 years ago... Geez, I really am getting old).
They should have filters.
You should be able to trust some various curators that would give you a skimmed list to choose from
Indie devs used to give them shit for how strict they were on eshop releases which prevented better games from releasing on Eshop years ago.
Seems like there were good reasons for those "restrictions".
@HenshinFanatic Not really because there were alot of games that would have came over but devs that got rejected talked about and the devs with the better games didn't put it on Wii U out of principle.
Nintendo doesn't have leverage like that anymore.
They literally required you to have a business office and address in order to publish on Wii, it was a wildly different era.
@@SuperFirstSecond yea and you would get less hentai games but also almost no games.
How long it took them to get The Binding of Isaac released... that was wild.
Nintendo in the 90s: "Well Sega is getting more sales on Mortal Kombat for having blood, we'll let our port of Mortal Kombat II to have it then"
Nintendo in 2020s: "We'll get more sales on our console if we allow booba games in the eShop"
Nintento "Jiggle Jiggle "😂
Unfortunately my kids have fallen into the trap of thinking every single Minecraft clone is worth their time. Any time they get gift cards for holidays or birthdays they insist on throwing them at these ripoffs. They have access to all the greatest games on the console, but they choose to go for rip offs and cash grabs even when I recommend other good games to them.
maybe it could benefit from a star rating system just like the Wii U had. Another feature they could add is a is a way to filter out anything you don't want to see, like blocking out certain publishers from your view and the last thing they can do is actually make the discovery tab, a discovery tab.
Nintendo (along with Playstation and Xbox actually) should add a feature that allows you to "mute" certain games Im not interested in from showing up in your browsing and search list and you dont have to sift through the same garbage over and over again. Like if I want to find a good game thats on sale I want to mute all the shovelware and ai slop thats on sale so it makes finding the good games easier.
muting entire words like "hentai" and "simulator" as well would help!
The ability to "ignore" specific publishers would be good too.
Steam pretty much has this, you can have it filter out games with certain tags and individual games you set to ignore. The only problem is that the tags are user-defined on Steam so you occasionally have stuff that gets tagged incorrectly like "sexual content" on a game that doesn't have anything like that just because some people thought it would be funny to tag it with that
Steam does that. Why can't console developers add that function?
Yet another reason why physical needs to stay. It doesn't matter if all future consoles are fully backwards compatible, you'll still be dependent on an eShop that may or may not work properly if digital is the only option.
In a time where the 1.0 physical version will be the most basic version of a game i do not see how that phsical version will be played and enjoyed, once the digital shops close down and you can't access any of the DLC or content patches anymore.
Then you're just stuck with a very basic and inferior version of a game.
Edit: typo
They really need to revamp and fix the eshop. Not just the loading but the ui, the sorting the filteting. I want just rpgs one section and one for retro, one arcades, one new retro games etc.
I don't know if the solution is to prevent access from developers to release their junk, it's the price we're paying so small developers can publish their games on the Switch more easily. The problem is its how the search query leaves the legitimately good games buried in shovelware. What eShop needs (besides better UX/UI) is a more nuanced algorithm that puts the most searched/liked/reviewed/whatever games on top, and bury the shovelware down.
They really need a review feature. I know user reviews are a bit contentious these days, but they could easily solve the review bombing problem by ensuring only people who have bought & played the game for a set amount of time can review it. Then (hopefully) the slop will get low reviews and be pushed to the bottom.
@Aqua-ij3xs I can see why they don't have a review feature, review bombing is a problem they'd rather not have. But maybe see how engaged people are with the games, they have everyone's game log for starters.
I agree with this. I don't think that restricting content in the name of quality control is the best solution here, but prioritizing (presumably) higher-quality content using an improved algorithm would help filter out the shovelware. Unfortunately, depending on the execution, some stinkers may get through (children often enjoy games that, from an adult perspective, are quite bad, both in the past and in the present; just look at many of the Ubisoft Petz games, barring the original Petz 5), but it'd likely be an improvement regardless.
it's just so much better to have a system where random people can't just upload games to begin with tbh
i think a filter might help, like if you can filter out games from certain devolopers that could be good
12:45 that is straight up a ripoff of TCG Card Shop Simulator, which released on Steam in September 2024 with lots of positive reception
Removing the star rating system out of the switch eshop that was there at launch was one of the worse things Nintendo did to the store. Not having a eshop jingle of course, is also a horrible offender.
I played and enjoyed Grapple Dogs Cosmic Canines at WASD earlier this year. It was on my radar, and I still didn't realise it had launched.
So like anyone can just upload any game on the eshop?? The same thing happened to the 3ds eshop, how is there so many trash looking generic mobile games getting approved?
The eShop always had garbage on it, who remember vroom in the night sky?
Me! That was fun!
I was expecting the Switch eShop to have better quality control than previous eShops, but that never happened
How dare you.
But at least that was unique classy trash. This is just slop trash
Vroom in the Night Sky is a million times better than the games showcased in this video. It really shouldn't be hard for Nintendo to not allow AI slop while still allowing merely bad games like Vroom in the Night Sky.
They really need a rating system too. And reviews. I feel like they should do it like they did back with nes and say which games should be on their platform. It's starting to look like steam instead of an eshop.
We are not allowed to have an impact on anything these days or voice our opinion about anything as consumers. Otherwise people would know what's good and what's bad and that simply won't do for these greedy companies pumping out this copy-paste AI generated trash and more.
The fact that I also noticed this for Supermarket Simulator but just wrote it off as "yeah, of course that's on the eshop" is even worse. Practices like this are mostly normalized.
My biggest concern for the Switch 2 is that it just has the same eShop.
Switch DLC
The Switch eShop is basically the new Steam Store. I was shocked when I saw believe visual novels like Nekopara and BlackBerry Honey there (granted they’re the censored versions with none of the 18+ content) which is all fine, I have no issues with that. But then I saw all the “hentAI” garbage and realized it’s even worse than the steam store.
at least steam store has filters and runs well, and has pretty regular sales
At least Nekopara is a legitimate product. You may not like it, but it's not complete shovelware.
Stuff like what's in the thumbnail for this video on the other hand...
The amount of AI slop, name rip-offs, copy/paste "deluxe ultimate pro" versions of the same game, and asset flips have gotten very absurd in the last few years. I generally just look through the much shorter coming soon page. Less cluttered with slop (still exists, though) and I have a higher likelihood of seeing something I wasn't aware of that interests me (ie: an old game re-release or an indie title in general). I'll sometimes look through the recent releases just for fun, but I almost never check the current offers though. I can't remember the last time when the current offers wasn't 90% junk.
The fact that I didn’t know Grapple Dogs existed until I found this video says everything about the eshop. But now I want to look into it.
What the Eshop needs is an algorithm system. Something that recommends games to you based on your purchasing history
It’s one thing for the ai thumbnails on so many products, and even more so when the “gameplay” pictures also use the ai pictures.
But I really hate how there are games that use a similar name to other ones to try and trick people into buying them.
That “Little Strays” game came out a day before the actual Stray game out
It’s the Asylum of video-games; those AI-generated thumbnail copycat games make me feel like a grandma almost mistaking Transformers for Transmorphers.
I am happy that they aren't as strict on digital releases like they were back in the day, I remember Binding of Isaac being such a high profile launch on the Wii U/3DS because that was speculated as a "never gonna happen" for forever.
But yeah, as it is now it's too easy for slop to game the system and clog up the eshop.
The TCG Card simulator is a ripoff from TCG Card Shop Simulator on Steam.
It seems it even reuses assets.
The green lines are stink that you can clear by using air fresheners or air freshener machines.
So yeah it's a clone of an actually good game on Early Access on Steam
i mean at least on the wii you had to go to a store to find slop, but now that the slop is exponentially worse they’re letting it directly onto their storefront. they need to just add someone to their store management who can spot garbage and say no to it.
that, and for the most part you at least needed to get someone to print discs for you. now that manufacturing has been cut out of the equation so many more numbskulls get to run wild on the platform.
I miss how on wii u they had more categories and discoverability with stuff like "games for you" as well as a built in review system with star ratings. the eshop definitely felt like just a thing slapped together because they needed a digital store and was never intended to stay this way, but then they just never really added much to make it any better.
I said the other day that the switch has more shovel ware than any other console ive had.
Simplest solution: Raise the price of listing a game on the eShop so that a game requires far more sales in order to break even than it currently does. Most of the garbage on the shop probably sells very few copies, so if a developer had to pay a substantial fee, he wouldn't list fifty variants of "Ultimate Extreme Deluxe Clock". The payment structure could be set up in such a way that the listing fee is essentially an advance on Nintendo's take of the sales. I.e. to compensate the developer for paying the listing fee, Nintendo would reduce its cut until the sales reached a certain level. That way, legitimate developers could get the listing fee back, but the fee would still serve to keep out the junk.
Most of the Switch games I buy are physical, so I rarely look at the eShop. There is more quality control with a physical releases typically, it’s interesting to see the barrier of entry so low for digital content now.
If I remember correctly, a few years ago there was supposed to be some game that was going to be released on the Switch’s eShop called “Don’t Get Caught”, where you try not to get caught choking your chicken. It never got released because Nintendo blocked the developers from releasing it due to backlash. If only something like that could happen again.
"The amount of hentai games is endless" ~ Jon 2024
We all know who is buying every single one of them.
Nah not me. Especially if it's obviously made with AI, and that I do not support AI at all.
Makese wonder if any of them are _actually_ any good. Somebody must be buying them all.
@@bashura_0019nobody cares. Nobody is giving you a trophy for not supporting a.i
5:14 excuse you jon, but om nom run 2 is the peak of perfection
I don't even go on the eshop anymore. It's so sad
I remember when we were celebrating Sonic Mania as the Switch's 100th game. It was a HUGE milestone after the Wii U'S failure and when the Switch's succeess wasn't guaranteed.
Now it's getting 50 games every singe day lol
It’s modern day shovel ware, but unlike the Wii days it’s not on store shelves, so most don’t pay it any mind. Nintendo (and every other digital platform holder) gets a percentage of those sales, so don’t expect it to improve.
Jon is always here providing the best videos here. I'm always happy to see him pop up at the beginning of any video
Yea it’s gotten to the point that I wont even open the eShop anymore, Im back to buying all my games physically (which admittedly I should have been doing anyway)
I only bought eshop content twice..cause they weren't available in physical
Backwards compatibility + rethinking the length of the console life cycle = 150 versions of AAA Clock.
It’s crazy how quick it was, stylized it was, and with music on their previous 3 consoles…
The Wii, 3DS, and Wii U shops were NOT quick. Wii was fairly slow and could only load a few games on screen at once, and it took a surprisingly long amount of time to download even NES games. The Wii U took so long to boot up that they gave you a minigame.
Let's not let nostalgia cloud reality here. The music was great though.
@@SuperFirstSecond I guess I meant more in comparison to the Switch's Eshop, being so dreadfully slow and unresponsive. I do feel like the 3DS shop was pretty decent with loading, though, but you're right nostalgia definitly clouds things!
I was JUST looking for a game where I couldn't remember the title this weekend. Why is Jon so presently occupying my brain???
The N64 released 388 games in 7 years. The Switch released 531 games in 2 months. Nintendo Seal of Quality be damned!😮💨
Personally as a Hentai Girls - College Romance superfan, I feel that theres never been a better time to own a Nintendo Switch
All from GVG are. They just don't admit it.
Exactly
There is a whole lot of Luigi content.
It feels like Nintendo has just left to eshop to die this generation. Sure there was slop on previous iterations before, but it was never THIS bad and THIS level of slop
the nintendo eSlop
EGGCONSOLE Dragon Slayer the Legend of Heroes spotted 🥶
EGGCONSOLE is doing incredible work rereleasing Japanese PC games from the 80s and is totally neglected for it.
@@pattersong6637doesn’t help that the eshop is having steam “visibility syndrome” in full effect
Remember when the eShop had charming music on the prior consoles?
The Wii Shop Channel's theme music is so iconic, many people use it.
5:27 I feel like the games given bigger priority on the "On Sale" section are based on how many copies they've sold since they went on sale. If that is the case, then I guess those slop games must sell a fair bit if they're that high up on it, whether it be from people wanting to buy it for a laugh with friends and never touch it again, or kids thinking it's the actual popular simulation games that are on PC. (Ironically enough, there actually WAS a good shop simulator glimpsed at in the video: Moonlighter. It's on sale like the rest, but it's just buried under the slop.)
Either way, it sucks that Nintendo has barely any regulation on what goes into the eShop anymore...
It would not surprise me. I can totally see a kid going "Wow a game for 50 cents, that's awesome!" And buying some garbage game without using a single ounce of brain power.
Worst part is that all of these problems are probably still going to be a thing on the next console.
(Suthorn village theme from Echoes of Wisdom, what a banger ❤)
“Little Strays” came out the same day as “Stray.” 🤔
I thought my game had a good chance because the surrounding game thumbnails looked a bit crap, so I figured we'd stand out really well among them. But then Plucky Squire dropped a couple days before we did, and kind of swallowed up all the switch news for the week. And I get it. It's a really fun game. But I think I got my hopes up just based on the rubbish adjacent to our thumbnail.
It's embarrassing, how Nintendo just let's their shop being a landfill. It's laggy af to the point that I don't even go there anymore, can't find shit in it and the further you go worse of a experience you'll have.
At this point, it might be feasible to sell me on the Switch Successor even if the only difference is a usable eshop. Same hardware as before, that's why it's backwards compatible, but it's technically a new console, so they can enforce new rules on the eshop successor.
This problem isn't exclusive to Nintendo Consoles. It's been happening on all consoles.
This is very much an industry problem.
I wish there was a way to block or hide games you don’t want to see anymore unless you search for it
Noticed it myself hope it doesn't carry over to the new console.
It’s so full of junk that I just don’t bother going in there anymore. A shame because I used to like scrolling through and finding some gem maybe no one had played, but now it’s difficult and feels like I’ll probably just get scammed.
At least they should give an option to filter Gen AI stuff like on Pixiv. But even that isn't enough unfortunately.
It genuinely baffles me how bad the eShop is. Nintendo is losing ungodly amounts of money just because nobody wants to use the thing, and for some reason don’t want to fix it??
Cynthia hidden in the moonshadow/Aeternoblade/Asterigos standing there in the corner intensely trying not to get caught
Nintendo's commitment to keep the eShop as un-usable as possible is wild
They just need to add a “do not include slop” filter option.
mAN YOU NEED AN ASMR CHANNELLLLL
your voice is just so good and tingly
Wouldn't it be great if there were some kind of... IDK... "Nintendo Seal of Quality" or something like that?
I buy frequently from the eshop and I have to curate every purchase I make cause of the possibility of AI slop occurring, I try to watch a trailer or something before committing
I usually look up major publishers libraries and watch the directs
@veganmax8015 i do that as well. However, i have found some gems on the eshop when I go doomscrolling to find whatever catches my eye
It's the worst kind of shovel ware. It's like Nintendo has no filter and quality for what games can go up for sale.
Best thing you can do is add the game that you're interested in buying to your favorite. Cause it will get buried under garbage.
Almost a decade into its lifespan, the Nintendo e-shop still looks and feels like an early beta. The shovelware situation is absolutely crazy.
There's always at least one person at card shops who smells so bad that they should probably have green stink clouds.
This is crazy. Because of the unhinged shovel-ware problem and the straight up grifting they did with Pokemon Scarlet and Violet and Tears of The Kingdom I am no longer a Nintendo fan. I won't be purchasing any more of their consoles, that's for sure.
They need to shut down the Switch Eshop for a week to clean up the garbage, and re-open the 3DS and WiiU shops
13:16 it is a straight rip off of tcg store simulator. Even down to the stinky customers. Should be illegal tbh
At least you can navigate the shop on the computer, much faster experience and it’ll automatically start downloading it on your switch.
My bittersweet example is “One Night Burlesque”.
It’s caught my eye and went ahead when it was on sale for under $2. Figured I’d try it sooner or later.
Then it kept popping up as deluxe this and complete that…it soured my desire to boot up the game.
That one looks like an actual game tho (no idea if its good or anything.)
I nearly bought that one, glad I held off.
definitely noticed the flood of ai slop but hadnt caught on about the rotating sale prices and just how many impostor games there are.
Exactly the kind of uplifting content I expect from GOOD VIBES GAMING
Eshop is awful these days but all of the other platforms aren’t much better. Trying to browse for hidden gems just isn’t viable anymore. It’s not gonna happen but every online shop should up quality control and crack down on the asset flip/AI slop and clean things up so it isn’t unusably slow.
Thankfully, we have channels like yours that highlight those hidden independent gems.
I downloaded my 10year old son Portal 1 & 2 for £3ish....he loves them!
99% of the asset flip games are real bad. But TCG Card Shop Simulator was being ripped off there towards the end. On Steam, TCG Card Shop Simulator, is Overwhelmingly Positive and it's a fun basic sim game. I played it a few hours. The smelling is just saying you should order deodorant for those types of people that don't shower before going out. Or can set up a machine to spray when someone smelly walks past.
It became the Google Play store app..
It is a better google app though. Google's policies and Nintendo's are different. The paying once for slop is better than hosting viruses and ads.
we need Meme Run to come back, it will fix everytthing
Meme run beats the socks off what the eShop is nowadays lmao
Navigating the eshop to find the games you want at a reasonable price has become a game in itself.
Why I'm not surprised..? Some people don't care whether it's a good game or not, they just puchase to have it. Unfortunately, this increases sloppy AI games on the eshop.
The Switch eShop is just sad but worse than that it's a hard to navigate mess full of shovel-ist of wares with asset AI generated garbage and asset flips. I don't want Nintendo to censor like Sony does but I also don't want the eShop to an unkempt mess. Really feels like they don't care at all that trying to find a game without searching the title is an awful experience.
Look there are things I’m fine with: Releasing mobile games with no ads, odd but ok (long as it ain’t too weird). Making a simple game that can be explained as “developer may not be the best, though you can at least feel they tried.” ok fine.
Making cheap games constantly with no improvement, or even the same game in order to get the same buck?! NOO! That’s not something anyone is interested in.
I’ll add that any game looking ‘NSFW’, is that fine? Long as it’s not for the kids, like it’s for the T or M rating, then fine by…
Putting up any ‘NSFW’ game, say ‘hentai game’ (and I’m emphasizing that) is not right if young children can view it! Children should not be the audience for these products, attempting to sell them is too questionable and a bit disturbing.
There are my thoughts.
I didn’t notice actually, all my digital games are on Steam. I 99% of my switch games are physical. I think the only things I’ve gotten from the eShop have been Rain On Your Parade, Blanc, and DLC.
Such a shame. Hopefully they’ll reboot the shop in the Switch 2. Hey, maybe the curating is what’s taking so long.
Imo Nintendo needs to learn from Steam. Even more games get published on steam per week (~300) but their discoverability algorithm/curation allows quality games to surface
The sony store got 4 TCG store simulators the past week. All look similar and different developer's as well.
So, I'd like to make a small correction to the video; the Nintendo eShop doesn't link to individual developers (at least on Switch, it does on the website...most of the time), but instead it links the publisher. That said, the eShop has always been a mess. Scrolling appears to be slower compared to when I last used my Switch, I suspect they did that to prevent the lagspikes the eshop would have when you continuously scroll?
Natethehate did a cover on this, had 2 devs on telling how bad the eshop is. From the loading times to all the shovelwave on it. Glad we have another talk about this. Nintendo needs to make the eshop better.