I hope you continue to dabble in VR as it's a really interesting field not just for gaming but for entertainment as a whole. The Flat to VR modding scene is amazing and has made some cool things.
I wonder if the developers making Half Life 2 ever envisioned their game being played on a virtual screen in a VR headset with the Pokémon Typing Adventure keyboard
Awesome video John! Yeah, this feature is worth spotlighting for VR! My biggest "WTF!"-moment in VR was when I was playing Half Life Alyx, went into Steam and accidentally started Redream (Dreamcast emulator). When it booted up curiosity took hold of me and I started playing Dead or Alive 2, Only to realize that I could attach that window as a virtual screen within the Half Life Alyx environment. Absolutely insane! :) So there I was, playing Dreamcast in a City17 apartment "gaming within a game". Later on I realized how incredibly powerful and versitile SteamVR is. You can literally attach the desktop, or any individual windows into your environment. Heck why not have windows attached to your wrists? (I use it for monitoring stuff; twitch chat, system stats etc.)
Pro tip for battery life, grab a good usb power bank or two. You can go for MUCH longer! Just make sure it outputs the right voltage. Plus of course you could get a long USB C cord for pluging to an outlet.
When I first got my meta quest 2, it really opened my eyes to just how much vr had evolved. Especially when trying it out with my PC. Same as you said, the battery life is probably the biggest draw back. And sometimes the wire would be finicky when staying connected with my computer but im sure it's gotten better! Thanks for this video jon, honestly I'd be so down for a side series of a "Jon playthrough of RE4 VR" Would be sick. Keep it up man, see you in the next year!
I have no problem with some VR content! I get motion sickness pretty easily, so I won't buy into the ecosystem until I've at least tried it, which I've yet to have an opportunity. Seeing stuff like this to showcase some of the cool things you can do is great!
I've had the Quest 3, but it's still a long way from being comfortable using this technology. Your eyes get tired a lot faster because they are constantly at 100% work when you have the headset on your head.
This has sold me more on VR than literally anything else in the past few years, really cool application. Hopefully we can continue to get smaller and sleeker headsets.
If this is the only use you want there are different AR glasses that can do a similar thing of having multiple virtual monitors. I think it uses your pc more for the calculations since the glasses themselves don't really have any processing hardware in them. I'm pretty sure the xreal glasses can do this.
I love getting into VR at the same time as GVG, I really don’t understand the negativity some people have. I’ve been so burnt out with games and the last few months playing VR have been the most fun I’ve had playing games in years.
honestly, i wouldn't mind more quest 3 coverage. i bought a quest 3s for my whole family for christmas, and these videos are getting me excited for what i'll be able to with it (uh, i mean us, and we 😅😅)
I will say with ultrawide monitors, I recommend moving the HUD into the center of the screen. That way you could bring the screen closer to you and increase the curve and have it fill up more of your peripheral vision. Doing that looks incredible.
It’s cool you’re getting into the VR space jon, I recently got my meta quest 3s and it’s been amazing so far. The amount of good games on it is crazy, and that doesn’t touch the other cool things you can do like you talked about which is virtual desktop. VR is getting really neat the more I dabble into it, glad you’re enjoying it too. Hopefully you get into looking up some accessories for it too, there’s a lot of cool and maybe necessary ones for the headset, like the elite strap with the battery.
Thank you for making this video. I am going be traveling for a very long time next year and wondered if this could be a viable alternative to just using my 14" laptop. It sounds like for some productivity tasks which favor lots of screen real estate (like editing videos) it absolutely could be!
A protip for battery life just in case you aren't aware, there are better third party straps that add battery packs. It's a little pricey for an accessory but worth it for the extra time. I personally use the bobo vr head strap.
Surely VR as a long term replacement is not good for your eyes. A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog big difference is that a screen is just that its eas to look at for several hours and you can easily leave it by just looking away buit with vr its alot harder given its a whole thing you put on your head plus the general feeling
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
@@toututu2993 A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
I have a cable that can keep the headset charged while plugging in and doesn't really bother me too much to have it there, but I must say that it's very uncomfortable to wear long-term. I'm not sure about the people complaining about it being too heavy, but I've found that I basically have to balance between it looking kind of blurry and wearing it really tight to get a good picture, and sometimes it's just impossible to wear for longer than a couple hours, and other times I can spend all day in it.
I got a PSVR1 a few weeks ago, and even this quite old VR headset has changed my perspective. I thought it was slowly niche for just gaming, and did not see the productivity impact. I got a PSVR2 with the PC Adapter arriving this week and cannot wait to try out all my PS5 and PC games with VR support on it (as well as some without support on PC), and to try all this virtual desktop and screen features and apps.
I have a toddler also. I can’t imagine wearing a headset around my wife or kids. It’s the same reason I have my computer desk in the living room instead of an office
As a Linux user I'm excited for Stardust XR and a FOSS fully free gaming experience where every window and application can be interacted with in XR around your house;
I can't wait for the VR office. A virtual place where you see all your colleagues. But guess what, pretty sure most companies would still make you travel from A to B for now reason.
Some more tips: - the steamvr interface is also very good to deal with tons of monitors virtual screens, just a bit less convenient, and has custom community environments including some very cool ones like a recreation of the entirety of Mario 64 - the headset comfort and battery limitations can easily be solved with the right accessories that work best for you, I have a long usbc cable that connects my headset both to my PC and to a power supply so I can have both a wired connection and infinite battery
I just dusted off my quest 2, and it just confirms how I'd like a quest 3, and i probably would actually start to use it more, with the better more comfortable displays
I wish I could use VR headsets, but they make me sick very quickly, I've tried a few different ones but nothing has stopped me feeling sick, I have a bit of a lazy eye, first thing that came up was kot being able to watch stuff in 3d as I don't put the 2 pictures together correctly and this extends to VR headsets
There's a Half-Life 2 VR mod on Steam! It's free! I HIGHLY recommend trying it, it's incredible being able to step into a world I previously just viewed on a flatscreen in my childhood. (It does make you realize how low-res some of the textures are though. 😅)
I find that the input delay on something like the Quest is too high for XR displays on PC to really be usable. Especially to play 2D games on a screen in VR via something like Virtual Desktop. Your PC has to encode the video and stream it to your headset which adds too much latency. I'd probably use VR screens a lot if that delay was gone.
Once the novelty of it for replicating flatscreens wears off, you'll all go back to your normal screens. It's just not worth the tradeoffs long term. It's too uncomfortable and inconvenient to set things up. Not saying it doesn't have its uses in other ways, but this ain't it.
I'd like to add, it's published by Playtonic, the creators of Yooka-Laylee and the upcoming Yooka-Replaylee. The developers are an indie company called Skydevilpalm.
Bluetooth mouse and keyboard is bad in general, even with normal PCs. They have work better on Mac for some reason. I learned the hard way... 2.4Ghz wireless is the best 😇
VRChat is trash. It is the worse vr mechanic that is none existence and the only reason you stick on VRChat is the friends that your interested in which got nothing to do with VRChat
I'm getting a PSVR2 soon and I've got my adapter set up and ready and I've been hoping I could play 3D games through rpcs3, citra or older PC titles because of it lol. It's a shame that 3D was just treated as a fad and never really evolved or had enough traction for companies to develop better technology or more content for.
@@toututu2993I think some games deserve to stay on screens, but would benefit from better 3d, I don't want every game I play to be fully immersive, sometimes i want just a big tv
VR's positives far outweight negatives like uncomfotable strap, ruined face, and latency motion controllers. It can do 1,000,000,000 times more thing than a whole most expensive pc rig setup. 20 floating resizable screens that can be both curve or flat is just a tip of the iceberg of the vr capability
*I'm Incredibly Intrigued for whatever Team Valve's cooking up for the VR/Home Console Space.* 🔥 🔥 🔥 🫠 But also, I just want to play Half-Life: Alyx finally.
We apologise for the blur at 1:48 - unfortunately an inappropriate social post didn't catch our attention initially
The other lesson is to not use Twitter or any alternatives to it.
Got that vr goon cave setup
leezord dong :)
Glad to see jon also falling deeper and deeper into the vr rabbit hole, it's so full of cool stuff
I hope you continue to dabble in VR as it's a really interesting field not just for gaming but for entertainment as a whole. The Flat to VR modding scene is amazing and has made some cool things.
I wonder if the developers making Half Life 2 ever envisioned their game being played on a virtual screen in a VR headset with the Pokémon Typing Adventure keyboard
Probably, considering how omnipresent Pokémon is…
One of us! One of us! Glad to see you're really getting into XR, can't wait for VR/AR/MR to really blow up!
Awesome video John! Yeah, this feature is worth spotlighting for VR! My biggest "WTF!"-moment in VR was when I was playing Half Life Alyx, went into Steam and accidentally started Redream (Dreamcast emulator). When it booted up curiosity took hold of me and I started playing Dead or Alive 2, Only to realize that I could attach that window as a virtual screen within the Half Life Alyx environment. Absolutely insane! :) So there I was, playing Dreamcast in a City17 apartment "gaming within a game". Later on I realized how incredibly powerful and versitile SteamVR is. You can literally attach the desktop, or any individual windows into your environment. Heck why not have windows attached to your wrists? (I use it for monitoring stuff; twitch chat, system stats etc.)
Enjoying the VR content. Please keep it coming.
Pro tip for battery life, grab a good usb power bank or two. You can go for MUCH longer! Just make sure it outputs the right voltage. Plus of course you could get a long USB C cord for pluging to an outlet.
I love the Everybody's Golf 6 (Hot Shot) course 1 song in the background of the video! Thank you for the video Jon! All the best for the new year! :)
I was just coming here to comment that! Everybody's golf 6 music is so good (and my favorite Vita game)
When I first got my meta quest 2, it really opened my eyes to just how much vr had evolved. Especially when trying it out with my PC. Same as you said, the battery life is probably the biggest draw back. And sometimes the wire would be finicky when staying connected with my computer but im sure it's gotten better! Thanks for this video jon, honestly I'd be so down for a side series of a "Jon playthrough of RE4 VR" Would be sick. Keep it up man, see you in the next year!
I have no problem with some VR content! I get motion sickness pretty easily, so I won't buy into the ecosystem until I've at least tried it, which I've yet to have an opportunity. Seeing stuff like this to showcase some of the cool things you can do is great!
I've had the Quest 3, but it's still a long way from being comfortable using this technology. Your eyes get tired a lot faster because they are constantly at 100% work when you have the headset on your head.
This has sold me more on VR than literally anything else in the past few years, really cool application. Hopefully we can continue to get smaller and sleeker headsets.
If this is the only use you want there are different AR glasses that can do a similar thing of having multiple virtual monitors. I think it uses your pc more for the calculations since the glasses themselves don't really have any processing hardware in them. I'm pretty sure the xreal glasses can do this.
If you only wanna do this get AR's
I love getting into VR at the same time as GVG, I really don’t understand the negativity some people have. I’ve been so burnt out with games and the last few months playing VR have been the most fun I’ve had playing games in years.
honestly, i wouldn't mind more quest 3 coverage. i bought a quest 3s for my whole family for christmas, and these videos are getting me excited for what i'll be able to with it (uh, i mean us, and we 😅😅)
ok being able to have the VR headset be as many monitors as you can handle is the real VR Dream
1:52😭😭😭😭😭 may have been a little oopsie on that vertical screen there
(this is a really cool video btw)
Probably there to hide personal info
Be it my main interest being video games, I’ve never really considered how else VR could be used. I already love my psvr2 so much and this is awesome
I will say with ultrawide monitors, I recommend moving the HUD into the center of the screen. That way you could bring the screen closer to you and increase the curve and have it fill up more of your peripheral vision. Doing that looks incredible.
Virtual Desktop is honestly magic
It’s cool you’re getting into the VR space jon, I recently got my meta quest 3s and it’s been amazing so far. The amount of good games on it is crazy, and that doesn’t touch the other cool things you can do like you talked about which is virtual desktop. VR is getting really neat the more I dabble into it, glad you’re enjoying it too. Hopefully you get into looking up some accessories for it too, there’s a lot of cool and maybe necessary ones for the headset, like the elite strap with the battery.
Headset feeling heavy and uncomfortable is solved by getting a better headstrap that will distribute the weight more evenly
Miss watching you at nintendolife! Great video on the vr desktop, i may have to consider purchasing it for my new quest 3s
Your videos are tempting me to get one... very cool stuff
Thank you for making this video. I am going be traveling for a very long time next year and wondered if this could be a viable alternative to just using my 14" laptop. It sounds like for some productivity tasks which favor lots of screen real estate (like editing videos) it absolutely could be!
Gonna miss those dulcet tones for the last couple weeks of the year, boss. I hope your previously-recorded discussions are entertaining enough ;)
Halo MCC also has a 3D Geo-11 mod you can play in virtual desktop
Now we’re getting into the “weird super sci fi concept video of technology that doesn’t exist except it actually does” territory.
A protip for battery life just in case you aren't aware, there are better third party straps that add battery packs. It's a little pricey for an accessory but worth it for the extra time. I personally use the bobo vr head strap.
Surely VR as a long term replacement is not good for your eyes. A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
Looking at any screen long term isn't good for your eyes
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog big difference is that a screen is just that its eas to look at for several hours and you can easily leave it by just looking away buit with vr its alot harder
given its a whole thing you put on your head plus the general feeling
Same can be said with the physical monitor/tv 😂
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
@@toututu2993 A TV or Monitor has a much further distance and can be looked away from. With monitors on VR even if you "look away" persay you're looking at pixels so your eyes don't need to use their muscles.
I have a cable that can keep the headset charged while plugging in and doesn't really bother me too much to have it there, but I must say that it's very uncomfortable to wear long-term. I'm not sure about the people complaining about it being too heavy, but I've found that I basically have to balance between it looking kind of blurry and wearing it really tight to get a good picture, and sometimes it's just impossible to wear for longer than a couple hours, and other times I can spend all day in it.
probably the most interesting use case or vr to me, especially considering the very few notable vr games
I just bought a Meta Quest 3S, excited to try this with Switch games via my capture card
I got a PSVR1 a few weeks ago, and even this quite old VR headset has changed my perspective. I thought it was slowly niche for just gaming, and did not see the productivity impact.
I got a PSVR2 with the PC Adapter arriving this week and cannot wait to try out all my PS5 and PC games with VR support on it (as well as some without support on PC), and to try all this virtual desktop and screen features and apps.
An LX System overlay would be amazing for playing UFO 50
I like how your baby refuses to look at you😂
You gotta try the 3 the pancake lenses are amazing and look incredible
I'm so used to seeing Arlo I didn't even question him appearing on screen on this channel lol
Your setrup is crazy
8:05 That's a Dreamcast Samba de Amigo maracas controller.
I have a toddler also. I can’t imagine wearing a headset around my wife or kids. It’s the same reason I have my computer desk in the living room instead of an office
As a Linux user I'm excited for Stardust XR and a FOSS fully free gaming experience where every window and application can be interacted with in XR around your house;
1:52 uhh what is that on the right
oh no lmao
Social feeds are dangerous, let's see if we can censor that...
I literally locked onto it
Holy jesus lmao. I'm surprised yt didn't automatically pick that up
I'm laughing my ass off at this. Jon is one of us.
Gross
I can't wait for the VR office. A virtual place where you see all your colleagues. But guess what, pretty sure most companies would still make you travel from A to B for now reason.
Some more tips:
- the steamvr interface is also very good to deal with tons of monitors virtual screens, just a bit less convenient, and has custom community environments including some very cool ones like a recreation of the entirety of Mario 64
- the headset comfort and battery limitations can easily be solved with the right accessories that work best for you, I have a long usbc cable that connects my headset both to my PC and to a power supply so I can have both a wired connection and infinite battery
well nope because it’s gonna give u more neck pain and headaches
I just dusted off my quest 2, and it just confirms how I'd like a quest 3, and i probably would actually start to use it more, with the better more comfortable displays
Finally, an alternative to purposely inducing a visual migraine and pretending it's an emulator window playing Super Mario Bros. 2
I remember hearing that Samba de Amigo had a unique controller but I didn't think they actually made sound.
Hey don't forget you can play Sonic Generations in 3D using big screen vr
It's a cool idea in theory but I think there'd be too many practical issues for me; comfort, battery life, eye strain, etc.
I wish i could use VR/AR without getting ill. I'd replace my current monitor setup with it.
Man, I wanted those maracas so bad back in the day lol.
1:48 Can I ask what was here? Yes, I know it was an inappropriate post, but what was it exactly?
HOT SHOTS GOLF MENTIONED WTF IS A NEW GAMEEEEE
I ordered a Quest 3s as a Christmas present for myself.
Have you looked into using developer mode for "native" emulation on the headset?
so we got the steam deck for portability, and the meta quest for immersion.
The switch is crying in shambles being only used for multiplayer :(
Microsoft just made their own version of virtual display - check it out
One of us one of us
I wish I could use VR headsets, but they make me sick very quickly, I've tried a few different ones but nothing has stopped me feeling sick, I have a bit of a lazy eye, first thing that came up was kot being able to watch stuff in 3d as I don't put the 2 pictures together correctly and this extends to VR headsets
There's a Half-Life 2 VR mod on Steam! It's free! I HIGHLY recommend trying it, it's incredible being able to step into a world I previously just viewed on a flatscreen in my childhood.
(It does make you realize how low-res some of the textures are though. 😅)
With how you showed Halo, are you aware of Halo CEVR?
Sweet video. What do you for battery life in long sessions?
Arlo jumpscare!
It can, but what if I don’t want it to?
1:52 ... lmfao
That's Jon's wife
I find that the input delay on something like the Quest is too high for XR displays on PC to really be usable. Especially to play 2D games on a screen in VR via something like Virtual Desktop. Your PC has to encode the video and stream it to your headset which adds too much latency. I'd probably use VR screens a lot if that delay was gone.
3:10 this user is NOT using the mod that fixes analog sensitivity in sa2pc
Once the novelty of it for replicating flatscreens wears off, you'll all go back to your normal screens. It's just not worth the tradeoffs long term. It's too uncomfortable and inconvenient to set things up. Not saying it doesn't have its uses in other ways, but this ain't it.
Wondering if you can connect the quest natively to PC and have a setup with multiple monitors rather than streaming it
Haven't tried the multiple screens but the Quest can connect directly to a PC.
@ yes i know that - but would like the monitors to be native instead of streamed. Thanks anyway
Does the Virtual Desktop app work with PSVR2?
5:40 what game is this, looks sick
Victory Heat Rally
Indeed rocks
I'd like to add, it's published by Playtonic, the creators of Yooka-Laylee and the upcoming Yooka-Replaylee. The developers are an indie company called Skydevilpalm.
Wait. So, do you plug the USB C into the Quest for M+KB?
Yeah Quest has a USB C port and with a USB C-A adapter you can put tons of standard PC peripherals in
I would love to do stuff like this, but I cant bring myself to do it as I live with my girlfriend and using VR is incredibly antisocial.
It's very cool and all, but having to wear that headset all the time is a major turnoff for me.
I can't even stand headphones. lol
Bluetooth mouse and keyboard is bad in general, even with normal PCs. They have work better on Mac for some reason. I learned the hard way...
2.4Ghz wireless is the best 😇
Anti Spiral
Please don't open VRchat
We may loose you 😢
VRChat is trash. It is the worse vr mechanic that is none existence and the only reason you stick on VRChat is the friends that your interested in which got nothing to do with VRChat
ARLO?!?
I think Jon is a bit too much into VR now
Doesn't your eyes or face hurt? That is my main issue whit this.
If you never plan on playing with other people, yes. But you can't share the screen with family
Haven't watch the video, but I have VR, there is no way it can replace your full set up. LMAO
Okay, there's no longer any excuse. WE NEED TO BRING BACK 3D MODES IN PC GAMES.
I'm getting a PSVR2 soon and I've got my adapter set up and ready and I've been hoping I could play 3D games through rpcs3, citra or older PC titles because of it lol. It's a shame that 3D was just treated as a fad and never really evolved or had enough traction for companies to develop better technology or more content for.
3D stereoscopic is lame. VR can easily do that better
@@toututu2993I think some games deserve to stay on screens, but would benefit from better 3d, I don't want every game I play to be fully immersive, sometimes i want just a big tv
One upside of my PC setup is I can look at it without strapping an expensive thing to my head. This is a silly premise
VR's positives far outweight negatives like uncomfotable strap, ruined face, and latency motion controllers. It can do 1,000,000,000 times more thing than a whole most expensive pc rig setup. 20 floating resizable screens that can be both curve or flat is just a tip of the iceberg of the vr capability
Expensive? A 3s is 299 with a free game….
Try moving your whole PC setup around to your living room on a whim and then back
dragged out "no"
1:52 gross! doesn't that break both bluesky and youtube's terms of service?
What was it?
God no
*I'm Incredibly Intrigued for whatever Team Valve's cooking up for the VR/Home Console Space.* 🔥 🔥 🔥 🫠 But also, I just want to play Half-Life: Alyx finally.