Could you make a video tearing the old engine down and show what you find? If i hear these prices if you know what parts needed to rebuilt the engine it might be doable.
Why would knuckle scrapers be watching WWW? Not everyone who attempts to join in the community discourse is a knuckle scraper and Wes can handle the critics as he plainly demonstrates via straight talk.
Wes's usual comments are about how great his commenters are and how much help he gets from them. I think his last video was implementing what commenters told him to do. Sure, there are a lot of big mouth know nothings, but there is also a lot of cumulative experience and knowledge.
@@WatchWesWork ah yes, shrinking and expanding bearings on something, I remember... At least yours looks like i still would eat something out of that thing. The last ones in shops I have seen I would not have touched with a 14 foot pole.
My Father passed too soon. Your videos allow me to see what he did. Thanks for having good lighting, keeping the camera still as possible. Also compared to other channels you show respect for us watching your channel and try to explain your decisions. Thanks again, I’ll watch every video you post 👍
@@ferky123 5 years / 110k miles is WAY TO SOON for a catastrophic engine failure. Sadly it looks like most people don't care that they need to get deeper and deeper into debt to replace a $50k rolling iphone every few years.
@@rrmm7566 Couldn't have said that any better. People these days have absolutely no mechanical experience. As long as the glowing lights on the radio, satellite connection, seat warmers and internet access keeps going they are happy. Nothing but a mind numbing electronic show to distract from the joy of actually looking outside the window and seeing the sights..
@@mph5896 That doesn't make it right for Hyundai to produce cars that disintegrate just outside of warranty. BTW there is a $3bn class action on these engines and Hyundai is extending warranty to 150k but it only covers damage caused by rod bearing failure, which this is likely not. So the engine seems to be exceptionally horrible and owners have to sue Hyundai for every defect separately to get them to do something about it.
Your explanation for the engine replacement was absolutely spot on and anyone in the industry knows it. I appreciate the weekend warriors out there, but it’s the weekend warriors always in the comment sections with these grand ideas of what you should or shouldn’t be doing that just isn’t based in reality of running a shop
$5300 for a USED engine is just nuts.Especially for a used HYUNDAI engine! But I guess it is what it is,and hoefully the "new" engine won't suffer the same catastrophy as the original.Good job Wes,don't worry about what the keyboard warriors say.It's your shop and you're the boss!
I've learned the same thing when working on stuff that has rust or is just old. The less bolts you touch, the better. Doesn't matter how gentle you go, something WILL break, it's almost a guarantee.
I work at an auto recycling yard in the great white north and can attest to the fact that just about any of these Hyundai/Kia 4 bangers have a high failure rate and carry a hefty price tag as a result, and they sell as fast as they come in the door.
That engine sounds quieter and smoother than a new one. You're amazing man. I see you're in my state. If you're fairly close I'd like to utilize your services for my two 2022 Tucson Hybrids once the free stuff is over in a year. Edit:Hey Wes, our local Hyundai stores have crates and crates of replacement engines in their service departments. It's scary to see literally 50 to 60 of these crates at each of the three dealerships I've been to in the last 12 months. Now I'm second guessing my decision on purchasing more new Hyundai's. Oh my what have I done?
Get rid of that junk before it blows. I'm trying to get the dealership to make good on the recall, but they are giving me hell. I have a second car, a 2001 Lexus RX300 and it's a much better car in every way imaginable
I feel like you need to have the dog do a 12point inspection before you start a video!! 😂😂😂 Get you one of those heater/ ac units to hang on the wall for comfort! Ask Diessel Creek about those!
3:30 I 100% agree with this statement. The NTSB has a saying: "There's never just one thing that brings down a plane, it's always a multitude of reasons". Words to live by.
@@davidkane4300…hyundai engines are high pressure engines, there are extreme pressures in the combustion chamber. The hole in the piston was caused by excessive heat, and you have to consider that NOBODY checks their oil. The owner didn’t check the oil, didn’t change the oil on time, and didn’t maintain the cooling system….I would put 500 bucks on it. These cars get a bad reputation because people don’t take care of their vehicles. People USED to take care of their cars in this country.
@@deplorablelibertarian they're also poorly made (poor materials, build quality, quality control, etc.), which combined with poor maintenance is a recipe for disaster. Hyundai/Kia know they built junk engines, but something in their corporate structure led them to keep it (cost vs. benefit of a newly engineered engine vs. just replacing the failures that occur before the warranty is up). Similar with the dry-clutch Ford powershift in the Fiesta/Focus/Ecosport (and probably many other non-US models)... Nearly 100% failure rate! They HAD to know during prototype testing, but unethical corporate culture forced a bad product to market. Similar to basically all diesel manufacturers cheating on emissions so they could meet power, efficiency, and emissions targets, but couldn't do all three in reality, so they cheated, hoping nobody would find out. VW was arrogant about it, and got their pee pee slapped by Uncle Sam as a warning to others. Cadillac tried doing the right thing by cancelling the V8-6-4 mid-year because it was so unreliable, but then did the wrong thing by rushing the HT4100 to market instead of reverting back to a carburetor from 1980 (or picking a BOP engine like they eventually did with the 307 and 350)...
My friend was a buyer for a Mercedes dealer in town. They also owned Kia and Hyundai stores. We would regularly haul truckloads of Theta II replacement engine pallets to use as firewood from behind the Mercedes service department. I still have a few of those handy little engine pallets.
Yep, drive my Chevelle around like an idiot until it starts knocking on friday night, off to the junkyard saturday morning for a station wagon small block for 100 bucks and back to driving like an idiot on saturday evening. Man, i miss the good old days. New things are no good. Thanks for the video Wes, the struggle is real. Best regards from Indiana.
Every year that goes by we lose another engine machine shop in our area, which has a high population. I had a conversation with the owner of one I had been using for years, a full service machine shop that did everything but grind cams, he let me know they were closing their doors. Due to the lack of interest of the younger generations, lack of parts for newer models and high cost of replacement parts, most people and shops were shopping wrecking yards.
Honestly, I would use mine more BUT it takes too long to have work done. Cant wait a month or six for work to be done. Drop in a used engine in a day, or get a dealer reman and do the same in a day.
We have an excellent machine shop here, but the building they're in is literally falling down around them, all the employees are in their 60s, and they have so much work they don't even try to keep up. Last time I had a crank ground it took 5 months. They have one guy that can do it and he's an old hippie who works when he feel like it.
You don't see any young people working in an engine machine shop. Since all the real auto parts stores are pretty well gone and replaced by big chain stores. In my area you don't go to the auto parts store without going on their website looking up your part numbers and checking their inventory to make sure it is in stock. @@WatchWesWork
We had a 2012 sorento with the 2.4L and it started smoking and using oil at 55,000 miles. Got the run around from the dealer so we got rid of it. They knew the 4 cylinders had a problem. No more kias. Cars was totally maintained by dealer.
Nice to see Kia/Hyundai still have the same problems they had back in 2008 when I worked at a Kia dealer. We had 4 nearly new Rondo up on the racks at the same time, all with speed holes in the engine block. Took forever to get the replacement motors in. Don't care how "nice" they make the insides of them or how great the financing is, the drivetrains are TRASH and they are throwaway cars.
Don't forget the ease of theft they built in to all the Kia's as well. There should be a mandated buyback of all these affected cars. Between the engines and thefts that would account for pretty much all of them on the road. VW cheated the emissions and they bought all the cars back. Hyundai/Kia should be forced to do the same..
Wes, You are a true MASTER of honesty with a clear break of how you attack a job. Thank you for always being willing to put out such informative content.
Wes, regarding your water pipe, seriously consider replacing that pvc with pex and moving it at least 2 inches or more off the wall. a room can be warm but the cold transfers right off of the wall to the pipe. I bet your wall is below freezing in these conditions even though the air temp is 50 degree or more higher, ask me how I know! Flooded kitchen and basement that's how! Oh and pex doesn't get brittle like PVC or CPVC. My whole damn house is plumbed with CPVC
I have a friend with a Kia that blew the engine. Same thing, unubtanium on those engines. They waited for for months to get the 2.4L engine and it was so expensive. I had priced doing an engine for them at around 7k. The dealer originally wanted 12!!! I told them to call the manufacturer and they were able to get KIA to cover half of it. They traded the car away pretty soon after it was repaired.
You may want to get 1/2 opening between those pipes away from that wall to create an air gap, for they don’t freeze or use some of that foam insulation that just slips onto the pipes to hold it away from the wall a little.
That handy 1/4 in thick foam insulation diameter about 3/4 inch...that has a slit along one side. I use it on the hot water pipes going out from the water heater, also as padding (with cable ties) on the chrome steel foot rests on bar stools in the basement rec room, maybe more uses
I watch Vehcor religiously and I see him whipping engines in and out seemingly effortlessly and super fast and he then says things like “that only took me an hour and a half” and I’m thinking “wtf”!? Wes’ efforts are more like my own and real world. Well, I wish I was as good as Wes!
Vehicles that a guy owns are always held together with hopes and dreams, except for the missus. For a mechanic, liability is a real worry and I can appreciate the way you approach taking care of the customer without exposing yourself to more issues. Kid is growing like a weed! I was just watching some old videos from the old shop, and a few from your current location and he’s so different! Wes: mechanic, machinist, electronic technician, tinkerer, and plumber 😂
Having spare components stored away for when you need them is a sound policy. My neighbour has 2 spare vehicles (one blown engine, body good; one rear quarter t-bone, engine and gearbox nearly new) in the back of his garage for his daily driver. Probably already recouped the price of both spares by not having to buy new/used parts for his car.
Hyundai tech apprentice here! I never seen a 2.0L NU GDI with a hole in the piston. This is a first here for me! I know these are known to start burning oil at 70k miles but I've seen some with high mileage and never used a single drop of oil. They are also known for piston/connecting rod slap. Props to you for doing this!
This car is 4 years old with 112,000 miles. The question is: "Will my 30-year-old car with 470,000 miles continue to run?" I sure would like to purchase a new Hyundai/Kia because those cars are a bit cheaper. Every time I think like that I see one of these videos. I certainly appreciate your candor and honesty making the decisions you make! GREAT VIDEO!
Don't buy a Hyundai, they are hot garbage. I am trying to get rid of mine before it blows. It consumes oil like crazy and the supposed factory recall is difficult to get because the dealership tries not to make good on them. Mine is a 16 Tucson. My second car, a 2001 Lexus RX300 is much better
For a while I thought Hyundai/Kia was on an upward trajectory after seeing how good the 2001+ Elantra was ,but they stopped using Korean-built engines, some under license from Mitsubishi, and began manufacturing engines down here in Alabama. GDI put the nail in the coffin. Seems like Honda, Toyota and Nissan have already hired the best powertrain engineers here.
It’s a bad casting from what I have been told. The original issue was hardening, they get heat treated in giant ovens with rows a rows of motors. The ones in the middle did not get heated properly and were weak…. That issue got resolved, but the next bigger issue came up.. bad castings. They are sand cast blocks, and during the cleaning process sand was left in the block… over time it brakes loose and starts traveling around the motor and boom… that’s why no one will rebuild the blocks. No one wants the liability
Nicely done sir. You guys got all the good snow. Here in NW WI we only got the cold. Though didn’t stop the DOT from dumping all the rest of the fiscal year 2023 salt on the roads!
@ItsAlwaysRusty yup. 3 days straight of snow here in the land of the football team that can't win in the playoffs, Friday night, town plows went by 7 times from 5pm, dumping salt. The end of my driveway was a big pile of mush
134 degrees F here, Great swimming in the creek or pool weather. Just don't know how you guys deal with that cold a weather. Don't get me wrong, I've been cold before up in the Hindu Kush on ops at -37C but the coldest it gets here in beautiful sunny Queensland, Australia (where I live at least) is -2C, which is considered a 'freezing' day. Plus, that's only at dawn. By 1000hrs it's 20C, Thanks for the great videos, Mrs Wes and Wes, Keep them coming.
Those 2 machine shop types were true in my old area too. Which is how I got into building OHC engines (specifically modular v8s), older guy didn't like them. He wouldn't tell you no but you would be waiting 6-9 or so months before he'd finally want to do it, so I ended up doing it.
A lot of the time they don't like something because they don't want to relearn what they've already known for years. Personally, I'd love to learn how to rebuild a modern OHC engine but I just don't have the money or a place to do it. I can't even work on my vintage air-cooled dirt bike that has nothing to it because I lack space and a place to tinker. Fighting the weather just so you can work on something ruins the fun of it.
@@Stephen.in.Virginia I'm in NY, as far north as you can possibly go before going into Canada. There isn't much around here. As nice as it sounds asking someone for space to tinker I'm not fond of that idea. I already do something similar with some of my other machines that are stored at a friends house. It doesn't always work out because I can't always go over. There's also the travel distance. Which isn't a long drive, but I'm not always in the mood to travel. I don't want to have to travel somewhere every time I want to tinker on something. I've also gotten to the point over the years where I'm getting tired of relying on others just so I can get my own stuff done. I just want to walk out my door, go into the back yard and tinker when the urge strikes. No travel, no asking for permission, no anything. A decent sized shed would be nice I just don't have the funds right now. Paying for other stuff first is more important. :)
The bent tube and broken intake would give me more confidence that this engine is good as it probably came from a wrecked car, which means it ran when it got junked. Also, an advantage of a whole engine is the warranty they usually have, however short.
I was afraid the first time you said "Its going too easy" that something was going to go wrong! Glad is didn't! Enjoyed the change out!! I know that thru Video magic, it only took you 30 mins, But I'm sure that it took longer than a day!! That is a lot of work to change an engine!! Stay warm out there!!
I felt for you about the comments you replied to. I worked in the automotive industry for about 3 years and for public agency for 29 years. Most of the time people who always know a better way are not the ones who REALLY know what/how to do what they are commenting about. You do great.
That is amazing. I have a 2008 Honda Fit with 117K. It has a bad passenger side tie rod. When I get around to replacing it, it will be the first non regular maintainence part that has ever been replaced on my car. My current battery is ten years old and still going strong. My car has only had two batteries in 15 years. That is crazy that you are having to do an engine on a nearly brand new vehicle.
That went way to well, I was expecting a sink hole to open in the floor, a roof cave in or a mystery hole in the engine block only noticed upon first start. 😂 Wow, an unexpected first time quick success. Excellent!!!!
I've been an ASE Master Tech and Field Rep for several automotive manufacturers for a few decades and I really enjoy your content and common sense approach. Keep up the great work/videos. Fun & educational!
Excellent Video! One thing that has always bothered me about Chain hoists is the tail of chain that is always a nuisance. I solved this by making a chain bucket actually a heavy canvas bag that the chain accumulates in. The challenge was attaching the bag in the proper place just under the hoist. Thank you.
The wind coming across that cornfield will affect exposed buildings like your shop. Remote corner - outside wall low down to the floor - yeah that's likely why your pipes froze.
I appreciate you addressing the comments and options at the beginning of video. It boils down for you I believe, to not wanting a come back if the engine were partially rebuild. Hopefully the customer understands that this is a dog of a design bad engine that has a more limited life. Of course, $7000 beats $37,000 for a new car.
@@WatchWesWork I was told that a situation like this is the definitive proof of the universality of Murphy's Law, that even Murphy's law is subject to itself, and that explains the rare case when things go right!
Try a 80-120 watt tube heater in washroom Some awful people were waiting to see you weld the piston, engine still in vehicle, using spark plug hole for access ! , sick SOB's have a great day man 😀
Sitting here eating chocolate pudding straight out of the fridge and feeling sorry for you there. Of course I'll have to shovel sunshine off of the driveway tomorrow. Take care, keep warm, and keep your stick on the ice. jack, In The Valley of The Sun, Arizona
Nice engine switch out, nice to have things go your way for a change. To think we almost bought one of those, oh my. Thanks for the video sir , enjoyed it. Stay warm.
I had the same thing happen to me one day on the downstairs toilet. the 3/8" feedline just magically got a pinhole in it....I heard it hissing just before I left for work for the day. very lucky.
Thanks Wes for the early video on replacing the engine on that Hyundai. I'm probably 70 to 80 mi west of you in the Cedar Rapids Iowa area and our weather has been the same. It gets brutally cold. We had snow storms back to back and I don't have a skid loader! 😅 Luckily there's a friend of mine that has a Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD 3/4 ton truck that I sold him three years ago and he has the big $6,900.00 plow that articulates in the middle to a v plow or side by side standard plow. That plow now is close to $8900.00 installed. Go back to you,Wes. Excellent job on removing that motor. We must have been mistaken because we always took the motors out the bottom and left of the body. Also that works great on Ford trucks because you can't get to anything without pulling that body up. Well keep it coming up with these good videos. Wes. I love your channel. You're funny! Great guy. If you were around here I don't have much to do so I go down there and hang out and tell you how to do things that I never ever did before. Just how we did it 50 years ago. Thanks Wes
Hi Wes ,Mrs Wes and Kiddo plus Max. Great job well done, it was the Beautiful Assistant that made the difference.Many thanks from a not so snowy Liverpool UK.
That was surprisingly painless. I've frequently heard that while problems persist with the H/K twins, working on them compared to other manufacturers is a dream. My mechanic loves mine, especially compared to some of the nightmares out there.
I would have either plastic welded or used a solvent weld on that plastic tab, depending on the type of plastic.. If it was an ABS or PVC part, that pipe cement you used at the end would have worked fine. If it was a PP or PE part, then melting the plastic back together and maybe a metal staple or two would have been the thing.. I find epoxy to be much less of a wonder adhesive than most people think it is.. Epoxies need a rough surface to grab and they don't tolerate heat very well, and if the part was PP or PE, epoxy will just pop off with minor force as those materials are difficult to bond due to their chemical make up.. If you do have to use an epoxy, I've had the best luck with the original JB Weld, but even it won't bond well to a lot of plastics even with roughening and heat treatment and primers.. You probably have a cold air leak somewhere near the floor in the bathroom.. If you have a thermal camera it should be pretty obvious where it's coming from: a stream of -25 cold air blowing over a water pipe will still freeze it, even if the rest of the room is heated..
eh, like Wes said that engine probably doomed to suffer the same fate as the first one. a slightly janky repaired tab on an engine living on borrowed time is least of owners worries
@@harveylong5878 If the broken part leads to an air leak that can lean out the mixture and burn another piston...would be worth watching closely if that was the initial fault...seems that the cracked intake was the #2 one... 🤔🧐👍
@@harveylong5878 True, but I'm a bit of an adhesives nerd.. In any case, if it were me, I would have just taken a soldering iron to the first intake and melted the crack back together..
Wes, I can't imagine these types of videos are not getting less than 10M views a day. I absolutely love them. Thanks for showing us consumers and other mechanics how it is done. You and your family are the best!
Hi Wes, Dan from Ontario Canada here. You probably already know about this, but up in cottage country we used to leave the taps dripping so they wouldn't freeze overnight. I still do all my own wrenching, bikes, cars and truck. Enjoy watching you work now that I'm 78 yo.
Thanks again to the crazy people who help make these videos! You can join them here: www.patreon.com/WatchWesWork
This definitely could have been 2 separate videos 👍
Enjoyed learning something new about that engine mount bracket
if you look in the glove box, theres a tube of jb weld.. for the piston.. ect. ect...factoree
Could you make a video tearing the old engine down and show what you find? If i hear these prices if you know what parts needed to rebuilt the engine it might be doable.
Hi, do yer think it was easier with it being an automatic as it looks like there was bit more clearance not having the manuals clutch cover housing!?
Put insulation on all your pipes that is not in the wall it's cheap and you don't have to do s*** like you doing
The vast majority of us here understand that you know what you're doing more than the keyboard knuckle-scrapers. Keep up the good work, Wes.
Cannot stand the scrapers.
Why would knuckle scrapers be watching WWW? Not everyone who attempts to join in the community discourse is a knuckle scraper and Wes can handle the critics as he plainly demonstrates via straight talk.
@@knuckledragger4648 I see what you did there. Funny.
I resemble that comment.
Wes's usual comments are about how great his commenters are and how much help he gets from them. I think his last video was implementing what commenters told him to do.
Sure, there are a lot of big mouth know nothings, but there is also a lot of cumulative experience and knowledge.
The bathroom design is genius. You can reach the mini fridge for a beer, the toaster oven for pizza, while on the toilet. Multitasking at its finest.
Those are shop tools.
@WatchWesWork is just another reason I'm in awe. I'm making modifications in the home shop asap.
@@WatchWesWork ah yes, shrinking and expanding bearings on something, I remember...
At least yours looks like i still would eat something out of that thing. The last ones in shops I have seen I would not have touched with a 14 foot pole.
Eeeeww! Lol!
We even got bonus plumbing content?! This channel is peak quality!
It's peak something...
@@WatchWesWork great channel. one of the best watches on the site.
If you use the blue pvc glue,It cures in 15mins. Not 2hrs.
Man an engine swap with no hiccups plus a bonus plumbing part is awesome. Great vid again 💯
Just got to that part. I also somehow like a bit of plumbing side content, dunno why, maybe it's just anything Wes does.
My Father passed too soon. Your videos allow me to see what he did.
Thanks for having good lighting, keeping the camera still as possible.
Also compared to other channels you show respect for us watching your channel and try to explain your decisions.
Thanks again, I’ll watch every video you post 👍
Father's always pass away too soon. Mine passed away in 2021 at a not-so-old age of 70. Every time I open something up, miss my old man.
Absolutely mind-boggling that 2019 needs a new motor and it's not covered by warranty
That's 5 years ago.
@@ferky123 5 years / 110k miles is WAY TO SOON for a catastrophic engine failure. Sadly it looks like most people don't care that they need to get deeper and deeper into debt to replace a $50k rolling iphone every few years.
The owner has to purchase a warranty for it to be covered by warranty. Its over 100k
@@rrmm7566 Couldn't have said that any better. People these days have absolutely no mechanical experience. As long as the glowing lights on the radio, satellite connection, seat warmers and internet access keeps going they are happy. Nothing but a mind numbing electronic show to distract from the joy of actually looking outside the window and seeing the sights..
@@mph5896 That doesn't make it right for Hyundai to produce cars that disintegrate just outside of warranty. BTW there is a $3bn class action on these engines and Hyundai is extending warranty to 150k but it only covers damage caused by rod bearing failure, which this is likely not. So the engine seems to be exceptionally horrible and owners have to sue Hyundai for every defect separately to get them to do something about it.
The owners need to keep the paperwork for this engine swap. If Hyundai eventually has a recall on this engine they should be able to get reimbursed.
They already do 😂 on there 4cly there horrible vheicles and hold no resale value there v6 are fine tho
But if it wasn't done at a Dealer, I would expect Hyundai to tell them to pound sand.
Love how your wife always pitches in to help you out. She's a keeper!!
Always. LOL.
If wife doesn't help, you will not keep her?
She does not watch wes work
I really admire your patience, not only with the mechanical stuff but also with the clowns who think they know better than the next guy.
I hope they have an extended warranty from that guy that calls me every day
They're probably pre-emptively exiting the business in anticipation of all the no-warranty Hyundai claims coming in.
Your explanation for the engine replacement was absolutely spot on and anyone in the industry knows it. I appreciate the weekend warriors out there, but it’s the weekend warriors always in the comment sections with these grand ideas of what you should or shouldn’t be doing that just isn’t based in reality of running a shop
They watch other people work on cars….and then all the sudden, they are experts.
Ideas can be fun tho
You're my husband Dave's favorite channel..he loved the title of the video. Dave had a heart transplant 12 years ago!
"It seems almost too easy" - almost like they knew the engine design was junk and they'd be replacing thousands of them!
Had to sit through a Hyundai commercial at the start of this video. Thought that was pretty ironic!
Having your spouse help you remove the hood in the opening clip proves she has your back and is a keeper.
Won`t be long before Kiddo can step up to that role. Disappointed that Max isn`t a bit more helpful around there, aside from locating rodents.
$5300 for a USED engine is just nuts.Especially for a used HYUNDAI engine! But I guess it is what it is,and hoefully the "new" engine won't suffer the same catastrophy as the original.Good job Wes,don't worry about what the keyboard warriors say.It's your shop and you're the boss!
I've learned the same thing when working on stuff that has rust or is just old. The less bolts you touch, the better. Doesn't matter how gentle you go, something WILL break, it's almost a guarantee.
Who else thought the hood was going into the windshield at the beginning... LOL! 0:20
I work at an auto recycling yard in the great white north and can attest to the fact that just about any of these Hyundai/Kia 4 bangers have a high failure rate and carry a hefty price tag as a result, and they sell as fast as they come in the door.
What else does Hyundai put this engine in??
That engine sounds quieter and smoother than a new one. You're amazing man. I see you're in my state. If you're fairly close I'd like to utilize your services for my two 2022 Tucson Hybrids once the free stuff is over in a year. Edit:Hey Wes, our local Hyundai stores have crates and crates of replacement engines in their service departments. It's scary to see literally 50 to 60 of these crates at each of the three dealerships I've been to in the last 12 months. Now I'm second guessing my decision on purchasing more new Hyundai's. Oh my what have I done?
Get rid of that junk before it blows. I'm trying to get the dealership to make good on the recall, but they are giving me hell. I have a second car, a 2001 Lexus RX300 and it's a much better car in every way imaginable
I feel like you need to have the dog do a 12point inspection before you start a video!! 😂😂😂 Get you one of those heater/ ac units to hang on the wall for comfort! Ask Diessel Creek about those!
What we need is a short cut together of Wes dropping things and saying "really" :)
"Well, that's gone forever..." I felt that one deep in my bones.
He says "really" but we all know the word he says in his mind
How long has he been on youtube? Be a two-hour special episode. :D
@@mphilleostill not sure if he was saying good bye to a fastener or the 10mm socket he was using to remove said fastener 😂
My favorite Wes phase is "Got It" 👍👍🤣👍👍
3:30 I 100% agree with this statement. The NTSB has a saying: "There's never just one thing that brings down a plane, it's always a multitude of reasons". Words to live by.
100%... The hole in the piston could be a symptom, not the cause.
Side affect because of the fact!
@@davidkane4300…hyundai engines are high pressure engines, there are extreme pressures in the combustion chamber. The hole in the piston was caused by excessive heat, and you have to consider that NOBODY checks their oil. The owner didn’t check the oil, didn’t change the oil on time, and didn’t maintain the cooling system….I would put 500 bucks on it. These cars get a bad reputation because people don’t take care of their vehicles. People USED to take care of their cars in this country.
People don’t take care of their cars anymore….
@@deplorablelibertarian they're also poorly made (poor materials, build quality, quality control, etc.), which combined with poor maintenance is a recipe for disaster. Hyundai/Kia know they built junk engines, but something in their corporate structure led them to keep it (cost vs. benefit of a newly engineered engine vs. just replacing the failures that occur before the warranty is up). Similar with the dry-clutch Ford powershift in the Fiesta/Focus/Ecosport (and probably many other non-US models)... Nearly 100% failure rate! They HAD to know during prototype testing, but unethical corporate culture forced a bad product to market. Similar to basically all diesel manufacturers cheating on emissions so they could meet power, efficiency, and emissions targets, but couldn't do all three in reality, so they cheated, hoping nobody would find out. VW was arrogant about it, and got their pee pee slapped by Uncle Sam as a warning to others. Cadillac tried doing the right thing by cancelling the V8-6-4 mid-year because it was so unreliable, but then did the wrong thing by rushing the HT4100 to market instead of reverting back to a carburetor from 1980 (or picking a BOP engine like they eventually did with the 307 and 350)...
My friend was a buyer for a Mercedes dealer in town. They also owned Kia and Hyundai stores. We would regularly haul truckloads of Theta II replacement engine pallets to use as firewood from behind the Mercedes service department. I still have a few of those handy little engine pallets.
Your son climbing the snow pile, ah the memories.
KING of the MOUNTAIN !
Yep, drive my Chevelle around like an idiot until it starts knocking on friday night, off to the junkyard saturday morning for a station wagon small block for 100 bucks and back to driving like an idiot on saturday evening. Man, i miss the good old days. New things are no good. Thanks for the video Wes, the struggle is real.
Best regards from Indiana.
That’s why I keep my old rigs alive! Society needs to move back to the way it was. A lot less waste when parts are interchangeable!!
It was too easy for the average joe to own whatever they wanted. The elites can't allow that
Every year that goes by we lose another engine machine shop in our area, which has a high population. I had a conversation with the owner of one I had been using for years, a full service machine shop that did everything but grind cams, he let me know they were closing their doors. Due to the lack of interest of the younger generations, lack of parts for newer models and high cost of replacement parts, most people and shops were shopping wrecking yards.
Honestly, I would use mine more BUT it takes too long to have work done. Cant wait a month or six for work to be done. Drop in a used engine in a day, or get a dealer reman and do the same in a day.
We have an excellent machine shop here, but the building they're in is literally falling down around them, all the employees are in their 60s, and they have so much work they don't even try to keep up. Last time I had a crank ground it took 5 months. They have one guy that can do it and he's an old hippie who works when he feel like it.
You don't see any young people working in an engine machine shop. Since all the real auto parts stores are pretty well gone and replaced by big chain stores. In my area you don't go to the auto parts store without going on their website looking up your part numbers and checking their inventory to make sure it is in stock. @@WatchWesWork
We had a 2012 sorento with the 2.4L and it started smoking and using oil at 55,000 miles. Got the run around from the dealer so we got rid of it. They knew the 4 cylinders had a problem. No more kias. Cars was totally maintained by dealer.
Nice to see Kia/Hyundai still have the same problems they had back in 2008 when I worked at a Kia dealer. We had 4 nearly new Rondo up on the racks at the same time, all with speed holes in the engine block. Took forever to get the replacement motors in. Don't care how "nice" they make the insides of them or how great the financing is, the drivetrains are TRASH and they are throwaway cars.
Don't forget the ease of theft they built in to all the Kia's as well. There should be a mandated buyback of all these affected cars. Between the engines and thefts that would account for pretty much all of them on the road. VW cheated the emissions and they bought all the cars back. Hyundai/Kia should be forced to do the same..
Wes, You are a true MASTER of honesty with a clear break of how you attack a job. Thank you for always being willing to put out such informative content.
Wes, regarding your water pipe, seriously consider replacing that pvc with pex and moving it at least 2 inches or more off the wall. a room can be warm but the cold transfers right off of the wall to the pipe. I bet your wall is below freezing in these conditions even though the air temp is 50 degree or more higher, ask me how I know! Flooded kitchen and basement that's how! Oh and pex doesn't get brittle like PVC or CPVC. My whole damn house is plumbed with CPVC
freezing cold and your little dude is playing king of the snow mountain. awesome!
Wes, it's a good thing you felt that replacement was so easy, because I suspect you'll have plenty more of them in your future.
I have a friend with a Kia that blew the engine. Same thing, unubtanium on those engines. They waited for for months to get the 2.4L engine and it was so expensive. I had priced doing an engine for them at around 7k. The dealer originally wanted 12!!! I told them to call the manufacturer and they were able to get KIA to cover half of it. They traded the car away pretty soon after it was repaired.
$12k? That's insane! I could make an engine from scratch for $12k.
@@WatchWesWork Should 100% make a video
And people say German manufactures are unreliable.
Friends don't let friends drive Kias. 😂.
Friends don't let friends drive ANYTHING that's not a US brand.
I always love the family stuff at the end of your videos. The dog with the sweater was priceless.
Max won't be able to do his ASPCA commercials while he's wearing his coat. At least he's finally having fun!
Not bad Wes. An entire engine swap in 30 minutes!
You may want to get 1/2 opening between those pipes away from that wall to create an air gap, for they don’t freeze or use some of that foam insulation that just slips onto the pipes to hold it away from the wall a little.
That handy 1/4 in thick foam insulation diameter about 3/4 inch...that has a slit along one side. I use it on the hot water pipes going out from the water heater, also as padding (with cable ties) on the chrome steel foot rests on bar stools in the basement rec room, maybe more uses
I watch Vehcor religiously and I see him whipping engines in and out seemingly effortlessly and super fast and he then says things like “that only took me an hour and a half” and I’m thinking “wtf”!? Wes’ efforts are more like my own and real world. Well, I wish I was as good as Wes!
Vehicles that a guy owns are always held together with hopes and dreams, except for the missus.
For a mechanic, liability is a real worry and I can appreciate the way you approach taking care of the customer without exposing yourself to more issues.
Kid is growing like a weed! I was just watching some old videos from the old shop, and a few from your current location and he’s so different!
Wes: mechanic, machinist, electronic technician, tinkerer, and plumber 😂
I approve of measuring snow in Volkswagen units.
@Mrs Wes 's expression seems to mirror mine about how "wonderful" snow is 🙂
I own a 2.4 KIA, I will be on the lookout for a used engine out of a wreck, to put on the shelf as a spare for when the time comes.
I would just get rid of it while it still runs lol
Having spare components stored away for when you need them is a sound policy. My neighbour has 2 spare vehicles (one blown engine, body good; one rear quarter t-bone, engine and gearbox nearly new) in the back of his garage for his daily driver. Probably already recouped the price of both spares by not having to buy new/used parts for his car.
Hyundai tech apprentice here! I never seen a 2.0L NU GDI with a hole in the piston. This is a first here for me! I know these are known to start burning oil at 70k miles but I've seen some with high mileage and never used a single drop of oil. They are also known for piston/connecting rod slap. Props to you for doing this!
This car is 4 years old with 112,000 miles. The question is: "Will my 30-year-old car with 470,000 miles continue to run?" I sure would like to purchase a new Hyundai/Kia because those cars are a bit cheaper. Every time I think like that I see one of these videos. I certainly appreciate your candor and honesty making the decisions you make! GREAT VIDEO!
Don't buy a Hyundai, they are hot garbage. I am trying to get rid of mine before it blows. It consumes oil like crazy and the supposed factory recall is difficult to get because the dealership tries not to make good on them. Mine is a 16 Tucson. My second car, a 2001 Lexus RX300 is much better
That snow rainbow is called a sun dog in Winnipeg
Correct!
I watch to learn things, not boost my ego by commenting that I know more than you, who does this everyday. Keep on providing your videos.
The amazing thing is it costs only 5% more to engineer/build the engine to last 200k without a hiccup. I blame accounting.
7:27 For a good two seconds I really thought "What kind of rodent chewed through a PISTON!?!?!"
For a while I thought Hyundai/Kia was on an upward trajectory after seeing how good the 2001+ Elantra was ,but they stopped using Korean-built engines, some under license from Mitsubishi, and began manufacturing engines down here in Alabama. GDI put the nail in the coffin. Seems like Honda, Toyota and Nissan have already hired the best powertrain engineers here.
It’s a bad casting from what I have been told. The original issue was hardening, they get heat treated in giant ovens with rows a rows of motors. The ones in the middle did not get heated properly and were weak…. That issue got resolved, but the next bigger issue came up.. bad castings. They are sand cast blocks, and during the cleaning process sand was left in the block… over time it brakes loose and starts traveling around the motor and boom… that’s why no one will rebuild the blocks. No one wants the liability
The crazy thing is: a pre-2010 Hyundai/Kia would be more reliable than the post 2010s.
Nicely done sir. You guys got all the good snow. Here in NW WI we only got the cold. Though didn’t stop the DOT from dumping all the rest of the fiscal year 2023 salt on the roads!
I think they sent some of the salt down here.
Upstate NY doesn't shy away from turning the roads into the Bonneville salt flats either. I think I can actually hear my truck rusting away.
@@ItsAlwaysRustytry upper Michigan...😂
@ItsAlwaysRusty yup. 3 days straight of snow here in the land of the football team that can't win in the playoffs, Friday night, town plows went by 7 times from 5pm, dumping salt. The end of my driveway was a big pile of mush
WHAT?!!! No primer on that pipe FIRST?!!!
YOU'RE FIRED !!! 😂😂😂
134 degrees F here, Great swimming in the creek or pool weather. Just don't know how you guys deal with that cold a weather. Don't get me wrong, I've been cold before up in the Hindu Kush on ops at -37C but the coldest it gets here in beautiful sunny Queensland, Australia (where I live at least) is -2C, which is considered a 'freezing' day. Plus, that's only at dawn. By 1000hrs it's 20C,
Thanks for the great videos, Mrs Wes and Wes, Keep them coming.
Those 2 machine shop types were true in my old area too. Which is how I got into building OHC engines (specifically modular v8s), older guy didn't like them. He wouldn't tell you no but you would be waiting 6-9 or so months before he'd finally want to do it, so I ended up doing it.
I wish we had a guy like you in my area. We used to but he retired a few years ago and no one took over.
A lot of the time they don't like something because they don't want to relearn what they've already known for years. Personally, I'd love to learn how to rebuild a modern OHC engine but I just don't have the money or a place to do it. I can't even work on my vintage air-cooled dirt bike that has nothing to it because I lack space and a place to tinker. Fighting the weather just so you can work on something ruins the fun of it.
@@Slane583 What state are you in ? Maybe someone there is a hobby guy and can get you some garage / shop space
@@Stephen.in.Virginia I'm in NY, as far north as you can possibly go before going into Canada. There isn't much around here. As nice as it sounds asking someone for space to tinker I'm not fond of that idea.
I already do something similar with some of my other machines that are stored at a friends house. It doesn't always work out because I can't always go over. There's also the travel distance.
Which isn't a long drive, but I'm not always in the mood to travel. I don't want to have to travel somewhere every time I want to tinker on something.
I've also gotten to the point over the years where I'm getting tired of relying on others just so I can get my own stuff done. I just want to walk out my door, go into the back yard and tinker when the urge strikes. No travel, no asking for permission, no anything. A decent sized shed would be nice I just don't have the funds right now.
Paying for other stuff first is more important. :)
@@Slane583
I feel your pain!
The bent tube and broken intake would give me more confidence that this engine is good as it probably came from a wrecked car, which means it ran when it got junked. Also, an advantage of a whole engine is the warranty they usually have, however short.
It had a pretty decent oil filter on it as well. Not a $2 quick lube or dealer cheapie.
I was afraid the first time you said "Its going too easy" that something was going to go wrong! Glad is didn't! Enjoyed the change out!! I know that thru Video magic, it only took you 30 mins, But I'm sure that it took longer than a day!! That is a lot of work to change an engine!! Stay warm out there!!
I felt for you about the comments you replied to. I worked in the automotive industry for about 3 years and for public agency for 29 years. Most of the time people who always know a better way are not the ones who REALLY know what/how to do what they are commenting about. You do great.
21:20 Gulp Gulp @ the coolant reservoir 😂
You have a tendancy to find a smarter way of fixing all sorts of things.
That engine swap was just great.
Greetings from one of your Patreons.
"So that's your problem, lady" - the mice have chewed through the piston. All you need is Max! No, just kidding... Keep up the good work!
That is amazing. I have a 2008 Honda Fit with 117K. It has a bad passenger side tie rod. When I get around to replacing it, it will be the first non regular maintainence part that has ever been replaced on my car. My current battery is ten years old and still going strong. My car has only had two batteries in 15 years. That is crazy that you are having to do an engine on a nearly brand new vehicle.
Aw i really wanted to see what that piston looked like out of the engine... Still a fun adventure! Much easier on a newer car without all the rust.
He probably has to turn in the core.
Should ship it to Eric at IDoCars
Yes!
Cheers to the white knuckle hood removal service!!! Nice work, Wes. You made that look easy. Pex piping tolerates freezing better and is easy to do.
Yep! That’s why I ran PEX in my shop…
I figured a windshield was going to be purchased on that one. I am on my own with the hoods, ate 1 windshield.
Get a drywall lift...
Plot twist: Rodents can destroy Pex😂
🤣🤣🤣@@bearpoik
That went way to well, I was expecting a sink hole to open in the floor, a roof cave in or a mystery hole in the engine block only noticed upon first start. 😂 Wow, an unexpected first time quick success. Excellent!!!!
I've been an ASE Master Tech and Field Rep for several automotive manufacturers for a few decades and I really enjoy your content and common sense approach.
Keep up the great work/videos.
Fun & educational!
Excellent Video! One thing that has always bothered me about Chain hoists is the tail of chain that is always a nuisance. I solved this by making a chain bucket actually a heavy canvas bag that the chain accumulates in. The challenge was attaching the bag in the proper place just under the hoist. Thank you.
Dude half these people have no clue you know this. Keep on wrenching wes your a superb mechanic and your skills prove that every time
And a bonus plumbing fix. Now you’re just showing off. 😂
Give yourself credit, Wes. You make everything seem easy. Don't lose any sleep over that wire. It's just a gremlin. ❤
I would have pulled the engine through the glove box 🤣nice job Wes
The wind coming across that cornfield will affect exposed buildings like your shop. Remote corner - outside wall low down to the floor - yeah that's likely why your pipes froze.
Having grown up in WI, I can actually hear how cold it is by the way the snow crunches. Don't miss that.
Also, good to see your partnership with Hufflepuff Wreckage and Towing is still active.
I appreciate you addressing the comments and options at the beginning of video. It boils down for you I believe, to not wanting a come back if the engine were partially rebuild. Hopefully the customer understands that this is a dog of a design bad engine that has a more limited life. Of course, $7000 beats $37,000 for a new car.
That looked easier than I thought. Your son has grown up so much fast 💨
Wes, I'm thinking a mouse chewed a hole in that piston.😊
You can tell it's cold by the sound of your foot steps
I agree with your wife, I’m over the cold and snow also. Headed for a January thaw this week, yeahhh. Stay safe and warm. Love the blanket on Max.
It's so funny how we get so nervous and paranoid, when things actually go smoothly! It almost seems less stressful with occasional obstacles.
It's just so unusual.
@@WatchWesWork I was told that a situation like this is the definitive proof of the universality of Murphy's Law, that even Murphy's law is subject to itself, and that explains the rare case when things go right!
Not sure why you asked Mrs. Wes, when you had the gantry crane to remove the hood! LOL
She's easier to push around.
Try a 80-120 watt tube heater in washroom
Some awful people were waiting to see you weld the piston, engine still in vehicle, using spark plug hole for access ! , sick SOB's have a great day man 😀
Probably just came off of the new old engine. 👍👍👍😁
Sitting here eating chocolate pudding straight out of the fridge and feeling sorry for you there. Of course I'll have to shovel sunshine off of the driveway tomorrow.
Take care, keep warm, and keep your stick on the ice.
jack, In The Valley of The Sun, Arizona
Nice engine switch out, nice to have things go your way for a change. To think we almost bought one of those, oh my. Thanks for the video sir , enjoyed it. Stay warm.
I had the same thing happen to me one day on the downstairs toilet. the 3/8" feedline just magically got a pinhole in it....I heard it hissing just before I left for work for the day. very lucky.
Thanks Wes for the early video on replacing the engine on that Hyundai. I'm probably 70 to 80 mi west of you in the Cedar Rapids Iowa area and our weather has been the same. It gets brutally cold. We had snow storms back to back and I don't have a skid loader! 😅 Luckily there's a friend of mine that has a Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD 3/4 ton truck that I sold him three years ago and he has the big $6,900.00 plow that articulates in the middle to a v plow or side by side standard plow. That plow now is close to $8900.00 installed.
Go back to you,Wes. Excellent job on removing that motor. We must have been mistaken because we always took the motors out the bottom and left of the body. Also that works great on Ford trucks because you can't get to anything without pulling that body up. Well keep it coming up with these good videos. Wes. I love your channel. You're funny! Great guy. If you were around here I don't have much to do so I go down there and hang out and tell you how to do things that I never ever did before. Just how we did it 50 years ago. Thanks Wes
You’re absolutely right about everything . A true good mechanic’s reasoning. Those who doesn’t agree, don’t know anything about repairing cars…
If the customer does not want the original engine back, an biopsy to see all the damage you will find on the engine a nice bonus episode to watch.
Hi Wes ,Mrs Wes and Kiddo plus Max. Great job well done, it was the Beautiful Assistant that made the difference.Many thanks from a not so snowy Liverpool UK.
Playing king of the mountain on snow is the best. Great video start to finish.
Wife lifting the hood and disconnecting the support at the same time 💪
This is the type of video that I think most of your viewers enjoy. I sure enjoyed it. Thanks 😊
That was surprisingly painless. I've frequently heard that while problems persist with the H/K twins, working on them compared to other manufacturers is a dream. My mechanic loves mine, especially compared to some of the nightmares out there.
I would have either plastic welded or used a solvent weld on that plastic tab, depending on the type of plastic.. If it was an ABS or PVC part, that pipe cement you used at the end would have worked fine. If it was a PP or PE part, then melting the plastic back together and maybe a metal staple or two would have been the thing.. I find epoxy to be much less of a wonder adhesive than most people think it is.. Epoxies need a rough surface to grab and they don't tolerate heat very well, and if the part was PP or PE, epoxy will just pop off with minor force as those materials are difficult to bond due to their chemical make up.. If you do have to use an epoxy, I've had the best luck with the original JB Weld, but even it won't bond well to a lot of plastics even with roughening and heat treatment and primers..
You probably have a cold air leak somewhere near the floor in the bathroom.. If you have a thermal camera it should be pretty obvious where it's coming from: a stream of -25 cold air blowing over a water pipe will still freeze it, even if the rest of the room is heated..
eh, like Wes said that engine probably doomed to suffer the same fate as the first one. a slightly janky repaired tab on an engine living on borrowed time is least of owners worries
@@harveylong5878 If the broken part leads to an air leak that can lean out the mixture and burn another piston...would be worth watching closely if that was the initial fault...seems that the cracked intake was the #2 one...
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@@harveylong5878 True, but I'm a bit of an adhesives nerd.. In any case, if it were me, I would have just taken a soldering iron to the first intake and melted the crack back together..
Typically the plastic inlet manifolds are a glass filled polymer, either polyamide or polypropylene.
@@Flying0Dismountit was missing the pin to secure the cover
The mystery wiring fragment made me smile.
Wes, I can't imagine these types of videos are not getting less than 10M views a day. I absolutely love them. Thanks for showing us consumers and other mechanics how it is done. You and your family are the best!
Excellent mechanical work, videography and editing. I think we call your snow rainbow, a sun dog in MN.
came to say the same thing
there will be a pair of sundogs, one to each side of the sun, caused by refraction through fine ice crystals in the air
Not so typical midwest winter. 50's and raining on Christmas and -20 and blizzard 2 weeks later.
Hi Wes, Dan from Ontario Canada here. You probably already know about this, but up in cottage country we used to leave the taps dripping so they wouldn't freeze overnight. I still do all my own wrenching, bikes, cars and truck. Enjoy watching you work now that I'm 78 yo.
Wes always has an assortment of activities to work on, I never miss a show. I love it!
14:29 learned something new... thought it was just another engine mount bracket 😅