Did I Blow up My Cheap Skid Steer? - Thomas 173HL Won't Rev up, Leaking Cylinder - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2023
- We figure out why the Kubota V2203 will no rev all the way up. We rebuild the boom cylinder. We rebuild the steering linkages. We replace the auxiliary couplers. Then we look at the other issues with this machine.
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Runaway diesels are no fun .. My Cat 3406 ran away running off the oil feed line from the turbo when the turbo blew.. Chewed up the crank, out of frame/overhaul, $10,000 dollar lesson .. I don't recomend it. It was screaming with rpms ... thought schrapnel was fixing to come through the block.
I live up in SW WIsconsin so if you need me to pick anything up 'round here lemme know.
How do you have weeds in your driveway? Whip your kid into shape. Little kids are great for grabbing weeds because they're closer to the ground.
I guess I'm confused about Kubota dealers. I thought we had Rexco here in the quad cities as a full line dealer
Thanks for the tool listings. Great video as always.
It’s like watching South Main Auto, Rainman Ray, Andrew Camarata and Cutting Edge Engineering all rolled into one…
I dunno if that is good or bad.
@@WatchWesWork it is what it is, you'll just have to live with it 😁
This channel is my favorite. But all those you listed are great too. I only recently found Cutting Edge though and he definitely has some skills!
Cutting edge is a Machinist wizard.
don’t forget diesel creek
Anyone else catch the little bug crawling across the floor when Wes set the camera down. Wes is off camera fighting for his life and the bug is just out for a stroll...😂
One thing I love about your videos is that you make mistakes (like all of us do). Then you explain what happened and how your fix the issues. That is very helpful to all of us. You could easily just leave mistakes out, then just record the corrects stuff. Mistakes make the videos more realistic and educational for us.
If I edit out the mistake the videos would be 2 minutes long.
Look at the bright side during your full fuel. It didnt drive forward and try to crush you between the lift, the door, and the wall.
I thought that as well :)
Are you referring to the Pontiac Vibe video? That one was quite the encounter. If you don't know about that video,sorry for the reply?
Yes that would be the reference.
Wes reminds us every once in a while that no matter how precise and methodical we all try to be, a kick in the nuts is the end result
I thought to myself as Wes lowered the safety bar that this might not end well.
@@andrewmantle7627 Sometime repetitions are needed to learn 🤷♂
You look happier, Wes. Whatever changes you did in your life/shop sure shows through your emotions.
he quit working for a living. i'll be happier too when I can quit.
he got a side piece 🤭
Being a full time utuber is anything else than easy! It's a ton of work.
@@Chr.U.Cas2216 Still got to be easier than being a full time YTer AND work a full time job.
Dear @@dfross87
Almost all people simply don't get it. It's work what is shown plus the big effort of filming the steps. Absolutely any work will therefore take 2 to 4 times longer than usual. Then the data must be put into the computer and the video has to be edited. Especially that is a lot of work. Afterwards the data has to be uploaded.
Best regards, luck, health and wisdom.
There's some kind of Twisted Irony in getting satisfaction out of watching something that is broken get fixed only to hope there's more broken things to watch get fixed again. hope you're doing well, Wes. 🙂
Also, by some miracle, Wes managed to not bump the controls and spray gallons of hydraulic oil all over the shop while the cylinder was off.
LOL I call that level of brokenness.
That little bug running towards danger is my spirit animal.
These old machines are tired, but not ready to give up. The Kubota couldn't have found a better home. Thanks for keeping her alive!
The man, the myth, the legend, and one of his favorite UA-camrs.
Sorry I'm late
Keep a Co2 fire extinguisher around for a diesel runaway. A blast into the intake will shut it right down.
Never heard of that one before but it makes sense👍
Good call!!!!!
On the same line of thinking, but much, much cheaper than having to pay for an extinguisher refill or replacement, CO2 cartridges (like those for pellet guns) put out a large volume from a small cylinder for pocket change versus 20-30 bucks plus time and travel for a refill.
I have never thought about that but it should work
But you will have to be very careful doing that, as a CO2 fire extinguisher mades dry ice particles that can puncture the air filter, get into the cylinders and do damage. Then again even mere seconds of runaway rpm can and will cause some damage even though you might not be able to feel or hear it, the rods are likely ever so slightly bent, the bearing shells will be hammered slightly oblong and the high rpm vibration may well have stretched/shaken the rod cap bolts loose.
If it was my machine, i'd have to yoink the engine out, take the pan off and inspect all that just for peace of mind, but that could just be due to my autism asperger diagnosis.
The bug scurrying while you fought the runaway. Art.
Nothing can stop this man. Total hero who never gives up. Respect from an old guy.
Ditto, from another old guy
Yep the old guy convention has set in motion .
Broaching? Form a funnel? Thread file? Who knew! Always learning stuff here. I can’t wait to tell one a my buddies LOOKS LIKE YA NEED TO BROACH A NEW KEYWAY. They’ll surely be impressed.
You're by far the best subscription I have on here. No advertising, straight to the point no nonsense, good dry humor, and fix stuff the most would. And if you make a mistake, you admit it and move forward.
I love rebuilding things instead of completely replacing I love seeing how stuff is built.
The terrible quality of parts these days has really resulted in a renaissance for rebuilding components.
It's the gratification of taking something that doesn't run/ function/ operate right or at all, that makes you feel excited? Right? Been there, still there, a little, but I'm getting too old for big projects, like Wes....
The videos never disappoint, Wes is one hell of mechanic he knows something about everything, keep it up man your an inspiration!!!
Seconded this guy is awesome
I wish he lived next door to me.😉
Always interesting to Watch Wes Work. Just remember, if things never break, wear out, leak, waddle too big, you wouldn't have a job. So while these things do happen, and always will, you will forever, or as long as want too, have a job. And therefore we get to see you do your job and learn... You seem to have an ability to post repairable videos AND a sense of humor at the same time. Thumbs Up!
Not sure if you fully grasp how amazing you are to a layman like me. Watching you work just blows my mind sometimes. "You're a wizard, Harry" 😁
nice one. good to see max walking around with less limp too
We've been running 2 miles every day.
Fine job West taking care of Thomas SlobCat.! 😊 29:15
You did a great job on that Wes !
I have to say, being a machinist with a lathe sure helps out a lot. Looking forward to part 3.
It is always amazing to see how you can get complicated jobs working again with relatively simple means. A new part here or there, but still largely using the knowledge and craftsmanship that you have acquired over the years. Admirable and respected for that. For me, it's great to watch. Wesley.
I enjoyed you admittance of borrowing friends and families attachments, lol.
When I saw the Form a funnel, I was like "hey, I have one of those," then I remembered that your videos turned me onto them! They're great for oddball circumstances.
loving this series so far. What i appreciate the most is Wes openly shares his "happy accidents" so we all get to learn. Thanks for sharing.
I used to work, in a former life, in an industrial maintenance shop. Without sounding strange. Astro Glide was made for the space program to lubricant O-rings. Kept a bottle in my tool box. Also to keep junk out of any hole, like the hydraulic stuff I use the foam earplugs, they work great for paint prep as well. Plus super easy to remove and dirt cheep as well. Always educational and entertaining. Thank you. 👍👍👍
Wes who needs box sets when we've got Wes and Co regards from Scotland
Keep doing skid steer revivals. You'll get tons of views.
It is always a great feeling when repairing something, that you return it to the way it was built . Having the technical ability and curiosity to be able to think outside of the box to find the parts or fabricate them always helps .
Enjoy the videos very much!
Really appreciate the self reflection to figure out what went wrong. Too many people blame someone or thing else instead of finding out what they could do better with.
Thomas used to make the skid steers for Ford back when Ford was into construction equipment.
"They say there is always one out there that will buy it"
I think you were the one this time😂
"The tool i s supposed to make it easier." Boy have I been there, done that! I also have a collection of o-rings where I needed 2 and had to buy 50. Eventually, you'll find something else that uses them, amazing how that works. Might take 20 years, but you will. :)
The problem is I'll forget I have them or where they are.
@@WatchWesWork What you need is more storage! When we bought (most of) the contents of a hydraulic shop that closed down, we got more fittings and seals than you could ever dream of. Thankfully, we also bought the storage system that held it all. Roughly converting it to imperial, it would be ~2450' of shelf space.
And I still find I don't have the right part in stock!
Bringing clapped out machinery back up to a proper operational level is such a pain!
It must be in my DNA to really like doing projects like this one!
My mother accused me of having motor oil for blood!
Great job !! Looking forward to the next revival edition!!
When you set the camera down, and the bug ran across the floor…I’m not proud to say that I died laughing.
The ant scuttling across the floor around 14:55...
Priceless
"The skid-steer from hell ..." As always: a bargain stopps being a bargain when all the "little malfunctions" sum up. But so far you did a good job on its revival. Like to see further progress 🙂
I’m always impressed by people doing jobs I can no longer do. The use of fairy liquid I do recognise that!
There are two things your channel has convinced me I need - a mirror on a telescoping stick, and a powered ratchet. Sure has made my life easier!
You need a couple mirrors of different sizes to fit where you want them and for backup when they break.
@@WatchWesWork Definitely need a backup for when I break them!
Man, this was like a skid steer “kit”. Most of the stuff you need and you build the rest. 😮
That's a pretty good way to describe it!
Wes better see his cardiologist after the episode of the runaway Kubota, one has never lived without some engine going full throttle with no easy shutdown, especially on a diesel. I expect that this will going for many more episodes, so be wary when you buy a worn out skid steer.
Whenever we rebuilt a Detroit, we always had a plate to cover the intake horn in case the engine took off. Most of them had an emergency shutoff plate in the air horn but you always had to check to make certain in worked. Another good practice is to have some CO2 fire extinguishers handy to shoot into the intake so there isn't oxygen to support combustion.
Some of Wes' catchphrases; "howdy folks," "kiddo," "lady," "parts cannon," "just fine," and "Bangladeshi ship breaker - ship breaking yard." 😆
"I don't think she's got too many of those left in her" That one made my day...
For as long as that engine was probably running at just low rpm it probably needed that Italian tune job.
That part made by Lord Corp is made in a tiny little town in PA my home town infact. 15 min south is where channelock is made and 15 min north is where most every domestic automobile wheel bearing is made and also timpkins hub bearing assys
The best part of this video was the audible "CLICK" when putting the hydraulic cylinder back together. HAHAHA, that's the kind of shadetree stuff that I do to entertain myself while working on hot garbage...
The outro music has a Miami Vice feel to it. I like it.
29:40 Honestly I'd like to see you install something modern like a back camera on the thing. Cheers Wes, love the vids.
the boat I use has a 3 cylinder kubota base engine, so far its had 3 diesel overruns, the last one bent a con rod, turns out the mechanical fuel pump was leaking diesel into the sump, its now running lovely. these engines are pretty much bullet proof.
“Click!”
Love it! Thanks.
For a second I thought during the high rev issue the channel's new name was going to be Watch Wes Worry.
Wes there's something about watching your video. It just brings a sense of fulfillment to me knowing that there's still some awesome mechanics out there. Epic video Wes can't wait for the next video. Have a blessed day. Aloha from Kansas
Glad to hear it!
now that was a very scary moment Wes. especially with steering controls being reworked without an adjustment, very scary. glad you are ok.
You gotta BE ready for runaways @ ALL TIMES when the diesel engine is running! Nerve racking, but necessary. Your beard handled the situation well. Good job 2all 🥶 🐲
I felt your pain and being out of breathe during that potential runaway. You forget to the dozen expletives unless they were edited out 😂😂
Get some of that rubberized spray paint and paint the battery compartment and holddown (just a TLC thing)
Defintely getting some love that it needs!
Keep em coming!!!!
I really enjoy watching your fabrication skills on unobtainium pieces,. It's a lost art. Mega skills Wes!
To shutdown a runaway Diesel engine, place a piece of plywood over the intake and choke it out.
The intake was blocked. It was still running.
Thank you Wes, for the lesson on Mechanics again. Your production on the videos is largely improved. I’ll indicate you for an Oscar. 😂😂 oGreetings from Brazil.
In awe of your skills, love your work
30:17: Did you see how much play/wear the right hydraulic cylinder has? It moved up about a centimeter 😅
More than that...
How many pounds is a centimeter?
@@daleolson3506 Yes...
i came to this channel for the automotive stuff, and im still here for that, but i gotta say im a big fan of the machining and fabrication side as well! and i dont know anything about that stuff, im a chef lol. good stuff Wes!
I appreciate that!
14:35, Steve the spider is racing to help!
Sometimes the Amish lifestyle looks good. 😂
I'd take a horse a lot of days.
@@WatchWesWorkit would still have dodgy electrical problems from a previous owner.
I don’t even want to think about the leaking fluids…….
@@WatchWesWork I was picking up some brake pads the other day. This totally frustrated man holding a caliper with half a hose and his wife are behind me. I say, looks like yer havin fun too. He shrugs his torso in disgust. She says, I wish it was a horse; we could eat it. 😅
The words ‘clapped out’ spring to mind. 😂
Most noteable commenets "There is a learning curve", and "CLICK".
Even a new tool needs be used a few times to get with your program, right? You run a good shop for a kid with all that Daddy grey beard going. Enjoyed it all as usual. Ward will watch Wes work, happily.
Your sweat equity has paid off nicely. Good repairs. I love that seal install tool. Thanks again, Wes. Give Max a pat and a pet for us.
You teach and inspire a lot man. Motivate is a better word. Doing hard things is the best for character, to understand how things work, forces renewed patience. I really like you music choices too
Wes, if you need injection pump parts, call a pump rebuilding shop. It seems that UA-cam folks have had good luck with Area Diesel Service.
I used to rebuild them myself and I i figure that part should be available, but i do like your approach to it and it made for great content.
I didn’t even know that Thomas made skid-steers, I’ve only seen their school busses. The U.S has a weird market though. My wife’s uncle in Mexico has a 2022 Ford F-250 with a non-emissions 6.7 Powerstroke and a 6 speed manual.
That's pretty normal. Cat still makes the old 3406 truck engines just like they did in the early 90s. They just can't sell them here.
Too bad they couldn't sneak some into the U.S.
Oh man that is my worst nightmare anytime I am working on my diesels. Glad you got it shut down in time.
The shorthair pointer was doing his thing and pointing 😆
About six years ago I bought a Bobcat 530 Hydro. Twin Kohler 20 HP gas. Aux hydraulic as well. The best I can say is it ran and made it up the trailer ramps!:) When my wife asked what I needed it for the best I could do was shrug my shoulders. She's very supportive of anything that keeps me from bugging her so we hauled it home. Fortunately the only pins and bushings severely worn were the bucket pivots. Bobcat wanted $2000 for the parts but I found them online for $450. Big job😢 I replaced the leading edge on the bucket which otherwise was in pretty good shape. As is common on farm machines the bucket is over width by 12" which ment I immediately tipped it on its nose. Thank goodness for the good lap belt. Runs a works great for what I use it. Similar to you I'm clearing snow from a good sized drive and a little"family" dirt work. Unfortunately even though I'm gradually fixing leaks the site cleanup will rival the Exxon Valdez 😢 It doesn't drip enough when operating to cause any concern, it just never stops! I cleaned it up ,painted it and installed new decals. I think Bobcat is a little greedy with the $15 a spray can Bobcat orange and charcoal! But what the hell, it's functional and fun to drive. Thanks from America's Dairyland!
Love watching you fix up all sorts of old equipment for yourself rather than for customers. Even if you were to flip them to make extra money. For some reason, the videos are just better when you own the project. That said, I still like customer stuff, though. Long time subscriber. Keep it up!
40+ years ago diesel mechanic my stepfather was friends with instilled in me, ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN FOR A RUNAWAY ENGINE. lol
Good video!
Lord got into the rubber mounting business in 1918I..They specialized in vibration dampening mounts for WWII airborne electronic boxes.
"CLICK!" I love your sense of humor as much as your resourcefulness and perseverance Wes. Great stuff.
It’s about time you did a series of videos on the Honda Goldwing that’s in the background of just about every video you make. There is a big motorcycle following out there.
Every man needs a hobby, and an excuse to work on his hobby that keeps his wife off his back. Starting this channel was genius.
Wes, another great video showing your 'can do' attitude. The new tool to insert the plastic wiper sure is handy. Keep on producing interesting videos. Blessings to you.
“Kinda pricey” can keep a guy from finishing a job aka paying employees and feeding their family. A mechanic is one who can make stuff work! It may janky but if it works it works. Great video.
I'm totally having Cutting Edge Engineering flashbacks here, what with all the cylinder rebuilding and what not. And yes, that's a good thing :)
Got to be careful when you start liking cylinder rebuilding, though, or before you know it you have a massive workshop with a gantry crane, ginormous lathes and honing machines, along with an attention-seeking dog squeaking his way around the shop :)
Great Video Matt. I love the change of subjects. Working on old Rusty Ford diesels was getting old. 😂
FYI..I really enjoy your the music selections you now play!
What a guy.. good man. Cheers from Vietnam
Just another cliffhanger in my life….
My life is like watching a telenovela: waiting for the next episode.
Thank you very much Wes.
Never would have expected to hear Lord mounts mentioned here. Ive machined a couple hundred Lord engine isolator mounts for Delta 757’s. As always, really enjoy your content. Makes my Sunday afternoons.
Wes i enjoy your show , but I for some reason really like watching work on equipment, backhoes , tractors, ect ...thanks for the entertainment......
Joliet, Illinois
Keep on movin forward. Lookin real good!Thanks!!!
Well Wes, i have only been around one diesel runaway. And it wasn't my machine, but the homeowner's. Didn't know to cut off the air supply, so I crawled under the machine with hit oil spraying and dripping out to manage to turn the fuel valve off. Praise God it worked. Turns out someone from the past has connected the crankcase breather line to the intake. Worn engine with a little oil blow-by fueled itself as oil warmed and thinned out. Unnerving situation I hope never to repeat. Glad it worked out for you. Thank you for the video. You seem more at ease, which I am happy to see and support.
Yikes!
@@WatchWesWorkYikes indeed! Praise God in my ignorance for what usually happens in the situation, He spared my life. I had to go hand dig a spot to bury our family cat, after removing the oil coated tee-shirt. My clothes were ruined, but the backhoe, now repaired continues to run. It was tired before, so is difficult to know how much if any damage was done to the engine. But I think God for sparing my life when I really didn't know how bad it should have been. And that the belching, hot oil did not burn me. 😮😁 I definitely count my blessings!
Great video as always 28:03 @Watch Wes Work
I so felt your pain when that part disappeared from the vice when you were grinding on it. Nice work on this rescue beast.
my thread files saved me a few times and shocked fellow mechanics who had never heard of them.
"Broaching" I learned something new Wes 😂😂👍
When running up a diesel keep a couple of large CO2 fire extinguishers handy - shoot it into the intake to shut down a runaway - no air, no 'booms', so engine stops.👍🇺🇸😎
Great job Wes. As a heavy equipment mechanic and now service manager, your hired!
The little spider was heading over to help out. You train the shop critters well.
Had a 1978 Ford E-100 with the 6-300 in it.
Radiator had a slow leak.
One night, stayed out late, engine was running fine, a touch hot. Maybe a touch over 200F. It's past midnight, I pull into my family's driveway and shut her down. Engine started to diesel/post ignition. Dad taught me to stomp the gas and it would flood it and stop the dieseling! Worked every time, except this time! There was enough heat in the head to ignite the air/fuel that when I stomped the gas I created a run away engine! I instantly realized what I had done and ran out of the van only to find my father on the porch in his underwear (the noise had woken him) I yell out, IT'S GONNA BLOW! I can still see him dancing around not sure what to do. It was comical. The noise of that 6-300 reving into RPM's that it had no business to enter in a midnight quiet was deafening!
Luckily, the carb to intake gasket blew out and the engine went down to a lower RPM. I ran back, put her in 1st and popped the clutch. Thus, shutting the engine down and learning the proper way to kill a dieseling gas engine!
Went down to NAPA the next day, got the carb to intake gasket for a buck and fixed the engine. Tightend up the single barrel Carter carb and she never ran better. 😂
Great channel, one of my favs if not my favorite. When the video ends, I'm always disappointed it's over.