I guess I wasn't clear about the A/C. I'm using my recovery machine to add dye to the system and recharge it. The dye will show the leak, which is in the seals between the sections of the compressor. The compressor is very expensive and hard to change, so it is not going to be fixed at this time.
The compressors are easy to reseal once out of the car but if they are pitted at all, it will leak out again. If it comes back to you Wes inspect the mating surfaces carefully. Any pitting of the case, get a reman unit.
@@DontCryAboutIt The EPA says you cannot intentionally vent an AC system, but they do not require you to fix leaks unless your system is really large (like large buildings). Some of the cans you buy in a store have wax in them to seal leaks. That can plug up the recovery machine, so shops are reluctant to fix DIY AC systems.
Yeah, the EPA takes all of the fun out of everything!! I mean, we even have to take used motor oil to a recycler, nowadays!! Back in the good old days, how do you think that the weed killer industry got started?? We didn’t need no stinking weed killer, TIL THE EPA!! Now, we have grass growing up in our gravel driveways, and every time a vehicle pulls up, it looks like a dust storm in the desert!!
@@roadkill5333 If your water main comes from the road and follows your driveway to your house you really do no want to have any oil contamination. A elderly neighbour complained that her water tasted strange. The water company tested it and found it to be contaminated with Diesel oil. They had run the pipeline right through the spot where her late husband had parked his tractor for 40 years. Diesel oil especially will easily penetrate MDPE water pipe. YMMV :( To eliminate confusion here's a link to the sort of pipe that we use in the UK. www.bes.co.uk/mdpe-blue-mains-water-pipe-25mm-x-100m-23569/ Stay safe!
In New Zealand they will not recharge your leaky AC for any reason. You need to get it fixed first. Its fully regulated they get in alot of trouble if they do recharge a leaky system.
hmm yeah, so x amount of fuel holds x amount of BTU, an engine dissipates X amount of BTU so after running it x to x minutes it with x (determined with air temp etc) BTU loss should be at 80 - 90 degrees c , if not we got cooling problems, is after X minutes of running and > 80 ~ 90 we got also cooling problems.. interesting ..
This video is EXACTLY why I watch you! There are alot of mechanic channels on here but in a nut shell, your basically the only 1 I watch pretty much as soon as I get the notification! It all boils down to your diagrams and how you show AND say exactly what you think or know what the problem(s) is! Keep'm coming bro and Cheers from Canada eh lol
Wes, loved the logic. That completely makes sense that the default strategy would be to turn all cooling fans on full if it thinks it has lost accurate measurement of temps.
You eould of loved it when I drew out a 'kegger' type intake on a 98 dodge ram 318 that had the faulty plenum gasket leak so my wife would understand, bad thing is I'm not an 'artist', lol. That's got to be the most restrictive air intake system I have ever seen.......
Wes I am mightily impressed with your logical thought process in determining the cause of the (malfunction) problem. Your drawing certainly clarified it for me, as it did for you. It was pretty smart of GM engineers to include that little bit of “fail safe” in the design too.
@@WatchWesWork Why that reluctancy? I've talked to many british carpenters and they all agreed about how easier it is in metric rather than imperial. I must admit that Celcius is way less precise than Farenheit though.
@@WatchWesWork That's because you can't visualize it. After 44 years in metric, I still can't visualize what a person measuring 180 cms high looks like and the weight is also one of my problem.
@@WatchWesWork Having been born in the late 60's, in Canada, and gone through the Education system being taught pretty much only in Metric (but a touch of the Imperial system as well), and having grown up and lived through the 70's and 80's watching parents and Grandparents and relatives, neighbors, all manner of good people use both systems, I have concluded that both systems have advantages and disadvantages. Knowing them both is valuable, being able to understand them both is a definite asset, but trying to calculate from one value to another is a royal pain in the backside. I prefer my weather in Metric, but I prefer Imperial measure for other most of my other needs. Speaking in pounds for weight, miles for distance, mpg for fuel economy just makes more sense to me. By the way, I call it "Imperial" (as opposed to Metric), but an "Imperial" gallon is a larger gallon than a US gallon, whereas a mile is a mile is a mile wherever you are. What is the proper name of the measurement system that American people use?
@@WatchWesWork I kid you not but here in the UK where "supposedly" we went Metric a long time ago. Go into shop and ask for a kilo of 6 inch nails. Go into shop and ask for 30 meters of 2x1 You will get the items that you requested, how amazing is that?
One of the most beautiful pieces of scrap metal ever to be mounted on wheels. More beautiful even than the equivalent Corvette - angular, mmmm, sleek. I'll just go down to Autozone and get the replacement radiator I nee- I can't get one, oh no! This fuel sender problem is no big deal I'll just- Oh shit!
I love your approach to diagnostics and it's really cool how you explain things. You sort right thru what seems to be a bunch of unrelated mystery codes and gremlins and come up with a logical, accurate explanation. I'm also routinely impressed with some of the tools you break out - pretty fancy for a "farm" mechanic =) Nice job there man.
I really enjoy your explations of the problems you solve.I’m a retired tool maker so I understand some of your thinking.Your experience in working on machine tools I’m sure has been a help.Don’t stop recording your projects.
Wes, “much to nice to stay around me” almost had me on the floor laughing because I said that once a long time ago to a guy with a Mercedes Sport version. Excellent diagnostic and confirmation when (that’s your problem lady) thermostat was removed and viewed!! I’m sure a few of those 11k will be glad you directed them to the fault and fix!
Regardless of how the car performs or the quality of it's manufacturing, I've always loved the look and design of the XLR's. I really enjoy the sleek angular style of it.
Not only am I impressed with your knowledge from gasoline to diesel and the hardware attached, but I am also really impressed with the skill of knowing your subject and the way you present this information to us, your UA-cam viewers. You make it fun and some of us put it into action solving problems we face with our vehicles. Thank you and my God bless you and your family.
If we route the upper radiator hose through the trunk ...... I think you are an exceptional technician, junk gets transformed to running stuff and nice stuff gets a very good and thorough repair where you knowledgeably and expertly diagnose and repair systems, bravo!!
Impressed with your methodology , note taking and COMMON SENSE in your work . You don't see the use of common sense with the younger generations . Enjoyed brother , God bless .
I LOVE IT!! I had 2004 Impala (3.4) with a bad Coolant Temperature Sensor. The A/C flew south (disengaged itself), I could smell Fuel, and, acceleration was lackluster. I changed the Coolant Sensor, let it sit overnight (no codes erased) and it was fine the next morning!! The PCM shut down all unnecessary accessories WITH A FAIL SAFE MODE JUST IN CASE the Engine was overheating. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL.
Saturday and Sunday videos...Wes you are spoiling us! Thank you! It's always a pleasure to watch you work...You are a top quality mechanic! I've never taken any of my vehicles to a shop, always done what ever is needed myself...If there was a guy like you where I am...I'd give all my tools away.
I like the idea of the temperature monitoring, more of a safety device then anything if you ask me, very audible and hard to ignore. unlike the dummy light on the dash, most people ignore that light. I scan it and make sure its not critical before continuing with my journey.
Thanks, Wes, for the explanation of Caddy's cooling system process. I owned a new '84 or '85 Buick Century with the V-6. It had an electric fan for cooling and no algorithms to calculate expected versus actual temperatures. A $2.00 sensor failed, the fan never ran, and the head gasket failed, one month after warranty expiration. I went back to Buick and explained that they were going to suffer huge hits to their karma if they didn't do right. They said they would fix it. Found out during repair that the heads (aluminum?) had warped so badly that they could not be used. So, Cadillac's system actually makes sense -- if things are not working as expected, turn on the fan to try and keep the engine cool! I like it.
I just discover your videos and I really like that you rake the time to explain how the system works and why it does that, and in my opinion that system to prevent overheating I think it’s a great idea 👌
The reference is an[ op amp ], so when that sensor checks temp which will be an RTD,to ECM internally this type is called a comparator. ECM's & PLC's -programmable logic controllers, which I had 16 weeks in college one of nine electronics coerces each 16 weeks,along with Ford factory training on Allen Bradley Logix 5000 plcs ver. 20 , 80 hours and 27 months on there factory floor,I was in body shop were they make the Transit van the big one. So with my little experience, I can tell you that's how that works,your diagram was accurate,but that device that op amp will give out a good signal when it polls,or does its IO scan. If it doesn't like what it sees in a time interval,its going to throw a code,or with Plcs a fault,if its a major fault,it will shut down a minor will keep running.They are known in plcs as a watch dog timer. Motor faults,shut line down,or if some genius pulls open a safety gate or breaks a beam ect. We don't want people getting whacked with a robot swing around a front fender ,or a floor pan. Or the bottom of a van frame,squashing them like a piss ant. Yes at break and end of shift,there running out like a bunch of ants breaking beams ect,headed for the door. I was at Ford May 2013 to August 2015 in KC,Mo. actually the plant sits on Liberty,Mo, Claycomo , Mo, & Kc,Mo land employs about 9 k people when going full tilt. Nice Cady, if your a GM guy.
I am impressed with the array of tools you have, I am sure you have the same investment than a dentist. Your knowledge and insight is the reason you get Cadillacs and soon Rolls Royces and other luxury autos.
Since I live in the land of ice and snow 🇨🇦, I diagnosed a couple things right away. 1: Coolant too strong causing the MAS to read sub below temps and causing a rich mixture and the vehicle mileage will drop off. 2: The AC is not charged or it is set to front defrost causing the compressor to cycle and the fans to run. In Canada compressors are tied into the front defrost to prevent seizing from lack of use for 9 months a year. 3: Thermostat is knackered
@@nedasher116No a Northstar is not an LS, not even close.... Sure same cubic inch, but not even close to the same, even the block is different. Its like comparing a hemi 5.7 to a chevy 5.7
I have an 06 xlr v and the p0128 happened to me this morning. Like yours my Eng tmp gage at 9 oclock. I had coolant thru the heater core as evidenced by the amount of heat I was getting out of the vents. This was way helpful. thank you!
What I really like when watching a professional work on something is not only the knowledge, but also that you have (almost) all the special tools you need. Makes me envious. :)
Awesome diagnosis and repair. I'd be afraid to get near something that nice, be afraid of buggering something up. Definitely not your usual cliental. Nice job!
Gee Wes that was quick!! ... Your remark: "Unlike the junk i usually work on" had me chocking on my sandwich ... thanks🤣 but it was good to watch you work🛠.
Production 2004 to 09. Better ride than vettes I have had. Mine is a 2008. The 4.2litre Supercharged one at 443 HP is a thrill to drive. Alternator is coolant cooled! All are retractable hardtops. Starter under intake manifold I believe! Nuts. Very little Corvette content, floor pan is slightly different. I did install a rear Vette anti-sway bar with no modifications. Huge parts problem. New headlights are NOT available, haven't been for years. Other items too. Runflat tires.
"inside the PCM there's a couple things going on". That's a good one Wes. Glad you're getting some work in your shop, but I wouldn't wish a Cadillax on anyone. Do you think the rocket surgeons will ever come up with a P code that says R&R thermostat and coolant? Probably not.
Such a good point. For all the data a high end scan tool gives, they seem to do a crappy job of assembling that data into a solution for the problem. A bad ground on a ECM or low voltage from a dirty connection, etc. will have you trying to fix all kinds of irrelevant nonsense. It's still vital to have pre OBD2 troubleshooting skills.
@@wes11bravo the problem i think is that when OBD/2 was standardized, the error codes don't really leave room for verbosity and so you end up with a code that could be caused by a myriad of things. After all it was done in 1994, there should be a OBD3 with the storage and computing power we have nowadays where the car expands the data itselfs. Probably like an extension of the freeze frame functionality we already have in cars
Very impressive. You certainly are not a rookie in the mechanic world. Those codes would have had me going down the rabbit hole big time. I bet, if that was taken to a dealer the bill would exceed 3 digits. Thanks for sharing.
@@WatchWesWork we got it shipped to use when we were mid deployment (submarine) so the crew watched it about a thousand times. When we aren't being super duper sneaky, we can usually watch movies, otherwise card games only, or we are forced to bed...
Wes, back when this car first came out, I was lucky enough to be in Bowling Green, Ky, the one and only place the Corvette is built, for a plant tour. During that tour, our guide pointed off into the distance in the far corner of this plant (a huge place), and basically said “folks, I’m not supposed to tell you this, but the cars you see back there are not new corvettes, they are the new Cadillac XLR, which is built on the corvette chassis, and the workers back there right now are learning how to assemble the car before the line is started for full production.”
Good fix.. I wasn't one bit surprised when you said it was the stat.. I had figured it was the issue.. just have to go with your gut sometimes.. Love the channel
I think it's smart that it protects the engine. Because they know the north stars are junk lol. But great video, keep them coming I look forward to them
@Watch Wes Work - - - This was a great video...I really appreciate your detailed explanation of the ECM systems and the interrelationship of them. Your analysis was spot on (as usual). Nicely done, Wes...thank you.
G’day Wes it amazes me just how technical cars are today and how you diagnose a problem on a small screen, I remember the big diagnostic machines with all the leads. This is a really nice car good fix Wes, that thermostat was something else……John
A little bit quicker than the usual stuff you work on! It's a beautiful car but a real pita to work on. Had to talk my son out of buying one, he wanted it so bad he could taste it (as they say). And he was a good mech. Damn good job, Wes!
Hey Wes, got a 2010 f350/6.4 diesel/ the same thing to me/ where the ECM/ detected a fault with trans temp/ put cooling fans on high/ the sensor would fail at about the same time in a drive cycle the gauge would drop out / put new sensor on it /the stars all lined up unacorns ran by / FIXED/THANK YOU i watch your videos just as much as i watch SMA/ LIVE NEAR eric and he has worked on my truck a few times/ You guys are BEST,
great job man I like how you went about diagnosing the problem and took care of it. I also like the tool to remove the clamps, that was pretty cool, I had not seen it .
Well sir the good news is that the car is fixed...the bad new is that my pup wanted to go with me for a ride and scratched up the driver's side door, and by that time I thought, "Oh what the hell, come pup, let's go for a ride." -- And that's when the fight started. Great video Wes, thumbs up. 😉
Really, really well done diagnostically-minded video - you walked us right through exactly how you proved that your hunch was correct! I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos these days - I used to be essentially a diagnostician for a major OEM, and I don't get to do that anymore unless I find a broken piece of equipment to play with. Now I get to live vicariously through you!
Well. that's a fancy smancy tool! That is awesome! I was a mechanic back in the early 70's ( last century) LOL and we didn't have a lot of the tools used today.
60 year old Farmall’s and John Deere’s to 13 year old Cadillac sports car! What can’t you repair Wes? You are the go to mechanic in your neck of Illinois farm country! 👍
Very good video. I think you nailed the diagnosis of the engine computer having parameters programmed to save the engine from over heating given the head gasket problems those engines use to have.
You are right on these system it reads all the sensors and engine load and time and compares the information to what it should be at during that load and speed and it dies suspect that the engine is over heating so it cools it Down with the fans even though the thermostat is stuck open and it's to cold these are very clever and reliable systems other then its common for the thermostats to fail on these caddys @8:04 to @13:10 @Watch Wes Work
I watched your JD (part 2) video yesterday, then went out and did my "honeydew" list stuff. Went to bed early last night, up early this morning, and Holy Cow! a Sunday morning treat for me, a WWW video in the queue for me... Thank you sir. P.S., I just assumed you worked all kinds of stuff. Some viewers here as well as yourself were commenting on this vehicle job being out of the ordinary for you. I was thinking you were getting the business re-established, regarding the move to a new area/location/clientele etc., I could tell from all your previous videos, that your skills were way above a 1930's Case tractor. The work in that plow truck HUEI motor, the re-plant engine on the famed "Captiva"... The type of pre-diagnosis and subsequent work you just did on this Cadi, is most likely what the independent repair shop folks will be doing to put food on the their table for years to come, as people are gonna be fixing stuff instead of buying new "crap"... I love your professorial, tutorial, way of explaining of your work, and the simple diagrams are awesome for a thick headed person as myself... The shop was too quiet in this video, gotta slip a cameo in of the "the lovely assistant", and the little guy making some kind of racket and comments... Love those... Thanks you sir.
Interesting and somewhat related note for the memory banks. P2 Volvos (roughly 2001 - 2007 depending on model) the fan will run at full speed all the time if the HVAC refrigerant charge is low. Love your work, Thank you!
Well that is interesting. I wonder why they would ever do that. Around here lots of people run around with non-functioning A/C. It doesn't really get that hot.
@@WatchWesWork I don't have a logic diagram handy, but sure enough. No codes set either. They run a single pressure sensor on the high side, between the drier and the condenser. I've got two of them ('04 & '06) and both have exhibited the same behavior. I can't find it now, but I've run across a simplified explanation in the past that indicated that this was Volvo's "Refrigerant low" code substitute.
I had a Nissan Pulsar (Sunny?) that had the same weird problem except I didn't have the diagnostic equipment and I couldn't figure it out. I wish I had seen this video 2 years ago! :-) Got rid of it and went back to Corolla which had the same stupid rubber ring thermostat but at least it was easy to diagnose and fix. Great video. Cheers
I guess I wasn't clear about the A/C. I'm using my recovery machine to add dye to the system and recharge it. The dye will show the leak, which is in the seals between the sections of the compressor. The compressor is very expensive and hard to change, so it is not going to be fixed at this time.
The compressors are easy to reseal once out of the car but if they are pitted at all, it will leak out again.
If it comes back to you Wes inspect the mating surfaces carefully. Any pitting of the case, get a reman unit.
@@DontCryAboutIt The EPA says you cannot intentionally vent an AC system, but they do not require you to fix leaks unless your system is really large (like large buildings). Some of the cans you buy in a store have wax in them to seal leaks. That can plug up the recovery machine, so shops are reluctant to fix DIY AC systems.
Yeah, the EPA takes all of the fun out of everything!! I mean, we even have to take used motor oil to a recycler, nowadays!! Back in the good old days, how do you think that the weed killer industry got started?? We didn’t need no stinking weed killer, TIL THE EPA!! Now, we have grass growing up in our gravel driveways, and every time a vehicle pulls up, it looks like a dust storm in the desert!!
@@roadkill5333 If your water main comes from the road and follows your driveway to your house you really do no want to have any oil contamination. A elderly neighbour complained that her water tasted strange. The water company tested it and found it to be contaminated with Diesel oil. They had run the pipeline right through the spot where her late husband had parked his tractor for 40 years. Diesel oil especially will easily penetrate MDPE water pipe. YMMV :(
To eliminate confusion here's a link to the sort of pipe that we use in the UK.
www.bes.co.uk/mdpe-blue-mains-water-pipe-25mm-x-100m-23569/
Stay safe!
In New Zealand they will not recharge your leaky AC for any reason. You need to get it fixed first. Its fully regulated they get in alot of trouble if they do recharge a leaky system.
Brilliant diagnosis and fix, I’ve learned something today...every day is a school day 🤙🏴
hmm yeah, so x amount of fuel holds x amount of BTU, an engine dissipates X amount of BTU so after running it x to x minutes it with x (determined with air temp etc) BTU loss should be at 80 - 90 degrees c , if not we got cooling problems, is after X minutes of running and > 80 ~ 90 we got also cooling problems.. interesting ..
This video is EXACTLY why I watch you! There are alot of mechanic channels on here but in a nut shell, your basically the only 1 I watch pretty much as soon as I get the notification! It all boils down to your diagrams and how you show AND say exactly what you think or know what the problem(s) is! Keep'm coming bro and Cheers from Canada eh lol
Wow, thanks! I try to get the point across. Sometimes it works, other times not so much.
A thinking man's mechanic, avoids the parts cannon.
Nicely done!
Wes, loved the logic. That completely makes sense that the default strategy would be to turn all cooling fans on full if it thinks it has lost accurate measurement of temps.
Yeah, excellent explanation of how a modern cooling system can be controlled. :)
Agreed, good sight to a cold engine code and resulting operating strategy.
Love it when you draw things out and explain👍 I have always been a picture guy. For myself and also explaining to others. 👍👍
Yeah, me too. Definitely a visual learner. I think that's why I love UA-cam.
You eould of loved it when I drew out a 'kegger' type intake on a 98 dodge ram 318 that had the faulty plenum gasket leak so my wife would understand, bad thing is I'm not an 'artist', lol. That's got to be the most restrictive air intake system I have ever seen.......
Wes I am mightily impressed with your logical thought process in determining the cause of the (malfunction) problem. Your drawing certainly clarified it for me, as it did for you. It was pretty smart of GM engineers to include that little bit of “fail safe” in the design too.
Nice explanation of how the system works.
Glad it was helpful!
Appreciate you mentioning the (rough) Celsius value for the temp values.
I try. We are slowly going metric here, but we don't like it!
@@WatchWesWork Why that reluctancy?
I've talked to many british carpenters and they all agreed about how easier it is in metric rather than imperial.
I must admit that Celcius is way less precise than Farenheit though.
@@WatchWesWork That's because you can't visualize it. After 44 years in metric, I still can't visualize what a person measuring 180 cms high looks like and the weight is also one of my problem.
@@WatchWesWork Having been born in the late 60's, in Canada, and gone through the Education system being taught pretty much only in Metric (but a touch of the Imperial system as well), and having grown up and lived through the 70's and 80's watching parents and Grandparents and relatives, neighbors, all manner of good people use both systems, I have concluded that both systems have advantages and disadvantages. Knowing them both is valuable, being able to understand them both is a definite asset, but trying to calculate from one value to another is a royal pain in the backside. I prefer my weather in Metric, but I prefer Imperial measure for other most of my other needs. Speaking in pounds for weight, miles for distance, mpg for fuel economy just makes more sense to me. By the way, I call it "Imperial" (as opposed to Metric), but an "Imperial" gallon is a larger gallon than a US gallon, whereas a mile is a mile is a mile wherever you are. What is the proper name of the measurement system that American people use?
@@WatchWesWork I kid you not but here in the UK where "supposedly" we went Metric a long time ago.
Go into shop and ask for a kilo of 6 inch nails.
Go into shop and ask for 30 meters of 2x1
You will get the items that you requested, how amazing is that?
You know, I love it when your "inner teacher" comes out. Great work. Great explanation . The term "substituted values" suddenly makes sense.
One of the most beautiful pieces of scrap metal ever to be mounted on wheels. More beautiful even than the equivalent Corvette - angular, mmmm, sleek. I'll just go down to Autozone and get the replacement radiator I nee- I can't get one, oh no! This fuel sender problem is no big deal I'll just- Oh shit!
You can get them, they just cost more, like the rest of the car.
That is outstanding handwriting.
I love your approach to diagnostics and it's really cool how you explain things. You sort right thru what seems to be a bunch of unrelated mystery codes and gremlins and come up with a logical, accurate explanation. I'm also routinely impressed with some of the tools you break out - pretty fancy for a "farm" mechanic =) Nice job there man.
LOL. I have all the toys!
I really enjoy your explations of the problems you solve.I’m a retired tool maker so I understand some of your thinking.Your experience in working on machine tools I’m sure has been a help.Don’t stop recording your projects.
Wes, “much to nice to stay around me” almost had me on the floor laughing because I said that once a long time ago to a guy with a Mercedes Sport version.
Excellent diagnostic and confirmation when (that’s your problem lady) thermostat was removed and viewed!! I’m sure a few of those 11k will be glad you directed them to the fault and fix!
Funny. We almost have more views than GM made XLRs!
Wes, it is refreshing to see you work on something normal. I will bet you had this for yourself. That would be nice but we can all dream.
I was impressed by how well you diagnosed and explained the problem. You did good work.
I love it when money doesnt get wasted! Diagnosis skills are worth way more than SnapOn tools.
Well it worked out this time.
Thanks for a good video and entertainment... "Blend of 11 herbs and spices" was a good way of describing the mysteries of what happens in the ECU.
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info
OMG. I didn’t think I would understand what you were doing but once you got it explained WOW 😮. Thank you
Wes, your “chalk talks” are super helpful and always well illustrated. You’re teaching a lot of folks good information! Thanks!
Oh and Wes. This was a treat seeing two videos this week. Thank you Sir.
Sir thank you for taking the time to explain the PCM Strategy and for the upload.
Regardless of how the car performs or the quality of it's manufacturing, I've always loved the look and design of the XLR's. I really enjoy the sleek angular style of it.
Holy bonkers man. $1000 diagnostic tool or $2000 hit and miss parts changing marathon. No brained there, nice work sir!
You have a good grasp on these control loop logic things...grasshopper.
Not only am I impressed with your knowledge from gasoline to diesel and the hardware attached, but I am also really impressed with the skill of knowing your subject and the way you present this information to us, your UA-cam viewers. You make it fun and some of us put it into action solving problems we face with our vehicles. Thank you and my God bless you and your family.
Thank you!
I've never seen a tractor like that! Thanks for the fun video.
Me neither!
If we route the upper radiator hose through the trunk ...... I think you are an exceptional technician, junk gets transformed to running stuff and nice stuff gets a very good and thorough repair where you knowledgeably and expertly diagnose and repair systems, bravo!!
Thanks 👍
Awesome diagnosis! The written and picture diagram really bring together what you found.
Impressed with your methodology , note taking and COMMON SENSE in your work . You don't see the use of common sense with the younger generations . Enjoyed brother , God bless .
Before anything had happens to it, love it.
I LOVE IT!! I had 2004 Impala (3.4) with a bad Coolant Temperature Sensor. The A/C flew south (disengaged itself), I could smell Fuel, and, acceleration was lackluster. I changed the Coolant Sensor, let it sit overnight (no codes erased) and it was fine the next morning!! The PCM shut down all unnecessary accessories WITH A FAIL SAFE MODE JUST IN CASE the Engine was overheating. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL.
Saturday and Sunday videos...Wes you are spoiling us! Thank you! It's always a pleasure to watch you work...You are a top quality mechanic! I've never taken any of my vehicles to a shop, always done what ever is needed myself...If there was a guy like you where I am...I'd give all my tools away.
Nah. You'd miss it!
Great video especially the diagnosis portion, I am a mechanical engineer in the test and analysis area and would always analyze prior to tear down !!
I like the idea of the temperature monitoring, more of a safety device then anything if you ask me, very audible and hard to ignore. unlike the dummy light on the dash, most people ignore that light. I scan it and make sure its not critical before continuing with my journey.
Thanks, Wes, for the explanation of Caddy's cooling system process. I owned a new '84 or '85 Buick Century with the V-6. It had an electric fan for cooling and no algorithms to calculate expected versus actual temperatures. A $2.00 sensor failed, the fan never ran, and the head gasket failed, one month after warranty expiration. I went back to Buick and explained that they were going to suffer huge hits to their karma if they didn't do right. They said they would fix it. Found out during repair that the heads (aluminum?) had warped so badly that they could not be used. So, Cadillac's system actually makes sense -- if things are not working as expected, turn on the fan to try and keep the engine cool! I like it.
I just discover your videos and I really like that you rake the time to explain how the system works and why it does that, and in my opinion that system to prevent overheating I think it’s a great idea 👌
A classic, 'show' don't 'tell' episode. Excellent diagnostics (the human bit).
The reference is an[ op amp ], so when that sensor checks temp which will be an RTD,to ECM internally this type is called a comparator. ECM's & PLC's -programmable logic controllers, which I had 16 weeks in college one of nine electronics coerces each 16 weeks,along with Ford factory training on Allen Bradley Logix 5000 plcs ver. 20 , 80 hours and 27 months on there factory floor,I was in body shop were they make the Transit van the big one. So with my little experience, I can tell you that's how that works,your diagram was accurate,but that device that op amp will give out a good signal when it polls,or does its IO scan. If it doesn't like what it sees in a time interval,its going to throw a code,or with Plcs a fault,if its a major fault,it will shut down a minor will keep running.They are known in plcs as a watch dog timer. Motor faults,shut line down,or if some genius pulls open a safety gate or breaks a beam ect. We don't want people getting whacked with a robot swing around a front fender ,or a floor pan. Or the bottom of a van frame,squashing them like a piss ant. Yes at break and end of shift,there running out like a bunch of ants breaking beams ect,headed for the door. I was at Ford May 2013 to August 2015 in KC,Mo. actually the plant sits on Liberty,Mo, Claycomo , Mo, & Kc,Mo land employs about 9 k people when going full tilt. Nice Cady, if your a GM guy.
I am impressed with the array of tools you have, I am sure you have the same investment than a dentist. Your knowledge and insight is the reason you get Cadillacs and soon Rolls Royces and other luxury autos.
Nicely explained and well done. Love these videos.
Glad you like them!
Since I live in the land of ice and snow 🇨🇦, I diagnosed a couple things right away. 1: Coolant too strong causing the MAS to read sub below temps and causing a rich mixture and the vehicle mileage will drop off. 2: The AC is not charged or it is set to front defrost causing the compressor to cycle and the fans to run. In Canada compressors are tied into the front defrost to prevent seizing from lack of use for 9 months a year. 3: Thermostat is knackered
Why yes siree Mr. Customer the tires was bald when you brought in here. I swears it.
Very informative video.
I bet that was a joy working on something that wasn't consumed with rust.
"It has the Cadillac Northsta...THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM LADY!"
Too bad it's a Chevy LS
@@nedasher116No a Northstar is not an LS, not even close.... Sure same cubic inch, but not even close to the same, even the block is different. Its like comparing a hemi 5.7 to a chevy 5.7
The Northstar is a great engine I never had any problems
@@RageHP-RageHorsePower I second that
I had to pause on your description of the vehicle's cooling awareness just to say... that's friggin genius!
I need you to stop showing your awesome specialty tools I didn't know I needed. You're killing my bank account.
I like to have all the toys...
@@WatchWesWork Yep...we do love our 'toys'. The hose clamp tool...very cool.
I second that motion....
I remember when $50 worth of tools in a box would fix most anything on a car.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I have an 06 xlr v and the p0128 happened to me this morning. Like yours my Eng tmp gage at 9 oclock. I had coolant thru the heater core as evidenced by the amount of heat I was getting out of the vents. This was way helpful. thank you!
Thought someone had illegally parked in your shop !! 🤣🤣 nice vid. Keep busy. Thanks for sharing
What I really like when watching a professional work on something is not only the knowledge, but also that you have (almost) all the special tools you need. Makes me envious. :)
I like toys.
@@WatchWesWork What's the saying? "The only difference between boys and men is the price of their toys." :)
That's an awful fancy looking plow you got there.
You've got yourself a rare bird to work on.
The thing sits so low it could be a plow!
Awesome diagnosis and repair. I'd be afraid to get near something that nice, be afraid of buggering something up. Definitely not your usual cliental. Nice job!
Gidday Wes from South Australia. Love your vids..
Haha, in SA too
It is a brilliant system that really protects the engine.
I think it's smart.
@@WatchWesWork Jeupp. Me 2.
You had me laughing so hard at 11 herbs and spices, nice diagnosis
I like the way you diagnose problems, you get results. Lovely looking car
Gee Wes that was quick!! ... Your remark: "Unlike the junk i usually work on" had me chocking on my sandwich ... thanks🤣 but it was good to watch you work🛠.
Glad you enjoyed it!
With it being a northstar it may be more junk than he normally works on.
Production 2004 to 09. Better ride than vettes I have had. Mine is a 2008. The 4.2litre Supercharged one at 443 HP is a thrill to drive. Alternator is coolant cooled! All are retractable hardtops. Starter under intake manifold I believe! Nuts.
Very little Corvette content, floor pan is slightly different. I did install a rear Vette anti-sway bar with no modifications.
Huge parts problem. New headlights are NOT available, haven't been for years. Other items too. Runflat tires.
I'm pretty sure the starter is under the intake on all Northstar engines. I've been done that path before...
I bet the ac stays pretty cold with the fans blasting like that all the time!
A great way to enjoy a Monday, outstanding, thank you Wes ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
"inside the PCM there's a couple things going on". That's a good one Wes. Glad you're getting some work in your shop, but I wouldn't wish a Cadillax on anyone. Do you think the rocket surgeons will ever come up with a P code that says R&R thermostat and coolant? Probably not.
That would be way too easy!
Such a good point. For all the data a high end scan tool gives, they seem to do a crappy job of assembling that data into a solution for the problem. A bad ground on a ECM or low voltage from a dirty connection, etc. will have you trying to fix all kinds of irrelevant nonsense. It's still vital to have pre OBD2 troubleshooting skills.
@@wes11bravo the problem i think is that when OBD/2 was standardized, the error codes don't really leave room for verbosity and so you end up with a code that could be caused by a myriad of things. After all it was done in 1994, there should be a OBD3 with the storage and computing power we have nowadays where the car expands the data itselfs. Probably like an extension of the freeze frame functionality we already have in cars
Very impressive. You certainly are not a rookie in the mechanic world.
Those codes would have had me going down the rabbit hole big time.
I bet, if that was taken to a dealer the bill would exceed 3 digits.
Thanks for sharing.
I would hope a dealer mechanic could figure this out. Book time for the thermostat is just over an hour, so a pretty cheap fix really.
"we're gonna live our life a quarter mile at a time."
reported for copyright infringement by Vin Diesel.
A hilarious line from a hilarious movie. I think I was 16 when F&F came out.
@@WatchWesWork God I feel old now : )
@@WatchWesWork we got it shipped to use when we were mid deployment (submarine) so the crew watched it about a thousand times. When we aren't being super duper sneaky, we can usually watch movies, otherwise card games only, or we are forced to bed...
@@JoeHynes284 - Ahoy there fellow Bubble-Head. Me too...'82-'91
Very cool explanation of the temperature sensing. Thanks for taking the time to do that!
"Fancy pants engine cover" LOL!
YA TAKE THAT SHIT OFF, JUST KEEPS THE ENGINE HOTTER & COVERS UP POSSIBLE PROBLEMS YOU CAN'T SEE.
I hate those stupid things
@@NoWr2Run ya and changing plugs is a nightmare because you need special tools
nowr2run there used for noise dampening.
I don't know which one was funnier:
- 11 herbs and spices
- well there's your problem lady (always a classic) or
- fancy pants cover
Wes is awesome!
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Wes, back when this car first came out, I was lucky enough to be in Bowling Green, Ky, the one and only place the Corvette is built, for a plant tour. During that tour, our guide pointed off into the distance in the far corner of this plant (a huge place), and basically said “folks, I’m not supposed to tell you this, but the cars you see back there are not new corvettes, they are the new Cadillac XLR, which is built on the corvette chassis, and the workers back there right now are learning how to assemble the car before the line is started for full production.”
I thought i was hallucinating seeing you post one of THOSE things
You never know what will come through the door!
@@WatchWesWork jut a few days ago i was seeing the car wizard video on this same model, but he had a split radiator, expensive AF repair it seems
love the logic and your sense of humor. look forward to your videos.
Wes: "for some reason it's in my shop"
Also Wes: "It has the northstar V8 in it"
me: prob why it's in your shop maybe?
Could be onto something there!
Cadillac Deathstar.
Nope. Entirely different from its earlier FWD sibling.
I thought they worked out the problems from the earlier years?
Good fix.. I wasn't one bit surprised when you said it was the stat.. I had figured it was the issue.. just have to go with your gut sometimes.. Love the channel
I think it's smart that it protects the engine. Because they know the north stars are junk lol. But great video, keep them coming I look forward to them
Noth stars are actually really good engines
@Watch Wes Work - - - This was a great video...I really appreciate your detailed explanation of the ECM systems and the interrelationship of them. Your analysis was spot on (as usual). Nicely done, Wes...thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Sorry lady but I'm gonna have to order parts and I can't get your car back to you for a few weeks..... ROAD TRIP!!
I had the same problem with a 3.8 straight 6 cylinder E type Jaguar. LOL
G’day Wes it amazes me just how technical cars are today and how you diagnose a problem on a small screen, I remember the big diagnostic machines with all the leads. This is a really nice car good fix Wes, that thermostat was something else……John
i actually have the exact same car on my lot, so we know where 2 of those 40 are
its a really nice car, i had to check their price here in Finland and cheapest was 40k € so close to $50k usd a bit too much for me :D
I wish I lived closer to you so you could do the work on my vehicles as I can see you are definitely worth whatever you charge
Cadi New Home
A little bit quicker than the usual stuff you work on! It's a beautiful car but a real pita to work on. Had to talk my son out of buying one, he wanted it so bad he could taste it (as they say). And he was a good mech. Damn good job, Wes!
Hey Wes, got a 2010 f350/6.4 diesel/ the same thing to me/ where the ECM/ detected a fault with trans temp/ put cooling fans on high/ the sensor would fail at about the same time in a drive cycle the gauge would drop out / put new sensor on it /the stars all lined up unacorns ran by / FIXED/THANK YOU i watch your videos just as much as i watch SMA/ LIVE NEAR eric and he has worked on my truck a few times/ You guys are BEST,
great job man
I like how you went about diagnosing the problem and took care of it.
I also like the tool to remove the clamps, that was pretty cool, I had not seen it .
I enjoy your show and tell time with the class. Much easier to understand how it works.
Well sir the good news is that the car is fixed...the bad new is that my pup wanted to go with me for a ride and scratched up the driver's side door, and by that time I thought, "Oh what the hell, come pup, let's go for a ride." -- And that's when the fight started. Great video Wes, thumbs up. 😉
Heh. He did want a ride, but I managed to talk him out of it.
Really, really well done diagnostically-minded video - you walked us right through exactly how you proved that your hunch was correct!
I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos these days - I used to be essentially a diagnostician for a major OEM, and I don't get to do that anymore unless I find a broken piece of equipment to play with. Now I get to live vicariously through you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliant diagnosis Wes, thanks again mate!
Well. that's a fancy smancy tool! That is awesome! I was a mechanic back in the early 70's ( last century) LOL and we didn't have a lot of the tools used today.
60 year old Farmall’s and John Deere’s to 13 year old Cadillac sports car! What can’t you repair Wes? You are the go to mechanic in your neck of Illinois farm country! 👍
Or I'm the sucker who can't say no.
Excellent breakdown of the sensor issue.
Well done Wes, another satisfied customer!
Very good video. I think you nailed the diagnosis of the engine computer having parameters programmed to save the engine from over heating given the head gasket problems those engines use to have.
You are right on these system it reads all the sensors and engine load and time and compares the information to what it should be at during that load and speed and it dies suspect that the engine is over heating so it cools it Down with the fans even though the thermostat is stuck open and it's to cold these are very clever and reliable systems other then its common for the thermostats to fail on these caddys @8:04 to @13:10 @Watch Wes Work
Another one of your gems, fun to watch
I watched your JD (part 2) video yesterday, then went out and did my "honeydew" list stuff. Went to bed early last night, up early this morning, and Holy Cow! a Sunday morning treat for me, a WWW video in the queue for me...
Thank you sir.
P.S., I just assumed you worked all kinds of stuff. Some viewers here as well as yourself were commenting on this vehicle job being out of the ordinary for you.
I was thinking you were getting the business re-established, regarding the move to a new area/location/clientele etc.,
I could tell from all your previous videos, that your skills were way above a 1930's Case tractor. The work in that plow truck HUEI motor, the re-plant engine on the famed "Captiva"...
The type of pre-diagnosis and subsequent work you just did on this Cadi, is most likely what the independent repair shop folks will be doing to put food on the their table for years to come, as people are gonna be fixing stuff instead of buying new "crap"...
I love your professorial, tutorial, way of explaining of your work, and the simple diagrams are awesome for a thick headed person as myself...
The shop was too quiet in this video, gotta slip a cameo in of the "the lovely assistant", and the little guy making some kind of racket and comments... Love those...
Thanks you sir.
Correct. I'm kind of taking what I can get at this point. Eventually we will settle on a core or work and focus a bit more.
Good explanation of sequence of operation of the cooling system. Very cool...
Thanks for taking the time to make a good explanation of the rational of the ecu making the fans run. 😀
Great diagnostics, I was thinking it was a temputure sensor. Great work.
That would cause the same cooling fan issues.
Interesting and somewhat related note for the memory banks. P2 Volvos (roughly 2001 - 2007 depending on model) the fan will run at full speed all the time if the HVAC refrigerant charge is low.
Love your work, Thank you!
Well that is interesting. I wonder why they would ever do that. Around here lots of people run around with non-functioning A/C. It doesn't really get that hot.
@@WatchWesWork I don't have a logic diagram handy, but sure enough. No codes set either. They run a single pressure sensor on the high side, between the drier and the condenser. I've got two of them ('04 & '06) and both have exhibited the same behavior. I can't find it now, but I've run across a simplified explanation in the past that indicated that this was Volvo's "Refrigerant low" code substitute.
Nice diagnosis, don't we all love spring hose clips...
I had a Nissan Pulsar (Sunny?) that had the same weird problem except I didn't have the diagnostic equipment and I couldn't figure it out. I wish I had seen this video 2 years ago! :-) Got rid of it and went back to Corolla which had the same stupid rubber ring thermostat but at least it was easy to diagnose and fix. Great video. Cheers