put grease on the gasket,couple spots. just re built a dizy,tiny screws with lock & washers, under a plate. with allen key, grease held them together. & on allen key..
I did a lot of tires on garbage trucks at the shop I worked at in rural MN. They would leave the trucks loaded over night sometimes and drop them off in the morning. The heat of the summer morning would draw out maggots, they would then fall usually directly were I was working (of course). The last time I did tires on one, a maggot fell down the back of my shirt. At that time I already had another job lined up at the end of the summer. My decision was validated by a maggot. That job nearly broke me mentally and physically, 6 years was well enough service in the tire industry.
Those who comment about, you should have used a penetrant haven't dealt with these kinds of issues. They don't know what rust has done to the fasteners, as evidenced by the fact that the threads were galled. So many times I have tried a penetrant and then had to resort to heat, at which point, I discover why the penetrant didn't work. The threads were too damaged by rust. When you have to struggle getting it out after you heat it red hot, a penetrant would have done exactly nothing. Love that mini-come along. Kind of wish I had a need for one. I will keep that in mind in the event I do need one of those. Thanks for the video. Great troubleshooting, as always.
Ok , let’s not break Wes ‘s , uh , chops about penetrating oil . It could be us having to working next to the hopper of a garbage truck . Ya know ? This had me remembering when I was working in a junkyard as a kid . I was helping old Bob take the wheels off a truck . Eight lug full floating wheels . Practically every lug was TIGHT . He got out the acetylene torch and heated them up and i was to work them off . I asked Bob if I should get some tranny fluid to lube the studs . He said , “ I could get a girl to do this right now “ . I just went with it . I never messed with old Bob , he was about 6 foot 6 or so , smoked camels and kept a 1903 Springfield rifle in his trunk . A veteran of Korea and ‘ Nam . My normal response to old Bob after he told me to do sometching was “ yes sir “ . I give Wes the same respect . He works hard .
About the only thing I can think of that would be worse to work on than a rusty old garbage truck is a rusty old septic vacuum truck - you are a good man for taking on these projects.
We had a poop pumper show up at our house for a pump out. He had just come from a butcher shop collecting blood and guts from a holding tank. Oh ,the humanity! The difference in our old poop and the nasty truck was the difference between Chanel number five and Taco Bell farts
Wes - A trick my Dad taught me, he was a mechanic for Greyhound after the war (WW2). Use a single strand of sewing thread tied through the bolt holes to hold a gasket on. The thread is so thin it won't interfere or leak. Works great!!
I think I have seen someone use a rattlecan sprac that just makes the gasket tacky for this only purpose. If I could just remember what the stuff was named.
Never leave a comment but today...it sounded like you could use one. Love following your work and your take on life's highs and lows...Tractors to dishwashers. I found you back a while, in a rare cameo on Diesel Creek when Matt was rescuing the loader he currently uses. While waiting for new content...I went back to the CNC machine and Fat Forklift and worked this way...I've got a ways to go. Keep it real, content is king...don't sweat the edits, and cut yourself some slack on the outros.
Hard to remember when you first come upon a good channel, but I remember when I came upon this one as well, I had just gotten a 7.3 and I just searched and saw Wes, ever since then, always excited for new content
That is one of the things that impresses me. He is very diverse. Shows he is thinking his way through problems. You can't learn that many different things in a classroom. I saw that cameo too.
its so fun watching new guys in skidsteers when the bounce starts and they make it worse. like wes said, to make it stop, you just have to take your hands off the sticks...but the new guy dont know that and tries to control the bounce. always good comic relief during the day. tell you what, those little 1/2t chain falls are a must for anyone who works on vehicles and who are in the construction industry. i got lucky and picked up a kito .5t 10' chain fall, brand new for $50!! its one of those tools your damn glad you have when you need it or another hand. thanks wes.
For a one man band Wes, you do a fantastic job, especially on things like this. It is clearly hard work on things so rusty with no help. Well done and don't lose heart in the channel. I'm am sure everyone that watches appreciates your dedication and commitment to doing a professional job.
Indeed; please don't listen to the Monday morning quaterbacks. I'm an electrical power engineer, and watch all of your videos without any judgment. I've bought many tools for myself based on your and Project Farm's experience.
totally . I concur . As someone who is disabled, Wes gives me Amazingly great tips for working on your own and its helped me immensely . Mind you i cant and dont work on Cars/Trucks or anything anymore and havent been able to in decades, the tips and tricks hes taught me for other things is priceless . Helped me to be able to to More than i was capable of or Thought i wasnt able to do . Now i can fix just about anything from watching Him and others . But ill stick to I.T. work as thats my expertise now, keeps me sane and in one piece . Cheers mate .
Enjoy watching your vids, I am a retired tech that spent 42 years in the business in dealer and municipal fleet repair, every video I watch I learn something new, please don't pay attention to posters who are critical or have a better way of making repairs, please keep up the good work and keep posting Don
I worked on garbage trucks as a young man, I don't miss the smell of dirty diapers in the hot afternoon sun, or wrestling leaf springs under a truck. Sure was fun to watch you do it though ;)
They've gotta be not only some of the most disgusting trucks to work on, but also the most abused. Every one of them, if they're not brand new, is falling apart and being slapped with bandaid fixes all day too. It's a real treat to work on a fleet of these. The upside is that there's so much to do, you can basically create as much or as little work as you want. You can fix the trucks for exactly what they turn them in for, or fix any other broken problems you see and want to fix. Which can lead to overtime if your shop offers it.
Watching you remove old rusted on nuts and bolts reminds me of the owner of the service shop I worked at who used to say ‘the impossible just takes a little longer’ Love your channel Wes!
I am amazed the amount of vehicles that you work on that are in this condition and it’s like there’s no preventative measures put in place to help with the conditions of the vehicle making your life easy anyway Wes Glad to see you’re back on the job
There is PM and Wes uses it ie. Anti seize, lock tight, etc. the only problem is that what he fixes, will never have to be re-addressed again, cause those crusty vehicles will have something else fail, or they'll make it to the bone yard first !
This is a normal day in a truck shop in Ontario Canada. Been working on this stuff for over 11 years and it never gets easier. Penetrating oil don’t do shit ever lol torches are your best friend. Keep up the good work Wes and stay warm bud. Cheers!
Lay penetrating to it after the heat. Sucks it right in. I know because I have broken more stuff than I would care to talk about. And then had to fix that mess too.
I just wanna say that you inspire me to continue working on my junk alone, I truly feel for you like when you were removing the old springs and thought to myself another guy there would just make life so much easier because I find myself in that situation all the time… much respect for you and the job you do, love the videos!! Keep up the awesome work!
I spent seven years with the DSNY with 25 cubic yard Macks with Loadmaster bodies. I'm not surprised the springs were worn out. The bin men pack them until the hydraulics stall, and I did the same thing. The ride is indeed very bouncy when empty. I'm very tall, and I always managed to hit my head on the cab roof. So job done, top work, and lets see if it come back for more maintenance.
As a mechanical engineer who also grew up on a farm, I appreciate the intricate attention to detail some channels place upon mechanically restoring automotive things to utterly pristine condition. But I also appreciate the brutal effectiveness (and black humour) Wes employs from time to time when working on big ol' battered heavy industrial/agricultural equipment. Do what's required and no more and keep these piles on the road! PS Every single time that torch sparked up out of shot was pure comedy. Wes, you're one of my favourite YT channels- and an insight in what actual everyday mechanics (who do this for a living) actually do. Not everyone has time to restore every piece of equipment to showroom condition- and that is perfectly fine!!
"That's highway robbery!!!" Fine, have at it yourself. It is what it is. Not like a dry complete repair. You want to play in rust land, you have to pay the price.
You work hard Wes. The vast majority of sissies raised in this country, parked on their key boards and smart phones could never hold a candle to you. If we had an army of you it would be ideal. Love the videos. God bless you Brother.
Know that you're making a LOT of lives better - refuse removal is crucial for healthy cities. Thanks Wes!! My office faces the street and every week I watch our collection truck empty our bins. The stop and go nature of the job is savage on those machines.
Every time I see a garbage truck, I get a flashback to the time when I worked at a Ford dealership and a garbage truck broke down on a Friday. It was towed in and parked in the shop in the middle of August in Mississippi. The truck was full of garbage. When we came in on Monday, the smell was indescribable, and maggots were dripping off the truck.
I like the very subtle and cleaver trick of spinning the bolt with the air impact before removing the nut all the way. Picked up a trick or two working on old rust buckets, ya did.
You are right Wes, very few options when dealing with a fastener in a galded condition. Magnitudes of force multiplication are required. A 7X rivet gun is no bueno, get a IR 40X demolition hammer, (what we used to drive out landing gear pins on C-141’s). You already have a Victor torch handle, use a #8 Rosebud instead of your cutting attachment. When you put your impact on a bolt and the harmonics equate to banging on a piece of railroad track with a 20 pound sledge, put all of everyday tools away and go straight to the heavy artillery. Your chances of victory increase exponentially when you fight fire with nuclear weapons. Have tried a lot of penetrating oils over the past 40 years. Kroil, Schaefer, PB, etc… still say plain old used motor oil works well for me. But in the end you know what they say in the heartland, “Your hog, your corn”. Best to you.
It's crazy how you can go from fixing Farm equipment to heavy equipment to heavy trucks to cars to golf carts to 4 wheelers to skidoos and whatever else I forgot.... great job you're a great mechanic!
Someone only has to watch you trying to get these rusted spring bolts out of the carrier to get a good understanding of how bad it can be and why older vehicles can eat you up with labor sometimes. Nice work. I'm sure the garbage truck customers appreciated their normal service didn't have a hicup!
Yeah, it's funny when people get upset when they look up 'book time', and you quote higher than they expected. Maybe when the car was new, that's how long it took to do the job.
I believe what ever you charged to do that job, it couldn't have been enough. I am glad you're young and big. I couldn't imagine trying to change those springs. Everything is hard to get. We tried to order a new garage door from Home Dodo yesterday. They said, buy it, then it will take 6 months to get it. Blahhh! Great vid. great job. I wish we could have seen it all.
First rule working on garbage trucks. Never open your mouth when you're under it. Those moving rice kernels are protein, but don't taste good. Lol. 8:07 A little grease, when clean, can hold the gasket. Also a guide bolt works well when installing.
Body hold down bolts with that block is a scale system to alert the driver of weight in the body. And 1 quart of ps fluid a week isnt bad at all for a 2003 garbage truck. And for the brake lights check wiring on top of body alot of times garbage pushes up into the harness at the top of the tailgate .
Glad to see some real wrenching back again. Real life problems real life solutions. What people don't really think of is the smell, repaired landfill equipment for years. Not a smell that just goes away. Nice work wes
I have never seen a garbage truck that didn't have weak springs on the back. We built our spring packs ourselves and added leaves plus added to the overloads. You need new mount bolts and springs. Back in the day, it was the Elgin-Leach company but I have no idea what it may be now. Likely been bought out at least once. I have been out of them for 20 years now.
A torch, the most important tool for Illinois mechanics. My first 35 years living in Chicago taught me. Moved to Phoenix, ZERO rust. Everything comes off like it was installed yesterday. Mechanics are spoiled out here. Well done as usual.
As a Canadian - we kind of know a thing or two on road salt and rust. The bright entrepreneur has his fleet oil-based rust proofed yearly. And maintenance crews are happy ! The equipment last way longer, is easier to fix and all. And money is saved in the med to long haul. Simple logic. Same with Rust Belt cars !
Thanks for Posting Wes so many would have scrapped the video. Real life that's what we are here for. Sometimes you just have to get the job done. Saw enough to understand and great explanation conclusion. We thank you for what you can bring to us and your explanations and commentary are uniquely you. Dazza from Australia
enjoyed this! i spent my career repair trash trucks on the metal fabrication side of things fortunately i did not live in the rust belt but many of the struggles are the same when it comes to packers. thanks for the memories!
Watching you fight with that gasket is painful. That's where I loved Permatex "High Tack" spray. I'm sure it helps seal well, but what I loves was the way it would hold a gasket in place during assembly. Those body mounts are common in my part of the world, but you did an awesome job with a video clip to demo what was wrong.
I had a power steering leak that I couldn't find on an 89 Toyota 4 runner, The truck also smoked pretty bad, so I was going to get rid of it. I had to wait and drive it like that for a while. One day I had a vacuum leak and noticed the vacuum line was oily. Turned out the vacuum switch on the power steering pump had failed and was pulling power steering fluid into the intake. I replaced that vacuum switch; no more smoking and power steering was sealed. Got another 100k miles out of that truck.
Amazing work Wes, your ability to get these rusted out junkers fixed never fails to impress. Loved the comment about penetrating oil gave me a chuckle, vastly overrated when compared to heat! Makes for great content watching your skills when up against it. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
It is overrated for sure. But more important its not applicaple for a situation like seen in the video and therefore will not work. It will neither creep into the threads, nor help to crack that bolt loose. All its for is to lube an exposed thread with rust build up when you remove a nut. So that the nut doesnt get stuck half way out.
I see the grass is green again. Too bad, the cold winter we've had would've surely helped with the smell when working on it. My uncle spent many years at the Leach plant in Oshkosh until they moved ops to Alberta in 2004.
I enjoy all your videos....I also understand being self employed.....no reason to apologize for the way the videos get put together when it is your honesty and work ethic that brings work into your garage- without that, there would be no videos anyway. Do what you have to do.....and hold onto your sense of humor.
Dude you are definitely my favorite UA-cam channel! I would give anything to be your gofor and oil change tire guy! You dry humor and tung in cheek wise cracks are just so spot on! So if you can use a guy to hand you a tool give me a call! Took early retirement so I work cheap!!! Oh almost forgot to say the main reason I enjoy your videos is because they are just so edjumacational!
I can't believe you get all that rust and cold weather in Arizona. I am so glad you were working on that truck and not me. You sure earned your pay on this one. Thanks for the videos. Stay warm.
That amplified Bobcat bouncing is what aeronautical engineers refer to as "pilot-induced oscillation", when the action of the hand on the joystick just makes matters a whole lot worse!
There was a place in San Jose, AC Spring., that would bend up any kind of leaf spring you wanted, often while you waited, if they liked you. You could come in with a broken leaf and they would duplicate it exactly. I think they did coil springs too. I searched and it returns a street address, but it does not look like the old place with a forge and heat treat. At least Pacific Heat Treat is still in Sunnyvale, but moved from its old location, though it never did automotive work. It's a blessing the gasket fell in the oil, better that than the dirty floor, and now it will stick to the back. I usually use lithium grease to stick the gaskets on for assembly. A pal showed me that my little DeWalt electric impact would take the harmonic damper nut off his old Ford Econoline if he just let it rattle away for 20 minutes. I was impressed. Your torch work sped that process up a lot, but we didn't have one handy and I would worry about a torch on the harmonic damper nut ruining the front seal.
You have the heart of a lion Wes. Well done on that job. Understand that your customer comes first and that you didn't have time to set up cameras. Stay safe you and yours, Norm.
i so enjoy your content many people dont understand real world situations in working on vehicles of this type it not always as easy as they my think or as simple as unbolt and replace also i thank you for your honesty
I started my apprenticeship in the early 70s when cars were much simpler and bigger. So much room on the engine compartment and many times your wife's nail file cleaned the points, you cigarette package provided a feeler gauge and you were on your way. Don't know how you keep so much information in your head without it exploding. Keep up the great work.
The penetration oil comment was priceless. I respect you too much to make a sarcastic remark. Thanks for another great video. I feel kinda silly for whining about changing the engine mounts on an F150 this weekend. We have no rust here in north Texas and the engine has an oil leak so all the bolts were penetrated with oil
Only people that have never worked on rusty equipment would suggest penetrating oil The struggle is real brother Who ever came up with the idea of salting the roads is resting in hell for sure Up here in Canada a little trick I've been using an old farm mechanic showed me was to spray the under side of all my vehicles with used motor oil and transmission fluid twice a year Lately I been using bar and chain oil two coats seems to last longer and doesn't wear off as quick Thank you for the great videos brother Have a great day and thanks again Just saying
It amazes me that none of the vehichles Wes gets in has been treated with fluid film, a bitumen type of product or even waste oil. Around here, a bitumen-based product called Tectyl was very popular before. Not so much now, as factory rust treatment is usually much better than it used to be.
Some day your son may want to 'join the firm' and help his Dad make repairs happen. An extra hand or two can sometimes be very useful. Thanks for the video and I'm glad the truck is on the road once more. Stay as warm as you can!
We had a similar experience with our International-got the part quickly, nice customer service, and not too outrageous a markup. Was worth it to get the right part.
Worked for Waste Management for 22 years, 12 years as a mechanic. Would replace camel back springs on the rear duel axle Macks and used a 4 to 1 torque multiplier to obtain torque of 1600 ft lbs on the U bolts. Also we could get around 10 to 12 years out of a truck. As long as the frame was not broken we just keep putting parts on it. Sometimes new packer bodies, motors and transmissions.
I hear ya about your holding pattern. We got a storm here in the Sierra Nevada mountains in Northern California the day after Christmas that dumped over two feet at my elevation of 3000ft. We locals call it Sierra cement. Wet and heavy. Power out for two weeks, trees down everywhere. Every road looked like bomb went off. We don’t get the below zero temps that you do but I remember them from my three years working in my brother in law’s shop in Glenview, ill. Glad to see your back up and running making videos. Stay warm.
Not going to mention what you did not want us to mention. I feel your struggle Wes and your complete frustration. I myself work on heavy equipment and had a heavy equipment and truck shop back in the 80's. Mostly work on Forklifts these days. Great vid man. Hang tough and hope to catch you again soon.
I’m asking bc I don’t know, but could you have used a torque multiplier ratchet for those bolts? I use mine on my brush hog and other tractor implements sometimes.
I worked on and drove all sorts of garbage trucks and I can tell you there all the bloody same , just use them till they let you down . Then fix cheap and back to work. Nevertheless I love the variety of the work you do. Keep safe and all the best to your family .cheers mate from Rick in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 👍 👌 😃
I'm really surprised to see the body is not hard mounted to the frame. Those things get filled to an enormous overweight condition. Having them spring mounted only designs in the positive-feedback oscillation behavior you saw when driving it, particularly after the mounts wear. Nice work on another hard job Wes.
Very glad to see you back in the saddle. I know you work hard every day and filming just adds to that. I just want to let you know how much enjoyment I get from your videos. I am a RN by trade and a classic car parts changer by choice. (1965 Pontiac Tempest) I use your common sense approach to assist in my automotive problem solving. Your content is much appreciated.
Oh this waked "good memories". I worked 7 years with old leaf spring trucks that were used in harbour and driven with constant overload. Rear spring change was weekly job. It took about 3hours to change one. The stuff they were hauling, was salt. So all "froze" quickly. OxyAcetylene was best friend. And natural finnish bolt tar.
Lots of questions about my mini come-along. It's a CM 602 model. Very handy. amzn.to/3fvMzVP
put grease on the gasket,couple spots. just re built a dizy,tiny screws with lock & washers, under a plate. with allen key, grease held them together. & on allen key..
Was going to ask!
ohh yeehh,,havve you ever come across kroil.???.. 22:00.. sorry..
@@harrywalker5836 Hey! Did you not hear his threat to shut the channel down? Your playing with fire....Just sayin! 🤣
We used them at work. They are a life saver . There is a CM plant just across the Tn VA State border where I live.
I did a lot of tires on garbage trucks at the shop I worked at in rural MN. They would leave the trucks loaded over night sometimes and drop them off in the morning. The heat of the summer morning would draw out maggots, they would then fall usually directly were I was working (of course). The last time I did tires on one, a maggot fell down the back of my shirt. At that time I already had another job lined up at the end of the summer. My decision was validated by a maggot. That job nearly broke me mentally and physically, 6 years was well enough service in the tire industry.
I love the chuckle following the spring’s release. 😂🤣
You never cease to amaze me with the variety of the rust buckets you repair.
Rusty crusty stuff slows the whole deal down.
and so often more rust than bucket...
You ain't lying this guy is like the superman of mechanics!
Get rid of that old truck y'all why you wanna hang on to a old truck it junk wore out 👎👎👎👎
Those who comment about, you should have used a penetrant haven't dealt with these kinds of issues. They don't know what rust has done to the fasteners, as evidenced by the fact that the threads were galled.
So many times I have tried a penetrant and then had to resort to heat, at which point, I discover why the penetrant didn't work. The threads were too damaged by rust. When you have to struggle getting it out after you heat it red hot, a penetrant would have done exactly nothing. Love that mini-come along. Kind of wish I had a need for one. I will keep that in mind in the event I do need one of those. Thanks for the video. Great troubleshooting, as always.
After the tour under the truck, I said a prayer for you, truck owners, and the truck.
Ok , let’s not break Wes ‘s , uh , chops about penetrating oil . It could be us having to working next to the hopper of a garbage truck . Ya know ?
This had me remembering when I was working in a junkyard as a kid . I was helping old Bob take the wheels off a truck . Eight lug full floating wheels . Practically every lug was TIGHT . He got out the acetylene torch and heated them up and i was to work them off . I asked Bob if I should get some tranny fluid to lube the studs . He said , “ I could get a girl to do this right now “ . I just went with it .
I never messed with old Bob , he was about 6 foot 6 or so , smoked camels and kept a 1903 Springfield rifle in his trunk . A veteran of Korea and ‘ Nam . My normal response to old Bob after he told me to do sometching was “ yes sir “ . I give Wes the same respect . He works hard .
About the only thing I can think of that would be worse to work on than a rusty old garbage truck is a rusty old septic vacuum truck - you are a good man for taking on these projects.
Hopefully, the owner had the decency to wash the smelly trash bin !
@@marcryvon Be thankful for cold weather.
We had a poop pumper show up at our house for a pump out. He had just come from a butcher shop collecting blood and guts from a holding tank. Oh ,the humanity! The difference in our old poop and the nasty truck was the difference between Chanel number five and Taco Bell farts
Wes - A trick my Dad taught me, he was a mechanic for Greyhound after the war (WW2). Use a single strand of sewing thread tied through the bolt holes to hold a gasket on. The thread is so thin it won't interfere or leak. Works great!!
Nice idea!
...or a dab of thick grease.
@@jimcrichton8028 or rtv
I think I have seen someone use a rattlecan sprac that just makes the gasket tacky for this only purpose. If I could just remember what the stuff was named.
yeah they make a gasket spray adhesive it was on south main auto doing a camry transmission pan gasket
Never leave a comment but today...it sounded like you could use one. Love following your work and your take on life's highs and lows...Tractors to dishwashers. I found you back a while, in a rare cameo on Diesel Creek when Matt was rescuing the loader he currently uses. While waiting for new content...I went back to the CNC machine and Fat Forklift and worked this way...I've got a ways to go. Keep it real, content is king...don't sweat the edits, and cut yourself some slack on the outros.
hear hear!!
Hard to remember when you first come upon a good channel, but I remember when I came upon this one as well, I had just gotten a 7.3 and I just searched and saw Wes, ever since then, always excited for new content
That is one of the things that impresses me. He is very diverse. Shows he is thinking his way through problems. You can't learn that many different things in a classroom. I saw that cameo too.
Ditto Wes. Love the channel ! You're looking like you need a break. Take a vacation somewhere warm, you deserve it.
its so fun watching new guys in skidsteers when the bounce starts and they make it worse. like wes said, to make it stop, you just have to take your hands off the sticks...but the new guy dont know that and tries to control the bounce. always good comic relief during the day.
tell you what, those little 1/2t chain falls are a must for anyone who works on vehicles and who are in the construction industry. i got lucky and picked up a kito .5t 10' chain fall, brand new for $50!! its one of those tools your damn glad you have when you need it or another hand.
thanks wes.
For a one man band Wes, you do a fantastic job, especially on things like this. It is clearly hard work on things so rusty with no help. Well done and don't lose heart in the channel. I'm am sure everyone that watches appreciates your dedication and commitment to doing a professional job.
Indeed; please don't listen to the Monday morning quaterbacks. I'm an electrical power engineer, and watch all of your videos without any judgment. I've bought many tools for myself based on your and Project Farm's experience.
totally . I concur . As someone who is disabled, Wes gives me Amazingly great tips for working on your own and its helped me immensely . Mind you i cant and dont work on Cars/Trucks or anything anymore and havent been able to in decades, the tips and tricks hes taught me for other things is priceless . Helped me to be able to to More than i was capable of or Thought i wasnt able to do . Now i can fix just about anything from watching Him and others . But ill stick to I.T. work as thats my expertise now, keeps me sane and in one piece . Cheers mate .
Finally someone on youtube said it out loud. Penetrating oil is useless in this situation.
Absolutely one of the single best mechanics I’ve ever seen work. Most amazing is he does it all himself. Watching Wes Work inspires me.
Enjoy watching your vids, I am a retired tech that spent 42 years in the business in dealer and municipal fleet repair, every video I watch I learn something new, please don't pay attention to posters who are critical or have a better way of making repairs, please keep up the good work and keep posting
Don
I worked on garbage trucks as a young man, I don't miss the smell of dirty diapers in the hot afternoon sun, or wrestling leaf springs under a truck. Sure was fun to watch you do it though ;)
You ending comment is great. As someone who used to be a mechanic that moved on to an office job back in 2015, I have to say... it is not bad at all.
Much respect for the work you do Wes. That’s a hard way to make a living.
All in the life of makin an honest dollar!
Yea and our country is in desperate need of more men like him. I agree with you completely.
They've gotta be not only some of the most disgusting trucks to work on, but also the most abused. Every one of them, if they're not brand new, is falling apart and being slapped with bandaid fixes all day too. It's a real treat to work on a fleet of these. The upside is that there's so much to do, you can basically create as much or as little work as you want. You can fix the trucks for exactly what they turn them in for, or fix any other broken problems you see and want to fix. Which can lead to overtime if your shop offers it.
Plus the owners of old vehicles tend to badly maintain their stuff, take it to him as last resort and then complain about the invoice. Classic !
Not a life for the timid. Wess is fearless!
Phenomenal video. When I saw that truck entering garage just paused and clicked thumbs up.
Watching you remove old rusted on nuts and bolts reminds me of the owner of the service shop I worked at who used to say ‘the impossible just takes a little longer’ Love your channel Wes!
Thanks for this video. It reminds me of a time before all this snow…. Ah the memories.
I am amazed the amount of vehicles that you work on that are in this condition and it’s like there’s no preventative measures put in place to help with the conditions of the vehicle making your life easy anyway Wes Glad to see you’re back on the job
They have laws there. No one can open a car wash. lol
Salted roads will do that.
Up here in Saskatchewan, that kind of rust would be considered catastrophic, and most reputable shops wouldn't touch it for liability reasons!
There is PM and Wes uses it ie.
Anti seize, lock tight, etc. the only problem is that what he fixes, will never have to be re-addressed again, cause those crusty vehicles will have something else fail, or they'll make it to the bone yard first !
Ahhh, the glamour….. thanks, Wes, for taking us along. Stay warm!
This is a normal day in a truck shop in Ontario Canada. Been working on this stuff for over 11 years and it never gets easier. Penetrating oil don’t do shit ever lol torches are your best friend. Keep up the good work Wes and stay warm bud. Cheers!
Lay penetrating to it after the heat. Sucks it right in. I know because I have broken more stuff than I would care to talk about. And then had to fix that mess too.
@@bobstratton6362I agreeeeed with that one
I think Dirt Perfect calls a touch a fire wrench.
@royordway9157 does he have a SAE or metric fire wrench?
dude... you work on EVERYTHING. So incredibly badass. Proud to live in the same state as you.
I'm disappointed that the truck doesn't have a snowplow hitch. It was born to have one.
Don't give them ideas!
Respect for the independant tech, you're a hard worker Wes. 👍
I just wanna say that you inspire me to continue working on my junk alone, I truly feel for you like when you were removing the old springs and thought to myself another guy there would just make life so much easier because I find myself in that situation all the time… much respect for you and the job you do, love the videos!! Keep up the awesome work!
The other guy better have cast iron fingers. Cause one of you is gonna take a bad shot.
You really do get the nicest examples of vehicles on the road
I spent seven years with the DSNY with 25 cubic yard Macks with Loadmaster bodies. I'm not surprised the springs were worn out. The bin men pack them until the hydraulics stall, and I did the same thing. The ride is indeed very bouncy when empty. I'm very tall, and I always managed to hit my head on the cab roof. So job done, top work, and lets see if it come back for more maintenance.
DSNY gets no love 😄
Please don't quit! I have two favourite channels, and you are one of the two. Ignore the goofs that live under bridges!😜😎👍
Glad to see your back, posting. You take care of yourself!👏👏👏👏👏
As a mechanical engineer who also grew up on a farm, I appreciate the intricate attention to detail some channels place upon mechanically restoring automotive things to utterly pristine condition.
But I also appreciate the brutal effectiveness (and black humour) Wes employs from time to time when working on big ol' battered heavy industrial/agricultural equipment. Do what's required and no more and keep these piles on the road!
PS Every single time that torch sparked up out of shot was pure comedy.
Wes, you're one of my favourite YT channels- and an insight in what actual everyday mechanics (who do this for a living) actually do. Not everyone has time to restore every piece of equipment to showroom condition- and that is perfectly fine!!
See what happens when you fix one garbage truck? Now another! You'll end up known as the "Guy who fixes garbage trucks right!" ...for better or worse!
The money is nice, but damn, the heavy lifting sucks ass
And snowplows
I'd be really clear that they come to you clean. Also, specify what clean means.
Wes, Do your back a favor and get a wheel rack for those big tires, had one in my HD shop forever. Our favorite tool!!
No idea how much you charged for these repairs but you earned every dollar with this one. Good on you Wes
"That's highway robbery!!!" Fine, have at it yourself. It is what it is. Not like a dry complete repair. You want to play in rust land, you have to pay the price.
"If anybody leaves a comment on penetrating oil" - Laughed my ass off. You're a funny guy Wes! Thanks for all your hard work producing these videos.
Just needed some Kroil for those bolts.....
Hmm. How do you delete a UA-cam channel..?
@@WatchWesWork Uhm, say [redacted] about [redacted] has 'worked' if unintentionally for some channels. 🙂
@@WatchWesWork , you had me crying with that remark.
@@WatchWesWork you wanna know the best part.... I typed this before you made that remark! 🤣🤣🤣
You work hard Wes. The vast majority of sissies raised in this country, parked on their key boards and smart phones could never hold a candle to you. If we had an army of you it would be ideal. Love the videos. God bless you Brother.
Know that you're making a LOT of lives better - refuse removal is crucial for healthy cities. Thanks Wes!! My office faces the street and every week I watch our collection truck empty our bins. The stop and go nature of the job is savage on those machines.
Talk about heavy duty work. Wes had to go all "brute force" on those spring bolts.
Another great video. 👍
Every time I see a garbage truck, I get a flashback to the time when I worked at a Ford dealership and a garbage truck broke down on a Friday. It was towed in and parked in the shop in the middle of August in Mississippi. The truck was full of garbage. When we came in on Monday, the smell was indescribable, and maggots were dripping off the truck.
Exact same experience for me in the 1980s. Only words I had to exchange were "Nashville and Labor Day weekend."
I'm learning a lot of tips for working on rusty junk! We get lots of rain in Seattle, but our stuff doesn't rust up like the rust belt does!
I like the very subtle and cleaver trick of spinning the bolt with the air impact before removing the nut all the way. Picked up a trick or two working on old rust buckets, ya did.
You are right Wes, very few options when dealing with a fastener in a galded condition.
Magnitudes of force multiplication are required. A 7X rivet gun is no bueno, get a IR 40X demolition hammer, (what we used to drive out landing gear pins on C-141’s).
You already have a Victor torch handle, use a #8 Rosebud instead of your cutting attachment.
When you put your impact on a bolt and the harmonics equate to banging on a piece of railroad track with a 20 pound sledge, put all of everyday tools away and go straight to the heavy artillery. Your chances of victory increase exponentially when you fight fire with nuclear weapons.
Have tried a lot of penetrating oils over the past 40 years. Kroil, Schaefer, PB, etc… still say plain old used motor oil works well for me.
But in the end you know what they say in the heartland, “Your hog, your corn”. Best to you.
Motor oil and heat works wonders indeed.
It's crazy how you can go from fixing Farm equipment to heavy equipment to heavy trucks to cars to golf carts to 4 wheelers to skidoos and whatever else I forgot.... great job you're a great mechanic!
Someone only has to watch you trying to get these rusted spring bolts out of the carrier to get a good understanding of how bad it can be and why older vehicles can eat you up with labor sometimes. Nice work. I'm sure the garbage truck customers appreciated their normal service didn't have a hicup!
Yeah, it's funny when people get upset when they look up 'book time', and you quote higher than they expected. Maybe when the car was new, that's how long it took to do the job.
I believe what ever you charged to do that job, it couldn't have been enough. I am glad you're young and big. I couldn't imagine trying to change those springs.
Everything is hard to get. We tried to order a new garage door from Home Dodo yesterday. They said, buy it, then it will take 6 months to get it. Blahhh!
Great vid. great job. I wish we could have seen it all.
First rule working on garbage trucks.
Never open your mouth when you're under it.
Those moving rice kernels are protein, but don't taste good. Lol.
8:07 A little grease, when clean, can hold the gasket. Also a guide bolt works well when installing.
Body hold down bolts with that block is a scale system to alert the driver of weight in the body. And 1 quart of ps fluid a week isnt bad at all for a 2003 garbage truck. And for the brake lights check wiring on top of body alot of times garbage pushes up into the harness at the top of the tailgate .
Glad to see some real wrenching back again. Real life problems real life solutions. What people don't really think of is the smell, repaired landfill equipment for years. Not a smell that just goes away. Nice work wes
I have never seen a garbage truck that didn't have weak springs on the back. We built our spring packs ourselves and added leaves plus added to the overloads. You need new mount bolts and springs. Back in the day, it was the Elgin-Leach company but I have no idea what it may be now. Likely been bought out at least once. I have been out of them for 20 years now.
A torch, the most important tool for Illinois mechanics. My first 35 years living in Chicago taught me. Moved to Phoenix, ZERO rust. Everything comes off like it was installed yesterday. Mechanics are spoiled out here. Well done as usual.
As a Canadian - we kind of know a thing or two on road salt and rust. The bright entrepreneur has his fleet oil-based rust proofed yearly. And maintenance crews are happy ! The equipment last way longer, is easier to fix and all. And money is saved in the med to long haul. Simple logic. Same with Rust Belt cars !
Hats off to you Wes, I'm exhausted just watching.
Thanks for Posting Wes so many would have scrapped the video. Real life that's what we are here for. Sometimes you just have to get the job done. Saw enough to understand and great explanation conclusion. We thank you for what you can bring to us and your explanations and commentary are uniquely you. Dazza from Australia
enjoyed this! i spent my career repair trash trucks on the metal fabrication side of things fortunately i did not live in the rust belt but many of the struggles are the same when it comes to packers. thanks for the memories!
Watching you fight with that gasket is painful. That's where I loved Permatex "High Tack" spray. I'm sure it helps seal well, but what I loves was the way it would hold a gasket in place during assembly. Those body mounts are common in my part of the world, but you did an awesome job with a video clip to demo what was wrong.
or a few tiny drops of Superglue? I’m no mechanic.
@@fantared5263 Superglue can cause chemical damage to some plastics and seals. I never risk it.
I had a power steering leak that I couldn't find on an 89 Toyota 4 runner, The truck also smoked pretty bad, so I was going to get rid of it. I had to wait and drive it like that for a while. One day I had a vacuum leak and noticed the vacuum line was oily. Turned out the vacuum switch on the power steering pump had failed and was pulling power steering fluid into the intake. I replaced that vacuum switch; no more smoking and power steering was sealed. Got another 100k miles out of that truck.
I always wondered what those little 1/4 ton ratcheting chain falls were useful for. Nice to see one in action. Thanks for the great video Wes!
I keep one in the storage box of my snowmobile, together with a 30 metre roll of rope. Great for getting myself out of trouble…
You are really an excellent mechanic.
Amazing work Wes, your ability to get these rusted out junkers fixed never fails to impress. Loved the comment about penetrating oil gave me a chuckle, vastly overrated when compared to heat! Makes for great content watching your skills when up against it. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
It is overrated for sure. But more important its not applicaple for a situation like seen in the video and therefore will not work. It will neither creep into the threads, nor help to crack that bolt loose.
All its for is to lube an exposed thread with rust build up when you remove a nut. So that the nut doesnt get stuck half way out.
I see the grass is green again. Too bad, the cold winter we've had would've surely helped with the smell when working on it. My uncle spent many years at the Leach plant in Oshkosh until they moved ops to Alberta in 2004.
I enjoy all your videos....I also understand being self employed.....no reason to apologize for the way the videos get put together when it is your honesty and work ethic that brings work into your garage- without that, there would be no videos anyway. Do what you have to do.....and hold onto your sense of humor.
No worries, you have to serve the customers first! Thanks for the vid!
Dude you are definitely my favorite UA-cam channel! I would give anything to be your gofor and oil change tire guy! You dry humor and tung in cheek wise cracks are just so spot on! So if you can use a guy to hand you a tool give me a call! Took early retirement so I work cheap!!! Oh almost forgot to say the main reason I enjoy your videos is because they are just so edjumacational!
Glad there isn't smell a vision!!!!! Stay safe my friend, Robin Jo from PA.
Once again Wes shows us the glamourous side of being a mechanic...
I can't believe you get all that rust and cold weather in Arizona. I am so glad you were working on that truck and not me. You sure earned your pay on this one. Thanks for the videos. Stay warm.
You are the Man Wes, as always good content and an excellent job.
Call them as i see them! You are the best case Ontario, I mean scenario for honesty as a mechanic other than who I trust here...
Me
Watching your ongoing battle with rusty fasteners never ceases to amaze. Great video as always. Stay warm.
Despite the unpleasantness of the tasks, you make an interesting video, always pleased that I watched.
That amplified Bobcat bouncing is what aeronautical engineers refer to as "pilot-induced oscillation", when the action of the hand on the joystick just makes matters a whole lot worse!
There was a place in San Jose, AC Spring., that would bend up any kind of leaf spring you wanted, often while you waited, if they liked you. You could come in with a broken leaf and they would duplicate it exactly. I think they did coil springs too. I searched and it returns a street address, but it does not look like the old place with a forge and heat treat. At least Pacific Heat Treat is still in Sunnyvale, but moved from its old location, though it never did automotive work.
It's a blessing the gasket fell in the oil, better that than the dirty floor, and now it will stick to the back. I usually use lithium grease to stick the gaskets on for assembly.
A pal showed me that my little DeWalt electric impact would take the harmonic damper nut off his old Ford Econoline if he just let it rattle away for 20 minutes. I was impressed. Your torch work sped that process up a lot, but we didn't have one handy and I would worry about a torch on the harmonic damper nut ruining the front seal.
I'm behind you 100% West keep up the good work man
Wes ,I come from a family of mechanics,you sir are a master , keep rocking on man .
I think vehicle archeology best describes the part extraction. More respect to you for this effort.
I admire you're willing to keep the sketchy, rusty and iffy just a little bit longer on the road...
You have the heart of a lion Wes. Well done on that job. Understand that your customer comes first and that you didn't have time to set up cameras. Stay safe you and yours, Norm.
i so enjoy your content many people dont understand real world situations in working on vehicles of this type it not always as easy as they my think or as simple as unbolt and replace also i thank you for your honesty
I started my apprenticeship in the early 70s when cars were much simpler and bigger. So much room on the engine compartment and many times your wife's nail file cleaned the points, you cigarette package provided a feeler gauge and you were on your way. Don't know how you keep so much information in your head without it exploding. Keep up the great work.
The penetration oil comment was priceless. I respect you too much to make a sarcastic remark. Thanks for another great video. I feel kinda silly for whining about changing the engine mounts on an F150 this weekend. We have no rust here in north Texas and the engine has an oil leak so all the bolts were penetrated with oil
Only people that have never worked on rusty equipment would suggest penetrating oil
The struggle is real brother
Who ever came up with the idea of salting the roads is resting in hell for sure
Up here in Canada a little trick I've been using an old farm mechanic showed me was to spray the under side of all my vehicles with used motor oil and transmission fluid twice a year
Lately I been using bar and chain oil two coats seems to last longer and doesn't wear off as quick
Thank you for the great videos brother
Have a great day and thanks again
Just saying
It amazes me that none of the vehichles Wes gets in has been treated with fluid film, a bitumen type of product or even waste oil. Around here, a bitumen-based product called Tectyl was very popular before. Not so much now, as factory rust treatment is usually much better than it used to be.
rusty garbage truck. this is your bread and butter content sir. please describe smell so we can really appreciate your work.
Some day your son may want to 'join the firm' and help his Dad make repairs happen. An extra hand or two can sometimes be very useful. Thanks for the video and I'm glad the truck is on the road once more. Stay as warm as you can!
We had a similar experience with our International-got the part quickly, nice customer service, and not too outrageous a markup. Was worth it to get the right part.
I just recently discovered your channel and it is my new favorite. Thank you for the work that goes into these videos.
Glad you enjoy it!
Worked for Waste Management for 22 years, 12 years as a mechanic. Would replace camel back springs on the rear duel axle Macks and used a 4 to 1 torque multiplier to obtain torque of 1600 ft lbs on the U bolts. Also we could get around 10 to 12 years out of a truck. As long as the frame was not broken we just keep putting parts on it. Sometimes new packer bodies, motors and transmissions.
Great video, Wes! I astounded that it is economically viable to run such an old vehicle in a first world country. Really amazing.
She's just getting broken in.
@@WatchWesWork hahahahaahahahahahahaahah!!!!! hufflepuff wrecking, recycling, and fix-it shop! :)
I hear ya about your holding pattern. We got a storm here in the Sierra Nevada mountains in Northern California the day after Christmas that dumped over two feet at my elevation of 3000ft. We locals call it Sierra cement. Wet and heavy. Power out for two weeks, trees down everywhere. Every road looked like bomb went off. We don’t get the below zero temps that you do but I remember them from my three years working in my brother in law’s shop in Glenview, ill. Glad to see your back up and running making videos. Stay warm.
Not going to mention what you did not want us to mention. I feel your struggle Wes and your complete frustration. I myself work on heavy equipment and had a heavy equipment and truck shop back in the 80's. Mostly work on Forklifts these days. Great vid man. Hang tough and hope to catch you again soon.
Love when you pull out the "hot wrench"!
I’m asking bc I don’t know, but could you have used a torque multiplier ratchet for those bolts? I use mine on my brush hog and other tractor implements sometimes.
Yeah I probably could. I actually have one. Didn't think of that...
sometimes its heavy and space is limited ,but yes if conditions allow. the bigger the pipe the looser the bolt
On the rusty box mount bolts? Breaker bar gives a mechanic some input on how much more you have before the fastener breaks.
@@WatchWesWork "torque multiplier", is that also known as a very long pipe on the end of the wrench? 😁
Yeah, it would have made the video longer too, watching Wes struggle to take that plate off the body, after shearing the studs flush.
I worked on and drove all sorts of garbage trucks and I can tell you there all the bloody same , just use them till they let you down . Then fix cheap and back to work. Nevertheless I love the variety of the work you do. Keep safe and all the best to your family .cheers mate from Rick in Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 👍 👌 😃
I love watching the variety of machines you work on. Your knowledge is priceless 👍
When you done the "bounce test" it almost looked like the frame had a slight bow in it! 😧 That poor ole truck! 🤣 Great job with the repairs Wes! 🙂👍
I thoroughly enjoy your content. I drive a truck and farm on the side. Your stuff is helpful and fun to watch
I'm really surprised to see the body is not hard mounted to the frame. Those things get filled to an enormous overweight condition. Having them spring mounted only designs in the positive-feedback oscillation behavior you saw when driving it, particularly after the mounts wear.
Nice work on another hard job Wes.
Very glad to see you back in the saddle. I know you work hard every day and filming just adds to that. I just want to let you know how much enjoyment I get from your videos. I am a RN by trade and a classic car parts changer by choice. (1965 Pontiac Tempest) I use your common sense approach to assist in my automotive problem solving. Your content is much appreciated.
Oh this waked "good memories". I worked 7 years with old leaf spring trucks that were used in harbour and driven with constant overload.
Rear spring change was weekly job. It took about 3hours to change one.
The stuff they were hauling, was salt. So all "froze" quickly. OxyAcetylene was best friend. And natural finnish bolt tar.