Zero FX Review! | A2 Legal Electric Enduro!
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2022
- After making many videos on the A2 legal Zero FX electric enduro I am ready to give you my full honest review of my experience with the machine.
Big thanks to English Electric Motor Co. AKA EEMC for the loan of the machine for a couple of weeks to get to know and bring you videos and a review!
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Love your work. Glad you took a stand on the heated grip thing.
I’ve just acquired my first ever hybrid car (because I can’t quite let go of the idea of 280hp of ICE power to the correctly weighted rear wheels) and school runs in full battery mode is a complete revelation. So much so that I’ve been windows shopping for anything electric that can green lane on two wheels all weekend. Hope you do more reviews.
Have you ever thought about reviewing Patreons’ bikes? If I get something electric, I’d lend it to you. (Yes I am a patreon)
Awesome video, very clear about the Zero bikes and electrics. Thanks
Another great review from Spicy, including great perspective, humor and insight. Def recommend at least trying an FX or similar electric. You might like it.
Fantastic job 👍
AWESOME VIDEO AMAZING FANTASTIC ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Headed down on Tuesday to actually buy one!
On a side note, I want to know what brand helmet that is?! It looks like a nice cross between a MX and cruising style helmet.
Excellent video dude, one question, and apologies if you've mentioned it in another video, there looks to be a mini lever, or switch, in front of your left index finger. Does it do anything?
That is a pass light button.
Electric bikes have come a long way, but they still have a very long way to go to be a viable option.
I bought a 2022 FX today for $10k from the original owner. He spent $15k total with upgrades, add-ons and tax etc. 1,000 miles. Drove it 40 mi home, and it is the single most unique experience of my life, this thing is absolutely ridiculous, the acceleration in sport mode is absurd. They definitely have a long way to go but oh my gosh, this thing is like a spaceship or a rocket, absolutely incredible. I showed up very hesitant to spend that much money and as soon as I started accelerating I knew I would buy it.
@@russellphotos195 Great!
I consider testriding this bike soon.
I really would maybe prefer the SR with a lot more range, well on the other hand the SR is more weight and more money.
@@russellphotos195and what’s the current update on your purchase?
@@obeii1805 Honest answer. I lost multiple spokes on the rear wheel three times and it took 21 days for Zero to ship a replacement the first time. The rear wheel was always a constant issue and my bike cut out on me two times while I was riding at 45 mph, without warning it came to a complete stop, in traffic. I was really lucky I was positioned like I was so I didn't get killed, Zero never diagnosed it. I have many email threads of them ignoring me, not getting back to my dealership and never following up in the end. Zero is a disgusting company and I now only ride Honda gas powered motorcycles and I will not touch electric again. If you get a bad dealership, Zero won't help you and you are totally screwed. I sold the bike for $6,000 after only putting 2000 miles on it, worst purchase ever. Fun bike but zero support is non existent. And my dealership, the largest dealership in arizona, was absolutely terrible. Go AZ Motorcycles of Scottsdale. Dude. Don't buy a Zero.
After the second time that it died on me in traffic I was done with the company. I have an email thread showing that it took 05 weeks to even respond to the mechanic at the shop, and then the shop mechanic never got back to me, so they never resolved the issue of my bike dying. My last email to them was me telling them that I sold the bike and I gave them the VIN number and I said that that bike cuts out randomly and you don't care about it do you, and they never responded. Fuck Zero. Trash company. Nicole and the other imbecile receptionist are the only ones who answered the phone and they literally don't know anything about these bikes.
Looks like my comment didn't post. I sold it for $6k, lost $4k. Bike randomly shut down on me twice in traffic, for no reason. 6 weeks later, dealership and Zero could not diagnose and told me nothing they can do. Lost multiple spokes on 3 different rear wheels. Will never buy a Zero again. Horrible company, and my dealership was horrible, and the bike was a lemon.@@obeii1805
I love my 22 FX!
i REALLY want to get into riding electric bikes. I grew up riding a 50cc Moped from ages 13-18. I miss riding on two wheels now being 32. My plan is to start with a Zero FX and ride it around my town for errands and daily driving. Maybe Upgrade after a year or two to a higher performance one. Then a few years after that upgrade even further. This video helped me decide the Zero FX is a solid starting point for me to get back into riding.
If your after road riding I think the FXE would suit better than the FX but either will do.
@@spicy110 I had the same thoughts! I don't plan on doing too much off road riding but I live in Michigan so there is always an opportunity.
However, I REALLY think the FXE looks super silly and like a kids toy. The FX looks much more mature and badass. Its something I've not been able to get over when it comes to the FXE and why I set my mind to the FX.
I would really just be using the FX to ride around town and run errands within 30 miles of my home. So I wont be doing a bunch of aggressive street riding which is why I think ill be ok with the FX.
you could always put road tyres on the fx and then you would be pretty much sorted!
@@spicy110 I had that same thought! If the normal tires end up causing issues due to being on pavement a lot, that is something I will consider for sure.
If I recall, this bike used to have two different sized batteries you could order, and you would pop them in and out. Did they get rid of that feature? Is the battery now secure within the bike?
Off the top of my head that is an add on.
Would have one - if I could afford it!
Hey Spicy, would you have preferred to have a rear brake lever on your bars (a la scooter) for off-roading, or is having the brake lever on your foot just superior?
The ideal solution would be both a hand lever and a foot lever, that's my end goal with my DS with the hand lever bypassing the ABS for riding off-road. A foot lever is handy for holding the bike still and lighting the brake light while keep hands free to do other stuff.
@@HomoKieran that'd be the PERFECT setup.
Yes, I agree both would be great! If I had the choice I think I would still have it under my foot just because I'm so used to it. Having said that off road in situations you need to put your left food down a hand brake would be much better.
@@HomoKieran That does sound perfect!
@@spicy110 Gotcha, thanks for getting back to me :D
Nice review, but why would you set up with the speedo blocked by your camera mount when you are trying to demonstrate performance?!
Your called ride fast and you don't get why that might be done? This isn't a video game it's real life and I like my licence haha
@@spicy110 You are not under oath so that's OK. Just wanted to compare with my Hayabusa memories, survived three years and got rid. Looking for a modern bike to suit a more 'experienced' rider!
Thing u gotta think about is electric bikes are expensive to buy, but theyre so cheap to maintain that you save money in the long run, guaranteed.
I talk about that side of things here ua-cam.com/video/zOaqLn3yw24/v-deo.html
When I park my ICE bike, I leave her in first, and to roll back into it, then put the sidestand down to hold her in place. How does that work with an electric, do they give a similar solid "lock"?
No, for hill parking you need to angle the bike and put the rear to the curb.
@@spicy110 my Dad had a mobility scooter, it had a lock on the brake to stop it rolling, I wonder if there's an aftermarket add-on that could be retrofitted to an Electric motorcycle to achieve the same end.
I love love love electric motorcycles but the price is killing me, I have a 2020 Africa Twin that I paid $14000 for and a 2022 CB500x that I paid $8000 for (both including taxes and fees), I priced a FXS at two dealers and they were both right at $15000 total, that's $1000 more than my Africa Twin and almost twice my CB500X's price, they're gonna have to come WAY down in price.
You should get rid of the Africa twin, get a Fx and keep your cb500 x
Here in the US Zero Motorcycles hold their value particularly poorly. What this means is that if you buy it new you are buying it because you really want it. But it also means you can buy it second hand for cheap. My main concern is where and how you replace batteries or really any spare parts. Do they expect you to take it to a dealership? They are pretty far away around here.
I have seen a few comments from you, are you watching the videos fully or just commenting? The batteries are removable for changing so no issue there and availability is ok I think! I googled around about parts availability and found no big threads or much at all of any issues. The other question is why are you replacing the battery? They are good for 1200-1400 charges at 100 miles per charge which is 120,000-140,000 miles. How many ICE bikes do you see with over 100k on the clock? Even then say you did need to buy a new one it is around 3k, giving all the money you saved in so much less maintenance that 3k is not that bad at all.
@@spicy110 Plan for the worst but hope for the best. As to why I don't want to have to replace the battery but I don't want to buy into something and then not know or not be able to. I wasn't actually able to find any sort of battery for sale anywhere myself. Zero sells them on their website but they only sell the modular packs which not every one of their bikes uses.
I did watch the video.
I was listening in recently at a national bike show where Allen Millyard was chatting to a member of the public about electric bikes and where Allen described a situation where he was being regularly pestered, against his better judgement, to try an H-D LiveWire.
Eventually a very reluctant Allen gave in and found it to be fantastic, surprising and fun!
This is why I think it is important to try your best to remove personal bias and assess a machine on its own merits. It is also why I try to never get stuck in my ways and hate everything new.
I just bought a 2023 FX. I am going to buy the 17" wheels and tires so I can have a super moto or an enduro
Love to hear how that goes!
wasn't this legal on a cbt at some point?
All of the fx range comes in cbt or full power A2 versions. I talked about it in my video last week comparing the FXS, FX, and the FXE I had recently. The FXE I had was an 11kw cbt legal version.
I would typically use a SuperMoto or “dual sport” much the same way, and for similar mileages, as you have in the last two tests. My question for you; Is there enough difference in power or range to offset the difference in cost between to two different kilowatt versions ?
Covered in detail in this video from last week. ua-cam.com/video/zJdNkGBuXJA/v-deo.html
@@spicy110 ; Thanks 👍
FX, FXS, FXE arent they the same bike just with different tires and stickers.
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Are these automatic?
They do not have gears no.
I still think it's hilarious that motorcyclists call paying >100 of any coin worth anything to unlock a feature on a Zero a "microtransaction" . My friend, that is a full sized transaction, I can buy a couple of AAA games for that price. Some of these transactions cost more than it took me to get my license!
I have talked about this before and I too do not like it. As far as I know there is nothing on this bike that can be unlocked tho.
Like a kid at Christmas lol
Now if they only made them to look like a cruiser...
Look, I just like cruisers, I've made that clear in many replies 😁. Honestly though I wouldn't have any problem with moving from a petrol to an electric, but as you pointed out in the video, until we reach a point where the cost of the bike can rival that of a petrol one, the market's just not going to be there.
Same here, something with the range of about 140-150 miles, 85 mph and a relaxed cruiser riding position and I would sell a kidney to buy it and if we could have CCS too, that would be THE package for me.
@@andrewmorgan6775 There are a couple of electric cruisers on the way by the looks of things, the UM Thor (an electric Commando, but still a geared bike), and the Hadin Panther. Details are thin on the ground, but as far as the Panther goes, it looks great from the side, but front-on the headlights and indicators make it look like a cow 😁.
did you factor the gas savings in the price? it might bring them closer to par for the life cycle of the bike
@@grantbradleylow2473 In four years of owning my bike I've used ONE tank of fuel, To make the savings it would need to justify buying electric I would have to keep it for my lifetime and probably that of a descendent or two 😁.
£12k!! Thats V Strom 800 money which is way way way more functional
Electric in this day and age for bikes is just for Mopeds riders in cities
£13000 for 60 miles range 🥴
Most Zero FX electric motorcycles are A1 .
All of them have same motor ,.battety and controller!
This has unlocked top speed..