Dirt Bikes for Prepared Citizens
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Can Dirt Bikes be useful tools for the prepared citizen? Josh links up with Christian Guzman to go over his sustainment dirt bike setup, the pros & cons, and how it compares to normal dirt bikes.
This is simply an introduction to Dirt Bikes as a preparedness tool. Additional dirt bike resources and content at dirtycivilian.com.
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00:00 Intro
01:05 The Modern Day Pack Animal
04:47 ASMR
05:25 The Sustainment Bike Setup
14:40 Backpack Dirtbike Setup
16:09 Performance
22:24 Purchasing Considerations
28:31 Final Thoughts
29:29 You Don't Want to See This
Never clicked on a video so fast
Fucking same
Me too
😂👍👍
Yep. Said it.
Shit yea. looks kool
I can't stress how much you need to have dirt bike and compatible implements in a disaster struck area. I was in charge of preparing to send medication for a landslide isolated area where it was going to take 24-48 hours to open the access for ambulances and sar team with heavy equipments, and having 4 people with dirtbikes ready for this saves a lot of people by sending first aid and survival gear to prolong the wounded survival time
Good idea I remember the book and TV show that was actually in so things that never happened to you for 5:00
Dog sleds in some regions are superior. Are you familiar with Balto?
I'm a retired military recon pilot and I think you're doing a disservice to you and your family if your not prepping these days. That being said, this is a video I've been waiting to see someone do. You guys knocked it out of the park. Thanks!
Exactly right, my friend,. Failing to plan = Planning to fail.
Paranoia is a bitch ain’t it
How come? Especially if the upper class is more focused on wealth building.
let me get started prepping, o wait no one has money
@@thefacelessone74 If you want to do it, you'll find a way.
Pro tip: keep your stock exhaust/muffler. You may need to be discreet one day. I love my FMF powercore on my KLR, but i keep me stock exhaust if i needed it. It is amazing how much attention these dual sports get going through town with loud exhausts. Put your stock pipe on and go through a small town. No one bats an eye.
This is good advice. I have a '23 KLR Traveler, and of course considering an aftermarket exhaust (probably LeoVince). But just as you said, I don't like drawing attention to myself whether it be citizens or police. The weight-loss advantage is negligible. De-snorkle the intake to make the Pig breath better and that will be enough.
I was wondering if a Storm Bee or an Ultra Bee might be better, especially if already into solar energy.....
Or even an add on muffler, silence is golden.
We had KLR250s at my unit in the Marines in the mid 90s, the stock exhaust allowed them to snoop and poop at low speed on certain operations.The visibility you get from standing on the bike allowed you to see more across tall reeds and grass and down into things.
To me this is the only advantage of a electric bike silence. Weather your hunting or being hunted silence is golden!
It’s so nice to see the Prep community finally catching up and intermingling with the biker community 🤘
Spot on.
I'm also glad that the tactical community finally embraced the airsoft community, now the biker community is joining the brotherhood, the 3d printing / maker community is also part of it now... I wonder when the rock climber community will join? Imagine the possibilities; Maybe abseiling has some tactical applications, or generally going places and traversing routes that are impossible to follow without proper equipment...
they all made it out the bunkers an from the basements playin fallout lol
It’s always dope when people who are enthusiastic about different shit find something in common they can geek out about together. Love to see it.
Survivalists have always used motorcycles, ever since the thought-meme began in the 70's.
In the famous old Jerry Ahern early 80's dime novel series The Survivalist, John Thomas Rourke traveled around on a Harley Low Rider, even going off-road with it, if you can believe that (OK, Jerry Ahern didn't know much about motorcycles. Traditionally, many famous professional Survivalists - writers, trainers, consultants, etc. - haven't specialized in motorcycles).
- KLR 650, customized with tube steel engine guard w/highway foot pegs, wheels blacked-out with Rustoleum Textured Black, mil-spec MOLLE tank vest (in coyote color).
I've been in a few SHTF scenarios. killer quakes, seasurges, civil unrest, war and stuff(I'm in the Philippines so it's normal sometimes). A bike is the only thing that worked most times. Except for civil unrest or war, travel during the first day is what id advise. And a bigger engine is not ideal. I have a 125scrambler that saved me a lot of times and allowed me to go places other vehicles can't. As for gear and stuff. Most cases things happened all I had access to realistically was a knife. And I can't tell you how important rubber strips are. I've used them for hunting fish into a spearpole, animal traps, bird traps, homemade slingshot with a small pointed projectile. Also small bikes don't need a lot of maintenance. One earthquake couldn't get gas due to long lines. Had to work with a quarter tank that gave me sixty kilometers. Couldn't pass roads. So I followed the train tracks all the while saying my bike can take it. Found my wife and her family. Stayed with them till things were safe. It was also real quiet. Can even climb stairwells and light enough to be carried over a wall by a couple guys if needed(during the lockdown we did this to avoid checkpoints). Only thing I'd add is some electrolytes as riding in an emergency it's enough to keep you going along with some water.
Very independent 👍👍
Avoiding lockdown checkpoints by hopping walls? We need more people like you
Props to my Pinoy brothers that resisted and continue to resist the tyranny there. My plans to go back in 2021 were thwarted by jab checkpoints at airports and mask requirements on flights (I refused to mask from day one, which ultimately led to having to find a new job). Here in the states, I avoided lockdown checkpoints by ... wait, I didn't avoid them, I intentionally and blatantly defied them. I don't live in Colorado, but It's nearby and when they announced total lockdown, my anti-tyranny mentality hit overdrive and I decided to drive through the entire state and a few others in defiance. I expected at minimum to be harrassed, if not arrested for my defiance, but even the police in Commierado bought into the fear narrative and weren't out enforcing anything. It was very eerily like an old twilight zone episode while driving through Denver with absolutely no traffic during what would normally be morning rush hour. What really blew my mind and continues to blow my mind is the fact that so many people refused to think independently, or do a lick of independent research, before buying into all the fear-mongering and jab coercion.
better with a pushbike in a real SHT
@@j_rainsgoat3929 it oral rehydration salts. Contains sugars, potassium and other stuff needed for metabolism. Combined with water, it's equivalent to a meals worth of energy and will keep you alive. It's light and easy to carry than food, though you'd still be hungry but your body won't give out. It's available in pharmacies.
It's absolutely worth adding a SteelStik to your tool kit. I've patched a quarter sized hole in a crank case with it, waited an hour, refilled my oil and rode out of the woods.
Excellent advice. That and mechanic's wire.
works on a radiator in a pinch as well lol
The Film crew and editors are absolutely killing it, great job.
I will tell you after surviving the biggest city wildfire ever that motorcycles were the only means of motorized transportation that stayed forward in an SHTF situation. Nothing other than bikes fit in areas and went where nothing else could. You are right on track here good content.
What fire are you refering to?
Gosh darnit I need me a bike
@@harnishc Camp fire in Paradise Ca.
@@scottwood1953 For Woolsey I got my fam out on a '81 Honda. I had a blast too.
I would highly suggest the dr550, drz400, klx300, tw200, trail 125 as alternatives. The dr bikes have insanely easy maintenance. Don’t fear the carbs!
We've actually discussed this. As a 40 year desert racer, I like the idea of fast, nimble transport that doesn't need roads. Have to be careful, because you aren't particularly stealthy, but at times there is probably no better option.
Do they make mufflers that will quiet them down?
I remember seeing some footage of Ukrainian AT teams using electric dirt bikes to shoot and scoot early in the war.
@@lionsofcornwall8475 Yes. You can quiet them down, but you lose performance. It's a trade off.
@@dankingjr.2088 you lose performance, but is it harder on the bike?
I’ll stick with my stock KLX muffler. Quiet, and great performance. The after market sounds cool, but when stealth is required, nothing beats the stock muffler.
I've been riding for at least 45 years, this has always been in my thoughts. A nimble street/dirt bike is invaluable.
As a retired Marine and a retired LEO as well as a former government contractor. A properly outfitted dual sport or adventure bike is the only way to go. Fast enough, nimble, great fuel mileage, ability to carry a moderate load.
John???............... John Rambo???........ is that you???
Don't be jealous
It would be pretty cool to add blackout lights for riding with nvgs.
And kill switches for the break/ running lights.
Oh it’s on the list haha
@@christian_guzman you’ve inspired me to take the 450 and rig her out haha did you get the bike wrapped or did you get a plastic kit?
@@Shootmoresuckless nice! I wash had a 450!
I just wrapped my factory red plastics with a heavy duty vinyl made by imagecraft. Easy enough to do!
@@christian_guzman sweet, I’ll have to start looking for some. I’m rocking a ktm 450 she’s good enough to get the job done but I’ve been wanting to get into a Honda again.
I think the next big bike purchase will be a Honda Africa twin tho haha
Like you said in the vid, maintenance on Hondas is pretty much full proof and cheap haha
There’s going to be a learning curve for riding under nods. Even driving under nods take alot of practice. Your depth perception under nods is a little different than without. It is very minute, but just a few inches could result in a nice spill.
The biggest plus to me in a bug out bike is simplicity, a dual sport that is air cooled and still uses a carburetor has half the things that could go wrong as a water cooled and fuel injected bike. The DR650 or TW200 are two wheel tanks and have been around forever and have tons of aftermarket accessories for them.
DRZ 400 is the perfect combination of the two. Enough power to run when you need to yet small enough for the single tracks. I love mine!
I don't much about dirt bikes but are most water cooled fuel injected now? I remember seeing someone on a 2 stroke on a farm when I was a kid and the speed/sound and smell was amazing!
I agree on the air-cooled stuff. I'd just add a Lectron or SmartCarb for ultimate reliability regardless of elevation
XR 650 would be the best all-rounder if you can find one
Totally agree. Less is more. Relying on tech is a bad move.
Handy tip to those receptive, put trials bike wheels+tires on your bugout dirt bike. They can run as low as 4 psi for insane grip on anything (yes, anything) and conveniently almost never get punctured or go flat.
Also general advice, if you want to go next level with your diet bike... buy a trials bike to train on. Best learning tool money can buy, old ones can go for very little money too
It seems to me like a niche, but really useful setup would be to have an electric dirt bike to minimize sound signature and increase fuel availability in SHTF. You could install infrared headlights on it to work with NOD's for stealthy riding at night. There are definitely disadvantages to this setup (mainly charge time and electric infrastructure requirements), but I do think it would fill a certain role quite nicely.
Electric dirt bikes have horrible range especially in winter
Getting an electric generator like a Jackery or BluEti would be good for this kind of setup. Camp out somewhere for an hour while it is juicing up. I would argue an E-Bike is better, though. When it is low on battery, you can still pedal like a normal bike. Also, I'm pretty sure some E bikes can recharge from pedaling, kind of like those crank radios.
@@DZ4295DBW Hopefully they'll catch up with electric car development and be a genuine option in the next few years. Companies like Solar, SurRon, and Zero are doing some cool things and pushing the envelope.
@@Necromorph72i don't think they will ever. Physics just work aginst them. The two main reasons why electric cars have decent to good range these days is because a) weight doesn't matter so you can have a big battery. b) electric cars can be engineered to be very aerodynamical, with a motorcycle you'll never reach that since the rider is the main thing resisting the wind
@@schadowization Ohh well, we can't really have it all, sigh.
Going moto camping is a great way to gain survival skills when you can't have everything too. You pack in and out small and find out what you need and what is excess. Can't wait to get out there this motorcycle season to film, camp, and learn new skills to share with my group and others.
If you really want to figure out what you need hike in a long way or spend two nights out hiking each day. That way you are willing to carry. Having the bike after that as a "beast" of burden is a luxury and you can either keep it real light as if you were hiking or load the bike up with extras on like more tools, parts or sustenance items.
Agreed.. welcome to motor camping.
Agree. I’ve camped many times in the UP Michigan on my VFR750. Great way to learn minimalist camping and enjoy the experience of it all.
I used to race MX and dirt ride on a budget. One thing I learned was not to fully tighten levers, mirrors (on the dual sport) especially on the bars. If you dump the bike, they can roll around the bars rather than break. Obviously they have to be tight enough to not move under normal riding conditions. Not breaking stuff you can't replace would be vital if SHTF.
One method was to drill a small hole through the levers just beyond what you absolutely need for your fingers. In a crash the outer part can break away leaving a usable part.
Wrap thread seal tape underneath the clamps on the bars and tighten it down. It will be secure enough under normal riding use but under some added pressure or if you lay the bike down they will move and avoid breaking.
I’ve heard of people wrapping Teflon tape on the bars were the mirrors and levers clip on and it helps them spin on the bars when impacted
You don't need mirrors in SHTF, but the rest of your statement is important to keep from breaking.
Some very good points on the Urban areas, another great benefit to the bike is that you can squeeze it through a normal door so you can hide it inside/out of sight if needed. Less chance of it being discovered, stolen, or fuel syphoned.
If you can brace it you might also be able to setup a lean-to tarp on the bike to keep close to it. I haven’t tested it myself, but when I get my bike I definitely plan to.
Great run down on adding this option to the Prepared kit bag. Which dual sport is arguable, I value reliability and ease of maintenance more. For me it’s comforting that I know how to ride, in case the situation required it. It’s tough and expensive to have all the resources and skills to be 100% prepared, which is why it actually takes a trusted and mutually supportive community.
I'm an engineer and prepper myself and I love how you explain speed vs reliability. In engineering, everything is a compromise, you can have a perfect race bike that has poor distance reliability or the opposite, but not both. Thanks for the video, keep making them please. Also, I'm a HAM radio operator and wonder what you guys do for off-grid communications other than CB radios or GMRS radios.
Ham radios without a license I bet lol
As you are probably well aware, ham signals are easily tuned into. As far as I am aware, ham is very low security. I do believe you can get secure frequency communication devices. However, they are probably expensive.
@@PaddleSquatch I do not believe there will be an everyday need for "secure" comms during an event which would require the use of ham radios for emergency purposes. 99.99% of the population do not own a ham radio and are not licensed to use ham radios (according to the FCC, there are a little over 500,000 ham operators in the US), which means they never studied to passed the test for ham radio usage. Additionally, by working with you rlocal prep group, you can have pre-arranged words and signals that only your local prep group will know what they mean, and so the very few people who will also have a ham radio and know how to use it won't understand what you're saying. Of the little over 500,000 licensed ham operators, only about half are active and have a radio according to the FCC. I do believe that having comms is one of the most overlooked important items when planning for survival gear packs, or disasters.
@@TexMexTravelerwhere do u need a license for hams
@@youtubeistrash2347 Yes, most countries, including the United States, require prospective ham radio operators to pass a test to be granted a license. This is mainly due to safety as antenna radiation can harm someone if they are handled incorrectly, and for the different types of legal usage. In the U.S., it is the Federal Communications Commission, or FCC. that regulates ham radio usage and testing.
I bought a DR650 a few years ago and it was completely unrelated at the time to my “gun life” if you will. And I really only bought it because it was a good deal. But the more I got into it I realized the connections that could be made between the two. I’m glad to see you guys pushing this for others
"Gun life" should really mean "militia life". The core of 2A is American citizens being armed, trained, equipped and ready for war. The American people (not government) is supposed to be the core of are military power.
@@skydivingcomrade1648 Amen!
Very true Mitch! The mobility aspect of a dual sport motorcycle is excellent.
Are Dr650s still sold in USA?
@@punyaslokmohapatra7528 They are. The price is about the same also. Great bike!
Id love to see a part 2 talking about "tactical" riding gear, a gun mount, a helmet that could be used with said gun, helmets with built in radios, and way to mount a loaded bike onto an existing overlanding rig/ main camp.
Rugged radios makes a moto kit for their “v3” radio… which is just a re branded baofeng uv5r. Has a push to talk to go on the bars, speakers and a mic for the helmet. Radio can be put in a backpack or on a rig.
As a rider myself, in woods and hare-scramble type riding/racing, don't give up on that CRF230. I own one, they are bulletproof and perform well if modded right. The perfect bike for this. Air-cooled so drop it as much as you like, no radiators to puncture, only a couple inches shorter than a full sized bike. So many mods to be found to make them awesome bikes without having to spend 6-10k for something orange. I have to agree with @vorteco7692, ditch that aftermarket exhaust and get a factory one installed, remove the airbox snorkel, and re-jet the carb. Starting with a 120main, and a 45-48 pilot jet really helps wake the bike up. If you're still searching for more power, get an aftermarket header and install it with the factory exhaust to keep things quiet, but increase flow as the 230 shares the same header pipe as the 150F. Awesome video
I rode a dirt bike for the first time last year at 38 years old. I immediately thought how great they could be for prepping,bug out and recon
Oh yes they are SF gets these little bastards and get to look high speed asf with them
Your production value is ridiculous. Absolutely spectacular job laying out and presenting your information in an easy to digest way. Liked and subbed.
FR, these guys don’t even have 50k subs and I can almost guarantee they’ll hit at least 500k within the next 2-3 years with production value like this.
Bang on. My channel is basic(different format) but this is epic.
During Hurricane Hugo the day after the storm there were so many trees down along with debris that the only way to get around was with a motorcycle, me and my Freind were able to survey the damage and go to supply sites for water and food and didn’t have to worry about gas for awhile, it made a bad event more enjoyable.
Well done guys! I’ve been on 2 wheels for almost my entire life. Dirt bikes are the mountain goat of vehicles!
Best lesson I ever got was “learn how to fall off properly!”
Looking forward to more!
If you're going to use this as a bug out bike I'd HIGHLY recommend running a mousse instead of a tube, completely puncture proof and will practically never run flat. They last me usually 3-4 tire changes and I've grown to prefer them over tubes in feel and traction. Virtually every team races them in the Baja 1000 and that should tell you all you need to know.
As a multiple times over Combat Veteran … You boys are doing it Very Very Right and in a lot of ways at that.
Also, if “they” are making fun of you about anything that’s how you know you’re doing it Right!!
Fantastic stuff keep it coming!! 💪
Concur. Just watched this one as my first example of their shizzle-dizzle, and the compliment is an earned one.
I've ben retired 3 years as of last month but y last unit was a Pararescue Wing (Born Infantry, but retired wit y own Chair (Force) up on the flight deck of an MC-130P Combat Shadow (I was the very last Flight Engineer to retire the very last Shadow out of the System...retiring 'cuz it's not "OK to be -J") with some time wrenching and spark chasing on sand infested flying egg-beaters in between.
Active Duty flying for the Silicon Valley Guard (Combat Search And Rescue), when CONUS we hit up every natural disaster area within striking distance of a fat and gassy gal and a pair of PaveHawks that had a hankerin' for tuckin' down low and fighting between themselves over my glorious wet hose (don't hate the Player...hate the Game), and I got to see a lot of what did and what didn't work out for the folks down on the deck in Hurricane Alley...not to mention playing with the PJ' spoiled Big Boy's Toys.
Been riding God knows how many legacy Gen One KLRs over enough years to make the old blind and deaf dog in the corner would get up and offer me his spot to sit out of deference to his elders. I've toyed around with most other stuff out on the market at one point or another as I have been riding whatever I could lay my hands on and burn off someone else's gas in the tank.
EXCEPT, ... not the Diesel flavor (among other fuels) of overlander KLR scoot scoots that airdrop quite nicely, but never manage to make it onto the gub'ment DRMO auction circuit.
At least...
Not yet.
Concur as well on the comment that if they are making fun of you, you are probably doing it right. I'm 47 and Silicon Valley has kicked out a few Unicorns from startup ideations that began life as a snickering joke that somebody later on in local life really wished they'd STFU about and taken the investor's plunge (my High School class kicked out more than a few Founders and Founder's core Teammates, all of whom hit figure #7 in their 20s before they ever changed diaper #1 (I was not so wise and sage...my boy is now 26 and I didn't move that same decimal point over until well into year 44 and divorce numero two-o - got the notification RIGHT after I retired that old 1Jody was back to his plumbing trades again, and had been hitting up my AO once more. :-/ )
These youngsters with this channel are trackin' proper and earned a subscribed follow.
When it's time for the video on bugout ragwing taildraggers with no engine driven electrical system (slant X-Ray) to get made, come holler (I'm easy to find on here, and fly/hangared out of KLVK, live on 18 ranch acres nearly between KCPU and KJAQ)
Keep it up, fellerz (uh...I meant the work on the CHANNEL...no, I did NOT mean to snitch one of my little blue pills, yo.)
TSgt "Farva" (RET)
West Coast Rescue;
(12oz curl undefeated champion)
(Can still bench 240...with duct tape and 2 Edward FortyHands full o' Mickey's)
Spent time in the military. Saw many usage of dirt bikes in operations. I was never interested in the riding lifestyle outside. Then we experienced the pandemic, I had to to moved and was without any kind of transportation for sometime. Seeing how things are now, had I known what you guys are doing I would have jumped on the setup sooner. Anyways, dirt bikes are awesome and yes I'm into the prepared community now much more so than ever. This is a good resource for starting out. 👍👍
This video inspired me to reach out to a friend who rides trails and have him help me learn. Boy is this harder than it looks. Definitely bruised and bleeding but the capability is an important one. I’ll keep working towards it 💪
I’ve been trying to get my friends to get dirt bikes the last 4 years for this exact purpose! This is gonna yet another reason for them to finally get one! Thank you!
I’ve recently developed the habit of dropping everything when Dirty Civilian uploads.
Rode all thru high school and a few years after. Haven't rode in almost 15 years now. Just got an xr150L to get used to everything again. Feels great. Really compliments the lifestyle of preparedness
im glad that i found this channel, it always has the most up to date and most relevant content for civilians
I've been racing and riding Enduro for nearly 20 years and using my bike as a form of "bug out" rig has never crossed my mind until now so thank you for bringing that to light. I can see a million and one uses for a bike now that I think about it.
I'm a South African who focuses on emergency preparedness, my main channel is a preparedness channel, I currently own a Honda Transalp xl 700 for its reliability. This was an excellent video, ''Be prepared'' - Scouts Global.
Its slower but bike packing community could add to this conversation too. Mtn bikes are a quieter and even smaller footprint. It also adds to ones fitness level as a sport
France had bicycle calvary in WW2.
This is excellent material and timely for me.I recently rescued a 2012 CBR250 where it had been stored unmothballed in a garage for 7+ years. After some cleaning and wrenching to get it running I've started the process of turning it into a combination naked street fighter and dual sport. We have UTV trails connecting where I am with where I want to go and I want the option to go off road faster than with my mountain pedal bike.. Limited cargo capacity requires a lot of thought and I'm enjoying the process.
I am new to your channel, I just wanted to say great job, the camera work, editing, and info given was first rate.
everyone is new this channel man
The military has utilized the KLR 650 with a dual wheel drive and a diesel engine. I've been told this can also be set up to utilize multiple fuel sources. I found this while researching for a "custom" bike base to start a project to meet the needs for an Infantry man and family member.
I personally chose to build an elec. Sport bike, full black out controls, FLIR Nav, GPS, and charges from PURE low grade solar at home, and can also utilize up to level 2 charging.
I am not aware of the dual powered wheels...are you sure about that?...Rokon is one of the only i jnow of.
@@reidcrosby6241 not the trailbreaker, though spectacular. I believe kawi, but don't quote here. Yes, thinking 650 single, carb, left side chain drive with cover, to universal shaft drive to comp for steering. Don't recall the '"final" drive from u joint down forks to wheel. Very, very, very limited. Maybe proto? Maybe it wasn't Kawasaki at all, but I really remember it that way lol. Idk I'll look when free tho.
How long does charging take on low grade solar to 100%
How long know level 2 charging
And what's the max range
@@isaacfulton7731 not GREAT TBO, lol. Roughly 12-14hrs(still tinkering) on solar, less than maybe 45mins lvl 2/240v, and range varies A LOT. In reg. Usually around 45mph commute city can see 70-100 miles very conservative, and 45-60 miles if you are hard on the take offs, speeds, and don't use Regen brakes often. Regen does also recharge well. I'm VERY new and learning as I go so nothing is solid. Hope this helps. I take a hit on the solar charge as a trade-off to completely renewable energy for my battery vs. Coal or natural gas. I'm also pretty bad at UA-cam but I should probably make a video about this lol.
@@AerialAcesRC13 it'd be cool if you could get a foldable portable panel set up. It's simple enough to bring 2 extra gallons and double range on a gas bike. If you could you can make your range "infinite" albeit slow. It would be Worth it
I like this a lot. I definitely get oldschool garandthumb vibes, more focused on information, preparedness and awareness. Thanks for the content!
Definitely need a whole series filmed around Dual Sports. Camping, Mods, etc
I’ve been advocating for these skills amongst the dirty civs for years. Glad to see y’all talking about it.
Been doing this for years, glad to see y'all are on board 🙂 Now if I can make a suggestion; 230/250cc will not cut it if you are evading a threat in a straight line, 450r/650cc are gonna be quick in a straight and still nimble enough in the single tracks while not sacrificing anything towards maintenance intervals. Also a packed out bike is much less nimble than a slick side bike, therefore in my experience a "lighter" backpack is the way to go with only extra fuel and tools on bike. When I say lighter backpack I mean think backpacking, ounces are pounds, take only bare essentials, no comforts. You don't need a tent, you don't need a sleeping pad. You need water purification, food, fire starting and a way to stay warm and dry. I love the idea of having a way to camouflage the bike in case you need to push on without it for a bit but you're not ditching it and this is really not a primary solution as you've said it's something to use for recce/forward observation or a quick push out ahead of your crew. Keep up the good work and I'm really digging the content 👍 solid stuff.
@MEOW MEOW N- Honda 650L I had a 400sm they are drastically under powered and you'll be searching for a nonexistent 6th gear 🤣 you can do a stroker kit and big bore out to 450ish and put on a mikuni carb slightly larger than stock and it will give it ok power but you're into the 1,000's on that upgrade.
@@shockadellick sure but there’s no way im taking a dr200 on the freeway in the meantime
@@Weltbummler23
On doom's day the freeway will be locked tight from coast to coast. That said, you'll need to make your own roads and like I said, 150cc to 400cc air cooled will give you the best chance at it🤨
@@shockadellick talking bout meantime before doom
I agree with you, but imo 650's chug a lot of gas compared to smaller displacement bikes, so it somehow defeats the purpose. Eitherway, it depends on the owner's preference...
Awesome video, built up a XR400R bout 12 years ago with 23L tank, saddle bags, 200 watt stator, added a lithium battery, tricked up the suspension and engine a little, its great for getting out bush for riding camping hunting etc, keep up the good work men
We use quads and mini bikes on our homestead and love that you guys brought this subject up
This was the video I needed. I decided last week I need to go this direction with a dual sport. I have never ridden and thought I was the only one who was seeing how useful they could be. Thanks for sharing this. So good.
I'm turning my SXS into an overland vehicle but a ton of my buddies have bikes and I'm definitely getting more interested in having one or 2. We're in the desert so having any vehicle that can smash thru rough terrain is a must in my opinion. Keep up the solid work guys, love the content so far. 👌
Ex-Leo here and i can say with utmost certainty we had a stolen dirt bike that we spent a lot of time hunting and every pursuit initiated on it resulted in him escaping to this day to my knowledge. The guy really knew how to get around that dense urban area so employeed it absolutely has a place in the prepper margin.
In 2010 I bought a used but already plated 2002 Honda XR400. I then added a Garmin 276c, a 4g IMS tank, a set of Dunlop 606 dual sport tires and re-geared for highway use. I then proceeded to ride it from Houston TX to Portland OR and back over a 29 day ride. It was unknown how much use or miles it had already been over the first 8 years as there is not a gauge on a stock XR but I put it through about 7500 miles in just over a month of riding everything from Interstate highways to long lost cattle trails and dirt roads. After a couple months had passed after my return I decided to give the engine an overhaul and preventative maintenance. I added a 440cc kit which helps for on-road performance but really wasn't that necessary. The overall internal condition of the engine was amazingly well within specs. Then in 2015 I trailer the XR400 to Pikes Peak CO with a group of friends attempting the annual race up Pikes Peak. While they returned home with the race bikes and the chase vehicles, I rode the dirt roads up and over the bottom side of the mountain, crossing the inner Colorado mountain passes and landing in Durango CO before heading south again in into rural NM and on back to my home in TX. That week I added another 2700 miles of hard dual sport riding. I would no hesitate to use my trusty XR400 in a "bug out" scenario.
Thanks for the video, cool to see others thinking similarly.
I have a triumph scrambler that I've turned into a camping/ overlanding vehicle. It's not as light or nimble as a dirt bike but it's quieter, over 150 mile range, and the maintenance interval is 10,000 miles
This looks like a Christopher Nolan film and I’m here for it! Such sick content !
This is awesome that you bridge these together. This is one of the main reasons that I started riding. I'm in Georgia and I plan on doing the Smokey Mountain 500 next year on my KTM 690 and my son will be on his DR650.
I’d also recommend a folding saw, like a ‘Silky BigBoy’. They’re light, compact, and can (quietly, and quickly) rip through most logs.
21 inch (common and easily replacable blade size) folding bow saws are absolutely a must just to own in general, and could be easily slipped onto some straps on a bike.
if i may, got the silky sugoi and katanaboy and i vastly prefer the much smaller sugoi. additionally, check out the single wheel trailer for dirtbikes, video here on youtube of it.
You are so right! I have the Crf250L and it got me threw the high gas prices in the pandemic and its way more capable than a 4x4 truck and even an ATV. Something everyone should have in a national emergency. Two thumbs up for this video
Depends what capability you need. Yes, a bike can handle more technical, narrow trails. But if you need to haul 4 people and a bunch of supplies in one trip, and no off-roading, you need the 4x4 with a trailer.
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I have a Lectric Ebike. They are pretty inexpensive and give me 25 ish mile range to visit and return from local sites quietly. It’s also legally a bicycle, so I can take it on trails and sidewalks and in parks.
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@@jeffreyhanshawsr4884 I personally have a DR650 with an oversized 6.6 gallon tank and an auxiliary 1 gallon tank mounted to the side..... But there's something to be said for a completely silent electric bike that can be solar charged in a few hours
@@jeffreyhanshawsr4884 bro chill, he was stating what he has and how he uses, he didn’t suggest it.
Besides an e-bike can be recharge solar
E-bikes are perfect scout vehicles, and with a trailer and solar panels you have virtually unlimited range. I found a solar panel "blanket" that produces 100w and could charge batteries while running, as a cover for a trailer.
No one thing is perfect for every environment or situation. Ideally, having a side x side with the e-bike on the back would cover a lot of situations if you are traveling with others. Use the bike to scout, then contact the person(s) in the 4-wheeler.
The important thing is to share ideas, not knock anyone's choices. We're all Dirty Civilians, and all we have is each other.
While it would be great to call in air support to move us, we don't get that luxury.
Unless one of you guys have a chopper.
If you do, can we be friends?
Stay strong.
We have QuietKat eBikes for hunting and its a big part of our bug-out plan. I bring an extra battery and a solar charger so I always have a battery getting charged while we're at camp. Sure it's limited on range and take a while to charge on solar, but it's dead quiet which is a huge advantage over a traditional dirt bikes. Best part is if the battery dies it's still a bicycle that you can pedal.
Has to be the best bike video I’ve seen and so much more . Thanks fellas !
this is some high-quality stuff you got here The camara work is immaculate and the editing is amazing
I’ve seen your last couple videos and have been thoroughly impressed by the video quality. I hope you guys can spread this perspective of life to the masses
dirtbikes have been a cornerstone of rural life and survival for decades. The KLR and DR have been the go to bikes for years.
It will be interesting to see how you progress with this.
Dirt bikes would be a great way to leave an urban environment.
I've owned a DR350 for going on 20 years. It's been great.
I absolutely loved my cr250f. I put a 280 kit in it, Rekluse clutch, and exhaust. I regularly chose it over my 450. It really was the perfect dirt bike imho
Good video. I love trail bikes or Dual Sport bikes. When I got Stationed in San Diego in 2001 I bought a well used Yamaha XT600 and rode that thing as a daily for 4 years (minus 2 deployments). it had around 110,000 mi on it when I sold it. It was great for riding from Miramar up to Ramona and Julian and down into the Desert.
I really like this idea. I'm less than 100 miles from several public land hunting spots. Loading up, riding there, and filling up in town before going off grid sounds like such a good way to get deep into the woods very quickly.
And the production quality of the video is just absolutely incredible
After watching a ton of videos like this I got my barely used 2014 250L first motorcycle. Using it to save a ton of gas and found some nice sections of woods to get away in. Practical and reliable. Not sure when I will go for the cargo bags but Im thankful ive got a good hiling backpack i can stow camping gear in.
Such a rad video. Definitely something I never thought about being so useful!
You guys are raising the bar on content. Keep up the good work.
Where has this channel been my entire life? 😂 You guys are crushing it!
Never ridden a motorcycle but you guys have me convinced… I think I need one
Aside from the gems provided in the video, the camera work and cinematic shots were amazing
I am so impressed with this channel already! You guys have your sh!t together! Production quality is ON POINT, and the information given is invaluable. Looking forward to more excellent videos and content.
I like your thought process on this. One of the main reasons I bought a dualsport bike , is the wide range of Terrain that it can take on. Regardless of brand or style a motorcycle is a great bugout vehicle. Nice job on this video!
The spit take at the end made me chuckle. My friend has been trying to convince me to get an ATV, mostly as a toy, but this definitely gave me something to consider about the 2 wheeled counterparts.
I love how cinematic this is
My DR 650 stays in my stable because it's so versatile. It wouldn't care about an EMP, doesn't require an electric fuel pump, and can maintain 70 mph loaded with luggage or walk down rough trails easily due to being so torquey and a low seat height makes it easy. Great video! Dual sports are a tool.
I worked on the suspension for the Montague combat bicycle 20 years ago, this is common technology in the mountain biking/bike packing/bike adventure world. My personal preference is an Electric assist mountain bike, they're silent, have a top speed of 28 mph, they're brilliant for hunting too. Throw an off-road trailer on it and you can pack out game no problem.
Id like to thank this specific video for getting me into dirt bikes. Picking up a 300L next month.
This is cool I hope you do more on this recently I’ve been thinking about trying to incorporate something like this into a shooting match as it would drive innovation on all aspects
Drew guzzling the raw milk is a mood. Love the content, got my KLR just for the reason of preparedness.
I haven't had to use mine for anything too hardcore yet, but it's gotten me to work and back during a few floods in waters that were a little too deep for my car to make it through!
You guys remind me when I rode through Asia, I had a very similar setup, and many guys were riding gs and stuff like that, and they were always having a ton of trouble with luggage and weight, while mine was extremely light and comfortable.
You nailed it get the Moskco Moto reckless 40L small enough for maneuverability & storage or Tusk saddle then a fork scabbard to carry a long/short firearm or fishing rod for you outdoor activity's. Leaving your body able to maneuver / navigate the terrain in a safer stance.
Impressive production quality, great job!
The ending lmao 😂you guys are killing it! Thank you for this education. Keep em coming!
I feel like your bike fit out would be mission dependent kind of like your tactical gear. It’s more personal taste than right or wrong. The key takeaway is the dirt bike is extremely versatile and a fantastic tool for a doomsday scenario.
Yes but dirt bikes are not street legal until they are street legal
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@@prots Dual sport solves that problem.
Love this channel. I also live in TN. Military vet. Great job men
Man, every one of these videos on the Dirty Civ channel is Dope!! Makes me wanna expand my capabilities as a man, a citizen, and a father.
We try to make content that inspires us when we rewatch it. Glad you like it!
I’ve been deep into this for years. In addition to weapons, I have off road trucks, one adventure, two dual sport and two dirt bikes of the Toyota, KTM, Beta and Yamaha flavors. Oh, and don’t forget the fat tire eBike for situations where you want to get to a hunting spot quietly.
Yes.... These boys are just now realizing what some of us have been on for a while. 2001 Chevy S10 Zr2 and a 2020 KTM 390 ADV are my vehicles of choice for these situations.
Great Video. One suggestion would be to add a small bottle of fuel stabilizer just in case you have to leave your bike somewhere for more than 90 days. Gas goes bad and typically doesn't work after 3-6 months.
The fuel stabilizer will delay degradation. Twenty ounces will keep about 25 gallons of gas stable for two years or more depending upon storage conditions i.e. location, condition, container type, etc.
I agree on Honda reliability. We have a pair. 1985 250XR and 1986 200XR. All we have done to them is change the oil and rebuild the carbs one or twice since 1991.
I just picked up a crf300 yesterday. Now I need to camo wrap it now that I have seen yours. I am in texas so it's the law I must have an AR holster attached to the bike. My whole life is prepping. bug out camper, bunker at the city house, two tons of packaged wheat to support my squad. just waiting for the lights to go out, then the hardest part; trying not to act too excited that it's finally happening.
Been waiting all day! Can't say I've waited for the release of a YT video in quite some time!
I am BLOWN at how many of my interests and hobbies are being discussed by y'all. Jokes aside, it is incredibly validating to see the homies out there doing real stuff.
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Agreed. Seems like the Western subconscious is preparing for something. Most males i know are on the same page. Carl Jung wrote about this pretty extensively.
@@percussivemaintenance7222 not sure any of this qualifies as "real stuff".
@@klxcountry compared to the overwhelming trend of disengaged youth devoid of tangible real life skills, I believe this qualifies.
cool video mate! dual sport riding is part of our culture here in Australia! we love dual sport rigs.
My choice was the Suzuki DR450 for the same reasons stated in your video.
I also like that they've changed so little since the 80s, which means aftermarket parts are cheap.
Love the video.
DDrz400sis what you mean im thinking
Did you mean the DR650?
@@ACRONS047 typo. Yes..
We call them bush pigs here.
Loud exhaust's are great for clearing a path of wildlife but cause exhaustion and later in life heart problems. Also I would have a spare set of tires or preferably wheels. I would say upgrade the headlight bulb to leds same with the tail light and get a lighter battery, also bash guard, better air filter thats washable. Depending on the bike if you have access to a dyno look at how other grades of fuel like 91 perform, usually considerably better and consider upgrading your chain and chain wheels to lower RPM to ride heavy miles. More than anything the rider should be fit and trim.
These bikes are all quiet from the factory
The heated seat and handle bars are a great idea.
Great video. Glad to see the crossover into other topics like this,!
Bought a klx300 for sort of this reason. I'm 19, I see the climate our country is in, and if things were to go south it would serve me well, being cheap on gas, can basically go anywhere, and is very modular. For now though, I am going to use it for commuting and just as a daily driver.