How to Adjust and Set Up Your Hi-Hat Stand (Beginner & Intermediate)
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
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Thank you SO much! I'm a 60-year-old woman who just got her first drum kit (after 40 years of wanting one!). It's basically just a kid's set, so that I could really make sure that it's something I can pursue before buying something more expensive, but I DID decide that it needed a hi-hat (ride cymbal is probably next). I was having a hell of a time making it sound right, and now after your one short video it's been adjusted and sounds great. Now I just need to learn how to play it all properly...
English is my second language. I'm learning English as well as drums. The way Bob talks is easy for me to understand. He talks relatively slow in my opinion and that is good for me. Thanks for the post, Rob !
Your writing is perfect. Good job 👍👍
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I'm glad to hear that. Thank you for your post!
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Thank you for cheering me up💕
Dude, these vids are epic... it’s like you do the “elephants in the room” topics... I am a hobby drummer that’s self taught... totally get the hi hat now man! Thanks (subscribed)
Nice. Welcome to the channel 🙂🤘🏽
Thank you! I am 60 years old and just got my first kit. I am over the moon with this site. With Covid not too many people are giving personal lessons.
Truly a beginner. Nice to have a pro to help me out. Thank you!
This man is a gift! Every single video - instant improvement..
Thank you so much for the info on 'fixing' the long spindle which my grandson thought was broken - saved .me the cost of buying him a complete new high hat. Great videos you've got on here
I’ve watched a few videos that explain hi hat ergonomics, but none explain it as well as you do. Thank you!
Been playin' for 10 years, still did not know the nitty gritty on Hat stands. Now I do. Rob, your vids are awesome and excellent.
Having professionals like Rob on UA-cam is such a leap forward for drumming education. For most of my life, I had to find information about drumming techniques by listening to my teacher, trying to interpret images from drum education books, watching drummers playing on Tv and live, and finally saving up questions for when I visited the local drum store. Now you can browse the Internet and get direct access to excellent and varied audio-visual lessons made by some of the best.
Position of accessories on your kit and ergonomics. (sorry it's a long comment but I think it is useful)
I just want to add body mechanics to this great advice. It will save serious wear and tear on your back and joints if you want to play for 50-60yrs. I know because of the damage and pain I have from incidents related to being a musician.
• Why not play on like Charlie Watts who layed down beats till he was 80yrs. RIP Charlie Watts - The Rolling Stones•
Anyway, I have been playing drums for almost 49 yrs and have found with hi-hat position that the degree the hats are locked open by the clutch affects your timing and if the gapping and placement of the hats are not comfortable you can tend to have sloppy timing. I discovered that I was exerting more energy with my left foot (for most of us right-handers) to close the hats while my right foot was laying down the bass pedal rhythm if my hats were not adjusted and positioned comfortably with good claws or a small sandbag to stop them slipping during a gig, recording and practice sessions. Once I found the best position I marked kit layout spots on my drum rug and little paint marks on my accessories sort of like the memory locks that exist now. ( If you are playing a gig you may want a lightweight carpet similar to the lining used on a car floor to place on stage with all your drum kit positions marked out. (then if your lucky someone else can set your kit up exactly as you like it)
It's like having two glasses of water filled with the same amount of fluid. The right leg beats the bass drum while the left leg controls the hat. For example, emptying the glass (relaxing the muscles) is when the hat opens and refilling the glass to the same amount means the leg/ankle/foot muscles are engaged to close the hat. Of course, there will be variables with emphasis on bass beats or tap slapping the hats to achieve a longer opening ring of the top hat cymbal. Then there is the heal-to-toe variation on pedals. (probably a subject for intermediate drummers to investigate)
By getting some even equal pressure on the left and right leg muscles you can play smooth and reduce tiring your leg and losing time. (Think about it if you are playing two 1/14hr sets a night with 40 mins between sets. It is tiring)
Finally, your body height, leg and arm leg length will have to determine where you seat your hats in relation to the snare for comfort. I am 6ft. 1 and raise my seat so the belly area is in line with the snare rim. Mind you that belly of mine has dropped a bit over 60yrs.😅
Consider keeping the snare almost horizontal for consistent drumstick contact (i.e. velocity) and for playing rim shots and especially different beats like Afro-Cuban beats like rhumba and Cha-Cha rim-snare patterns. Do your research and see what the experts say.
I find after studying many drummer's approaches that this seems to be a pretty good guide. It protects your back from serious strain over the years. Finally, don't forget to work on developing equal strength in both feet as you are with both hands. Rock and drum on ladies and gents and watch all of Rob's video tutorials because they are
great. BTW, Rob is spot on about cheap Hi-Hat clutches and the same for slipping cheap pedals both bass and hi-hat. Plus watch his hi-Hat development video.
If you lean your bottom hat away from you, rather than towards you, you won't chip n chew ur sticks up as much either. Just another small tip I learned
a guitarist getting back into drums and I been overloading on different players but I finally subscribed to you cuz of this video! "So THAT'S what that screw under the hi hat is!" Thanks, Rob I'm digging all of your stuff
Nice video Rob, thank you so much. I've used the technique you describe with the thumb and pinky to set the distance between hi hat and snare. It's worked countless times for me. Thanks again for the great advice!
I've been trying to figure out what am I doing wrong with my left foot/high hat/setup and all. I couldn't play comfortably with the way the store had my high hat stand setup. This was everything I needed. Thank you so much.
Love your videos!!! I am a beginner drummer, and love how detailed and super helpful!!!
Thank you sir, setting up my 1st HH in my home studio after about 58 years of playing mostly guitar. Great job, next move is getting a new clutch. Preciate it.
As a brand-new drummer who is learning what I can.... this video was incredibly helpful! Thank you for taking the time to really break it down in detail!
Rob, you are the best. Humble, clear, and generous on sharing your knowledge, keep rockin..! Best regards, and thank you. Joe
Great tips! Some things this 30+ year drummer didn’t know. Thanks, Rob.🤘🏻
Hi. Great simple explanation for setting up the Hi-Hats. At 59 years old I decided that I wanted to learn the drums properly and your videos are really helpful to someone who does not yet have the knowledge, and experience, to set up correctly. You are not like a lot of the other 'help' videos who seem to spend more time talking about themselves and how great they are than actually helping beginners like myself and that is so refreshing to see. Keep on helping and, who knows, maybe one day I might just find myself being more than just a good beginner! (Subscribed)!
This guy straight up just says the thing I've been waiting to hear every time. Thanks Rob!
Love the vids Rob. Switched from playing guitar for 20 years to drums and digging it. Your vids are easy to understand and I’m already taking notes on upgrading pieces after I make sure my timing is solid and can play with some songs. Tuning....that’s always a work in progress! Will pick up a Drummer For Hire shirt for wear maybe in later 2021!
No matter what level of drummer you are you can always learn something . Having your hi hat in the right position . And adjusted correctly is extremely important. Think about how much we use it in our playing . These were some great tips . And a good review. As always thanks. And it’s cool that you do lessons for drummers of all abilities. Thanks man
I’ve been playing for a good 35 years, and I can attest to spending on good hardware. (Or at least the best you can afford). Mine is now DW 9000 and Pearl. You won’t go wrong spending what you can for quality.
Great tips again Rob. Thanks. 👍🏼🇨🇦
Great tips again Rob. 👍🏼
So helpful, thanks to you I'll be playing like a pro in no time. Thank you, Rob!
amazing... I've been learning by myself and the tilting part made a huge difference!!
Mr Brown Great video! Extremely helpful for beginners too. Thank -you
This was so helpful! Thanks!
I just got my drum set .thanks for making this video
This vid is perfect, trying to set up my first kit! Thank you.
Thanks for the help on tweaking my new kit. This video and the snare drum adjustment made a huge difference. Going to look through all your set-up videos for the fine tune. Loving your vids...laid back, fun, inspirational and really well produced.
Great vid on the HH everything you talk about is a great reminder of “everything is about the small things. “
Thanks for tutorial on proper hi hat placement, going to apply those techniques to my stand today. 👍
I just would like to thank you for this very useful detailed video, thank you so much!
This video was super helpful! I recently started learning drums and I have an electric kit at home so setting up a hi-hat on acoustic kits is always daunting to me.
I'm a guitarist and new drummer. Just subbed, thanks man!
Thanks Rob, a great lesson!
Thank you! You just saved me some bucks chasing more expensive hats.
Super helpful video. Many thanks!
Thank you. That was very helpful.
As always, sound advice- thank you so much!
Thanks very much!! Wonderful and for a jazz pianist trying to get into drums this is just what I needed!!
I love how you declare, “….MY beginners”. It’s so TRUE! I AM , YOU’RE beginner, from the day I decided to learn. You are the Boss, thanks.
I watched it all and I was "good to go" after.
The tips on spacing between the hats and the exaggerated bottom hat angle made all the difference in my hi-hat paying. Thanks for a well made and informative video!
DUDE!!! Thank you so much!!! I bought a drumset almost three years ago, been playing almost daily, and never saw these adjustments!
Priceless information!!!
Love your vids, bro! Keep it up!
Utter beginner appreciates the attention! Thank you!
Ty! New drummer, setting up my new set.
Great info for a beginner like myself. I purchased a like new stand earlier today for my first kit.
Great tips Rob! I will be making some adjustments in the morning.
Great explanation brother. Thank you
Cool! I learned a couple things... lower hat at a angle, and that there are better top clamps... the difference between a set screw and a proper shaft clamp!
I really a appreciate all the videos you do, after taking a break from drumming for 13 years I'm back to it. I've learned soooo much from you, wish you were around when I first started 56 years ago along with you tube. Keep up the great work bud!!!
Thanks for this excellent video, that was helpful and fun to watch! Peace
Just got my hats in the mail today! And installed on my new stand. What can I say. It works. Thank you 🤘
Awesome video Rob, thanks man!!
I'm a 57yo drummer in a garage-rock punk band, yeah beatin my kit like a 20yo, LOL...
Cool tutorial on hihat setup!
I used to smack my snare hand often
while playing my hat... I solved that problem by raising my hihat higher, now I play my hats at chest height with
the hats all the way to the top of
the pull-bar, tilted, so I can chick it
and play some nice bell rides on
the hats without smackin my snare hand with my right-side stick.
Thank you so much! Lots of new info!
This newbie thanks you! I’ve just cleaned up a Tama hi hat that I bought recently and I’m in the process of setting it up 👏🌹🇦🇺✌️
Excellent! It’s 7:37p and I just adjusted my hi-hats correctly. Hopefully, the neighbors understand. Great video! 😂👍🏻
Thank You 🙏🏾 this video was so helpful ❤️
Thanks, Rob!
Thanks brother,,.found exactly what i needed.!
Thanks Rob for the video. I have 1 extra adjustment: i like the angle of my left foot when hi hat is closed same as the angle of my right bass drum foot when the beater hits the bass. This way ...if i move my feet the same way ...the click and hit are exact at the same moment. So for instance for a disco beat wityh a bass drum on 1234 and with open hi hat on all &'s the close of the hi hat has to be on every beat exactly the same as the hit of the bass drum. I now just can move my legs the same way up and down and the open hi hat will be OK and also the close will be OK at the same moment as the bass drum.
Thanks Rob!
Cool. Hi-hats rule. Love sloshing the hats. 🤘😀👍
Great videos man! I'm learning alot.
thank you Rob for the lessons about hi hats and hi hat stands. Ive already improved after watching and listening to you. I do not think that there is not enough information with regards to the hi hat stand and hi hat cymbals and this is really surprising considering that, well, in my opinion and hopefully many others that this is the most complex part of a drumkit ?
Omg getting an actual clutch made such a difference. My set just came with a cheap stand that had a regular old nut. So you had to choose super tight top hat or have the nut fall off every session. Good clutch is amazing. Then I went and bought a used DW3000 stand like two weeks later. But hey, two fewer weeks of suffering!
Thank you Rob!
I really enjoy your thorough explanations. Thanks for sharing! (An old, self-taught drummer getting back into it ;-) ...✌🏼Peace&Love
Thanks brother. I only knew about half of what you showed me.
I already knew about the clutch thing though months ago, before I knew about your channel. The kit I was playing on. I upgraded a couple of things, and I changed out my hi hat stand for a better one and I got a Gibraltar clutch.
But you show me about two things here I wasn’t even aware of adjusting. I pretty much left those 2 things as is. But I’m gonna try what you said.
Great video, thanks!
Nice video. Thoughtful. Complete. What I've come to expect from Dr. Beatdown. The only thing I might have possibly added is a mention of some of the quick release 'drop' clutches that release and drop the top cymbal down when tapped with a stick so you can play the hat with a stick (kinda) even with your left foot on a double bass pedal and then tap down with your foot on the hi hat pedal to re-engage the mechanism to lift the top cymbal back up again. Gibraltar SC-DC is an example.
Consistently great videos
nice tips
Great explanation thanks!
Thank you great video!
Thank you!
Good tips!
Nice video! Thank you. Trying to decide on the 1200 D or T. Hmmm
Normally i put the bottom hat tilt adjustment screw close to me to keep the wider open side on the other side and the side with the hats closer ir touching nearer to me to have a more consistent playing surface and better chic from the hats, but I got a new pearl H1050 hihat stand and I was surprised that the tilt screw can be on the other side and the closed hats side is next to me.
That's the only stand I've ever seen do it that way.
And that's compared to two Ludwig, two tama, a sonor and Mapex hihat stands.
I've got a tama star set but I didn't like the tama stands and this pearl H1050 is great.
I don't use two leg stands because every one wobbles when you're jamming. And the H1050 legs rotate 360°.
I think before I got this, my favorite was my old sonor, but from the several new stands I've had, i got rid of them all and stuck with the pearl H1050.
Thanks
Thanks for this, my hats sounded awful practising today, gonna try this & see if I can make them sound.... less awful 😬🥁
Hi Mr. Brown, thank you for your tips. I hope you could feature how to play on the hi-hat with the different gaps.
Thankkkk you you help me alot
Fantastic as always player, well done
cuppa drums
Thank you so much
Hi Rob! Great information again. Can you please tell us which HH clutch do you use if you can tell?
Huge fan of you!
Cheers!
Thanks for explaining how to set up hi hat ....
I was surprised to see my brand new expensive Mapex Falcon hi hat stand came with the same kind of clutch you mentioned that pushes against the rod. It has the fancy quick release mechanism for the top hat, but they totally dropped the ball on how it connects to the rod. So I quickly got the Gibraltar Turning Point clutch with the much better eye bolt style connection to the rod and it's been great. I have two of them, one for each of my kits. I love Mapex and have no problem spending primo bucks for their Falcon hardware. But was disappointed they didn't put much thought into the small details.
Mapex sucks, the only good thing from mapex is the MC903 multi clamp with two swivel joints.
Mapex has more stupid names for their models than Pennsylvania has town names.
A real sign of Chinese quality, saturn, mars, falcon, eagle, gold, platinum, super deluxe.
Maybe they think they can trick people in thinking its good using names like that.
Thanks!! 👍👍
Hello Rob Brown, thank you for all your information and lessons. I see that you are working with the new Zoom livetrack L-12 recording mixer which has compressors, EQ etc... Can you tell me what you think of this table with its strengths and points? weak. Thanks.
Stephane
Did not know about the tilt!
Great tips man! What would you say about the metal guys who always play open hats and have a double pedal set up? What would be the optimal cymbal gap for the perfect heavy metal sound and best placement for the stand with a double pedal? I’m a fairly tall drummer who does a lot of double bass stuff and to be comfortable with my left foot, I find myself putting my hats a little too far away. I’ve tried turning the legs to accommodate the left kick pedal but I still can’t get my hats close enough.
Hi Rob just bought what seems to be an older Yamaha 700 series high hat stand as I upgrade my hardware , incredible stand and great DW double clutch as I am just starting to learn the double pedal ( doubt I’ll use it much but good to learn ) anyways that video explained some new stuff thank you . Question , I am a pattern of yours but on my other account , does your site have a place I can switch my email back to this one as I miss stuff and don’t use that one much so I want to delete it but not lose our contact and patreon info . Thanks again Beatdown ! Fuji .
You da man !!👍
@ Rob Brown,
What are your thoughts on drop clutches?
If you position your hi-hat leveling screw facing you (the opposite to how Rob has his in this video), the top hat will overlap the bottom hat and cause less stick shank wear.