HOW TO ADJUST Your KICK PEDAL For TOP PERFORMANCE
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2018
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*HEY FRIENDS! I had to rush and get this one out to y'all today 'cuz my week is slam jammed! So it was either today...or next week! Many of you have asked me about pedal adjustment. So hopefully this'll help you out. Happy International Drum Month, man!* 🥁🌎🤓
ive got a mapex p 750 a and i cant play fast stuff with it at all
Best bass drum pedal instructional video ever!
Rob Brown Beat Down 4 sho!
@David Sinclair you just started in December 2017? Is it really difficult learning or did you came from a background of musicians?
If this is posted twice I'm sorry. I'm new to this. Yo. Great vid. My pedal is set as far back as yours Rob. However, the left beater keeps slamming painfully into my foot occasionally. Made some adjustments but now it plays with some intense latency. Any suggestions?
I play loud rock. So..toe down all the time and I burry the pedal all to keep the same kick loudness at all times to fill the room.
Mr. Brown, I want to personally thank you for your humble advice. I am 60 years old and I have been playing 53 of those years. I have taught students and have been taught. I was thinking about hanging it all up and watch you youngsters throw down because i am starting to slow down in my later age. I am getting a complete shoulder replacement and because of your advice and approach to the drums, you have inspired me to keep on keeping on and keep the beat as funky as my body allows me to. I want you to know that YOU ARE TRULY MY HERO AND I GIVE YOU MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT!
Musicians like yourself are very rare and valuable to the business! I am very honored to have viewed your lessons and I have also learned from them.you have given this old man new life. Thank You and May Gods Blessings be upon you throughout your entire life forevermore!.
Respectfully,
Scott "Mr. Till" Tillman III
Wow! Thats a long and beautiful comment, love it :)
Nice man, real nice😊
Amen.
Mr. Till, your comments are compassionate dissertation to Rob Brown and how he affects you . I ditto your comments. Rob provides a great service to drummers of all calibers and player levels. At 69 years old with plenty of spinal issues and arthritis permeating many of my joints, I have taken to playing drums after a 55 year Hiatus. The arthritis and the COVID pandemic has finally forced me to "retire". In 2018, for Xmas, my wife was good enough to gift me a new cheap Gammon drum set [when I used to play at age 15 to 18 or so in a Basement / Garage band with HS friends (aspiring musicians) we called it a Drumset not kit]. I have been tinkering with it since. I play for fun and for the love of My Music in my new Basement Studio. I have watched numerous drumming videos: Drumeo, the 80/20 Drummer, etc., and others including of course, Rob Brown. Mr. Brown is one of the best. Practical pertinent practice techniques, drum and drum accessory tuning advice is so much apprecitaed
I am 60 as well. I almost did the same thing. Rob is the best. I also have some new life on my drums. glad you are still playing
The only advice I would add is.........if your beater is that far back DO NOT wear super baggy pants! As it can can caught up ✌️ nice vid 👍
True story, man 😑
If you have a longboard pedal, you have some more playroom. I have a Trick Bigfoot and it gives you a lot of playroom back and forth. But yes, I've had the thing catch on my pants when I was experimenting with the right setup for me. :)
True
Yea, I moved my beater FORWARD so it would stop getting stuck in my pants. I guess I need skinny jeans.
I used to wear really baggy pants and it would always caught 🤣🤣🤣
I take drum lessons with 2 teachers, one of them is Rob brown, learning everything with Rob ! thanks a bunch
Good stuff, man 🙂👊🏽
Lowkey true
Rob - thank you sooo much man!
Everything you said about "tight spring" v.s. "loose spring", is 100% on point.
I felt immediately more comfortable and gained so much more control, after releasing the tension of that spring and setting the beater back more.
It makes a world of difference.
I play boom bap/simple light jazz stuff, and I was struggling terribly pulling double-kick beats (when needed), with a single pedal.....and now, it's totally there when I need it.
Thank you again.
Rob:
I love your practical advice. There is so much noise out there when it comes to playing, equipment, and adjustments/configuration. Thank you for cutting through all that.
And I always admire drummers that serve in their church. Blessings to you my brother.
Thanks man 🙏🏽🙂
I’m an over thinker and your style and approach is therapeutic. Thank you!!
Mr Brown is a calming presence👍
Oh man; that’s perfectly put. Love it
I love you man! I picked up a drum set when I was 20 and self-taught, no lessons, just banging around, doing more of an accompaniment style, less of a backbone and more spineless LOL, have gone through a few kits over the years, and then got busy with life and didn't touch them for 7 years. Recently got a new kit and your lessons from tuning to rudiments have me doing things I never thought I'd be able to do. I love your laid back teaching style and focus on the fundamentals without the overcomplexity. Thanks for the effort you put into your channel. Best wishes, Edward
Rob -- you're right on point! Haven't played kit much in 25 years or so. Struggled to get my feet back in the game. Your settings work great! Power and pocket grooves returning quickly. Thanks man and keep up the great work!
I haven't really given my pedal much thought for years. I'm totally going to sort it out. Thanks Rob !
One thing I like about drumming is there is always something new to learn. I've been playing for 25 hrs and still learn something new with Rob Brown. Loved Rob Brown take on tuning, no stress done, bam 🙏👍
Rob, just stumbled upon this killer video. Been playing for about 20 years and adjusted pedal down to looser tension and set the beater back. Immediately loved the feel and control. I’m mostly a groove player and this is exactly what I want. Love your videos and everything you’re doing!
Rob, my man! This helped me out a lot.
I loosened the tension up and reclined the beater back some. It made a world of difference! Thanks for the invaluable suggestion.
I just backed off on the spring tension and for me at least you are spot on. Thanks for continuing to give us great advice. Your tuning videos are classics and my go to method for tuning now.
Fantastic advice as per usual. After 5 years of drumming I'm no longer fighting the pedal! Thanks Rob.
I always come back here for the best, most sensible advice. Thanks man.
Every time I want to know more about something, I come to your channel, and I always leave satisfied. You sir, are a great educator.
Mr. Brown, just wanted to thank you for your tips and advice. Your humility and knowledge speaks volumes. Peace and Blessings!🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Thanks for mentioning the Trick pedal! I've owned mine for 12 years and I love it now more than ever!
Thanks for all your videos. I'm 50 yrs young and just started my journey. You are wise and very informative.
Thanks for all that Rob! I’m 63 years old and have been playing since I was 8. Lately I noticed that my right foot/leg was becoming very weak, so much so that it was giving me stage fright! At a gig recently it was so bad it threw my other limbs totally out of control. Leading up to a fill for the chorus I would become so scared of screwing up I totally messed up! Checking out your video I realised that my spring tension was so tight that it felt like I needed a road hammer to take the beater to the drum head! A little readjustment seems to have made a significant difference. Gonna keep checking it out but maybe, just maybe, it’s not because I’m an old man after all! My good old Iron Cobra May not be destined for the trash just yet. Thanks for your tips!
Hey Rob. Really like your posts. "Find your fulcrum" comment your made somewhere in a clip, just the way you said it...kinda landed on a spiritual level with me and comes around in my consciousness occasionally. Helpful. Thank You!
Bro you solved my problem BIG TIME with my pedal tension and rebound. A looser spring and further back position on the mallet itself made a perfect balance for me as each adjustment complimented the other. Suddenly I’m my old self again. Dang dude. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! 😎💯🤗
Drumming since the late 70's and still learning tricks till this day. This is one of the drummers channel that I always visit to pickup on little secrets and forgotten tricks.
13:05 - Now that's funny, you mentioned Trick Pro1 V as the best and here I am (owner of the short-board and long-board/Bigfoot versions) trying to pick-up more tips on pedal adjustments to try and get that "1st day feel" back into swing. I'm definitely going to try your suggestions and hopefully stumble upon the missing element. Thanks... 8-)
As always, some good thoughts. Thanks, Rob. I'm gonna back down my spring tension and see how it feels.
Hey Rob, working on my bass drum technique and set up. As usual your videos are well thought out, sensible and genuinely useful. Thanks so much for all your good work. So good I've now subscribed twice !
thanks teacher, you always help much! thanks my friend.
Rob. Bro. This video just showed me that I’ve had my pedal set up to work against me for the last 20 years. I tried all kind a of pedals, and heads, and I even started to think maybe I had a bad bass drum or just plain bad feet. I never thought to back the spring almost all the way off and move the beaters way back. I always thought a super tight spring would equate to super fast action, and I never understood why I couldn’t control the beater. It was because I’ve been fighting that spring this whole time! First I backed it off halfway, and a light bulb went off. Then I back it off a little more, and it felt even better. So I backed it almost all the way off and now I can do doubles and paradiddles, and here I always thought my feet just weren’t strong enough for that. I’m playing with so much more dynamic feel now. I can play super fast, soft ghost notes, or I can slam that thing into the head. I can’t believe how much better it feels. Thank you so much for your videos. You’re providing a huge service to drummers everywhere.
You are the best teacher ever man!!!
Just made some adjustments to drop the tension all the down and took out the slack as you mentioned. For my technique, it’s working perfect. Played it for like 3 hrs straight and couldn’t of have more control and consistency. Thank You- Sir! Have Loved Your Channel for quite some some now- Thank you- thank you
Dude. You're an amazing teacher and drums just happen to be the subject. I achieved maximum thumpification today when I tuned my kick drum. Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks Rob for the tips.
After playing for over 55 years, like my stick grip, I'm continually re-investigating my kick pedal adjustments.
"Technique trumps EVERYTHING!" Right on Rob!
I almost quit playing and was gonna break down my kit. Thank you Rob for your inspiration. In just three days of some changes, I am enjoying it once again.
The great Beatdown! You seem to be reading our minds. Always having the right lesson at the right moment.
Aaron Febles Seems that way so far 🙂
You always have the best, most informative videos- your snare drum tuning video helped me A LOT. Thank you for producing awesome content.
Absolutely wonderful advice man!
Thank you Rob,as always. Have a great day!
I am 65 and I totally agree with Scott Tillman , thanks Rob. After living in the states I have worked out that the more you say "man" the better musician you are . Peace.
Great video, I look forward to watching more. Keep up the great work!
You know once you watch a video from this legend you will continue watching and improving thank you for all your help mate
Rob, as always, great video! Been playing for many years and I never fail to learn something from you. b.t.w. That is a sick hoodie!!
Thank you for your videos. You are a great drummer and great teacher!
Yes , this has been on my mind. Seems i have a little trouble. I'm an intermediate drummer so thank you for the beginning of how it should be adjusted. I play with a TAMA Iron Cobra 900 power stroke
Great video man. I play heel up, and I bury the beater, so I agree with the loose spring tension approach. I don't run any counterweights but totally get what you're going for there. Your bass sounds super punchy and that's definitely part of that sound. Again, killer vid man!
Rob - thanks from a long time player looking for some feedback from another point of view. Your tutorial is matter of fact and very straight forward. Very helpful for me this time around!
What I heard someone say on UA-cam is to adjust spring tension just enough to where the foot is not slapping the footboard. It has worked for me and has been my saving grace. It has also helped resolve the beater double bouncing off the head.
Just what I needed to learn about
Hey man, just wanted to say great job! You and John Blackwell are 2 of my many influences. You're one of my favorite teachers 👍
Great vid as always! That hoodie tho!!!!
Thanks so much, Rob, this answered a lot of my questions
I went and grabbed my pedal like you said, and I'm glad it did! This is a killer video. I've been playing for 15 years and you taught me something! Thanks again Rob!
Good stuff, man 🙂👊🏽
Don't feel bad, man. I've played over fifty years and I learn stuff from Rob every time I watch him.
Thanks Rob! Always helpful advice.
Great and honest tips on pedal adjustments.
Professionale!!
Excellent lesson. Thank you. These tips have improved my peddle performance. 👍
Hey man, thanks so much for this vid. You share so much of your knowledge with the world for free and a lot of it has really helped me as I have been learning drums. Keep it up, I love your content man!
Thanks for watchin, man 🙂👊🏽
Of all the pedals ive ever had , the cheaper ones ive always liked the best. The less crap and adjustment features it had the happier i was with it . I have a dw 9000 . Nice pedal but i like my older stipped down and simpler pedals more.thanks for keeping it easy . And thanks for the tuning toms and snare drum video ! Helped immensely!
Great stuff Rob!!!!! Thank you for your knowledge! I retuned all my heads like you said. Super fast, Easy and great sound on heads!!! Don, Saline, MI.
I been waiting for a good kick pedal adjustment video, thanks Rob.
I recently switched my dw 3000 pedal to a slug beater head i got on ebay, it's light and has a lot of slack without having really loosen your floor pedal its dubbed the indy car version of foot pedals lol and it sure is thuddy on the flat side but also can be reversed to a felt side on the backside of the head for a more thumpy punch, and it works on any foot board, so im still using my dw 3000 board for it, which i really like without having to buy a new kick pedal entirely. I got my spring tension loose like yours, i agree its better especially if your beater is light as a feather like the one am currently using
As always, the mastery of a genius! Man, I just can't say enough that you just have the gift to put it the way it works, simple and objective!!! Thanks for your advices!!! (JR-PORTUGAL)
agree with loose tension thing. finally made the adjustment and it makes a big difference. thanks!
Great video Rob, very informative, and immensely helpful thank you! God bless!
thank you for your awesome tips for drums tuning, i love simplicity. may the force be with you man.😎😇
Thanks, Rob!! I ALWAYS learn something valuable from your vids!
Good stuff, man. And you’re welcome 🙂
Dude! Love the Paiste hoodie! I SO want one! Thanks for this video! Awesome as always.
Love your videos Rob! Informative and casual. New subscriber!
Nice. Welcome to the channel, man 🙂👊🏽
Thanks for the video, I readjusted my dw5000 to light and I’m loving it! Does take some getting used to.
I've been wanting to buy the Yamaha double direct pedal, for a while.. you just reinforced my decision! thanks
You are right about the Trick pedal. Amazing feel but still ended up sticking with pearl eliminators out of comfort and familiarity.
Thank you, I'm setting up a Hybrid Kit, Alesis based powered with Superior Drummer and have been fighting a double hit from my kick for months. Will try backing off the tension. I was one who thought a tighter spring made for better singles control. And thank you for the year of the hands.. Yeah man you had my at Copeland Hi-Hat... Joining your group man... You got to keep pumping out tutorials.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I thought I must have had nerve damage in my right leg or something. I just pulled my drum kit out of storage, and sure, I have rust to polish, but seriously, I thought something way worse was wrong. Turns out, this pedal had several factors killing my game. I started with it your way, and tightened it up to my liking. And putting the counter weight up high.. 🙌🤩🥁 forever grateful.
Thank you Rob for your advice! I loosen up spring on my Tama Iron Cobra and moved the beater a little up, too. It changed my playing dramatically! Now I can play fast doubles much more easier. Best regards from Prague
PRAGUE 🇨🇿 in the house. Shout out from Canada, man 🇨🇦 🙂
Thanks for the vid. Beautiful advice💯
Thank you for this bro!
I fixed mine while watching. Thank you!
The cam position of a DD pedal can have a big influence on the way it plays.(at least on the brand I bought) The beater can 'flutter' if not set correctly. This happened to me when I got my first DD. Once set right, it's smooth, fast with great control and power. Love the channel Rob. Regular viewer here.
Very helpful. Thank you for the explanation.
Great info Rob. Thank you.
This was crazy helpful. I had no idea about counterweights; my new pedal has one and I had no idea. Thank you!
i really like the way you explain things, it tickles my brain the right way
Once again beatdown words of wisdom you the man
thanks so much! I am just learning and you are helping ALOT!
I did what you said and put my spring tension as low as possible, and damn does it feel so much better. With a super tight tension one might think that faster rebound=faster singles/doubles, but thats not neccesarrily true. I have more control now and my foot doesnt dance around left and right like it would with the spring cranked up. Thanks Rob!
I love your advice man!
Thanks for the tips!
I wasn't happy with my Roland "noise eater" kick pedal, so I found a deal on the remade Ludwig Speed King. It's completely changed my drumming progress and made it a lot more fun and less frustrating. The pedal is a little noisy, but the double springs and direct drive make it feel super responsive and tight. Your lessons are all way more advanced than my super beginner level, but I love your videos and I use some of your stuff as things to try out and see if I can get anywhere close to executing them.
158.000 + views. Very well deserved. You are the dude, man. So cool. I love to watch your videos. Thank you!!!
Man, great video. Thank you for your time!
Rob!! Thanks so much for these videos. Great stuff.
Great content, as always, Sir....Thanks
I think I've left a comment about pedal setup before, but either way, I'm glad you posted this vid/lesson. I've always struggled a bit with my pedal setup, and I think it's because no one ever taught me the basics. BD pedals were always "set it to whatever feels good" - and I've done that. Yet when it comes to getting a really good low-effort double hit, or playing quickly with sensitivity, "whatever feels good" often works against me (ie. too loose, too much effort needed, not enough rebound, etc).
Anyhoo, if I'm going to be a constructive comment guy, I'd say the counter-weight adjustment is the same as the height of the beater; you can achieve ROUGHLY the same effect by changing either. If you're used to a sloppy feel on a 22" BD, moving to an 18" will probably cause you to change the beater height - but you can dial the same feel back in with weights. I personally don't use any weights, but I'm not advocating this; as you say, Rob, pedal feel is pretty much subjective.
Although I've been watching your vids for a while, I've really been enjoying them especially over the last 6-12 months. Production values are up, but the content has been great and super useful. Keep up the good work...
I’m sooo glad you spoke on that trick pedal! I’ve been hunting my next set to replace my 18 y/o Iron cobra power glide. I might try that drive shaft on the cobra first, other the the slack in the shaft, the pedal is great! Interested in the Yamaha FP9 too
Good advice, I had mine real tight from advice from other you tube drummers, mostly metal double bass drummers with triggers. I played an open mic and the pedal was loose. Wow what a difference! things that I would need two pedals for I could do with one.
Thanks Rob,very helpful speed doubled once I found that happy place!!!
Thank you for another informative video! Gonna play around with my kick pedal now...
When you mention a 'weightier' beater, what you're referring to is the torque that the beater exerts on the drum.
Torque is a force that acts along a circular path. You generally hear about torque when talking about cars, as a car engine produces torque to move the wheels. Torque is affected by the amount of (linear) force, and the distance of that force from the centre point of the circular path.
When you raise your beater shaft, the force of the beater acts at a bigger distance from the centre of its circular movement, so the beater's torque increases.
When you add more mass to the beater, you are increasing the force required to move the beater at the same acceleration as before (as force is mass x acceleration), so the beater's torque increases.
Basically, more beater torque = more force transferred to drum = louder bass drum = quicker summoning of spirit of John Bonham
Very helpful, thanks man!
On spring tension I saw a video once where the guy took the spring off for the exercise on the single strokes. He used it for practicing heel toe as well to learn how to use the natural rebound off the head.
I agree with the comment about the trick pedals. I just a double in February and it's a great pedal!!
Your video really helped me out being brand new to drumming. My pedal was way too tight. Thanks.
Yes! This just helped my double bass practically double temp over night. Had to set at medium loose to get real high speed but this just changed the game! My man!