You're Setting Up Your Cymbals Wrong (Do This Instead)

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  • @CameronFleury
    @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +5

    Do you have any tips for other drummers? Leave them below! Also, if you're looking for the mini course, it's right here ➤➤ Double Bass Drumming Control: Free Mini-Course 🎁
    →academy.cameronfleury.com/double-bass-control-mini-course

    • @scottlogsdon9092
      @scottlogsdon9092 Рік тому +1

      Artists like Travis also have multiple sponsors also and get regular deliveries of cymbals, sticks, and heads so they don't have to worry about the damage. I don't have a full package sponsorship but I do have one for sticks and heads up to a specific amount for each year. Sponsorships are really nice but most people don't get that and I didn't have any for many years. Great Video!!

  • @lwestrich94
    @lwestrich94 3 роки тому +26

    At least for the hi hat spacing, having a second one slightly closed for double bass stuff and one pretty open for foot control works for me

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +6

      Always wanted a remote hi-hat for that!

    • @JewishCircumcision1155
      @JewishCircumcision1155 2 роки тому

      @@CameronFleury one closed, one barely open. I’ve wanted to afford that

    • @NEALBABBITT
      @NEALBABBITT Рік тому

      I've tried an extra hi hat before a couple of times but I can never place it comfortably. My ride, crash or tom are always in the way. 😑

    • @niffingig5143
      @niffingig5143 9 місяців тому

      @JewishCircumcision1155 - I've been using 2 hi-hats for almost 20 years. The hats to my right are on a "closed hat" boom arm attachment. You can open the hats on all of those types of attachment arms, and I have my hi-hat open just enough to sizzle. The one on the left (on a traditional hi-hat stand) is open a little bit more for the standard hi-hat play.
      YES, two hi-hats are expensive, but that's if you're going for the professional lines. If you are using intermediate level lines, it's affordable and will still sound decent. When I first started using two sets of hats, I had Paiste Alphas, and my 2nd hats were a combo of a Sabian B8 bottom with a Zildjian New Beat top. It got the job done for not a lot of $$$.
      I have since upgraded all my cymbals..... Seriously upgraded.

  • @mrantarctica
    @mrantarctica Рік тому +4

    For cymbals that I might choke, I like to place my accent/crash cymbals at an arms length so that it's a comfortable distance to easily choke (not over extending). When the stick is in your hand, it'll be easily reachable still and you can easily play all the articulations (bell, bow, edge) to emphasise the musicality of the cymbal.

  • @ciniclay
    @ciniclay 3 роки тому +7

    may I suggest not having any flat lines when repairing that cymbal? from this angle it kind of looks like you simply had 3 lines.. if there are solid angles, those are potential points where the cracks can expand from, so it would help to round them off ;)

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for the tip! I did not know that either. I'll have to do that. Thank you!

  • @wickedwidget3812
    @wickedwidget3812 2 роки тому +12

    Man as a beginner drummer this really helped me understand the placement especially seeing as how I want to play metal. So this video really helped awesome brother thank you.

  • @Mudge07
    @Mudge07 Рік тому +1

    On ride particularly positioning on a multi-rod extension stand, as it tends to be the lowest or at least level with hi-hats. Don’t place it’s stand too high and try to compensate with the extension rod/ tilter to lower it. What will in fact happen is that you’ll have the free play of the cymbal compromised by the reflex angle of the tilter/rod ad damage it during playing. Avoid it by choosing set the cymbal stand base low and projecting the topmost support-rod and tilter upwards from that level; preferably with more than enough angle to prevent the struck cymbal (on the supported side away from the drummer) bouncing off the support-rod. As shown here, tilt the ride cymbal downwards towards the drummer to expose more of it playable surface. For those using crash ride then a higher position overall will provide less problems as you’ll need to have a better edge-swiping arc introduced as the cymbal elevation increases.

  • @timbit2006
    @timbit2006 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this video. I'm going to show it to my roomate for sure, he's been bashing at my kit and it absolutely kills me to think he's ruining my what is now multiple thousand dollar cymbal investment because he doesn't know how to hit them.

  • @skirwan78
    @skirwan78 3 роки тому +9

    love setup videos , I'd like one on positioning extra items, from cowbells and blocks to where and how to add electronic pads - think Danny Carey's Mandalas. Maybe how to run wires cleanly for mics and edrums?
    As for tips, one of my favorites is taking marker to bottom of sticks and doing designs. X/O/Triangle/Numbers so I can easily identify matched pairs from my stick bag when I grab them.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +2

      Great idea about the cabling! Also, I have used that marking technique before, very useful! Thanks for sharing!

  • @timhourigan6257
    @timhourigan6257 Рік тому +2

    Thanks so much for the double bass control mini-course! You are a gentleman and a scholar! Two BIG thumbs up!

  • @MartinBellamyMBDrums
    @MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 роки тому +3

    Good point about the wing nut on the china. Ive wrecked a few like that LOL. LUCKILY was able to catch the crack early on and cut it out similar to yours. No real sound difference and saves a ton of cash. One thing that I noticed (and it might be the angle of the camera) is to try and file any sharp corners into round edges, then do a light sanding to smooth put the new edge. This should prevent any cracks from starting up again at those points.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +1

      That's what someone else had mentioned too. Definitely going to do that. Thank you!

    • @MartinBellamyMBDrums
      @MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 роки тому

      @@CameronFleury no worries at all man! Love the series. Do you have one on mic placement?

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +1

      @@MartinBellamyMBDrums here this is just what you're looking for: cameronfleury.com/drummers-guide-to-microphone-placement

    • @MartinBellamyMBDrums
      @MartinBellamyMBDrums 3 роки тому

      @@CameronFleury awesome! I'll check it out! :) thank you!

  • @valtyger
    @valtyger 9 місяців тому

    I was looking for the position of bottom HiHat tilting screw (or bolt). Should it always be at opposite side?

  • @NeverSickAtSea
    @NeverSickAtSea Рік тому

    Thank you for the instructional video! You have two crashes, presumably of different sizes. Which do you place on which side (smaller on the left, for example), and why?

  • @jayburd4225
    @jayburd4225 5 місяців тому

    I've literally had an A Custom 16in crash for 20 years hitting it from the side... sure it's warped but still sounds amazing and no cracks....

  • @JayJay-sk3iu
    @JayJay-sk3iu 10 місяців тому

    Great vid and explanations!

  • @taekwanlew
    @taekwanlew Рік тому +1

    Playing since 1978. Never cracked a cymbal and I'm told I'm a heavy hitter. Always played straight, Clem Burke style.

  • @surveillant
    @surveillant 8 місяців тому

    Link to the double bass course not working 😠

  • @lee13whitehead
    @lee13whitehead 3 роки тому +2

    Hellhammer is a perfect example of washing over cymbals, I thought it was odd at first but its great when you get used to it and it helps with timing and flow, nice vid

  • @lobbyrobby
    @lobbyrobby 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for this. I bought my first drum set a couple months ago. I swear everyday I'm moving something like 2 mm's lol. I only have 1 have 16 inch crash on my left side. I'd like to add a 18 inch crash too. Hell, I might just upgrade all my cymbals as my kit came with Meinl hcs cymbals. I know they are a cheap beginner set. Could you point me in the right direction of a stand that could hold my ride and that 18 inch crash or should I just buy another stand?

  • @jcdrums2798
    @jcdrums2798 2 місяці тому

    how much you squeeze your splash please?

  • @HellenAsante-xt9kh
    @HellenAsante-xt9kh Рік тому

    The high hat that I have has rough edges and its unstable too

  • @rlibby404
    @rlibby404 Рік тому

    What pre do u use with the M179s? What polar pattern? I can't seem to use mine on toms without peaking them out. Maybe I'm just hitting too hard idk

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  Рік тому

      Just a focusrite 18i20 with the hype cardioid pattern.

  • @troymartinez3923
    @troymartinez3923 11 місяців тому

    Great video!!!!
    Great money saving advice!!!!!
    I started tilting my cymbals, highlights (I use 2) , Chinas (2 again,) towards me about 5 years ago.
    Also, I only use 1, 19" crash, to my left, and it's my least used, the ones I use most are my middle and right cymbals, but these are both 20" ride cymbals, because I won't break them (🤣)!!!!!!!!

  • @rickyhurkmans678
    @rickyhurkmans678 Рік тому

    What song is playing in the background?

  • @NEALBABBITT
    @NEALBABBITT 2 роки тому +1

    Drawing the sound out, not bashing and beating. Working with it, not against it.

  • @kennethasher7386
    @kennethasher7386 3 роки тому

    Oh and another to remember is make sure your cymbal doesn't run away from you while trying to play! Always make sure there's a mat or something to hold the cymbal stand, this happened to me once while playing live and I had to reach so far out to hit it and if you use a heavy cymbal or ride, you can stick a bit of moongel to it to kinda get an agressive sound.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому

      Yes! We need to be able to play the cymbal, let alone worry about everything else that could happen along the way. Interesting concept about the moongel on the cymbals! Thanks for sharing!

    • @insertmetalusernamehere
      @insertmetalusernamehere 3 роки тому

      @@CameronFleury check out dollar tree window clings. I got a tip from a dude that days they are they exact same stuff just one cost a dollar . I have a lot of them. I'm going to try putting one on a cymbal and see what happens

  • @rocknrolloutlaw6113
    @rocknrolloutlaw6113 2 роки тому +1

    Good tutorial my friend! Very well explained... ❤️ your channel!!!

  • @icenic_wolf
    @icenic_wolf 3 роки тому +1

    A mini-tutorial on "how to set up/place your hi-hats so that you don't hate the recording engineer for putting the snare mic where your hats should go" might be a good short one. Assuming you don't have your own Granelli G5790 mic to get around that. ;-)

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому

      No granelli here! I'll see what I can do! Great suggestion, thank you!

  • @Luemm3l
    @Luemm3l 3 роки тому

    very useful video! I already did some things (i.e. not having tight cymbals via wingnuts, but I hated that anyway, but great to know that also increases longevity), others like striking your cymbals with more surface area is also super helpful because other sound, better ergonomics and less cracks, so your purse is happier are also great additions. bigger issues are usually hi-hat and double pedal setup, because the way I like my hats crashes with the way I like to angle the second bass drum pedal usually... especially with an electronic kit.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому

      Thank you! Pedal positioning can be tricky if your hi-hat stand doesn't swivel. But, it is possible to do. I used sit the hi-hat stand leg apex over top of the slave pedal. If that makes sense?

  • @HellenAsante-xt9kh
    @HellenAsante-xt9kh Рік тому

    I do not have a ride cymbal so I improvise by using my crash cymbal

  • @ezctrlez
    @ezctrlez Рік тому

    Cómo colocar tus símbolos.

  • @evangray155
    @evangray155 3 роки тому

    I just cracked the exact same crash at the beginning of the video after only a year. This is so depressing

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому

      Pretty sure you're covered under a 2 year warranty! Definitely get it replaced!

    • @evangray155
      @evangray155 3 роки тому

      @@CameronFleury I will definitely look into it, I’m not sure why it cracked so fast. I don’t know if I was hitting it to hard or what.

  • @ShadyNeon
    @ShadyNeon 9 місяців тому

    1:16 “Touch wood”💀

  • @HellenAsante-xt9kh
    @HellenAsante-xt9kh Рік тому

    God bless for the video

  • @BlazonStone
    @BlazonStone 2 роки тому +3

    Mike Mangini disagrees with everything in this video

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  2 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/XGLjGRTKQWE/v-deo.html

  • @SpikeMoi
    @SpikeMoi 2 місяці тому

    background music is disturbing. can't focus on what he says.

  • @dxb8086
    @dxb8086 Рік тому +1

    _"You're Setting Up Your Cymbals Wrong"_
    Oh how I love videos where already the title tells me that I am doing something wrong. Well, my cymbals are perfectly fine where they are, thanks.

  • @keithdoeskungfu
    @keithdoeskungfu 8 місяців тому

    Decent lesson , would recommend getting rid of the background music. It's very distracting lol. But otherwise I like the content!

  • @samhilt9115
    @samhilt9115 3 роки тому

    nice cap! and logical explanations as well. :)

  • @bennettknerzer7425
    @bennettknerzer7425 3 роки тому +1

    HEY!!!!!! Can you do a Metallica song as nicko mcbrain?

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  3 роки тому +2

      I might just be up to it! Any song requests?

    • @bennettknerzer7425
      @bennettknerzer7425 3 роки тому +1

      Frayed ends of sanity! It's a good song and I think it would sound good as nicko! I love your drumming to. And speaking of broken cymabals I have 2 zbts that are almost split in half! I'm only 13 so I don't have enough money to by more.😭

  • @NilsLegoWorld
    @NilsLegoWorld 6 місяців тому

    so youre telling me ive meen druming for 7 years and ive always put my cymbals wrong ?

  • @sherronweathers1883
    @sherronweathers1883 3 роки тому

    Nice 👍🏽

  • @MV-ot8kr
    @MV-ot8kr Рік тому

    Orchestrating an orchestra should not be confused with conducting a conductor .

  • @denniswilliams1989
    @denniswilliams1989 Рік тому

    You talked for over 6 minutes without striking a cymbal and then you only hit the hi-hat! My suggestion to you is to talk less, physically demonstrate more. With all due respect, poor instructional/demonstrative video.

  • @dannyheethuis6380
    @dannyheethuis6380 Рік тому

    Goddamn he talks too much......

  • @suqqmadiq2604
    @suqqmadiq2604 Рік тому

    THERES A DAMN MOTH!