Ultimate Guide to Hi-Hat Setup | Season Two, Episode 27

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
  • Hi-hat stands don’t see anywhere near the amount of attention they deserve. From technique to setup to adjustments, the kick pedal gets a lot more focus than the hi-hat stand. This explains why so many drummers are unaware of the issuers with their hi-hat settings or know that something isn’t quite right but are at a loss for how to fix it. In this episode, we cover it all.
    1:42 The Clutch
    3:56 Cymbal Spacing
    5:40 Cymbal Height
    7:07 Spring Tension
    9:11 Bottom Cymbal Angle
    11:27 Leg Setup
    13:02 Additional Adjustments
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 223

  • @SoundsLikeADrum
    @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +27

    What's your hi-hat stand and clutch of choice? Also, if you enjoyed this episode, be sure to check out our episode on dialing in your bass drum pedal: ua-cam.com/video/Mbvs-wXWwRY/v-deo.html

    • @BuddhistDrummer
      @BuddhistDrummer 4 роки тому +3

      I play double pedal a lot, so what’s important to me is having a 3-legged hi hat stand that can swivel, so I have that stability, as well as the option to “hug” the left pedal with one of the legs, which also helps keep that left pedal from slipping. I’m kinda torn on clutches; I used to like drop clutches for some situations, but they don’t really hold down all that tight for a super dry, staccato closed hi hat sound, because it just kinda flops down, instead of being securely closed like it could be with just a regular clutch. I particularly love the clutches that can pinch on / off on the top hat, like the Pearl 150 stand has, for example. Saves a LOT of time for tear-down, and less likelihood of losing small parts

    • @joegoatleydrums
      @joegoatleydrums 4 роки тому +2

      Got the standard stand that came with my Pearl Export till I upgrade but it gets the job done, picked up a Gibraltar quick release clutch though which is so helpful, grips the rod all the way around unlike my standard clutch which had a one point screw grip on it so now my hats don't slip and the magnetic nut on the bottom of the clutch means it doesn't come unscrewed at all while playing, so it was definitely worth it. Great video guys!

    • @Rockin_Ross
      @Rockin_Ross 4 роки тому +1

      DW5k dual leg and the Tama quick release clutch. I use 15 inch hats and this combo seems to work best.

    • @chrisperna9359
      @chrisperna9359 4 роки тому +3

      The Remo clutch you use in the video is MY absolute favorite. Quick set up on and off, and it’s super durable. Have had mine for 10 years.

    • @andyham6094
      @andyham6094 4 роки тому +1

      Tama iron cobra velo glide hi hat stand with the Tama quick lock hi hat clutch that comes with the 900’s. Can’t go wrong with the iron cobra or speed cobra hi hat stands and pedals.

  • @pascalthielen8918
    @pascalthielen8918 4 роки тому +58

    Man, I could set my clock according to your videos!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +18

      If you can't rely on drummers for good time, what CAN you rely on them for? 😉

  • @ayuu.
    @ayuu. 4 роки тому +20

    Just in case someone needs it:
    1) 01:42 The Clutch
    2) 03:56 Cymbal Spacing
    3) 05:40 Cymbal Height
    4) 7:07 Spring Tension
    5) 09:11 Bottom Cymbal Angle
    6) 11:27 Leg Setup
    7) 13:02 Additional Adjustments
    Absolutely looooove this channel to bits! Always liked, favourite, put into my playlist even before the video start! ❤💛💚💙💜

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks! Just a heads up, we’ve been putting the time stamps for videos like this in the description as well. Cheers!

    • @ayuu.
      @ayuu. 4 роки тому

      Sounds Like A Drum Ah yes, I saw! But in all my Android phones, the description time stamps can't be clicked though! But if it's in the comments, we'll be able to click on it and it'll automatically skip to that part of the video! So I find it helpful if it's in the comments, haha

  • @KenIn_NH
    @KenIn_NH 4 роки тому +20

    Don't forget to mention when adjusting the bottom tilt, rotate that whole device toward you so the top slightly overlaps the bottom. it'll save you a lot of stick chew! see video at 0:34 overhead shot.
    Cheers!

  • @Ritenour1986
    @Ritenour1986 4 роки тому +42

    I just started drumming. I needed this upload. Great channel and content too. It's helping a lot.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +3

      Glad to hear it! Welcome to the drumfam. You'll want to check out this video as well for bass drum pedal setup: ua-cam.com/video/Mbvs-wXWwRY/v-deo.html
      Cheers! -Ben

  • @garys9120
    @garys9120 4 місяці тому

    Thank you. I play bass but I own the drum kit. The drummers won't make any changes to my kit even when I ask them to. So I adjust everything. Videos like this help.

  • @oimawesome
    @oimawesome 4 роки тому +1

    I appreciate your subjective approach. Instead of “this is right and this is wrong” you have “this is what you can do and this is what I like, but try it for yourself and see what you like.” Perfect!

  • @janknjazovic
    @janknjazovic 4 роки тому

    Very smart! Totally useful tips!
    Always original and fresh!
    Keep it up!

  • @Hootcifer
    @Hootcifer 4 роки тому +8

    It's the first time I think about using patreon. I think your high quality content is definitiv worth it.

  • @MattGarwood777
    @MattGarwood777 4 роки тому +7

    just a perfect instructional video on an overlooked topic. Gonna revisit my stand today after work :)

  • @TheShaneBot
    @TheShaneBot 3 роки тому

    That was great - and cleared up a number of small questions I've had over the years.
    You explain things well and clearly. Much thanks!

  • @will.lauzon
    @will.lauzon 3 роки тому +1

    Dude is enlightened.

  • @littlephoenix1115
    @littlephoenix1115 4 роки тому +8

    I have an 80s single brace 3-leg Tama Lever glide that came with my kit from the original owner and I feel just a little off using nearly anything else.
    My go-to method for setting hats if I’m on a different kit is the highest I can hit the tip on the bow without raising my shoulder, literally resting 1/8” distance between the shank and the edge, I usually play low volume gigs and need to access a shank on edge accent just from breaking my wrist and not activating my elbow at all.

  • @awfulbasscovers6895
    @awfulbasscovers6895 4 роки тому +8

    Regarding the bottom cymbal angle, I always turn the stand so the highest part of the bottom cymbal is on my side.
    That way, the top cymbal covers the bottom when I hit the open hihat and it saves some sticks life.
    Thanks for your videos, precious content!

    • @awfulbasscovers6895
      @awfulbasscovers6895 4 роки тому +1

      Not sure I made myself clear, sorry I am french.

    • @SideEffectt
      @SideEffectt 4 роки тому

      @@awfulbasscovers6895 So the angles downward away from you? Is that so you don't hit as hard to play an open hi-hat?

    • @awfulbasscovers6895
      @awfulbasscovers6895 4 роки тому +1

      SideEffectt no, the position of the cymbals and the edges will cause less damage on the sticks

  • @emlix1
    @emlix1 4 роки тому +2

    I'd never really thought about the 'air cushion' effect before, but that demonstration you gave was absolutely spot on, thank you!

  • @TomasJ.Brenes-bo4kh
    @TomasJ.Brenes-bo4kh Рік тому +2

    Wow finally thank you
    I sit down on kits
    Make these adjustments
    They get mad . . .
    I say repeat what i did
    Now include it into your style
    Wow it sounds so much better
    IT TAKES YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic 4 роки тому +3

    I remember sending you a comment a few months ago about tuning my five toms to the open strings of a bass guitar, and yet I also remember getting rid of two of those toms, like the next day. A bit more experience and I realized three toms is plenty. Anyway thanks for all the content, you guys. You've helped my progress every step of the way.

  • @GuitarHeroIsShit
    @GuitarHeroIsShit 4 роки тому +2

    Remo quick lock 4 lyf! Never going back to screw clutches, the quick lock is a life saver; I've never had it come undone, it physically can't. Been playing the same Mapex stand for over ten years, still reliable as ever. I like how chunky and sturdy their gear is.

  • @modeavant
    @modeavant 2 роки тому

    Thanks a lot. Really helpful. Like your channel - always more to learn. Appreciate how you clearly explain concepts behind choices.

  • @miltonrazon3974
    @miltonrazon3974 3 роки тому +1

    Very great topic sir. Keep it up, I learn so much

  • @brent3760
    @brent3760 Рік тому

    The great educator strikes again!

  • @DiegoCattaneo
    @DiegoCattaneo 4 роки тому +1

    Your videos really stand out. The video lighting is amazing. And of course plenty of useful information

  • @scottyhughes9179
    @scottyhughes9179 Рік тому

    these are such great videos, thank you guys!

  • @codycreepcore
    @codycreepcore 2 роки тому

    duuuuude so gooood. I wish the drummers I recorded watched this channel.

  • @timstgermain7666
    @timstgermain7666 3 роки тому

    Thanks for another awesome video!

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 4 роки тому +1

    It's nice to see a new hardware video!

  • @buhlir
    @buhlir 2 роки тому

    I watched the bass drum pedal one before this, I have been drumming for like 20 years and did not know a few things about both pedals! blew my mind. thank you!

  • @darklight4815
    @darklight4815 2 роки тому

    As a guitarist that is now starting to take my drum playing more seriously ,I need info like this...it's gold to me...thank you 💪

  • @christianbond1561
    @christianbond1561 Рік тому

    I just got a new to me used kit. It’s been a long time since I owned one- I’ve watched more of your videos than anything- thank you for the excellent content

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 4 роки тому

    Been using the DW 5000 2 leg setup since it came out.These things are bullet proof.Did so many gigs with it and wouldn't trade it for anything although that new mcd that DW came out with is phenomenal. Thanks guys,your helping a lot of players with your great videos.!!!

  • @philnichols7597
    @philnichols7597 3 роки тому

    Thanks man. That was very informative

  • @yelltempus
    @yelltempus 4 роки тому

    Nailed it! Great vid (as usual).

  • @shed185
    @shed185 4 роки тому +3

    Really great video as always! I've also used the bottom cymbal angle adjustment to have the open side of the cymbals away from me, gives me a couple of benefits, means I have a bit more control when playing open hat grooves, also helps keep the cymbals from rocking around whilst playing a bit harder. As always, love the content!

  • @patrickfarley8036
    @patrickfarley8036 4 роки тому +18

    My hat set up is pretty much set to the middle ground of all available settings. One thing that I do with intent regards the tilt adjust. I choose to have that adjustment screw towards me so when m hats are open, I can only see the top plate edge. Basically 180° to your set up. Initially my reason for this was to see if it might reduce the chipping away of my sticks. Having that bottom plate jut out so just seemed like an axe edge. The jury is still out on that but, I did find in tilting away that I had a better overall control of the sounds I needed from my hats. From a little side flick of the stick to disco beats ( or Smoke on the Water 😉) to that jazz swing clutching with thumb and index finger. I haven't found a downside to tilting my plates this way.
    I've used this with wavy edged bottoms which were designed to eliminate the air lock syndrome as well with no discernable ill effects although I suppose I could flatten those out, but I don't just because I'm now used to my set-up.
    What year is that snare? My WFL just celebrated its 62nd birthday on Sept. 26th. Mine is a now very yellowed and eggshelled marine white pearl wrap as well. It's a rescue. Found it on a curb for the trash man painted flat black. Looks like hell but plays like a mutha!!!
    Peace Cody
    Oh, btw, what's your gig schedule like? Im in NYC alot and would love to come check out the band!

    • @RyanTitcomb
      @RyanTitcomb 4 роки тому +1

      I also play with my tilter adjustment like this.....my sticks last much longer this way.

    • @SteveHubbardGuitar
      @SteveHubbardGuitar 3 роки тому

      But... It sounds so good with the bottom sticking out ;[

  • @fh404
    @fh404 4 роки тому +3

    I remember the first gig I was sharing hardware with other drummers. It took like 15 minutes and some pliers to open the clutch and change the top hat because apparently I hadn't been touching that clutch for several years...

  • @warrenk9587
    @warrenk9587 4 роки тому

    Good job on this topic!

  • @grishnank1
    @grishnank1 2 роки тому

    Thank you, great lesson.

  • @Quartiano
    @Quartiano 4 роки тому +1

    Sick video. Was not ever sure what the dial did on that DW hi hat stand. Thanks for the info! Can’t wait for that new MMW movie coming out!

  • @lucysosa6448
    @lucysosa6448 2 роки тому

    Excellent explanation thanks

  • @prongATO
    @prongATO Рік тому

    It’s amazing how cool you can fill in a patterns sound by sizzling or splashing the hats with your foot while playing the pattern. The longer I play and older I get, the closer I pay attention to little things like this video. I’ve gone from clear heads all around to preferring coated heads on everything but the bass drum batter and reso heads on toms and snare.

  • @homonym7638
    @homonym7638 2 роки тому +1

    7:38 Maaaan. Been playing the drums since I was 7 years old (now 32) and literally never even knew that spring tension screw existed. Think someone must've tightened mine up in my studio years ago, as it's been playing awfully and stiff for a long while. I was about to replace it, but now I've set the spring tension to a human level it's moving up and down like butter again! You saved me a sickening amount of money, thanks brother!

  • @jackdrummer6666
    @jackdrummer6666 4 роки тому

    Great video really helpful

  • @flddoc2
    @flddoc2 4 роки тому

    Love the information you but out. I’ve been playing 35 years and I still discover things that work better for me. “I don’t know what to think about that” is perfect. I think as I get older adjusting things according to muscle redistribution, stiffness (getting old is yukky) and being plagued with wounds and injuries is a natural and necessary progression. Great job!

  • @doknox
    @doknox Рік тому

    I just set my hats like yours and man....sounds and feels great!

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 4 роки тому +2

    I use an old DW 5500 stand from about 25 years ago, 2-legged with the Delta I hinge (same as my double pedal and remote hi-hat stand). It's on the heavy side, but not as heavy as a modern 5500. I keep the spring tension about a loose as it will go; it doesn't quite do the floaty thing that modern DW stands do, especially not with my ~860g Agop, but it's close. I tried the 1st generation DW drop-lock clutch, but I hated the gap between the two pieces, so I just use a regular DW clutch. I keep the top cymbal as loose in the clutch as I can without getting that clicky feel when I play it with my foot, and the cymbals are fairly far apart, but not quite as much as most jazz players might have them - my hi-hat stand doesn't feel like a bass drum pedal.
    I also tried the DW clutch for x-hats, the one with the sideways lever to adjust the cymbal spacing, but the lever is too tight and unscrews the pull rod when I try to adjust it.
    My ideal hi-hat would be something without pillars on either side, such as Sonor or Trick. The Trick has ugly legs though (yeah, I'm shallow like that). I wish Sonor would put into production the custom hi-hat stand they did for Jojo Mayer, where they replaced the chain with a strap (or I wish I were handy enough to do it myself). I imagine Trick is too in love with metal to do anything with straps. I don't like the feel of direct drive (at least on bass drum pedals), and chains require oil and are a little messy.

  • @putuhstsuj
    @putuhstsuj 4 роки тому +1

    I love the idea of gauging the height adjusting by pressing the bass drum!

  • @morrinsville23
    @morrinsville23 Місяць тому

    Very helpful!! Really great info thanks!

  • @luvmedrums4057
    @luvmedrums4057 4 роки тому

    I gotta be honest,when I first start watching your videos I didn't care for them,but man I love them now they're very informative and you're doing a great job thanks bro

  • @jangobango2847
    @jangobango2847 4 роки тому +10

    Yikes crazy some drummers dont know how to adjust their pedals glad you are helping them, kinda like a guitarist who doesnt know how to adjust his action or eq on his amp head

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +8

      If no one teaches it then people are less likely to learn.

    • @jangobango2847
      @jangobango2847 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum so true! Your channel would have been a godsend when i first started, but i still have learned a ton!

  • @TwoCablesOCN
    @TwoCablesOCN 4 роки тому +1

    Re: 11:26
    Another reason to keep this part on the floor is, if you have the spurs on this part, you can benefit from them. The spurs will help keep the stand from sliding away from you, especially if the feet on your stand don't have spurs that you can use.
    I have the Yamaha HS-850. I bought it recently to replace a Pearl H-1000 that had problems I was tired of dealing with. The Pearl H-1000 has spurs on each of the 3 legs that can be used in addition to the spurs on the center part. I loved those spurs on the feet because it meant my stand would never, ever, ever, ever budge. Ever.
    When I went shopping for a new stand, the HS-850 was the only one that I wanted even though it doesn't have spurs on the feet. Get this: even though it has no spurs on the feet, the 2 spurs on the center part are all that's needed. I can stomp on my HS-850 all day and it never slides away from me. It simply digs into my carpeted drum mat and stays put. I remember testing the H-1000's ability to stay put without the feet spurs extended (or the center spurs), and it took just a couple of hi-hat foot splashes and chicks to make it start sliding away from me. So before getting the HS-850, I worried about this but it's been great because I make sure the center section is in contact with the floor but I also test for wobble before I finish setting up because I want that thing to be *stable* when I play.
    Regarding memory locks: I'm pretty sure the only purpose of memory locks is to make set-up faster.

  • @rickingraham4451
    @rickingraham4451 Рік тому

    Awesome info👍

  • @jeremydrummer3017
    @jeremydrummer3017 4 роки тому

    Great video! I think you about covered it all.

  • @garberwarren
    @garberwarren 4 роки тому +1

    I am the same as you. Two hi hats that I have had forever. I can not even remember exactly when I bought them. I like your tool comment. That is what it is a tool. Same as my circular saw. It works so I use it no mater how old it is but you know what it is going to do. Thanks for another great video.

  • @H8TECREWINC
    @H8TECREWINC 3 роки тому

    Thanks great tips didn't now your channel but really great

  • @marty9464
    @marty9464 4 роки тому +4

    Another spot on video... great job. My all time favorite HH stand is still my 1972 Rogers. It's got all the adjustments, is light weight , which is good for hauling, but also allows me to feel the weight of the cymbals more. As a jazz player, I use the hi hats a lot... stick work, splashes etc. and find a good quality stand that is well adjusted invaluable to the color I'm able to add as opposed to the simple 2 & 4 chick that too many drummers limit themselves to. I also play a fair number of jam sessions, where I'm sitting at someone else kit and frequently run into the situation where they don't have the spurs adjusted to dig into the rug and thus leave you chasing the stand as the song unfolds. After I get the basics adjusted, it's the next thing I check.... ensuring that I can play the HH's to their full potential. Keep up the good work..........

    • @congamonty
      @congamonty 4 роки тому

      I have the new Rogers hihat stand, and the footbed angle is really low. So, I need to adjust the leg spread to raise the footbed. I don't raise it much, but enough so the angle feels more comfortable.

  • @chrismosquad1056
    @chrismosquad1056 2 роки тому

    Great video! I’m still learning, but I can tell you balance between the bass pedal and hi-hat pedal is important. I appreciate that you mentioned it. 👍🏻

  • @danzitoli2796
    @danzitoli2796 4 роки тому +1

    Yeah I had no idea about the bottom cymbal angle bolt?? Thank you!

  • @gabrieldorrego3020
    @gabrieldorrego3020 3 місяці тому

    Great vid!

  • @ricosalomar
    @ricosalomar 4 роки тому +2

    I play back beats with my left foot most of the time. In quiet situations, I set them closer together.
    Also, the rod comes extra long from the factory. But you can cut it off wherever you want. I see drummers with 18" of empty rod sticking up sometimes! Hi hat pedals should be sold with a hacksaw blade :)

  • @rhythmcaster2018
    @rhythmcaster2018 4 роки тому +2

    Yes! It's cymbal time. Thank you.

  • @jemnicholls8452
    @jemnicholls8452 12 днів тому

    Brady Snare in the background?
    And thank you for reminding me of things I've forgotten, and taken for granted.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  11 днів тому

      That's a Fijian Mahogany stave snare made by Red Rock Drums Australia. Cheers!

    • @jemnicholls8452
      @jemnicholls8452 10 днів тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum thought so. Looks like Twin Cannon lug casings and throw-off, too. Nice one!

  • @johnrobinson8323
    @johnrobinson8323 4 роки тому +1

    Nice Video! I use a 1990s Premier Hi Hat stand with a Gibraltar clutch. Seems to work for me. Bought the stand brand new and replaced the clutch a couple of years ago.

  • @secondsbeforelanding
    @secondsbeforelanding 4 роки тому

    Another excellent and well presented video. I wanted to mention, that for those who play double bass drums, there is a clutch that you can simply strike with your stick, that allows your top hi hat to drop onto the bottom, when u want to use both feet on the bass pedals.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Thanks! As far as the drop clutch goes, here's an example: www.dwdrums.com/factoryaccessories/fa.asp?sKITNAME=dwsm505

  • @jcdrums2798
    @jcdrums2798 2 роки тому

    very good advices.

  • @billyellis1597
    @billyellis1597 4 роки тому

    I learn alot from these videos..I now know a better way to set my hi hats..thanks for the info..

  • @rdojeda5930
    @rdojeda5930 4 роки тому

    Thanks so much you're great!!

  • @mladjamladja2806
    @mladjamladja2806 4 роки тому +1

    Useful
    Very useful
    Funny
    Originally
    The
    Best!
    Always
    Tnx Cody!

  • @dustbunnys
    @dustbunnys 4 роки тому +1

    Wow the tip about diverting the air with the angle adjusted bottom hat could be useful for close micd recording scenarios!

  • @artcorvolet
    @artcorvolet 4 роки тому +1

    Best sounding snare yet!!!!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      Gotta love a classic 6-lug! This Ludwig Pioneer has a lot of character. -Ben

    • @artcorvolet
      @artcorvolet 4 роки тому

      Sounds Like A Drum yeah they do. However, I’m waiting on the arrival of perhaps the most versatile snare ever. 6.5x14 Gretsch USA Solid aluminum. A touring drummer friend of mine says it’s his go to in so many situations...super versatile!

    • @bonzomio
      @bonzomio 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Hi Cody...FYI probably a typo, but it mentions in the signal chain that the drums are Pearl Masters Custom Extra Maple...I figured I would catch up with a comment in this thread about this the snare (being a Ludwig). Beautiful snare! Informative lesson! I use DW 6000 Series Ultralight for all my stands including HH. I sort of miss having a quick release clutch (might have to get one), but this clutch is fine. I really love the UL stands... so lightweight yet sturdy enough for all my cymbal needs. Plus you can get a really cool carrying bag for all the hardware if you buy a package set. Thanks for your videos!

  • @Mike-oz5pp
    @Mike-oz5pp 2 роки тому

    Oh I've seen that where the base plate is way up in the air, very bad for the hihat stand period! Like u said, that thing is "supposed" to be on the floor. I adjusted a guys when I was playin his kit & he got major upset wit me 😆. I tried to explain but he insisted " Aww That's Why It's Got 3 Legs Instead of 2". I put it back the way he had it & went about my way. Bout a week later he had to get a new one cause it started rocking so bad he couldn't take it nomore, thanks Cody & Cadence productions

  • @nixxistix
    @nixxistix 4 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a "To Vent or Not to Vent" video on drums, especially snare drums.
    Keep up the GREAT work!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Venting with regards to a hole in the shell?

  • @NoslenLRac
    @NoslenLRac 4 роки тому

    I’ve run into cases where the stage or floor is not even, so I’ll use the bottom angle adjust in connection with rotating the top post of the stand. It helps me maintain a consistent angle I enjoy (almost flat, as I use Zildjian Mastersound bottom).

  • @Mrmarkgriffin
    @Mrmarkgriffin 4 роки тому

    Loving the videos so far, any chance of some stuff on stick choice?

  • @betulaobscura
    @betulaobscura 4 роки тому +1

    I use Sonor 600 series hardware since 2012. Really enjoy it!
    I set my hi-hat height on the lowest level possible because:
    1) I play my left hand on the hi-hat & cymbals;
    2) I have my hi-hat & cymbals on the left;
    3) I play open handed technique;
    4) I prefer to play hi-hat from above because I prefer sound made by tip of the stick.

  • @JPM-yp1wk
    @JPM-yp1wk 4 роки тому

    Great channel, brother! I saw you in a Rebecca Pigeon video the other day, which was a pretty cool surprise. That must have been a cool session, she's amazing.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Yeah she’s amazing, hope to see her again soon! Thanks for watching :) -Cody

  • @sega.milkis
    @sega.milkis 4 роки тому

    I use the bottom angle screw for making the cymbals to sizzle more, to increase wash because I mostly play double pedal without engaging my hi-hat foot. Thus the cymbals are in an optimal default position for extreme wash)

  • @RorRiiZzLE
    @RorRiiZzLE 4 роки тому

    Great video. I wish it was here like a year and a half ago lol.
    I really wish my stand had that internal spring function adjustable.
    I too have also seen people lift up the center of the base, so that only the outside legs are touching the ground. I hate that. First of all, I like my stuff to stay as still as possible and acoustic kits already move a bit, so last thing I want is my hats moving from leg to leg with each step of the pedal. Also, I went to 3 years of drafting and design and then was on my way in college to becoming an architect until I changed majors, so when I see people changing the base of the hi hat stand in this manner, I just wanna jump in the video and align the feet or something because that foundation is made to be there and touch the ground not be lifted by the other legs and bouncing all over sorta because a person that didn’t design it and doesn’t have a history in structural engineering or anything similar thinks the stand just works better like that. Well like you said, that’ll definitely take life out of your stand rather than put life in.
    And don’t feel bad if you gotta tighten your kick up for more speed or play closed hats at times if you’re playing a double bass or so much more.
    I feel like there could be a whole lesson book or video just on the few adjustments that can be made to stands, pedals, and the drums and other accessories that change the sound besides getting different cymbals, different drums, new heads, etc.

  • @jamesconnors5653
    @jamesconnors5653 4 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @simon9600
    @simon9600 4 роки тому +1

    One of the most important parts of the kit I think the hi hat. Thanks heaps now I know why my chick sound has been disappointing. Changing that angle right now!

    • @simon9600
      @simon9600 4 роки тому +1

      And that snare! would almost sell my soul for that sound.

  • @1111Paiste
    @1111Paiste 4 роки тому +9

    Great reminder! Question: Have you done a video on the drumsticks you use. I'm interested in trying some Promark sticks.
    Thanks for your response and thanks for what you guys are doing here. I seriously value your content.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks! We really enjoy a variety of options within the Select Balance series and made a video about the series here: ua-cam.com/video/GChqAAlLJWQ/v-deo.html
      In addition, the 718 Acid Jazz and 733 Michael Carvin models are definitely favorites of ours. -Ben

    • @1111Paiste
      @1111Paiste 4 роки тому +1

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Allright. Thank you!

    • @Solnoric
      @Solnoric 4 роки тому

      A video on sticks period could be neat - cover all your options for hitting your drums.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      @@Solnoric We're going to be doing some videos in the near future on sticks (anatomy, stick choice, etc.) on our Patreon.

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 4 роки тому +1

    Wish l had those vid back then 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @PabloJ1968
    @PabloJ1968 3 роки тому

    As always, I enjoyed it until the end.

  • @DrummingMan1
    @DrummingMan1 4 роки тому

    Traditional grip? Color me jelli! Your videos always get me excited so now I’m gonna go out and tweak my hihat standn! Can you say drop clutch? Love to see a video regarding some of the exotic clamping options out there! Cheers… Keith

  • @MatthewParsonsDrumsAndAudio
    @MatthewParsonsDrumsAndAudio 4 роки тому +2

    A piece of advice I got a long time ago is to always experiment with your set-up until you find a set-up that you love. Even if it's unconventional, make sure it works for you.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      Love it! We’ll amend that to “and even once you’ve found it, keep experimenting because you never know what you might discover...” 👊🏻🥁❤️

  • @wddrumming452
    @wddrumming452 4 роки тому

    Just a note on the tilt adjustment. I noticed you have the tilt adjuster away from you, I found by putting the tilt adjuster closer to me the bottom cymbal will stay tucked under the top cymbal which allows me to strike the side without too much damage to my sticks. Be it a stick saver of sorts. It doesn't effect the sound or play that I can tell but my sticks last a lot longer!

  • @mediaguy50
    @mediaguy50 4 роки тому +1

    Love the channel, only recently found it, and have been binging on Sounds like a Drum - I learned a lot here - thanks. I have been thinking about re-cutting the bearing edge on my drums (due to damage), and have looked at what other compnays are offering on their drums. Pearl is offering Outer 45 and 60 degree edges, Inner 45, Rounder 45, and Fully Rounded B.E.
    A Custom drum company I really respect (TRS Drums - made drums for Charlie Watts) is using as their standard a 33 degree bearing edge. The question is, how do these different edges affect the sound of the drum and its tunability. I am very interested to hear what you would have to say about this. Best Regards. Paul

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Paul! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying the channel. We’ll be covering bearing edges in several videos in the future. It’s both a seemingly simple yet complex topic to cover. Cheers! -Ben

  • @footnotedrummer
    @footnotedrummer 2 роки тому

    As far as bottom cymbal angle goes... depending on how high you play your hats relative to the snare height... tilting the bottom cymbal toward you can be very helpful in creating a more comfortable approach angle for the stick. If you're playing hard rock, and your hats are relatively high with no angle... your sticks will start looking like a beaver had at them. It's also not good for the cymbals to rock out on the sharp edge all of the time.

  • @roberthiggins6745
    @roberthiggins6745 2 роки тому

    i just got iron cobra 200 the bomb i love it

  • @GuitarHeroIsShit
    @GuitarHeroIsShit 4 роки тому

    Something Stephen Taylor addressed not long ago was improving the lifespan of your sticks with how your hats are positioned. I've made a habit of this now: if the side that the bottom hat is protruding from is where you're striking the stick, the point of contact (I guess mainly if you're playing mostly stick shoulder like me) is directly on the rim of the bottom hat. Cuts right into the stick, and puts the bottom at greater risk of cracking too. Just keeping an eye out and swivelling the hats round so you're striking the top first is a help.
    More recently I'm raising my hats pretty high so I've more space to whack the snare, so doing this is imperative imo

    • @gohopdrummer
      @gohopdrummer 4 роки тому +1

      Dominic Smith You can also rotate the top hi hat tube 180° so that the tilt screw is on the same side of the hi hat stand as you. Then the edge of the bottom cymbal that was chewing up your sticks is now overlapped a bit by the top cymbal..

  • @simonvasey8546
    @simonvasey8546 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Notification Bell! LOL.

  • @geraldmurillo5022
    @geraldmurillo5022 4 роки тому +5

    The groove he was playing at 5:43 sounds like chameleon by herbie hancock

  • @shalaq
    @shalaq 4 роки тому +2

    for ride cymbals I feel like a much overlooked technique is the click grip. Basically you hold the stick like a woodblock and it creates a very different response in the attack of the cymbal. It really makes the washy cymbals sing with woody attack, making them more versatile.

  • @vb6427
    @vb6427 4 роки тому

    Nice episode like always. Did you plan to make a comparaison video including ebony drumheads? Could be nice to see that also. (Just giving idea) :)

  • @stephenrosenthal5337
    @stephenrosenthal5337 4 роки тому

    Swapped out the felts on my clutch with urethane skateboard truck bushings 30 years ago. Virtually indestructible and none of the mushiness.

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 4 роки тому +1

    +soundslikeadrum *The Drum Workshop® hi-hat stand with the YAMAHA® RY2T4 at OMS Japanese Christian Church is a typical example of all points shown.* I'm currently considering a TAMA®/Hoshino® clutch with hemispheric rubbers rather than flat felts for the top cymbal to allow for appropriate reaction for Classical-derived pieces such as 19th-Century and earlier hymns, where I need to use the pedal to emulate techniques for hand-cymbal pairs.

  • @mikosoft
    @mikosoft 4 роки тому

    I never knew the screw on the bottom hihat holder is to actually angle it. I thought it's more like to straighten it if it's angling by itself. I have hihats with wavy edge though so there is no issue with trapped air.

  • @jcbk9iq
    @jcbk9iq 4 роки тому

    Thanks for that. You may want to address how all this is impacted playing open handed.

  • @Ron0963
    @Ron0963 4 роки тому

    Well Put together ^5
    Playing High hats are/were hard to get the Gist of, (many drummers say/think the same) ..No?
    :::suggestion, show flash vids/photos of all adjustments to what you're explaining.
    (for reference to others)

  • @tophergonzales6778
    @tophergonzales6778 Рік тому

    I play left hand lead on a standard right hand setup. so I set my hihat nearly parallel with the snare. but once I started gigging, I found it difficult to adjust to other peep's kits their hihats way up in the air, so now I try to practice sometimes with it up and sometimes down just so i can be comfortable with any setup.

  • @jedfriesen
    @jedfriesen 4 роки тому

    Thx again for giving us the goods:)
    I have an late 80s era Yamaha hi end hi hat stand and the spring tension has gone kaput. Tried taking it all apart and just can’t figure it out or see anything wrong. Since it’s a great stand can you recommend a place I could send it to? Thank you. In California but I don’t mind sending it to a place back East if you know they can fix.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      You’re quite welcome! If you can get to L.A. then I’d recommend bringing it to Pro Drum Shop.