I can only endorse everything you say about the modern Maserati. I bought a 4 year old 2007 Quadroporte with 40000 miles on the clock for £28k. Ferrari 4.2 litre Ferrari petrol engine and all the extras. It’s now got 111000 on the clock and it’s never let me down. People mutter about electrical problems - mines been left out on the street in all weathers including Scottish winters and never failed. A couple of new batteries required and new front discs/pads but that’s it. Find a good independent mechanic to service once a year and it’ll be completely reliable. And that engine …. 😘
In my youth, I would have given my eye teeth for a Maserati!! Now I’m 67 years old and have wanted a campervan for years, I’m more excited by looking at campervans so that I have a choice!!
Really interesting to hear your comment about Pirelli Tyres. I owned an Audi R8 for 12 years and always put Pirelli P Zero tyres on it. When manoeuvring in and out of parking spaces it did that crabbing action with a horrible graunching noise and jumped about. The first time it happened I thought I was driving over a load of rubble.
The crabbing action is called the Ackerman effect and is a consequence of the suspension geometry. Cold tyres exacerbate, and there might be something about the Pirelli compound that makes it more noticeable, but it’s normal and nothing to worry about
Learn something everyday! 20 odd years ago I bought a 2 litre Alfa Gtv coupe and it did exactly that. It was on pretty tired Pirelli P Zero. I preferred Goodyear at the time, new tyres and it was fine. I had assumed it was simply the Pirelli being heavily worn.
Like others have suggested it’s Ackerman angle . It’s actually Anti-Ackerman that causes this effect. This is how formula 1 cars are set up and you can see it on TV where the outside wheel on a corner turns in more than the inside wheel. This is the opposite of what a normal road car is set up. To give a sporty turn in , manufacturers have set up their road cars with Anti-Ackerman . The trade of is at slow tight turns the outside wheel will now drag causing it to skip. This becomes more pronounced as tyre tread wears down and then closer it becomes to being a slick tyre. People end up putting new tyres on which solves the effect for a short while but it’s not for the reasons they think
Thank you for showing us around your Ghibli. I would much prefer this over any BMW M-Sport. It's much more interesting, the engine sounds better, and the bodywork looks MILES better. Most importantly, it would be a lot easier to find a well-maintained and responsibly-owned Ghibli, too.
Had my Ghibli diesel (2018) for just over a year now and I absolutely love it. 2nd best car I've ever owned. Changed the tyres to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and it's a totally different animal. Never thought just changing the tyres would make such a difference. If in doubt, test drive it, but know if you do test drive it, you will buy it!
@@andymoore9977 Best handling car I've had is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce Ti. Unfortunately had to sell as getting too tight for the growing kids in the back. Driving the Giulia around winding country lanes at speed, immense handling, such a joy. Some day will go for the QV once the kids get their own cars. Plus in 3yrs of ownership, zero issues.
I bought a 2 year old XK8 Convertible 24 years ago, apart from a manufacturer timing chain tensioner fault it was completely trouble free. It took me 10 years to part with it as I loved driving it from day one. I replaced it with a Hilux to transport my dogs about, it was horrid in comparison albeit also uber reliable.
Nice Motor Lee and as it's been looked after it shouldn't be any further problems ( DPF's? ) . I've been scarred as my neighbour had a 4200 cambricorsa (08 reg) which despite being well maintained threw up a different issue every month . He finally sold it to WBAC and cut his losses.
Hello Lee Would you make a video about : reliable automatic cars you could buy ( 10k pound and under ) and talk about both gasoline and diesel options ?
how times have changed. back in the early 80s I used to service an original Ghibli (AM115) at our garage when I was a teenager. few cars were as exotic or unreliable. it used to come in coughing and farting and leave sounding like a symphony roughly every 2 weeks.
I'm gettin you fella, all the stupid/sarcastic comments about buying this. Makes it easier for the sensible an passionate to buy cars. Nice work fella ;-)
Thanks david, I can be critical of vehicles but I only do that with knowledge / experience of working on them or driving them. Lots of misconceptions about a lot of cars today
We had a 2016 Ghibli S and ran it from 39k miles to 80k. Never a problem. Decent economy and superbly comfortable. Ours had the top spec leather which is important. Easy to live with and really reliable. The infotainment isn't the best but the soundtrack is......
60 or so years ago, as a kid in junior school, I had a Maserati Dinky toy, the best playground racer I ever had - I've loved the name and the marque ever since. Lovely car sir, wish I had the readies!
Hi Lee great video as usual, I’m not being big headed but I’ve always had nice cars ie Mercedes, BMWs and Alfas…but the Maserati is absolutely beautiful and it is a lifetime achievement for me to actually own one.
Thanks for watching nervo, I like a Merc to be fair. Ran a CLS320 for a couple of years and then sold it to my dad who ran it for few more years. Great car
Enjoyed watching this, thanks for sharing! Makes a change from watching a channel like Hoovies that keeps buying knackered editions (the v6 petrol) and complain about it, although the Levante he got ended up going well. Also totally hear you on the buying something different, I ended up with an Infiniti Q30 because its that bit rarer and different compared to the Merc GLA its based on. Reactions are always fun, those that know, know, lol and those that dont, their confusion is amusing to see. But again thanks for sharing this, always been Ghibi curious!
I do like the Maseratis and that is a beaut. Interesting to hear just how well you got on with yours, most reviews I've seen are of the oldest, highest mileage examples that have been abused.
Nice car, never been in one personally, but it looks great in the blue too! I’ve owned lots of cars throughout y driving life and never really had issues with any of them (mechanical wise). But then I was obsessed (still am) about getting my car serviced regularly and just looking after the car. Some people treat their car as a tip and run them for years, it breaks down then they slag the car off! 😂
Wow,had no idea that was diesel Lee,I remember you turning up one Saturday morning at your previous business and thought it sounded really nice,also completely agree with the uniroyal tyres,I've been running them for years on my cars started with rainsport 3,obviously have the rainsport 5 now fantastic tyres done nearly 20k on the set on my old car,track use included and still have around 4mm of tread,very underated tyre in my opinion!good luck with sale and the pitch👍👍👌👌
Great review Lee. Always had Italian cars and had few issues. Get a good one, do your research, search out the generic parts and they are fantastic value and great fun to drive. I really enjoy your pods.
Thanks for your prompt reply, I recently had my 2014 Peugeot 508 2ltr tdi in for attention and was given a list of findings after diagnostics. The garage said I should take the car to an authorised Peugeot dealer to fully understand and attend to the findings as they didn't have full access. The garage is part of a large franchise and well equipped but not enough apparently which is disappointing, such is life.
Brilliant video Lee, and I'm now sold on the car. Been looking at both the Ghibli and the Quattroporte for ages. The usual worries were forefront after some of the UA-cam videos out there (have you seen the Doug Demuro review???). Thanks for putting my mind at rest.
I have a 64 plate DV6 and park it outside my 'terraced house' - in Liverpool! Still there as no one truly understands what it is 😂 - just go for it, you'll be surprised.
Beautiful car... if I was in the position to buy another car and was looking at that price range then I would have yours because your honest and present it well and know your stuff.... hope someone snaps it up quick...its a great car
Lee I get the same with alfa romeo I've had alot of cars in my time .but I've always had a big love of Italian cars mainly alfa .my giulia quadrifoglio is a dream to own and drive.but as I say people the 1st thing I get is reliability . Most of these people have never been near these cars Italian cars are amazing.
Very interesting take on the Maserati, which as you say have a very bad, perhaps undeservedly, reputation for reliability. It will be interesting to see if your new Maser will turn out to be as reliable as this Ghibli.
The levante is a totally different vehicle and rock solid. A better used vehicle value..as a mechanic and engine builder for 45 years I can't find fault in mine
I bought a brand new Mito and within days it developed gearbox oil leaks and recurring electrical faults ! Long story short, got shut and bought a Mercedes which has never gone wrong in 8 years of ownership, in fact best car I've ever owned !! ( Former motor mechanic for 45 years )
Never knew Maserati did a diesel & i've been in the motor trade for years....but we never did high end car in that area. Another thing never knew Brabus was diesel till a mate picked me up in one when i was in Ibiza back in 2017. 😮Only one in ibiza at the time.
Thank you Lee. I asked for this a long time ago and am glad you did the video for us. As you said if you service and maintain it it will run. I was just concerned about it being a diesel and issues with DPF's and things like that. It looks such a nice car and very comfortable. Is it expensive to Insure?
If you are into Italian cars (hint i am) there's nothing quite like them. They make you pull your hair out, but you're smiling whilst you do it. I've owned an Alfa (Giulia) and a Maserati (4200) and they're just special cars. Maseratis represent incredible value right now and are reliable if looked after.
Fantastic video, I’ve been waiting for a while for you to talk about your Maserati’s. I’ve had a trouble free Granturismo for the last four years. Every drive is sensational, never had any issues. It’s an exclusive club I’m happy to be part of.
Im thinking, Ive got £4k I won at poker, I could pull 10K out of my pension fund in 2weeks, ....but Ive not got room for another car, and Im miles away at Cambridge! How can you torment me like this. Its a beauty, I was looking at Quattroporte's a while back cos of the design, they do look good. Had a Stag for a few years in the 90's but it was the preverbial money pit...not the engine-the gearbox, diff, hood, shocks and bushes. I gave up when the sills started rusting. Mmmm park the Rav on the grass? Any idea on how much-ish the insurance is for a no points 66yr old '?
Bearing in mind the fact that you have owned and driven the car for so long, as someone who is in the trade, is a testament to the vehicle.
I can only endorse everything you say about the modern Maserati. I bought a 4 year old 2007 Quadroporte with 40000 miles on the clock for £28k. Ferrari 4.2 litre Ferrari petrol engine and all the extras. It’s now got 111000 on the clock and it’s never let me down. People mutter about electrical problems - mines been left out on the street in all weathers including Scottish winters and never failed. A couple of new batteries required and new front discs/pads but that’s it. Find a good independent mechanic to service once a year and it’ll be completely reliable. And that engine …. 😘
Thanks for making this honest review of this beautiful Maserati 🇮🇹👌🏻
I assumed maintenance would break the bank Lee. It just shows how the main dealers treat loyal punters! 😜
They are by far the biggest rip of main agent going.
In my youth, I would have given my eye teeth for a Maserati!! Now I’m 67 years old and have wanted a campervan for years, I’m more excited by looking at campervans so that I have a choice!!
Really interesting to hear your comment about Pirelli Tyres. I owned an Audi R8 for 12 years and always put Pirelli P Zero tyres on it. When manoeuvring in and out of parking spaces it did that crabbing action with a horrible graunching noise and jumped about. The first time it happened I thought I was driving over a load of rubble.
Exactly the same issue 👍
The crabbing action is called the Ackerman effect and is a consequence of the suspension geometry. Cold tyres exacerbate, and there might be something about the Pirelli compound that makes it more noticeable, but it’s normal and nothing to worry about
Learn something everyday! 20 odd years ago I bought a 2 litre Alfa Gtv coupe and it did exactly that. It was on pretty tired Pirelli P Zero. I preferred Goodyear at the time, new tyres and it was fine. I had assumed it was simply the Pirelli being heavily worn.
@ you can definitely feel it more when the front tyres are old.
Like others have suggested it’s Ackerman angle . It’s actually Anti-Ackerman that causes this effect. This is how formula 1 cars are set up and you can see it on TV where the outside wheel on a corner turns in more than the inside wheel. This is the opposite of what a normal road car is set up. To give a sporty turn in , manufacturers have set up their road cars with Anti-Ackerman . The trade of is at slow tight turns the outside wheel will now drag causing it to skip. This becomes more pronounced as tyre tread wears down and then closer it becomes to being a slick tyre. People end up putting new tyres on which solves the effect for a short while but it’s not for the reasons they think
Thank you for showing us around your Ghibli. I would much prefer this over any BMW M-Sport. It's much more interesting, the engine sounds better, and the bodywork looks MILES better. Most importantly, it would be a lot easier to find a well-maintained and responsibly-owned Ghibli, too.
thanks owen, yes would agree with that. To many bmw's that have been thrashed about with big miles on
Had my Ghibli diesel (2018) for just over a year now and I absolutely love it. 2nd best car I've ever owned. Changed the tyres to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and it's a totally different animal. Never thought just changing the tyres would make such a difference. If in doubt, test drive it, but know if you do test drive it, you will buy it!
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I have to ask.... what is the first best car you owned?
@@andymoore9977 Best handling car I've had is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce Ti. Unfortunately had to sell as getting too tight for the growing kids in the back. Driving the Giulia around winding country lanes at speed, immense handling, such a joy. Some day will go for the QV once the kids get their own cars. Plus in 3yrs of ownership, zero issues.
@@mtrashid70 Thanks for sharing.
I bought a 2 year old XK8 Convertible 24 years ago, apart from a manufacturer timing chain tensioner fault it was completely trouble free. It took me 10 years to part with it as I loved driving it from day one. I replaced it with a Hilux to transport my dogs about, it was horrid in comparison albeit also uber reliable.
How does this relate to a Maserati.....
Lovely car indeed, I never would have thought it a diesel, sounds wonderful.
Nice down to earth realistic video description - bet it’s sold within two weeks
Nice Motor Lee and as it's been looked after it shouldn't be any further problems ( DPF's? ) . I've been scarred as my neighbour had a 4200 cambricorsa (08 reg) which despite being well maintained threw up a different issue every month . He finally sold it to WBAC and cut his losses.
Yes them old breed Maserati's are trouble. This has never even had a dpf light on, its been fantastic. Very different build car from 2012 onwards.
Hello Lee
Would you make a video about : reliable automatic cars you could buy ( 10k pound and under ) and talk about both gasoline and diesel options ?
how times have changed. back in the early 80s I used to service an original Ghibli (AM115) at our garage when I was a teenager. few cars were as exotic or unreliable. it used to come in coughing and farting and leave sounding like a symphony roughly every 2 weeks.
👍🤣 yes they were not the best for reliability them original ghibli's
Driving about in that Maserati with a hoodie on made you look as if you'd stolen it off a driveway. 😀
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Given the review, he might very welll have discovered a modern day classic? 🤔
@@carukchannel Sell the engine and box from it for 5k and drop in an LS6 V8 on a 5 speed manual box ! 550BHP and a clutch !
I'm gettin you fella, all the stupid/sarcastic comments about buying this. Makes it easier for the sensible an passionate to buy cars. Nice work fella ;-)
Thanks david, I can be critical of vehicles but I only do that with knowledge / experience of working on them or driving them. Lots of misconceptions about a lot of cars today
We had a 2016 Ghibli S and ran it from 39k miles to 80k. Never a problem. Decent economy and superbly comfortable. Ours had the top spec leather which is important. Easy to live with and really reliable. The infotainment isn't the best but the soundtrack is......
60 or so years ago, as a kid in junior school, I had a Maserati Dinky toy, the best playground racer I ever had - I've loved the name and the marque ever since. Lovely car sir, wish I had the readies!
great to watch Lee what a great car and deal your offering
Lovely car, just buy what makes you happy. I saw a lovely Ferrari 330gts this morning, 1968? Made my day.
Now that's a car 330 gts
@ silver blue, surprised how tiny it was next to all the modern stuff.
Good review from a genuine owner, salesman aside.
Hi Lee great video as usual, I’m not being big headed but I’ve always had nice cars ie Mercedes, BMWs and Alfas…but the Maserati is absolutely beautiful and it is a lifetime achievement for me to actually own one.
Thanks for watching nervo, I like a Merc to be fair. Ran a CLS320 for a couple of years and then sold it to my dad who ran it for few more years. Great car
great vid Lee and nice car, and your right if you say to any one you drive a Maserati they no its a bit special 👍
Enjoyed watching this, thanks for sharing! Makes a change from watching a channel like Hoovies that keeps buying knackered editions (the v6 petrol) and complain about it, although the Levante he got ended up going well.
Also totally hear you on the buying something different, I ended up with an Infiniti Q30 because its that bit rarer and different compared to the Merc GLA its based on. Reactions are always fun, those that know, know, lol and those that dont, their confusion is amusing to see.
But again thanks for sharing this, always been Ghibi curious!
I do like the Maseratis and that is a beaut. Interesting to hear just how well you got on with yours, most reviews I've seen are of the oldest, highest mileage examples that have been abused.
Excellent motor, village i live in Wakefield someone has a Black Ghibli & Gran Tourismo also a white Quattroporte in the village.
Great advice for a prospective Maserati purchaser, looks and sounds great, enjoy the Quattroporte👍
Love the content Lee , a real life car dealer , warts and all , keep it coming
The want is strong!
Nice car, never been in one personally, but it looks great in the blue too! I’ve owned lots of cars throughout y driving life and never really had issues with any of them (mechanical wise). But then I was obsessed (still am) about getting my car serviced regularly and just looking after the car. Some people treat their car as a tip and run them for years, it breaks down then they slag the car off! 😂
💯 correct thanks 🎉😊
Good video, always thought should I have a go with one. Definitely thinking about it now. 👍
Lovely car. Great to see you on Shifting Metal pod cast. I watch all the car channels.
Wow,had no idea that was diesel Lee,I remember you turning up one Saturday morning at your previous business and thought it sounded really nice,also completely agree with the uniroyal tyres,I've been running them for years on my cars started with rainsport 3,obviously have the rainsport 5 now fantastic tyres done nearly 20k on the set on my old car,track use included and still have around 4mm of tread,very underated tyre in my opinion!good luck with sale and the pitch👍👍👌👌
Thanks david, yes Uniroyals are spot on
Lee. That was fab. Thanks. Trade to Trade. I knew none of this. I'll steer clear the petty if one is cheap
Great review Lee. Always had Italian cars and had few issues. Get a good one, do your research, search out the generic parts and they are fantastic value and great fun to drive. I really enjoy your pods.
100% agree.....go on you know you want one! PS Lovely colour!
Thanks for your prompt reply, I recently had my 2014 Peugeot 508 2ltr tdi in for attention
and was given a list of findings after diagnostics. The garage said I should take the car to an authorised Peugeot dealer to fully understand and attend to the findings as they didn't have full access. The garage is part of a large franchise and well equipped but not enough apparently which is disappointing, such is life.
Beautiful car Lee you have excellent taste! 👍
Lovely blue colour.... A higher maintenance vehicle but for those that have a bit of money kept aside it should be fine...
The diesel sounds great...
The person who buys that car from you has bought the car of their life.
Everyone knows you love it.
Beautiful car,I have an S500 coupe but if I was thinking of swapping you have just convinced me that this is an option 👍
Brilliant video Lee, and I'm now sold on the car. Been looking at both the Ghibli and the Quattroporte for ages. The usual worries were forefront after some of the UA-cam videos out there (have you seen the Doug Demuro review???).
Thanks for putting my mind at rest.
I would buy it.. No problem. But parking it outside of my terraced house. Would be a No No, See you in the next one. 👍👍
I have a 64 plate DV6 and park it outside my 'terraced house' - in Liverpool! Still there as no one truly understands what it is 😂 - just go for it, you'll be surprised.
Beautiful car... if I was in the position to buy another car and was looking at that price range then I would have yours because your honest and present it well and know your stuff.... hope someone snaps it up quick...its a great car
First time here - (recommended by ShitingMetal). Good one - lots of great info. Liked and subscribed! 🇨🇦
Another fantastic video and an insight in the modern Maserati.
We need a review on the stunning gran turismo. Looks 10/10 fella.
Maybe in a few months, took me 2 years to review this one 🤣
Lee I get the same with alfa romeo I've had alot of cars in my time .but I've always had a big love of Italian cars mainly alfa .my giulia quadrifoglio is a dream to own and drive.but as I say people the 1st thing I get is reliability . Most of these people have never been near these cars Italian cars are amazing.
Thanks ian
I was really tempted by one of these when I was after a new car 18 months ago but chickened out and got a BMW 330d instead.
Lee, what a great video, it's so tempting, not one I would ever have considered in the past. Hmm, food for thought.. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting take on the Maserati, which as you say have a very bad, perhaps undeservedly, reputation for reliability. It will be interesting to see if your new Maser will turn out to be as reliable as this Ghibli.
The levante is a totally different vehicle and rock solid. A better used vehicle value..as a mechanic and engine builder for 45 years I can't find fault in mine
Driven one and its very nice the levante, did try get the wife in one but no joy.
Thank you. I had not considered one before.
Do us a favour Lee switch the badge onto the C1 or 107 🤗and shake my hand that's the only budget I can afford but I want a maserati lol haha
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Lovely car. Italian cars are genuinely as reliable as most German cars. If anything German cars have got worse over the last decade
I bought a brand new Mito and within days it developed gearbox oil leaks and recurring electrical faults !
Long story short, got shut and bought a Mercedes which has never gone wrong in 8 years of ownership, in fact
best car I've ever owned !! ( Former motor mechanic for 45 years )
Great video Lee👍🏻 lovely looking car
Get car Lee. Best of luck with the sale
It's off a FIAT PANDA! Love it!
Great looking motor. I’d need to sell my 2012 530d first though!
Great video, thanks Lee.
Never knew Maserati did a diesel & i've been in the motor trade for years....but we never did high end car in that area. Another thing never knew Brabus was diesel till a mate picked me up in one when i was in Ibiza back in 2017. 😮Only one in ibiza at the time.
Thank you Lee. I asked for this a long time ago and am glad you did the video for us. As you said if you service and maintain it it will run. I was just concerned about it being a diesel and issues with DPF's and things like that. It looks such a nice car and very comfortable. Is it expensive to Insure?
I just watched a 30min advert lol.
Good work fella.
What a nice car Lee…..I feel the same about my Polo which I’ve owed for 5 years…. If I had the cash I’d think about it…😉
That is a beautiful car and colour. Hope it sells soon for you. Maserati for Golf money? I am surprised it is still for sale. Nice one.
Beautiful car I would love to own one someday what is your next personal motor going to be you will find it hard to match this 😮👍
Maserati gran turismo I replaced it with
Looks lovely car that Lee.
Many thanks
Lovely motor Lee.
Such a nice looking car. Lovely.
Uniroyal. 'The Rain Tyre'.
Also called shark skins now by the youth 🤣👍
Such beautiful cars. Would just love to have a quick run around a race track. Too expensive for upkeep.
Lovely looking Car thanks ❤🎉😊
Always loved the cut of them.
Great review & a great car 👍
Thanks! 👍
Hi Lee a very nice motor,60k miles in 10 year's is nothing mate,especially if you have documented service history on it.
Yes I stamped it up myself with all the parts recorded. Prior to me it was full main dealer history.
Such a lovely car, one day maybe, about £13k short currently ;)
That is a lovely car Lee
This is a very nice car, I really like the colour ❤.
Many thanks katie
It's a gorgeous car Lee and obviously well cared for. The next owner will surely be a happy bunny. 👌🏻
many thanks 👍👍
What a superb motor if I had the money it would be sold
If you are into Italian cars (hint i am) there's nothing quite like them. They make you pull your hair out, but you're smiling whilst you do it. I've owned an Alfa (Giulia) and a Maserati (4200) and they're just special cars. Maseratis represent incredible value right now and are reliable if looked after.
Stunning Italian stallion 😉🤝
many thanks
I'm aware of two people that drive them, You! and Jamie Oliver
superb honest video
Keep up the graft on youtube enjoy watching your videos 👌 😉
those cars leave ALL other cars from Italy in the dust, there build is superb, makes a Ferrari look like a KA
ALL CARS HAVE PROBLEM WHEN THERE NOT LOOKED AFTER.
KEEP IT SERVICE AND WHEN PROBLEMS HAPPEN FIX IT.
Jaguar xj... nuff said.
most decent review.
Well that just proved to me I knew Foxtrot Alpha about Mazzers
That's a beautiful car Lee i had better stick with my Octavia 😅
Fantastic video, I’ve been waiting for a while for you to talk about your Maserati’s. I’ve had a trouble free Granturismo for the last four years. Every drive is sensational, never had any issues.
It’s an exclusive club I’m happy to be part of.
I am now in that club, running a 2014 GT Sport in blue. Love it but there are some bits from the ghibli I prefer 🤣👍
As all the videos available on UA-cam will show you, never buy Maserati! But nice looking car
Great review, I would buy it unfortunately I live in Australia
Lovely Car
Beautiful motor,
Many thanks lee
I owned 2017 model and it was brilliant but it was the depreciation that’s the problem
Im thinking, Ive got £4k I won at poker, I could pull 10K out of my pension fund in 2weeks, ....but Ive not got room for another car, and Im miles away at Cambridge! How can you torment me like this. Its a beauty, I was looking at Quattroporte's a while back cos of the design, they do look good. Had a Stag for a few years in the 90's but it was the preverbial money pit...not the engine-the gearbox, diff, hood, shocks and bushes. I gave up when the sills started rusting. Mmmm park the Rav on the grass? Any idea on how much-ish the insurance is for a no points 66yr old '?
I have a trade policy so hard to say, but I would not see it any more than a e class merc or bmw m sport territory
He’s bought another one so that should tell you they are ok
A very good car reviewer I reckon.