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Honda E review - this is the electric car we need!
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We took delivery of ours a couple of weeks ago (also blue but with the 17 inch inch wheels). Real world range is about 150km before you start thinking you're going to be marooned somewhere. That's fine as we rarely do much more than that a week. Rear view mirror, if you flip the knob, is also a camera and screen. I prefer the proper mirror there though. Overall, we love it. It's the wife's car but I keep borrowing it. It's not perfect and is due a software update soon, but it's definitely a 9/10 from us.
How much
Rick Oz, did the software update arrive ?
@@munirshafi2647 No unfortunately not. The App still doesn't work here which is a bit of a pain.
The dash brought the Rover SD1 to mind.
I drove this car a couple of months ago and absolutely loved it! Coming from an e-Niro and doing lots of long trips, I'd struggle with the range, but I would go to lots of inconvenience to have one of these. It's a joy
I loved this car in Frankfurt last year too. It's actually cheaper than I thought it would be. I love the dash and mirrors too. It's going to be very appealing to people with short commutes. Looking forward to your full review.
That household plug socket is handy for when you want to hoover out the car
Or a microwave oven.
Or charge another electric car...
Or mow the lawn.
Who else seen car throttle 🤣
Wonder dose it work while been charged for the tae
Just saw a white one coming out of Tesco in Clane , looks amazing and lovely and small. After seeing it in the wild I am a big fan !!
Ey up Bob, how did you find the camera wing mirrors? Don't think you said. ;-)>
If it has a wide lens it could be good. It's not like a trad mirror where you can see more behind you as you move your head around while driving. Hope I explained that well! 🤔
@@R-Tap It has the option in the menu for a wide angle lens. Just the outer 1/3.similar to a normal mirror. Simple enough to do and IMO should be the default setup. But yes, you're right, you can't move your head around to see more. So far it's not been a problem. They are a bit weird to start with but you get used to them.
Never thought I’d hear you call a car cute 🤣. I love the retro looks, front end reminds me of a cross between a Mk2 Escort and a mk1/2 Golf.
Have you noticed that cars with single round headlights that look like eyes have become the biggest classics e.g. classic Minis or Defenders? I predict that this Honda will also become a cult classic
@@fisherengineering a lot of American muscle cars have/had round lights too, I love the look it gives
In 2021, this car will be no less significant to many markets than the Mini was in 1959. I think Honda will sell them by the absolute bucketful. And thats a good thing, Honda make really well engineered product.
Honda has really made a great electric car here. The car is a great size for Ireland's cities and roads. And as always Honda has put some great styling In their vehicle.
For the last 15 years I've had large saloons for motorway miles - Mazda 6, Mondeo, Passat, etc. Now I'm working from home 90% of the time I have a Grandland X Hybrid4 as my company car, which I love. But.... I'm really liking this Honda! I have a charge point at home and at work so this car would never run out of juice, and I agree that the exterior and interior are really unique and desirable. I have some hard (but fun!) choices when new car time comes around next year!
Nice, how do your find the Grandland? Curious about the electric/petrol ratio for the average driver. On the one hand, the car can still be used if the battery dies. On the other hand, you have the complexity of the hybrid drivetrain which I'd trust Toyota most with.
This car is just awesome! Honda did it right, that's what a build from the ground up EV should be like. This thing is so much more exciting than the new VW ID.3
MAN MARRIES WING MIRROR. Great review - you captured the soul of the car. Would love to rent one of these on holidays etc. Would make a great smaller second car (which EVs are ideal for)
Great review Bob!
Thanks Oisin!
Love how you love the rear view mirrors.
I like the positivity in this review. I am a petrol head but even I like this car simply because it looks like a modern version of those old hatches from the 80s and 90s. I might buy one in 10-15 years when they are everywhere and cheap.
I like how you do things in reviews .
Nice to hear your enthusiasm on this new to me Honda
Are you going to do a proper review of the Mini SE, I think the Honda E, Mazda MX-30 and Mini SE fit a great spot in the market for suburban cars.
thanks Bob, looking forward to your full review, hope you have found out a bit more about the car by then 😉 i.e the screens are switchable..I remeber telling my dad in 197* / 1980ish that the Rover Sd1 we got a lift in was like a spaceship....he bought one soon after
Nice eye opener as to what we can expect coming "down the road".I'm interested in seeing more but as yet you'd need a crowbar to get me out of mine 😂
Agree the addition of Analogue Controls combined with Digital is what drivers want. Now the only caveat is that i see a lot of Cars with Capacative or Touch screen controls also have Voice Activation for a lot of their controls. Tesla for eg is excellent for voice control so you can live without the " knobs " but id personally prefer them as voice control doesnt allways work for some peoples accents, and is a distraction .
Interesting car bob and knobs for aircon are great, But what do you think of the rear view cameras!.
I wished he'd talked about the rear view mirrors, I watched the whole video wondering whether he liked them or not!
He does know the main rear mirror is also digital because it looks like it’s on just the reflection like the old style. You turn the bottom it goes to camera.
Jesus, That looks amazing! Defo would like to see those rear view at night time when you've got it again in a few weeks.
The electric car we need, at twice the price we need it at. Good review as always though.
Nice review as always, can't wait for your Enyaq review without the camouflage.
It defo would be in my 10 car garage to offset the carbon mess my 599GTO would create. Cool, very cool.
Got door mirrors on my car...even if they get broken, I can still see through them. Seems a lot of innovation for innovations sake.
You'd be surprised at the impact on aerodynamics wing mirrors can have. As much as 10% of energy consumption at 120km/h.
Corrected title: Honda E review - these are the rear-view mirrors we need!
Hi Bob, does the higher spec model not have a camera for the interior mirror also? Saw it on a UK test....
It’s there but I didn’t show it in the video, you flip the knob and it’s a camera.
@@BobFlavinVideo What’s your Twitch account Bob? Couldn’t find a link for it in the description
It's also amazing, camera is at the back so no issue with people, blind spots or headrests in your field of view....
@@johndunne7376 I find the rearview mirror better when used as a proper mirror. Focal distance is, what, 5 meters or more away. Screen is too close to focus on quickly (with my aging eyes, anyway!)
So do you like that rearview mirror Bob?😂😂😂
Liking the look of that. Look forward to the full review.
I really like the look of these, and the concept Honda are going for. As a few others have said, a side by side of this and the MINI would be interesting. Same aim for stylish looks and everyday range, but which is the most fun. And which do you just have to look back at each time you lock up and walk away?
Looks great. Have you test drove the polestar 2 yet??
I'd love this if only....the range. You can get an id3 for the same price with twice the range!. Hopefully next version will be at least 180 mile.
Cmon with yer van, will ya ! Lol class Bob.
did that one not have the camera rear view mirror toggle too ?
I know it’s a big ask but if they somehow made a type r version of this e I would be extremely excited for it, I love the 80s Japanese vibes it gives, defo got a lot of hope for the Honda e and it’s future.
Hey Bob, id3, went in to *order* one today, it seems like either vw dearships have either gotten bad info from vw, got greedy or misinterpreted what vw were telling them. The dealership told me the price of the tech model had gone up 3 or so grand. Meanwhile vrt has halved and still entitled to 2.5 of vrt rebate along with the seai grant. Dealership wee under the impression vrt rebate was completely gone. I had to walk out of the dealership and say get back to me until the vw website is updated. They’ve taken orders since budget so I hope they’ll refund!
Dash too reminds me of a fire hearth - maybe a carriage clock ⏰ defo a Golf mk 1 in the design too
I want one Bob!! (Cries like a baby).
Prefer the old civic hatchbacks ek,ej and eg's nothing will change my love for them
Maybe there is something place but the charging box on the bonnet looks like if you want to charge and it’s raining it’s going to get a lot of water in it.
Has a drain hole... shouldn't be a problem. The Type 2 and CCS2 connectors are designed to allow use in all weathers. Obviously not submerged but anything short of a power washer pointed directly at it should be fine.
Wish they had this in North America!
"we have a decent sized boot, it's very small". lol
Spare wheel ???
@@johnhodge1263 that was a quote from Bob when he opened the boot, not sure how a boot can be a decent size and very small?
@@AL-ib3lu Yes indeed, looks like he avoided lifting panal in boot to inspect space below cables.
No spare wheel. Motor lives under the boot floor. Boot is good for shopping, but not if you buy a month's worth at a time. Seats fold down so it's more practical than it looks. It is a small car though so won't suit everyone.
Looking forward to the long term review of this Bob, will you be getting the Mazda mx30? They seem to be going with the same strategy of having a reasonable battery size to cover the day to day driving of most people 50-60km a day
Love wee camera on the car
Honda at it's best
Great review of this car. Physical buttons for the climate control are just so important.
did I miss it or are there only two seatbelts in the back?
Yep, this is a 4-seater. Also folds as one piece rather than split-fold.
Paddy Downey Its a 4 seats car .
Good review, good info. Looks not my taste. Pudjit e208 seems a nicer car. But the honda could be a great city car. Like the interior
I love it! Exciting to see what comes to America in the next few years in the way of smaller urban cars. Now that I've lived with my Chevy Bolt EV a year I would be much more comfortable with less range since I can charge at home, and the new situation for me is permanent work from home. Knobs!!! I wouldn't buy a car that only has touch screen to control everything.
I prefer the physical knobs and buttons as well. I think the Volt was a great idea, no range anxiety but you're still in electric mode most of the time. I heard the MX 30 will be introducing a Wankel engine as a range extender. Without that, you either need a bigger battery for longer trips, be prepared for the non Tesla charging hassle, or you'll need a rental. How do you find the Bolt so far?
Thanks great video if we needed a city car we would buy Honda e or mini e .
The VW XL1 was the first production car to have those camera mirrors. They are good, however when older the electrics will fail, and unlike good old fashioned reflective glass they won't work.
7:55 Its heavier than the 50kWh, 210mile range Peugeot e206 so, no more excuses for the short range. Still a great car though.
People just dont get the range at all. They think they have to empty the battery before charging it on some damn slow chsrger for 2000 hours. They dont realize you plug it in in the destination, you plug it in at home. Personally I only plug it in at work.
I'm not sure. I like the design, but I'm not sure I could live with the range. But I suppose in fairness to Honda it isn't aiming the car at people in rural Ireland! I think I'll stick with my Kona EV.
So, it has cameras instead of mirrors for slipstreaming and aerodynamics, , but, it is a city car, 20 to 30 MPH.
Where they put that charging port though.....
She'd be a fine yoke in fairness all the same
But did you feel a fizzling in your man parts from the mirrors bob
There's a Nob in the car, yes. He talks about nobs.
Im just kidding, i really like this thing.
If they bump it up to 50kwh I’m all in 👍
Anyone else think the rear looks like the front of a VW transporter T3??
It is not so much doing 210 Kms in one hit, it is the 8 hour charge in between. A good diesel car gives 500+ miles on a tank, takes 3 minutes to fill up.
If youre doing a long journey its rated to take 30 minutes to get to 80% charge anyway, plus you have an outlet to plug whatever you want in to pass the time. Yeah the diesel is going to do more mileage quicker but realistically this suits most peoples needs, the average commuter who is going and out of down everyday for work or going to the local shop.
Compliance car not enough range Honda dosent want to impact ice range
You’ve really gotta rethink the game. Instead of saying “oh well it takes an hour to fill up” why not think “I can turn my house and my place of work into a petrol station”. If you take the odd 300km trip I’m sure you can find an excuse to get a cuppa coffee for 15-20mins and away you go. EVs charge. Really fast a low down state of charge (battery %) and then you just plug in overnight at your destination. It’s a different game with EVs. They are still 5-10k too expensive though.
@@stuartmchugh1754 I think we'll be in a vastly different environment in five years' time as battery tech improves. A 15 min fast charge to get from 20-80.
@@PawelMrozik yes but ppl are making decisions now. Today. Why would you buy an electric car now if everyone is shouting “they will be twice as good but half the price within 3-5 years”... doesn’t bode well for 2nd hand prices of current EVs and therefore nobody will build the infrastructure.
There's a knob... A knob, there's a knob. Best quote. The child in me want to say, yeah, I can see the knob. :P
Great video by the way.
Finally, proof Honda can do a design that doesn't look like a 1 eyed mutant donkey. Give that designer a raise.
Am I the only person who really dislikes the aesthetics of this car? It looks like it should be branded Playskool, or Thomas The Tank Engine & Friends, to me.
@@ScrapKing73 I'd say you're in a minority!
Lol I own that blue Honda now😂
that's a toy for well off geeks. For the price it's quite small and range (way) too low. Great car though for the little things like going to the gym, quick shopping around the corner etc.. But then again, for that price I have an incredible choice of various cars - including electric cars like the Hyundai Ioniq. And finally the design really is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't think it's a great looking car, but it's different. That's what I probably would like.
I think your review is kind to the manufacturer, almost compliant. Whether it's Honda or any other brand, and especially when it comes to EVs where most brands have little experience and almost no track record, the reviews should be tough as hell. To ask 32K Euros (base model with no options in my country) for a small car with a realistic day to day range of around 150km is quite daring. How can anyone applaud to this?
Have you noticed that cars with single round headlights that look like eyes have become the biggest classics e.g. classic Minis or Defenders? I predict that this Honda will also become a cult classic
Don't forgot about the golf mark 1/2, bmw 3 series mark 1.
@@GeordiLaForgery exactly. There are probably loads of examples. Jeeps, Ford Broncos, Ford Cortinas etc. too... shows the importance of a “face” on a car in the long term to becoming universally loved 👁 👁
@@fisherengineering For sure, the Ford Broncos are exceptionally handsome - maybe we'll get a Honda E-SUV someday with removable doors. :-)
How much bob
Quirky - But range anxiety driving - Price wise & range - Kia E Soul still wins
I’ve been a fan of your great work for several years now, but, sad to say, this is not your best ! - excessive fascination and content time with the “door mirrors”, little else on other important aspects such as ride quality, interior space etc. One other constructive observation - that hand held camera is not working on this, and several recent videos, much too jerky for viewers, plus you often miss the subject your are talking about.
Nonetheless, I remain a fan, subscribed, wish you well and look forward to your next output.
Bob did say right at the outset, he was doing a more in depth review of the Honda E in a short while.
Be careful , very careful...Bob doesn't like criticism. I await his reply with baited breath....lol
It's a drivable android phone but it's not really that bad
Road tax? Why?
It’s motor tax, who’s gunna pay for the motoring infrastructure?
Oh dear
Do you have quite the affinity to knobs,we’d get along famously
This will not come to America! Tight tolerances, amazing... eat your heart out Volkswagen. The left and right “mirror” needs getting used to. It’s going to be a success!
How to electric car batteries handle stop go traffic? I mean it's not that uncommon to get stuck in traffic and your quick 20 min journey to take 3 hours
EV are the opposite to combustion vehicles. Power consumption scales directly with speed. If you are sitting in traffic not moving you're not using any power. At average speeds of 20-30km/h crawling along in traffic you'd see range of most EVs nearly double their WLTP rated range.
I'm from the back of beyond 20 km from the nearest charge what ev would suit someone from the country bad roads high hills and nothing near ya to help the ev driver
You regain some of the energy lost when going uphill with regenerative breaking when going downhill. It all depends on how far you're driving and if you can charge a home. The Zoe, for example, will take you much further than the Honda E on a single charge, but do you actually need it? For me the Honda E would work as a second car. My yardstick for an EV is whether or not I can get from Waterford to Dublin on a single charge, but your mileage may vary is an even more important phrase.
Nice little bus. ✌👍
I've become a believer in long range EVs. Not because I regularly do long-range trips, but because it will significantly increase the service life of the battery. If you double the size of the battery you would likely far more than double its life, especially if you take the opportunity to rarely charge it up to 100%. If your trips are usually 30-100 km, but your car has about 400 km of range, then you only need to charge to 60 or 70% most of the time. Charging to only 80% is good, but charging to even less is better (to the degree that you can also keep it above 30-40% on the low side, which you can easily do on a long range e-car).
Most batteries have a top buffer, so even at 100% you're not actually charging to 100%. Those that have TMS will definitely last longer. I personally like the range extender idea with a small battery, something they want to do with the MX30. The 64kWH Kona, for example, has amazing range but it is very very heavy for such a compact car.
@@PawelMrozik I'm aware that there's a top SOC buffer. There's usually a lower SOC buffer too. But those buffers are usually 7% or less, so charging to 100% means you're all the way up to 93% or more. That's higher than ideal for a long service life for the battery. 80% is better than 90%. 70% is better than 80%. I personally charge to 60% max. I want that battery to last the life of the car. I'm concerned that Honda-E batteries won't last the life of the car for many people. Whereas a battery twice the size that's charged to 70% probably would.
@@ScrapKing73 I'd say like most manufacturers with their first EVs, Honda have probably set up the BMS to act very conservatively. But I agree with the rest of your assessment.
Ugliest car I’ve ever seen Bob sorry and it’s a Honda , I had a new 2017 civic had to get rid of it there were so many problems and Honda Ireland were a joke to deal with. Honda not the car it used to be, even when you closed the door that sounds cheap.
Glad to hear it's not just me. After this channel and Fully Charged both raved about its looks I thought I might have been the only one that thought it looked unappealing.
I love the fact that 90% of people here like this toy of a car. I’m in the other 10% that likes Mazda MX30, same range, better looks, less geeky tech.
I hope Honda sells ton of these tho, it’s perfect for millennials honestly.
Too expensive
But it’s around the same price as the competition. All EVs are too expensive really.
I don't like it at all, not for me.
From the outside that doesn't look great, certainly not one of the best looking, for gods sake man it looks like the front is squashed, like it's crashed into something ;) I know looks are subjective but it's not a pretty car, not fugly either but certainly not pretty.