A clarification to #1 "Do use the appropriate charging speed" *when available*. If I pull in and the only available charger is a 350kW, I'm using it and not waiting for a 150kW to become free.
Exactly. Same rule I used to use at gas stations with combo gas & diesel and gas & ethanol free gas pumps. If a gas only pump is free I would use that to leave the diesel or no ethanol free for someone who may need it. But if those are the only pumps available, I would take one.
Something that could be added; If you have a Ford charging at a supercharger, use the most right space and if you have a Tesla, charge on the left. Mix and matching will waste more spaces.
I got an EV around three weeks ago and just got a charger installed at home. There was nothing more frustrating than going to a DC charger nowhere near my house, only to find that the only available spot was blocked by a trailer! I wish everyone had to watch this video when they bought an EV.
I have a bonus tip. If your charging at a hotel. Move your car when it is charged. Even if it is midnight or early in the morning. If your not charging your blocking.
Thanks for these! Craig, did you see that Electrify America recently put out a memo saying that they’re starting idle fees in August? The fees don’t seem high enough to be a deterrent, and there’s a 10 minute grace period. But hey, it’s putting people on notice.
6:04 In my region we only have 1 AC and DC cabinet at each location because EVs are still kinda new to us for AC charging 1 single cable and for DC 1 single cabinet with 2 DC cables and 1 AC cable or just 2 DC cables and its share we don't have the option for using a different cabinet and even then it's very rare to see an EV driver use them because you gust it home charging
I will leave a sign in my 7:40 window stating "ok to unplug" if green light is solid (full on my Bolt) or you need to get to destination, if I am convenient charging
I like to hit stop charging on my phone when I hit 80%. It's on a not infrequent basis that someone would want to use the charger I use, notably because the alternative station has a problem and doesn't do more than 35kw
I wish my workplace would starty charging people for not moving their cars when done. it is so frustrating. The more expensive the car, the least likely they are to move it.
We have had our model 3 x 1 year and are just lately adopting letting the charge drop to between 10 - 20% then only charging to 70 - 80 %. Much faster charging rates! Cheaper as well.
When we first started driving EVs on the regular, we admit that we weren't comfortable draining the battery to 10% or less. But now that we're comfortable with it, we do it all the time.
wait, it charges it faster to the 70-80% range than say starting from over 20%? or is this only for capable batteries with faster charging speeds such as long range model 3? I just bought the base rwd model 3 and I'm curious if dropping my range between 10-20% will work for me.
do you know if the mobile charger plugged into a 240V 14-15 connection but using a 60A breaker and larger cable would allow to charge at 48A? or the mobile units not as capable as the hard wired units? Getting our R1s next week.
A couple of weeks ago we visited a public charging station, a woman left a whole bag of trash from her meal in her parking spot when she left. I was frosted!
Hm, the unplugged rule seems really odd to me. As others have stated, I think the rule should be that it’s correct to gently unplug somebody when they’re done charging. I’m new to this and haven’t yet even gone to a public charger, but my first instinct is to park in a way that someone could take the plug out of mine and put it in theirs if I happen to be finished and haven’t got back to the car yet. In fact, I’m pretty sure in my manual there’s setting that says to unlock it when it’s done charging and I assumed that’s what it’s for. Well, now that I know it’s considered “bad etiquette” . I think I’ll put a sign in saying go ahead and unplug me if I’m done.
its possible to charge 2 tesla cars at once at home? i will use the 240 outlet with the tesla mobile kit cable and tesla gen3 wall connector...i still have room for my box in the garage for more breakers...i believe its 200 amp box
what about if the only working charger is a fast charger and my time worth not for trip miles away to get a charger that match with the car charge characteristics? a bit absurd that if don't use a high power charger in a car that doesn't need that, when is not even a expanded nationwide charge stations as for have the luxury to pick up your favorite
Once upon a time, there was a trustworthy and proud new EV owner named Jake and a friendly property manager named Susan. Jake wanted to trickle-charge his EV using the common area electrical outlet next to his parking stall. However, Susan didn't have the budget to pay for the cost of installing a metered charging station. Wanting to help Jake, Susan suggested they install EVnSteven. Thanks to this one simple app, they both lived happily ever after 💚💚
more confused than ever. i have a tesla model y. supposedly, using the supercharger all the time is a "no-no". but if i use the level 2 charger, i am committing a charging faux pas? how often can use the supercharger on my tesla?
I like all of these except the unplugging roll if your vehicle is done charging and you’re nowhere to be found then expect to be nicely and gently unplugged so I can get myself charged up and where I need to be
I think it’s totally ok to unplug someone when they are done charging. When I do that I usually leave a note and often the other person will leave a note back to the tune of “no problem!” It’s like at a laundromat, you need to be there when the machine finishes otherwise it’s ok for others to remove your clothes so that they can use the machine.
5:03 - I agree _in concept_ that Tesla owners should not charge at non-Tesla charging stations, *_with exceptions_* . Why “with exceptions”? #1: There are occasional gaps in Tesla Supercharger coverage, so having an EA or EVgo membership as a backup is important. Which leads to #2: Many non-Tesla networks require you to pay for a minimum of, for example, $10 charging per month. So, you need to charge at least $10 worth to break even. So, I’m fine with Tesla owners charging at networks that charge such a fee, provided that there is at least one more charging station available at that site after they plug in, and provided they don’t hog it for too long.
Love the effort, but people have been filling with liquid dinosaurs forever and still cant manage to use common customs and courtesies when doing so. I can imagine this type of issue only becoming more prevalent as adoption rates rise. Thank goodness most charging can or should be done at home. If there's a problem there, at least you have some ability to enact change.
Rule 1, suppose the 350kw is the only working charger at the site for your 55kw bolt. I say you can certainly use it. Rule 2, if you need the miles til the next charger, and there are places where the chargers are too far apart, feel free to charge above 80% Lastly I don't think most people care if a Tesla person uses a non-tesla charger. The Rest of the rules seem great.
Just got my EV earlier this week. Calculated that charging will be done every 2-4 weeks. Yeah, I really do not drive that much. Hopefully, I will get my home charger installed quickly (all up the electrician getting the township permits first) and only have a few trips to public chargers my first few months of EV ownership.
Hi Steve, Maybe, you'd have been better-off to buy a PHEV if your driving time is so limited. We would have gone to an EV too, except for the cost. We don't drive a lot either so the thought of spending $60,000 for a car was, fleeting. So we bought our third Prius instead. This time a Prime. It cost over $20,000 less than an entry level EV and, even for a base model it's well appointed and comfortable. We can't opine on other brands PHEV offerings because neither of us has experienced any. But, this Prime has impressed us immensely. After 5,000+Km we have burned less than 1.5 tanks of gas. We plug in at home every night (.1325kwh cost), and now that it's warm, the car will travel as far as 90Km on a charge. Much further than the advertised range. Should a road trip be required the car returns around 60+mpg in hybrid mode. Also, the Prime comes with an onboard charger that simply needs a 115 volt outlet. If one wants though, you can source a 220 volt level 2. Hope your EV serves you well for a long time.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm My EV is a lease -- saved me $10,000 over MSRP, which I couldn't beat with a PHEV + I love how the Niro EV drives. I won't keep it past lease, so in 2027, I'll turn it in and either lease another EV, or buy an EV. I think I will probably never get an ICE vehicle again. Besides, by 2027, the batteries may not be Li-Ion anymore, or I'll be dead from a nuke war started by Trump.
@@Steve_in_NJ I see your point. Especially as for several reasons "the arse is gone" out of the resale market for EV's at the moment. Very hard to read the public regards how the whole thing will end-up in the long run. With your lease arrangement you have no risk. Smart. I was just listening to our national news radio broadcast. And even here in Canada the lead story was about Biden. Can't imagine the pressure he has to be under. Looking at your current political situation from "the outside" it all seems so surreal. Trump. He's the very rarest of persons; both an asshole and an arsehole. Why have we not heard calls for Obama to reemerge and step-in for President Biden should he sacrifice his position for the best of reasons. Not looking forward to November, not one bit.
Biggest problem that I frequently encounter is that of finding the charging point bay obstructed by a family filled ICE SUV, pick-up or flat bed. The charging points generally have wider bays to allow for vehicle side cable plug-ins but these are also just great for loading kids, prams and shopping in a hurry when the weather is poor.
Thanks for all the Etiquette tips. Most of them i knew from other watched videos. How about: Don't light up a cigarette when handling a charging cable!!! LOL!!! Just kidding! Most the time I am charging only at home. My daily travels are not that far. Great videos. Take care.
Just bought a Tesla - supercharging (level 3) is bad for the battery and I avoid it whenever possible. So sorry, I will be on the EVgo chargers (level 2) with my Tesla.
In case she ever sees this… Shout out to the lady and daughter in the ioniq 5 who on 10/22/23 @1130am decided to unplug me and end my session while charging at target Van Nuys just because they “really needed it” The way you show up in one part of your life is the way you show up in all other aspects. So basically they’re entitled/rude/clueless in everything they do 🤷♂️
I was not aware that (some?), EV's don't "lock" the plug when it's engaged at the charge port. Our 24 Prime locks the cord as soon as it's plugged-in and won't release until the car doors are unlocked. It's meant to discourage theft of the cable, not to prevent que jumping as apparently you've encountered. We ourselves are very lucky, we can charge at home.
A View from the UK. Great video, mostly common sense, but how many people seem not to have any. This is only going to get worse with more electric cars.
Ngl… I had to stop watching this video mid way because it just seems nit picking every faucet of EV charging. Here’s a better stance. “Be a decent human. And if not, oh well, get over it.”
Were they at 100%? If not, might be a bit presumptive to interpret what their charging needs may have been (even if they're only creeping along in pulling KW).
@@EVPulseMy understanding is the EA BARELY decided the were actually going to charge idle fees which apparently they weren’t before even tho it says that they will.
The video: “Don’t interfere with other people by blocking stations or meddling with their cars.” Everyone else in the comments “This is all just ‘don’t be a jerk.’” You: “What a hassle I could never do this.”
If you own an EV, then you'll know that every morning you wake up with 100% charge and you rarely have to deal with DC fast charging only when you take a long trip
We'd have bought an EV, gladly, if it wasn't for the cost. Our EV options here all have a starting price of $60,000. So, we went with a PHEV that cost over $20,000 less. Charge at home exclusively and after 5,000+Km we have used less than 1.5 tanks of gas. If the cost for an EV ever matches what we paid for our PHEV we'll buy one.
Probably because we are still at the beginning of the EV era and not everybody know all from the get go. I saw my father fill his truck so when it was my turn it was easy, when the pay before filling has begin it has taken me a minute to figure how to pay to fill. EV are easy, its just something to learn,
People transitioning from horse drawn carriages to cars might have watched instructional silent films. Teenagers learning how to drive watch instructional videos _now_ so what's your point here 😂
Etiquette shmetiquette! When you charge at home, you make the rules! Learn all about it: ua-cam.com/video/jNE9VCFKDTQ/v-deo.html
A clarification to #1 "Do use the appropriate charging speed" *when available*. If I pull in and the only available charger is a 350kW, I'm using it and not waiting for a 150kW to become free.
Exactly. Same rule I used to use at gas stations with combo gas & diesel and gas & ethanol free gas pumps. If a gas only pump is free I would use that to leave the diesel or no ethanol free for someone who may need it. But if those are the only pumps available, I would take one.
Something that could be added; If you have a Ford charging at a supercharger, use the most right space and if you have a Tesla, charge on the left. Mix and matching will waste more spaces.
I got an EV around three weeks ago and just got a charger installed at home. There was nothing more frustrating than going to a DC charger nowhere near my house, only to find that the only available spot was blocked by a trailer! I wish everyone had to watch this video when they bought an EV.
I have a bonus tip. If your charging at a hotel. Move your car when it is charged. Even if it is midnight or early in the morning. If your not charging your blocking.
Thanks for these! Craig, did you see that Electrify America recently put out a memo saying that they’re starting idle fees in August? The fees don’t seem high enough to be a deterrent, and there’s a 10 minute grace period. But hey, it’s putting people on notice.
If the appropriate dispenser isn't available, use what's IS available
2:35 - I’m fine with unplugging other people’s EVs, including mine, *_if_*_ they’re fully charged_ .
6:04 In my region we only have 1 AC and DC cabinet at each location because EVs are still kinda new to us for AC charging 1 single cable and for DC 1 single cabinet with 2 DC cables and 1 AC cable or just 2 DC cables and its share we don't have the option for using a different cabinet and even then it's very rare to see an EV driver use them because you gust it home charging
I will leave a sign in my 7:40 window stating "ok to unplug" if green light is solid (full on my Bolt) or you need to get to destination, if I am convenient charging
I like to hit stop charging on my phone when I hit 80%. It's on a not infrequent basis that someone would want to use the charger I use, notably because the alternative station has a problem and doesn't do more than 35kw
I wish my workplace would starty charging people for not moving their cars when done. it is so frustrating. The more expensive the car, the least likely they are to move it.
We have had our model 3 x 1 year and are just lately adopting letting the charge drop to between 10 - 20% then only charging to 70 - 80 %. Much faster charging rates! Cheaper as well.
When we first started driving EVs on the regular, we admit that we weren't comfortable draining the battery to 10% or less. But now that we're comfortable with it, we do it all the time.
wait, it charges it faster to the 70-80% range than say starting from over 20%? or is this only for capable batteries with faster charging speeds such as long range model 3? I just bought the base rwd model 3 and I'm curious if dropping my range between 10-20% will work for me.
do you know if the mobile charger plugged into a 240V 14-15 connection but using a 60A breaker and larger cable would allow to charge at 48A? or the mobile units not as capable as the hard wired units? Getting our R1s next week.
A couple of weeks ago we visited a public charging station, a woman left a whole bag of trash from her meal in her parking spot when she left. I was frosted!
We see it a ton, even when there's a trash can at the station! But there should also be more trash cans at more stations.
Thanks for sharing your horrible experience 🤡
Can you run the heat or Ac and Radio while charging the battery
Hm, the unplugged rule seems really odd to me. As others have stated, I think the rule should be that it’s correct to gently unplug somebody when they’re done charging. I’m new to this and haven’t yet even gone to a public charger, but my first instinct is to park in a way that someone could take the plug out of mine and put it in theirs if I happen to be finished and haven’t got back to the car yet. In fact, I’m pretty sure in my manual there’s setting that says to unlock it when it’s done charging and I assumed that’s what it’s for. Well, now that I know it’s considered “bad etiquette” . I think I’ll put a sign in saying go ahead and unplug me if I’m done.
its possible to charge 2 tesla cars at once at home? i will use the 240 outlet with the tesla mobile kit cable and tesla gen3 wall connector...i still have room for my box in the garage for more breakers...i believe its 200 amp box
Do I HAVE to charge my hybrid??
what about if the only working charger is a fast charger and my time worth not for trip miles away to get a charger that match with the car charge characteristics? a bit absurd that if don't use a high power charger in a car that doesn't need that, when is not even a expanded nationwide charge stations as for have the luxury to pick up your favorite
#8 is nonsense. You should want competition in the charger space. Any vehicle should be able to use any charger.
Once upon a time, there was a trustworthy and proud new EV owner named Jake and a friendly property manager named Susan. Jake wanted to trickle-charge his EV using the common area electrical outlet next to his parking stall. However, Susan didn't have the budget to pay for the cost of installing a metered charging station. Wanting to help Jake, Susan suggested they install EVnSteven. Thanks to this one simple app, they both lived happily ever after 💚💚
more confused than ever. i have a tesla model y. supposedly, using the supercharger all the time is a "no-no". but if i use the level 2 charger, i am committing a charging faux pas? how often can use the supercharger on my tesla?
I like all of these except the unplugging roll if your vehicle is done charging and you’re nowhere to be found then expect to be nicely and gently unplugged so I can get myself charged up and where I need to be
It takes 5 seconds to plug my car in the garage, when I do it in slow motion. There is nothing more convenient than that.
I think it’s totally ok to unplug someone when they are done charging. When I do that I usually leave a note and often the other person will leave a note back to the tune of “no problem!” It’s like at a laundromat, you need to be there when the machine finishes otherwise it’s ok for others to remove your clothes so that they can use the machine.
Thanks, great list.
It should play at all video capable stations...
5:03 - I agree _in concept_ that Tesla owners should not charge at non-Tesla charging stations, *_with exceptions_* .
Why “with exceptions”? #1: There are occasional gaps in Tesla Supercharger coverage, so having an EA or EVgo membership as a backup is important. Which leads to #2: Many non-Tesla networks require you to pay for a minimum of, for example, $10 charging per month. So, you need to charge at least $10 worth to break even.
So, I’m fine with Tesla owners charging at networks that charge such a fee, provided that there is at least one more charging station available at that site after they plug in, and provided they don’t hog it for too long.
Love the effort, but people have been filling with liquid dinosaurs forever and still cant manage to use common customs and courtesies when doing so. I can imagine this type of issue only becoming more prevalent as adoption rates rise. Thank goodness most charging can or should be done at home. If there's a problem there, at least you have some ability to enact change.
People, as a group, leave a lot to be desired.
@:47
omg! someone who understands!
I'm going to have to take a picture with you guys if I ever see you guys in Novi or Roseville charging stations!
Rule 1, suppose the 350kw is the only working charger at the site for your 55kw bolt. I say you can certainly use it.
Rule 2, if you need the miles til the next charger, and there are places where the chargers are too far apart, feel free to charge above 80%
Lastly I don't think most people care if a Tesla person uses a non-tesla charger.
The Rest of the rules seem great.
Yeah, if you need the juice get it. Also if its only available, that's cool. Absolutely.
Just got my EV earlier this week. Calculated that charging will be done every 2-4 weeks. Yeah, I really do not drive that much. Hopefully, I will get my home charger installed quickly (all up the electrician getting the township permits first) and only have a few trips to public chargers my first few months of EV ownership.
Hi Steve,
Maybe, you'd have been better-off to buy a PHEV if your driving time is so limited. We would have gone to an EV too, except for the cost. We don't drive a lot either so the thought of spending $60,000 for a car was, fleeting. So we bought our third Prius instead. This time a Prime. It cost over $20,000 less than an entry level EV and, even for a base model it's well appointed and comfortable.
We can't opine on other brands PHEV offerings because neither of us has experienced any. But, this Prime has impressed us immensely. After 5,000+Km we have burned less than 1.5 tanks of gas. We plug in at home every night (.1325kwh cost), and now that it's warm, the car will travel as far as 90Km on a charge. Much further than the advertised range. Should a road trip be required the car returns around 60+mpg in hybrid mode. Also, the Prime comes with an onboard charger that simply needs a 115 volt outlet. If one wants though, you can source a 220 volt level 2.
Hope your EV serves you well for a long time.
@@TomLawlor-iq6gm My EV is a lease -- saved me $10,000 over MSRP, which I couldn't beat with a PHEV + I love how the Niro EV drives. I won't keep it past lease, so in 2027, I'll turn it in and either lease another EV, or buy an EV. I think I will probably never get an ICE vehicle again. Besides, by 2027, the batteries may not be Li-Ion anymore, or I'll be dead from a nuke war started by Trump.
@@Steve_in_NJ I see your point. Especially as for several reasons "the arse is gone" out of the resale market for EV's at the moment. Very hard to read the public regards how the whole thing will end-up in the long run. With your lease arrangement you have no risk. Smart.
I was just listening to our national news radio broadcast. And even here in Canada the lead story was about Biden. Can't imagine the pressure he has to be under. Looking at your current political situation from "the outside" it all seems so surreal. Trump. He's the very rarest of persons; both an asshole and an arsehole. Why have we not heard calls for Obama to reemerge and step-in for President Biden should he sacrifice his position for the best of reasons. Not looking forward to November, not one bit.
If you had to make a video for this, does that mean that the situations you've described are situations that have actually happened??
lol! One of these was a technical tip and every single one could be summarised as ‘Don’t be a douche bag!’
Great Video!
Biggest problem that I frequently encounter is that of finding the charging point bay obstructed by a family filled ICE SUV, pick-up or flat bed. The charging points generally have wider bays to allow for vehicle side cable plug-ins but these are also just great for loading kids, prams and shopping in a hurry when the weather is poor.
What I learned about this video. Be a good human being.
It's difficult for some people, apparently.
@@EVPulse I have to agree. Love your videos btw!
@@sow_scout4989 Thank you!
I love the Tysons Punchout soundtrack
Golden rule of charging. If only people while driving also followed that same rule...
Simple ;dont get a milk float
Thanks for all the Etiquette tips. Most of them i knew from other watched videos.
How about:
Don't light up a cigarette when handling a charging cable!!! LOL!!! Just kidding!
Most the time I am charging only at home. My daily travels are not that far.
Great videos. Take care.
Just bought a Tesla - supercharging (level 3) is bad for the battery and I avoid it whenever possible. So sorry, I will be on the EVgo chargers (level 2) with my Tesla.
Exactly I use chare point chargers almost exclusively at this point
You either don't understand what the levels of charging mean or are planning to take incredibly slow road trips
@@mjc0961 I use superchargers for road trips - which are rare.
In case she ever sees this… Shout out to the lady and daughter in the ioniq 5 who on 10/22/23 @1130am decided to unplug me and end my session while charging at target Van Nuys just because they “really needed it” The way you show up in one part of your life is the way you show up in all other aspects. So basically they’re entitled/rude/clueless in everything they do 🤷♂️
That's why they make "Karen Locks".
I was not aware that (some?), EV's don't "lock" the plug when it's engaged at the charge port. Our 24 Prime locks the cord as soon as it's plugged-in and won't release until the car doors are unlocked. It's meant to discourage theft of the cable, not to prevent que jumping as apparently you've encountered. We ourselves are very lucky, we can charge at home.
A View from the UK. Great video, mostly common sense, but how many people seem not to have any. This is only going to get worse with more electric cars.
It started really well with good clear information, then the daft needless music started and that’s when i turned off.
Okay, thanks.
Piss off a Hummer driver, driving he electric equivalent of rolling coal? that is an appealing thought!
Ngl… I had to stop watching this video mid way because it just seems nit picking every faucet of EV charging. Here’s a better stance. “Be a decent human. And if not, oh well, get over it.”
People aren’t decent humans. Not sure if you’ve noticed.
@@EVPulseyeah I guess I needed to watch a 7 minute video to realize that
I have Zero 0 interest in a AV /Anxiety Vehicle.
We love ❤️ our new 2023 Prius. 55 MPG 😎
Good for you… The EV really don’t care whether you have an EV or not.. they are not for everyone and as you stated, definitely not for you….
That reminds me, I need to go to a Prius video and say how they don't interest me.
What a waste of time watching this. Was expecting something technical.
I have unplugged people multiple times. Couldn't careless about their car when they are taking my time and everyone downstream of me.
Fair. If it's a DCFC and they're still plugged in, they'll get hit with idle fees though, so it could cost them.
Were they at 100%? If not, might be a bit presumptive to interpret what their charging needs may have been (even if they're only creeping along in pulling KW).
@@ALMX5DPonly at 100% of course haha. I'm not an animal.
@@mrstinky2421 lol just checking. Yeah I'd probably do the same in those situations. :D
@@EVPulseMy understanding is the EA BARELY decided the were actually going to charge idle fees which apparently they weren’t before even tho it says that they will.
lot of these were posted by noshitsky
What a load of crap for view
I'd rather buy a horse and buggy than an EV.
What an incredible hassle; I'm SO glad I don't own an EV.
The video: “Don’t interfere with other people by blocking stations or meddling with their cars.”
Everyone else in the comments “This is all just ‘don’t be a jerk.’”
You: “What a hassle I could never do this.”
If you own an EV, then you'll know that every morning you wake up with 100% charge and you rarely have to deal with DC fast charging only when you take a long trip
And yet, here you are....rent free
Don't buy an EV......Do buy petrol or diesel.
Dont... go EV, its a very expensive short range super slow recharge invesment.
We'd have bought an EV, gladly, if it wasn't for the cost. Our EV options here all have a starting price of $60,000. So, we went with a PHEV that cost over $20,000 less. Charge at home exclusively and after 5,000+Km we have used less than 1.5 tanks of gas. If the cost for an EV ever matches what we paid for our PHEV we'll buy one.
Why would anyone buy a car tbat requires you watch videos like this just to be able to operate it. Cars are there o
To make life easier not harder.
Probably because we are still at the beginning of the EV era and not everybody know all from the get go. I saw my father fill his truck so when it was my turn it was easy, when the pay before filling has begin it has taken me a minute to figure how to pay to fill. EV are easy, its just something to learn,
People transitioning from horse drawn carriages to cars might have watched instructional silent films. Teenagers learning how to drive watch instructional videos _now_ so what's your point here 😂