Cons. wasnt nerfed in 2.2.0. For Mage there have been also other aoe dmg spells wich arent capped as well for example Flamestrike if i remmeber corectly
Thanks for the video! Wonderful resource. I jumped the gun and switched around 31 and found it to be very enjoyable, and only got better as I went. Only 41 now, but quickly gaining more. Long live the AOE Paladin!
Also, thank you for such a well developed and in depth guide for the paladin. I am definitely learning so much more in preparation for The Burning Crusade. p.s. 26 holy damage from Retribution Aura +15 from the set bonus +50% from talents = 60 damage as AOE on every mob
I skipped TBC but I want to be ready for WotLK. Therefore I´m using this guide right now to AOE level my paladin from 60 to 70 in full T3. It is absolutely a blast! Thanks a lot
Saved this to a playlist I have of AoE info, great video, would have liked it if you explained a bit more on the talents but it is pretty self explanatory, just a tiny bit frustrating for leveling since you don't know what to take next. Loved the video!
Nice guide! Liked it a lot! One thing that would have been helpful in the section of "where to farm at what lvl" some video material of how to make the pulls after showing each zone! other then that Thanks for the guide bud!
I'm checking out leveling as prot paladin with my friend playing resto druid and I love it. He just moonfires stuff and they walk into my consecrate in these areas and with his thorns I do even more damage. I just wish I went blacksmithing since the server I'm playing on only has high level shield spikes for 150 gold. Really thinking of dropping my enchanting even though it's at 150 just to grab that for gear and shield spikes, because that's so much damage I'm missing out on.
On the Libram I have to disagree. Do NOT go for either of these for AOE farming, but instead go for: Libram of the Eternal Rest (Rare: LvL68 - Sethek Halls - Darkweaver Syth) Equip: Increases the damage of your Consecration spell by up to 47. Since Consecration is unaffected by the AOE cap, this increases your damage ALOT.
Really liked this guide, been leveling my pally prot and just love the whole thorns aspect. Love it when I get druid healers just for thorns in dungeons.
Nice video, I'm making prot paladin alt for gold farming, heroics and 10 man's plus the occasional 25 man raid also. Really excited for tbc! I wanna level it now but I play horde haha
You're right! I dropped the ball on that. I think this is a solid level 70 version of the talents, it's got improved retribution aura and all the prot mitigation talents. Feel free to be flexible with some of the talent points as I would say it's not a hard "this is the best spec" type of build! tbc.wowhead.com/talent-calc/paladin/-05305033100001525215-052050003023
@@Toyhouze Just saying. Crusade is a terrible talent. 3 points for a measly 3% increase? Take a single one of those points into Avengers shield to make tanking dungeons much easier.
42-54 zulfarak gy, level every ~30-45 minutes, it will start hard but as you go up the levels you will start owning it 66-70 = BM beasts, this is super fast and not too hard you will also get tons of gold
One of the best videos I have seen about Pallys. Are you gonna make another one for the WOTLK Classic ?? or just an update level 70-80 (Gear, Specs, Leveling Spots)??
Thank you once again. I think that this will be useful for a stable exp income in addition to my dungeon reputation grinding strategy: I was just going to go to any place which I could find in Outland when not dungeon grinding (Have you heard of this strategy? Grind dungeons to get rep while skipping quests. This is to get the additional gold instead of exp reward at 70 to make getting epic flying faster), but with this, I should be able to cut my time and make it to the Nether Storm or Shadowmoon Valley and make 70 in an even shorter amount of time. Oh yeah that... a tip: Do EVERYTHING which you can to avoid doing any and all quests until level 70 as the exp will become extra gold by a significant amount; this will radically move you closer to that epic mount and shorten repeatable quests. But first, have fun! If you don't want to skip quests, then do so. I intend to do everything which I can to reach that epic flying faster, and this will provide a steady exp income while not in a dungeon. Anyway, THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOURSELF USEFUL AND EASING AT LEAST MY PALADIN BURDENS! Also, I would like to get your opinion on my build, @ legacy-wow dot com (trying to prevent this from being censored), in the URL after "tal=" in paladin talents, replace all those numbers with "0000000000000000000005025133503021022215010520530102000000000000" without quotes, would you tell my your opinion of this build?
Back in TBC I did every quest and I had enough gold by the time I was finished to buy epic flying. And I did them at the appropriate level and not at 70.
I've leveled several toons to 70 back in TBC, and they usually ding 70 sometime halfway through Blade's edge if you do appropriate dungeon groups for your level as well. Leaves you with all of Netherstorm and SMV to get quest gold, and trust me brother that is a LOT of quests. And if you're bringing up a fresh 60, then it's fine to do Hellfire and Zangarmarsh to get those outland greens. Player power goes up exponentially in like the first hour of questing in Hellfire, so you wouldn't want to make yourself miserable and just rely on dungeon drops. On the other hand, if you have a dedicated dungeon cleave group then that's also a good strat as you need to get the rep anyway, might as well do it while leveling.
@@PaleMist somebody else will have to chime in here but I certainly wouldn't try to pug my way to 70 unless you're tanking. If you've got a dedicated cleave group and a prot pally tank I think that could be really good.
Not sure if you are planning an Update foe this video, but since Conc is not affected by the AOE damage cap, the Libram off the 1st boss in Sethek Halls is Best, because Concencrate will be your Primary Damage dealer.
Secondly, Items like Cloak of Flames, Razor Gauntlets, essence of the Pure Flame, rely on you being Hit. If you are Level 70, AOE farming lower level content, you will not be getting hit often, Mobs will be Missing you, or you will Parry/Dodge/Block most of their attacks. It may be possible for a blocked hit to trigger the damage effect, but misses, dodges, and parries do not.
Thank you for the guide, what I think would be great as well, is a guide for the people who want to roll a pally when TBC launches, but the absolute fastest way to hit 70. Mage AoE is hit, but would dungeon boosting in RFC, SFK, and potentially *still faster* than questing in the open world? Because if you're going to boost, then you're going to want to be at the front of the levelling pack as quickly as possible. Let's see a dungeon boosting guide for pallies who want to get to 70 as quickly as possible and ideally avoid open-world questing unless absolutely necessary. On PvP servers it's going to be an absolute bloodbath with alliance wanting to gank horde pallies non-stop.
1.) Dungeon farming (not being boosted) will ALWAYS be a faster and more efficient approach to leveling from 1-60 since we’ll no longer need to worry about Azeroth reputations or gear 2.) Boosting will likely NOT be an extremely popular activity in the opening days of the expansion since most players will be concentrating on reaching level 70 and not spending their time boosting low level Blood Elves 3.) As I’m sure you’re aware now (seeing as your comment is a month old), both new races are available to players at the release of the Pre-Patch, allowing for everyone to have the opportunity to reach 60 before the Dark Portal opens
@@swiftjuice168 Yep my questions are now outdated. Blood Elves/Dranei are introduced in an pre-patch, making much of my questions 100% obsolete - and I'm super excited for that.
You only listed talents up to I think lvl 38, what about the talents up to 60? 70 ? ===> MAIN question regarding talents would be: "PARRY vs Improved Seal of the crusader" (in the ret tree)
i wished you shows us how the talent tree looked like built all the way to 60. u did until 40 something and i was left with about 15 talent point unsure of where to allocate them. non the less it was very insightful
just a note on the Thermaplugg's Central Core, the shield reflection sucks, i used it to tank SM dungeons from 32 till 36 and checked the dps meters to find it did 2% of my total damage, so i would advice replacing it with an actual defense shield or if you're rich/lucky get "The Green Tower" at 36.
Dude, I'm pretty sure Retribution Aura doesn't scale with Spellpower. Also, as others have pointed out, Consecration isn't hit by AoE cap. I enjoy your videos, but you're literally putting out wrong information, please research before putting out information - or don't mention stuff as facts if you actually don't know :). Besides that, another great and super informal video, thanks! 👍
I plan on going prot to help gear my ret spec, through gold farming and heroics. How good of an idea do you think this is? Or will this cost of respeccing + the time to collect good prot gear make this not worth it? Thanks, really enjoyed the content.
Thanks for posting the links to talent trees. I (as others have mentioned) would like to see what's recommended level by level after 34/35. Thanks for the great video!
Great vid man! Did you touch on priofessions at all, i could'nt seem to find it. You think its worth struggling to get Jewlcrafting and Enchanting up to make use of the spell power bonus or is that overkill?
Is this guide still valid as of 2022? I'm trying to get a Prot pally up asap and aoe leveling is my favorite thing to do. Thanks for the guide, have a great new year! :)
Which professions shold I take? If im starting from lvl 1 as a blood elf paladin, and i decide to level prot over ret, what professions are best? BS is best for Ret right? And Prot needs spellpower? So is it like Enchanting and Engineering? But then you have no gathering profession so its hard to make gold. What do you think?
Thank you kindly for the detailed video. I was hoping you could drop a response and let me know what UI add-on you are using and perhaps what else you run while soloing/raiding. I am a returning TBC player after around 6 years away and simply cannot remember what I had made use of previously or even if they are compatible with the TBC Classic version. Thanks so much for all the great info!
Hey very happy the video was helpful. I'm not sure what the addon is to be totally honest. I posted in the bottom of the video links to the youtube videos I grabbed clips from, not all of the clips are mine. :)
Very good guide but your 'list' of why starts and ends with 1 :) so main takeaway is for bis AOE boosting, however what about how coveted it is for raiding, heroics, pvp etc?
Ok Wow, that's one informative Video, great stuff. And some Perspektives i didn't even think about. The only thing I'm not really shure about is the Bis list and a few item choices because I don't know if 5 points firedamage is really worth it, missing out on a better cape with Stamina and Intellect or Spell damage like the Cloak of the Betrayed. That offers +12 Int/ Stamina and 23 Spell Damage + a Yellow socked. But anyway thanks for the Video
The Paladin King approves these messages. I put Fiery Blast (badlands enchant from a quest) on my trash blade in Classic. Was wondering if there was a better weapon for that.
Very in-depth explanations of everything - I loved it. I have one question though... What do you AoE farm at 70, that is not the roof of Black temple? I can imagine it being impossible to find a grind spot, since ALL videos points to this place - aaaand a whole lot of people are rerollong protlols. Is there an alternative farmspot worth it, out here?
Great question. I'd say scholomance is a top pick. Tons of great drops there worth gold. Dark runes, disenchanting for mana oils which will be used. Runecloth will still be in demand. Probably other high level vanilla dungeons like strath will be good too.
The two best professions for a Protection Paladin regardless of role/play-style would be: Enchanting: - Farming: We can disenchant loot that would otherwise be pointless to sell to vendors because of low sale-price - Max-level: We can enchant our own rings with +12 Spell Damage or +4 All Stats which provides a bit of a boost Engineering: - We can make high-stamina trinkets (+45), one of the best helmets for raiding (Tankatronic Goggles), Dynamite, Ammunition for all of your Hunter buddies, various miscellaneous things like fireworks, etc.
Engineering has the force reflective disc while you level and big stamina trinkets as well as just nice utility items. Enchanting is my top pick though since you'll probably make your pally your gold farming character - being able to DE the loot for extra profits and you get the enchanting only ring enchants AND blood elves get plus enchanting skill as a racial.
@@botched6518 To further cement this, you need to investigate what the other professions can provide you as a tank in terms of beneficial aspects: - Blacksmithing: There is only one item that is sought after by Protection Paladins (Boots of the Protector) that is Bind-on-Pickup. Any other item that we may be interested in are all Bind-on-Equip and we can just purchase them from the Auction House or random people selling in Trade Chat - Leatherworking: The main reason any player picks this profession up is for the Drums. However, Blizzard has already acknowledged issues surrounding them and may implement a change. We’re not completely sure if that’ll be a nerf or just a change - Jewelcrafting: This profession is actually held in high regard - it provides gems with more stamina (Generally +3 - +6 stamina) and allows for you to make a couple trinkets (Figurine - Dawnstone Crab / Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent) o In Phase 1, the epic +15 Stamina gems won’t likely be available to purchase, so the “Falling Star” (+18 Stamina, Blue Gem from JC) will provide a slight boost initially. However, the gem is unique, so only one can be equipped at any one time providing a bonus of +6 total stamina o “Figurine - Dawnstone Crab” increases defence rating by 32 and has an on-use effect to increase dodge rating by 125 for 20 seconds You won’t need the defence rating since you will already have 490 You’ll already be at the crush cap as well (102.4%) in the gear I’ll link below o “Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent” (+23 Intellect & +33 Stamina => 345 Mana & 330 Health) and has an on-use effect to increase spell damage by 150 for 20 seconds While nice to have, 345 mana won’t make-or-break you in terms of being able to use the appropriate spells at the right time The stamina is lower than that of the Goblin Rocket Launcher (+45 = 450 Health) If the spell damage were consistent, one could argue that this trinket would be worth a look, but unfortunately, it’s only on-use
@@thekingchem8800 I was hitting the spots he pointed out for like 1/2 of my level while doing some quests. The morlocks in swap of sorrows for example have 2 big quests associated with them. So 2 birds 1 stone. Also I farmed SM for the good pieces. Aoe pulling with mages using this build, the gnomergon shield with a mythril spike etc
@@1990exon what level are you? I wouldn't try to do this until lvl 30 or even 35 (you really want holy shield) Make sure your never getting hit in the back. Also using the right seals for when you need hp or mana is critical.
Was curious if you could list what consumables you were using whilst leveling? Because I'm trying to find the best to use to keep my dumbass alive. Just hit 35 on my Paladin and while my HP stays at a decent amount, after awhile my MP drains super quick due to not having Seal of Wisdom until 38. I found Oil of Immolation to be very effective, but it seems I might have to make them myself as there's hardly any on my server (and they're so OP for leveling at the moment).
Great guide! I was afraid I have to get the expensive Skullflame Shield. Figured out it wouldn't scale that well with sp anymore in Patch 2.4.3 (which is probably the state we would get).
@381 322 The Lifesteal portion of the shield scales at a 1:1 ratio with your spell damage. The AoE damage portion doesn’t scale at all with your spell damage. Overall, it is the best shield to farm/boost with. The only exception would be Force Reactive Disk because it would be guaranteed damage to all mobs on every block.
Why Draenai though? The +1% hit of Draenai is not as good as the human +5 Expertise. Draenai Priest is awesome, but Draenai Paladin is suboptimal unless its for the style.
@@Zwiebel4 The +1% Melee Hit Rating from being a Draenei is incredibly beneficial since our taunt relies on melee hit rating and there are countless situations where that can be vital. The Human's Expertise increase depends on how the Paladin is actually tanking (This is in reference to the people considering Blessings may still be an option for tanking)
Hey! @toyhouze What do you think about healing from items nerfs for Prot paladin? You think AOE grinding/boosting as paladin is going to be still a thing?
are the gear choices and specs still applicable if one wants to not aoe grind? I plan on AoEing in dungeons just gonna do questing instead of aoe grinding.
Yeah I'd say if you want to try it it's still worth it. I'd say if you want to farm with it maybe find a high population server so you can sell the stuff you farm. Good luck man!
Would the best class with you be a resto shaman or druid? Or maybe a frost mage? thanks - OR Warlock for hellfire aoe? Holy paladin for double cons plus heals?
If you just started classic last month should I invest in Demon Forged Breastplate, Cloak of the Flames now for future farming or save my resources for TBC?
I think those will still be good for pre patch but you might want to wait if you won't play or think pre patch boosting is worth the investment. I think once tbc hits, regular tanking gear will be better
It is exactly because that the mages will no longer be able to boost that the few protection paladins will be able to ask for whatever price they want and do as many boosts as they want being able to boost from Stockades up to Stratholme almost easily with the proper gear which is not even hard to get. I mean, you have to consider that the current Classic prices will be converted into the TBC prices so the paladins will be able and will ask for so much more gold for boosting. p.s. this kind of farm so to speak that is practically relative to the realm economy is absolutely amazing
What if I'm leveling as Prot. I heard they need spell power so enchanting and engineering for goblin rocket launcher and force reactive disc. But having 0 gathering professions is way tough on making money. What do you think? I have a lvl 60 rn with skinning/mining so I could technically use him for the mining and go ench/eng instead of mining/eng that I was originally thinking of. Should I just run Ret until 34 cause prot sucks until then??
Hey mate! Awesome video! I have a question here - I'm planning to lvl a blacksmithing with my pala and make a prot on 70 lvl. What spec of weaponsmith I should select? Is that swordsmith?
I don't think there's anything crazy good for prot there. Blacksmithing is a great choice though for paladin. If you ever decide to go ret Stormherald is easily BiS. Lionheart Executioner for PvE though. Lots of Blacksmithing BoP armor though which is good for tanking. Hope that helps and glad you liked the video!
@@Toyhouze Blacksmithing as their own profession is useless to Protection Paladins. Every item that a Paladin may wish to equip is BoE - sellable on the AH or tradeable between players with the exception of “Boots of the Protector.” This pattern drops from SSC which would lead me to believe you’re already raiding, and it may not be a large enough upgrade to pick Blacksmithing solely for that one item. The two best professions for Protection Paladins would be Enchanting (Ring enchants) and Engineering (Goggles, Dynamite, Trinkets, etc.)
@@swiftjuice168 but should i pick both engineering and enchanting or one and mining, i dont know if i can afford buying all materials for engin and ench. Its for my second character- for my first one i picked skinning and leatherworking so i have no idea
@@hmmmaniki1386 I can understand where you're coming from with this, but there are some things to keep in mind: 1.) As a Protection Paladin, gold won't be a big enough concern to worry about gathering professions since our gold per hour is the highest compared to other classes 2.) The main issue with relying on mining for your own materials is that they are going to be heavily contested by both factions, bots and players alike. You may spend an hour mining veins and only come up with a few materials while you could have spent the hour farming and making enough gold to buy several materials 3.) Technically, Enchanting can be leveled up for no cost whatsoever. Theoretically speaking, all you need to do is disenchant the items you come across and use those materials. You won't get skill increases past 50-70 (I can't remember the exact skill level) but you can use the materials gained to increase your skill level
uther's strength is actualy really nice for lower level dungeons like SM or stocks, for anyone who's wondering.. I use it in classic and have really solid uptime in stocks with it
@@1337139 Uther’s Strength provides a shield worth about 200-250 damage - these amounts will appeal to a lower-level Paladin (referencing your point of Classic) because you’re not as powerful as a level 70 Paladin (less Health and you’ll be taking more damage per hit) The other issue is that it only has a 2% chance to proc - so, with 100 attacks, you may see it proc twice. It’s interesting you say that Force of Will is better since it has only a 1% chance to proc and only reduces physical damage taken by 25 for 10 seconds, effectively reducing 250 physical damage. Realistically speaking, Uther’s Strength is superior in terms of farming/boosting. However, a level 70 Paladin should NOT use either of these if it means sacrificing level 70 trinkets (Goblin Rocket Launcher, Figurine of the Colossus, etc.)
@@swiftjuice168 I don't disagree with anything you said.. these lower lvl trinkets dont hold a candle to the toys you get in TBC I was just sharing my experience leveling in classic as aoe prot pala + boosting with gear thats from 5 mans or 20 mans cause I dont raid on my alts, I cant wait to get my hands on some of those juicy trinkets+shields in tbc
@@1337139 For a Paladin in Classic WoW, we’d be looking more at trinkets like “Essence of Eranikus,” “Talisman of Arathor,” “Ramstein's Lightning Bolts,” and the list can go on. The trinkets you linked aren’t necessarily bad or anything, but there are certainly better ones for farming/boosting easily obtainable outside of raiding.
@@swiftjuice168 Uthers is garbage for 1 simple reason. When you are shielded you won't proc on hit effects. No DFB, no FoW, no SFS etc. Fully absorbed attacks don't proc on hit effects. FoW is pretty good even though there are DR with Sanc. In SM/Stocks atm it FOW will reduce your damage taken by about 50% while its up and its up a lot. No CD. Fow or a high block chance are the only ways to do a stocks 1 pull in under 4 minutes.
Great video! I have 1 question concerning the skullflame shield. Currently is its lifesteal proportional with one's spell damage? I read it was nerfed at some point down to a fixed amount? and when is that happening? I m thinking about buying it but i don't want to spend hundreds of gold for it to be nerfed in a couple months. Also, I want to main retribution in tbc so its just to test things and have fun. thanks :)
@@Toyhouze I asked someone in my server and he said that it scales with your SP . So I went ahead and bought one for 300g. Lowest price I ve seen. Couple hours later one was up for 450. Not bad 😁
Should do this for a fresh boosted paladin. I decided to give TBC a try since I got a gift card for my paladin but I didn't want to start allllll over I did that launch back in the day lol. Not sure if the gear you start with is good enough to start grinding and I don't have the gold for these items.
I boosted a pally too! What I'm doing is ret until I get some better gear from those Hellfire Peninsula quests - the gear is a huge upgrade, then once I get Petrified Lichen Guard switch over to prot and start the AOE farm. Hope that helps :)
Okay so love the guide but I’m definitely new to this kinda leveling. Going into TBC do you really just farm mobs and not focus on questing? Throw a dungeon or two in there?
I'm seeing your comment 3 months too late, but typically there's a learning curve to these pulls, and once you have it down the experience you gain from making these big pulls outweighs the experience you get from questing. I leveled a mage in Classic out of boredom, and the second you get the solo ZF farm down as a mage, you're getting absolutely insane amounts of experience. The main pull went from giving me about 60% of a level, to giving me 30% of a level and was good for nearly 10 levels. Then from 53-60 I just aoe farmed shatterspear village, and was probably getting 10% of a level every 5 minutes or so. In terms of speed, these pulls are the way to go 100% because a quest requires you to pick it up, go and kill X amount of mobs or collect X amount of items from the mobs, then go drop it off and the time to and fro is essentially wasted time. I just hit level 60 on my Paladin, and I honestly wish I found this guide way sooner, because this manner of pulling far outweighs the speed of even Retribution spec. Retribution could only handle maybe 3 mobs at or around your own level, but with this build, you're essentially aoe pulling like a mage.
i found that taking seal of command in the ret tree is well worth it... hitting 3 mobs with 1 swing is worth the talent point losing the point in imp ret aura.
I thought concentration was not one of the spells, in the 2.2 patch notes it does not have the AoE change listed next to it
Cons. wasnt nerfed in 2.2.0.
For Mage there have been also other aoe dmg spells wich arent capped as well for example Flamestrike if i remmeber corectly
@@gerrylee8304 thanks for the correction, you're right about consecration and flamestrike.
@@noble61483 can u send the link plz ?
@@noble61483 also scholo and strat are probably all great.
You mean consecration?
I’m now approaching 70 and used this guide as a reference throughout the journey. Great guide, must have watched it like 10 times in bits and pieces.
That is so awesome to hear. Thank you. Inspiring me to make more :)
I thought this comment was saying that they were almost 70 yrs old irl
Thanks for the video! Wonderful resource. I jumped the gun and switched around 31 and found it to be very enjoyable, and only got better as I went. Only 41 now, but quickly gaining more. Long live the AOE Paladin!
Did this guide from lvl 32-58 and im now entering the outlands, def a very useful guide! Thx alot and keep the guides comming!
U done it without any questing ? Really ?
In what time roughly?
@@angelbozhilov3220 I would wager probably 8-10 days played.
Also, thank you for such a well developed and in depth guide for the paladin. I am definitely learning so much more in preparation for The Burning Crusade. p.s. 26 holy damage from Retribution Aura +15 from the set bonus +50% from talents = 60 damage as AOE on every mob
Them maths.. they don't add up
@@joshuatucker2521 actually it does add up...
One of the best paladin guides out there, thank you for this Toyhouze!
Wow, thanks!
I skipped TBC but I want to be ready for WotLK.
Therefore I´m using this guide right now to AOE level my paladin from 60 to 70 in full T3.
It is absolutely a blast!
Thanks a lot
Super solid guide ! Most in depth guide ive seen yet . It’s got me convinced to level a Paladin for sure
Glad I could help!
Saved this to a playlist I have of AoE info, great video, would have liked it if you explained a bit more on the talents but it is pretty self explanatory, just a tiny bit frustrating for leveling since you don't know what to take next. Loved the video!
Nice guide! Liked it a lot! One thing that would have been helpful in the section of "where to farm at what lvl" some video material of how to make the pulls after showing each zone! other then that Thanks for the guide bud!
Thank you for the amazing tutorial. Can't wait to try out the prot paladin for the first time in TBC.
I'm checking out leveling as prot paladin with my friend playing resto druid and I love it. He just moonfires stuff and they walk into my consecrate in these areas and with his thorns I do even more damage. I just wish I went blacksmithing since the server I'm playing on only has high level shield spikes for 150 gold. Really thinking of dropping my enchanting even though it's at 150 just to grab that for gear and shield spikes, because that's so much damage I'm missing out on.
On the Libram I have to disagree.
Do NOT go for either of these for AOE farming, but instead go for:
Libram of the Eternal Rest (Rare: LvL68 - Sethek Halls - Darkweaver Syth)
Equip: Increases the damage of your Consecration spell by up to 47.
Since Consecration is unaffected by the AOE cap, this increases your damage ALOT.
Agreed!
Gave me all the info I was looking for and more. Extremely well done, thanks for all the help!
Thank you for the compliment!
Amazing video, gives basicly all the info i need to start playing this in TBC with 0 knowledge beforehand. Subbed :)
Glad it was helpful! :)
Really liked this guide, been leveling my pally prot and just love the whole thorns aspect. Love it when I get druid healers just for thorns in dungeons.
Levelling my first Paladin in TBC and this guide was amazing, thank you.
@@parkerfrode5101 really?
@@parkerfrode5101 Can you recommend another video or guide? Im 64 prot pala atm
Great vid. I had an AOE paladin in BC. Wasn’t going to play classic BC, but now I think I might just go for it lol
Have fun!
Thanks for the amazing work. Thats really a nice and helpful guide for aoe grind and boost.
Cant wait for TBC classic!
Hype
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
Nice video, I'm making prot paladin alt for gold farming, heroics and 10 man's plus the occasional 25 man raid also. Really excited for tbc! I wanna level it now but I play horde haha
Thank you, I know the feeling!
did i miss it or did you just not add in the bit where you go over the level 70 version of talents. Last i saw you stopped at 40, holy shield
yup, pls give us an update! :)
You're right! I dropped the ball on that. I think this is a solid level 70 version of the talents, it's got improved retribution aura and all the prot mitigation talents. Feel free to be flexible with some of the talent points as I would say it's not a hard "this is the best spec" type of build! tbc.wowhead.com/talent-calc/paladin/-05305033100001525215-052050003023
@@Toyhouze Just saying. Crusade is a terrible talent. 3 points for a measly 3% increase? Take a single one of those points into Avengers shield to make tanking dungeons much easier.
@@maglen69 this is more for AOE farming moreso than tanking for a group. I agree. Avenger's shield is better for pulling as a tank than 3% damage.
42-54 zulfarak gy, level every ~30-45 minutes, it will start hard but as you go up the levels you will start owning it
66-70 = BM beasts, this is super fast and not too hard you will also get tons of gold
Where are those BM beasts??
@@luiscarlotriggiano7317 I believe BM = Black Morass.
One of the best videos I have seen about Pallys. Are you gonna make another one for the WOTLK Classic ?? or just an update level 70-80 (Gear, Specs, Leveling Spots)??
Thank you once again. I think that this will be useful for a stable exp income in addition to my dungeon reputation grinding strategy: I was just going to go to any place which I could find in Outland when not dungeon grinding (Have you heard of this strategy? Grind dungeons to get rep while skipping quests. This is to get the additional gold instead of exp reward at 70 to make getting epic flying faster), but with this, I should be able to cut my time and make it to the Nether Storm or Shadowmoon Valley and make 70 in an even shorter amount of time.
Oh yeah that... a tip: Do EVERYTHING which you can to avoid doing any and all quests until level 70 as the exp will become extra gold by a significant amount; this will radically move you closer to that epic mount and shorten repeatable quests. But first, have fun! If you don't want to skip quests, then do so. I intend to do everything which I can to reach that epic flying faster, and this will provide a steady exp income while not in a dungeon.
Anyway, THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOURSELF USEFUL AND EASING AT LEAST MY PALADIN BURDENS!
Also, I would like to get your opinion on my build, @ legacy-wow dot com (trying to prevent this from being censored), in the URL after "tal=" in paladin talents, replace all those numbers with "0000000000000000000005025133503021022215010520530102000000000000" without quotes, would you tell my your opinion of this build?
Back in TBC I did every quest and I had enough gold by the time I was finished to buy epic flying. And I did them at the appropriate level and not at 70.
@@robertp457 Really? Do tell.
I've leveled several toons to 70 back in TBC, and they usually ding 70 sometime halfway through Blade's edge if you do appropriate dungeon groups for your level as well. Leaves you with all of Netherstorm and SMV to get quest gold, and trust me brother that is a LOT of quests. And if you're bringing up a fresh 60, then it's fine to do Hellfire and Zangarmarsh to get those outland greens. Player power goes up exponentially in like the first hour of questing in Hellfire, so you wouldn't want to make yourself miserable and just rely on dungeon drops. On the other hand, if you have a dedicated dungeon cleave group then that's also a good strat as you need to get the rep anyway, might as well do it while leveling.
@@57precision Question: How long would leveling through Outland with only dungeons to get to 70 take?
@@PaleMist somebody else will have to chime in here but I certainly wouldn't try to pug my way to 70 unless you're tanking. If you've got a dedicated cleave group and a prot pally tank I think that could be really good.
Can't wait for the Sword of Almond!
What sword?
@@mikebeje6650 sword of omen. I was saying it like Amen, or even... Almond.
Lmao
Not sure if you are planning an Update foe this video, but since Conc is not affected by the AOE damage cap, the Libram off the 1st boss in Sethek Halls is Best, because Concencrate will be your Primary Damage dealer.
Secondly, Items like Cloak of Flames, Razor Gauntlets, essence of the Pure Flame, rely on you being Hit. If you are Level 70, AOE farming lower level content, you will not be getting hit often, Mobs will be Missing you, or you will Parry/Dodge/Block most of their attacks. It may be possible for a blocked hit to trigger the damage effect, but misses, dodges, and parries do not.
100% agree with everything, thank you for posting!
Thank you for the guide, what I think would be great as well, is a guide for the people who want to roll a pally when TBC launches, but the absolute fastest way to hit 70. Mage AoE is hit, but would dungeon boosting in RFC, SFK, and potentially *still faster* than questing in the open world? Because if you're going to boost, then you're going to want to be at the front of the levelling pack as quickly as possible.
Let's see a dungeon boosting guide for pallies who want to get to 70 as quickly as possible and ideally avoid open-world questing unless absolutely necessary. On PvP servers it's going to be an absolute bloodbath with alliance wanting to gank horde pallies non-stop.
1.) Dungeon farming (not being boosted) will ALWAYS be a faster and more efficient approach to leveling from 1-60 since we’ll no longer need to worry about Azeroth reputations or gear
2.) Boosting will likely NOT be an extremely popular activity in the opening days of the expansion since most players will be concentrating on reaching level 70 and not spending their time boosting low level Blood Elves
3.) As I’m sure you’re aware now (seeing as your comment is a month old), both new races are available to players at the release of the Pre-Patch, allowing for everyone to have the opportunity to reach 60 before the Dark Portal opens
@@swiftjuice168 Yep my questions are now outdated. Blood Elves/Dranei are introduced in an pre-patch, making much of my questions 100% obsolete - and I'm super excited for that.
Great guide, though id recommend getting absorption to chest and not stats. Its much better.
You only listed talents up to I think lvl 38, what about the talents up to 60? 70 ?
===> MAIN question regarding talents would be: "PARRY vs Improved Seal of the crusader" (in the ret tree)
Hey sorry about that, I'm dropping a detailed follow up video tomorrow that will explain in detail!
If you could post up a full talent page that would be brilliant :) Great video, very insightful, much enjoy.
Thanks for the great guide, regarding aoe tanking dungeons, which levels do you aim for which dungeons?
i wished you shows us how the talent tree looked like built all the way to 60. u did until 40 something and i was left with about 15 talent point unsure of where to allocate them. non the less it was very insightful
Sorry man, it should be in the description or comments
Any tips for starting on Fresh servers as prot aoe? What consumes to use while lvling? Mana oil?
just a note on the Thermaplugg's Central Core, the shield reflection sucks, i used it to tank SM dungeons from 32 till 36 and checked the dps meters to find it did 2% of my total damage, so i would advice replacing it with an actual defense shield or if you're rich/lucky get "The Green Tower" at 36.
Dude, I'm pretty sure Retribution Aura doesn't scale with Spellpower. Also, as others have pointed out, Consecration isn't hit by AoE cap. I enjoy your videos, but you're literally putting out wrong information, please research before putting out information - or don't mention stuff as facts if you actually don't know :).
Besides that, another great and super informal video, thanks! 👍
Correct - Retribution does NOT scale with spell damage.
Awesome vid. Straight to the point and great info. Thanks!
Super glad you found it useful!
Great guide. I didn't know anything about Paladins but now I'm an expert. I'm hoping to run a Pally alt. 😁
Glad I could help!
I plan on going prot to help gear my ret spec, through gold farming and heroics. How good of an idea do you think this is? Or will this cost of respeccing + the time to collect good prot gear make this not worth it? Thanks, really enjoyed the content.
Thanks for posting the links to talent trees. I (as others have mentioned) would like to see what's recommended level by level after 34/35. Thanks for the great video!
Great vid man! Did you touch on priofessions at all, i could'nt seem to find it. You think its worth struggling to get Jewlcrafting and Enchanting up to make use of the spell power bonus or is that overkill?
you rly have to change that section with the Consecration Cap, because there is non, otherwise very nice video :)
Nice content man, keep it up! TBC Classic will be awesome for sure
Thanks man, will do!
Is this guide still valid as of 2022? I'm trying to get a Prot pally up asap and aoe leveling is my favorite thing to do. Thanks for the guide, have a great new year! :)
Which professions shold I take? If im starting from lvl 1 as a blood elf paladin, and i decide to level prot over ret, what professions are best? BS is best for Ret right? And Prot needs spellpower? So is it like Enchanting and Engineering? But then you have no gathering profession so its hard to make gold. What do you think?
Thank you kindly for the detailed video. I was hoping you could drop a response and let me know what UI add-on you are using and perhaps what else you run while soloing/raiding. I am a returning TBC player after around 6 years away and simply cannot remember what I had made use of previously or even if they are compatible with the TBC Classic version. Thanks so much for all the great info!
Hey very happy the video was helpful. I'm not sure what the addon is to be totally honest. I posted in the bottom of the video links to the youtube videos I grabbed clips from, not all of the clips are mine. :)
I can tell you "Recount" was used to look at damage sources.
Thanks for more TBC content! Can’t wait!
You bet!
Just started my pally to get ready for Wotlk! Did pally aoe get nerfed even more since this video? Or can I still follow this guide?
Just curious, where do you put points past lvl 40? Do you just complete the basic prot pally build or do you move into the ret tree more?
Stockade Pauldrons at lvl 50 are awesome as well with the 15 defense
Very good guide but your 'list' of why starts and ends with 1 :) so main takeaway is for bis AOE boosting, however what about how coveted it is for raiding, heroics, pvp etc?
Good point!
Ok Wow, that's one informative Video, great stuff. And some Perspektives i didn't even think about. The only thing I'm not really shure about is the Bis list and a few item choices because I don't know if 5 points firedamage is really worth it, missing out on a better cape with Stamina and Intellect or Spell damage like the Cloak of the Betrayed. That offers +12 Int/ Stamina and 23 Spell Damage + a Yellow socked.
But anyway thanks for the Video
Agreed the bis is off a bit. Glad you enjoyed it thanks man
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I put Fiery Blast (badlands enchant from a quest) on my trash blade in Classic. Was wondering if there was a better weapon for that.
Really good guide. Exactly what I was looking for... you earned a sub and a like!
Thank you for this video I’m a little late to the game but I foresee this helping me out. What combat text addon are you using?
Very in-depth explanations of everything - I loved it.
I have one question though... What do you AoE farm at 70, that is not the roof of Black temple? I can imagine it being impossible to find a grind spot, since ALL videos points to this place - aaaand a whole lot of people are rerollong protlols. Is there an alternative farmspot worth it, out here?
Great question. I'd say scholomance is a top pick. Tons of great drops there worth gold. Dark runes, disenchanting for mana oils which will be used. Runecloth will still be in demand. Probably other high level vanilla dungeons like strath will be good too.
Great guide! I learned a lot. I may have missed this but what professions would you suggest for the AOE pally?
The two best professions for a Protection Paladin regardless of role/play-style would be:
Enchanting:
- Farming: We can disenchant loot that would otherwise be pointless to sell to vendors because of low sale-price
- Max-level: We can enchant our own rings with +12 Spell Damage or +4 All Stats which provides a bit of a boost
Engineering:
- We can make high-stamina trinkets (+45), one of the best helmets for raiding (Tankatronic Goggles), Dynamite, Ammunition for all of your Hunter buddies, various miscellaneous things like fireworks, etc.
Engineering has the force reflective disc while you level and big stamina trinkets as well as just nice utility items. Enchanting is my top pick though since you'll probably make your pally your gold farming character - being able to DE the loot for extra profits and you get the enchanting only ring enchants AND blood elves get plus enchanting skill as a racial.
@@Toyhouze Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate it. That makes perfect sense!
@@swiftjuice168 Thanks for the breakdown! I have some decisions to make.
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To further cement this, you need to investigate what the other professions can provide you as a tank in terms of beneficial aspects:
- Blacksmithing: There is only one item that is sought after by Protection Paladins (Boots of the Protector) that is Bind-on-Pickup. Any other item that we may be interested in are all Bind-on-Equip and we can just purchase them from the Auction House or random people selling in Trade Chat
- Leatherworking: The main reason any player picks this profession up is for the Drums. However, Blizzard has already acknowledged issues surrounding them and may implement a change. We’re not completely sure if that’ll be a nerf or just a change
- Jewelcrafting: This profession is actually held in high regard - it provides gems with more stamina (Generally +3 - +6 stamina) and allows for you to make a couple trinkets (Figurine - Dawnstone Crab / Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent)
o In Phase 1, the epic +15 Stamina gems won’t likely be available to purchase, so the “Falling Star” (+18 Stamina, Blue Gem from JC) will provide a slight boost initially. However, the gem is unique, so only one can be equipped at any one time providing a bonus of +6 total stamina
o “Figurine - Dawnstone Crab” increases defence rating by 32 and has an on-use effect to increase dodge rating by 125 for 20 seconds
You won’t need the defence rating since you will already have 490
You’ll already be at the crush cap as well (102.4%) in the gear I’ll link below
o “Figurine - Living Ruby Serpent” (+23 Intellect & +33 Stamina => 345 Mana & 330 Health) and has an on-use effect to increase spell damage by 150 for 20 seconds
While nice to have, 345 mana won’t make-or-break you in terms of being able to use the appropriate spells at the right time
The stamina is lower than that of the Goblin Rocket Launcher (+45 = 450 Health)
If the spell damage were consistent, one could argue that this trinket would be worth a look, but unfortunately, it’s only on-use
Love your channel. Make me excited to play a paladin.
What is the full lvl 60 talent build you recommend?
This guy has been very helpful I am level 31 and have kind of started to aoe grind Quest mobs feels like at 34 it would be very simple
I'm 41 a day later lol. Ya prot paladin is a little broken. People watch me pull 10 mobs and just say "WTF?" When I dont die
@@deadmanfred where were you grinding?
@@thekingchem8800 I was hitting the spots he pointed out for like 1/2 of my level while doing some quests. The morlocks in swap of sorrows for example have 2 big quests associated with them. So 2 birds 1 stone.
Also I farmed SM for the good pieces. Aoe pulling with mages using this build, the gnomergon shield with a mythril spike etc
I dont get how you dont die..i pull 4 mobs my level and get stomped. And i got a lot of AH gear and dungeon blues. No idea what im doing.
@@1990exon what level are you? I wouldn't try to do this until lvl 30 or even 35 (you really want holy shield) Make sure your never getting hit in the back. Also using the right seals for when you need hp or mana is critical.
Learned a lot, this coming from a paladin enthusiast. Ty
Awesome to hear
Was curious if you could list what consumables you were using whilst leveling? Because I'm trying to find the best to use to keep my dumbass alive. Just hit 35 on my Paladin and while my HP stays at a decent amount, after awhile my MP drains super quick due to not having Seal of Wisdom until 38. I found Oil of Immolation to be very effective, but it seems I might have to make them myself as there's hardly any on my server (and they're so OP for leveling at the moment).
Great guide! I was afraid I have to get the expensive Skullflame Shield. Figured out it wouldn't scale that well with sp anymore in Patch 2.4.3 (which is probably the state we would get).
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The Lifesteal portion of the shield scales at a 1:1 ratio with your spell damage. The AoE damage portion doesn’t scale at all with your spell damage.
Overall, it is the best shield to farm/boost with. The only exception would be Force Reactive Disk because it would be guaranteed damage to all mobs on every block.
Man I can’t wait for TBC! thanks for this, I’m planning on going tank paladin but I’m stuck between Belf or Draenei
My pleasure! I'm in the same situation lol
Why Draenai though? The +1% hit of Draenai is not as good as the human +5 Expertise.
Draenai Priest is awesome, but Draenai Paladin is suboptimal unless its for the style.
@@Zwiebel4 i like how they look to be honest
@@Shockingbeard nothing wrong with that.
@@Zwiebel4
The +1% Melee Hit Rating from being a Draenei is incredibly beneficial since our taunt relies on melee hit rating and there are countless situations where that can be vital.
The Human's Expertise increase depends on how the Paladin is actually tanking (This is in reference to the people considering Blessings may still be an option for tanking)
Hey! @toyhouze
What do you think about healing from items nerfs for Prot paladin?
You think AOE grinding/boosting as paladin is going to be still a thing?
congratz for this perfect guide
are the gear choices and specs still applicable if one wants to not aoe grind? I plan on AoEing in dungeons just gonna do questing instead of aoe grinding.
Great guide, thanks
@Toyhouze is it still worth leveling for the first time in TBC especially with all the server chnGes. Is aoe grinding still worth it
Yeah I'd say if you want to try it it's still worth it. I'd say if you want to farm with it maybe find a high population server so you can sell the stuff you farm. Good luck man!
Would the best class with you be a resto shaman or druid? Or maybe a frost mage? thanks - OR Warlock for hellfire aoe? Holy paladin for double cons plus heals?
I'd say mage if you're doing AOE. The mage can flamestrike which isn't affected by the AOE nerf.
somehow you didnt' finished the talent spec progression
Ye thats the most important lol
@@Sevisija go under More info there allmost at the start you finde 2 links to Final specs 1 whit Ret aura and 1 whit sanc aura :-)
If you just started classic last month should I invest in Demon Forged Breastplate, Cloak of the Flames now for future farming or save my resources for TBC?
I think those will still be good for pre patch but you might want to wait if you won't play or think pre patch boosting is worth the investment. I think once tbc hits, regular tanking gear will be better
Awesome stuff man perfect video! Helped me out a lot
perhaps a bit late, but do you guys have a good pawn profile to help a beginner with what items are an upgrade.
Amazing video mate
Thanks a lot!
whats the full talent build onwards from 35
Yeah he missed that
It is exactly because that the mages will no longer be able to boost that the few protection paladins will be able to ask for whatever price they want and do as many boosts as they want being able to boost from Stockades up to Stratholme almost easily with the proper gear which is not even hard to get. I mean, you have to consider that the current Classic prices will be converted into the TBC prices so the paladins will be able and will ask for so much more gold for boosting. p.s. this kind of farm so to speak that is practically relative to the realm economy is absolutely amazing
Thanks! I was wanting a reason to see more boosting advertisments in trade chat and LFG! Thanks for making the game better! Wow! Thanks! Wow!
Thanks for this guide... help me a lot!!
Glad it was helpful!
33:52 one thing I found is that you can cleanse off the inkspewer's hit chance reduction. At 42 you can cleanse magic effects and it's a magic effect.
Ahh great find! Very nice!
Consecration isn't affected by aoe dmg cap. Also you can just say "best" when you are talking about a class, BiS supposes there is a slot...
imagine being that naggy
best professions? like enchanting to DE and ring enchants, or JC for better gems, engineering for bombs?
Thanks for the Guide!
You bet!
great vid, very very informative. i appreciate your cadence!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Hello I just found your prot paladin guide do you plan on making a new one for WOTLK from 1-80 at all I think it would help a lot of people
Is it worth it using this guide if I am questing instead of grinding specific mobs ?
Is it any good for tanking instances or is it pure aoe farming?
Much more fun than questing! And with midsummer fest you kill them so fast!
What if I'm leveling as Prot. I heard they need spell power so enchanting and engineering for goblin rocket launcher and force reactive disc. But having 0 gathering professions is way tough on making money. What do you think? I have a lvl 60 rn with skinning/mining so I could technically use him for the mining and go ench/eng instead of mining/eng that I was originally thinking of. Should I just run Ret until 34 cause prot sucks until then??
Awesome video brother. Awesome.
Thank you so much man
very nice guide ! well done :)
Hey mate! Awesome video!
I have a question here - I'm planning to lvl a blacksmithing with my pala and make a prot on 70 lvl. What spec of weaponsmith I should select? Is that swordsmith?
I don't think there's anything crazy good for prot there. Blacksmithing is a great choice though for paladin. If you ever decide to go ret Stormherald is easily BiS. Lionheart Executioner for PvE though. Lots of Blacksmithing BoP armor though which is good for tanking. Hope that helps and glad you liked the video!
@@Toyhouze Blacksmithing as their own profession is useless to Protection Paladins. Every item that a Paladin may wish to equip is BoE - sellable on the AH or tradeable between players with the exception of “Boots of the Protector.” This pattern drops from SSC which would lead me to believe you’re already raiding, and it may not be a large enough upgrade to pick Blacksmithing solely for that one item.
The two best professions for Protection Paladins would be Enchanting (Ring enchants) and Engineering (Goggles, Dynamite, Trinkets, etc.)
@@swiftjuice168 well said I agree
@@swiftjuice168 but should i pick both engineering and enchanting or one and mining, i dont know if i can afford buying all materials for engin and ench. Its for my second character- for my first one i picked skinning and leatherworking so i have no idea
@@hmmmaniki1386
I can understand where you're coming from with this, but there are some things to keep in mind:
1.) As a Protection Paladin, gold won't be a big enough concern to worry about gathering professions since our gold per hour is the highest compared to other classes
2.) The main issue with relying on mining for your own materials is that they are going to be heavily contested by both factions, bots and players alike. You may spend an hour mining veins and only come up with a few materials while you could have spent the hour farming and making enough gold to buy several materials
3.) Technically, Enchanting can be leveled up for no cost whatsoever. Theoretically speaking, all you need to do is disenchant the items you come across and use those materials. You won't get skill increases past 50-70 (I can't remember the exact skill level) but you can use the materials gained to increase your skill level
uther's strength is actualy really nice for lower level dungeons like SM or stocks, for anyone who's wondering.. I use it in classic and have really solid uptime in stocks with it
force of will is better tho if you have it :)
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Uther’s Strength provides a shield worth about 200-250 damage - these amounts will appeal to a lower-level Paladin (referencing your point of Classic) because you’re not as powerful as a level 70 Paladin (less Health and you’ll be taking more damage per hit) The other issue is that it only has a 2% chance to proc - so, with 100 attacks, you may see it proc twice.
It’s interesting you say that Force of Will is better since it has only a 1% chance to proc and only reduces physical damage taken by 25 for 10 seconds, effectively reducing 250 physical damage.
Realistically speaking, Uther’s Strength is superior in terms of farming/boosting. However, a level 70 Paladin should NOT use either of these if it means sacrificing level 70 trinkets (Goblin Rocket Launcher, Figurine of the Colossus, etc.)
@@swiftjuice168 I don't disagree with anything you said.. these lower lvl trinkets dont hold a candle to the toys you get in TBC I was just sharing my experience leveling in classic as aoe prot pala + boosting with gear thats from 5 mans or 20 mans cause I dont raid on my alts, I cant wait to get my hands on some of those juicy trinkets+shields in tbc
@@1337139
For a Paladin in Classic WoW, we’d be looking more at trinkets like “Essence of Eranikus,” “Talisman of Arathor,” “Ramstein's Lightning Bolts,” and the list can go on.
The trinkets you linked aren’t necessarily bad or anything, but there are certainly better ones for farming/boosting easily obtainable outside of raiding.
@@swiftjuice168 Uthers is garbage for 1 simple reason. When you are shielded you won't proc on hit effects. No DFB, no FoW, no SFS etc. Fully absorbed attacks don't proc on hit effects. FoW is pretty good even though there are DR with Sanc. In SM/Stocks atm it FOW will reduce your damage taken by about 50% while its up and its up a lot. No CD. Fow or a high block chance are the only ways to do a stocks 1 pull in under 4 minutes.
How hard will it be to
find groups to run dungeons for the leveling gear?
I'm a big time solo player lol
waht gear to pick at level 35, should I get str + stam? or str + int? all videos only show lvl 60+ gear !
Great video! I have 1 question concerning the skullflame shield. Currently is its lifesteal proportional with one's spell damage? I read it was nerfed at some point down to a fixed amount? and when is that happening? I m thinking about buying it but i don't want to spend hundreds of gold for it to be nerfed in a couple months. Also, I want to main retribution in tbc so its just to test things and have fun. thanks :)
Not sure, I'll have to investigate. It would appear to be a backend change because the item looks exactly the same stat wise in tbc
@@Toyhouze I asked someone in my server and he said that it scales with your SP . So I went ahead and bought one for 300g. Lowest price I ve seen. Couple hours later one was up for 450. Not bad 😁
@@Kortan4
It is true that Skullflame scales with Spell Damage in TBC.
Should do this for a fresh boosted paladin. I decided to give TBC a try since I got a gift card for my paladin but I didn't want to start allllll over I did that launch back in the day lol. Not sure if the gear you start with is good enough to start grinding and I don't have the gold for these items.
I boosted a pally too! What I'm doing is ret until I get some better gear from those Hellfire Peninsula quests - the gear is a huge upgrade, then once I get Petrified Lichen Guard switch over to prot and start the AOE farm. Hope that helps :)
@@Toyhouze I tried doing this with boosted gear and it was horrible lol I had to spend gold to respect.
So what weapon enchantment would you recommend for Horde? unless I'm mistaken, fiery blaze is alliance only.
Some form of spell damage enchant I think is actually BiS!
Okay so love the guide but I’m definitely new to this kinda leveling. Going into TBC do you really just farm mobs and not focus on questing? Throw a dungeon or two in there?
I'm seeing your comment 3 months too late, but typically there's a learning curve to these pulls, and once you have it down the experience you gain from making these big pulls outweighs the experience you get from questing.
I leveled a mage in Classic out of boredom, and the second you get the solo ZF farm down as a mage, you're getting absolutely insane amounts of experience. The main pull went from giving me about 60% of a level, to giving me 30% of a level and was good for nearly 10 levels. Then from 53-60 I just aoe farmed shatterspear village, and was probably getting 10% of a level every 5 minutes or so. In terms of speed, these pulls are the way to go 100% because a quest requires you to pick it up, go and kill X amount of mobs or collect X amount of items from the mobs, then go drop it off and the time to and fro is essentially wasted time.
I just hit level 60 on my Paladin, and I honestly wish I found this guide way sooner, because this manner of pulling far outweighs the speed of even Retribution spec. Retribution could only handle maybe 3 mobs at or around your own level, but with this build, you're essentially aoe pulling like a mage.
i found that taking seal of command in the ret tree is well worth it... hitting 3 mobs with 1 swing is worth the talent point losing the point in imp ret aura.
buen video bien detallado gracias